Spicy FANFIC leads to cancellation of actor and BANNING of AO3 in China
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Spicy FANFIC leads to cancellation of actor and BANNING of AO3 in China
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I love to watch Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo, can you please cover Zhang Zhehan scandal 🙏
The fact that a FICTIONAL story caused someone IRL to be cancelled is insane and ridiculous. The people who forced this man to apologize and be punished for something he had nothing to do with should be ashamed of themselves
I agree. "Marginalized" people... they really should know better than to harass someone like that
@@agata3958 Wrong.
His fans are the one harassing them.
This video totally whitewashed alot of his inactions and his fans evil actions.
Some of his victims even committed suicide.
@@sleepyearth you literally said "his fans" twice and u still don't get it? toxic fans is everywhere you can't always blame the artists for their fans' actions.
One thing that I guess western people don’t get is that in Chinese entertainment industry, celebrities are held responsible for the actions of their fans because as public figures it’s their responsibility to lead their fans to the right direction and show them good examples as role models. Xiao Zhan didn’t do that and him and his team allowed the incident to escalate until it was too late.
@@NCT127xxman that was pretty stupid then. How can a sole human control thousands of people behaviour lmao.
The people that wanted him to apologize for a FANFIC are actually insane, I'm so sorry. That's ridiculous. I'm glad he's doing better.
@@Arklight18 Ppl need to relax, on God. Trying to ruin his life over FANFICS is crazy work.
@@ArtOfLiz Yes then why did his fans want to ruin the fansite because of him?
There is alot that Stephanie left out probably because of the lack of research.
His fans were so overboard with their antics that they not only went after ao3 but also lofter the BIGGEST fanfic site in china, any forum sites who dared to mention him, bilibili one of the largest video platform in china, QQ accounts, even game sites such as STEAM.
Not only that, they doxxed and harassed one of the author on the fansite, went to her school to personally harass her causing her to quit school.
Do you even know that several authors actually commit suicide over the ban?! That lofter and ao3 were their mental outlets and these crazy fans of his destroyed that outlets for HIM.
So his fans ruined their lives is ok to you but calling him out for being a spineless coward is crazy?!!
@@Arklight18 His fans did alot worst than what step described. They victimized thousands of people and some even committed suicide.
Guess what his fans did after they knew about this?
They mock the victims.
Sorry i couldn't sympathy with him anymore after that.
@@sleepyearth My friend, that still doesn't excuse trying to ruin HIS career over something he probably had no clue about?? His fans did that, not HIM. You thinking this should affect his job in the way it was over fanfiction he did not write is ludicrous.
@@ArtOfLiz you clearly don't know shit about how chinese showbiz and their cult-like fanculture work, dude just literally had to post "stop harassing people over fanfics y'all" on weibo and his fans would literally stop, he most likely knew what was going on because chinese celebrity workshops have dedicated teams that monitor their fans and give feedback to the celebrities because those people are their biggest income source, he may not be directly at fault but when you have that much of influence over a large group of people you have a moral duty to speak up when you see something wrong is going on especially when innocent people committed suicide because of his fans, would you not speak up about the current g3nocide on going in g4za just because you're not the one committing the g3nocide?
It's honestly so messed up. TO THIS DAY Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan still aren't allowed to interact. I miss their friendship so much.
same 😭💚❤️
they are allow honey, it’s just that they don’t want to bc The Untamed it’s over 😂
@lazymcguire5776 if you'd had any idea how Chinese showbiz works, you would belive it's true. Watch some clips from ex EXO members. Lay and Luhan met somewhere once during a show in China and wanted to greet each other. Their managers intervened real quick
@@blank_line exactly! The Chinese entertainment industry is very particular when it comes to what is being released to the public
@@lazymcguire5776 Not really. Just like the lead actors in addicted. They're banned from having public interactions
The one thing I would disagree with is saying he got "lucky" in ending up getting the role of Wei Wuxian.
He worked his butt off during the audition process, with no help from his toxic agency. He went to the auditions by his own means without support from his label while hearing from his own agency that he wasn't talented enough. He got no help whatsoever and had to rely on himself and fight tooth and nail to land the role.
I am so happy he is doing well, he is a very talented and sweet human being.
He has a backer. pls stop pretending he has NO HELP.
His fans keep trying to whitewash him ffs.
@@sleepyearthwhy are you so bitter. You are literally spreading hatred towards him under each and every comment .
Apoiador? Quem? @@sleepyearth
This is not entirely true. Xiao Zhan was recommended for the role by a friend of Yang Xia (the producer) because XZ's smile is like just what was described as Wei Wu Xian's smile.
After Yang Xia checked XZ's weibo account and saw his picture in a historical costume, she got convinced Xiao Zhan is perfect for WWX.
@@Nethmi2005mnp just report every comment that spineless pathetic waste of air makes, let's get them gone.
Later on, it was revealed that Xiao Zhan wasn’t as cancelled as we thought he was. Variety shows and brands would want to work with him, but he turned all of them down because he was so afraid of dragging them down with him. I think it says a lot about his character when he cared more about other people’s businesses over his own finances to the point where he basically went into hiding aside from filming a drama or two.
omg this and wasn't there also a thing where he said smth abt how people being extremely focused on the 227 scandal was taking off focus from info about the pandemic and COVID in general since it happened in 2020?? dunno for sure but I heard it somewhere
@@sparkie6870 Yes, he said in an interview that he was worried about taking up media space in the middle of the pandemic which was why he laid low. In the same breath he talked about how he felt bad for his friends and family that his scandal affected them. He really could have benefitted from a PR manager because he was never thinking of his own image.
He is my favourite baby.
Omg that's so sad, :(
he disappeared for a whole year lmao he got a good backer that's why he's able to come back
Its kinda funny and ironic how the fans who reported the fanfic to the government to protect his image actually almost ended his entire career
Agree
@@judykraska400 .....The fuck are you talking about?
@@judykraska400 What does race have to do with anything you giant weeb.
Those not fans they worst then antis
they say its cause it bad for his image yet people with actual minds would never see that as real, yet they were mostly probably but hurt he was depicted gay in media of that kind so homophobia in cover of GOOD DEEDS infact hurt homosexual groups, so they were the winners they got the whole platform destroyed.
Government did great job turning a fan war into a whole ass WAR💀
LIT NO ONE WAS TALKING ABT THIS
That's china's government.
i will never understand what unhinged irrational person could be lead to blame a celebrity for a fanfiction written about them without even their consent
and him blaming himself... how the hell could he have stayed up to date with the thousands of fanfics with his name on it cmon
I am sorry, but this was not an ordinary fanfic, it was a prostitution fanfic where their names and bodies were used as predator and victim. It was all over the media, and everyone parents of them, children, friends, associates could watch it. It was a big deal, and despite whoever reported it, as an outsider, l am happy AO3 was removed, so was the fanfic, and the blaming, and persecution should have gone to the female student, who for money made this unauthorised fanfic. All her life she should pay back the loss of income, and reputation Xiao Zhan had to suffer because of her. It was never heard much of her, while she should have been in the Negative Headlines. I assume, the real culprits behind the scenes protected this girl for profit reasons, because other actors profited from XZ cancelation. I noticed over the years,that many actors who rise to fame over night in Chinese entertainment are canceled through accusations for this or that like Chris Wu, Zhang Zhehan, ....and others.
@@judykraska400Sick! Writing a fanfiction of fictional characters is alright but why use real people?? Disgusting...
@@judykraska400 I don't think AO3 should have been banned in China, there is a lot of good stuff there. But it's one thing to write messed-up things about fictional characters and quite a different one to do the same with real-life people. Literally all this person had to do was replace the actors' names with MDZS characters, tag it as an AU and leave it at that, but they wanted the shock factor. None of this had to happen. I wish the writer could be sued for damages, but that's emotion speaking, realistically I at least hope they'd never do something like this again.
But in china fan’s mistake is a celebrity’s responsibility 😢
Anybody who thinks he had to apologize over a fanfic is bonkers to me! I’m glad he’s doing better now.
He didn’t even write it and it’s not based on his life whatsoever
The government should be the one to blame if anything. Extremely censorship is making people go ballistic.
What happened to him is why I think they need to do away with shipping/shipper fan behavior. It just gets beyond damaging because people do not know when to quit, smh 😔😔😔
@@Amy-nv5rythe website is meant to be just an archive. It will not get rid of any fic as long as it is a fic. However, mods will listen if they were told of this (The STWW incident). They should have informed the mods instead.
@@denieceedwards6310 might as well try to get rid of all fandom/fan culture altogether because people have done horrific things in the name of that as well including literally killing people/trying to in real life.
I felt so bad for him, what happened was absolutely crazy 😭
everyone in this drama sucks. literally so much of this could’ve been avoided if people had normal reactions.
Yea and he 10000% didn’t even deserve any of this to happen to him. Those people who did him to him are just as bad as the fans
I agree especially given he literally was getting cancelled as The Untamed was growing globally in 2020 so he hardly got to enjoy how well it did.
@@jayr7781he was not canceled, its bc of covid all stopped and he started shooting in 2020 ace troops he did govt documentary, he always active only low key
If that was me I would left no way I am going to stand for that
the netizens saying that 'idols should control their fans' is even more unhinged. they're putting idols on a pedestal as if idols could predict what their fans could do. no one couldve predicted the fanfic's contents or how famous it would get.
Ikr. Ppl who can say that clearly lack higher critical skills. Who should be considered fans? People who have spent at least $1000 to support him or just saving a picture of him is enough? And what if fans don't listen? Is he supposed to spank them then send them to naughty jail?
In China there's literally a blacklist of Hanfu stores that people would boycott, only because the owner is a fan of Xiao Zhan. Whenever I watch a review/unboxing, there would always be that one person commenting "Don't buy. The owner is a fan of Xiao Zhan." 🫠
Why am I not surprised by the crazy plot of fanfic.... that's how most fanfics work written by teenagers. Anybody taking this seriously and banning an actual person who has no idea about this is surprising and ridiculous.
Ikr people are ridiculous
I've read some pretty food fanfics on ao3, though, some even better than actual novels I read. I'd recommend the fanfic, "The mirror of Ecidyrue" by starbrigid.
fr, there are thousands of insane fanfics out there lmao. People need to relax 😂
@@incast_9871 Omg, I read that entire fic in like, a week and I agree with you it was amazing! Do you have any recs for more fics like that? Preferably bl ones? Straight ships are fine too 🗿
I agree like literally i have seen so much worse fanfics than this that i am surprised that people think this fanfic was crazy....
As a student learning mandarin, it’s so funny to hear Stephanie mispronounce the Chinese names and her invisible husband saying the correct pronunciation with a deep inner sigh 😂
My thoughts too 😂
Our beloved invisible Mistermangobutt
@@ashleyharris3807noo😂😂😂 JAKDSKD but he is indeed, i guess he wants his privacy
SAME! but as someone who is not native in English I like to hear the pronunciation of westerns. it is so fun how the same words are pronounced differently from one country to another.
Yeah. I think she should try a little harder. I mean, it is her man's culture and she seems very disinterested in learning it when she does that.
Will never forgive those who did that to Xiao Zhan & Wang Yibo.
‘The Untamed’ is by far the best show I have ever watched.
I’ve rewatched it over 5x and will continue to.
Just sad and mad that they had to go through that and it wasn’t in their control.
Same! The untamed is my comfort show
I rewatch it every year, sometimes twice a year. It’s literally THE BEST! I love the symbolism in the show as well, and how they were able to sneak meaningful things from the book into the show.
The Untamed is the best Chinese show I have ever watched and this is coming from a nonAsian person. It was graceful and so neat too not vulgar or inappropriate at all. I genuinely wish Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhang didn't go through that
the fact that their friendship was ruined because so many people made such a big deal abt it in a neg way :(
@@xin0206 many fans in China got stupid. The Untamed is a masterpiece and why many people in China cant have a good thing , because they ruin it for themselves .
It's so sad that their friendship become so restricted for things they didn't do. But the red sea is SOOOO touching. Personally I'm Xiao Zhan fan and really likes his personality, felt unjust for him when he gets cancelled but so glad that now he's back stronger than ever!
Oh really? So you didn't feel anything for some of the authors who committed suicide.
Great!
I knew his fans are psychos
i like their goofy interactions sm
What is actually the red sea can u elaborate a little please??
Apologizes but I also left out in case you wanted to know as well.
Red was the main color of Xiao's character that he played in The Untamed (Wei Wuxian) and many people sort of marked that color for him. So yeah it was touching ❤️
@@mahamsheikh77 umm actually in things like this... especially in eastern culture... for example BTS sea could be called purple sea... blackpink sea could be called pink sea... and more.. like that xiao zhan is associated red so showing red on their lights shows red sea which further shows that the red sea was only for xiao zhan meaning people show love and unite as red for zhan
The fact that they can’t even INTERACT in public after 5 years is honestly so sad, just bc of one crazy girl who went too far with a fanfic, they aren’t allowed to even look at eachother
Reminds me of a fanfic author I adored 20 years ago. She had her own site and her work was excellent: original fantasy yaoi. She was harassed by the outraged mom of a reader who was too young to see her fics. It spilled over into her real life and she stopped writing. I miss her creativity to this day
Damnnn women would read bl novels 20 years ago???… ohhhh I can envision myself in the future
@@yolanda6283i mean it would’ve only been 2003/04. i think yaoi peaked in the early 2000s tbh
@kirstene9131 Oh I had no clue I honestly thought it was like 10 years ago or something 😭 Thanks for clearing that up
@@yolanda6283 it really developed at the start of the 2000s. Fanfic writers build up fandoms, abbreviations, tagging, trigger warnings and rating systems. It was the Wild West out there 😆
@@yolanda6283 Nah, you see the rise of in in the latter half of the 20th century (with the addition of lots of bootlegging after post-war tensions). The demographics for it have grown over time though.
Poor guy, he wasn’t at fault for this, but still got blamed. I am glad he came back bigger than ever.
Yeah and even he was cancelled at that time his song made to love was broke all the records and won a Guinness World Record award
Its kinda ironic because the people who were so pissed about the fic because of how it would ruin his image are the ones who ruined his image themselves by being selfish and foolish. If they just let things be and decided to not engage with the fic outright..
@@yazzyari9746Well it would be hard to ignore, because the author did write CP, even when it was fictional. It still was explicit CP.
Ao3 is literally full of it and always was. And I'm sure it's not even only CP with them in it.
@@mintylynava it's actually extremely easy to ignore, you just click the back button and move on with your life.
As an avid ao3 user, it’s heartbreaking that the site was banned, honestly some of the fics I’ve read on there have been better than actual published books. However, I really don’t think xiao should’ve been blamed for the site being banned. Everyone already knows that the Chinese govt is a totalitarian regime. It’s the govt that decided to ban it, it’s the govt that should receive the backlash.
Not just being cancelled but it also ruined his relationship with wang yibo and thats really sad.
Just their public relationship. If you follow some twitter accounts, there was an instance of WYB sharing his rehearsal time with him (to keep XZs presence at the event secret)
What he went through was awful and uncalled for. He is his own person not an item, I just feel so bad for a man who worked so hard in his career to get treated the way he did. As a member of the LGBTQ+, I really disagree with the marginalized groups being upset. I think their anger was misdirected and all 3 parties involved were way to consumed and upset for legit nothing.
Exactly. The marginalized groups should've been angry at the people who took away their platforms and not direct their anger at an innocent bystander. And the fans should've asked the platforms to take down the fan fic, not the government, like WTF. You want that one fan fic to go away, not the whole platform, because that fan fic is not the only story on that platform. Just WTF is wrong with those fans? Gosh I feel so bad for him.
@@JadeCaro exactly!!! Just extreme and entitled. Absolutely insane to me.
Personally if someone used my name to harras people online and report platforms that are marginalized groups source of communication I would be horrified.
@@irunuki297 They do not have any right to do that to the author. Period.
@@samehere310 Now his fandom will be even more arrogant because there's no repercussions to their actions. They will definitely do it again and again to other people.
as a kpop enjoyer and longtime ao3 dweller, the fic steph was describing sounds so tame as compared to half the shit some of us would read as a silly little bedtime story 😭
True 😭
yeah, thats not something you want to brag about bud.
@@gob6793i mean... at the end of the day, fiction is fiction. just silly little ideas that are very much not real. there are very questionable books out there with very disturbing plot lines as well that people still enjoy reading, so who are we to yuck people's yum?
I was thinking the same thing coz there's some...WILD shit out there😅😂 but it's also clear that it's not meant to be taken seriously
@@carbsrcha if you enjoy reading books or fanfics about minor x adult relationships, you’re weird. and should probably be in jail.
The problem is that he wasn't even anyhow related to the fanfic other than people's imagination of him and name. Yet he had to go through all the things he never NEVER deserved. Both xiao zhan and yibo suffered from literal NOTHING and that's saddening and heart breaking
Каким образом пострадал Ибо? Его карьера наоборот расцвела именно в 2020 году и сейчас на взлёте.
@news: How were they not related to the fanfic. Their names and bodies were used for a prostitution fanfic where XZ was the predator and Yibo the minor. Billions of people including family, friends, business partners could watch this disgusting clip, as it was spread all over the mainstream media. There is a red line using real famous people in sexualised fan rape. AO3 missed out to draw this line, and take this fanfic out, before it could damage, and protect the actors.
Exactly
Am I getting this right: Because Chinese netizens couldn't criticize the Chinese government itself for taking down the platform and the anti-gay laws they just targeted the person who happened to be the subject of the fanfic?
Yes they were definitely barking up the wrong tree. I understand it’s a lot easier said than done to stand up to an oppressive government, but even still this actor had nothing to do with any of this so trying to ruin his life was idiotic and cruel
Well what do you expect them to do? Their favorite site got banned because of his fans they just want it back
Actually yes, a lot of the 227 supporters actually had nothing to do with the fic, or Xiao Zhan, they just were against censorship and anti-lgbt rhetoric.
Why can't people just get a life. I'm sorry, but this is the most dumbest thing I have heard for someone to be canceled. Is anyone happy now? This man did nothing wrong at all
This crap only happens in China and S.Korea .
Ikr it's just a fanfiction like just watch it then forget it it's not even that big of an issue
Fortunately, he's doing wonderful now. The last 2 series I saw him in are really good.
@Duchesscarml that's good he deserves all the good coming his way and he very talented can't wait to see more from him
@@tyler23burt Yeah, I think he's #1 right now in China -- or he was some months ago. 😅
Craziest thing to ever happen to a fandom tbh, it was so dumb...
Ikr! Fandom rule #1: Do NOT get the authorities involved, it's not that serious bro
@@rashi4553 real rule #1: know the difference between FANFICS and NONFICTION
It was such a shitshow
@@rashi4553it's the obsessive fans who report it
@@rashi4553RIGHT??? Those idiots literally couldn't distinguish fanfic from reality to the point the person WHO DIDN'T EVEN WROTE ABOUT IT had to apologize and take blame?💀 Crazy
I feel so sorry for him. Imagine doing nothing wrong at all and somehow being guilty. Or being widespread hated over some random girl's fanfic. I'm happy that his life is back on track now, but emotional toll that it took is irreversible, even if he smiles and takes everything gracefully.
True, that’s all so sick and wrong…
As a fan of the untamed. I had followed the entire incident back in 2020. She definitely did her research about the entire thing pretty well. (And was great at explaining the nuances of the entire incident).
Not really.
She left out ALOT of things his fans did.
All the horrible terrible immoral things
And the conspiracy theories.
“I imagine it’s like a wattpad…”
Stephanie and her east asian pop culture deep dives has dipped into so many of my fandoms I’m genuinely surprised she doesn’t know what ao3 is 😂
Same lol
What is AO3? An app similar to wattpad or something?
@@vonn2221a nonprofit website
@@vonn2221 yeah its a website (archive of our own), basically an archive for fanfics similar to wattpad
@vonn2221 it's a website but yeah similar to wattpad
if i was in his shoes i would feel so traumatized by the fanfic itself not even mentioning the whole scandal😭. that man is strong. finding out that people started canceling you for the fanfic that made you look like THIS… is a lot. i would be crying 24/7 and be angry cause THIS IS SO NOT HIS FAULT!
Well I am like 100% that Xiao Zhan will never ,ever do a BL drama again .
It was a character, not the actor himself.
Am thankful he is still alive after this...
only his haters cancelled him..
not his HUGE FANDOM.
he said himself , ALOT of Brands still contacted him and wanted to work with him ..
BUT it was him Who REFUSED because he dont want to work with brands while he's in this scandal. he dont want to drag Brands with him..
and when he came back with his
"SPOTLIGHT"(we are made to love)
there you can SEE HOW PEOPLE are waiting for his comeback ..
"SPOTLIGHT"
got GUINNESS WORLD of RECORD ,in just its first day released.
SPOTLOGHT got 24.37 MILLION digital sales in just 24hrs.
The govt literally told him to take responsibility because he stayed quiet throughout.
His fans did alot more than this to thousands of innocent victims. Some even committed suicide.
He is currently still earning millions while his victims still have no apologies from his fans.
NOT HIS FAULT my arse.
i think she got yibo’s history mixed up…
Wang Yibo was a street dancer, he did participate in a legit competition as she said and battled against a lot of adult dancers when he was really young. He then joined Yuehua, where he was put into a kpop group called UNIQ. After that, he got a job as a presenter in a show called Day Day Up, all whilst appearing in dramas like Gank Your Heart. Almost at the same time he also was a dance mentor in Produce Camp. He was already famous back then.
And then, The Untamed caught the world’s attention.
He got bigger and bigger.
He got great drama, was in great movies, he participated in a motorcycle racing competition, he also was a dance captain in Street Dance Of China for three seasons straight and won 2 of them. He’s super super talented
Watching "the untamed" is such a magical experience. I can't even begin to explain. Before watching the show I could have never imagined for it to become so special to me. Listening to the OST makes me feel it all over again. I feel so sad for the actors. :(
Had no idea who he was but as an avid fanfic lover since I was in single digits, I have to say that I have never felt so bad for a celebrity. It was a FANFICTION. FICTION. That is crazy.
I literally cried when I saw the sea of red scene because no one deserves to lose their livelihood over a fanfic like that.
same! i teared up at the red sea and im not even a fan of him! that's insane TAT
what is the red sea?@@ARMYALEX1869
No pity after i learnt that he is a racist and a misogynist calling women "inflated sex dolls"
@@ARMYALEX1869 Don't because some of his victims committed suicide and nobody pitied them. In fact his fans mocked the victims.
@@sleepyearth first of all, what victims? Second of all, what does his fans have to do with how i view him as a person?
This poor guy. He seems so sincere and genuine. He really does care for others. This man is a victim and deserved so much better.
@@king_yiboyou’re ridiculous. Even if he knew what his fans were doing, do you think he would’ve been able to stop them? Fans that obsessive can’t be stop. It wasn’t his fault.
@@king_yibodon't dehumanize yibo's name by making nasty comments about xiao zhan
now XZ is Gucci global ambassador ❤
He is a racist and misogynistic calling women "inflated sex toy"
He is not a victim. His victims are the true victims.
@@pml4443 The chinese govt literally told him to take responsibility.
Xiao Zhan had many works in 2023. Please continue to support him. He is a very talented actor. And appears to be a genuinely kind and private person. ❤
It’s was such a sad situation. He was not at fault at all and people just tried to destroy him. Poor guy, I’m so glad he was able to overcome this time on his life.
227 intended to drive him to suicide.I was shocked to see their posts swamping Twitter in early March 2020 - RIP.. She was a good girl but died from COVID.
Luckily he was strong enough to weather the unprecedented orchestrated cyber-bullying campaign and made a triumphant return.
@@mykrt8541 What????
Is he doing well now?
@@simmi8464yes, he's Gucci Global Ambassador now ♡
@@simmi8464of course better than ever ! ❤All brands are looking to work with him.
the world is messed up,they took everything away from him for a FANFIC????
And he got it back 10 folds, thank god. He is now and has been for the last 3 years China's #1 without question!
Yeah... I'm a fan of both of them and they were never allowed to participate in the same event JUST BECAUSE OF 227...
@@eunice9937uh they were on weibo night in 2021 and 2023 😂 what r u talking about?
When I watched the Untamed I absolutely did not know it was a BL. When I was watching it, I was crying over how beautiful their friendship/brotherhood was lol. But even now knowing it was BL, I felt like a friendship was also very well written. But seriously, this drama's plot and story is absolutely amazing. It is very touching, sad (very), and really makes you think about life, morals, just everything.
i think it's pretty obvious that it's a bl. thinking their relationship anything other than romantic is kinda crazy to me. bros do not stare at each other longingly while sentimental music is playing in the bg
I think what really catapulted the drama was the fact that the dynamic depicted on screen could be interpreted both ways, romantically and platonically. This way both the fans of the original material and the general public were satisfied. The chemistry of the leads and the respect to the source material, despite the censorship, made it possible to reach a wide audience while simultaneously appeasing the OG fandom.
@@nopenopexxnah. It was done like that just because of chinese censorship. It's known that directors, producers and actors read the book so they knew what they were filming 😂
I've never seen it as simple brotherhood or friendship, but that's probably because I have also read the novel so I already knew what it was about 😅 Anyway, it was a good drama and the actors portrayed the emotions so well
@@nopenopexx I couldn't have said it better, this is a really good explanation!
Can we talk about how the people went after this celeberty for running their communities but not the govt for making them go into hidding and only having online forums for community. Where is this much effort for that ? Nope gotta ruin an innocent persons life
He's literally a victim as well wth
I'm gonna be honest, when Stephanie started talking about the red sea and showed the clip I broke down into tears. Honestly I don't understand how he didn't have a breakdown at that ponit loll. I can't imagine how scared and nervous he must have been.
It's crazy what he's gone through and nobody deserves this. I'm glad he's back on track now and I hope that nothing like this will happen to anyone again.
He's a professional. I used to think it was as if celebs were a bit cold and brainwashed to be that in control but then seeing how everything they do in public can be twisted and misconstrued, I do feel sorry they can't let loose sometimes.
I also did 😢❤
@@nomad82912 sure. His victims who committed suicide must be less worrying for you since an idol is more important in real life.
@@sleepyearthhis victims for what bro do you even know what a victim means i swear this person is going around hating on xz everywhere go touch some grass
The MDZS/Untamed fandoms are wild on AO3, not only did this happen, but another fanfic changed the rules of ao3 entirely because they had so many tags that you couldnt go on ao3 without seeing it unless you muted the author and when you saw it, you had to scroll for minutes to get past it.
I heard about that! Never found it though even though I searched the author's name.
what rules? like putting so many tags?
@@insert_smiley I heard they had to put a limit on the number of tags. Not sure what the limit is.
@@maries6368 oh! that seems reasonable
Just kind of curious If the fanfic was between the Characters of MDZS Characters WWX and LWJ or the Human characters?
The fans from back then, experiencing this while it was happening (me included)...call this 227 incident ''a taboo incident'' for a reason. We don't want to bring it back, it was traumatising both for the fans and for him.
People have been writing fan fic for idk forever.
Why would anyone cancel anyone over it.
It almost sounds so bitter and for what???
What's Crazy is the striking parallel of what happened to his character in The Untamed ( Wei Wuxian) storyline , he too went through a very similar experience. Basically, the whole story of the untamed was about how Wei Wuxian was ostersized over reasons of which he had no control and his only support was Wang Yibo (Lan Wangii). Xiao Zhans real life imitated the character he potrayed.
I just realized that you're right. Wahhhh, XZ ❤❤❤. At least he got happy ending. Still, the loss are not small. 😭. I just like his character as WW. He is breathtakingly beautiful. His heart and his soul.
Ikr 😢
it’s like a curse, because wwx going to the top then falling down, i hope XZ comeback stronger ❤❤❤❤❤ he is my favorite human 😭❤️❤️❤️❤️
Truee
Well actually WWX was defending the Wens because they were mistreated after the war. That's why he ended up being targeted. He was also too powerful at the end and they feared him (that part could be a parallel to XZs quickly increasing fame).
Stephanie, you GOTTA watch it. "The Untamed" was promoted as 'bromance' because, as you said, BL is a no-no in China, but it genuinely couldn't be more obvious that they are in love.
yes!! literally changed my life
The original source material was a BL story. It was gonna happen until China put a ban on all material put on celluloid.
Truly. The scene on the staircase is one of the most romantic things I have ever seen
@@wwx-lwj-ai-ni THE STAIRCASE SCENE!!!! i went back to watch that at least a hundred times. i’ve consumed copious amounts of romance media but nothing was on that level. so beautiful.
THE UNTAMED WAS SO GOOD id be so happy if she watched it
I ran a fansite for Xiao Zhan during this time (still do now) and it was madness, the amount of people trying to hack into my account on the daily, trying to get me and fellow fansite admins cancelled or suspended, I can only imagine how difficult his time would have been for Xiao Zhan himself. I was so happy but also nervous for his first appearance back after 227 and I cried at seeing the red sea. I'm so, so proud of how he stayed so strong and how the support for him only became greater as time went on. His fanbase is a lot bigger now, he did so well. Proud of you, Xiao Zhan - you're my brightest star. ❤
remember how you guys tried to ban so many online communities but playing victim here.
I hope his karma will come
@@sleepyearth I never tried to ban anyone... huh...?
@@sleepyearth Why? XZ did nothing wrong. He was the victim here.
@@sleepyearth you're almost in every comment saying negative things to xz. Lol.
This really is just a sucky situtation. Ao3 is a nonprofit organisation and the entire point is to have a totally unregulated platform. The entire point is for people to avoid whatever they want and enjoy whatever they want, hence it's immensley detailed tagging system. Obviously we shouldn't be normalising illegal minor and adult relationships but banning a nonprofit creative outlet was not the way to go. Then again cancelling an actor over what his fans did is yet again really not okay and shouldn't have been done. I hope everybody in this event is doing well now.
And I think the government should have handled it in a better way.
@@Nethmi2005mnpgovernment had campaign to regulate toxic comments and smear campaigns against rival idols on fan sites, but Western media used this as ammunition as 'China clamping down on free speech'.
I am a fan of fanfiction but I draw the line at using REAL people to fullfill one's fantasies. It is gross and it does indeed affect someone who can't do anything about it.
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Me too, I've written some fanfics myself and I would never and will never support anyone who uses someone's REAL and LEGAL name in a fanfic
Babes that's all good, but anything goes on ao3. It's unhinged. However, the govt didn't have to get involved and ruin someone career over it💀💀
Me too, as long as it's fictional, you can go all over crazy and I wouldn't think much, just probably won't read it myself but real life people? No, not even if it's just comedy one shot.
Same. I feel uncomfortable using real people because they're very much real and has their own life unlike characters in fiction. I still remember I once stumbled upon BTS fanfic...
I watched untamed after and really liked the story. I did some research and was scratching my head on why Xiao had to pay for something his toxic fans did. I liked something he said afterwards. It went along the lines of how he isn’t the parents of his fans, and his fans have their own free will and some won’t listen to him at all. Literally the only thing that he could have done to maybe help is to talk about it earlier than he did, i don’t even know if it would have changed anything. But it’s literally not a crime he committed, but what his fans did that he in no way encouraged. I also feel so bad for the ao3 users, but also I don’t for a lot of them since they ended up turning their rage towards someone innocent. It’s like someone attacked them, and they stab the perpetrators innocent friend. They were also victims, but they also turned around and became the perpetrator.
Yeah like he didn't even breathe, why is his "apology" criticised? He doesn't owe anyone shit. Super illogical.
I really feel bad for the actor who didn't even know what was happening behind his back
And then suddenly banned and apologies for the stupid things that he didn't even do 😔
I thank that now he's fine 😊
I know this will never happen, but people must stop making celebrities responsible for their fans especially in times of social media. Even if they tried, its just not possible, especially in a country with literally over a billion citizens. You will always offend at least one group no matter what you do. I just feel so sad for Xiao Zhan and of course the community who lost their save space. But to ruin a man‘s life who had nothing to do with it is just wrong.
As an ao3 writer I think this is becoming my new fear 😨
Can you imagine? 😨 I ain't even written anything and I was like -thank goodness I am not a writer 👀
Yeah I’m definitely sticking to just fictional characters….
I just started listening to the vid, but the AO3 title and the Untamed being obviously the topic def drew me 😂. Idk what happened, but I hope it's not real ppl shipping because it generally makes them so uncomfortable 😖
@@JellyTwilitegood as you always should
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I feel so bad for him, the people who were upset the websites got taken down directed their anger at him who did nothing wrong, when he had worked so hard to be where he was, I'm so glad he wasn't actually cancelled
Actually I think that their respectives agencies should have seen or heard at least about this particular fanfic using the real names of the actors and stopped it in its roots by immediately sending the fanfic author on court! Nothing of the sort would have happened further...
Everyone wants to earn money from the actors but they have to take good care if them. Shame on them! The fans are another story!
I think it was the only thing these hurt people could think of to inflict even remotely the same amount of hurt that had been inflicted on them by these thoughtless fans. It's not even remotely right - it's one thing to be critical of how a celebrity "handles" their fans, and another to dogpile someone to the extent these people did. But it did come from a real place of hurt and need for retribution - and they knew the only thing these fans would care about is their idol. It's shitty all around and honestly I wish people would stop and think about their actions online more - this did not need to escalate. Like come on, reporting a fic to the government? Anyone who thinks that's gonna end well is delusional.
Their agencies definitely saw and knew it but he/ them decided to not do anything, I am sure they were thinking about promoting themselves and didn't expect this.
I think it’s ironic, how the people that wanted to take down these online platforms for the avoidment of the possibility of getting Xiao’s image tarnished, were the reason for this situation to get so messed up and ultimately getting him cancelled.
As a fanfic writer, that is the major reason why i am never willing to write fanfictions on idols and celebrities. It is completely unhinged and dumbest thing that could ever happen to an idol to get cancelled. I myself is a big fan of untamed and him but this- China sometimes scares me 😂
A couple things I want to clarify about this story because the timeline is very important:
- Produce 101 was before/during the filming of the Untamed, Street Dance of China wasn't until 2020 when Yibo was very famous
- The "jie" thing wasn't a nickname XZ called him on set, it was a something Yibo later revealed on a reality show was almost his name before "Yibo" was picked instead
- XZ's really big gucci/tods/etc endorsements came along more recently, long after 227
- The "its been a year" thing on livestream is hotly contested even among shippers, but I just wanted to clarify it was while they were changing rooms to get to a fan greeting event and bumped into someone XZ previously knew. The question could easily have also applied to it being a year between filming and promoting the drama. It's open to interpretation. If you watch the full clip it's much clearer that it was a surprise thing and they didn't realize the camera was still rolling after they got up from the table to walk. (That whole livestream was really poorly organized. You can't watch it on youtube and even the camerawork is shaky af)
I agree the "are you already together for a year" is open for interpretation.
It could be interpreted as them being friends for a year.
Or that its been a year after the filming of The Untamed.
However, the reason why it was interpreted by shippers as them being together as couple was because of Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo's reaction after they realized they were being recorded. And the later remark of Yibo saying "smash the jar", meaning since the secret has already been spilled, why not reveal it all out.
trueeee what she saying is not accurate
Better example for ‘shipping’ purposes is that ‘old cow eats young grass’ comment he made to Xiao Zhan. At least that one isn’t debatable, maybe COULD argue he’s joking but otherwise…
They could be dating and that's nothing wrong either..or they are not which is also fine
I’m glad our fan base is strong so we’re able to stop misinformation.
Being marginalized doesn't give u the right to destroy an innocent person's life. If anything, the government is the one at fault and i feel so bad for him. People acted in a very unhinged way
both sides were equally unhinged tbh
Yet his toxic fandom destroyed innocent marginalized's outlet with NO REPERCUSSIONS.
@@b0nthree.r867 They only did it because his cultists do that to them. It's called revenge.
@@sleepyearthgo touch some grass and use your brain cells (if you have any) to THINK because anyone with a sane mind can see that y’all just picked an easy target to bully and abuse, instead of pointing your fingers at the government that decided to ban a website over a fucking fanfic. Much easier to target a celebrity over authorities that can and will ban anything or anyone of you according to their liking right?
@@sleepyearth Yeah, then they should've targeted the fandom. His fandom was huge back then and although it might seem like a lot of fans were involved in reporting AO3, it was a small amount when compared to the entirety of his fanbase. You need to be able to sperate the fan's actions from the idol. Xiao Zhan himself did nothing. He didn't write the fanfic, he didn't promote it, he didn't encourage his fans to do anything in this incident. Yet, it was him that faced the consequences. HIS name was the one associated with destroying a marginalized group, HE was the one that lost millions of dollars, HE was the one publicly being dragged.
I had no idea of it. I was an untamed and Grandmaster of demonic cultivation fan and I loved the actors and yeah, it was just that. I had no idea something like this happened. Im just glad that his life is back on track.
I cried when the red sea happened. Poor boy almost broke down on stage. You could aee in his eyes rhat it was healing to him
I cannot explain how much I adore Xiao Zhan. The Untamed was my first Chinese drama and I ended up watching it as an accident cause I was looking for something else and Xiao Zhan acting just for some reason warmed my soul. Wang Yibo, Yu Bin and Meng Ziyi are really amazing too, but Xiao Zhan just has an energy about him that makes me smile whenever I see him in action. I’ve never been invested in an actor until Xiao Zhan. I hope he comes back better than ever and is surrounded by people who support him wholeheartedly.
Dont worry i am proud to say that XZ is now doing better than ever
Watch Word of Honor. You would love that too.
Exactly!! He is an amazing person overall. Very respectful, polite, gentle, smart, talented, friendly, etc. his parents raised him so well.
@@ceemartin5624The fact that Zhe Han from Word of Honour also got himself into a scandal that was not his fault. The only difference is that he never recovered from it. I miss seeing him in dramas and media
@@kookies2160 I know! How crazy is that? I don't think he deserved his acting career to end because of some dumb photos.
What’s sad is that the author was probably either a child or a teenager who consumed too much media. Bl community can become absolutely crazy and unhinged. The fetishization of everything within the community gets sooo bad where illegal and moral things can become normal. Fanfic is amazing and can be disgusting at the same time with young authors writing about literal domestic abuse. It’s so sad and silly everything was blown out of proportion, for every single person and community involved.
The author was not a child, as the fanfic was professionally done, and the producer was a female student, l know even her name, as in secret there were a few interviews with her, and she felt sorry having made so much trouble for the actors. She also admitted, she needed pocket money, so the idea was to use the two most famous actors at the time to get more views for a prostitution fanfic using the real persons XZ and WYO. As a student, l assume she has a higher education, and l cannot forgive the damage she caused for Xiao Zhan, as WYO was fine, his Hunan TV, and himself never reacted. The damage was done to Xiao Zhan, who was the predator in the fanfic, and WYO the under aged victim. You know Yibo was very young, when he filmed THE UNTAMED. It was for both of them the first series, and Xiao Zhan the much elder. Anyway, later it turned out there was much more behind the AO3 case, as many entertainment moguls, and critics wanted to suppress Xiao Zhan, tried hard to criticise him in any way as bad actor, bad singer, ....but at the end thanks to his own efforts, talent, calm resilience, and the Red Sea of real fans, nothing could harm him forever. He was internationally famous, went this year to Milano, Paris, met all the famous designers, attended the new season Designer shows, came home, produced new works, including stage works. The support from us, the audiences is unwavering, as he is a true artists in general, and was creative in many ways in secret during his ordeal. Now, he is respected, loved, and consistent in creating new works.
This
It's not the BL community, insane batshit stuff happens in every fandom. Even in stuff for kids. Ever heard of h*ntai? It's got nothing to do specifically with BL.
@@judykraska400 ao3 doesn’t bring profit
I agree! some BL/yaoi fics have literal r@pe/abuse scenarios (especially with underage/minors) and they write it as if it's normal??? It's disgusting how some of these fics normalized r@pe. Even MXTX's MDZS had these bizarre issues. It's really sad because I loved everything about MDZS until I read those x-rated scenes and I was so disappointed with MXTX. But people will defend it because BL fics themselves made r@pe/underage assault seem normal.
Oh well, I still love the Untamed and the rest of MDZS is a good story. It's really sad that real life people got affected by this issue which is normalization of illegal scenarios in BL.
...wtf?! Im so angry!! How could they bully and harassed him when he'd done nothing??😡😡😡😡😡😡🥺🥺🥺😢😢😢😢😢😢
Xiao Zhan never should have had to deal with that. And I understand he didn’t want to draw people in by talking about it. Totally understandable.
My parents (the same ones that have Li Ziqi videos playing in the background to support her) dubbed him “Unlucky Child” in Chinese after what happened. I only knew of him because of my parents. My immediate family was basically all hoping for him to recover and then when we realized he’ll be Ooki, it was a huge relief.
I feel awful that this happened to him, he literally did nothing! If people want to be mad, be mad at their government.
That's what I thinking while watching , they should mad to government they cancel the site, not the actor but they can't protest against government that's why they target actor.
Exactly
@@addite7115should’ve targeted the fan if anything. At least then one party is guilty but still it’s uncalled for. There’s a thing called coping. So do it.
xz knew all along what was happening, he's innocent my ass
he's a whole ass manipulator honey
I think they should've target the author of the fanfic instead for the most part, their unhinged delusions are the true reason why this fiasco existed in the first place
As a LGBTQ community member I'm disappointed in my peers for fighting so hard to attack a celebrity for his fans behavior when neither one is the real issues for our suppression by many governments. The issues is that China is refusing to treat us with equal rights and dignity and that's the reason why there was a need for a internet d rate media hang out to begin with 😢 that effort could have been used to speak against the governments behavior. You felt helplessness against the government and took out your anger on a celebrity who didn't do anything at all and stated that he should be accountable for other people's behavior. Sad i totally understand the feelings.
I’m glad to see a comment such as this here. This is the REAL issue.
What makes me even more sad about this whole thing is XZ has been a fairly vocal supporter for the LGBTQ community considering the constraints placed on him. This whole thing just feels so gross and targeted by the government to me.
yeah it's like people forgot who the real "enemy" is
@ecemonel405 yeah displaced anger
he really had to apologize for something he had ZERO part in wth like imagine sitting at home doing nothing just for your career to go up in flames over a FANFIC 😭 so glad he's doing better than ever now
I feel so bad for XZ, like it was his fault someone used him to portray a p*do prostitut*. Like no one though about how he must felt knowing there was a fanfic that described him like that.
right. being hated for something he didn't do is one thing, but the way he had such a creepy image in the fanfic ??? which caused the readers to imagine HIM doing, whatever the fanfic says. if im being put in his place, cant imagine the shock i would have felt when i woke up slowly finding out im hated, finding out it was because a platform is banned, finding out it was because of a fanfic, and finding out i was playing a dirty character in that fanfic
@@chopio7972exactly. That BL fic just sounds so disgusting; that author writing this fic fetisized literal abuse and then used a real life person doing that abuse 🤢
The Untamed is literally one of my absolute most favorite BL series an has introduced me to so much of the beautiful Chinese culture as well as these amazing actors that I love dearly. That fanfic was taken way out of control for no reason and none of the real people should have gotten the consequences for that. Extremely happy that his career is doing well again and can only wish the best for all of them. 💗
The one that made me cry was love between fairy and devil omg the devil was so hot
The Untamed Made me love their relationship wether its BL or BROmance the chemistry is just on fire.
These were my favourite actors from my favourite drama, THIS ISSUE WAS VERY VERY VERY PAINFUL. Now we can't even have them in the same room/show with each other 😢
😮The person who should have been cancelled is the Writer of the Fan fic not Xiao, how ridiculous !
another thing that i felt wasn't addressed here was how much of it was people mindlessly hating xiao zhan and it wasn't the marginalized groups. people posted the most heinous comments on him and wishing the most vile things on him, harassing anyone who like him on every platform including international social media (i myself was harassed), blaming him for death of his grandparent, harassing anyone who tried to speak up for him. it was overall a nasty cyber bullying campaign against him and ngl reminds me a lot about the attack against tablo.
He wasn't the one in charge of firewall, + it was a few thousand of a very big fandom with millions of people who were actually involved in the reporting so to me it was a unfortunate incident and something i wish i never witness again. back in june or july 2020 when he finally hired a lawyer for lawsuits people fans and non fans gathered evidence for the cases when i tell you i had to give up after reading 2 sentences because of how vile people were to him. So yeah it wasn't marginalized groups yeah they were involved but it was antis, paid antis and very nasty spirited people who took advantage of the situation to be vile.
Yes, one of the loudest voices hating on him was actually homophobic people who thought he was "effeminate" and hated him for that and for becoming so popular from a BL show, you know, the people who marginalized marginalized groups? The actual marginalized people ended up being marginalized in this whole incident too
Another toxic part of fandom that just ruins it for so many people :(( if everyone could just focus on what they love instead of making their hurt feelings everyones problem fandom spaces would be so much more fulfilling and happier healthier place
As a Chinese this situation pisses me so off. I really like Xiao Zhan and I don’t think he deserves any of this hate! How can people ever be mad at him when he’s literally the victim of a creepy fan fiction?!
Victim of a creepy fanfiction? It's a fanfiction! There is no wrong with actor and the author either.
The fans are stupid! And the government intolerant.
@@enlilly2405'It's literally a fanfic'. Some of you need to know that some fans don't know the difference between fanfic and reality. Fans read fanfic to feed their delusional image of idols so it's gonna partially affect the image they have of the idols.
@@enlilly2405You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s creepy when it involves intercourse with underaged people and hints of incest. You can talk smack about the fans and the government but I’m pretty sure these kinds of themes are taboo in most parts of the world.
it's literally FICTION, if anything he's a victim of his toxic ass fans who ruined his career because they can't let fanfictions exist lmao
@@enlilly2405fanfic is a place to express yourself and what not, but its fucking weird when its done about real people ESPECIALLY when u explore unorthodox ideas (incest, pedophilia, ect.) theyre real breathing ppl with emotions and feelings, not fictional characters u can project on and have no harm done
I always wish Xiao zhan the best, as a Wang Yibo fan, it was so relieving to see him have a big brother/friend who he was so close with considering how reserved he usually is, but then everything was taken away from him, he can't even interact with Xiao publicly. Hope everything becomes normal.
i dont even know him but when stephanie started showing & talking abt the red ocean, I STARTED BAWLING!!
The fact after this Xiao Zhan become even more famous and influential globally and even in China then he was before tbh he deserves success he gets he is very hard working and genuine artists no stupid drama. What fan does he can't control literally every artists have t0xic fans, no one deserves global b0ycott or threats he got for something he can't control or do anything about. I am happy he is doing good even better then before
I literally fell into the CQL/MDZS rabbit hole a week after 227 and oh boy to join the fandom during that time was absolutely insane.😭 I love XZ & YB, and to find about them as actors and this incident was so heartbreaking considering XZ was completely unaware and innocent. I'm so glad to see his immense success now.
I love Zhan and Yibo! I got into the Untamed when Zhan was just coming out of his hiatus, and I felt so bad learning about what went down. And now they can't even be seen near each other. I'll never know them personally but they are some of the most genuine people, who happened to be celebrities, I've ever seen.
Zhan previously mentioned about not wanting to take some media attention away from the pandemic..but in the middle of his inactivity, he's been helping A LOT with covid relief efforts on the down-low, his management sending out donations, inspiring fans who learned about it to do the same and spread the word. My respect for him just grew even more, and I'm so glad he's doing so much better. As for Yibo, he'll always be the realest and I love him for it. These two deserve all the love and success they are getting.
wait so they dont have a relationship anymore? like not even a friendly one?
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They’ve not been seen together in years. They may still be friendly over text but it’s possible that for the sake of their careers they stopped talking to each other after the scandal.
@@lvillarreal8865yep, that’s more normal in c-ent that u think
@@lvillarreal8865 they may keep in contact in their private life, we don't know it, but they can't be seen interacting in public to not bring attention to the whole thing again. it often happens in China, especially with people who worked on projects related to queer themes - you'll never see them working together again or appearing in public together (it happened with actors of Addicted and Guardian, both based on BL novels. also actors of Word of Honor but one of them was involved in another political scandal after). i think even without the 227 scandal, we wouldn't have seen them in public together much, but with the scandal, it's impossible. which is crazy because the Untamed is literally the project that made them blow up
He has gone through a lot of hardships and suffered a lot. This makes me very, very sad. He does not deserve this at all. He is truly a strong person for enduring all of this. If he had been another person, his psychology might have been greatly destroyed. I am happy that there are many people who support and love him now, and I have become one of them as well. I hope that he has overcome all the difficulties and will see more and more in the future and that his future will be easy and full of happiness for him. I wish him all the best. He deserves the best and only the best.
As an AO3 fanfic writer, I am sooooooo glad I stopped writing fics of my fav youtubers like 3 years ago and started feeling weird about imagining real people in certain situations cz IF ANYONE I LOVED GOT INTO TROUBLE CZ OF SOMETHING I WROTE, I WOULD NEVER FORGIVE MYSELF
Es un fanfic 💀
@flaviacardenasminaya2187 it's gross tho. lol imagine reading someone's thoughts about you having sx with them them.
@@skankinthecomments yo no digo que no sea desagradable, los temas que se tocaban en el fic eran sumamente delicados y algunos inmorales, simplemente digo que era un producto de ficción y que las que lo convirtieron en un verdadero problema fueron otras personas, no fue no culpa de ao3 ni culpa de la escritora de este fic que haya pasado el 227.
@@flaviacardenasminaya2187ohhh okay yeah no that's bad duh.
@@flaviacardenasminaya2187 nah I agree. The people who got AO3 banned are in the wrong here. There are so many bad fanfics out there that talk about sensitive topics very badly but they reacted on this one just because it's a real person.
The writer is probably very young and now they are traumatized and feeling guilty about hurting their fav star. AO3 should've never been banned.
I find it so sad how some people will literally try to destroy a person career just off of what their fans do, but these idols or celebrities can’t control everything that their fans do those are individual people with their own thoughts and actions and it shouldn’t reflect poorly on the celebrity if they didn’t have anything to do with how their fans were acting. Like for me personally i just wouldn’t be able to live with myself knowing I had taken part in diminishing someone else’s career that they worked so hard for and is their livelihood.
It’s so sad that such a thing could happen to someone who had absolutely nothing to do with it… he and the people who got their communities taken away are the victims
Not just sad, it's terrifying if you ask me 😢
Its so crazy the fact that people think idols are responsible for their fans, no they’re not bc one person can’t control others people have their own minds and opinions, also the fact that Xiao Zhan had to apologize for the fan fiction but not the WRITER of it is absolutely insane…
I think he did the best he could in those moments. I'm sure it was his team who probably advised him to not say anything either. I don't think anyone thought the problem would get out of hand like it did. I watched the Untamed too and really did like Xiao Zhan in there. It's heartbreaking to hear that he went through this. But very heartwarming knowing that he was so warmly welcomed during his comeback performance. Made me teary-eyed and I'm glad he came back.
U know the day is gonna be a good day when Stephanie posts a new video
Yeah. Listening to this 12 mins after upload and it’s 4am in my town. 😁
I’m glad Xiao Zhan came back from all that chaos. Pretty sure his drama The Youth Memories is on its 14th broadcast this year🎉 He’s rose from the ashes and came out even greater. I’m so happy for him.
I was so mad that I couldn't take it. Imagine banning two people from even meeting eachother just because a third person wrote a damn ff about them !??? Like how is anyone of it is their fault? They both are amazing actors and so good friends....you see yibo is a private person but he is really close to zhan and he is comfortable with him. But guess what? No more. This is just insane.... they dragged down the actor when he is not at all at fault. I am glad he is doing better.
I’m so glad you re covering this, I thought the whole incident was INSANE. I became a fan of XZ and WYB in like late 2021, started shipping them and then slowly began to see weird comments regarding the 227 incident so of course I had to look into it. Overall, no matter how I looked at it, I couldn’t see why he got so much hate and that’s not just because I like XZ 😂 some of the hater comments looked really, really unhinged and really disrespectful.
So truee😂
Right? That's just so stupid. They both seem like good friends too shipping aside. So i feel bad that they're no longer interacting because of this stupid scandal
The toxicity of the xz haters 227 alliance far outdoes that of the segment of extreme XZ fans. Their intense 24/7hate campaign lasted a year with death threats to his friends and family and harassment of any company thinking of hiring him.Their end goal was to drive XZ to suicide.
@@lynseoltang1183they are still contacting each others in private i hope wether if its friendship or not their bond was so wholesome
samee got into the fandom early 2021 and at that time the 227 incident was so taboo that nobody's saying anything, even the shippers. so new fans like me that time were so lost lmaoo
To give context, about the red ocean -- what they meant by "not being able to get group tickets" -- the fans got tickets individually, they weren't able to get tickets through fansupport organisations because he had disbanded the original 'fan support group'. so thats why people were extra shocked. the fans were persona non grata, it was so bad the whole chinese internet was hating and bashing every single person who even stood up for him. fans were keeping their heads down, so seeing the red ocean was a shocking moment even for the people who supported him.
Wang Yibo definitely proved himself in Street Dance of China!! I already loved Jackson before I watched SDC but Yibo stole my heart.
It's really tragic how a fanfic has so much power to ruin a relationship
Honestly the fact that people change their mind just because of a scandal is astonishing. Its like watching a kdrama where the lead gets into trouble and the whole country hates them and when proven innocent, loves them back.
But here, it's real. I feel bad for celebraties like Xiao Zhan (not just speaking as his fan but as a person). LITERALLY! Their whole life is depicted on people's opinion.
Say bad, their life is ruined. Say good, their life gets better. It's like we are putting them into a roller coaster without them knowing what kind of height they will be going through.
I'm just glad, things got resolved (not fully i assume but 60% is my estimation). I just hope good influencers don't get cancelled or get into trouble for something they never agreed or had intentions on.
Stay safe & love y'all ✌️✌️
Some actors evade tax, abort child, extort fans, and sex scandals, but they never get to blame the actors because of strong backing of companies. When if it is xiao zhan he have to be responsible with everything including his antis and fans actions.
Yes exactly what I am thinking,this wasn't even his fault and he has to shoulder the blame just because of a crazy fanfic writer who likes to fantasize about real people having sex😑
This incident was absolutely. I’m happy that steph covered this. XZ AND WYB are such amazing actors
I can't help but think... what if these two actually were together ? Can you imagine how humiliating, oppressing and exposing this whole situation could have been for them ?
Now, Xiao Zhan is bigger and brighter than ever ❤️ Wherever he goes people just love him because he is humble and takes time to thank his fan by bowing and showing his gratitude. He is a star worth being stan! I love him before and i love him ever more now ❣️😍 his drama recently are massive hits! And he slay in Singapore 💚
OMG I was waiting for you to cover this! The Untamed was such a good series and XZ and WYB had such great chemistry. Thanks for all your hardwork!❤❤
This was insane. NONE of it was his fault.
Thank god he didn’t give into the pain and end things.
This happened during lockdown, so our phones and internet were our escape.
He must have felt terrible since the whole world turned on him
The way I teared up when I saw the red ocean. 😭