Clocks on. Go back to how we all grew up admiring the fastest cars at the track! No time is dead. Give the fans a reason to get in the stands and watch the action! All my racing videos I show all my times including timeslips. Rock on John!
I say clock's on, like you've stated most of us know what people run, backside, front side. Then you take no prep cars to timed events, Big tire, radial and in-between, Kye winning Snowbirds with his NPK car which is same chassis and drivetrain of a promod, Tin soldier Charlie Brown and Billy SRC going to the Finals at Cletus race even though there "no prep" cars racing radial prep, the Preston's, Ryan Mitchell, Joey.....the list goes on and on with people that will be fast, the only ones upset with times shown are the slow ones or just straight up Hustler's.
Kye's car is basically the same, minus one major advantage for a pro mod. Kye's car is no prep kings +/- 1" of factory wheelbase. His car is not stretched, or narrowed in the front. Other that that, I agree with everything you said. Turn the clocks on. Had to point that out, because I think it's a big advantage for a pro mod.
I think at the end of the day racers are competitive. If they need to run a 4.20 they will find a way to do so. Regardless of what time you’re rubbing, you just need to beat the car next to you
Clocks on,finish line light on,keep the human judgement to a minimum. I mean looking at phones for tire crack,or finishes to close to visually call. I grew up at so cal bracket races and it was interesting.
Racing has changed so much over the years and you can't please everyone. It doesn't matter if the clock is on or off. I agree so much with Randy. I've so many racers get burned down but the one that burned them down doesn't want the clocks on. Too me that's just a dirty racer and makes people want the lights on.
Only reason I can see for not having time shown it's for the people that are betting against each other which doesn't make any money for the track owner
It would matter if we as spectators watched a full race and all cars that raced ran mid 14s😂. Imagine people setting through a couple of bears bumping in, sounding raunchy, and run a "real" 14. And the racers say they are running 7s, pulling the chutes at the big end, not fast enough to expand the chutes. Everyone would be screaming "CLOCKS ON!"
Clocks on keeps the BIG MONEY people in their lane instead of puppy kicking , it's a rich man's game anymore brother , small tire no prep is crazy now , due to the payout
This debate is going on up here at MIR NoClock Street. I don't know if it makes a difference at this point everyone has a video recording and a stopwatch. The fan's like on racers seem to like them off 🤷.
Great subject 4 a little conversation. I like to see the times,evan more so when the no time cars race a clocks on race.But I still watch no time races aswell,Times,No Times,Drag and Drive I don't care I'm a fan of it all.Thanks Guys.
Not all of us can afford to run a "fast" car. 5 second cars are far from slow. Hell my coyote stock style Ranger runs 6.05 but its a completely stock coyote with a g force trans and I am still getting used to this new black magic clutch. Oh, and I can drive my truck to the track and back 50 miles without issues.
This is the difference between a "RACECAR" and a "car that you treat like a racecar" lol no disrespect, and simply for perspective the drag and drive cars are legit racecars that do exactly what your car does except they run high 4's to the 1/8th @damianlindsey6177
Look at the last Xmas tree race , you had cats that could run 6s in the quarter VS cats that could barely run 8s , and it's nothing to do with knowledge I know guys that can tune and drive with the best of them but don't have the money to build the power they need to have
Frankenstein is one of the fastest I have ever seen even when tin solders one ..Frankenstein was hauling in on the big end simple as that and a bad track . Always remember SRC s Chanel saying it was in the 170s 8th on the Street. Want to see Randy going to town with that bad boy !!
Turbo john as long as they keep the rules the same 28x10.5 max and no bars.... but I think some people would complain and want 2 different classes with different rules.
294? I can tell you no door car is running 294. 6.94@204. Charlie brown ran in the 70s at 208. But those were quarter mile passes and neither car is running 200 in the 8th on a no prep type surface. Its apples and oranges argument.
Its about the fans, there are plenty of events back side, no prep stuff, and event with clocks available should be on, fans go more crazy and get into it😊
Another thing is seeing a whole shot win, we don't know if someone got tree'd kye was a good example of that, won couple rounds leaving 1st but slower time.
It all boils down to anyone can be beat on any day any surface. You could have the fastest car on the property n doesnt mean crap if it doesnt hook or u red light just means your fast car going back in the box just like slow car
I love drag racing. been to few cool races. if there are clocks, turn them on.,(front side). let the grudge racers have their own race if that makes them happy. Many challenges are far greater than someone knowing your time.
Everybody wants to go fast but some people just don’t want to put the effort in to get faster .. the fading world has gotten really weird .. I love racing with u guys everytime we are at an event we have some bad ass racing me turbo John Randy Shannon everybody
No matter how fast or slow you are you still have to race the track. Too much power it goes up in smoke, wheelies,or smokes the tires. Not enough power you loose. Clocks on every time. Run off a pro tree.
Amazing that people think these racers are not smart enough to know if they are a contender (if the car hooks) as if TJ or Ryan Mitchell go to any event thinking "there is a twin turbo LS foxbody, on a tire, might as well load up and go home"😂
No matter how good you are the people with the most money will always be on top , because they got the money to spend to get faster and faster and most of them know what they are doing and can drive
Naturally grudge racers don’t want clocks on. In class racing, if clocks are on, promoters will have to index classes appropriately and of course times will help to do that. If not, clocks on will eventually hurt car count. Once guys find out that they can’t compete, they won’t enter knowing that most likely they’re just donating.
Shit, the Frankenstein Vette is a 100K roller with a 50k+ drivetrain set up. Budget guys in real cars can't compete. Thats the name of the game though. Money makes the world go round but it also ruins everything
There needs to be classes for those cars that just aren't million dollar cars. Most guys can put together a small tire car, more affordable chassis, still a good motor and be competitive. Like all sports its not the pros traveling teams, it's the smal guys who keep this sport alive. Yes there are more top of the line cars then ever but not all of us can do that but want to race
We built a new motor new heads and was told 1 year no clocks on. We said here’s a picture of old motor this is new. Didn’t matter. 4.70s ten years ago single fogger
The racer can be mad as they want. I can video you from the time the light comes on or your bumper moves. Then i take another phone and use the stop watch on it till your light comes on or you cross the line. I wanted to build and app that would do this. using the center of your rim and the finish line. Tell the app the distance and there you have it. Your competitor's time. This was 65k to have built. I can get within .1 most of the time and usually .05 with good videos. This is plenty good for knowing if you have enough.
Get in where you fit in. Remember 275 was supposed to be for the weekend warriors/average Joe's. Every thing evolves. Hope Old man's plates and 28s stay the same.
Some guys don’t want the clocks on because they don’t want people to know how slow they are 😂
Clocks on n front ends on.
💯 clocks don't really bother me but not knowing what kind of car, half the field is, pisses me off. Yeah I can tell what they are, but damn com'on man
Clocks on. Serious racers all know roughly what they run and others do
That Cletus race with clocks on, i thought was awesome!!!
Its also prepped and 1/4 mile
@ yep, as a spectator, seeing times added to it. Could just be because we never see em.
Clocks on. Go back to how we all grew up admiring the fastest cars at the track! No time is dead. Give the fans a reason to get in the stands and watch the action! All my racing videos I show all my times including timeslips. Rock on John!
An awesome time flashing on the billboards is super cool imo.
I say clock's on, like you've stated most of us know what people run, backside, front side. Then you take no prep cars to timed events, Big tire, radial and in-between, Kye winning Snowbirds with his NPK car which is same chassis and drivetrain of a promod, Tin soldier Charlie Brown and Billy SRC going to the Finals at Cletus race even though there "no prep" cars racing radial prep, the Preston's, Ryan Mitchell, Joey.....the list goes on and on with people that will be fast, the only ones upset with times shown are the slow ones or just straight up Hustler's.
Kye's car is basically the same, minus one major advantage for a pro mod. Kye's car is no prep kings +/- 1" of factory wheelbase. His car is not stretched, or narrowed in the front. Other that that, I agree with everything you said. Turn the clocks on. Had to point that out, because I think it's a big advantage for a pro mod.
Clocks on for the win
Clocks on hell, yes!!!
I was told that a track owner makes money from Spectators and hardly makes anything from the guys that are racing
Concessions is where a track makes money.
Cletus ran clocks on and filled the stands. It was a terrific race. Randy is correct.
Look at Charlie Brown and SRC at Cletus Christmas 🎄 race
Well the changes made to have enough gear and rpm for quarter mile doesn't compare to their eighth mile setups.
Exactly SRC n CB had som great runs
@@robwigglezz944 no different than being on a different track/surface
I was excited to see an SRC number
I think at the end of the day racers are competitive. If they need to run a 4.20 they will find a way to do so. Regardless of what time you’re rubbing, you just need to beat the car next to you
I agree turn them on. Racers know basically what everyone is running . It would be more interesting for the spectators and tracks need them.
Clocks on,finish line light on,keep the human judgement to a minimum. I mean looking at phones for tire crack,or finishes to close to visually call. I grew up at so cal bracket races and it was interesting.
Clocks on be proud of what you RUN.
Should be clocks on especially for fans racers will know pretty close to racers times
There's No Science without math, I like to see the "Boards On"
Racing has changed so much over the years and you can't please everyone. It doesn't matter if the clock is on or off. I agree so much with Randy. I've so many racers get burned down but the one that burned them down doesn't want the clocks on. Too me that's just a dirty racer and makes people want the lights on.
Clocks on for the spectators and the sponsors 🏦
Clocks on absolutely
If you're at a drag strip with a Timing System the clock should be on and you should always use the lights to start the race
😅 John I'm here I think clock on
Clocks on , and I'm a slow guy , it's called racing not winning
You don't race times. You race the car next to you. But just my opinion. People are allowed to think differently
It totally matters for The Spectators to have the clocks on!
Only reason I can see for not having time shown it's for the people that are betting against each other which doesn't make any money for the track owner
Kc Maxx was going , 4.30s in the heat at Shadyside , along with a bunch of others at the last KOTS at Shadyside
I have sat at the big end with a radar gun for yrs
Too bad I miss the live stream. But I can watch this type of topics all day!!
The spectators wanna see the times and that’s who keeps ALL the tracks open that we ALL race on.
It would matter if we as spectators watched a full race and all cars that raced ran mid 14s😂. Imagine people setting through a couple of bears bumping in, sounding raunchy, and run a "real" 14. And the racers say they are running 7s, pulling the chutes at the big end, not fast enough to expand the chutes. Everyone would be screaming "CLOCKS ON!"
It don't matter but it's people who try to class and grudge also that's where clocks on can be a spoiler like you said it's the hustle
Yup, just shy of 4 Mississippi's by my count and knew it was 3.80's-3.90's. Just running from jump to finish line light shows that on videos or live.
Racing needs spectators. Streetcars such as myself out biggest events are clocks ON!!
Clocks on ! I hear people all the time saying they don't like going to the track anymore because its all n/t shown .. Sucks for the spectators
Clocks on keeps the BIG MONEY people in their lane instead of puppy kicking , it's a rich man's game anymore brother , small tire no prep is crazy now , due to the payout
Our buddy up here will only race no time, of people know he is coming some people wont show.
This debate is going on up here at MIR NoClock Street. I don't know if it makes a difference at this point everyone has a video recording and a stopwatch. The fan's like on racers seem to like them off 🤷.
Speed cost, how fast do you wanna ride? I learned that a long time ago.
Great subject 4 a little conversation. I like to see the times,evan more so when the no time cars race a clocks on race.But I still watch no time races aswell,Times,No Times,Drag and Drive I don't care I'm a fan of it all.Thanks Guys.
I like both. Depends on the racing.
If they do boards on and a paycheck for the first 3 and entry back to say 8th out of 20+ cars will bring in spectators and racers.
The clocks don’t need to be on for a 5 second guy to know that’s all he can run
Not all of us can afford to run a "fast" car. 5 second cars are far from slow. Hell my coyote stock style Ranger runs 6.05 but its a completely stock coyote with a g force trans and I am still getting used to this new black magic clutch. Oh, and I can drive my truck to the track and back 50 miles without issues.
This is the difference between a "RACECAR" and a "car that you treat like a racecar" lol no disrespect, and simply for perspective the drag and drive cars are legit racecars that do exactly what your car does except they run high 4's to the 1/8th @damianlindsey6177
Look at the last Xmas tree race , you had cats that could run 6s in the quarter VS cats that could barely run 8s , and it's nothing to do with knowledge I know guys that can tune and drive with the best of them but don't have the money to build the power they need to have
Clocks on so you can tune your car
Enjoy watching y'all
Clock on
I really like the idea of BUILT not Bought to a certain extent !
Personally I don't think it matters like you said you're either going to spend or win
If its a N/T race then clocks off. If you dont like it then dont go
Frankenstein is one of the fastest I have ever seen even when tin solders one ..Frankenstein was hauling in on the big end simple as that and a bad track .
Always remember SRC s Chanel saying it was in the 170s 8th on the Street.
Want to see Randy going to town with that bad boy !!
Clocks on ,
Turbo john as long as they keep the rules the same 28x10.5 max and no bars.... but I think some people would complain and want 2 different classes with different rules.
Let's the clock speak the truth.
Can’t be the fastest anything with clocks off💯
It's room for both times on times off
Billy doesn’t care they ran 694 291 mph at cleetuses Christmas tree racer
294? I can tell you no door car is running 294. 6.94@204. Charlie brown ran in the 70s at 208. But those were quarter mile passes and neither car is running 200 in the 8th on a no prep type surface. Its apples and oranges argument.
201...not 291...lol
Its about the fans, there are plenty of events back side, no prep stuff, and event with clocks available should be on, fans go more crazy and get into it😊
Guys always good to see you ok have a great ❤🇱🇷💪 weekend later
Another thing is seeing a whole shot win, we don't know if someone got tree'd kye was a good example of that, won couple rounds leaving 1st but slower time.
Spectator yes
Driver probably not
It all boils down to anyone can be beat on any day any surface. You could have the fastest car on the property n doesnt mean crap if it doesnt hook or u red light just means your fast car going back in the box just like slow car
No spectators: clocks off
Spectators: clocks on !
I love drag racing. been to few cool races. if there are clocks, turn them on.,(front side). let the grudge racers have their own race if that makes them happy. Many challenges are far greater than someone knowing your time.
Everybody wants to go fast but some people just don’t want to put the effort in to get faster .. the fading world has gotten really weird .. I love racing with u guys everytime we are at an event we have some bad ass racing me turbo John Randy Shannon everybody
Now days the RVW & 275 cars are doing 3.60@200 275 cars like Cletus McFarlane in Eagle they’re gonna run 275
They have so much glue down they can’t shoes on the crew.
No matter how fast or slow you are you still have to race the track. Too much power it goes up in smoke, wheelies,or smokes the tires. Not enough power you loose. Clocks on every time. Run off a pro tree.
Amazing that people think these racers are not smart enough to know if they are a contender (if the car hooks) as if TJ or Ryan Mitchell go to any event thinking "there is a twin turbo LS foxbody, on a tire, might as well load up and go home"😂
Clocks on specially on no prep
No matter how good you are the people with the most money will always be on top , because they got the money to spend to get faster and faster and most of them know what they are doing and can drive
Naturally grudge racers don’t want clocks on.
In class racing, if clocks are on, promoters will have to index classes appropriately and of course times will help to do that. If not, clocks on will eventually hurt car count. Once guys find out that they can’t compete, they won’t enter knowing that most likely they’re just donating.
People that complain need to step it up. We know how fast a car should be for the combination, if you get beat guess your slow.
On. Always On.
Ya its so fast now u need a 60k engine at least and a good chassis with 4 link
The Canadian guy that won dig or die car is probably 100k
Shit, the Frankenstein Vette is a 100K roller with a 50k+ drivetrain set up. Budget guys in real cars can't compete. Thats the name of the game though. Money makes the world go round but it also ruins everything
clocks on
I have seen it boil down to the driver martin Conley makes clean passes
I dont care too much about clock times. I say only show them a few times a year. Kinda exciting that way
If race enough you know roughly how fast everyone is
Clocks on always...use the technology it took a hundred years to develop.
There needs to be classes for those cars that just aren't million dollar cars. Most guys can put together a small tire car, more affordable chassis, still a good motor and be competitive. Like all sports its not the pros traveling teams, it's the smal guys who keep this sport alive. Yes there are more top of the line cars then ever but not all of us can do that but want to race
I can tell you who made the highest mph at dig or die lol
On
Personally as a spectator I’d like to see times. 🤷🏼♀️
How is the dodge coming
well street racers running for cash and they know beater bomb will show up, they will run away.
What ever happened to figuring out how to get by your opponent
We built a new motor new heads and was told 1 year no clocks on. We said here’s a picture of old motor this is new. Didn’t matter. 4.70s ten years ago single fogger
It doesn’t bother me either way
When are you coming back to Knoxville? Clocks on. Front ends on!
What you saying John you'll be fast on downhill race
Clocks on are great for showing races won on the tree.
I hate I missed this!!
Clocks on is way better for spectator
We need to go back to roots of racing
The racer can be mad as they want. I can video you from the time the light comes on or your bumper moves. Then i take another phone and use the stop watch on it till your light comes on or you cross the line. I wanted to build and app that would do this. using the center of your rim and the finish line. Tell the app the distance and there you have it. Your competitor's time. This was 65k to have built. I can get within .1 most of the time and usually .05 with good videos. This is plenty good for knowing if you have enough.
I hate the internet right now because of this clocks on/off conversation🙄 Someone let me know when it’s is done running it’s course.
I heard they were
If you are a true racer you gonna regardless and you will have to get in wear you fit in like jimmy dale does
Get in where you fit in. Remember 275 was supposed to be for the weekend warriors/average Joe's. Every thing evolves. Hope Old man's plates and 28s stay the same.
CLOCKS ON ASAP CLOCKS ON 2025