Trickstab Tutorial: The Matador (and Cornerstab)
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- G'day all MrPaladin here.
My most reliable trickstab is the matador or the corner stab. As a spy you are often chased by enemies who have spotted you but they are either in melee or on a weapon that is for close range and they chase you down.
Because of this you can use your motion or your environment to pull off a Matador or a Cornerstab.
1: Enemy is chasing you, melee preferred.
2: Stop your forward or backward motion use only strafe.
3: Juke one way quickly then back the other. Juking to your right then back to your left is preferred due to a favorable hitbox on that side of the enemy.
4: depending on your lag you might have to stab before you see their back or see your knife raised. Trust that their back will be there when the server does the hit calculations.
5: Walk away like a boss!
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I started playing TF2 2 years ago.
Before I knew how sapper works, I thought the sapper is used to disguise as a sentry
That is...
Amazing.
@@LukeBeadles and I came back last march after a 3 year hiatus
@@joelwilliam624 I came back last November after about a 5 year hiatus
Luke Beadles
“He didn’t destroy the sentry, He became the sentry”
that'd be awesome
I don’t know if you will see this because it’s an old video, but I just want to say thank you for teaching me and other spies these amazing methods. I just wish I could pull them off like you...
the best feeling for me is matadoring,corner stabbing or any kind of trickstabbing a pyro while using a spycicle
Nice, i love the idea of the spy-cicle but i hate that it melts on flames mostly is because people spy check everything now a days.
Nathan lol i trickstabbed a pyro that was using a CRITTED PHLOG with my spycicle with 2hp i managed to matador the pyro with 1hp remaining but then i fell off a ledge and my ringer wasnt ready so i knew i was gone, then suddenly, a F2P medic with a stardust crusader random critted me bringing me back to full hp whilst landing on a large ammo pack and getting a kill on a fully charged red medic and a mvp heavy. Thank you medic.
Devon Bagares Bullshit.
We all know you're lieing
Well yeah it makes sense that it would melt otherwise it would be overpowered. That would be like a Razorback that never broke, or a phlog that could airblast.
Pure strafing without w and s buttons is by far the best advice. Already got so many trickstabs thanks to that. I always accidentally used w and s with strafing buttons but when I stopped it all got so much better
What do you say to the god of death? not today...
That is what you say to Loki for avengers
thanks mr.p you maid me a spy main and let me get almost 300 hours on spy
Good examples there, Mr.P.
I've gotten more used to a different type of matador, one that involves walking towards the enemy, while you're trying to strafe around him to your left. When you get near melee reach, you strafe right for a split second and strafe to the left again. This often leaves the enemy overreacting to your juke and opens them up for the stab.
ald- much like a failed cornerstab, if you go too early on the cornerstab you can always turn it back the other way into a matrador.
+MrPaladin I cant wait till my dream come's to and my fave yotuber replies to me xD
let's be honest here
spy is just learning how to abuse lag and hitboxes
and also for detecting hackers
lets be honest here...
every class is just learning how to abuse lag and hitboxes
and for being called a hacker...
Touché
+Komrade Meep right in the feels meep ;_;
im sry pip but it's true D:
Komrade Meep unless you're playing gunspy. in that case you're just playing sniper scout
Tips for avoiding these vs a Spy:
- Don't use melee
- Don't follow a spy, he's baiting you
- Keep your distance if he has his knife out, but get closer if he has the Amby out.
A spy is successful by punishing you for mistakes. Never make a mistake against a Spy.
also never press "S", always strafe
Batatat if the spy is Circle Strafing ?
Insert Name Here TF Amby spies will headshot you with a crit and make u run like an abused dog
rule 3 is easily exploitable by spies. they can not only use amby to scare opponents/lower their health but also close the distance for a trickstab
0:43 i like how he pushed a spy back to spawn
"Go back son, you're not ready for this"
3:17 That medic was like, "Oh shoot, he can trickstab. I'm out."
1:33 "There's more steps involved in a stair stab" Pun intended?
You know I often play Pyro as my main, but recently I've been playing as Spy and I've attempted to keep your lessons and advice in mind and I have to say, it has certainly helped. I mean, I'm a pretty bad Spy compared to most, but I have managed to pull off a few trickstabs. Needless to say, thank you for all this advice Mr P :)
:)
As Mr.Paladin waltz across the valley of death, he shall fear no evil.
Matador
More like metador
I like how this has only one reply even tho it’s iLander
I thought it was an insult.
I thought he said
*mad at all*
4:38 I have now lost respect for you
you've missed a video lol -> ruclips.net/video/8gh-FTQIHew/видео.html
By now I've only once performed a successful corner stab.
It happened on 2fort, I was badly blooded by enemy spy and scout, and I was escaping into the corridor from under our right spawn. I knew that scout will probably follow me though and I had no chance to survive by keeping running, so I decided to turn around and fight. And it just happened to happen as I predicted: scout chased me taking corner short, and I managed to corner stab him.
I was immediately gunned down by a spy, but this was definitely a moment to remember.
Same thing happened to me but with a pyro lmao. That was my first trickstab. Completely on accident lmao.
MrP, could you please consider doing some Turbine footage? I find that I have a really hard time playing spy on that map and would love to see how a pro handles it.
CTF maps only work if the team actually tries to cap the flag... if your team is trying then help them out no matter how it costs your life when you do it.
Omg, Mr. P, PLEASE do Turbine!!!!! I have been dying to see you play on there for forever!!!!!!
Yo, LITERALLY would love to see this god on Turbine! Finally see how to play spy in thaet map...
turbine plz
Problem with turbine as Spy is the scarce ammount of ammo boxes. There are only two and in the bases, not even the middle where most of the action takes place. The only watch I see favorable is the Cloak n' Dagger which helps you to sneak undetected until their spawn and from there start stabbing people. Dead ringer is effective only if there are no snipers at the back of the flag entrance (theres too much to walk if hit at the middle).
Hey MrPaladin, love your videos!
Been getting so much better at spy ever since I started to watch them. ;D
I'm glad they helped!
The spy is perhaps the only character in video game industry where player require to use awareness and study more than any game
2021 but your trickstabs helped! I did my first corner stab, matador, and a stairstab on a medic, a Soldier and a Sniper. Tysm
Glad to hear it!
I got Mr Paladin to reply :o
The other 2 stabs are the ones I did it with HIGH PING
this actually works amazingly with the backburner
i know my next main class
yes u do. (answering 3yr comment is legal)
@@artemiygogolev6395 yeah haha, been on and off with tf2, but after 500 hours of spy, i got bored, so currently maining demo.
@@mcfuckface7149 o
@@TheFalseShepphard Been playing since 2015, still going strong!
Spy is my main cause I can't aim.
idk why I got so excited when i saw this trickstab tutorial by mr.p...
looking forward for the part 2...
might focus one on the stairstab sometime... even tho its covered in the full trickstab tutorial video sometimes people need extra help on it.
Yesterday I have done my first corner stab. I mean a calculated one, not a lucky one. Thank you very much for your videos
Its so satisfying to get a blind stairstab.
Its so funny when you get a cornerstab.
ITS SO AWESOME WHEN YOU GET A MATADOR!
These are my favorite types of videos.
thanks MrPaladin i really had problem with corner and This really Help!! Thanks Man.
Mr.Paladin your my favorite RUclipsr that plays tf2 and how to explain to get different stabs as spy
Thanks, I've never really known how you do matadors, but now I do
As a medic main, whenever someone matadors me I cry.
Lovely day for a lovely video on the day of love!
Corner stab and matador stabs! My favorites
I love how you put oper music at the outro and i think you know why
Day 4
I am learning more on how to be a good spy. I have not been able to pull a trickstab but the time will come.
I must go back to learning.
Thanks for the trick stab tutorial I had trouble getting corner stabs
ffs you are the most badass trickstabbing I've ever seen :))) if you make a video for your movement keys while doing that would be awesome!
always wanted to know how to matador thanks Mr. Paladin!
Thanks Mr.P with this knowledge I got my first matador this morning.
How did he know i wanted to learn trickstabs. Mr.Paladin, you're a wizard.
Mr. Paladin you are a great spy and are very smart. I don't know if I learned trickstabs from you or on my own but I've gotta 2 Matadors and 2 cornerstabs in my first 2 weeks since I downloaded the game. I have trickstabbed more experienced players surprisingly. I would love it if you replied to this, also my funniest moment so far is when I got stuck in a vent with a pyro on turbine and I had spycicle so I thought I was screwed but then I went for it anyways and just got a random face stab. One last thing... Thank you :)
to be honest I learned how to matador by watching your gameplay
You're a spy God! If I run into you I'd run away.
What is really going to make your spying improve is knowing how the hitboxes and lag compensation work. But what's most important is MOVEMENT, sure trickstabs are something essental you must know.
But once you've mastered the more basic corner, matador, stair stabs, and also the more advanced ones like reverse/blind variations, c2c, snap n' stab and circle strafe stab(and other ones) next thing to do is focus on movement. Or even before trying to learn any trickstab, focusing on movement is what will keep you alive most of the times, not only that, but in most situations you'll learn to reach an oponent's back without a trickstab, or escape really easily by making the enemy lose track of you.
I really recommend watching Slurgi for movement and HU6A and CulRulDud for some less known trickstabs.
thank you for this video i get like 25 corner stabs 20trick stabs every time i play thanks for this video also some people at server ask how i do it i say watch MrPaladin and learn
:)
Mr.Paladins the best dad in the world
;)
Some people are so aware these days that it doesn't always work for your favour. I always seem to notice where you think they'll go for the stair stab but instead the corner or matador, it's actually a good plan as people expect a spy to most likely go ahead and do so. I always seem to die because I find the revolver in some cases so more useful.
I'm so happy you do that I'm so bad at those trickstabs thank you 😊
Funny thing is, with the exception of the Dead Ringer, your outro card has nearly my entire Spy loadout (Ambassador, Black Rose, Cloak and Dagger, standard Sapper).
The feeling, when you do a matador to a kid, who went demoknight and he calls you a hacker.........
I will never stop loving it.
Probably the most important stab to learn as spy
“That wasn’t a face stab, that was a matador.” -PazyLurple
Very nice tutorial! It helped me alot! Thanks! You are the best!
Thx Mr. P! This helped me in my future endeavors...
;)
I was waiting for new tricks stap tutorial.. :0
finally..... :)
very interesting and beautiful corner stabs
ohhh dude. I didn't know about server's hit calculation, when Im trying the matador I always wait til I see their back, so I fail, Thanks for explaining that.
"Spy's stab is the fastest thing registered on the server."
*dies to the rocket jumping soldier when i clearly backstabbed the soldier first*
oh my god only know do i realize you only STRAFE i missed so many trickstabs because my brain was saying "hold S" or "hold W" thanks so much
This actually helped me to escape more often as a medic without healing target
Getting a matador on the two try-hard battle medics just makes me feel SO happy inside!
Swinging your knife just for the hell of it and actually backstabbing a cloaked spy
Thank you, this was very helpful. I get about 10 matadors/cornerstabs every 6-9 minutes!
Melon Man no
Thanks! i always did this stab, but without the change direction thing, thanks!!!
You're awesome. I've always wanted one of these tutorials!
thank you for the kind words.
isnt it the most scary thing when your eating a sandvich and from 3rd person view you just see a spy uncloak
MrP i have a problem...
IM ADDICT TO YOUR CHANNEL
Mr.Paladin i was that soldier that said thanks to you ☺
mr. P. we miss this
i made this!
im already proud of myself if I get a trickstab.. for mr.p a trickstab is a everyday doing xD
I still making jokes like: Hey dont mess whit me i watched a pro pley mr paladin spy toturial.
I love this tutorial! Also, I always used to call matadors as the 'invisible cornerstab' because I sorta create a corner when i perform a matador
You make it look so easy! And every time I play to practice my behaviour as spy and trickstabs I fail my trickstabs.
OMG you did what you said :D on the discord
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that meme xD P.S can we be friends on steam? Dont worry im not spamming!
CyberHydra lol, what did he say on discord
Jack O'Shaughnessy
yea xD
Noice m8 Now u can tricksteb liek a pruh
"... more steps involved in a stair stab" oh Mr Palidin :P
;)
MrPaladin you are the best you help me out as a spy in tf2 a lot thanks ✔
I got my first trickstab because of you :)
Mr.paladin has the best usernames
This was super helpful! Thanks!
Mr paladin u have no haters 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
aint got no time for haters...
XD he killed it !!
lol, Mr. Paladin still exist
YOU MAKE IT LOOK SO EASY
02.4.2017 my first stair stab proud of me mr p?
Fo
rtnite
You should make a video showing some jumps tabs off of props other than stairs, like rails, lumps of dirt, etc.
THANK YOU I HIT MY FIRST CORNER STAB.
Chillin like a Villain
I love how the last heavy could have lived if he was in the corner.
you do not want to rely on trick stabs as spy all the time. remember is a last resort for when you can't escape and the enemy knows you are a spy. i have found many spy users that try to trick stab but forget their target can predict them as well so all i do is make them go for a trick stab and i land a hit on them wile evading, bait them to another stab and land another hit on them wile avoiding their stab. i mostly do this as medic to charge my ubber faster and then charge my team other wise i go for the kill with the primary with same tactic.
I love how it's like mrP gets a billion kills before he dies I don't even be know if he even dies it's like impossible to take him down
The one that gets me is when I forgot about ping and wait until I see there backs.
this is what i need tks Mr P
Watching MrP in 1080P looks strange
You are amazing! I can't get it to work as smooth as you do it :)
I have to practice more I guess ;)
you r a legend in spies
I got to get better at these techniques. I've learned to flow across the map and wait for opportunities similar to how you do in these videos, but I don't get near the same amount of kills. I find that where I stab one and get killed by someone else, you manage to trickstab the pursuer and get away. Hopefully getting better acquainted with trickstab techniques will allow me to get out of trouble more often.
So If I understand it correctly
When doing the matador, press one strafe key(A or D) then hold the opposite strafe key then stab,right?
I get that your a busy guy but i think that you should give us footage of highlander gameplay or even valve matchmaking. Introducing more people to comp is a great way of expanding the tf2 community. Anyways, nice video
That pyro with the fireman hat looked like Nate fox
Two videos in one day? Aww yeah!
I have so much footage... some of these clips are from other videos I want to do :)
That final Heavy could have known you weren't dead; he had his Tomi out and picked up your fake ammo box, which shouldn'tve given him ammo - at which point he should've turned, but alas.
So as an Engineer main, I realize I'm in the lion's den here :P -- but I have a question for all of you who can perform these stabs. What, if anything, makes them harder to execute for you?
I get matador stabbed; a lot. I'm well aware that the number one tip to avoid this is to not use melee, but I'm practically glued to my rescue ranger, which means my ranged damage will never outcompete that of any Spies' revolver. That leaves me with the option to either engage in ranged combat and pray that the Spy misses one or two of his shots, or pick melee after all and.. well, get facestabbed. Frequently.
Is there anything (e.g. movement patterns, enviromental factors, walls, etc) that you notice makes it harder for you to perform these stabs? Any opponents you can think of that particularly give you trouble?
With the RR, I think I'll always have a low self-defense capability -- but if there's anything I can do to up my chances or buy time until a nearby teammate arrives, then all bits and pieces help!