With such ceramic rod I don't need to do full blown sharpening on whetstones for many many months. In our kitchen is the ceramic rod really one of the most valued tools. Thanks for your video.
I use my ceramic rod fr quick touch ups, and they're great for recurve blades. I also carry a 5" ceramic rod in my pack for touch ups when I'm out in the woods.
On my filet knives I use a chefs steel, then run a ceramic hone..works very well..the key is maintenance, never let the blade go dull..I do thus with every knife I have
Super old video and I know you've talked about this a ton of times in your live shows but with all of your up to date experience, can I still just use dawn soap and a wash rag or is dawn too harsh for the surface abrasive on the rod?
Swipe blade from one end of rod to the other and hold the angle. Less is more with ceramic rods. Don't force the edge into the rod. light pressure strokes.
I use my ceramic rod as an expedient step in freshening up a lightly dull edge or nursing a lightly damaged and dull edge back to health. If there's medium to heavy damage or severely dull edge it goes straight to the stones but for everything else my ceramic rod does a bang up job of putting an edge back on my carry knives. I've even found that some steels respond well to the ceramic rods for burr removal. Those difficult steels respond very well to the rods as an intermediate step after stones but before stropping. Yes, ceramic rods are MANDATORY imo!
I like that big rod of yours 😏 lol.. agree ceramic rods are amazing. As a chef I use em alot to touch up my knives after work. If I need to take out damage I use a diamond rod and then the ceramic. I'm also beginning to like the rod more than a strop to finish most of my knives. It get's rid of the burr easier and leaves a more aggressive edge. I use a 3k rod tho. Everybody should get one and even the cheap ones work well but I do recommend Idahones. Also a good tip for cleaning any diamond rod or stone is a standart eraser for pencils.
i've ordered a retractable diamond sharpener and will substitute a chinese or geman 100x6mm cylindrical ruby sharpening stone! others on Aliexpress have done it too. maybe you wanna try that too and make a video on it?
@@NeevesKnives Smith's Diamond Retractable Sharpener (SKU: DRET), 5$ Wallmart sale price, or 3$ from Aliexpress shipped. 100mm long cylindrical ruby rods in 7 different diameters are new on the market (since 2019), see for example Aliexpress item no. *4000127108510* , which i have on order. The two items match well together! It's for portable sharpening. And believe me, the ruby is finer than your white ceramic. With ruby stones one can achieve mirror polishes. And they are really great for micro deburring. Also read the customer reviews on amazonDOTcom search term
@@NeevesKnives It works marvellously (as expected tbh), it's a bullseye method and so inexpensive: bladeforumsDOTcomSLASHthreadsSLASH1800183 ( replace "DOT" with ".", and "SLASH" with "/", youtube doesn't like url's in comments ) Once you've tried it out yourself and got your own RRS, maybe you'll feel inspired to shoot a video on the topic?
@@leecherlarry i havent tried to cylidrical rubys but i do have a couple flat stones, i believe ive done a video or two on them but was impressed with them as a higher grt finishing stone, or honing stone, very affordable also
@@NeevesKnives oki never mind , thanks for looking into it anyway. I'll try to point other owners of the retractable diamond sharpener to the ruby rod. i think it's a great idea, as i tested it 😎
@@NeevesKnives Awesome. I got into knives in 2014 because I knew others who used and had pocket knives and I was like I want to get one I can get one I'll be okay and I started into it and I'm still here
On an episode that I watched you mentioned if I am right you mentioned using a ceramic rod on thumb studs. How is that done or should I try to find a skinny rod ? I have the Doug Ritter mini RSK G2
I always thought of those ceramic kitchen rods in as a useful tool for maintaining an edge but not for fixing one. I like to cook, which is where I use a majority of my knives, and all the professional chefs I watch use the ceramic rod every 2-3 cuts to knock off any burrs they accrued in the last 20 seconds. 3 cuts to the chicken beast, 4 passes on the ceramicl rod, 3 more cuts on the chicken beast 4 more passes on the ceramic rod until the chicken is all cut up. Chop up 1 carrot and then do 6 passes on the ceramic rod. Rinse and repeat. It's handy to use for quickly maintaining an edge but long term its ineffective at edge repair. Or atleast this was my understanding before the video. Using a ceramic rod regularly means you have to do full sharpening jobs less often. And if your kitchen knife is sharp at the back but dull at the front that means you don't do much chopping. Chopping is primarily for veggies so eat more veggies or else you won't grow up to be big and strong like Popeye!
😆 I use a different knife for my vegies i actually eat lots of vegies, but yes most definitely for maintaining an edge but you can use the for sharpening its ceramic same thing the spyderco ceramic plates are made of or the rods that they sell, I personally wouldnt but i could, ive used it to remove a lot of steel fast befor and the round rods or stones work really good for hawk bill blade shapes. But i usually just hold a little lasnky stone in my hand for those but lots of people prefer round stones.I seen a guy set up a jig to hold his ceramic rod and he did a full Sharpening on a recurve. Your always going to fall to the abilities of the tools you have I guess, if you have something better and faster than thats what you will use. I personally use it for burr removal and edge maintenance on kitchen knives
@@NeevesKnives I bought that Ken Onion Work Sharp a few years back. Most of the time that is what I use. I think stones would work better for a finer edge but when you have a lot of knives on hand and don't want to spend all day sharpening it really helps save time. But where it really struggles is for sharpening large and thick blades. They make a tool sharpening attachment for doing those jobs but I haven't bought one yet.
You could do the same thing on your stone. And for two, I remove burs with whetstones, then take it to a strop. It's not going to hurt your precious diamond plate.
@@vinnie_baggadonuts exactly, a real tactical knife is a super useful all around knife thats great at almost everything. Well built and built for use that will also be a great tool for a sticky situation if you know what i mean
I think metal rods are horrible unless theres diamond on them, this ceramic rod is probably 800 grt give or take a 100 grt if i had to guess, but that is a guess. Its a similar grt to the spyderco medium maybe a little finer than that
What about s35? A Ceramic stone will work on any steel including s35 and even steels far harder than s35, you should use the Ceramic for honing or de burning and use stones for Sharpening
Stops can work to maintain your edge in between sharpening and if they dont then you need to hone or Sharpen. After sharpening stropping is good to do. Diamond rods are great for recurves and edge repair or Sharpening but i reccomend stones or diamond plates
Everyone needs to know that ceramic rods are for straighten the edge of the knife, not sharpen it. It you want to sharpen a knife, use sharpening stone. Ceramic rod is to maintain/straighten the edge.
You can absolutely sharpen on a rod if you know how, recurve blades are sharpened on them all the time, if you know how to sharpen good, rods work great but yes they are mostly used for edge maintenance.
@@classifiedagent8807 yeah most definitely. But I really haven't found any steels that ceramic wont cut, ive found steels that cut slower but thats with anything
@@classifiedagent8807 no not really but i do know to sharpen them you want to use high grt diamond its not like steel where you use a low med and high grt, you start with a higher grt, why do you use Ceramic instead of steel? Is there a reason, i know it takes a long time to dull but I thought they were very prone to chipping, I guess it depends on how and what your cutting and cutting on.
Still pertinent? I was going to ask until I ran across this video. And yeah, I need one of the new knives so put one in a box for me. I'm saving up now...
With such ceramic rod I don't need to do full blown sharpening on whetstones for many many months. In our kitchen is the ceramic rod really one of the most valued tools. Thanks for your video.
I use my ceramic rod fr quick touch ups, and they're great for recurve blades. I also carry a 5" ceramic rod in my pack for touch ups when I'm out in the woods.
Definitely, its nice to have something when out for touch ups esp when doing heavy use like camping exc
I got one for Christmas i love it good to hear the different ways you use it.
You keep this up and I'm going to be an expert before I get my sharpening tools! Lol. Great vid sir! Later
On my filet knives I use a chefs steel, then run a ceramic hone..works very well..the key is maintenance, never let the blade go dull..I do thus with every knife I have
Lots of great advice, thanks
Thanks Jerad. I just bought one and really like it, sounds great too!
Cheers mate
Super old video and I know you've talked about this a ton of times in your live shows but with all of your up to date experience, can I still just use dawn soap and a wash rag or is dawn too harsh for the surface abrasive on the rod?
I’m diggin that big ceramic rod I have to get one I like that thanks bro
Question: are you suppose to run across the rod in the same direction as when you sharpened the knife?
Swipe blade from one end of rod to the other and hold the angle. Less is more with ceramic rods. Don't force the edge into the rod. light pressure strokes.
I use my ceramic rod as an expedient step in freshening up a lightly dull edge or nursing a lightly damaged and dull edge back to health.
If there's medium to heavy damage or severely dull edge it goes straight to the stones but for everything else my ceramic rod does a bang up job of putting an edge back on my carry knives.
I've even found that some steels respond well to the ceramic rods for burr removal. Those difficult steels respond very well to the rods as an intermediate step after stones but before stropping.
Yes, ceramic rods are MANDATORY imo!
Rods are also good for recurve blades.
Yes they are I shoulda said that
With my sticks I always have a burr on one side I can’t get rid of any other tips?
I like that big rod of yours 😏
lol.. agree ceramic rods are amazing. As a chef I use em alot to touch up my knives after work. If I need to take out damage I use a diamond rod and then the ceramic. I'm also beginning to like the rod more than a strop to finish most of my knives. It get's rid of the burr easier and leaves a more aggressive edge. I use a 3k rod tho. Everybody should get one and even the cheap ones work well but I do recommend Idahones. Also a good tip for cleaning any diamond rod or stone is a standart eraser for pencils.
Great info, and i do the same thing with mine but still use the strop at the end, but all great info thanks Camora
Do you have the link for this one or one you recommend, the one is description brings to a electric thing?
I need to learn to sharpen and getting advice and ideas
I have a whole play list of sharpening videos with lots of great info
Can you use ceramic honing rods on super fine grit edges?
Absolutely. Guys that hate stropping often use fine ceramics as an alternative.
i've ordered a retractable diamond sharpener and will substitute a chinese or geman 100x6mm cylindrical ruby sharpening stone! others on Aliexpress have done it too. maybe you wanna try that too and make a video on it?
I'm not sure exactly what it is?
@@NeevesKnives Smith's Diamond Retractable Sharpener (SKU: DRET), 5$ Wallmart sale price, or 3$ from Aliexpress shipped. 100mm long cylindrical ruby rods in 7 different diameters are new on the market (since 2019), see for example Aliexpress item no. *4000127108510* , which i have on order. The two items match well together!
It's for portable sharpening. And believe me, the ruby is finer than your white ceramic. With ruby stones one can achieve mirror polishes. And they are really great for micro deburring. Also read the customer reviews on amazonDOTcom search term
@@NeevesKnives It works marvellously (as expected tbh), it's a bullseye method and so inexpensive:
bladeforumsDOTcomSLASHthreadsSLASH1800183
( replace "DOT" with ".", and "SLASH" with "/", youtube doesn't like url's in comments )
Once you've tried it out yourself and got your own RRS, maybe you'll feel inspired to shoot a video on the topic?
@@leecherlarry i havent tried to cylidrical rubys but i do have a couple flat stones, i believe ive done a video or two on them but was impressed with them as a higher grt finishing stone, or honing stone, very affordable also
@@NeevesKnives oki never mind , thanks for looking into it anyway. I'll try to point other owners of the retractable diamond sharpener to the ruby rod. i think it's a great idea, as i tested it 😎
How long have you been into knives and carried them?
My whole life
@@NeevesKnives Awesome. I got into knives in 2014 because I knew others who used and had pocket knives and I was like I want to get one I can get one I'll be okay and I started into it and I'm still here
On an episode that I watched you mentioned if I am right you mentioned using a ceramic rod on thumb studs. How is that done or should I try to find a skinny rod ? I have the Doug Ritter mini RSK G2
You mean on sharp corners yes you can use a ceramic rod or plate, lansky stone exc.. Just use it lightly
R they good for m390?
I always thought of those ceramic kitchen rods in as a useful tool for maintaining an edge but not for fixing one. I like to cook, which is where I use a majority of my knives, and all the professional chefs I watch use the ceramic rod every 2-3 cuts to knock off any burrs they accrued in the last 20 seconds. 3 cuts to the chicken beast, 4 passes on the ceramicl rod, 3 more cuts on the chicken beast 4 more passes on the ceramic rod until the chicken is all cut up. Chop up 1 carrot and then do 6 passes on the ceramic rod. Rinse and repeat.
It's handy to use for quickly maintaining an edge but long term its ineffective at edge repair. Or atleast this was my understanding before the video. Using a ceramic rod regularly means you have to do full sharpening jobs less often.
And if your kitchen knife is sharp at the back but dull at the front that means you don't do much chopping. Chopping is primarily for veggies so eat more veggies or else you won't grow up to be big and strong like Popeye!
😆 I use a different knife for my vegies i actually eat lots of vegies, but yes most definitely for maintaining an edge but you can use the for sharpening its ceramic same thing the spyderco ceramic plates are made of or the rods that they sell, I personally wouldnt but i could, ive used it to remove a lot of steel fast befor and the round rods or stones work really good for hawk bill blade shapes. But i usually just hold a little lasnky stone in my hand for those but lots of people prefer round stones.I seen a guy set up a jig to hold his ceramic rod and he did a full Sharpening on a recurve. Your always going to fall to the abilities of the tools you have I guess, if you have something better and faster than thats what you will use. I personally use it for burr removal and edge maintenance on kitchen knives
@@NeevesKnives I bought that Ken Onion Work Sharp a few years back. Most of the time that is what I use. I think stones would work better for a finer edge but when you have a lot of knives on hand and don't want to spend all day sharpening it really helps save time.
But where it really struggles is for sharpening large and thick blades. They make a tool sharpening attachment for doing those jobs but I haven't bought one yet.
Do you know where I could get a rod with no handle?
Yes sharpening supplies.com
You could do the same thing on your stone. And for two, I remove burs with whetstones, then take it to a strop. It's not going to hurt your precious diamond plate.
I'm normally not a tactical knife guy.... That Terzola is so freaking gorgeous though
It really is and he makes all kinds of amazing knives, a real tactical knife is not like the knives that are perceived as tactical
@@NeevesKnives agreed... Most are just aggressive looking so they get defined as tactical
@@vinnie_baggadonuts exactly, a real tactical knife is a super useful all around knife thats great at almost everything. Well built and built for use that will also be a great tool for a sticky situation if you know what i mean
Really like that video. I have the green giant rod. What grit do you use on your rod??
Also what do you think of sharpening rods that are metal???
I think metal rods are horrible unless theres diamond on them, this ceramic rod is probably 800 grt give or take a 100 grt if i had to guess, but that is a guess. Its a similar grt to the spyderco medium maybe a little finer than that
@@NeevesKnives The rods I have seem are coarse, medium, or fine. So I would guess medium??
@@rickkerans8485 yes medium i have different ceramic that are fine and ultra fine but this rod is a medium for sure
How about s35vn steel?
What about s35? A Ceramic stone will work on any steel including s35 and even steels far harder than s35, you should use the Ceramic for honing or de burning and use stones for Sharpening
I'll be apart of the live. I was told Strops work well with no stones and burs are needed to get. What about diamond Rods?
Stops can work to maintain your edge in between sharpening and if they dont then you need to hone or Sharpen. After sharpening stropping is good to do. Diamond rods are great for recurves and edge repair or Sharpening but i reccomend stones or diamond plates
Everyone needs to know that ceramic rods are for straighten the edge of the knife, not sharpen it. It you want to sharpen a knife, use sharpening stone. Ceramic rod is to maintain/straighten the edge.
You can absolutely sharpen on a rod if you know how, recurve blades are sharpened on them all the time, if you know how to sharpen good, rods work great but yes they are mostly used for edge maintenance.
@@NeevesKnives Yes. It aslo depends on the material of the knife. If harder steel=slow to sharpen. If softer steel=fast to sharpen it.
@@classifiedagent8807 yeah most definitely. But I really haven't found any steels that ceramic wont cut, ive found steels that cut slower but thats with anything
@@NeevesKnives have you ever use ceramic knives? They are hard to sharpen. I have one. I use it for my work as a chef.
@@classifiedagent8807 no not really but i do know to sharpen them you want to use high grt diamond its not like steel where you use a low med and high grt, you start with a higher grt, why do you use Ceramic instead of steel? Is there a reason, i know it takes a long time to dull but I thought they were very prone to chipping, I guess it depends on how and what your cutting and cutting on.
I use a spyderco golden stone and a sharpmaker to sharpen 35vn, 20cv, 30cv with good results.
Thats awesome! Use what ya got and what works
👍👍👍👍 nice
If you go that route you actually would want to finish with a honing steel. Same routine as professional kitchens.
I prefer ceramic, I do lots of freehand sharpening so i have no problem just sharpening on one of my stones.
Still pertinent? I was going to ask until I ran across this video. And yeah, I need one of the new knives so put one in a box for me. I'm saving up now...
this is a butchers best friend
Looking at the cuts in your fingers tells me you are not really good with knives.