I'm a 75 year old South African living in New Zealand for 22 years. I have just recommended your history program to my children for them to listen to. You have done an excellent job of research. The younger generation of South Africans know basically nothing of this history. I am very pleased you made a strong mention of the long forgotten, Concentration Camps. I also well remember an elderly Boer Lady telling me how they had to bury their precious polished dining room table in the earth on their farm, to prevent the British from destroying it. The Boer Lady who told this account to me is long ago passed on. Thank you for your good work. Erich, now living in New Zealand.
@@TheHistoryChap what I find absolutely fantastic is how all the commanders on both sides of the conflict got their information. We're so connected these modern days. But how on earth were they so well informed.? Even in the earlier Khartoum expedition. The circle has come full circle in crimea. So depressed that the English government simply cannot stop creating a new war. Along with the cousins in America.
Thank you for a very well balanced exposition on the Anglo Boer war. I am the grandson of a British born grandfather who as a young boy was at the siege of Potchefstroom he fought fought for the Transvaal Republic captured while protecting Paul Kruger who was fleeing to Mozambique. After my G/f capture he was sent to Tuckers Island.
My family are from the Modderivier and Magersfontein region and somehow survived all of this - I used to walk thro' the battle areas near the blockhouses as a child and pick up Martini Henry bullet casings - I will go back there this year to visit my mother and father who are buried there - thank you.
As an American I'd heard of the Boer War but as a child I couldn't find much about it. Thanks so much for your many episodes of this time in history, I now understand what this was all about. Much continued success with your work, I just finished watching the episode describing Thomas Jones' exploits in WW I. Thanks again
It lead to the end of "Splendid Isolation". Much of the World outside of the Empire supported the Boers. Fun fact, Winston Churchill was captured by Italian Mercenaries. He kept that quiet.
Thanks for another great history lesson! I’ve joined your channel recently and now watch a video every night, I must say these are fascinating retellings of historical events. I’ve really enjoyed learning about the British empires exploits from the Crimean war to the boar war, keep posting and thanks for all your hard work and endeavour 👏
Just bought a chaps, grandfather's coins he was paid for being part of the Boer War. I'm in Canada & he was Canadian. Owed him the respect of understanding. Much appreciated for your history lesson. I live near Kitchener Ontario.
Great summary , my great grandfather served in the Worcestershire Yeomanry in the Boer war and my home of Worcester has many links to that conflict and South Africa, so I always find this topic interesting. Thanks for posting!
A cracking yarn Chris, a story that fascinated me from childhood, my dear Dad took a job in SA, early 70's and I was sent to school near Jo'burg, on a school excursion we got off the bus to explore one of those Kitchener block houses, well i was hooked. Back home an elderly Boer woman sensing my interest gave me a book i can no longer recall the title, that seemed to ooze dust and khaki and the boer war has held fascination since. I hope to visit SA next year to see some of the sites mentioned in your vlog. huzzah for the history chap !! 'pip pip hooray '!!
My grandmother lost two siblings in the British concentration camps and never forgave the British for that. So you may consider my comments in that respect. Thank you for your presentation, it was very well made without the normal derisory or flagrant insults to the Boers that typifies most Anglo-Boer war documentaries. That is, right to the end where you started talking about black franchise. So here are a few comments. 1. White South Africans voted in 1992 to end apartheid which meant they gave black South Africans the vote. This was done willingly, so your statement saying "never" is thus outright wrong. 2. Reparations were not paid to the Boers who fought till the end (Bittereinders), rather it was paid to select joiners and hensopper (hands-uppers) only. South Africans managed to build themselves up financially without handouts. 3. Britain did not demand reparations because they took over the mines which they wanted in the first place and that gold and other minerals had paid for the war many times over. Yes, I realise SA got paid in taxes. 3. The Dutch language was allowed yes, but Boer children were mocked and given donkey ears for speaking their language in government schools. 4. Black tribes were recruited by the British and were allowed to round up Boer families in the veld. One can only imagine what happend to those unfortunate women and children. No wonder the Boers lost their motivation in the end. 5. Apartheid was not created by the Afrikaners. That dubious honour also belongs to the British, just like the concentration camps. The Boers just made apartheid law. Today there are many more "reverse-apartheid" laws in South Africa than anytime during apartheid, this time aimed at destroying whites financially and culturally with no one batting an eye.
Randomly found your channel, have been binge watching for the past few days. very informative and entertaining. I've learnt much about many forgotten wars and battles, many thanks.
I've watched the whole set of episodes now for a second and third time. Simply the "smoothest" history lessons. I've commented to you before, and I'll say it again. Fantastic narration, fantastic story, and fantastic classic approach to the art of Boer War history. I completely acclaim, you are the epitome of quality historical stories and scenes. Well done sir. I wish we were close by, for I would love to buy you a drink and enjoy your fabulous stories. Cheers my friend! 😊
I'm 75 and born & bred in South Africa. We used to sing songs about General De Wet at school: Wie is die dapper generaal ~ De Wet!! Wie stry so dapper in Transvaal ~ De Wet! Wie is dit wat die trots Brit, so telkens op sy hiele sit? De Wet De Wet De Wet De Wet....... I'm sure there are older Afrikaans-speaking people who will still remember this song ❤💙💙❤
Another great episode Chris. I really enjoy the information and especially your enthusiastic storytelling. Interesting and exciting at the same time, it draws the viewer in 100%.
Do tell mate what was so tragic în the British history at that time? Not exterminating enough children? I think you mean tragic for Boer history..right?
The British were just stealing the land from the Boers who had originally stolen it from the blacks. Lots of stealing going on in South Africa at the time from both sides in the war.
Superb historical analysis and narration of the 2nd British-Boer War. Appreciate the candor and frank insight into the geopolitical and horrendous consequences of this conflict between colonial powers. Of course, the great powers didn’t learn from the earlier Crimean War that preceded the Boer conflict, and the horrific world wars that’ll follow in the first half of the 20th century and thereafter. Now in the this new century, we are living through new wars in Ukraine, in Syria and other smaller conflicts-reminding us that human history despite its advances in science, rule of law, diplomacy and humanitarian morality, is and will always be plagued by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse-death, famine, war and conquest. I supposed, the lesson and challenge of history is keeping these “horsemen” at bay and not letting them overwhelm human existence. Really appreciate your channel content.
My great-great grandfather fought in this war in the mounted infantry. He joined up in 1900 aged about 19 or 20 and was involved in one mini battle that went on for seven hours before he was captured by the Boers. He was a prisoner for a while before he and some of his comrades were released and welcomed home. Afterwards he married and fathered three daughters and settled down to life as a shoe riveter. He was called up again as a reservist in 1914 as an 'Old Contemptible' in the BEF and briefly made Lance Corporal until a German prisoner of war escaped while he was guarding him. He was killed at the Somme during the German advance of 1918. We have one photograph of him in our family from when he was 10 years old but sadly nothing else. It's my big dream in life to find a picture of him because I'm sure that there's one out there somewhere.
@@TheHistoryChap Thank you! Glad you enjoyed my family story, finding a picture or enhancing & CG aging our family picture will be tricky but not impossible I'm sure 😊
Sympathy for your Great Great Grandfather. How much did true wealth did Britain lose with the sacrifice of such men in these two, unnecessary (in my humble opinion) wars? What could this man of such loyalty and commitment have gone on to achieve in his life. Treasure lost. Both my Grandfathers survived the Great War. My Paternal Grandfather was a regular army (Black Watch) and Old Contemptible and my Maternal Grandfather was shot through the chest in 1916 but survived.
@@presterjohn4123 Thank you for your kind words. I agree sort of in the sense that war in general is very wasteful and tragic, whether it's necessary or unnecessary. I'm glad that your grandfathers made it through the war though 🥲
Thanks for posting this. My Great Grand Father was the last President of the NZ Boer War Veterans Association when they wound up in the early 1970's. He served in the Colonial Light Horse and Bushmanland Borderers irregulars.
Sir thank once again for producing another gem concerning the Second Anglo-Boer War. During that conflict many Americans supported the Boer cause, and openly clamoring for war against England(Britain). I am relieved that the conflict ended when it did. Thank you Sir for sharing this brilliant video production.
Dear Sir we appreciated and are still appreciating the support given especially the moral and medical assistance America gave but-The American government and most of all President Mc Kinley refused to see a pre-arranged Afrikaner deputation in 1887 to mediate a peace conference, just like with the terrorist war and Angolan wars 1975 to 1990 against the communist world which is now affecting and will affect the 'Free World' severely in the NEAR future!
Thank you very much for the summary of the Bore War. Grandfather Singed up to fight in the said Bore War when he was around the age of 17. His father Constable John Blackstock managed to get his son to serve as a Grenadier Guard at Buckingham palace. Lucky for me!!!
I'm glad that you're not a chap who is intent on taking a cheap low blow at our Country, it's just a channel which accurately depicts history of the 19th and 20th Centuries..... well done mate!!!
Excellently done and researched . Luxembourg, where I am from also has many ties to South Africa .Have been there so many times , just love the country - thanks for bringing all its history back to life. Keep up the good work.
Great episode! I am South African and farm in the Free State...😃 I love history and find the perralels between the battles during the first part af the Boer War and the 1st WW (western front) interisting! Maybe you can look at that in one of your episodes! Anyway I like you chanel
I’ve just found this channel and I’m thoroughly enjoying it! Thank you! I used to compete in the Brickwoods Royal Navy Field Gun competition and I’d like to know more information about the Siege of Ladysmith of which the competition is in tribute to.
I am so glad that you have this on your list. As a former sailor who served in the Navy I have an avid interest in all aspects of naval history especially the landing of ships guns.
thanks for explaining a part of our history that we didn't learn about in our school, i started my education in 1959 up to 1970 and it was almost all about our glorious past, in fact i do remember once celebrating empire day. i thank my secondary school history teacher Geoff Barret for instilling in me the interest i still have in our historical past, both good or bad. i came here from your corporal jack jones video. thanks.
Thank you History Chap, this time period is my absolute favourite! I've got my fingers crossed for a Hlobane video or Ntombe Drift from the Anglo Zulu war🤞👌
@@TheHistoryChap Haha! That's great news, I'll be eagerly keeping an eye out although all your presentations are excellent. Keep it up and thanks for the reply 👍
As a great-grandson of Jan Smuts and an Anglophile, my compliments on a well researched and balanced Boer War summary. I have subscribed and look forward with anticipation to the videos to came. Thank you for an absorbing half-hour,
Very kind of you. Thanks for your support. You might also like to sign up for my free newsletter and history timeline at my website (www.thehistorychap.com)
I only vaguely remember him, he died when I was very young, but my great Grandfather served with the Argyles in the Boer War. I wish i could have talked with him about his war.
Great to see things like this, and so well done. Apparently, almost nothing is taught about the Boer Wars in South Africa now (not like when I grew up there!) and there's not a lot over here in the UK either. There were some programmes on British TV in 1999 (centenary of the start of the Second Boer War), but before and after that, nothing. And yet, it still informs so much of how South Africa and the adjacent countries interact and are, today. Keep it up, sir!
The Boer war history and battles are fascinating, and this channel does a great job of educating - thank you. I realise that this war, set in Victorian times, and distant South Africa seems romantic to many. For us however, the death in concentration camps of 13-15% of the Boer Republic's civilian population (mostly children), the rape and brutal treatment of our women and the scorched earth policy of burning farms and killing livestock was a war crime which Britain never acknowledged, much less apologised for. Most Boer descendants don't hold this dark history against living Brittons, but we can also never forget, also because of how it affected our people's destiny. I'm currently observing Britain being invaded by illegal immigrants and what those invaders are doing to British culture, woman and children and I wonder how these clear injustices against the weak and defenseless are again allowed by the British people.
I disagree with your last comment completely. As for was not forgetting, I hope that they can accept black Africans, not forgetting about oppression during apartheid.
@@TheHistoryChap So who was the instigators of apartheid? It also came from your beloved country. The puppet masters of old are still applying the same methods. I will never forget the british barbaric methods.
@@TheHistoryChapwhat you fail to mention is that had there not been such resentment from the Boers toward the British, with the inevitable rise of nationalism, the National party would not have come to power in the first place. They barely won against the opposition who were all for incorporating the Black population. The Nats came to power not so much because of race relations but rather because of nationalism caused by the war. The Nats were abhorrent but had become entrenched and for a long time was seen as the only option against the slew of sanctions imposed upon South Africa. However, by the early nineties, when white SA'ns had one of the highest living standards in the world as a result of Nat government policies AND infrastructure investment, we were given the choice to continue with Apartheid or embrace democracy. The 49% that lost the vote in the forties this time had the majority. That referendum was the first time I was allowed to vote. The rest is history, so to speak.
Kitchner becomes a war criminal and disgraces his entire career. It once again showed that the British were capable of despicable actions against native populations
Not just the natives, they killed their own people, in 1820 there were British settlers already. Killing more than 28000 women and children. They were barbaric.
Churchill said his father appeared to him in a dream denouncing Britain's aggression against the Boer republics. This was Churchill's euphemism for his personal opinion. Churchill, nevertheless, the war-dog that he was, relished the action. He was so impressed by the Boer "kommando" that he created an officer class in the British army, the Commander. The spot at Chievely, Natal, where he was captured by none other than Louis Botha, is marked with an obelisk. Worth a visit if you need to round out your bucket list.
As an American, I didn't know any of this stuff. I knew about the Boars and British fighting but not near this much detail. And the concentration camps... Great video. I have been watching a lot of your videos and have learned a lot of history that I didn't know about. Sudan, South Africa, India, Crimea, etc.
Another excellent job my friend oh, it is a sad fact of history that it tends to repeat itself over and over. As Hagel one fed the thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from it. A sad episode of the British Empire with the concentration camps involving the Boer population. A tragedy which has two to be repeated by the Germans and the Americans oh, we have a history to of concentration camps of which we are not proud truth. We however must acknowledge our history so that we are not doomed to repeat it but however given our current political climate I am not so sure anymore.
Great video, I agree with almost everything you said, but I think your statement at 25:00 is not fair. These territories were given to black people. They were called Bantustans, each tribe had one, many were bigger than European countries and in these territories they had self government. These Bantustans consisted of territory that was traditionally occupied by the tribes, with additional land gifted by the Boere. When Bantu people moved down from central Africa they settled along the north and east coast in the most fertile parts. This means that the Bantustans have the most fertile ground of all of SA. Platinum was discovered in the Bantustan of Bophuthatswana and the Boers never tried to take it. The most platinum rich deposits in the world still belong to the Royal Bafukeng Tribe. The Transvaal territory was bought from black people in the 1800's with thousands of cattle and these contracts still exist.
Yes, there is so much going on in that war in its different phases. The British should have learned so much more from that war with mistakes that were repeated a few years later in Flanders. Thank you for posting the video.
Excellent video as usual, Chris. The main gateway into St.Stephen's Green Park in Dublin is a monument to the Irish Regiments who served in S.Africa. The more anti British element in Dublin refer to it as, the Traitor's Gate. However, the Irish Regiments served with great valour and distinction.
It still amazes me that only 12 years after 1902 so many South Africans (including Afrikaaners) volunteered to fight on the British side in WW1. Their Memorial at Delville Wood on the Somme is a 'must see'.
Many Irish, including many who fought against the British, from what is now the Republic of Ireland came to Britain in WW2 to fight against Nazi Germany in spite of the poor treatment of their country over centuries under British control. The common reason is that they were opposed to oppression in any way.
Just as a matter of interest...General Sir George Pomeroy Colley was the elder brother of my great-grandmother. My own name (Colin) was derived from that family name over generations (my mother's second name was Colley). Family lore has it that one of my great-aunts perished on the Titanic disaster.🤷♂
Thank you for your balanced and objective interpretation of the South African War/2nd Boer War. I live within ten km of a memorial marking the site of one of the smaller concentration camps as discussed. You're very right, Afrikaners today still remember those days with bitterness and resentment! I also totally agree with the way you described the rise of the National Party, Apartheid and independence in 1961 as direct consequences of that war. Indeed, I often wonder what South Africa would've been like if it had never left the commonwealth!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. An interesting question about what South Africa and indeed the world might have been like if they haven’t left the Commonwealth in the 1960s.
As a Boer descendant and as one of the generation that voted to end Apartheid I often wonder what South Africa would have been like had the British not come here.
Great vid thanks, looking forward to future instalments. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Buller was nicknamed "Reverse" by his troops because of his inability to make decisions lol.
Davy, Buller was indeed nicknamed Reverse due to his backwards-forwards campaign in Natal. Think the next instalment will be starting at the beginning with the Jameson Raid. ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap
@@TheHistoryChap As usual with your high standards you bring history to life with these high quality brilliant documentaries. I think the foreign volunteers who served with the Boers deserve a segment to themselves in particular the Irish Brigade. The title of this unit is misleading because it was not exclusively Irish and numerically not a brigade. Obviously it had Irish,Irish-Americans and some Germans. It was commanded by Colonel John Blake an Irish-American who was a former US Calvaryman and veteran of the Indian wars including the campaign against Geronimo. His 2nd in command was Major John McBride an Irish nationalist who would later be executed in 1916 for taking part in the Easter Rebellion in Dublin. A lot of it's Irish members had worked in the South African mines and they put these demolition skills to great effect by blowing up bridges and railways during the guerilla phase of the conflict and slowing the British advance. They played a major role in providing a rearguard for the Boer withdrawal from Natal in 1900. The Boers affectionately referred to them as "The Wrecker Corp". Ironically it would sometimes find itself fighting against Irish regiments in the British Army. There is an excellent book about this unit titled "McBrides Brigade-Irish Commandos in the Anglo-Boer War" by Donal P. McCraken. After the war Colonel Blake wrote a memoir "A Westpointer With the Boers". I think it is difficult to obtain. The highest ranking foreigner killed with the Boers was a French officer who was a veteran of the French colonial wars and Franco-Prussian War. He had previously served with the French Foreign Legion. He was given full military honours by the British and interned in South Africa. When the armoured train that Winston Churchill was travelling in was ambushed by the Boers in November 1899 the soldiers providing the escort were from the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and Durham Light Infantry and some Navy personnel manning an artillery piece. Check out the movie "Young Winston" which depicts this event. I always find the Battle of Spion Kop so interesting due to the personalities that were there : Winston Churchill as a war correspondent for the "Morning Post",Gandhi as a stretcher bearer, the Boer General Louis Botha and future first PM of South Africa in 1910. Also Sir Charles Warren who was blamed for the high British casualties. This is not the first time history has been unkind to him. In British Army circles he was alway's referred to as "that damn policeman " due to the fact when he was Commissioner of Police in London in 1888 his department was blamed for poor and inept detective work during the infamous Jack the Ripper murders. Due to Lancashire regiments taking heavy casualties the stand in Anfield at Liverpool Football Club is known as the "Kop". Due to the bravery of Irish regiments a new Irish regiment was formed which was the Irish Guards in April 1900. There is a fantastic painting titled "My Brave Irish(Queen Victoria's words) which shows an Irish regiment storming a Boer position. It was painted by R.C. Woodville who had brought many famous scenes from Britains colonial wars to life. Once again the documentaries you provide are of sterling quality. Wishing you success in all your endeavours that you embark upon.
@@johnroche7541 “Credit where credit’s due.” 🤝 You’re very welcome, John… One of the things that I love about such excellent RUclips Channels as this one, is the wealth of fascinating & apposite commentary that is offered by its most appreciative & well informed followers. One can often learn almost as much from the Comments Section of any given video, as the very well researched & presented video itself provides… All too often, however… it’s an equally lamentable observation, that some of the best & most profitable Subscriber offerings - some of them gathered from many, often obscure & little known sources - & painstakingly written at some considerable length… regrettably, go almost completely or even *entirely* unacknowledged at times, with not so much as a single “upvote” of appreciation, let alone a simple, courteous, “Thank You” to the person who took the trouble to share his or her valuable knowledge & well informed insight on the subject… In that respect, I’m reminded somewhat of the famous lament uttered by the late, great Actor, Rutger Hauer - in his poignant portrayal of the dying “Replicant”, “Roy Batty” - as his short but incandescent life comes to an end at the conclusion of the Sci-Fi Movie Classic, “Blade Runner”: “I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die.” That’s really what erudite Channels like this one are all about (an amalgam of not just the video content itself, but also the *pooled* wealth of knowledge provided by those who take the trouble to comment on them - often providing obscure & little known ancestral anecdotes, for example - because they share a passionate interest in the subject at hand…). Indeed, that is what the telling & retelling of History **should always be** about: To painstakingly gather, sift, store & preserve - what would otherwise be forever lost & discarded along the way, during that relentless Forward March of Time “that waits for no Man…..” & upon which the temporal footsteps & achievements of our Ancestors are often blithely overwritten by our own clumsy footsteps, just as ours shall all soon be expunged by those who come after us… which - in the case of Today’s most Pig-ignorant, Historically revisionist, utterly selfish, irredeemably Narcissistic & aptly named “Post-Truth Generation” - will, ironically (in view of the overall thrust of my comments here…) NOT be a bad thing at all, except in so far as THE BIGGEST SCREW-UPS in History SHOULD have their unfathomably IMBECILIC beliefs & ideologies IMMORTALISED FOR ALL POSTERITY, in the hope that future Generations will not - even by accident - emulate one iota of their wilful ignorance, manifest insanity, breathtaking stupidity, & boundless degeneracy… 🤦🏻♂️ And since what started as a sober, intellectual commentary on the importance of preserving our History (& politely & courteously thanking & acknowledging those who assist us in doing so… 🤝) is in danger of turning into a further unrestrained rant concerning the insufferable Vandals, Luddites & “Safe Space” dwelling Troglodytes who make up what is, without a doubt, the DUMBEST Generation to have ever walked upon God’s Green Earth, I’ll simply end my comment here, John, by thanking you once again for your more restrained & invaluable contribution to this Comments Section… 😉 With Sincere Best Wishes ~ 🙋🏻♂️ LOUIS C.
Hi Chris, I think your videos are really fantastic. I really like your repeated showings of maps & personalities' photos, as this greatly helps with their retention in one's memory. I will put forth a video subject request! I really would be interested to learn more about the clash between Zulus and Boers mentioned in your overview. I had not realized this occured simultaneously during the 2nd Anglo-Boer War. Best wishes and thanks again, Alexander
Many thanks Alexander. I will add your request to my ever-growing list! Please do subscribe (& hit the bell icon when you do) so you don't miss my next video.
I think you missed one interesting fact. That the Liverpudlian soldiers at Spiro Kop went back to Liverpool and named the steep terrace at Anfield Football Ground "the Kop" due to the resemblance to the hill. IN fact many steep terraces got the name but it only stuck at Anfield as it was the biggest in the UK.
Ever travel to Loftus Rd? Offices and main stand are on the other side of QPR's stadium, on South Africa Rd. The away end is approached via Bloemfontein Rd. One of the stands is on Ellerslie Rd, which has a small street running off it called Bloemfontein Ave. The second closest pub to the ground was called General Smuts. Spion Kop...the Kop was adopted by many northern teams, though Birmingham City had one that ran down the side of the stadium. Most are gone because their stadiums got rebuilt or knocked down.
Interesting. I had a relative that fought in the Boer war, later sent to India, then France at the outbreak of WW1, where he was wounded. After recuperation he was sent to Mesopotamia where he was shot and killed by Ottoman Turks, outside Basra, a week after being promoted to Lieutenant . His medals are on display apparently, in the Black Watch museum. Whenever Basra was mentioned during the war in Iraq, my thoughts always drifted to him and his comrades. As for the policy of containment in Concentration camps. It should have been obvious that disease would break out. The British had already lost many troops to disease. Not our finest hour but I think it is a bit of a stretch to blame the British for Apartheid. That I think, is down to Boer policies, their thinking, as I understand it, is that they were the ones that fought for the country and therefore the only ones that deserved to have the vote. Britain would had to have kept a standing army there to ensure otherwise. This would have negated the agreement with the Boers as regards their self governance. The losses suffered by both sides hardened attitudes, in my opinion. Interesting also the famous men who fought in that war. Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, was to use his experience there to form the character of Holmes's friend and companion, Dr. Watson. Churchill's escape from the Boers did no harm to his political ambitions. Baden Powell went on to adapt his training for young boys in the Scouts and Kitchener was lost on board a destroyer, allegedly taking gold to Russia to keep them in WW1. His face, famously being used as a recruitment poster, during the war. These snippets of history, resound like echoes from the past, fascinating. Thanks for uploading.
Steven, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I certainly don't think the British were to blame for Apartheid, but I lived in SA and the concentration camp period is deeply seared into Afrikaaner souls. Best wishes ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap
Ridiculous to blame the British for apartheid, it was always a Boer policy. However, the British concentration camps, whilst nothing like as bad as their Nazi namesake, were nevertheless places of (deliberate?) neglect that led to many unnecessary deaths of Boer women and children, unforgiveable!
@@TheHistoryChap - I grew up in South Africa, a descendent of English settlers in 1852 (Grahamstown) and French Huegenot settlers in 1682. Without those concentration camps, the hardliners may never gained control in 1948, and apartheid may never been implemented. And my maternal grandfather would not have been arrested along with Madiba and gaoled for 15 years for his part in the ANC. I met him for the first time in 1980, when I was 14 years old.
I know it was only a movie but in Breaker Morant it was implied the executions were rubber stamped by the Australian government (or maybe someone else).
My 3X great-uncle served with the 2nd Btn, Seaforth Highlanders during the Boer War, and survived Magersfontein and the rest of Black Week. He was from Co. Mayo in Connacht, Ireland.
The actual term ‘concentration camp’ was invented by the Spanish (as campo de concentración or campo de reconcentración) in 1896 - three years before the 2nd Anglo-Boer War (1899 - 1904) started. It originated during The Cuban War of Independence (Guerra de Independencia cubana, 1895-98) was the last of three liberation wars that Cuba fought against Spain. In the end 225,000 ‘non combatant’ Cuban civilians died in just 18 months between 1896 and 1897. That is some number, nearly a quarter of a million Cubans.
Agreed! Also The Philippine-American War February 4, 1899, to July 2, 1902. American started instituting a pacification campaign that combined several counterinsurgency tactics. Insurgent fighters captured by U.S. forces were dealt with swiftly through deportation, imprisonment or execution, while tens of thousands of civilians were herded into “zones of protection” to protect them and prevent them from joining guerrilla bands. These “reconcentrados,” or concentration camps, were as reported in the Ledger at the time. One camp commandant referred to them as the “suburbs of hell.” So yes not a British idea, and not to be confuse with WW2 concentration camps which people continue to make the mistake. The aim in South Africa wasn’t systematic murder.
Great video Chris. Maybe you can do a video on the Irish who fought in this war. They fought on both sides. Today I come across Afrikaners with Irish surnames from that time whose forefathers fought for the Boers
In my Afrikaans High School we had o'Reilly, Kennedy & o'Neil chaps, our history teacher & later headmaster was Mr Edwards. In Primary School our PT teacher was Mr Killeen.
Thank you John. I am working on a video about Sir Hector MacDonald. In the meantime have you seen my latest talk on the Battle of Colenso?ruclips.net/video/OL9EVULR5bg/видео.html
A good summation of events and balanced perspective of the events. The lessons Britain learned in this grubby conflict may have saved the army in 1914. Sadly, today SA is a shadow of its former self, whatever racial group or nationality people are from. Domination of the different groups by an aggressive group of whatever background will eventually tear the country apart, I fear. I can't help wondering if after 1994 it would have been better to allow a 'natural ' division if the country to have taken place. The ANC would never have sanctioned that of course, but their abysmal rule cannot survive another quartet of a century. The problem may be hothead like Malena will fill the vacuum and all he'll will break loose.
Blacks are the original and natural inhabitants of South Africa and Africa . They are the natives . Also they are 80% of the population . So it is but natural that they should dominate South Africa . The Asians ( Chinese And Indians ) , Whites and the Coloureds are immigrants and they should know that and behave accordingly . Yes , the ANC is absolutely terrible but South Africa should never be divided . Because South Africa belongs to the Blacks first and foremost . Not the other immigrant groups like Asians or Whites or Coloureds .
@@bobfaam5215 Actually the Black Bantus who make up 80% of the population in South Africa are also not the original native inhabitants. The only truly first native inhabitants are the KhoiSan, who make up less than 1% of the population today.
Excellent, very informative and you packed a lot of facts into a short video. You also touched upon the appalling treatment of black Africans which is often ignored in other you tube videos. Thanks 🙏
In fact many blacks were recruited into the British army - many of these had interned families and needed the pittance of a salary to feed those interned. The Boers were so incensed by armed and uniformed blacks that they shot them on sight leading to further polarization between races in SA.
A crisp and informative overview of the conflict. However, like you, I thought that the term “concentration camp” first came from the Second Boer War. So, I was surprised to hear last week, on the “History Debunked” RUclips Channel, that the tactic was said to originate at least several decades earlier in Cuba. In fact, one correspondent argued that such a policy was used by the Romans, at the time of the Second Jewish Revolt against their Empire. Thus, perhaps in history there truly is “Nothing new under the Sun.”
Well done!!!! As a South African with ties to the Afrikanders and the U.K, I find your unbiased rendering of this video refreshing. You might try pronouncing the word uitlanders as"atelanders" while not perfect, it will sound much closer to the South African pronounciation. Looking forward to your next effort.
I hear so much about ww1 and ww2 , but not so much about the boer war and zulu war, so watching this and other videos on this channel is really refreshing and informative.
Another great video Chris, but there are many, many myths about this conflict which need to be corrected. I'll name just a few: Firstly, in October 1899 there were only around 8,000 British troops stationed in the Cape. Hardly an army capable of invading the Boer republics which had a combined size of Spain. And not a single British soldier was present in either republic at the start of the war - but the Boers had already moved their troops into Natal and the Cape. Kruger, Kommandos and Kak by Chris Ash tells a more accurate story. Oh...and when Kruger fled the country, he took much of his nations wealth with him!
Absolutely, Mike. Lots of people see it as a war of British aggression but technically it was one of Boer aggression. Kruger probably thought the best line of attack was defence but nevertheless... ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap
By the time the Boers delivered their ultimatum to Britain, the British were putting the final touches to their own ultimatum to the Boers. I agree with a lot of what Chris Ash writes, but there's a lot of spin in his writing too.
I'm a 75 year old South African living in New Zealand for 22 years. I have just recommended your history program to my children for them to listen to. You have done an excellent job of research.
The younger generation of South Africans know basically nothing of this history. I am very pleased you made a strong mention of the long forgotten, Concentration Camps.
I also well remember an elderly Boer Lady telling me how they had to bury their precious polished dining room table in the earth on their farm, to prevent the British from destroying it.
The Boer Lady who told this account to me is long ago passed on.
Thank you for your good work. Erich, now living in New Zealand.
Thank you for your support.
@@TheHistoryChap what I find absolutely fantastic is how all the commanders on both sides of the conflict got their information.
We're so connected these modern days. But how on earth were they so well informed.?
Even in the earlier Khartoum expedition.
The circle has come full circle in crimea.
So depressed that the English government simply cannot stop creating a new war. Along with the cousins in America.
Hang af wie jy vra... Ons jong Afrikaaners is wel bewus van ons geskudenis, en ons is trots Afrikaans
I found this documentary one of the best I have seen.
@@5BoB as an english south african, i hope the afrikaners carry on being proud about their history and not let it die out in south africa!
Thank you for a very well balanced exposition on the Anglo Boer war. I am the grandson of a British born grandfather who as a young boy was at the siege of Potchefstroom he fought fought for the Transvaal Republic captured while protecting Paul Kruger who was fleeing to Mozambique. After my G/f capture he was sent to Tuckers Island.
Thanks for watching my video & for taking the time to share your family story
At my Afrikaans High School, our headmaster was a Mr Edwards, thanks for sharing.
The glint of gold and the sparkle of the diamond in the eye brings out the blackness in the heart.
The Brits already had the diamonds.
Sounds like the seeds of greed
What nations wouldn't have ; except a load of Framers, who at the end , also went for the Gold.
Same the world over.
True!!! 😢😢
Baie dankie, ons waardeer die waarheid
Thank you for watching
Geheel mee eens
War never changes. Even the winners of the war loose. Thank you for a good to the point summary.
Thanks for your comments.
...and as a Brit now living in South Africa, I can honestly say that this is the best account of the Boer War that I have ever seen..well done!
Very kind of you. Thanks.
Proud of you sir
My family are from the Modderivier and Magersfontein region and somehow survived all of this - I used to walk thro' the battle areas near the blockhouses as a child and pick up Martini Henry bullet casings - I will go back there this year to visit my mother and father who are buried there - thank you.
Thanks for watching my video & for your interesting feedback.
Please tell me more about where you found the bullet casings
As an American I'd heard of the Boer War but as a child I couldn't find much about it. Thanks so much for your many episodes of this time in history, I now understand what this was all about. Much continued success with your work, I just finished watching the episode describing Thomas Jones' exploits in WW I. Thanks again
Very much an over view but I hope that it helped you.
Thomas Packenhams book will be of interest to you then .... find it " Boer War by Thomas Packenham " !!!
As someone who also studied the Boer War extensively and having read many books on the topic, I must commend you on your video.
Thanks for watching my video & your comment.
It lead to the end of "Splendid Isolation". Much of the World outside of the Empire supported the Boers. Fun fact, Winston Churchill was captured by Italian Mercenaries. He kept that quiet.
Love your fun fact.
And escaped 👍
Not that quiet film made about his life ,young winston tells about it and his escape.
@@TheHistoryChap why did Mandela get a statue in London and not Emily hob house.
Was she considered a traitor.?
Mandela was a terrorist and was lucky not to be executed as such
Thanks for another great history lesson! I’ve joined your channel recently and now watch a video every night, I must say these are fascinating retellings of historical events. I’ve really enjoyed learning about the British empires exploits from the Crimean war to the boar war, keep posting and thanks for all your hard work and endeavour 👏
Thank you for your support. Glad you are enjoying.
Just bought a chaps, grandfather's coins he was paid for being part of the Boer War. I'm in Canada & he was Canadian. Owed him the respect of understanding.
Much appreciated for your history lesson. I live near Kitchener Ontario.
Kitchener, the man would be another very interesting video
Great summary , my great grandfather served in the Worcestershire Yeomanry in the Boer war and my home of Worcester has many links to that conflict and South Africa, so I always find this topic interesting. Thanks for posting!
My pleasure. Did you spot the picture of the memorial outside Worcester Cathedral that I used near the end of the video?
A cracking yarn Chris, a story that fascinated me from childhood, my dear Dad took a job in SA, early 70's and I was sent to school near Jo'burg, on a school excursion we got off the bus to explore one of those Kitchener block houses, well i was hooked. Back home an elderly Boer woman sensing my interest gave me a book i can no longer recall the title, that seemed to ooze dust and khaki and the boer war has held fascination since. I hope to visit SA next year to see some of the sites mentioned in your vlog. huzzah for the history chap !! 'pip pip hooray '!!
Strangely enough my dad got a job in SA in the 70's too.
That's where my fascination with the Zulu War started. ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap
My grandmother lost two siblings in the British concentration camps and never forgave the British for that. So you may consider my comments in that respect.
Thank you for your presentation, it was very well made without the normal derisory or flagrant insults to the Boers that typifies most Anglo-Boer war documentaries. That is, right to the end where you started talking about black franchise. So here are a few comments.
1. White South Africans voted in 1992 to end apartheid which meant they gave black South Africans the vote. This was done willingly, so your statement saying "never" is thus outright wrong.
2. Reparations were not paid to the Boers who fought till the end (Bittereinders), rather it was paid to select joiners and hensopper (hands-uppers) only. South Africans managed to build themselves up financially without handouts.
3. Britain did not demand reparations because they took over the mines which they wanted in the first place and that gold and other minerals had paid for the war many times over. Yes, I realise SA got paid in taxes.
3. The Dutch language was allowed yes, but Boer children were mocked and given donkey ears for speaking their language in government schools.
4. Black tribes were recruited by the British and were allowed to round up Boer families in the veld. One can only imagine what happend to those unfortunate women and children. No wonder the Boers lost their motivation in the end.
5. Apartheid was not created by the Afrikaners. That dubious honour also belongs to the British, just like the concentration camps. The Boers just made apartheid law.
Today there are many more "reverse-apartheid" laws in South Africa than anytime during apartheid, this time aimed at destroying whites financially and culturally with no one batting an eye.
Thanks for the feedback
10 Englishmen to one Dutchman, well that's a reasonable comparison.
Randomly found your channel, have been binge watching for the past few days. very informative and entertaining. I've learnt much about many forgotten wars and battles, many thanks.
My pleasure. I’m glad that you are enjoying my different talks.
What a fascinating story. Clearly told. Clarity of the issues. High energy presentation. Thank you.
You're very welcome
I've watched the whole set of episodes now for a second and third time. Simply the "smoothest" history lessons. I've commented to you before, and I'll say it again. Fantastic narration, fantastic story, and fantastic classic approach to the art of Boer War history. I completely acclaim, you are the epitome of quality historical stories and scenes. Well done sir. I wish we were close by, for I would love to buy you a drink and enjoy your fabulous stories. Cheers my friend! 😊
Ed, thanks for your kind words.
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My Great, great, great Grandfather was Christiaan De Wet. The epitome of Boer toughness and resilience.
Thanks for watching my video & for sharing the identity of your great, great great Grandfather. Your family must have some very interesting stories.
I'm 75 and born & bred in South Africa. We used to sing songs about General De Wet at school:
Wie is die dapper generaal ~ De Wet!!
Wie stry so dapper in Transvaal ~ De Wet!
Wie is dit wat die trots Brit, so telkens op sy hiele sit?
De Wet De Wet De Wet De Wet.......
I'm sure there are older Afrikaans-speaking people who will still remember this song ❤💙💙❤
Another great episode Chris. I really enjoy the information and especially your enthusiastic storytelling. Interesting and exciting at the same time, it draws the viewer in 100%.
That’s very kind of you. Thanks for watching my videos. Plenty more coming in 2023
Looking forward to them Chris, well done!
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A black week for the British army, followed by a dark cloud for allowing so many deaths in those camps. Thanks for sharing.
Concentrations camps not Britains finest hour.
"allowing so many deaths" it was orchestrated genocide.
@@TheHistoryChap As well as the scorched earth policy. Disgraceful and barbaric to say the very least.
Very moving and tragic period in British history.
Qell done Chris for telling this story
Thank you for your kind words.
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Do tell mate what was so tragic în the British history at that time? Not exterminating enough children? I think you mean tragic for Boer history..right?
The British were just stealing the land from the Boers who had originally stolen it from the blacks. Lots of stealing going on in South Africa at the time from both sides in the war.
@@HellStr82 tragic that they didn't blow Winston churchills arse off .
@@HellStr82 Basically. The British killed an entire generation of Boer children.
Superb historical analysis and narration of the 2nd British-Boer War. Appreciate the candor and frank insight into the geopolitical and horrendous consequences of this conflict between colonial powers. Of course, the great powers didn’t learn from the earlier Crimean War that preceded the Boer conflict, and the horrific world wars that’ll follow in the first half of the 20th century and thereafter. Now in the this new century, we are living through new wars in Ukraine, in Syria and other smaller conflicts-reminding us that human history despite its advances in science, rule of law, diplomacy and humanitarian morality, is and will always be plagued by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse-death, famine, war and conquest. I supposed, the lesson and challenge of history is keeping these “horsemen” at bay and not letting them overwhelm human existence. Really appreciate your channel content.
I'm glad that you enjoyed this video and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Let's try to keep the Four Horsemen at bay.
My great-great grandfather fought in this war in the mounted infantry. He joined up in 1900 aged about 19 or 20 and was involved in one mini battle that went on for seven hours before he was captured by the Boers. He was a prisoner for a while before he and some of his comrades were released and welcomed home. Afterwards he married and fathered three daughters and settled down to life as a shoe riveter. He was called up again as a reservist in 1914 as an 'Old Contemptible' in the BEF and briefly made Lance Corporal until a German prisoner of war escaped while he was guarding him. He was killed at the Somme during the German advance of 1918. We have one photograph of him in our family from when he was 10 years old but sadly nothing else. It's my big dream in life to find a picture of him because I'm sure that there's one out there somewhere.
Wow what a fascinating family story. I wish you well in your quest for a phtograph.
@@TheHistoryChap Thank you! Glad you enjoyed my family story, finding a picture or enhancing & CG aging our family picture will be tricky but not impossible I'm sure 😊
Sympathy for your Great Great Grandfather. How much did true wealth did Britain lose with the sacrifice of such men in these two, unnecessary (in my humble opinion) wars?
What could this man of such loyalty and commitment have gone on to achieve in his life. Treasure lost.
Both my Grandfathers survived the Great War. My Paternal Grandfather was a regular army (Black Watch) and Old Contemptible and my Maternal Grandfather was shot through the chest in 1916 but survived.
@@presterjohn4123 Thank you for your kind words. I agree sort of in the sense that war in general is very wasteful and tragic, whether it's necessary or unnecessary. I'm glad that your grandfathers made it through the war though 🥲
I know the world will tell you otherwise but we Boers are actually loving people. Don't like conflict. Just some freedom.
Thanks for posting this. My Great Grand Father was the last President of the NZ Boer War Veterans Association when they wound up in the early 1970's. He served in the Colonial Light Horse and Bushmanland Borderers irregulars.
I bet he had some stories to tell.
Sir thank once again for producing another gem concerning the Second Anglo-Boer War. During that conflict many Americans supported the Boer cause, and openly clamoring for war against England(Britain). I am relieved that the conflict ended when it did. Thank you Sir for sharing this brilliant video production.
There were also Americans fighting on the British side.
@@TheHistoryChap indeed there were. Thank you so much for reminding me of that fact. Well done Sir! I truly appreciate the quick review.
@@fredazcarate4818 Winston churchill being one. His mother was american.
@@freneticness6927 that fact I already knew but I thank you all the same.
Dear Sir we appreciated and are still appreciating the support given especially the moral and medical assistance America gave but-The American government and most of all President Mc Kinley refused to see a pre-arranged Afrikaner deputation in 1887 to mediate a peace conference, just like with the terrorist war and Angolan wars 1975 to 1990 against the communist world which is now affecting and will affect the 'Free World' severely in the NEAR future!
Thank you very much for the summary of the Bore War.
Grandfather Singed up to fight in the said Bore War when he was around the age of 17.
His father Constable John Blackstock managed to get his son to serve as a Grenadier Guard at Buckingham palace. Lucky for me!!!
Thanks for sharing your family story.
I'm glad that you're not a chap who is intent on taking a cheap low blow at our Country, it's just a channel which accurately depicts history of the 19th and 20th Centuries..... well done mate!!!
Many thanks.
Excellently done and researched . Luxembourg, where I am from also has many ties to South Africa .Have been there so many times , just love the country - thanks for bringing all its history back to life. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching.
Great episode!
I am South African and farm in the Free State...😃
I love history and find the perralels between the battles during the first part af the Boer War and the 1st WW (western front) interisting!
Maybe you can look at that in one of your episodes!
Anyway I like you chanel
Glad you are enjoying. Trying to give a balanced view of events but accept that I am probably not totally neutral. Thanks for the video suggestion.
Another fantastic video Chris. Delivered in your usual expert, eloquent, style.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I’ve just found this channel and I’m thoroughly enjoying it! Thank you!
I used to compete in the Brickwoods Royal Navy Field Gun competition and I’d like to know more information about the Siege of Ladysmith of which the competition is in tribute to.
David, thanks for requesting. It is on my list (especially as my old father-in-law competed in the Field Gun competition at the Royal Tournament.
I am so glad that you have this on your list. As a former sailor who served in the Navy I have an avid interest in all aspects of naval history especially the landing of ships guns.
Thanks for bringing this forgotten war to my attention. Wonderful video - wish I could like it twice!
Very kind of you. Thanks.
thanks for explaining a part of our history that we didn't learn about in our school, i started my education in 1959 up to 1970 and it was almost all about our glorious past, in fact i do remember once celebrating empire day. i thank my secondary school history teacher Geoff Barret for instilling in me the interest i still have in our historical past, both good or bad. i came here from your corporal jack jones video. thanks.
Thanks for watching & I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
What ‘good’?
Thank you History Chap, this time period is my absolute favourite! I've got my fingers crossed for a Hlobane video or Ntombe Drift from the Anglo Zulu war🤞👌
Both are on my list...I have more ideas than time :)
@@TheHistoryChap Haha! That's great news, I'll be eagerly keeping an eye out although all your presentations are excellent. Keep it up and thanks for the reply 👍
Yes I’ve been waiting for this one
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As a great-grandson of Jan Smuts and an Anglophile, my compliments on a well researched and balanced Boer War summary. I have subscribed and look forward with anticipation to the videos to came. Thank you for an absorbing half-hour,
Very kind of you. Thanks for your support. You might also like to sign up for my free newsletter and history timeline at my website (www.thehistorychap.com)
@@TheHistoryChap Done!
A brutal war it really was a prelude of things to come. Good video Once again
Thanks for your kind words.
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I only vaguely remember him, he died when I was very young, but my great Grandfather served with the Argyles in the Boer War. I wish i could have talked with him about his war.
What stories he could have told.
Great video today thanks Chris and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your stuff on this
Thanks Cameron.
Working on the Jameson Raid as we speak.
Aiming to release early next week.
Great to see things like this, and so well done. Apparently, almost nothing is taught about the Boer Wars in South Africa now (not like when I grew up there!) and there's not a lot over here in the UK either. There were some programmes on British TV in 1999 (centenary of the start of the Second Boer War), but before and after that, nothing.
And yet, it still informs so much of how South Africa and the adjacent countries interact and are, today.
Keep it up, sir!
Thanks for watching my video & for your interesting feedback.
Wow. I knew almost nothing about this conflict so your narrative was really eye opening. Thanks for what you do, friend.
Thanks for watching. Glad you found it interesting.
Great history lesson, thank you very much my friend. May GOD bless you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for your support.
The Boer war history and battles are fascinating, and this channel does a great job of educating - thank you. I realise that this war, set in Victorian times, and distant South Africa seems romantic to many. For us however, the death in concentration camps of 13-15% of the Boer Republic's civilian population (mostly children), the rape and brutal treatment of our women and the scorched earth policy of burning farms and killing livestock was a war crime which Britain never acknowledged, much less apologised for. Most Boer descendants don't hold this dark history against living Brittons, but we can also never forget, also because of how it affected our people's destiny. I'm currently observing Britain being invaded by illegal immigrants and what those invaders are doing to British culture, woman and children and I wonder how these clear injustices against the weak and defenseless are again allowed by the British people.
I disagree with your last comment completely. As for was not forgetting, I hope that they can accept black Africans, not forgetting about oppression during apartheid.
What goes around comes around. Their past is quickly catching up.
@@TheHistoryChap So who was the instigators of apartheid? It also came from your beloved country. The puppet masters of old are still applying the same methods. I will never forget the british barbaric methods.
@@TheHistoryChapwhat you fail to mention is that had there not been such resentment from the Boers toward the British, with the inevitable rise of nationalism, the National party would not have come to power in the first place. They barely won against the opposition who were all for incorporating the Black population. The Nats came to power not so much because of race relations but rather because of nationalism caused by the war. The Nats were abhorrent but had become entrenched and for a long time was seen as the only option against the slew of sanctions imposed upon South Africa. However, by the early nineties, when white SA'ns had one of the highest living standards in the world as a result of Nat government policies AND infrastructure investment, we were given the choice to continue with Apartheid or embrace democracy. The 49% that lost the vote in the forties this time had the majority. That referendum was the first time I was allowed to vote. The rest is history, so to speak.
Kitchner becomes a war criminal and disgraces his entire career. It once again showed that the British were capable of despicable actions against native populations
Thanks for watching my video
Well.....today they control the Global Elite and do as they wish to achieve their agendas. What happened to Lady Diana?
Not just the natives, they killed their own people, in 1820 there were British settlers already. Killing more than 28000 women and children. They were barbaric.
Churchill said his father appeared to him in a dream denouncing Britain's aggression against the Boer republics. This was Churchill's euphemism for his personal opinion. Churchill, nevertheless, the war-dog that he was, relished the action. He was so impressed by the Boer "kommando" that he created an officer class in the British army, the Commander. The spot at Chievely, Natal, where he was captured by none other than Louis Botha, is marked with an obelisk. Worth a visit if you need to round out your bucket list.
James, thank you for taking the time to comment and to make a suggestion for my bucket list.
Chris
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As an American, I didn't know any of this stuff. I knew about the Boars and British fighting but not near this much detail. And the concentration camps...
Great video. I have been watching a lot of your videos and have learned a lot of history that I didn't know about. Sudan, South Africa, India, Crimea, etc.
Thanks for watching my videos & your kind comment.
Thoroughly enjoyed, thank you again work!!!!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching
Another excellent job my friend oh, it is a sad fact of history that it tends to repeat itself over and over. As Hagel one fed the thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from it. A sad episode of the British Empire with the concentration camps involving the Boer population. A tragedy which has two to be repeated by the Germans and the Americans oh, we have a history to of concentration camps of which we are not proud truth. We however must acknowledge our history so that we are not doomed to repeat it but however given our current political climate I am not so sure anymore.
Fascinating. Shared with several friends
Thank you, I am very grateful for your support.
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A very good and unprejudiced historical report. Brilliant summary of the Twede Feiheit Oorlog.
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed my video.
Great video, I agree with almost everything you said, but I think your statement at 25:00 is not fair. These territories were given to black people. They were called Bantustans, each tribe had one, many were bigger than European countries and in these territories they had self government. These Bantustans consisted of territory that was traditionally occupied by the tribes, with additional land gifted by the Boere. When Bantu people moved down from central Africa they settled along the north and east coast in the most fertile parts. This means that the Bantustans have the most fertile ground of all of SA. Platinum was discovered in the Bantustan of Bophuthatswana and the Boers never tried to take it. The most platinum rich deposits in the world still belong to the Royal Bafukeng Tribe. The Transvaal territory was bought from black people in the 1800's with thousands of cattle and these contracts still exist.
Good job 👍
Just watch “ Boer War “ yesterday
But with your ; Summary made me clear
Keep Up The Good Job 😁😃👍👍💪🏻💪🏻🙏🏻
Glad I was able to make things clearer. Thanks for watching.
Superb overview! Bravo! Many thanks for this!
My pleasure
Yes, there is so much going on in that war in its different phases. The British should have learned so much more from that war with mistakes that were repeated a few years later in Flanders. Thank you for posting the video.
My pleasure.
Excellent video as usual, Chris. The main gateway into St.Stephen's Green Park in Dublin is a monument to the Irish Regiments who served in S.Africa. The more anti British element in Dublin refer to it as, the Traitor's Gate. However, the Irish Regiments served with great valour and distinction.
Thanks for sharing that information, Rob.
Best wishes,
Chris
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Excellent video, my friend-thank you!!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
It still amazes me that only 12 years after 1902 so many South Africans (including Afrikaaners) volunteered to fight on the British side in WW1. Their Memorial at Delville Wood on the Somme is a 'must see'.
An incredible sacrifice that is rarely mentioned in Britain.
Many Irish, including many who fought against the British, from what is now the Republic of Ireland came to Britain in WW2 to fight against Nazi Germany in spite of the poor treatment of their country over centuries under British control. The common reason is that they were opposed to oppression in any way.
Brilliantly researched and presented.
Pronunciation Uitlander pronounced 8lander
Thank you for watching
The Boer War fascinates me. I cannot get enough!
Plenty more videos on my channel about battles in the Boer war
I shall explore your channel properly. 👍
Just as a matter of interest...General Sir George Pomeroy Colley was the elder brother of my great-grandmother. My own name (Colin) was derived from that family name over generations (my mother's second name was Colley). Family lore has it that one of my great-aunts perished on the Titanic disaster.🤷♂
Thanks for the great overview!
Thanks for watching my video & for your comment.
Well. That taught me a thing or two. Such an interesting history of that "war".
Glad you learnt a thing or two. Not sure many people know much about it.
...refreshingly honest representation of the Boer War...thank you for that!!!👌
Thanks for watching & your comment.
Thank you for your balanced and objective interpretation of the South African War/2nd Boer War. I live within ten km of a memorial marking the site of one of the smaller concentration camps as discussed. You're very right, Afrikaners today still remember those days with bitterness and resentment! I also totally agree with the way you described the rise of the National Party, Apartheid and independence in 1961 as direct consequences of that war. Indeed, I often wonder what South Africa would've been like if it had never left the commonwealth!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. An interesting question about what South Africa and indeed the world might have been like if they haven’t left the Commonwealth in the 1960s.
As a Boer descendant and as one of the generation that voted to end Apartheid I often wonder what South Africa would have been like had the British not come here.
Great vid thanks, looking forward to future instalments. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Buller was nicknamed "Reverse" by his troops because of his inability to make decisions lol.
Davy, Buller was indeed nicknamed Reverse due to his backwards-forwards campaign in Natal.
Think the next instalment will be starting at the beginning with the Jameson Raid.
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@@TheHistoryChap As usual with your high standards you bring history to life with these high quality brilliant documentaries. I think the foreign volunteers who served with the Boers deserve a segment to themselves in particular the Irish Brigade. The title of this unit is misleading because it was not exclusively Irish and numerically not a brigade. Obviously it had Irish,Irish-Americans and some Germans. It was commanded by Colonel John Blake an Irish-American who was a former US Calvaryman and veteran of the Indian wars including the campaign against Geronimo. His 2nd in command was Major John McBride an Irish nationalist who would later be executed in 1916 for taking part in the Easter Rebellion in Dublin. A lot of it's Irish members had worked in the South African mines and they put these demolition skills to great effect by blowing up bridges and railways during the guerilla phase of the conflict and slowing the British advance. They played a major role in providing a rearguard for the Boer withdrawal from Natal in 1900. The Boers affectionately referred to them as "The Wrecker Corp". Ironically it would sometimes find itself fighting against Irish regiments in the British Army. There is an excellent book about this unit titled "McBrides Brigade-Irish Commandos in the Anglo-Boer War" by Donal P. McCraken. After the war Colonel Blake wrote a memoir "A Westpointer With the Boers". I think it is difficult to obtain. The highest ranking foreigner killed with the Boers was a French officer who was a veteran of the French colonial wars and Franco-Prussian War. He had previously served with the French Foreign Legion. He was given full military honours by the British and interned in South Africa. When the armoured train that Winston Churchill was travelling in was ambushed by the Boers in November 1899 the soldiers providing the escort were from the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and Durham Light Infantry and some Navy personnel manning an artillery piece. Check out the movie "Young Winston" which depicts this event. I always find the Battle of Spion Kop so interesting due to the personalities that were there : Winston Churchill as a war correspondent for the "Morning Post",Gandhi as a stretcher bearer, the Boer General Louis Botha and future first PM of South Africa in 1910. Also Sir Charles Warren who was blamed for the high British casualties. This is not the first time history has been unkind to him. In British Army circles he was alway's referred to as "that damn policeman " due to the fact when he was Commissioner of Police in London in 1888 his department was blamed for poor and inept detective work during the infamous Jack the Ripper murders. Due to Lancashire regiments taking heavy casualties the stand in Anfield at Liverpool Football Club is known as the "Kop". Due to the bravery of Irish regiments a new Irish regiment was formed which was the Irish Guards in April 1900. There is a fantastic painting titled "My Brave Irish(Queen Victoria's words) which shows an Irish regiment storming a Boer position. It was painted by R.C. Woodville who had brought many famous scenes from Britains colonial wars to life. Once again the documentaries you provide are of sterling quality. Wishing you success in all your endeavours that you embark upon.
@@johnroche7541 What a wonderfully informative comment… Thank you for posting it, John; a wealth of fascinating historical detail there!
@@the5thmusketeer215 Thank you for taking the time to post a nice comment. Cheers.
@@johnroche7541 “Credit where credit’s due.” 🤝 You’re very welcome, John…
One of the things that I love about such excellent RUclips Channels as this one, is the wealth of fascinating & apposite commentary that is offered by its most appreciative & well informed followers. One can often learn almost as much from the Comments Section of any given video, as the very well researched & presented video itself provides… All too often, however… it’s an equally lamentable observation, that some of the best & most profitable Subscriber offerings - some of them gathered from many, often obscure & little known sources - & painstakingly written at some considerable length… regrettably, go almost completely or even *entirely* unacknowledged at times, with not so much as a single “upvote” of appreciation, let alone a simple, courteous, “Thank You” to the person who took the trouble to share his or her valuable knowledge & well informed insight on the subject…
In that respect, I’m reminded somewhat of the famous lament uttered by the late, great Actor, Rutger Hauer - in his poignant portrayal of the dying “Replicant”, “Roy Batty” - as his short but incandescent life comes to an end at the conclusion of the Sci-Fi Movie Classic, “Blade Runner”:
“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die.”
That’s really what erudite Channels like this one are all about (an amalgam of not just the video content itself, but also the *pooled* wealth of knowledge provided by those who take the trouble to comment on them - often providing obscure & little known ancestral anecdotes, for example - because they share a passionate interest in the subject at hand…). Indeed, that is what the telling & retelling of History **should always be** about: To painstakingly gather, sift, store & preserve - what would otherwise be forever lost & discarded along the way, during that relentless Forward March of Time “that waits for no Man…..” & upon which the temporal footsteps & achievements of our Ancestors are often blithely overwritten by our own clumsy footsteps, just as ours shall all soon be expunged by those who come after us… which - in the case of Today’s most Pig-ignorant, Historically revisionist, utterly selfish, irredeemably Narcissistic & aptly named “Post-Truth Generation” - will, ironically (in view of the overall thrust of my comments here…) NOT be a bad thing at all, except in so far as THE BIGGEST SCREW-UPS in History SHOULD have their unfathomably IMBECILIC beliefs & ideologies IMMORTALISED FOR ALL POSTERITY, in the hope that future Generations will not - even by accident - emulate one iota of their wilful ignorance, manifest insanity, breathtaking stupidity, & boundless degeneracy… 🤦🏻♂️
And since what started as a sober, intellectual commentary on the importance of preserving our History (& politely & courteously thanking & acknowledging those who assist us in doing so… 🤝) is in danger of turning into a further unrestrained rant concerning the insufferable Vandals, Luddites & “Safe Space” dwelling Troglodytes who make up what is, without a doubt, the DUMBEST Generation to have ever walked upon God’s Green Earth, I’ll simply end my comment here, John, by thanking you once again for your more restrained & invaluable contribution to this Comments Section… 😉 With Sincere Best Wishes ~ 🙋🏻♂️ LOUIS C.
Great summary! Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Hi Chris,
I think your videos are really fantastic. I really like your repeated showings of maps & personalities' photos, as this greatly helps with their retention in one's memory.
I will put forth a video subject request! I really would be interested to learn more about the clash between Zulus and Boers mentioned in your overview. I had not realized this occured simultaneously during the 2nd Anglo-Boer War.
Best wishes and thanks again,
Alexander
Many thanks Alexander.
I will add your request to my ever-growing list!
Please do subscribe (& hit the bell icon when you do) so you don't miss my next video.
Thank you so much for the nice explanation
Glad you found it helpful
I think you missed one interesting fact. That the Liverpudlian soldiers at Spiro Kop went back to Liverpool and named the steep terrace at Anfield Football Ground "the Kop" due to the resemblance to the hill. IN fact many steep terraces got the name but it only stuck at Anfield as it was the biggest in the UK.
Thanks for sharing.
Ever travel to Loftus Rd? Offices and main stand are on the other side of QPR's stadium, on South Africa Rd. The away end is approached via Bloemfontein Rd. One of the stands is on Ellerslie Rd, which has a small street running off it called Bloemfontein Ave. The second closest pub to the ground was called General Smuts.
Spion Kop...the Kop was adopted by many northern teams, though Birmingham City had one that ran down the side of the stadium. Most are gone because their stadiums got rebuilt or knocked down.
@@TheBostonR Thanks, very intersting. I did know about two, but not others in such close proximity.
The correct spelling is actually "Spioenkop" (spioen = spy & kop = head or rocky isolated roundish mountain) basically "Spy mountain"
There is a Mount Baden-Powell named after the man in the San Gabriel mountains north of Los Angeles, where I live. 9,400' elevation, I've climbed it!
Nice one!
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Brilliant Chris, my grandfather fought in the Boar war with the Lincoln’s at the relief of Ladysmith.
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Interesting. I had a relative that fought in the Boer war, later sent to India, then France at the outbreak of WW1, where he was wounded. After recuperation he was sent to Mesopotamia where he was shot and killed by Ottoman Turks, outside Basra, a week after being promoted to Lieutenant .
His medals are on display apparently, in the Black Watch museum.
Whenever Basra was mentioned during the war in Iraq, my thoughts always drifted to him and his comrades.
As for the policy of containment in Concentration camps. It should have been obvious that disease would break out. The British had already lost many troops to disease.
Not our finest hour but I think it is a bit of a stretch to blame the British for Apartheid.
That I think, is down to Boer policies, their thinking, as I understand it, is that they were the ones that fought for the country and therefore the only ones that deserved to have the vote.
Britain would had to have kept a standing army there to ensure otherwise. This would have negated the agreement with the Boers as regards their self governance.
The losses suffered by both sides hardened attitudes, in my opinion.
Interesting also the famous men who fought in that war. Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, was to use his experience there to form the character of Holmes's friend and companion, Dr. Watson.
Churchill's escape from the Boers did no harm to his political ambitions.
Baden Powell went on to adapt his training for young boys in the Scouts and Kitchener was lost on board a destroyer, allegedly taking gold to Russia to keep them in WW1. His face, famously being used as a recruitment poster, during the war.
These snippets of history, resound like echoes from the past, fascinating. Thanks for uploading.
Steven, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I certainly don't think the British were to blame for Apartheid, but I lived in SA and the concentration camp period is deeply seared into Afrikaaner souls.
Best wishes
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Ridiculous to blame the British for apartheid, it was always a Boer policy. However, the British concentration camps, whilst nothing like as bad as their Nazi namesake, were nevertheless places of (deliberate?) neglect that led to many unnecessary deaths of Boer women and children, unforgiveable!
For someone who loves and studies world history and is now deeply studying the Boer war, i thank you for sharing this personal insight. Fascinating👍
@@TheHistoryChap - I grew up in South Africa, a descendent of English settlers in 1852 (Grahamstown) and French Huegenot settlers in 1682. Without those concentration camps, the hardliners may never gained control in 1948, and apartheid may never been implemented. And my maternal grandfather would not have been arrested along with Madiba and gaoled for 15 years for his part in the ANC. I met him for the first time in 1980, when I was 14 years old.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 👋 your videos are so informative 👍
Glad you like them and thanks for your kind comment.
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I know it was only a movie but in Breaker Morant it was implied the executions were rubber stamped by the Australian government (or maybe someone else).
My 3X great-uncle served with the 2nd Btn, Seaforth Highlanders during the Boer War, and survived Magersfontein and the rest of Black Week. He was from Co. Mayo in Connacht, Ireland.
Thanks for watching my video & for sharing your family story.
Thanks for all your hardwork creating this awesome video Chris 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant video mate amazing for my A level modern history revision 👍
I'm glad I was able to be of help.
Good narration. Good images, map.
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed my video, thanks for watching.
The actual term ‘concentration camp’ was invented by the Spanish (as campo de concentración or campo de reconcentración) in 1896 - three years before the 2nd Anglo-Boer War (1899 - 1904) started. It originated during The Cuban War of Independence (Guerra de Independencia cubana, 1895-98) was the last of three liberation wars that Cuba fought against Spain. In the end 225,000 ‘non combatant’ Cuban civilians died in just 18 months between 1896 and 1897. That is some number, nearly a quarter of a million Cubans.
Another forgotten bit of history...not least because more people want to knock the British Empire than the Spanish.
Agreed! Also The Philippine-American War February 4, 1899, to July 2, 1902. American started instituting a pacification campaign that combined several counterinsurgency tactics. Insurgent fighters captured by U.S. forces were dealt with swiftly through deportation, imprisonment or execution, while tens of thousands of civilians were herded into “zones of protection” to protect them and prevent them from joining guerrilla bands. These “reconcentrados,” or concentration camps, were as reported in the Ledger at the time. One camp commandant referred to them as the “suburbs of hell.” So yes not a British idea, and not to be confuse with WW2 concentration camps which people continue to make the mistake. The aim in South Africa wasn’t systematic murder.
Yes. Very good. Educational and very exciting. I am never disappointed.
Very kind of you.
Thank you, this is a great summary..
Thanks. Video about the very first battle - Talana Hill - being released today (Friday)
That compensation was never paid to the Boers by Briitain.
Really? Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Great video Chris. Maybe you can do a video on the Irish who fought in this war. They fought on both sides. Today I come across Afrikaners with Irish surnames from that time whose forefathers fought for the Boers
I mention some of them in my video about who captured Winston Churchill.
In my Afrikaans High School we had o'Reilly, Kennedy & o'Neil chaps, our history teacher & later headmaster was Mr Edwards. In Primary School our PT teacher was Mr Killeen.
That was very interesting thank you again
Glad you enjoyed my video, thanks
Outstanding history lesson. Thank you.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Always brilliant and INFORMATIVE: Ex Scots Greys officer.
Thank you John.
I am working on a video about Sir Hector MacDonald.
In the meantime have you seen my latest talk on the Battle of Colenso?ruclips.net/video/OL9EVULR5bg/видео.html
A good summation of events and balanced perspective of the events. The lessons Britain learned in this grubby conflict may have saved the army in 1914. Sadly, today SA is a shadow of its former self, whatever racial group or nationality people are from. Domination of the different groups by an aggressive group of whatever background will eventually tear the country apart, I fear. I can't help wondering if after 1994 it would have been better to allow a 'natural ' division if the country to have taken place. The ANC would never have sanctioned that of course, but their abysmal rule cannot survive another quartet of a century. The problem may be hothead like Malena will fill the vacuum and all he'll will break loose.
Hi John,
Glad you enjoyed my video.
You've raised a lot of good and sad points.
Chris
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Blacks are the original and natural inhabitants of South Africa and Africa . They are the natives .
Also they are 80% of the population .
So it is but natural that they should dominate South Africa .
The Asians ( Chinese And Indians ) , Whites and the Coloureds are immigrants and they should know that and behave accordingly .
Yes , the ANC is absolutely terrible but South Africa should never be divided .
Because South Africa belongs to the Blacks first and foremost .
Not the other immigrant groups like Asians or Whites or Coloureds .
@@bobfaam5215 Actually the Black Bantus who make up 80% of the population in South Africa are also not the original native inhabitants. The only truly first native inhabitants are the KhoiSan, who make up less than 1% of the population today.
@@bobfaam5215 The blacks in SA today arrived approximately the same time as whites from to the north of SA.
Excellent, very informative and you packed a lot of facts into a short video. You also touched upon the appalling treatment of black Africans which is often ignored in other you tube videos. Thanks 🙏
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In fact many blacks were recruited into the British army - many of these had interned families and needed the pittance of a salary to feed those interned.
The Boers were so incensed by armed and uniformed blacks that they shot them on sight leading to further polarization between races in SA.
A crisp and informative overview of the conflict. However, like you, I thought that the term “concentration camp” first came from the Second Boer War. So, I was surprised to hear last week, on the “History Debunked” RUclips Channel, that the tactic was said to originate at least several decades earlier in Cuba. In fact, one correspondent argued that such a policy was used by the Romans, at the time of the Second Jewish Revolt against their Empire. Thus, perhaps in history there truly is “Nothing new under the Sun.”
George, you are right about Cuba, but the term was first used in the House of Commons.
@@TheHistoryChap Thanks for the clarification.
great programme... send Dan Snow a copy to show him how history is done. Great prog thumbs up
Very kind of you.
Thank you so much...❤
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Excellent channel, have just found it.
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Well done!!!! As a South African with ties to the Afrikanders and the U.K, I find your unbiased rendering of this video refreshing. You might try pronouncing the word uitlanders as"atelanders" while not perfect, it will sound much closer to the South African pronounciation. Looking forward to your next effort.
Lionel, thanks for your kind words.
I hear so much about ww1 and ww2 , but not so much about the boer war and zulu war, so watching this and other videos on this channel is really refreshing and informative.
Glad you are enjoying. Plenty more to come.
What ever else you do, please do a video about the Lovat Scouts and their impact in the Boer War.
Thanks for the suggestion, Tim.
Check out my latest video about the Jameson Raid, 4 years before this war
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Another great video Chris, but there are many, many myths about this conflict which need to be corrected. I'll name just a few: Firstly, in October 1899 there were only around 8,000 British troops stationed in the Cape. Hardly an army capable of invading the Boer republics which had a combined size of Spain. And not a single British soldier was present in either republic at the start of the war - but the Boers had already moved their troops into Natal and the Cape. Kruger, Kommandos and Kak by Chris Ash tells a more accurate story. Oh...and when Kruger fled the country, he took much of his nations wealth with him!
Absolutely, Mike.
Lots of people see it as a war of British aggression but technically it was one of Boer aggression.
Kruger probably thought the best line of attack was defence but nevertheless...
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By the time the Boers delivered their ultimatum to Britain, the British were putting the final touches to their own ultimatum to the Boers. I agree with a lot of what Chris Ash writes, but there's a lot of spin in his writing too.
Great stuff 👍
Thank you.
Excellent video
Brilliant summary
Very kind of you, thanks.
Well Done. Cheers.😊
My pleasure.
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The animosity caused by the war still lingers to this day.
Thanks for watching my video & your comment.
As always fascinating episode 👍🏻 about a sad part of British and South African history.
Having lived in South Africa, I can see the war from both sides . ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap
@@TheHistoryChap that must of been eye opening for you living in South Africa, thank you again loving your history channel 💙