Whatever I do... I keep going back here for years trying my best not to leave a mark... It's been more than 10 years since I first heard the Chronicle Key and I still keep going back here for some reasons...
how about other hymmnos, from Ar Tonelico 1-3 and Ar nosurge, EXA_PICO? Like Metafalica, Replica, Linca, Implanta, ra-ciel reincarnation from Ar nosurge, QuelI->EX[cez]->{kranz}; from PICO, Waterway ~Mio~ from Ar tonelico II, and many others?
I had a manic period over a few days about 11 years ago downloading all the Ar Tonelico OST I could find. Can't remember where I got them, but I think the site might have gone down some time afterwards. Still, I'd like to think this is the sort of ost that is good enough to stick around with various reuploads in various places.
this is so heart breaking.. especially when I finally understood what the lyrics meant. OMG I got goosebumps.. Misha's my favorite reyvateil, and her chronicle key is awesome
It is pretty amazing how much world-building went into those games. To the point that every song is meaningful and tells a story about that world and it's characters.
It's even more impressive than that, actually. Extract songs being nothing but "fixed feelings", each character's _interpretation_ of them gives information about how they perceive the world and how they relate to the feelings in question. This is especially apparent in the two versions of the Purger (especially with Aurica's and the parallels made between the "Diasee" that is Mule, and Aurica herself), but even though we do not know of any other version of Chronicle Key, each of them was just as unique. The key feeling of Chronicle Key is compassion ; that of Lune, who wished for Mule to be at peace. But in Misha's eyes, this compassion is manifested in another light ; why, she wonders, does power fall on those who do not desire it - as it befell her to sing with no end, when all she wanted was to be free ? And so, without it even being a conscious process, these are the lyrics that are formed as she interprets the feelings of the song. I can only agree with you. Ar Tonelico's world building is nothing short of spectacular.
@@blara2401 There is a doujin/fanwork singer group called Stellatram that wove quite a lyrically and melodically phenomenal rendition of Lune's (aka, the original) Chronicle Key, with her poignant and sacrificial empathy for Mule embodied perfectly. I always listen to that and Misha's Chronicle Key back-to-back and enjoy the nuances in difference and conflicting feelings that result.
I know right. To be honest PS2 era have many masterpiece game. They're so great that I have a hard time seperating myself from it. Nowadays, the graphic is marvelous, but the story plot? Not so much. I miss PS2 era. Many game I miss playing because my PS2 got broke and I had to further my study at that time. I want to play artonelico again. I only got to play 1 time only.
Ar tonelico was one of the reasons I decided to pursue linguistics...that and some history clases. I fell in love with such a beautifully rich and well constructed language whose roots lie in such a condensed yet contextually adaptable framework, this is especially true with AR2's New Testament of Pastalie script which, while harsher on the ears than Standard Note, offers much more in terms of expressive flexibility to play and build from. Admittedly, Standard Note just sounds better when sung due to the language base it's drawn from, and the local japanese talent gives it a unique ethnic flair that leaves something both eerily close to home yet not. Its true brilliance, whichever script you prefer, lies in the basic syntax and grammar which makes the language viable as it CAN be translated, appended, and expanded on just as with any other "real" language. The trick is momentum of use and proliferation. Abstract concepts only gain a state of conceptual objectivity if and when they become a part of the larger surrounding sociocultural framework and transcends it by becoming embedded with a near subconscious perceptual schema...in short, when something becomes less an "idea" and more a state of "don't think, feel". That's how best I can articulate the concept anyway...
You sound like my english teacher. I'm doing english language for year 12, which focuses on linguistics and the analysis of language. Its great of course but i hate using all the metalanguage because then my sentences barely make sense and sound like jargon riddled gibberish therefore i don't use it resulting in not so great test scores, haha
So technically this is Misha's song, because when someone downloads a Hymn Crystal, they get their own song out of it, as different people interpret it differently.
At 1:27, the last phrase sung in a octave, felt so heavy. It's almost like after all the conflict, Mir was abruptly put to deep coma. It's so powerful and matches the lyrics so well that it almost brought me to tears.
This is the section at which the song begins when it is heard for the first time during Aurica's route (right as the Linker took effect and Mule successfully entered Aurica's mind with nothing left to stop her). So in effect, this is exactly what happens in-game.
Its 2021 now, i still remember the shock i felt when i learned that misha has to sang this her entire life. When lyner promised to save her even when she didnt replied she heard him, its also when i dedicated to choose her path no matter what 😂😂
The power to end any dispute. The power to spread peace and destroy hate. The power to unify the living regardless of their past. For the sake of this power, there is a single sacrifice. Exec_Chronicle=Key/., the hymn that is the most human, the hymn that anyone can relate to and come to understand.
This Hymn has the power that can soothe all those who are in pain... But to keep peace, a maiden must sacrifice herself. But she does this in order for the people to live on...
@@pupprinateacup660 For me this one was almost painfully sad. On the one hand you have someone who must sacrifice themselves and it isn't even necessarily willingly (it has been a while since I played the game, but if I recall it was pretty much a "you're born into it" position.) On the other hand, you have them doing this to keep Mir from awakening again, which is also cruel in itself as all Mir truly ever needed was to just not be treated so horribly and used by people.
@@xaldreca3403 I couldn't give you an exact answer there. Mir was undoubtedly quite powerful, but in that state surely not so much. All I can say is that despite all the deaths that happened before they couldn't bring themselves to kill her. It might also be partially in recognition of the guilt for having done all that to her in the first place.
URRRRRRGH BEAUTIFUL VOICE FROM AN EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL REYVATEIL!!! ...seriously, Misha's character design is pretty good. Her mini kimono looking outfit is funky.
After paying attention to the lyrics, I realized that this song pretty much give away that Mir doesn't wan't to fight, that she only wish for peace. I've never noticed that. 😢
I first heard about this game while surfing through wikipedia. This single video has now forced me to search ardently for this game and to subscribe :D Hope I find a place to get this game.
this is the song that Misha had to sing over and over in order to keep Mir sealed inside cresent chronicle, right? I swear I almost cried when I played for the first time.. #cmiiw
@@azzamilhamzaidan1502 -and I feel kind of bad for actually liking this song enough that I searched for it and probably listened to it at least 20 times in a row not long after finishing the game.
***** Well in contest it's cheerful after all, or it's what it's supposed to be for Mir: rest in the tower for the sake of humans and reyvateils peace (at least it's Shurelia's opinion)
+stef96ify Which is not the case. The song was constructed from the feelings of pity and sadness the first Star Singer had, and for Shurelia it was the last resort they had for Mir to not destroy Sol Ciel. Additionally, the lyrics and the story they contain (a girl cursed with a great power that ends up losing her beloved due to a mad king that ultimately also kills her) don't reflect any sort of happiness.
***** Well you've got a point. In fact I felt really sorry for Mir when in the middle of the story I learned the truth about her past, so Chronicle Key wasn't really of any help to tranquilize her...
+stef96ify The way I see it is that she is singing "a lullaby devoted to you". Parts of it feels soothing and calming like a lullaby, while the rest is full of sorrow and struggles. Maybe you felt the same. :)
Actually, Tsuboy has collaborated quite a bit with all of the main singers from the series, as he was in charge of playing the violin in several of their songs.
wow its been so long and this song is still good. What do i find weird is the game portrays she would be singing forever but eventually she will be retired after 20 or 30 years before another clone is made and she also has like 150 year lifespan so nothing to cry about to much.
Indeed. Her Cosmosphere also shows she's acting like a drama queen so Lyner pities her, so she's exaggerating the situation. Sure, 30 years singing nonstop sucks, but it's not her whole life as she says.
There is another possibility that is lore-unfriendly but rather likely. Gust could have just retconned this. Likely, originally they meant star singers to sing for their entire life, but later it was found self-inconsistent. If star singer were to sing until death and only then new star singer is to take her place, then there could be a gap between them because even for betas it is not easy to precisely predict lifespan, and if gap is allowed, then Misha's absence is not a big deal, it would be okay to act as if she have died and prepare a replacement early. So, Gust had to come up with the idea of 20-30 years of singing to explain both why there is no replacement yet (as it is to early for Misha to retire) and why it is not okay to just allow the gap and prepare a replacement. Also, even considering 20-30 years of duty, it is too long for Lyner, even if alive he would no longer be young at that time. However, Misha's motivation had to be explained in a different way in this case, so I tend to believe when cosmosphere was written, Gust considered singing Chronicke Key to be life-long duty.
@@pavelkolmakov8278 Except that it's easy to predict lifespans for Betas because they are designed to live for exactly 150 years, no ifs or buts to it. The only exception is if the Beta is physically annihilated or if their telomere suffers degradation due to extreme overexertion due to stuff like EXEC_FLIP-type songs, none of which exist in AT1, and Chronicle Key's spectrum and energy demands are among the lowest in the table for existing Hymmnos Extracts, so a Star Singer wouldn't be overexerting herself in any way singing it. There's also the problem that the same contradiction between Misha's motivations and what the lore actually states is still present in the Flash Cosmosphere, and that was written after it was revealed that Star Singers only have to sing for 30 years. I'll also add one more thing: if Star Singers actually sang themselves to death like Misha says, there would be no Betas in Platina to teach her the duties she has to uphold, and it has been stated that Misha actually had previous Star Singers to teach her.
@@aquagondrag The question is whether all these lore even existed when AT1 plot was in development. I have a strong feeling it was not and instead lore was gradually expanded and deepened game-to-game not only for players/readers but for the authors themselves. This is quite okay if this is what happened, but small contradictions do appear. In the flash cosmosphere Gust likely had to follow the original way to avoid bringing even more inconsistency. As a potential teacher (if a teacher is even needed) Platina always has Shurelia. One more reason I believe most part of this lore on betas and reivateils in general was not in place when plot of AT1 was in development is that Shurelia is not even surprised if Aurica sings EXEC_PAJA, nor does she warns Lyner of possible complications if we assume she knew already and, thus, not surprised. Of all the people in the first tower she must know best that it is something exceptional for 3rd generation reivateil to do it. In AT2 even Shun immediately recognizes Jakuri as "not a common 3rd generation" when she is revealed to be able to get Despedia; being admin, Shurelia must know these limitations even better. Anyway, my impression is that all these deep lore simply did not exist when AT1 was developed, thus the controversies. I might or might not be right about it (or might be partially right).
I've fall in love with Hymmnos since I listened this song… I'm also studying it. It is really beautiful but sometimes I cannot tell the difference betweem English and Hymmnos because some words of the are similar such as 'beautiful' and 'bautiful'，'day' and 'dyya'…the most interesting is'was'!Sometimes I make mistakes when I'm having an exam because of'was'!How sad it is:(
Its 2024 and im still coming back here ❤
hallo 😊😊
Same
🗿❤
Hi
💯
2024 still banging
2021, still listen to this marvellous piece of art.
Same 🧡🧡
Same
Same
yes
Same
2023 you guys can keep going?
Ar Tonelico is eternal!
Ar Tonelico is eternal!
Hahaha still playing the game
Yup, we are still here.
Yup
As Misha kept on singing, without rest, for years on end, so shall we keep on listening to her song, for years and years to come.
Whatever I do... I keep going back here for years trying my best not to leave a mark... It's been more than 10 years since I first heard the Chronicle Key and I still keep going back here for some reasons...
@@data7226 what happened to you?
@@data7226 weird, supposed to tag @altair akbar
Man is just a simple creatures. Give them chronicle key and they'll gonna happy about it.
@@Rick-hy6vh hi fellow man
2022, and I still think this is the best hymmnos and it make Misha the best girl in AT1
how about other hymmnos, from Ar Tonelico 1-3 and Ar nosurge, EXA_PICO? Like Metafalica, Replica, Linca, Implanta, ra-ciel reincarnation from Ar nosurge, QuelI->EX[cez]->{kranz}; from PICO, Waterway ~Mio~ from Ar tonelico II, and many others?
Factual information.
@@Voitan 8
Still listening to this and still getting goosebumps
There's also Lyune's version from a fan album that's just as good in its own right. It's more akin to a lullaby.
Even moreso knowing that Misha had to sing it over & over to keep Final Boss (Mir) sealed.
13 years... And i still come back to hear this.
No matter how many years pass, this song will always be legendary. I love Ar Tonelico!
I’m begging you to protect these videos at all costs. Finding this OST is impossible anywhere else, forget trying to find CDs.
Pretty sure you can still find them on certain t0rrent sites
I had a manic period over a few days about 11 years ago downloading all the Ar Tonelico OST I could find. Can't remember where I got them, but I think the site might have gone down some time afterwards. Still, I'd like to think this is the sort of ost that is good enough to stick around with various reuploads in various places.
@@takatamiyagawa5688 Hi! Would you mind sharing those files with me? Are they on an online drive? I'm actually afraid of the same thing.
ive never played this game or whatever it is but the music is beautiful
I highly recommemend it. You'll got the whole songs for each disc.
Inainis it’s addicting
The song is from are tonelico 1 witch is pretty expensive for a ps2 game and the second game is also.
@@azurekite3870 limited prints do that sadly. :(
@@VampireBatLord yea,sadly too that i forgot and is really pricey like the 4 first .hack games also of that time.
I think it's not an exaggeration to say that Ar Tonelico is the reason I like orchestra and classical more than pop songs.
nope, Ar Tonelico's Hymnoss Concerts are really something else
this is so heart breaking.. especially when I finally understood what the lyrics meant. OMG I got goosebumps.. Misha's my favorite reyvateil, and her chronicle key is awesome
agreed, but you also need to check some of the lyrics, it's a plea to Mir so she lets go of her hatred once and for all.
It is pretty amazing how much world-building went into those games. To the point that every song is meaningful and tells a story about that world and it's characters.
It's even more impressive than that, actually. Extract songs being nothing but "fixed feelings", each character's _interpretation_ of them gives information about how they perceive the world and how they relate to the feelings in question. This is especially apparent in the two versions of the Purger (especially with Aurica's and the parallels made between the "Diasee" that is Mule, and Aurica herself), but even though we do not know of any other version of Chronicle Key, each of them was just as unique.
The key feeling of Chronicle Key is compassion ; that of Lune, who wished for Mule to be at peace. But in Misha's eyes, this compassion is manifested in another light ; why, she wonders, does power fall on those who do not desire it - as it befell her to sing with no end, when all she wanted was to be free ? And so, without it even being a conscious process, these are the lyrics that are formed as she interprets the feelings of the song.
I can only agree with you. Ar Tonelico's world building is nothing short of spectacular.
@@blara2401 There is a doujin/fanwork singer group called Stellatram that wove quite a lyrically and melodically phenomenal rendition of Lune's (aka, the original) Chronicle Key, with her poignant and sacrificial empathy for Mule embodied perfectly. I always listen to that and Misha's Chronicle Key back-to-back and enjoy the nuances in difference and conflicting feelings that result.
2023 and still keep coming back here
I remember when I first saw this scene, I was blown away and was like "THIS..THIS IS A PS2 GAME?!"
I know right. To be honest PS2 era have many masterpiece game. They're so great that I have a hard time seperating myself from it. Nowadays, the graphic is marvelous, but the story plot? Not so much. I miss PS2 era. Many game I miss playing because my PS2 got broke and I had to further my study at that time. I want to play artonelico again. I only got to play 1 time only.
Can you imagine...singing forever...alone.
I love Misha :')
So we meet again...
Probably good for extremely introverted people.
darn, it has been 10 years since I first play this game... I feel so old right now :(
You're not alone i feel old too hahaha
What game is?
Currently replaying Ar tonelico 2 now. Still having fun even I'm repeating it, as expected from a masterpiece game!
close to 5 years and still listening
9 years
10 years now
10 and more to come
@@Bhisma44 11 years
Maybe will be 12 soon
Will never stop listening to this masterpiece
Ar tonelico was one of the reasons I decided to pursue linguistics...that and some history clases.
I fell in love with such a beautifully rich and well constructed language whose roots lie in such a condensed yet contextually adaptable framework, this is especially true with AR2's New Testament of Pastalie script which, while harsher on the ears than Standard Note, offers much more in terms of expressive flexibility to play and build from.
Admittedly, Standard Note just sounds better when sung due to the language base it's drawn from, and the local japanese talent gives it a unique ethnic flair that leaves something both eerily close to home yet not.
Its true brilliance, whichever script you prefer, lies in the basic syntax and grammar which makes the language viable as it CAN be translated, appended, and expanded on just as with any other "real" language. The trick is momentum of use and proliferation. Abstract concepts only gain a state of conceptual objectivity if and when they become a part of the larger surrounding sociocultural framework and transcends it by becoming embedded with a near subconscious perceptual schema...in short, when something becomes less an "idea" and more a state of "don't think, feel".
That's how best I can articulate the concept anyway...
You sound like my english teacher. I'm doing english language for year 12, which focuses on linguistics and the analysis of language. Its great of course but i hate using all the metalanguage because then my sentences barely make sense and sound like jargon riddled gibberish therefore i don't use it resulting in not so great test scores, haha
Tragic. You study linguistics, but you can't write in a way normal people can understand
Do you really have to be so rude? Does it make you feel better?
Anthony Yang This was supposed to be something that even normal People can understand. But you couldn't do it .-.
sleepyprinny then please help humanos become an actual usable language for humans and robotics. So they don’t kill us all like Sophia wants to
*An angel's voice ! I can't stop listening, over and over...*
17 years later, and this is still my favourite video game song of all time. Epiiiic!
Thanks so much for putting this together. Having the Hymos language and orthography really adds so much to the mysteriousness of this song!
All of Misha's songs are so awesome !
Especially EXEC_HARMONIOUS and EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY.
yandere ._. Sung by Misha
So technically this is Misha's song, because when someone downloads a Hymn Crystal, they get their own song out of it, as different people interpret it differently.
Alex Pedersen Yes. However I think the Hymn can only be sung by someone of the Lune lineage.
Glad this video still there when I check it.
Is been soo long, and here I am back again.
Welcome back :)
10 year later this is still my favorite song
After three episodes this is still my favorite Hymm, I still get goosebumps listening to this.
At 1:27, the last phrase sung in a octave, felt so heavy. It's almost like after all the conflict, Mir was abruptly put to deep coma. It's so powerful and matches the lyrics so well that it almost brought me to tears.
It actually brought me to tears.
This is the section at which the song begins when it is heard for the first time during Aurica's route (right as the Linker took effect and Mule successfully entered Aurica's mind with nothing left to stop her). So in effect, this is exactly what happens in-game.
Listening to this song just wells up so much strong emotions into my eyes.
2025 here and still hear it.
Such beauty song
10 years past and I'm still listing
Me too 😊
Same here. Ar Tonelico always have a special place for me, back then I was at one of my lowest point in my life it saved me.
Still the best Song in the series. It was hearing this that made me truly love the first game.
Its 2021 now, i still remember the shock i felt when i learned that misha has to sang this her entire life. When lyner promised to save her even when she didnt replied she heard him, its also when i dedicated to choose her path no matter what 😂😂
It's not her entire life, it's just 30 years from her 150 year life span. Misha is lying.
Luckily, Lyner doesn't have 'paths.' He gets ALL the girls.
@@ChargeQMand because of him too Croix got additional one (if you know what I mean)
2022. I returned here to listen to this great piece
2022 and here I am still back to this masterpiece
The power to end any dispute. The power to spread peace and destroy hate. The power to unify the living regardless of their past. For the sake of this power, there is a single sacrifice. Exec_Chronicle=Key/., the hymn that is the most human, the hymn that anyone can relate to and come to understand.
This Hymn has the power that can soothe all those who are in pain... But to keep peace, a maiden must sacrifice herself. But she does this in order for the people to live on...
@@pupprinateacup660 For me this one was almost painfully sad. On the one hand you have someone who must sacrifice themselves and it isn't even necessarily willingly (it has been a while since I played the game, but if I recall it was pretty much a "you're born into it" position.) On the other hand, you have them doing this to keep Mir from awakening again, which is also cruel in itself as all Mir truly ever needed was to just not be treated so horribly and used by people.
@@NazoKiyoubinbou So, actual question here, if they were keeping her alseep for so long, why didn't they just kill her?
@@xaldreca3403 I couldn't give you an exact answer there. Mir was undoubtedly quite powerful, but in that state surely not so much. All I can say is that despite all the deaths that happened before they couldn't bring themselves to kill her. It might also be partially in recognition of the guilt for having done all that to her in the first place.
URRRRRRGH BEAUTIFUL VOICE FROM AN EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL REYVATEIL!!! ...seriously, Misha's character design is pretty good. Her mini kimono looking outfit is funky.
It’s so beautiful to listen to 😭💜
One word: "EPIC". Nothing else can describe this beautiful hymn!
2023 still listening.
2022, and Im still listen to Ar Tonelico songs.
the lyrics are stellar and I love the melody, it's so beautiful.
After paying attention to the lyrics, I realized that this song pretty much give away that Mir doesn't wan't to fight, that she only wish for peace. I've never noticed that. 😢
Still going back to this song once a month. Misha, hope there will be remaster release one day
everytime i listen to this song i cry, rlly is very beautiful, this is a prove of perfection.
Thanks for vid! Being able to see all three subtitles together is very nice.
after all this time ,, this still beautifull
These games deserve rereleases, I find myself really missing the Hymnos of these games
Everytime, almost ten years later, this still gives me chills
2024 and still listen this song...❤❤❤
2024, and I still go back to this song to have my soul invigorated.
Im just reading about Ar Tonelico on the wiki and this game just seems amazing.
It is, u need to play the AT 1 and AT 2
this is the best o the best of all, my favorite without a fucking doubt in my mind, the masterpiece of all the Hymnos Concert
2022 and still listening to this amazing song
i miss my classic ps2 games :( even though its 5 years ago i still listening to this song
Misha route FTW!!
Misha is the best
2020 and i still love this song
Still a masterpiece.
---2022
After 7 years, I still get goosebumps listening to this song
So. Whats up?
@@puniyo1 Life, I suppose. Having a family to support means I have far less time to play games now, but I do come back here from time to time.
Just listening to the song makes me feel like I wanna play this game again
I wish there is a pc port
I fell asleep listening to this and didn't wake until my batteries ran out. Thanks Misha.
God I still love Ar Tonelico songs
2022, Chronicle key keeps holding a special place in our hearts, acting like a light in the night.
I CAN"T PREVENT MYSELF FROM LISTENING TO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!
I first heard about this game while surfing through wikipedia. This single video has now forced me to search ardently for this game and to subscribe :D Hope I find a place to get this game.
This song is AWESOME! You can actually feel the meaning of the song without actually understanding it... At least I did.
The reason why i like hymnos:
Before the end of 2022, let's listen this again
Wow 2 years passed
I wish they would remaster all of these games. Id totally buy em
this is the song that Misha had to sing over and over in order to keep Mir sealed inside cresent chronicle, right? I swear I almost cried when I played for the first time..
#cmiiw
I cried when I had to leave Misha in there singing alone for god know how long,
@@azzamilhamzaidan1502 -and I feel kind of bad for actually liking this song enough that I searched for it and probably listened to it at least 20 times in a row not long after finishing the game.
Reason when i choice Misha route was chronicle key.
2024 OF AR TONELICO WHERE ARE YOU EVERYONE?!
2024, still masterpiece
This is Artifact
Finally aftet 10 years i found it back this song
In some parts is like a Christmas song, it's so deep and cheerful.
+stef96ify If you can call cheerful a song that is pretty much a requiem in sound and purpose.
***** Well in contest it's cheerful after all, or it's what it's supposed to be for Mir: rest in the tower for the sake of humans and reyvateils peace (at least it's Shurelia's opinion)
+stef96ify Which is not the case. The song was constructed from the feelings of pity and sadness the first Star Singer had, and for Shurelia it was the last resort they had for Mir to not destroy Sol Ciel. Additionally, the lyrics and the story they contain (a girl cursed with a great power that ends up losing her beloved due to a mad king that ultimately also kills her) don't reflect any sort of happiness.
***** Well you've got a point. In fact I felt really sorry for Mir when in the middle of the story I learned the truth about her past, so Chronicle Key wasn't really of any help to tranquilize her...
+stef96ify The way I see it is that she is singing "a lullaby devoted to you". Parts of it feels soothing and calming like a lullaby, while the rest is full of sorrow and struggles. Maybe you felt the same. :)
This song just beautifull 👍
2024 in!
I miss this song.
2024 ladies and gentlemen!!!
彌紗・アルトセルク・リューンの奏でる宿命の詩…か。
Actually, Tsuboy has collaborated quite a bit with all of the main singers from the series, as he was in charge of playing the violin in several of their songs.
This was the first video i ever farorited. I love Misha, and this hyme so much. T^T
Esto es la caña de OST 💪💪💪
wow its been so long and this song is still good. What do i find weird is the game portrays she would be singing forever but eventually she will be retired after 20 or 30 years before another clone is made and she also has like 150 year lifespan so nothing to cry about to much.
Indeed. Her Cosmosphere also shows she's acting like a drama queen so Lyner pities her, so she's exaggerating the situation. Sure, 30 years singing nonstop sucks, but it's not her whole life as she says.
There is another possibility that is lore-unfriendly but rather likely. Gust could have just retconned this. Likely, originally they meant star singers to sing for their entire life, but later it was found self-inconsistent. If star singer were to sing until death and only then new star singer is to take her place, then there could be a gap between them because even for betas it is not easy to precisely predict lifespan, and if gap is allowed, then Misha's absence is not a big deal, it would be okay to act as if she have died and prepare a replacement early. So, Gust had to come up with the idea of 20-30 years of singing to explain both why there is no replacement yet (as it is to early for Misha to retire) and why it is not okay to just allow the gap and prepare a replacement.
Also, even considering 20-30 years of duty, it is too long for Lyner, even if alive he would no longer be young at that time. However, Misha's motivation had to be explained in a different way in this case, so I tend to believe when cosmosphere was written, Gust considered singing Chronicke Key to be life-long duty.
@@pavelkolmakov8278 Except that it's easy to predict lifespans for Betas because they are designed to live for exactly 150 years, no ifs or buts to it.
The only exception is if the Beta is physically annihilated or if their telomere suffers degradation due to extreme overexertion due to stuff like EXEC_FLIP-type songs, none of which exist in AT1, and Chronicle Key's spectrum and energy demands are among the lowest in the table for existing Hymmnos Extracts, so a Star Singer wouldn't be overexerting herself in any way singing it.
There's also the problem that the same contradiction between Misha's motivations and what the lore actually states is still present in the Flash Cosmosphere, and that was written after it was revealed that Star Singers only have to sing for 30 years.
I'll also add one more thing: if Star Singers actually sang themselves to death like Misha says, there would be no Betas in Platina to teach her the duties she has to uphold, and it has been stated that Misha actually had previous Star Singers to teach her.
@@aquagondrag The question is whether all these lore even existed when AT1 plot was in development. I have a strong feeling it was not and instead lore was gradually expanded and deepened game-to-game not only for players/readers but for the authors themselves. This is quite okay if this is what happened, but small contradictions do appear. In the flash cosmosphere Gust likely had to follow the original way to avoid bringing even more inconsistency.
As a potential teacher (if a teacher is even needed) Platina always has Shurelia.
One more reason I believe most part of this lore on betas and reivateils in general was not in place when plot of AT1 was in development is that Shurelia is not even surprised if Aurica sings EXEC_PAJA, nor does she warns Lyner of possible complications if we assume she knew already and, thus, not surprised. Of all the people in the first tower she must know best that it is something exceptional for 3rd generation reivateil to do it. In AT2 even Shun immediately recognizes Jakuri as "not a common 3rd generation" when she is revealed to be able to get Despedia; being admin, Shurelia must know these limitations even better.
Anyway, my impression is that all these deep lore simply did not exist when AT1 was developed, thus the controversies. I might or might not be right about it (or might be partially right).
heart breaking song as always~ de emotion within>
2024, always listening to CHRONICLE_KEY/
2021 and im back here
brat overflow of 13 sentinel aegis rim remind me of this masterpiece
2024, Ar tonelico love 💚
best song ever created for video games T^T
thanks for giving it the sub
Many of the singers actually helped to create the Hymmnos language, so they really went all out to create these songs.
Thank you! My favorite song from Ar Tonelico as well. This is great!
I love this game, too bad it's STILL like $60 in 2024. I'd love to play it again.
Never played the games but they probably have my favorite soundtracks of all time
Sounds gay
Misha just needs a hug.T_T
Still listening, 2022
I've fall in love with Hymmnos since I listened this song… I'm also studying it. It is really beautiful but sometimes I cannot tell the difference betweem English and Hymmnos because some words of the are similar such as 'beautiful' and 'bautiful'，'day' and 'dyya'…the most interesting is'was'!Sometimes I make mistakes when I'm having an exam because of'was'!How sad it is:(
Well, Hymmnos was based on a couple European/World languages, no?
0:50-128 The most beautiful thing i ever heard T_T
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