“Our punches are tight, our range is right, we’re in and out, we’re treating this thing like a real fight with our movement and strikes”- icy mike got that fire too 🔥🔥BARS🔥🔥
Mike is the most honest trainers you will ever listen to. Not many people say shit they are not good at in their videos but this guy does it so naturally. It is human nature, we all suck at something, no need to hide it.
Exactly, unless you just stand there and shell up you're open to be hit. People saying "You can't throw x because they'll hit you with y..." is bs. You throw anything you're susceptible to attack.
@@JayR-ct8pv Plus they always think that if you throw something they can always counter .Ok fella,you counter while I throw 4 punches with maximum power from different angles on different sides to different areas
I always think there is a fine line between striving for perfection of technique and paralysis by analysis. I see this alot with the karate community as we are all about perfection of technique. But at the same time some times you just have to throw weird shit that might not be technically correct. I was in sparring match with a boxer where i was getting killed because he's a thousand times better boxer than me but at the end he gave me a nice compliment telling me i kept landing hits at these weird angles forcing him to adjust.
This reminds me a lot of like, Esports fighting games. I play fighting games competitively, and this is like, the same development arc most players go through as they get better. You start off by throwing out random stuff and getting punished hard because its slow, predictable, and there is no technique. As you get better, you learn the "right" was to play neutral and how to space properly, and how to apply pressure without over extending, etc. But when you get REALLY good, you slowly incorporate some of that "noob" stuff back into your play. every now and then you throw in that really weird bad option a lower level player would do, but since youre a very high level player, its entirely unexpected and will often times actually end up working. And you dont do it much. You only throw that kinda stuff in here and there so its always unpredictable which is what MAKES it good. It leaves your opponent always guessing what youre going to do and they can never figure it out allowing for many openings. It sounds a lot like the "wrong" way to do stuff in real fighting. If its completely unexpected, it can end up working and landing which is why really strong fighters sometimes do those weird options.
Well actually, the way I throw uppercuts is by holding my guard up while pressing the nuclear launch button to beat my opponent, anything else would just leave me vulnerable for a fraction of a second which means I would lose instantly.
I try very hard to make sure I'm not just self serving with videos but every once in awhile I just end up saying some shit I wish someone would say to me.
I always load my uppercuts when im in a comfortable distance,or use the load up motion to evade or disguise a hook instead of a uppercut. If I'm in longer distance I try to spear the uppercut . that's how I do it tho and it works for me
Long range uppercut and long left hook, along with long body jab and the Tyson uppercut jab = 4 shots at different ranges set up with the same feint, reacting to opponent's reaction ie: feint and counter the counter
I prefer long renge upercuts with a loading motion that starts from the foot trying to transport my weight from on side of the body to another allot of times friends say that its not the right way but it always lands and hard so i never listen to them whatever works for you is the right think thats my opinion
Hey Mike - as a youTuber with 260,000 subscribers I agree with you on (fake name) 'expert' commentary. There's a level of nuance which is often overlooked by these people in all subject areas. I'm an amateur enthusiast at violence (so, not nearly as qualified as you) but I think these 'experts' saying 'if you do that then you'll get knocked out' fail to acknowledge that what you do in the moment in a fight, in the ring or in the street largely depends upon what your opponent offers you in that moment. If you've just landed one and they're affected by it, you have time to load up. But if they're hammering you and you load up out of desperation they'll probably destroy you. There's a hundred different ways to do anything (if you're operationally proficient) and the right version depends, often, on the granular detail of the prevailing circumstances in that moment. Enjoy your videos - thanks a lot for all the tips (especially how to deliver two left hooks in a row) - John.
great videos my friend , Ive done a bit of boxing as a young fella ,martial arts for quiet a few years instructing , and an unarmed combat instructor for a few years , there's a massive difference between static striking and dynamic striking , combat ,fighting is all about movement be it attacking evading defensive ,distance ,its all about rhythm and timing and finding angles , strikes punches can come in many forms and from many angles , you are 100 % correct in saying there is no right way its whatever works , you have the basic technique of a strike that then gets adapted to combat timing and distance , the worst people to fight are those that have very little experience because they throw shit that isn't expected and it hits you , find a target and hit it , obviously the better base and technique will have more power but it may just be something used to set up another more powerful strike .
As a lanky dude I love the spear uppercuts from outside. Basically another straight but from a different angle. Different body types and fighting styles breed their own variations/gradients of punches. Ingrain the fundamentals and then start to figure out what works for you. Great content man!
Couldn't agree more. People that say "if you do that you get knocked out" lack a true understanding of the saying "not stupid if it works". Context dictates practicality of strikes and when we're talking hypothetical, you can't just go in a straight line. Sometimes stupid shit are just hard to pull off, but not impossible. *Shows a bunch of clips with "impractical shit" with great results irl.
I understand 100% what you’re trying to do. Showing people different tools to put in the arsenal. Like you said if it’s not for you don’t use it. 🤷🏾♂️ Thanks for all the videos. 👍🏾
Tony Ferguson does the uppercut this way (like a cross). I saw it in a sparring video on youtube also (another guy). Je did Jab to the head, jab to the body and then the long uppercut. He landed clear.
I was trained to squat, load up, launch the legs, and release the hand palm facing you, out at a 45 degree angle, aiming for the sternum. Leading the glove / fist to the chin. My load up became more subtle and fast without losing power and it's a favorite to use against an opponent with wide elbows, or lingering punches. It's the softest punch, just a bit less than a jab, that I've dropped people with. I've still dropped more with hooks.
When you teach a newcomer something, you tell them it's the "right way" so they learn the mechanics right. Learning to fight is about leaning where the edge cases are. Sub-optimal techniques work if you understand the upsides and downsides of what you are doing. I feel like anyone with that kind of black and white perspective has never spent serious time sparing and thinking.
OMG you wrap your hands exacly like i do!! So many coaches told me i will break my hand if i have wraps around fingers but i do this since 10 yrs. Its just about not stretch too much the elastic wrap when the band goes between fingers
Yeah notice the guys doing most of the criticizing are not exactly prolific content creators. Insecurity is crippling them. We can't let it drag us down too.
I like your channel. As a freshspawn with no experience, you make things simple and clear for me. I enjoy stickfighting, it’s good fun. I know nothing about boxing. I have an experienced thai-bo buddy, with whom I spar (practically and theoretically), and we talk about some of the tecniques and issues you present. But I also revisit a lot for entertainmemt. This channel has super high entertainment value! :) I watch this shit like others watch friends. Good fun,
I appreciate the comment about don't be afraid to do stuff you're not good at. I know jiu jitsu has been great for me as far as exposing to lots of people what I'm not good at. I get corrected and sometimes embarassed, in real-time, and have to figure out how to improve. So you would think that fear of failure would be gone, nope! I want to start Muay Thai in August and I'm nervous about it. I don't know how to punch or kick, so I'm worried I'll look stupid. After five years of jiu jitsu, that fear of looking stupid should be drilled out of me. It isn't.
I took a double end bag and attached it with a bungee to my heavy bag, makes a target for uppercuts. Not the best but it works as something to make contact with.
Hi Mike, thanks for the video. I really appreciate you covered a topic I asked about. Ad "wrong" things working, this is, what I love about sparring, the momment when you say to yourself: "What, that worked?". (Of course more often I say: "What, that should have worked." :-D ) In my first boxing sparring, when my partner tried to roll, I did the swing uppercut and I by misstake hit him with the heel of my palm - I nearly knocked him out. On one hand I was really sorry about what happened, but on the other hand I was thinking about that being a tricky move in a different rule set.
That Straight Spear Uppercut is basically Arrow Punch from Wing Chun. It's a straight Drill Punch (upside down Cross or Reverse Punch) travelling upwards diagonally. Not a curving line like Boxing's Uppercut, but a straightening arm going upward diagonally. I had a Boxing coach who called it an, "Up-Jab." (Not talking shiz, just offering other arts' takes so you can all look up how they do it.)
I have that one competitive boxer as an acquintance of mine who critisized my striking as 'poking' and taught me to load up every strike. I argued that it makes the strike angle obvious but he parried my argument with fainting. Every technique is legit as long as it produces the result. But ultimately the correct technique is the one that will bring the opponent down.
I usually bolo my rear uppers but do the squat down upper squat up thing with my lead. But I also throw my rear uppers like a cross and my lead uppers like a spear. I'll use both but I'll favor a technique over another based on what my opponent is defending/countering with. I'll work on "jumping into" my upper once we get back to the gym. I don't feel shadow boxing is an optimal way to learn new techniques, rather refine and combine.
One of the major issues in Martial arts schools in general. I experienced it myself as a student and as an instructor "your not doing it how we taught it" like there is only one way to do things..
The non-squatting uppercut can be good against taller opponents as squatting first might make the range awkward or make you overcommit, but as you said: If it lands, it works
If it lands it's right, do you remember a fighter named Donovan Razor Ruddock? He used to throw a combination hook/uppercut that was unorthodox but it worked so well for him.
I think this is a situation where Martial Arts are similar to Fine Arts. First you learn the "rules," then you learn when and how to break them. If people are really stuck on the "rules" or the "right way" to do something, it may mean that they're just not ready to take that next step yet.
Yes the thing your often not supposed to do it’s a faint or a trap . I don’t do boxing but I’ve done sword fighting my motto has become it’s not wrong if it works .
There are many different ways to throw any strike, the ‘correct’ way is the way that works for you! I hate the if I do this they will do that comments as every fight is different and not everyone has the same reaction. Like you said if it lands it’s worked! 👊
When I throw an uppercut without squatting, I dip my shoulder and engage the opposite side of my core to help add some snap when “rising” again... lol, that probably doesn’t help any.
Funnily enough, whilst I'm watching this video, RUclips's recommended fightTIPS "I Changed the Way I Punch" as the next video. Proving your point that there is more than one way to punch.
The problem with our attitude to learning is that we're always looking for the one "right" way to do things - me included - but we forget that there are two stages of learning. The first is learning the technique. The second is the style. Everyone obsessed with the first should go and watch Prince Naseem Hamed videos. He's doing so much "wrong" and yet he became a champion. His style won him a lot of fights and it worked for him.
@@IcyMikeP Oh no! It's just that I recently had an argument with one of my schoolmate and I was winning so he turned the whole situation around and just wanted to fight me. And here where I live you mess with one, you mess with his whole group of friends which is kind of a pussy move if I may say.
I didn't relise the little 'rap' in the last video was ad lib - I thought it was great 😂 The traditional karate version of the uppercut (Ura-Zuki) is very close to your beginner's version (i.e. done out of a deep stance).
True, a few years ago, I made a video showing a kicking combo where you need to miss with the low kick to continue thru with a spinning hook kick. Good points about online criticism as well... nice ending, the ego is a tricky enemy👍🏻
Primo content as per usual! Wish you went into setting up with the unloaded(?) uppercut since it's faster to throw; it's a great tool to have. Looking forward to the next one!
Depends where you are trying to land the uppercut, are you coming out of a clinch? Are you wearing mma gloves or boxing gloves? That spear version works better with mma gloves, the load up versions work better for a liver shot.
I think the idea that "this is how it's done and it's the only way" is something that sticks with us from the beginning because of our faith/trust in the person/people training us and insecurities about maybe doing something "wrong" and being made fun of, if you look at all the greats they all do things that are wrong on a technical level but it works(before you say it, I know I'm not them). The basics of every martial art exist to give you a foundation to build from, and part of building your skillset at anything comes from experimenting with different angles and setups it teaches you theres situations where something that shouldn't work sometimes can if the set-up for is there, but with all of that being said you have to learn the rules before you start breaking them.
That uppercut you struggle with I throw on the bag. Never really use it in sparring but on pure technique I just think of it as an upside down jab for a bag that doesn’t hit back it works pretty well for me lol
That outro and music tho is 🔥. You make me wanna start uploading my own videos cuz you have no shame you just do and say whatever you’re thinking and make jokes I love it
Everytime I post a new video I am mortified for at least a day, because I fear criticism, and I am afraid that my technique isn't "perfect". But the more I see and the more I learn, the more I realize that no one really has a "perfect" technique and everyone can bring something new to the table. This video really hit that spot. Thanks coach!
Good video my friend! Your boxing fundamentals are much better than (most) kickboxers that I see. Or maybe I am just biased to punching. Very Good video. Happy Memorial Day.
Hey Mike, been a big fan for a long time now! Love your videos. Could you make a video about throwing a proper rear hook? Couldn't find a video on some advanced explanation of a powerful rear hook, only lead hooks. Just some analysis on foot placement and how to load up properly. Cheers, Jason
@@IcyMikeP Another video idea: Thoughts on a cobra reflex bag? Some people including myself can't really mount a double end bag due to landlord issues. The cobra reflex bag might be a good idea and it's been more popularised by social media stars like Ryan Garcia, etc. (Maybe you might even get a killer sponsor :))
A good example of some lead uppercuts or a ass kicker is Gervonta Tank Davis . The more and more i watch fight content its more so the will power to throw punches and be able to react to what happens after regardless of what can happen the greats throw the punches .
Precision Striking and Fightitps will agree with what you say. Both of them don't advocate ONE way of punch. They themselves will give you different variations of the same punch.
Anytime I do "power strikes" (uppercuts, hooks, etc) I open my arm just a little bit and do a the whole "squat" thing and at the last second I "snap" my arm in almost like I'm trying to hit myself but I don't. I think as long as you keep proper form and throw the shots "correct" then it's not going to be easy for someone else to hit you. I might do a vid on it sometime. Thanks for sharing man.
I dont count the bolo 'uppercut' as an uppercut, I count it as a type of straight with the hand supinated. Its power generation isnt that much different from a straight with a swing of the arm and extension at the end. For me, real uppercuts are only the ones with upwards force, using the jumping muscles.
Perfect ending! If this fighting thing doesn't work out, due to you advanced age, you have an entertaining channel. Criticism...in the fight game...where we prove things with our fists and wits...it makes me laugh. Everybody has a plan...
For that variation of the uppercut you were trying out, I like to shift my weight to the back foot. If your rear foot is your right you will also shift your body weight right and back slightly. There is a lot of body structure behind this punch and its good as a counter when somebody invades your space.
If only people study boxing many boxers uses 200 million variations of all kind of punches even some punches that is not basic mechanics that are taught to beginners you can punch with your arms for different kind of reasons set up flurry etc
Comparative size is the key for me. Working effectively with shot selection has to take into account your opponent more than what you think you are good at.
I’m insecure, so...it didn’t look like you threw any arm punches as I have understood them. Maybe I’m not understanding them. Everything works if it’s used in the right moments for the right reasons....right?
I will say that I initially will disagree with a lot of techniques observed on youtube. However, I will then later go work them and rework my techniques to see if I do any at any level. Many times I will use them to some degree in situations. I may not agree that they are the best way or correct way to teach someone but hardly will say they are all out wrong
The standing uppercut uses more your back than your legs, that's how I was taught. You should try to get your back shoulder to the front with it fast and at an uppercut angle. I prefer the squatting one because it's more powerful but this one got more range and you commit less.
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Question for Viewers: What are some other techniques people think there is only one way to throw?
Icy Mike lead hook with Ryan Garcia
I dont beleve in styles anymore
Low kicks , people sometimes tell me there is one way to.
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Sidekicks cause no variation even works so there is no right or wrong way sidekicks are just wrong
“Our punches are tight, our range is right, we’re in and out, we’re treating this thing like a real fight with our movement and strikes”- icy mike got that fire too 🔥🔥BARS🔥🔥
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lmao its actually good
Mike is the most honest trainers you will ever listen to. Not many people say shit they are not good at in their videos but this guy does it so naturally. It is human nature, we all suck at something, no need to hide it.
Getting in to the ring is a good way to get knocked out!
Exactly, unless you just stand there and shell up you're open to be hit. People saying "You can't throw x because they'll hit you with y..." is bs. You throw anything you're susceptible to attack.
@@JayR-ct8pv Plus they always think that if you throw something they can always counter .Ok fella,you counter while I throw 4 punches with maximum power from different angles on different sides to different areas
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I always think there is a fine line between striving for perfection of technique and paralysis by analysis. I see this alot with the karate community as we are all about perfection of technique. But at the same time some times you just have to throw weird shit that might not be technically correct. I was in sparring match with a boxer where i was getting killed because he's a thousand times better boxer than me but at the end he gave me a nice compliment telling me i kept landing hits at these weird angles forcing him to adjust.
This reminds me a lot of like, Esports fighting games. I play fighting games competitively, and this is like, the same development arc most players go through as they get better.
You start off by throwing out random stuff and getting punished hard because its slow, predictable, and there is no technique. As you get better, you learn the "right" was to play neutral and how to space properly, and how to apply pressure without over extending, etc. But when you get REALLY good, you slowly incorporate some of that "noob" stuff back into your play. every now and then you throw in that really weird bad option a lower level player would do, but since youre a very high level player, its entirely unexpected and will often times actually end up working. And you dont do it much. You only throw that kinda stuff in here and there so its always unpredictable which is what MAKES it good. It leaves your opponent always guessing what youre going to do and they can never figure it out allowing for many openings.
It sounds a lot like the "wrong" way to do stuff in real fighting. If its completely unexpected, it can end up working and landing which is why really strong fighters sometimes do those weird options.
Well said. We should strive for ideal technique but also be capable of adapting on the fly
I think that's why people who are very critical usually aren't posting their own stuff.
Well actually, the way I throw uppercuts is by holding my guard up while pressing the nuclear launch button to beat my opponent, anything else would just leave me vulnerable for a fraction of a second which means I would lose instantly.
Man i stumbled on here about batons and now im into flashlights and uppercuts. You're cool as hell.
Damn, mike had an existential crisis at the end
I try very hard to make sure I'm not just self serving with videos but every once in awhile I just end up saying some shit I wish someone would say to me.
I always load my uppercuts when im in a comfortable distance,or use the load up motion to evade or disguise a hook instead of a uppercut. If I'm in longer distance I try to spear the uppercut . that's how I do it tho and it works for me
Long range uppercut and long left hook, along with long body jab and the Tyson uppercut jab = 4 shots at different ranges set up with the same feint, reacting to opponent's reaction ie: feint and counter the counter
I prefer long renge upercuts with a loading motion that starts from the foot trying to transport my weight from on side of the body to another allot of times friends say that its not the right way but it always lands and hard so i never listen to them whatever works for you is the right think thats my opinion
Hey Mike - as a youTuber with 260,000 subscribers I agree with you on (fake name) 'expert' commentary. There's a level of nuance which is often overlooked by these people in all subject areas. I'm an amateur enthusiast at violence (so, not nearly as qualified as you) but I think these 'experts' saying 'if you do that then you'll get knocked out' fail to acknowledge that what you do in the moment in a fight, in the ring or in the street largely depends upon what your opponent offers you in that moment. If you've just landed one and they're affected by it, you have time to load up. But if they're hammering you and you load up out of desperation they'll probably destroy you. There's a hundred different ways to do anything (if you're operationally proficient) and the right version depends, often, on the granular detail of the prevailing circumstances in that moment. Enjoy your videos - thanks a lot for all the tips (especially how to deliver two left hooks in a row) - John.
So it's not just a thing in martial arts youtube?
@@hard2hurt Absolutely not - it's insecurity + the Dunning Kruger effect + access to a keyboard, and the ability to hide behind a fake name.
great videos my friend , Ive done a bit of boxing as a young fella ,martial arts for quiet a few years instructing , and an unarmed combat instructor for a few years , there's a massive difference between static striking and dynamic striking , combat ,fighting is all about movement be it attacking evading defensive ,distance ,its all about rhythm and timing and finding angles , strikes punches can come in many forms and from many angles , you are 100 % correct in saying there is no right way its whatever works , you have the basic technique of a strike that then gets adapted to combat timing and distance , the worst people to fight are those that have very little experience because they throw shit that isn't expected and it hits you , find a target and hit it , obviously the better base and technique will have more power but it may just be something used to set up another more powerful strike .
As a lanky dude I love the spear uppercuts from outside. Basically another straight but from a different angle. Different body types and fighting styles breed their own variations/gradients of punches. Ingrain the fundamentals and then start to figure out what works for you. Great content man!
Mike, you're such an honest cool guy. so glad i found your page. you've helped me out a lot
I'm glad you found us too... happy to help.
Couldn't agree more. People that say "if you do that you get knocked out" lack a true understanding of the saying "not stupid if it works".
Context dictates practicality of strikes and when we're talking hypothetical, you can't just go in a straight line. Sometimes stupid shit are just hard to pull off, but not impossible.
*Shows a bunch of clips with "impractical shit" with great results irl.
I understand 100% what you’re trying to do. Showing people different tools to put in the arsenal. Like you said if it’s not for you don’t use it. 🤷🏾♂️ Thanks for all the videos. 👍🏾
Tony Ferguson does the uppercut this way (like a cross). I saw it in a sparring video on youtube also (another guy). Je did Jab to the head, jab to the body and then the long uppercut. He landed clear.
So I was just searching for your last uppercut video and you have a new one. Awesome!
I felt you in the matrix.
I was trained to squat, load up, launch the legs, and release the hand palm facing you, out at a 45 degree angle, aiming for the sternum. Leading the glove / fist to the chin. My load up became more subtle and fast without losing power and it's a favorite to use against an opponent with wide elbows, or lingering punches. It's the softest punch, just a bit less than a jab, that I've dropped people with. I've still dropped more with hooks.
When you teach a newcomer something, you tell them it's the "right way" so they learn the mechanics right. Learning to fight is about leaning where the edge cases are. Sub-optimal techniques work if you understand the upsides and downsides of what you are doing. I feel like anyone with that kind of black and white perspective has never spent serious time sparing and thinking.
OMG you wrap your hands exacly like i do!! So many coaches told me i will break my hand if i have wraps around fingers but i do this since 10 yrs. Its just about not stretch too much the elastic wrap when the band goes between fingers
'Don't be afraid to post shit you are not good at either.' Totally resonated with me for my last video. Good shit, Mike.
Yeah notice the guys doing most of the criticizing are not exactly prolific content creators. Insecurity is crippling them. We can't let it drag us down too.
@@hard2hurt you on some next level shiet, my man.
"I think it's just about me, sorry"
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I like your channel. As a freshspawn with no experience, you make things simple and clear for me. I enjoy stickfighting, it’s good fun. I know nothing about boxing. I have an experienced thai-bo buddy, with whom I spar (practically and theoretically), and we talk about some of the tecniques and issues you present. But I also revisit a lot for entertainmemt. This channel has super high entertainment value! :) I watch this shit like others watch friends. Good fun,
I appreciate the comment about don't be afraid to do stuff you're not good at. I know jiu jitsu has been great for me as far as exposing to lots of people what I'm not good at. I get corrected and sometimes embarassed, in real-time, and have to figure out how to improve. So you would think that fear of failure would be gone, nope!
I want to start Muay Thai in August and I'm nervous about it. I don't know how to punch or kick, so I'm worried I'll look stupid. After five years of jiu jitsu, that fear of looking stupid should be drilled out of me. It isn't.
I took a double end bag and attached it with a bungee to my heavy bag, makes a target for uppercuts. Not the best but it works as something to make contact with.
Hi Mike, thanks for the video. I really appreciate you covered a topic I asked about. Ad "wrong" things working, this is, what I love about sparring, the momment when you say to yourself: "What, that worked?". (Of course more often I say: "What, that should have worked." :-D ) In my first boxing sparring, when my partner tried to roll, I did the swing uppercut and I by misstake hit him with the heel of my palm - I nearly knocked him out. On one hand I was really sorry about what happened, but on the other hand I was thinking about that being a tricky move in a different rule set.
That Straight Spear Uppercut is basically Arrow Punch from Wing Chun. It's a straight Drill Punch (upside down Cross or Reverse Punch) travelling upwards diagonally. Not a curving line like Boxing's Uppercut, but a straightening arm going upward diagonally. I had a Boxing coach who called it an, "Up-Jab." (Not talking shiz, just offering other arts' takes so you can all look up how they do it.)
"Our LEHG MOSCLES!" Channeling that Puerto Rican Kung Fu again? :D
Cuban.
Well crap, right area, wrong island/country.
I have that one competitive boxer as an acquintance of mine who critisized my striking as 'poking' and taught me to load up every strike. I argued that it makes the strike angle obvious but he parried my argument with fainting. Every technique is legit as long as it produces the result. But ultimately the correct technique is the one that will bring the opponent down.
I usually bolo my rear uppers but do the squat down upper squat up thing with my lead.
But I also throw my rear uppers like a cross and my lead uppers like a spear.
I'll use both but I'll favor a technique over another based on what my opponent is defending/countering with.
I'll work on "jumping into" my upper once we get back to the gym. I don't feel shadow boxing is an optimal way to learn new techniques, rather refine and combine.
Mike you put out the best shit. I have got to train at this place someday.
Hope to see you some day!
One of the major issues in Martial arts schools in general. I experienced it myself as a student and as an instructor "your not doing it how we taught it" like there is only one way to do things..
You learn the rules so you know when to break them. Learned that in HEMA.
With the squat you dig in there deep. Love that feeling you know you caught him.
The non-squatting uppercut can be good against taller opponents as squatting first might make the range awkward or make you overcommit, but as you said: If it lands, it works
@5:06 Timing and which one, I think what dictates that is what kind of opening is presented, and where you are at that moment...
If it lands it's right, do you remember a fighter named Donovan Razor Ruddock? He used to throw a combination hook/uppercut that was unorthodox but it worked so well for him.
Also everyone should just accept that you'll get hit. Learn to minimize it and deal with it.
Indeed. Unless you're Neo in the Matrix, you're going to get hit.
Getting hit is an important part of fighting.
ah a reasonable comment. INDEED
I think this is a situation where Martial Arts are similar to Fine Arts. First you learn the "rules," then you learn when and how to break them. If people are really stuck on the "rules" or the "right way" to do something, it may mean that they're just not ready to take that next step yet.
Yes the thing your often not supposed to do it’s a faint or a trap . I don’t do boxing but I’ve done sword fighting my motto has become it’s not wrong if it works .
There are many different ways to throw any strike, the ‘correct’ way is the way that works for you! I hate the if I do this they will do that comments as every fight is different and not everyone has the same reaction. Like you said if it lands it’s worked! 👊
420th comment , icy mike is the coldest thank you for all your time and energy put into this
4:42 (simplified) "yes but no"
"Or is this video just about me"
Love your video's man.
I’ve not squatted when throwing an uppercut before. The difference with that is your lead shoulder should be slightly higher than your rear.
When I throw an uppercut without squatting, I dip my shoulder and engage the opposite side of my core to help add some snap when “rising” again... lol, that probably doesn’t help any.
Fight tips shows bending the knees. Shane is a very experienced fighter and martial art practitioner
I was never good at throwing those damn uppercuts in someone's face. Only as body shots. I just couldn't do it. Very frustrating shit :P
Funnily enough, whilst I'm watching this video, RUclips's recommended fightTIPS "I Changed the Way I Punch" as the next video. Proving your point that there is more than one way to punch.
The problem with our attitude to learning is that we're always looking for the one "right" way to do things - me included - but we forget that there are two stages of learning. The first is learning the technique. The second is the style. Everyone obsessed with the first should go and watch Prince Naseem Hamed videos. He's doing so much "wrong" and yet he became a champion. His style won him a lot of fights and it worked for him.
Hey mike I was wondering if you can make a video where you fight a group? Like a group composing atleast 4 people
Ugh you just want to see me get beat up.
@@IcyMikeP Oh no! It's just that I recently had an argument with one of my schoolmate and I was winning so he turned the whole situation around and just wanted to fight me. And here where I live you mess with one, you mess with his whole group of friends which is kind of a pussy move if I may say.
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Did you read it like sergio ??
I didn't relise the little 'rap' in the last video was ad lib - I thought it was great 😂
The traditional karate version of the uppercut (Ura-Zuki) is very close to your beginner's version (i.e. done out of a deep stance).
Great stuff dawg
True, a few years ago, I made a video showing a kicking combo where you need to miss with the low kick to continue thru with a spinning hook kick. Good points about online criticism as well... nice ending, the ego is a tricky enemy👍🏻
Gotta kill the ego
“If it lands it’s right.” Next t-shirt logo?
"If it makes sense, it's a t-shirt slogan!" The t-shirt after that
I use my squat and use drive and occasionally baller one have used Cross one but find it OK
Primo content as per usual! Wish you went into setting up with the unloaded(?) uppercut since it's faster to throw; it's a great tool to have. Looking forward to the next one!
i think you should stop worrying about the comment section do your thing
I needed your Channel in my life. Thank you
I needed it in my life!
Depends where you are trying to land the uppercut, are you coming out of a clinch? Are you wearing mma gloves or boxing gloves? That spear version works better with mma gloves, the load up versions work better for a liver shot.
I think the idea that "this is how it's done and it's the only way" is something that sticks with us from the beginning because of our faith/trust in the person/people training us and insecurities about maybe doing something "wrong" and being made fun of, if you look at all the greats they all do things that are wrong on a technical level but it works(before you say it, I know I'm not them). The basics of every martial art exist to give you a foundation to build from, and part of building your skillset at anything comes from experimenting with different angles and setups it teaches you theres situations where something that shouldn't work sometimes can if the set-up for is there, but with all of that being said you have to learn the rules before you start breaking them.
That uppercut you struggle with I throw on the bag. Never really use it in sparring but on pure technique I just think of it as an upside down jab for a bag that doesn’t hit back it works pretty well for me lol
That outro and music tho is 🔥. You make me wanna start uploading my own videos cuz you have no shame you just do and say whatever you’re thinking and make jokes I love it
What if it lands, and it left
digging the new intro theme
That's a cat from the UK that was a producer on this video, link in the description!
Everytime I post a new video I am mortified for at least a day, because I fear criticism, and I am afraid that my technique isn't "perfect". But the more I see and the more I learn, the more I realize that no one really has a "perfect" technique and everyone can bring something new to the table. This video really hit that spot. Thanks coach!
Very few of the people criticizing post videos... think about a couple reasons that might be.
Dude you should have WAY more likes than you have. This is practical, common sense stuff. Thank you!
Well then get to sharing, homie!
Good video my friend! Your boxing fundamentals are much better than (most) kickboxers that I see. Or maybe I am just biased to punching. Very Good video. Happy Memorial Day.
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Hey Mike, been a big fan for a long time now! Love your videos.
Could you make a video about throwing a proper rear hook? Couldn't find a video on some advanced explanation of a powerful rear hook, only lead hooks. Just some analysis on foot placement and how to load up properly.
Cheers, Jason
That's one that a lot of people struggle with.
@@IcyMikeP Another video idea:
Thoughts on a cobra reflex bag? Some people including myself can't really mount a double end bag due to landlord issues. The cobra reflex bag might be a good idea and it's been more popularised by social media stars like Ryan Garcia, etc. (Maybe you might even get a killer sponsor :))
Hey I DEFINITELY noticed that dope rhyme in that last video. Going to sample that.
Should've delivered it in Ali's cadence
A good example of some lead uppercuts or a ass kicker is Gervonta Tank Davis . The more and more i watch fight content its more so the will power to throw punches and be able to react to what happens after regardless of what can happen the greats throw the punches .
Precision Striking and Fightitps will agree with what you say. Both of them don't advocate ONE way of punch.
They themselves will give you different variations of the same punch.
Dude... that ending was meta af. Just because of that, I'm buying a T-shirt!
"You just skim it, right?"
*punch misses*
Well you know what I mean.
@@IcyMikeP I love and respect what you do brother. Don't mind me. I'm just a guy who can't fight, trying to be funny on the Internet
Anytime I do "power strikes" (uppercuts, hooks, etc) I open my arm just a little bit and do a the whole "squat" thing and at the last second I "snap" my arm in almost like I'm trying to hit myself but I don't. I think as long as you keep proper form and throw the shots "correct" then it's not going to be easy for someone else to hit you. I might do a vid on it sometime. Thanks for sharing man.
*"If it lands, it's right"* quote of the goddamn century right there. Too many people out there saying "20 different ways you're punching wrong!"
I dont count the bolo 'uppercut' as an uppercut, I count it as a type of straight with the hand supinated. Its power generation isnt that much different from a straight with a swing of the arm and extension at the end.
For me, real uppercuts are only the ones with upwards force, using the jumping muscles.
Eddie 'The Beast' Hall has entered the chat.....
@Icy Mike, you are doing it wrong! Use your fist to punch! The gloved thing at the end of your arm! (Just kidding, do not kill me)
LMAO at your ending! Always epic.
I got confused.
Perfect ending! If this fighting thing doesn't work out, due to you advanced age, you have an entertaining channel. Criticism...in the fight game...where we prove things with our fists and wits...it makes me laugh. Everybody has a plan...
We need LEG MUSCLE shirts.
When he said “leg muscles” tell me he didn’t sound like Yoel Romero 🤣🤣🤣
A different Cuban.
he didn’t sound like Yoel Romero
When you squat you're hitting the bag much lower then the other variation, you may have more luck if you raise the bag a bit to get a better angel.
“LEG MUSCLES”!!!
For that variation of the uppercut you were trying out, I like to shift my weight to the back foot. If your rear foot is your right you will also shift your body weight right and back slightly. There is a lot of body structure behind this punch and its good as a counter when somebody invades your space.
If only people study boxing many boxers uses 200 million variations of all kind of punches even some punches that is not basic mechanics that are taught to beginners you can punch with your arms for different kind of reasons set up flurry etc
It looks more like a corkscrew
Yo your Spitting Skillz is fire,better then mumble rappers.All you need is a beat man and you just might have a sing career😎
Where did your eyebrows gone, where?!
Comparative size is the key for me. Working effectively with shot selection has to take into account your opponent more than what you think you are good at.
When a true fist hits true flesh then there is no truer art - Ed Parker
I’m insecure, so...it didn’t look like you threw any arm punches as I have understood them. Maybe I’m not understanding them.
Everything works if it’s used in the right moments for the right reasons....right?
Your rhyming is excellent sir
I appreciate your off-the-cuff style
That little existential crisis at the end was priceless😆😆
I will say that I initially will disagree with a lot of techniques observed on youtube. However, I will then later go work them and rework my techniques to see if I do any at any level. Many times I will use them to some degree in situations. I may not agree that they are the best way or correct way to teach someone but hardly will say they are all out wrong
I believe throw what’s comfortable. I like throw my uppercut with my elbows a little bit flared. And dip a tad bit and use my hips.
The standing uppercut uses more your back than your legs, that's how I was taught. You should try to get your back shoulder to the front with it fast and at an uppercut angle. I prefer the squatting one because it's more powerful but this one got more range and you commit less.