An English Tudor Hall 400 years old
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2019
- In this video we take a look inside a traditional English Tudor Timber framed Mansion/Hall. Over 400 years old this Medieval house is Tongue Hall in Middleton Manchester. Its a time capsule from about 15 years ago since the last owner moved out. Elizabeth the 1st was on the English throne when this house was built. So its a good insight into English history. The house has been vandalised in 2007. The house has been extensively altered during the 1700's and 1800's This Tudor, Elizabethan house is fascinating and I also try to give a potted history on the ownership.This is an urbex urban explore in the house.
Thanks Dean for the Intro and Outro music www.Facebook/sensorytriggered 
Развлечения
The Intro and Outro Music was done by my friend Dean. Look him up on Facebook/sensory triggered 👍
Martin Zero: you should go to Normanton Englan near wakefield because there is a place called Newland Hall Estate which dates back to 1200s with the Nights Templar.
So sad yet so beautiful....
Wow !!
@@MartinZero I have been there once and sadly it is in an extreme state of disrepair if you google it
Fantastic music by Dean.
The clowns who burned the place need 400 year old justice. Would be the last time they do it!!
They need Gibbiting
How sad, brought tears to my eyes, how could they set fire to something so historical
Lisa Melberger😢 😤
Because they have no brain. They live for nothing but Chao's.
I am descended from the Tonge Family, how sad is it to see my ancestors home vandalised ,Thank you Martin for preserving a record of my ancestors home
Oh, so you visited often? What’s your favorite area?
Im so sorry that these idiots have damaged your family home. Im sure you are a lovely family and that your ancestors had many happy years there.
Is this house still there?
Stop fibbing
I'm descended from Chief Smelly Arse of the Never Wiping tribe.
Seeing the what I presume are hazel sticks which would of made up the original building, fascinates me. The people who put them there lived in the MEDIEVAL ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im a bit nerdy but it blows me away. Great Video, Hope its saved.
Thanks Karen, yeah I really hope its saved
Probably a young lad that cut those
Waddle and day was still being used as a construction method until mid 1800s.
ur probably right about hazel.i build donegal currachs here in ireland .once seasoned hazel is solid.willow has a pith and rots quickly...
Wattle n daub
The local Authority or those involved with getting the scaffolding organised and security need to act fast before anything else happens to it and get the previous owners things out and store them before they are lost forever. The building needs to be preserved more than all the modern buildings presently being built. These buildings are valuable in so many ways.
Research about Newland Hall Estate Normanton on google and see how old and in ruins they are
Well put, I totally agree that this place needs to be saved. That way we can at least hold on to some of our cultural heritage, because it’s fast being destroyed for one reason or another.
@Mr Firzpatrick if it's Rochdale Councils responsibility then I wouldn't hold your breath.
Rochdale council did buy the site
Found this amazing..and terribly sad at the same time. England’s history ,heritage and tradition doesn’t seem to matter much anymore....if only more Brits knew how precious and rare their country and its historic buildings really are, priceless, irreplaceable . Nothing like this in the U.S.
I am in awe of the timber ages....I pray everything’s guarded well preserved and treasured for a few more centuries. Subscribed and liked, thank you from Texas.
Thanks very much. Thank you for subscribing. I will try to keep you posted on the house but so far little has changed
Britain is not the only country who's histories don t seem to matter much. Just ask young America about our country, they most likely tell you the founders were racists and malcontents.
J Huntoon hi, sadly, the anti British Government, can't wait to tear down traditional British buildings and replace them with grey, cheap square boxes, I kid you not, whether it be, lovely old ornate buildings or houses, our once great Christian nation has been infiltrated and taken over by the one worlders, the globalists. I guarantee the next thing they are going to destroy is the monarcy, because sadly, once that is gone, the British peoples God given rights will be gone, as written in the Magna Carta - ( Salisbury Cathedral still has original copy - I think ) and bill of rights. It is very sad that so many British people have either left our shores or given up on God, instead of standing up and fighting for their independance, their fellow Brit, their children, their Country, their Nation.
@@intrepidbun5002 That isn't true at all. There is an abundance of old buildings all over the country, the vast majority are listed buildings in a good state of repair. Buildings like this form only a small minority of old properties (at least this old).
@@maxisussex Mr. Baggins is correct and the present state of Tongue Hall provides typical evidence.
I had an overwhelming sadness come over me whilst watching this beautiful historical building. I just can’t comprehend why anyone would want to set fire to it. Thanks for the upload
Thanks Catherine and yes I agree
The Tudor period is my favourite and it's so sad to see this beautiful house in such a state. I do hope someone saves it before it's too late. Thank you so much for showing it to us.
Wow... all things come to pass ! fantastic. A mate used to restore tudor buildings, I believe the infill with the reeds was horsehair and dung ! he also said the old oaks case harden in a fire and he has planed off the carbon and re instated many original beams along with new, lets hope like a phoenix it re emerges from the ruins, cheers man.
Someone torched my great grandmother huge Victorian. Soul scorching! Healed by believing it went to heaven with my ancestors.
O how sad!!!!! People today have no scruples and children r brought up to disrespect private property. So sorry for your loss. Hope u were able to get a pic before the destruction.
Shame as I love older houses including semi d’s up to the 80’s
If I lived in England, I'd buy that home in 2 seconds! I grew up in construction, and have a passion for archaeology. I'd restore it to it's original glory & decorate the same. Breaks my heart to see it so neglected. Stunning, beautiful, and breath taking......
Couldnt you come to England for a couple of years? Go Fund me & all that?
Да, я бы сделала то же самое.
Английские вандалы очень милы.
Вандалы в России украли бы все, а то что не смогли бы унести, сожгли. Осталось бы лишь то, что несмогло сгореть.
That isn't how it works in England. Historic homes are subject to numerous laws which restrict what you can and cannot do with these "listed" homes (and, surely, a Tudor mansion is a listed home). The older and more historic the home, the more restrictions are placed on what can and cannot be done, and how. You would have a better chance of obtaining a date with Charlize Theron than you would of actually being able to do what you say you want to do - even if you already owned it.
You must have a lot of money then
I live in a country where the oldest building are less than 250 years old..
To see this grand old heritage house reduced to this is so sad..
There are buildings late 1600 in the US.
@Bonnie Bagley that's a great point. Guess I should expand my thinking. Lol.
There's native architecture going back far further than that mate. But yeah, i guess the natives don't count, eh?
@@jeffreyrusselljr7713 there are two pueblo towns from the 11th century
@BastiatC yeah, I acknowledge I never even thought of the native structures including the Anasazi. That is a mistake I will not make again. I'm grateful for you and the comment above that opened my eyes to my euro centric thinking when it comes to America.
Amazing that it is only grade2 listed,so down the list of places to be cared for .It's actually only part of the original house. Captain Woolstoncroft ,the decendent of the original occupants was himself a piece of British history,He occupied the house for most of his life, leaving to join the Royal Marines, where he served for 19 years as a lieutenant, leading his men onto Gold Beach during the D-Day landings in June 1944.
After D-Day he spent a month in wartime France launching a series of daring operations on German positions before being shipped to the Far East.
While out in the Philippines and serving alongside the American Navy he lost 43 per cent of his skin when the engine on the Commando boat he was on exploded.
Despite suffering horrific injuries he re-enlisted in the Lancashire Fusiliers where he enjoyed an illustrious career before returning to Tonge Hall aged 45, where he lived until 2005.
He spent more than £100,000 restoring the house, which was devastated by fire in 2007.
Just goes to prove no-one gives a shit these days. Hero of WW2, gone and forgotten and now his beloved house has gone the same way. Restore it in memory of this brave man.
Thank you for the `info
Hi Martin, I am new and just subscribed . thank you for the historical research done on a mansion dated so far back to 1490 . the last occupant tried to restore it., and spent 100,000 only to have some real jerks set it to fire. And that's a shame. Keep them coming. Dottie from America
Was the Captain any relation to Mary Wollstonecroft Shelley?
Fascinating history. Thanks so much for sharing.
Such a shame to see a historic building in a state like this. The little scruffs who burned it down need their fingers breaking one by one 😡😡
More like there necks broken, disrespectful shites 😡
Shez Latic they need a trip to the woodshed, where someone with authority ought to lay stripes on them with a hickory switch, THEN they need their fingers broken one by one....slowly!!
Shez, looks like you are very much impressed by Saudis for chopping fingers😡😡
@@anthonytaylor3989
More like so called murican fundies just like you who don't know nothing about humanity and life.
Or we could just stop importing them by the boatload. Secure our nations, Westerners and Europeans.
Being from NZ I would be overwhelmed to see a house that old. Be happy to see an original 200 yr old building!
Great video. I always feel a sense of great sadness when I see these beautiful, historic buildings in such a state of disrepair. My mind always goes back to the original owners and the great sense of pride they must have felt living in this home. If they could see their home now, they would be full of grief. Thanks for sharing!
So good you did that. I'm so glad you did. I hope to goodness there shall be a successful restoration and protection of that treasure.
I should think a donation site could be set up to allow public support towards restoration. I hope something can be done.
some rich should buy the place and restore it with the supervision of english heritage.
SomeONE rich...
Simon Tay lol like the royal family.
@@jujubegold unfortunately then we never see it again or any part of it
I am an archaeologist and historian in the USA, and this is absolutely fascinating. Thank you for making this video, and I'm glad I found you. I would move to England in a heartbeat!
I'd move to the states in a heartbeat send address well swop😅😅😅
It needs to be dismantled and rebuilt at a specialised open air museum. This needs to be saved it’s a masterpiece in its own right. Great work Martin for documenting it.
The sadness of this hit me. Not only if the awful fire and damage, but of what this now most likely past gentleman had left behind of his once pride and joy. After seeing that photo of him you can just imagine him sitting in that chair. Now all that remains is the shell of what once was an incredibly modern building. Absolutely incredible
Although the damage from the fire is terrible, you can see exposed some of the oldest parts of the structure that had been covered by successive "remodelling". An amazing building! Thanks Martin.
Thanks very much Mike
Was that the wattle and daub wall for example?
@@fionaottley4976 looks like it, at 8:48. Also looks like you can see some later repairs with particle board over it.
😍
That fireplace mantle is gorgeous! The kitchen Hearth is Just Wow!
Wattle & Daub, Reid matting is Facinateing! The entire house is unbelievable.
What a Beautiful place.
beautiful choice of music and this Grand Old Lady is magnificent...thank you for preserving its history.. cheers from Canada..
Thank you Barbaranne
I did an archaeological survey in a similar medieval mansion where looters had tried to strip original features and sell them on. One morning as I was on my way to the site, I got a 'phonecall from a colleague who was laughing his rocks off so much I couldn't understand what he was calling about. When I arrived my friend ushered me to the main hall, and there in front of the fire was blood and a couple of teeth... from the look of it a looter entered the site and tried to use a crowbar to rip out the fireplace mantlepiece...he must have been enthusiastic because the mantlepiece was a prop leftover from a TV show and when he put pressure on the crowbar, the mantle broke and he hit himself in the face with his crowbar. My colleague got in contact with the local bobbies (who he was friends with) and they picked the guy up that afternoon as he sat in casualty waiting to have his lip and gum stitched back together. Nice.
It brings a tear to my eye when I think about someone setting fire to something so beautiful and old. To have stood the test of time for over 400 years, given shelter to countless families and been filled with so much love throughout history is magical all in its own. Thank you so much for sharing this amazing place with us.
i hate how people can do this, just burn down such a beautiful building, as a 17 yr old it makes us look super bad, while some people like me find this amazing and would love to preserve the building and photograph it never mind destroy it, sad they did that and hope they get punished
This country needs more like you young man 👨
Top teenager, you bring a ray of sunshine into this drug filled, social media orientated world. Keep it up, you'll go far👍
@@bobingram6912 thankyou
@@steviebaby2857 thanksss
Yeah its beyond belief what they did to 400 yrs of history
What satisfaction do they get out of setting fire to such beautiful history like that??
Have to say how much I'm enjoying working through all your videos. My maternal grandmother was born in Manchester in 1878, and came to Australia not long before WW1. She was full of stories of the Manchester she left, and kept her grand kids enthralled with those tales. Canals, boats and the working horses were a popular subject, and interestingly, she had a lifelong caution of water, as, without the detail, she let on that she had lost friends to drowning in the canals when she was young. Thanks to your videos, and the remnants of old Manchester that you portray, I can put a little colour and texture to those cherished childhood tales. Thanks for your efforts. Love this channel.
Well done for recording your visit. You've saved some knowledge for posterity for the venerable old place. Lets hope English Heritage and Rochdale council get their houses in order and sort something out here.
Another excellent production featuring a lovely building as you say sadly damaged by yob's.
You certainly excel at finding brilliant information and presenting it to your subscribers.
Looking forward to Medlock IX.
my gosh it's older than any building in New Zealand. I mean the trees would be growing at the time of estimated maori settlement. To know the history is amazing. Thank you.
Thank you
wow. i just found your channel on a MUDLOOD group searching for proof of the europian mudflood of the last couple centuries. this IS a mudflooder. bricked up windows in the basement, clasic sign. BUT... the reason i am impressed with your video, is a s i sayed, i just found your channel and i must speak out my respekt. great job on your cameratour! not to fast, not too slow, and realy letting the viewer soak in the atmosphier. great cinamatography! beutiful how you truely capture the esence of the lokation. i am thankful i found you. your passion to documentation is realy felt. i definatly subscribed and am looking forward to enjoying your video. greetings from germany
Thank you very much and Greetings to Germany
The most likely reason those windows were bricked up was because of the 'Window Tax' which wasfirst introduced in 1695. If we could have seen the other side of the window then maybe we could have seen if the level of the house was lower on that side or that there was steps leading down to that level which would then rule out the mudflood theory.
Great video Martin, thank you. I found it rather sad, a lovely place like that being allowed to rot away . Come on English Heritage make a move !
Its incredibly sad Steve
I know, how is it just sat there decaying? Im guessing it would cost a fortune to restore
This property is owned by Rochdale Borough Council
Imagine if those walls could speak, how many love stories, tragedies and secrets they could tell.
John K I was thinking the same as we went through this once beautiful home. I walls could talk!!
@@lindahh798 I love this house but sad truth is the Nobleman who lived hear would of treat the working class bad.
Restored that home would be a dream, where's the National Trust ? This is one of the rarest houses in the UK
Yes its an incredible place
Sad, but what a gem to look around. Wattle and daub, if walls could talk ............
Thanks for that Martin 😁.
Luke
Emotions were up up, at times, and down watching this one Martin.. it’s defo my favourite and the
music is perfect. Love from Dublin x
Thanks for the tour. It's a shame there are people who think nothing of destroying a piece of history like that.
Thank you Jacob
I'm subbed from this one alone! English history from a modern perspective. The hours in research boggle the mind. Well done sir.... Well done!
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed the video
Such a beautiful piece of history. So sad that not everyone treasures such beauty.
I hope that those that set the fire were caught and in jail.
That basement is really interesting. You don’t usually get subterranean window wells on British buildings. So perhaps the stone windows down there point to the earliest incarnation being built into the dry moat of a previous medieval moated manor. Just like Hopwood it would be great to have follow up videos, even if they were only short ones with the latest news.
Ok see what I can do. So far nothing has changed
All the beautiful fireplaces 😮 so sad it’s just rotting away like this!!
my town ! and I was at Moorclose from 81 to 83 so ,I think we must have been there at the same time I was in one of those prefabs out on the playing fields, , I also remember Tongue hall well, and there is so much more in Middleton, Ye Old Boars head, Ringebells,the Nowster,the moonraker stories, Warwick mill (right next to Moorclose) Saint Leonards Langley hall the Middleton Archers and if memory serves me well I believe there is a Knight buried at Saint Leonard's, Martin have been a fan of your videos for a long time keep it up brilliant
edit I have lived in Germany now 24 years so I love your videos of Manchester,takes me back
Yes I bet we were there at the same time
Very sad to see a lovely old historic house fall into ruin. I hope it will be restored.
You came up on my list, never seen any of your work. What a treat to start here! A stunning building so much history it must never be lost. How can those kids justify what they did. Thank you so much for filming the house. Off to watch some more of your videos yes I knows it’s nearly 3am here in uk but just one more video (she lied lol) thanks again.
Thanks very much
If it was kids...
this is the first martin zero video that slid into my “recommended for you” youtube home page. after watching so many more of his videos during my cancer treatment/recovery, i wanted to say thank you for sharing this high-quality content! maybe someday i’ll be able to come to manchester and see some of this for myself!
Martin one of the most difficult of your videos to watch: not because of your production but subject matter. Our Heritage Rots. RIP Captain Norman Wolstencroft (Royal Marines) landed in Normandy on D Day then severely injured in south east Asia. RiP Sir. Thanks Martin. X
Thanks for that info, makes it more poignant. A hero from D day and a soldier in the forgotten war and then forgotten by his country probably. Then he is replaced on this planet by a rock ape. As you say - RIP Sir and thank you
Thanks Tony
Thanks Tony, I would like to add this also.
An extract from the Manchester Evening news:
....
He occupied the house for most of his life, leaving to join the Royal Marines, where he served for 19 years as a lieutenant, leading his men onto Gold Beach during the D-Day landings in June 1944.
After D-Day he spent a month in wartime France launching a series of daring operations on German positions before being shipped to the Far East.
While out in the Philippines and serving alongside the American Navy he lost 43 per cent of his skin when the engine on the Commando boat he was on exploded.
Despite suffering horrific injuries he re-enlisted in the Lancashire Fusiliers where he enjoyed an illustrious career before returning to Tonge Hall aged 45, where he lived until 2005.
He spent more than £100,000 restoring the house, which was devastated by fire in 2007.
His son would like to see it restored for future children to see it.
@@oo0Spyder0oo The more I here of this man the more reason there is that his house should rise like a Phoenix from its ashes and act as a memorial to his bravery. We should not stand for this stupid act of wanton vandalism perpetrated by mindless vandals who would probably run a mile at the thought of fighting for their country.
Did you spot Martin's footage where he panned over the Royal Marines Royal Crest above a chimney place? Per Mare Per Terram; and for those that know me Per Ardua.
Thanks for posting this !!!! Try to hold tight to your history/identity. Here in America, we have lost our culture altogether.
My imagination takes over and I can see how beautiful and comfortable it once was. The chair beside the fireplace is where you’d find me with a good book and some tea.❤
Thank you for sharing this with us, it did also bring me to tears. You are bringing light to this beautiful home, hopefully it will now be taken care of properly.
The craftsmanship is just amazing.
Great video!
❤
Wow, this video is incredible...thank you Martin, and please don't stop looking for these treasures of architecture. In the U.S., to see a home that is 150 years old is remarkable...to be able to view this place, built in the Tudor period is absolutely magical. I so enjoyed seeing this, as sad as the state of it was...
Thanks very much
Fantastic as ever Martin! I’m certainly looking forward to seeing the next in the Medlock series. Thanks for your time and dedication 👍🏻
🇪🇪
It's a bloody shame that something so beautiful was nearly destroyed so completely by an act of vandalism or a freak accident. Thank you for taking the risk to film inside of this remarkable piece of history, especially when parts of it seem to be at the edge of crumbling
There is no love for our heritage anymore. It's the same in Dublin, where I live, old and beautiful buildings left to rot and then demolished and replaced with ugly monstrosities. How can anyone vandalise a beautiful house like this is beyond me. Love your videos, the more of them, the better!
Thank you very much Neil
What a sad, but lovely film.How can we let something so historic just decay? Thanks for this film, great as usual.
Thank you for showing us this, it was so interesting with all the details you pointed out. I hope it can be saved.
Thank you , glad you enjoyed
A beautiful tour of this structure, made with respect. Thank you for sharing it with us.
The music here is sheer beauty. I really get carried away, and even get Morricone vibes at times. Glorious.
Thanks very much
saw the notification, clicked, I´m watching right now and I already know, I won´t be dissappointed when the video is over :) Smashing that like button :)
I have just seen this wonderful clip you have done and, how sad and numbing that a group of people are quibbling over this historic building! That was stunning and so sad to see it like this! The history standing there to be seen! I really hope it can be saved!
I discovered this channel a few days ago ( thanks to recommended ) and watched a few videos now. Extremely impressed with the quality of the content and the knowledge and insight of the comments, excellent channel.
I absolutely enjoyed your video Martin. I also enjoy hearing the history of houses and different locations.
Very cool video! I am from the states, Michigan, and am a new subscriber! Looking forward to digging through your content a d learning more. I love England and plan an extensive trip when I retire in a few years. I will be a faithful follower and will learn as much as I can before my visit. I have a map of Great Britain with red circles around all the places I would like to see. Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much Robert. I hope you enjoy your trip
Lots of respect goes to you for the motivation and intention to show us a historically significant house of monument and do exceptional research. You are a great person for dedicating videos to teach us of historical buildings and tell us also the context behind them. I really appreciate the hard work! God bless.🙏🏻😊
Thank you Pawanpreet. Much appreciated
Wow. 😢So amazing.. I love watching and listen about historical places and info on old old old old places. To stand where they stood to walk where they walked , it’s beyond words. You’re so lucky. JustThank you so much! love from Austin Texas U.S.
So so so interesting!! Thank you for this video and old pictures!
Wow, what a rich history Tongue Hall has.
I really enjoyed the background you have given us. I often wonder about homes such as this the who, what ,when and why of the property. Thank you for being so thorough.
In ‘06 I traveled to Scotland and fell in love with the amazing architecture and old ruins. I’m from the west coast in the states and we consider a 100 year old house OLD as the hills so to see the history of Scotland was mind blowing. I just found your channel and am binge watching. You are a talented videographer and I really dig the music you put with your vids. I’m about the same age as you and we used to do some exploring when we were younger but this makes me want to go find someplace to explore lol.
Thank you very much. Really appreciate that 👍
A great video, thank you for preserving this beautiful house with this. The way it was shot allowed me to imagine the life that was lived there.
This was fascinating and so very well done.I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to document and share.Thank you,sir.
Thanks very much Candy
who would of thought theres something this interesting and spectacular just outside of Middleton, good video.
Thank you Martin, this was a really wonderful video. It always surprises and saddens me on how ignorant people are that vandalize these old buildings, whether you like the style of building or not, there is so much to appreciate in the workmanship and history of these buildings. I didn't realize till I had tears running down my face how much it touched me. Another absolutely brilliant and well done video, so glad you took the time to do this and share! Thanks again! ...Take care
Thanks very much, yes it was quite overwhelming being in there
Just you and me sitting in tears then? Even more sad when you read of the last owners WW2 exploits.
This place is just gorgeous. Wow how amazing that it is still standing after 400 yrs now. I love history and this has a lot of it. Thank you for sharing this. Have a great day
Oh the music! The perfect tune for this kind of video and I have watched these kinds of videos for years and always thought why have they not got this kind of music on. Great work and great place!
Thanks Isabella
On second thoughts, actually the bbc should hire you to create a tv series :)
I agree with u fantastic content
He's white and working class. They are trying to hire former largely because of right motives and not the latter because they just don't care about the white working class.
He's far too good for ordinary TV. Go Martin!
White straight male, no chance.
@@memofromessex How right you are, People go on about Black lives matter and Racism and here in Our own country we were treated like crap by the rich ourselves, working down the pit kids on looms etc working for pitance, everyone seems to forget this.
Should be turned into a museum.
I would live there and reenact those times in my tudors outfit.
Mail me when i can move in. :))
PS Don't forget the mrs, the mistresses and a couple of beautiful daughters and a son to hunt the estate with.
Beautiful but very sad video. I was deeply moved and upset by the destruction. So glad it has a preservation order.
Thank you Martin for sharing our rich and very valuable history that must be told to the younger generation.
I found you this morning and now a subscriber!
All the best now.
Martin, people like yourself, are a rare breed, in that your interest in history goes from the working classes to the gentry. The content of your vlogs, is absolutely fascinating & well researched, & without people like yourself, much would be lost to time. With regard to this story, it brings back memories to a time when I was a firefighter in the London Fire Brigade, stationed on the outskirts of North London during the late 70's & early 80's. We attended a fire in a building very similar to this one, which was severely damaged, but back then, there was no interest in saving them. It stood for a couple of years, but was demolished eventually & lost forever. Looking back, I wish I had the passion for history that I have today, as I was witness to a lot of lost architecture. Keep up the good work, my friend, & stay safe. Regards Rural Geeze.
Finally you did it again... can't believe it... another good no great video... Thanks for for this...
The problem every historian and archaeologist faces is that grey area which separates "This belongs in a museum" and being an outright grave robber or thief. When you see a brilliant piece of history that is underappreciated and will likely be destroyed or discarded, on one hand, we have a responsibility to preserve it for posterity and tell its story. On the other hand, we MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT be outright taking something that doesn't belong to us, but if it's going to be destroyed or forgotten anyway, is it really a crime? We're doing a service for the future!
For example, I was helping my buddy paint his grandparents beach house in New Jersey, USA one summer. In their attic, I found the complete collection of the Imperial War Commission's report on the Great War - probably 6 or 7 volumes, I forget, published in the 1920s. I asked my friend if I could "borrow" them. Of course he didn't realize their importance and said no, so when he was on the phone with his grandparents, I asked THEM if I could borrow some old books I found in their attic library.
"Oh, honey, take whatever you want! Nobody's looked at any of those books in ages!"
GOLDMINE.
And I knew - I KNEW - I could sell those books online, rare as they are - ORIGINAL PRINTS!!! - for quite the profit, but the historian in me said, "No. How many people have access to these books? (but we could make a lot of money!!) NO." and I contacted my old university professor and donated them to the university.
Sure, my methods might not have been exactly honorable, but the next summer, we were called down again to clear out the attic and SO MANY books from so long ago wound up getting thrown away.
I always say, when visiting a place of historic significance, "Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but memories, and appreciate everything," but sometimes...well...
Martin, how delightful of you to take the viewer on this journey to see the remnant of Tinge; the inglenook, the wattle and daub infill, the spider web as a window to what lay beyond....enchanting and thought provocative. Although a total loss, you showed us the interesting aspects of a house that evolved its final presentation, pre-cataclysm, through centuries of renovations, though the fire and degradation exposed the extent of these. Amazing tour for architecture and history buffs. Thank you - please humour us by wearing a construction safety hat on location! One with a miner's light ought to come in handy.
Too sad for words. American buildings are bult to be torn down wifhin 20 years or so anymore; to see it happen in a place with such history just hurts my heart.
Not necessarily true, we have buidings from the 1600s and quite a few from the 1700s still standing here in the US, and some are still lived in as private residences. Take time and visit places like Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York, New Jersey Pennyslvania and you will see these places. I worked with a guy who lived in a farmhouse in NJ that was built in 1742.
@@kman-mi7su
I live in New Jersey and my home is a heavy timber framed house over three hundred years old.
@@kevinchambers4848 Yeah, I was born and raised in NJ
So sad, my heart is crying out . Somebody save this poor old precious piece of your heritage, please please please ! A wattle ans daub tudor house, so beautifull,evenn still has its inglenook fireplace ...
So much appreciate your work bringing this amazing house to light. Hope it can be saved!
What an amazing video, I hope it gets enough attention and someone steps in to give the building the respect it deserves like you've given it in your video.
Wow, amazing and wonderful and also sad to see the house in this state. This is heritage and must be saved, shame this!
Thanks martin for another wonderful video!
It may have already been suggested but I feel this hall would be a grand spot for a paranormal investigation !!!!
Yeah,that wouldn’t be pointless...much...
Am sure if there is Ghosts they are here
Thanks Colin. Another great video. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for doing them.
Thanks very much for watching Colin
Delightful presentation and thank you for the perfect camera work so I didn't get dizzy watching. I really appreciate that. I am subscribing.
Thank you very much
A terrific video Martin. You're an absolute credit to the North West with your videos and I admire your appreciation of the value of history, changing times and the care and attention that those who went before us took in their contributions to our nation.
Thank you Harry much appreciated
So much amazing history here ! I live in Australia where we have no such history, not like this, I would be in awe of it, so sad to see it treated Like this.
What a stunning building even with the fire damage its still beautiful it defiantly needs restoring thanks for sharing x
This is fascinating absolutely both beautiful and sad. Here in the US we don't have things like this. I have always loved British History.
So Beautiful
What a place. Well done in getting this on Video. Seeing that wattle and daub is something else. Keep up the great work you do.
Thanks Rob
There are some picture on Google Images of this once beautiful place.
I just saw this 4/26/2022. This is exactly why my whole life I’ve dreamt of being a time traveler to the past. I’d give my eye teeth to see this when it was first built. And to see old growth/virgin forests. And so much more.
What a beautiful old house. It's criminal to let it just rot into dereliction. The original owners would be in tears if they could see it now. I so hope that someone is able to save it. It touched my heart a little bit when I saw that old photo in the frame on the table. The man in the picture had such a lovely smile. You still get the sense looking around the house now that this was a really happy home for many people. I so wish the house could talk, and perhaps share some of those memories with us. It would be a fascinating listen.
So,lumber from the Plantagenet reign. Is there nothing that can be saved or restored? Do people not care for their history, or do they not share in that history even?
We care but it would cost millions to restore and those of us who care do not have the money.