Lisle vs Lier? Disconnect Pliers are same but different. Factory high-grading? Day vs Night forging?
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- amzn.to/40Jw8MG Lisle vs Lier? Disconnect Pliers are same but different. Factory high-grading? Day vs Night forging? (sorry I misread the weights!)
Cheaper set on Amazon: amzn.to/40Jw8MG
Lisle straight jaw: amzn.to/4aJowhP
Lisle curved jaw: amzn.to/3Q0SmF5
Lisle pincer grip: amzn.to/3CxKbwO
I know I messed up the gram weights. I was use to my other balance. Sorry about that.
"Looks like they finished it during a car crash." 😂
You could buy the cheaper set and do your own finish grinding if you felt the need, but if they function equal to the more expensive, better finished tools, then why spend the extra money? When buying tools I take into consideration their intended use. Those tools aren't going to be abused because if you squeeze them until they bend or break you've destroyed the connector. So application matters. Buy higher quality when the job demands, but you can get away with the economical choice when they won't be used harshly. I also consider the price difference. If there is not that much of a savings with the cheaper ones I tend to go with the higher quality if it remains affordable. I've been looking at buying a set of those pliers. I have the Oslo tools disconnect pliers, but I like having different configurations because depending on the situation, one type might work better than another. I like having options. Great video. Thank you for posting.
Mine are Lisle and came in Lisle packaging..ive noticed subtle differences between "legit" Lisle disconnect pliers..
You're correct. Lisle is paying a premium for the "betters." Everyone else gets the "seconds"...
Lyles are not made in China they're made in Vietnam I have the packaging I have all three. China is known for knocking off everyone's stuff and reverse engineering it so wouldn't be surprising me one bit if they got a pair of lyles and just started making themselves in their own factory
I checked the packages the ones that look like beetlejaws like Mary's are made in Vietnam the other ones are actually made in China
@darrenporsch Merry...
Looks like both will get the job done to me. I do have a set from Temu that works just fine. Thanks for the comparison Doc
I would assume that the wide serrated ends of them were welded on, and then the welds were blended in. Hence why the cheaper ones aren't quite as well finished. I'd say they were probably main the same place and the cheaper ones are ones that didn't pass the rigorous QC standards in China !
Many years ago, I was a lisle distributor, great company, and they wll take care of their warranties.
Just sucks that a lot of lisle is not made in USA anymore.
I think you are right. I think they are either quality control rejects or the factory makes higher quality versions for the Lisle order. I personally dont like these pliers. They almost never work in majority of situations. I mainly work fleet on Ford Econoline and Transit Connect buses. I only pull them out when I cant get the connector apart with my fingers or a screwdriver. I bought mine from JDTco who also claimed he gets his pairs from the same factory as Lisle. JDTco has different color dipped handles.
Funny I sold two pairs of non Lisle pliers today on facebook. The finish is really bad. I was wondering whether the real Lisle pliers are way better. Your video is very informative. The Lisle ones aren’t much better. I’m not touching these pliers. BYW, the ones I got, the straight one is also spring loaded
I do like having those beetle jaw pliers with me when I do computer or electrical work. For visibility and for working on things behind other wires, they're pretty fantastic. Can't speak for the other pliers (I don't work on cars).
It would be awesome if they got a slip joint added, eh?
The Lisles aren’t made in China. More likely there’s a Chinese company ripping off the design.
I have a pair of the regular Lisle electrical disconnect pliers which work okay, but recently got a pair of Olsa Tools electrical disconnect pliers and I always reach for the Olsa pliers first now
I wonder if it is a quality control thing, all the pliers that don't cut it get sold cheaper under a different seller. I really like lisle so I got the real ones
I would bet your thinking is spot on , the liars are basically 2nds
The folks at Lisle are nice to deal with ! I think I have spoken to Jill .
The packaging on 2 of the 3 Lisle pliers shown say Made in Vietnam
I bought some blue handled ones. And they work just aswell but the grinds are different and there is slop in the rivet area... I've been going back and forth on buying the legit ones
I've tightened up sloppy pliers rivets with a drift punch and a hammer. It's pretty doable. But when you do it you will probably dent the face of the rivet. So there will be cosmetic damage. you need to put the pliers on some kind of an anvil. My best advise if you try it is start out not hitting it too hard. Because you can make the pliers so they won't move at all. Work your way up to the feel you're looking for. There's no unpunch tool. I always punch them on the moving side.
I have the Lilse versions, but for what purpose they serve, I don't think it matters which version you have lol.
Might coulda showed us how they worked.
Lisle Disconnect Disappointment...again! A blown opportunity but an easy fix. Regrinding experiment.
ruclips.net/video/cGYn7Aa-t_c/видео.html
Finally Connecting: Disconnect Plier Roundup. Similar but different. Merry for the win!
ruclips.net/video/pdLEWOjkzKU/видео.html
I think you called it right,the Lisle pile and 2nd quality pile! They’re really too similar!
I'm not sure they came out of the same factory. I would say its just as likely a Chinese firm has access to the same machinery and materials in their plant(s) and simply straight up copied the processes to mirror the Lisle pliers. For online sales advantages its using a rougher, more quickly made (ie less time on finishing), and cheaper production approach - and just slaps the same parts number on their products to confuse consumers and imply they came from the same manufacturer.
I premise this on that countless folks online will contend Harbor Freight's Icon hand tools are made in the same plants as Snap On - and thus buys them and believe/argue they are the same tool(s) with slight tweaks.
Just sand and buff everything down and hit em with some cold blue.
That's the way it looks to me. The cheap tools are blems. Factory seconds. Which if you're using the tool all day long then maybe you want the best. But those tools look like using them sporadically to me. So as long as the el cheapos do the job then good enough. Some of them burrs on the crappy one maybe you'd want to touch it up?
You think they might be seconds that they resell on the secondary market.
You're theory sounds very plausible. I just wish Lisle would put their name on their tools which makes me wonder what their marketing strategy is.
This is so weird. I bought these two days ago and yeah, they'll work just fine but the fit&finish suggests they're factory seconds. Note: I opened and closed the strait ones thousands of times while watching a movie and now they flop open beautifully. If you're in the market for Chinese tools, get them before Tuesday.
There's an irony to the idea that someone could probably import these unfinished/ground without handle coatings or a spring. And either sell them like that as a DIY finish it yourself product or find a stateside company to do the final steps with better fit/finish and nicer grips and market those as US manufacturered with global materials.
I agree with your theory that the same factory produces both of these tools but the “branded “ tools are the ones that look better. It opens up a can of worms and possibly exposes the truth when companies talk about products being manufactured to their specifications.
Lisle tools are made in Clarinda, Iowa, United States
A massive amount of their tools are made in China
@@johnnyolson258 everything I bought was USA made
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These are for tubes and hose?
I tend to agree with your assessment that the "vowel soup" brand ones look like factory seconds on the Lisle branded pliers. Rougher machining, poor finishing. The Chinese have essentially zero respect for intellectual property, so they'll make some little sacrificial LLC, sell a few thousand of the low-grade units until they get sued and then create a new sacrificial lamb LLC and continue on unabated.
They ain't going to get sued. That's not how they operate. All we can do is seize counterfeit goods in customs. You'd have to pack them tools with fentanyl before they're going to bother with them though. Maybe if they were Louis Vuitton pliers.
The Lisle ones are made in India
quality control rejects which are still good enough to sell. a tale as old as time...
This could all be avoided if lisle would actually stamp their name on tools like every other half reputable manufacturer. Thats why I have a love hate with them, good stuff but no way to differentiate the stuff between any other no name
Lisle same owners but not the same company Grampa used for Automotive work. Penny pinch to not even brand your tools...? Shame shame. Old man Lisle rolling over in his grave.
They are all trash tbh. People went crazy over them, but they are a pile of hot garbage. The latest version is definitely the best of the 3, but is still trash compared to the Merry disconnect pliers. The new Merry versions are even better. Those Lisle versions are nearly useless. I don't know why they get any kind of praise. I gave them a fair shot and gave them the benefit of the doubt time and time again. If you've got all the room in the world, these will work, but 80% of the time you don't have space like that. FAIL!!!
I agree so much, lol. Lisle tools run the gamut on quality from crap to meh to not terrible. These tools are the kind of tool designed to "catch fishermen, not fish." I work almost exclusively on 12V automotive and deal with connectors a lot, and these are not any more helpful than a set of Knipex Cobras, IME, with the added ability to crush aged plastic.
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Are you joking? You don’t video actually using them? What a terrible video! Useless.