I once got to see Carol Burnett in one of her live performances, in Santa Rosa, CA. It was one of the greatest experiences of my life. She told all these amazing stories about her life and the cast of the Carol Burnett Show. I even got to ask her a question. I asked, "When they make the movie of your life, and they will, who will play you?" Without missing a beat, she replied, "Michelle Pfeiffer!". I can't wait to see that movie.
I bet she was at the Wells Fargo Center for the Performing Arts. I live 10 miles to the south; but unfortunately, I didn't hear about her coming to Santa Rosa, or I would have loved to have gone to see her, as well. She is an amazing person, yes indeed! Thanks for sharing your experience! (Aug., '24)
Abe doesn't get too many glowing references in this comment section, but to be fair, at 20:20 ,he does sound genuine in his support for Carol Burnett's beauty and singing ability.
Well, here I am. Nothing against her, she seems to be a nice person. But I really couldn't take her comedy, always turned the channel. Same reaction to Red Skelton.
@@bogieviews We all have our own personal tastes and opinions and we all have famous and popular people we are not fans of. Personally, I never liked Woody Allen or Steve Martin. Never heard anything by either of them I enjoyed.
Chiedu Egbuniwe Not only pretty, but she has charme, and that's more important. There's been lot of "beauties" of both sexes on this show, but not all of them had "it"...
SuperWinterborn Carol & Arlene are two of my favorite ladies. Carol was very pretty and sweet. Still is. I still love watching clips of Carol Burnett Show and the Garry Moore Show. Shame that there are not many of Garry Moore Show kinescopes exist.
John Smith Bob Banner Associates (who produced it for CBS) has nearly the complete archive of the nighttime Garry Moore show; they have released selected episodes over the past few years.
Burrows is a pain and smoked all through the show, he is always like that, When Charlie Parker was on TV his wife complained about Burrows, what a ASS. He grabbed Burnett's head to kiss her. Last guest last name GOD ? DECEMBER 17TH 1961 I turned 31. I always watched this show at 10:30 PM Sunday night as a teenager and years later too. These days when I can't sleep I get to relive the past and watch these shows again and there are so many of them to enjoy. THANKS FOR POSTING THESE CLASSICS.
I do much the same. I found this an it is like an escape to a better time than now. Not to say at that time things were perfect, but a FAR cry from what is now. Enjoy these immensely. Especially when I can't sleep. ❤
@@bogieviews I just watched his antics for the first time, and you said exactly what I was beginning to feel about this guy. I hope he never was asked back to the program.
Carol Burnett was and is very attractive. The 1960's were pretty rigid when it came to women and if you didn't look like Elizabeth Taylor or Marilyn Monroe then you weren't considered a beauty in Hollywood. It's different now.
According the log I'm using, 4 times, two already posted: 5/7/61, 12/17/61, and [not posted] 2/16/64 and 3/20/66 (which I don't yet have a copy of). She was-- as pointed out by soulierinvestments elsewhere-- one of the very few mystery guests who appeared twice in the same year.
It bothered me that John did not correct Carol. I always thought that she was very attractive. Thank goodness the first thing out of Bennett's mouth was "What do you mean, you're not a beautiful girl?" Although John did say those wonderful and very true remarks after Bennett's statement.
I agree. Sadly, this was a different era when women where usually judged by their looks. I hope America today isn't slipping back to that kind of thinking.
Dear swampzoid, Hollywood has improved somewhat. I so enjoy the English TV shows. Their actors actually look like every day people. No stretched faces, no perfect teeth. Just wonderful acting.
Craig Willis Hi Craig, I would buy that except when other guest were asked the question John ALWAY quickly jumped in and said yes. I watched all of them until shortly after Dorthy was no longer with us. Miss Burnett is beautiful inside and out. Happy viewing.
Carol's beauty surpasses description when she is animated. She looks how everyone wants to feel, all warmth and charm that connects with something inside every person's better angel. No beauty queen ever looked as inviting as she. And sexy, god yes. No ear tug this time from Carol. She did one on her last appearance, which wasn't all that long ago, chronologically speaking.
She's not a classic beauty in the Sophia Loren sense, but it's just as John Daly said--- there's an extremely positive and animated spirit within her that can't help but illuminate everything around her. But would I prefer her as a lover and a mate over Sophia Loren? An unqualified Hell, yes, I would.
My 5th birthday! It is so good to see these as my parents didn't let us stay up late on Sunday until I was 6 or 7. I know that sounds young, but my Mom believed WML would be a really good influence on us, especially compared to what else was on. I wish I could have stayed up to watch Jack Paar. WML...you have been so good at getting these shows up on RUclips, your next assignment, if you choose to accept it is to find kinescopes (or tapes!) of the Jack Paar Tonight show. My Mom always watched The Tonight Show. But until she died she always said she preferred Jack Paar.
I know, right!? I HATE when they ask (it's usually Bennett who does it, pretty regularly too) a woman if she's "a very beautiful girl" and with Ursula Andress he commented on "does she have a famous chassis ?" It's just so dreadful.
I think what Cerf might have meant is if her beauty plays a dominant role in her profession, like a model or a glamour actress. I could be completely wrong though.
@@notsure6187 Regardless, it is an incredibly shallow, crude and rude thing to say, and thank God we're moving away from this, at least socially if not realistically. These attitudes are why young girls have eating disorders and spend their whole paycheck on trying to focus only on their physical beauty and are empty headed, paranoid about their weight and appearance, depressed and anxious.
So many times, John has intervened on behalf of a modest guest to say that she was, indeed attractive, I expected him to do that here. I'd never heard of 'God' as a last name.
Back in the day there were only certain looks for women to be considered pretty Ms Burnett's look was outside that standard. Today most of us have a more flexible beauty standard for all.
Gil Fates noted in his book on WML that it had a sort of hard fast rule that one could appear as a mystery guest once a year. WML stuck to that regulation pretty well, but some notable exceptions come to mind. In 1965, Lucille Ball appeared as mystery guest twice. And in 1961, Carol Burnett appeared twice -- once in May, and once here.
Carol Burnett had a rather rough childhood with an alcoholic father and mother but fortunately had a wonderful grandmother who really raised her. From everything I have read and heard about her she is very down to earth and a fantastically kind human being. I know I have loved her ever since I first saw her on television in the early 1960s...
beforeourveryeyes had asked in the comments section of an earlier episode (May 21, 1961) about whether Arlene ever wore the same dress more than once on the show. The dress she has on here -- long dark evening gown with fur trim -- is one I had replied that I had seen her wear at least twice before, so this is at least her 3rd time wearing it on WML.
Well Hal Block tried to kiss Bette Davis - she clearly was not comfortable and I don't think Carol was especially comfortable when Abe Burrows kissed her.
Can someone explain this to me? When John clearly says: We're short of time,...why do some of the panelists ask silly, unrelated, time-consuming irrelevent questions? Arlene sometimes does it, Dorothy rarely does as she's quite professional, but Bennett once again has to ask questions like clarification of where they're from and what area it's near and goes on to yammer about what that area is famous for. I'd think by now they'd be prepped on how to question when under that last person time constraints. That poor 3rd contestant is always under time limits anyway to poor time management, I feel so bad for them.
Don't be hard on Bennett Cerf for his clarifications and probing questions. As a publisher, he knows quite a bit about A LOT of stuff. I've seen episodes where he knows an obscure town's most important business. There is an adage that is applicable here, and I'll bet if Mr Cerf were alive, he'd agree with this hometruth: "Your intuition will never waste your time".
They all do this. There is tension between Daly, who is understandably trying to move the proceedings along, and the panelists, who are trying to keep the spotlight on themselves for just that extra moment. Daly usually keeps things moving with tact and good humor, with occasional lapses into extended verbosity. Dorothy will break down a question into 3 or 4 micro-questions that don't get her closer to guessing the person's occupation. Arlene also does a version of this. Bennett interjects irrelevant information about his social life into the questions: "Did I have dinner with you in the Hamptons 2 nights ago?" For years, they wasted time with the perp walk and free guesses until the producers finally got rid of these time wasting procedures.
@@19gregske55 Bennett Cerf may know "...quite a bit about a lot of STUFF," but when he made a comment in another episode regarding California as "being near the water," I went into a writing rampage in the "Comments" section. I have lived in California since 1961, and it's now 2024; and the Pacific Ocean serves as the "western edge" of the state, but California is more than just water, or being beside the water. It has numerous and impressive mountain ranges, including the highest mountain in the continental United States, Mount Whitney, at 14,566.6 ft.; and there is the massive Mojave Desert, located, in part, in the largest county in the United States, San Bernardino County; and there are inland agricultural valleys and the piedmont plains where agriculture thrives. And it has the most productive agricultural region anywhere in the world, the Great Central Valley, comprising of the Sacramento Valley and the San Joaquin Valley, as one valley, running north-south for about 400 miles in the inland region of California; and on and on and on. So the one thing I noticed about folks like Bennett Cerf--and with respect to where they live, they are very poor in a lot of geography west of New York!
It might be attributed to the blind folds. When one sense is hindered our abilities are distorted. I thought the same thing about Debbie Reynolds many appearances as her answers go on and on but the panel doesn't recognize the pattern. It has to be the masks.
Sspirales De Creacion I think she's just chronically nervous. A perfectionist. Announcing something to camera appears to be one of the nerveracking things for her. The sneeze episode, on the other hand, was something quite different again!!
Jane Patterson She doesn't suffer with allergies once all her introductions are over though! I personally think she gets terrible stagefright which eases as the game gets going. She feels safe then. Other than that she's a nervous type. Her appearance as the mystery guest some episodes ago she was actually SHAKING and Daly had to hold her hand. She's an introvert I think.
Where we've come (I won't say "progressed") in 61 years. The cat calls when the pretty contestants show up now seems over the top. But back then it was considered a compliment and generally the women accepted it as such.
Carol's name title was produced with a hand-lettering system the program had on-hand, which suggests Carol got this unusual gig as a last minute replacement for someone who had been scheduled but had to back out. Or maybe the staff just had a hard time finding anyone available that 17 December . . . . At one point, the first nighttime Password featuring Carol Burnett and Garry Moore was available on RUclips.
Given the comments early in the show by John Daly and a couple of the panelists about the snow in New York at the time, Carol Burnett probably was, indeed, a last-minute fill-in as Mystery Guest for whoever was scheduled but couldn't make it to New York in time because of the weather.
It looks as though the superimposed Carol Burnett title was made with the sort of sign board once common in hotels etc to show what group was meeting where...individual white plastic letters, each with a tab on the back that fitted into horizontal slots of a corrugated black fabric backing. The shape of the letters is distinctive, especially the corners cut at a 45 degree angle rather than being rounded.
Although about 20 months older, Chalmers "Bump" Elliott is still living as of 8/23/18 while his brother Pete passed away in January 2013 at age 86. "Bump" had a winning record as a head coach while Pete did not. However, Pete made it to the Rose Bowl twice (once for California and once for Illinois, losing the first and winning the second), while "Bump" only made it once for Michigan (a win). if they were coaching today with the proliferation of bowl games and with the removal of restrictions of teams in the Big 10 and Pacific Coast Conference going to games other than the Rose Bowl, they would have had more bowl appearances. "Bump" was able to get the best of Pete in their head to head match ups, winning all four including handing Illinois its only loss of the season when the went to the Rose Bowl. In the 1962 season, the first one following their WML appearance, both coaches had 2-7 records. But Illinois went to the Rose Bowl the following season and Michigan the season after that.
Although the styles are similar, I like Carol Burnett's hair much better in this episode than when she was on in May. The main reason is that it is a softer look IMHO.
After watching Burroughs in a few episodes.. I don't think his intention was to be funny.. so much as this was just his usual style and manner of speaking. But in front of an audience who Did find it funny and charming, it seemed to dawn on him that: "Heyy.. I may be on to something here." He seems to have gotten quite a kick out of how the audience was responding to him, which made it all the more fun. Either way, I always get a kick out of his appearances.
I have enjoyed these programs since childhood in the 50s, but it is rather sad that none of Dorothy's friends ever questioned her death or the bogus coroner's report, which was controlled at the time by the mafia.
This has to be one of the most funny episodes in WML history. . . . for all the wrong reasons. Abe Burrows wrote some of the best Broadway shows of that period; he was a great writer -- but what were he and Dorothy using that night? He seemed tasked to string together one sentence after another.
Wow 15:18 she is SO UP for a conference and looks RATHER sorry when she didn't get one!!! Daly looks quite relieved to get that segment over without a conference in fact! Maybe I'm being over-imaginative but she seems rather needy of attention and may have been a little too flirtacious backstage before appearing so Daly kept a disciplined distance. Maybe. :)
I have visited a lot of colleges along the eastern seaboard from New Hampshire to North Carolina. And I visited a few college on the west coast in the SF Bay area. But I have only visited two colleges in the U.S. in the heartland. Ironically one was U of Michigan and the other was U of Illinois. Two of my college classmates (identical twins) were getting their doctorates in Ann Arbor, and another of my college classmates got his doctorate in Champaign-Urbana. This was in the mid-1970's, By this time "Bump" was Athletic Director at U of Iowa and Pete was AD at U of Miami.
I'm sure Mr. Burrows was great at whatever he did, but he simply irritated me on this show. Had he not ever seen the show before or did he not care about looking dumb? Anyway don't mean to be harsh but just rubbed me the wrong way I guess!
Tom Klock - You are so right. He was a good comedy writer. He needed to stick with that. He was one of those guest panelists, like Groucho & Uncle Miltie & Victor Borge, who did not understand this show is not about them and they need to serve the overall game. He took way too much time in the spotlight without moving the game along or being hilarious about something a la Steve Allen.
Miss Loraine Wilson (Monkey cage builder), while being undeniably gorgeous, carries herself with incredible poise, modesty and class. Those qualities are sorely missing in today's diva-worshiping culture.
Abe Burrows was kind of a doofus imho…especially when he planted a big, sloppy kiss on Carol as she exited..which she tried to avoid…I’m sure too the other panelists must’ve appreciated his lighting up a ciggie and blowing smoke in their faces…what a different time that was…
I'll never get used to (a) all these years and they couldn't afford a 2nd seat or even a bench and forced two people to share a chair. A chair? How much can a single chair cost? Also (b) the poor third contestant is brushed off in such a hurry, and I always look at John's eyes and he's constantly watching the clock trying to rush, rush, rush things along. That poor guest, all dressed up and drove there for 60 seconds of airtime or whatever. They should have had a clock displayed for the panelists so they could judge their time. Some of them wasted precious time trying to pause for laughter or make a joke, even after John clearly stated, "Panel, we're short of time." You'd think that would give them a giant clue, no?
Oh please, we've been through this a thousand times. There were reasons why there was only one (wide) chair for contestants, primarily due to camera angle and mic placement.
That was an interesting closing remark by Johnny Olsen .. not selling anything, asking for donations or help for some cause ... just to be optimistic ..
No need to feel sorry, they all smoked. In the early days of the show, Arlene smoked on camera, as did John Charles Daly. Back then smoking was believed to be glamorous and sophisticated, and by some, touted as being healthy. We know better now.
@@juanettebutts9782 smoking was very acceptable in those days. Doctors did cigarette commercials promoting specific brands. Smoking wasn't offensive until smoking became associated with health risks. I believe Arlene smoked in her first episode of WML. During those days and in to the 1970's smoking was seen often in restaurants, food stores, department stores, etc. NO ONE COMPLAINED. That came later too.
What about the three from 1961 that you said you just got? Also, I'll be sure to point out which episodes you're missing as we go along. Whether it'd be ones GSN has shown, or has never shown but does exist among collectors, or are lost to the ravages of time.
***** Did I specify three from 1961 at some point? I'm really asking, because I couldn't tell you how many unposted shows I have offhand now, and I honestly don't remember specifying before. To be clear, I definitely do have some older missing shows to fill in, but just haven't had a chance to sort it all out yet. I may post some of these shows that we've gone past already over the next couple of weeks, while I take a short break from the new episodes. Too busy on another project and I've fallen way behind the postings in watching the shows myself!
***** Looking over my log, the only show from 1961 that I don't have a copy of at this point is the Michael Redgrave 12/10/61 show you just asked about Any other missing 1961 shows are because I got them recently and haven't posted them yet. If you have a list handy of which others are missing from 1961, that would be a big help. I'd appreciate it.
What's My Line? The two other missing 1961 episodes are March 5 (Genevieve mystery guest) and March 12 (Ritz Brothers mystery guests). Thanks for downloading!
I watch this show to see what that ladies are wearing! Same thing for To Tell the Truth," especially to see what Kitty wore... Those LADIES knew class!
Why are there two programs (May 7 / 1961 and Dec 17 /1961) with Carol Burnett? she answers the questions with the same voice in both programs, was it completely fixed?
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In my eyes Carol Burnett is very pretty and very talented! Loved watching her shows with my mom! I miss those nights more than ever!
I know. She was very pretty.
Carol Burnett -- so genuine and so talented. How I adored her during this rise to stardom period.
I once got to see Carol Burnett in one of her live performances, in Santa Rosa, CA. It was one of the greatest experiences of my life. She told all these amazing stories about her life and the cast of the Carol Burnett Show. I even got to ask her a question. I asked, "When they make the movie of your life, and they will, who will play you?" Without missing a beat, she replied, "Michelle Pfeiffer!". I can't wait to see that movie.
I bet she was at the Wells Fargo Center for the Performing Arts. I live 10 miles to the south; but unfortunately, I didn't hear about her coming to Santa Rosa, or I would have loved to have gone to see her, as well. She is an amazing person, yes indeed! Thanks for sharing your experience! (Aug., '24)
Abe doesn't get too many glowing references in this comment section, but to be fair, at 20:20 ,he does sound genuine in his support for Carol Burnett's beauty and singing ability.
I know we all have our individual taste, and to each his or her own and all that, but I just can't see why anyone wouldn't love Carol Burnett.
Well, here I am. Nothing against her, she seems to be a nice person. But I really couldn't take her comedy, always turned the channel. Same reaction to Red Skelton.
@@bogieviews We all have our own personal tastes and opinions and we all have famous and popular people we are not fans of. Personally, I never liked Woody Allen or Steve Martin. Never heard anything by either of them I enjoyed.
I'm glad the guys corrected Carol Burnett and told her that she is a very pretty girl- because she was!
Chiedu Egbuniwe Not only pretty, but she has charme, and that's more important. There's been lot of "beauties" of both sexes on this show, but not all of them had "it"...
SuperWinterborn Carol & Arlene are two of my favorite ladies. Carol was very pretty and sweet. Still is. I still love watching clips of Carol Burnett Show and the Garry Moore Show. Shame that there are not many of Garry Moore Show kinescopes exist.
John Smith Bob Banner Associates (who produced it for CBS) has nearly the complete archive of the nighttime Garry Moore show; they have released selected episodes over the past few years.
Me too, that was rude as hell.
Carol Burnett is sooo pretty I really never saw any pictures of her in younger years but she is really cute .
Burrows is a pain and smoked all through the show, he is always like that, When Charlie Parker was on TV his wife complained about Burrows, what a ASS. He grabbed Burnett's head to kiss her. Last guest last name GOD ? DECEMBER 17TH 1961 I turned 31. I always watched this show at 10:30 PM Sunday night as a teenager and years later too. These days when I can't sleep I get to relive the past and watch these shows again and there are so many of them to enjoy. THANKS FOR POSTING THESE CLASSICS.
Yeah, he is trying to keep attention on him. Apparently that was important to him.
I do much the same. I found this an it is like an escape to a better time than now. Not to say at that time things were perfect, but a FAR cry from what is now. Enjoy these immensely. Especially when I can't sleep. ❤
@@bogieviews I just watched his antics for the first time, and you said exactly what I was beginning to feel about this guy. I hope he never was asked back to the program.
Carol Burnett was and is very attractive. The 1960's were pretty rigid when it came to women and if you didn't look like Elizabeth Taylor or Marilyn Monroe then you weren't considered a beauty in Hollywood. It's different now.
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Fun episode! I wonder how many times Carol Burnett appeared. This wasn't her first. She always got a warm reception (well deserved).
According the log I'm using, 4 times, two already posted: 5/7/61, 12/17/61, and [not posted] 2/16/64 and 3/20/66 (which I don't yet have a copy of). She was-- as pointed out by soulierinvestments elsewhere-- one of the very few mystery guests who appeared twice in the same year.
It bothered me that John did not correct Carol. I always thought that she was very attractive. Thank goodness the first thing out of Bennett's mouth was "What do you mean, you're not a beautiful girl?"
Although John did say those wonderful and very true remarks after Bennett's statement.
Yes, I was disappointed that John didn't offer an objection, too. A similar thing happened in a later episode with Peggy Cass as mystery guest.
Thanks I'll keep an eye out for it. I always enjoyed Peggy Cass.
I agree. Sadly, this was a different era when women where usually judged by their looks.
I hope America today isn't slipping back to that kind of thinking.
Dear swampzoid, Hollywood has improved somewhat. I so enjoy the English TV shows. Their actors actually look like every day people. No stretched faces, no perfect teeth. Just wonderful acting.
Craig Willis Hi Craig, I would buy that except when other guest were asked the question John ALWAY quickly jumped in and said yes. I watched all of them until shortly after Dorthy was no longer with us. Miss Burnett is beautiful inside and out. Happy viewing.
Carol's beauty surpasses description when she is animated. She looks how everyone wants to feel, all warmth and charm that connects with something inside every person's better angel. No beauty queen ever looked as inviting as she. And sexy, god yes. No ear tug this time from Carol. She did one on her last appearance, which wasn't all that long ago, chronologically speaking.
I have been watching a lot of Password recently, between 62 and 67. Loved all the times Carol B was on. Such a funny lady!
I looked up Carol Burnett on Wikipedia and was surprised to discover that she's still living at the age of 88.
She recently celebrated her 90th Birthday.
Carol Burnett is too modest: She was a very attractive lady!
+Lava1964 She still is, she is not dead.
+shelley annette I think her goods looks have dwindled with age--as they do with all of us. That's what I meant by "was a very attractive lady.".
Indeed, I have always thought of Carol as a major babe.
She's not a classic beauty in the Sophia Loren sense, but it's just as John Daly said--- there's an extremely positive and animated spirit within her that can't help but illuminate everything around her. But would I prefer her as a lover and a mate over Sophia Loren? An unqualified Hell, yes, I would.
My 5th birthday! It is so good to see these as my parents didn't let us stay up late on Sunday until I was 6 or 7. I know that sounds young, but my Mom believed WML would be a really good influence on us, especially compared to what else was on. I wish I could have stayed up to watch Jack Paar. WML...you have been so good at getting these shows up on RUclips, your next assignment, if you choose to accept it is to find kinescopes (or tapes!) of the Jack Paar Tonight show. My Mom always watched The Tonight Show. But until she died she always said she preferred Jack Paar.
So this post from May 28th comes to my box on 10/20/14. sup dat?
Aw bless carol she is pretty!!....someone needs to tell her that you can be funny and pretty and have brains 🧡
I had a crush on Carol Burnett, when I was a teenager.
Awe, that was so sad! What a stupid question to ask, "are you a pretty girl?" and Carol said no!! Carol, you are beautiful, OMG!
I know, right!? I HATE when they ask (it's usually Bennett who does it, pretty regularly too) a woman if she's "a very beautiful girl" and with Ursula Andress he commented on "does she have a famous chassis ?" It's just so dreadful.
And usually John corrects them. I felt so bad for her.
I think what Cerf might have meant is if her beauty plays a dominant role in her profession, like a model or a glamour actress. I could be completely wrong though.
@@notsure6187 Regardless, it is an incredibly shallow, crude and rude thing to say, and thank God we're moving away from this, at least socially if not realistically. These attitudes are why young girls have eating disorders and spend their whole paycheck on trying to focus only on their physical beauty and are empty headed, paranoid about their weight and appearance, depressed and anxious.
SHES GORGEOUS!!!!!!
Carol Burnett......I never missed a show...A comic genius...Great actress as well.Still around in 2024.
"Are you a very pretty girl?"
Wow, what a question! Read the bio on Carol Burnett...emphasis on comments from her mother about her looks
Carol is a very beautiful woman.
Do you remember her when she appeared on "Magnum" , What a hoot!!:-):-):-):-):-)
Carol ! You're beautiful!
So many times, John has intervened on behalf of a modest guest to say that she was, indeed attractive, I expected him to do that here.
I'd never heard of 'God' as a last name.
I would love to be Carol Burnett's friend!
John Daly wasn't very gallant when Burnett was asked about being "pretty." HE should have said she was.
"Pretty" I would not say she is, but, as Mr Daly said once they guessed her, she is beautiful in the physical and in other ways.
Back in the day there were only certain looks for women to be considered pretty Ms Burnett's look was outside that standard. Today most of us have a more flexible beauty standard for all.
Gil Fates noted in his book on WML that it had a sort of hard fast rule that one could appear as a mystery guest once a year. WML stuck to that regulation pretty well, but some notable exceptions come to mind. In 1965, Lucille Ball appeared as mystery guest twice. And in 1961, Carol Burnett appeared twice -- once in May, and once here.
Since she was on CBS, and promoting a new game show for the producers, it's understandable that they made the exception.
Carol was waaay too modest! Shame her mother made her feel less than, always thought Carol was cute, especially right here
Carol Burnett had a rather rough childhood with an alcoholic father and mother but fortunately had a wonderful grandmother who really raised her. From everything I have read and heard about her she is very down to earth and a fantastically kind human being. I know I have loved her ever since I first saw her on television in the early 1960s...
beforeourveryeyes had asked in the comments section of an earlier episode (May 21, 1961) about whether Arlene ever wore the same dress more than once on the show. The dress she has on here -- long dark evening gown with fur trim -- is one I had replied that I had seen her wear at least twice before, so this is at least her 3rd time wearing it on WML.
I've seen it about 5 or 6 times--am watching these in chronological order.
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And that's a travesty! She should have never been allowed on the program again!
I love Arlene!
Abe Burrows reminded me of Hal Block a bit.
Carol is adorable
Carol. Truly amazing :-)
Carol Burnett you are very beautiful ❤️
Throughout my life many people have told me I look a bit like Carol Burnett. I think that is a complement.
It is 😊
At about 18:13 Bennett asks a question and at least on my computer, the film slips. Was it me or the film?
It's not just you.
Something about Abe Burrows reminds me of Hal Block.
THAT'S who he reminds me of lol
Also there's a lor of Louis Untermeyer
@Lars Rye Jeppesen. Me too and not in a positive way. He tried too hard to be funny and he just looked foolish.
@@lynettepalecek3141 Totally agree. Super cringe.
Well Hal Block tried to kiss Bette Davis - she clearly was not comfortable and I don't think Carol was especially comfortable when Abe Burrows kissed her.
Abe Burrows is one of the most annoying members. Hogging the screen time and long pauses for attention. Urgh.
Yeah. It's obvious that he was trying to be funny, but instead he was very annoying and he looked foolish.
Can someone explain this to me? When John clearly says: We're short of time,...why do some of the panelists ask silly, unrelated, time-consuming irrelevent questions? Arlene sometimes does it, Dorothy rarely does as she's quite professional, but Bennett once again has to ask questions like clarification of where they're from and what area it's near and goes on to yammer about what that area is famous for. I'd think by now they'd be prepped on how to question when under that last person time constraints. That poor 3rd contestant is always under time limits anyway to poor time management, I feel so bad for them.
Don't be hard on Bennett Cerf for his clarifications and probing questions. As a publisher, he knows quite a bit about A LOT of stuff. I've seen episodes where he knows an obscure town's most important business. There is an adage that is applicable here, and I'll bet if Mr Cerf were alive, he'd agree with this hometruth:
"Your intuition will never waste your time".
They all do this. There is tension between Daly, who is understandably trying to move the proceedings along, and the panelists, who are trying to keep the spotlight on themselves for just that extra moment. Daly usually keeps things moving with tact and good humor, with occasional lapses into extended verbosity. Dorothy will break down a question into 3 or 4 micro-questions that don't get her closer to guessing the person's occupation. Arlene also does a version of this. Bennett interjects irrelevant information about his social life into the questions: "Did I have dinner with you in the Hamptons 2 nights ago?" For years, they wasted time with the perp walk and free guesses until the producers finally got rid of these time wasting procedures.
@@19gregske55 Bennett Cerf may know "...quite a bit about a lot of STUFF," but when he made a comment in another episode regarding California as "being near the water," I went into a writing rampage in the "Comments" section. I have lived in California since 1961, and it's now 2024; and the Pacific Ocean serves as the "western edge" of the state, but California is more than just water, or being beside the water. It has numerous and impressive mountain ranges, including the highest mountain in the continental United States, Mount Whitney, at 14,566.6 ft.; and there is the massive Mojave Desert, located, in part, in the largest county in the United States, San Bernardino County; and there are inland agricultural valleys and the piedmont plains where agriculture thrives. And it has the most productive agricultural region anywhere in the world, the Great Central Valley, comprising of the Sacramento Valley and the San Joaquin Valley, as one valley, running north-south for about 400 miles in the inland region of California; and on and on and on. So the one thing I noticed about folks like Bennett Cerf--and with respect to where they live, they are very poor in a lot of geography west of New York!
Carol used the same cover voice when she was on the show earlier that same year.The panel didn't remember that disguise?
It might be attributed to the blind folds. When one sense is hindered our abilities are distorted. I thought the same thing about Debbie Reynolds many appearances as her answers go on and on but the panel doesn't recognize the pattern. It has to be the masks.
Carol Burnett is just about six months away from a milestone birthday. I hope she lives past April of 2033 which will be her 100th birthday...
1:04 what’s wrong with Dorothy’s speach? Looks like the “sneeze” episode. 😞
Her speech is difficult to spit out with I'm guessing allergies..
Sspirales De Creacion I think she's just chronically nervous. A perfectionist. Announcing something to camera appears to be one of the nerveracking things for her. The sneeze episode, on the other hand, was something quite different again!!
Jane Patterson She doesn't suffer with allergies once all her introductions are over though! I personally think she gets terrible stagefright which eases as the game gets going. She feels safe then. Other than that she's a nervous type. Her appearance as the mystery guest some episodes ago she was actually SHAKING and Daly had to hold her hand. She's an introvert I think.
Dave Sanderson i like your point. Didn’t think about that one before. 🤔
Where we've come (I won't say "progressed") in 61 years. The cat calls when the pretty contestants show up now seems over the top. But back then it was considered a compliment and generally the women accepted it as such.
It was the ones who didn't get them who made a big stink about it in the name of feminism so that now no one gets them so they don't feel bad.
Yes it was considered a compliment. Then came the 70's.
Carol's name title was produced with a hand-lettering system the program had on-hand, which suggests Carol got this unusual gig as a last minute replacement for someone who had been scheduled but had to back out. Or maybe the staff just had a hard time finding anyone available that 17 December . . . .
At one point, the first nighttime Password featuring Carol Burnett and Garry Moore was available on RUclips.
Given the comments early in the show by John Daly and a couple of the panelists about the snow in New York at the time, Carol Burnett probably was, indeed, a last-minute fill-in as Mystery Guest for whoever was scheduled but couldn't make it to New York in time because of the weather.
This would explain why she was on so soon (~7 months) since her previous appearance as Mystery Guest.
It looks as though the superimposed Carol Burnett title was made with the sort of sign board once common in hotels etc to show what group was meeting where...individual white plastic letters, each with a tab on the back that fitted into horizontal slots of a corrugated black fabric backing. The shape of the letters is distinctive, especially the corners cut at a 45 degree angle rather than being rounded.
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Good observation!
Spit it out Abe....we ain't got all day (or all night)
Although about 20 months older, Chalmers "Bump" Elliott is still living as of 8/23/18 while his brother Pete passed away in January 2013 at age 86.
"Bump" had a winning record as a head coach while Pete did not. However, Pete made it to the Rose Bowl twice (once for California and once for Illinois, losing the first and winning the second), while "Bump" only made it once for Michigan (a win). if they were coaching today with the proliferation of bowl games and with the removal of restrictions of teams in the Big 10 and Pacific Coast Conference going to games other than the Rose Bowl, they would have had more bowl appearances.
"Bump" was able to get the best of Pete in their head to head match ups, winning all four including handing Illinois its only loss of the season when the went to the Rose Bowl.
In the 1962 season, the first one following their WML appearance, both coaches had 2-7 records. But Illinois went to the Rose Bowl the following season and Michigan the season after that.
Although the styles are similar, I like Carol Burnett's hair much better in this episode than when she was on in May. The main reason is that it is a softer look IMHO.
After watching Burroughs in a few episodes.. I don't think his intention was to be funny.. so much as this was just his usual style and manner of speaking. But in front of an audience who Did find it funny and charming, it seemed to dawn on him that: "Heyy.. I may be on to something here." He seems to have gotten quite a kick out of how the audience was responding to him, which made it all the more fun. Either way, I always get a kick out of his appearances.
I have enjoyed these programs since childhood in the 50s, but it is rather sad that none of Dorothy's friends ever questioned her death or the bogus coroner's report, which was controlled at the time by the mafia.
Have you read "The reporter who knew too much"...I thought it was really interesting
This has to be one of the most funny episodes in WML history. . . . for all the wrong reasons. Abe Burrows wrote some of the best Broadway shows of that period; he was a great writer -- but what were he and Dorothy using that night? He seemed tasked to string together one sentence after another.
And he was stressed, he was constantly smoking!
And Abe got a bit carried away when he tried to plant a big kiss on Carol Burnett and she had to take quick evasive action!
Miss Wilson should have been a model
(Absolutely) GORGEOUS (Smile) (and Demeanor).
Now you're sounding like Bennett. No reason why a beautiful woman must exploit her beauty professionally. Same for a handsome man.
Carol Burnett is an american treasure. Beauty inside & out.
Wow 15:18 she is SO UP for a conference and looks RATHER sorry when she didn't get one!!!
Daly looks quite relieved to get that segment over without a conference in fact! Maybe I'm being over-imaginative but she seems rather needy of attention and may have been a little too flirtacious backstage before appearing so Daly kept a disciplined distance. Maybe. :)
I have visited a lot of colleges along the eastern seaboard from New Hampshire to North Carolina. And I visited a few college on the west coast in the SF Bay area. But I have only visited two colleges in the U.S. in the heartland. Ironically one was U of Michigan and the other was U of Illinois. Two of my college classmates (identical twins) were getting their doctorates in Ann Arbor, and another of my college classmates got his doctorate in Champaign-Urbana. This was in the mid-1970's, By this time "Bump" was Athletic Director at U of Iowa and Pete was AD at U of Miami.
Abe Burrows annoys the hell out of me. There are so many other great guest panelist..
dannydoc1969 ~ OMG...I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!
Yep I'll be avoiding his episodes from here on or at least forwarding to the mystery guest where he can't indulge so much.
Abe Burrows really annoyed me too.
I have no idea how Abe Burrows made it through life. Lol
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Why would you post this?
Did Burrows have a few before this? I'm glad he had a good time.
Abe Burrows is a camera hog!
Jaydoggy531 No he's just a prick.
I'm sure Mr. Burrows was great at whatever he did, but he simply irritated me on this show. Had he not ever seen the show before or did he not care about looking dumb? Anyway don't mean to be harsh but just rubbed me the wrong way I guess!
Tom Klock - You are so right. He was a good comedy writer. He needed to stick with that. He was one of those guest panelists, like Groucho & Uncle Miltie & Victor Borge, who did not understand this show is not about them and they need to serve the overall game. He took way too much time in the spotlight without moving the game along or being hilarious about something a la Steve Allen.
Miss Loraine Wilson (Monkey cage builder), while being undeniably gorgeous, carries herself with incredible poise, modesty and class. Those qualities are sorely missing in today's diva-worshiping culture.
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I love Carol Burnett.. very talented and funny!
I took offense that John Daly didn't overrule Carol's "no" answer to "Are you a very pretty girl?" question. He should have said, "YES!"
At times, Abe Burrows could be much worse than Hal Block.
I thought Abe Burrows was truly awful! Chain smoking was bad enough, but he was just so full of himself. A proper blowhard.
I know smoking was socially acceptable at the time, but come on, Abe couldn't go 30 minutes without lighting up?
I know This show is older than me, but i am still crushing on arlene francis...
Abe Burrows was kind of a doofus imho…especially when he planted a big, sloppy kiss on Carol as she exited..which she tried to avoid…I’m sure too the other panelists must’ve appreciated his lighting up a ciggie and blowing smoke in their faces…what a different time that was…
I love Bennett, but I hate the subjective beauty questions. Was awkward for Gertrude Berg, too.
+FergusMcDopey I love the man but he was such a horndog, one can only guess what he's imagining behind that mask!
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Lovely indeed.
I was 5 days old.
She didn’t do the ear thing
Then sue her !!!!!
For heaven's sake, birds ARE animals, Bennett!
I'll never get used to (a) all these years and they couldn't afford a 2nd seat or even a bench and forced two people to share a chair. A chair? How much can a single chair cost? Also (b) the poor third contestant is brushed off in such a hurry, and I always look at John's eyes and he's constantly watching the clock trying to rush, rush, rush things along. That poor guest, all dressed up and drove there for 60 seconds of airtime or whatever. They should have had a clock displayed for the panelists so they could judge their time. Some of them wasted precious time trying to pause for laughter or make a joke, even after John clearly stated, "Panel, we're short of time." You'd think that would give them a giant clue, no?
I have wondered that about the chair forever! Crazy that they have to share. 😂
Yes, I’ve always wondered why two grown guests had to squeeze onto one chair!!
Oh please, we've been through this a thousand times. There were reasons why there was only one (wide) chair for contestants, primarily due to camera angle and mic placement.
That was an interesting closing remark by Johnny Olsen .. not selling anything, asking for donations or help for some cause ... just to be optimistic ..
Good observation. I feel like he was leading up to a plug but there was someone gesturing to him, "end it, we're out of time!"
Mr. Burrows is not funny...he’s very annoying!
He's a pain in the a*se.
sad to see Abe Burrows smoking ...feel bad for Dorothy, Arlene and Bennett
No need to feel sorry, they all smoked.
In the early days of the show, Arlene smoked on camera, as did John Charles Daly.
Back then smoking was believed to be glamorous and sophisticated, and by some, touted as being healthy. We know better now.
@@juanettebutts9782 smoking was very acceptable in those days. Doctors did cigarette commercials promoting specific brands. Smoking wasn't offensive until smoking became associated with health risks. I believe Arlene smoked in her first episode of WML. During those days and in to the 1970's smoking was seen often in restaurants, food stores, department stores, etc.
NO ONE COMPLAINED.
That came later too.
Abe Burrows took this game waaaay too seriously. And he needs to put out that g-d cigarette.
Looks like you're missing the episode with Sir Michael Redgrave as a mystery guest.
Yes, I'm missing that one.
What about the three from 1961 that you said you just got?
Also, I'll be sure to point out which episodes you're missing as we go along. Whether it'd be ones GSN has shown, or has never shown but does exist among collectors, or are lost to the ravages of time.
***** Did I specify three from 1961 at some point? I'm really asking, because I couldn't tell you how many unposted shows I have offhand now, and I honestly don't remember specifying before.
To be clear, I definitely do have some older missing shows to fill in, but just haven't had a chance to sort it all out yet. I may post some of these shows that we've gone past already over the next couple of weeks, while I take a short break from the new episodes. Too busy on another project and I've fallen way behind the postings in watching the shows myself!
***** Looking over my log, the only show from 1961 that I don't have a copy of at this point is the Michael Redgrave 12/10/61 show you just asked about Any other missing 1961 shows are because I got them recently and haven't posted them yet. If you have a list handy of which others are missing from 1961, that would be a big help. I'd appreciate it.
What's My Line? The two other missing 1961 episodes are March 5 (Genevieve mystery guest) and March 12 (Ritz Brothers mystery guests). Thanks for downloading!
Why would Carol do the same voice when she answers than 7 months before?
Dare them to ask that question today. Now that would be something!
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Carol lied. She was a very pretty girl.
Lorraine had quite a head of hair!
Small wonder Abe didn't last long as a panelist - he is the worst! Otherwise, Carol did NOT tug on her left ear this time.
Yeah, I didn’t find Burrows funny; I found him annoying.
@@leesher1845 he's a clown 🤡 but not a particularly funny one
Well I'm suddenly getting dubbing. Lots of what is written doesn't even remotely resemble what has actually been said.😕
Carol is so soo wrong!
She is very pretty and striking with a beautiful smile!
Only Groucho was as obnoxious as Abe Burrows...
Abe Burrows, the one who many of you found annoying, stood up for Carol Burnett. John Daly should have.
Good point.
I really didn’t like how they rushed the final contestants. That was inconsiderate and I’m sure that a lot of the contestants were disappointed.
I forgot about this and just watched it again. It seems Bennett was first to stand up for carol burnett, and Abe was second.
Earlier on this day, the Giants tied the Browns 7-7, thereby winning the Eastern Division title with a record of 10-3-1.
But the line was COLLEGE coaches, not NFL coaches.
Dorothy's new hairstyle looks good on her.
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The last contestant's name was "God". I guess she knew a guy named Gabriel.
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Not only did she know Gabriel, but they had toots in common! :-)
Is it me, or was Abe Burrows not very funny?
About as funny as a cancer diagnosis
Monkeys have one tail, two legs and two arms.
But they walk on all four limbs, making them all legs by some people's definition.
Sad to think that Abe Burrows and Arlene Francis died of Alzheimers
I watch this show to see what that ladies are wearing! Same thing for To Tell the Truth," especially to see what Kitty wore... Those LADIES knew class!
Arlene knew because she had been on only six months before and used the same voive
Why are there two programs (May 7 / 1961 and Dec 17 /1961) with Carol Burnett? she answers the questions with the same voice in both programs, was it completely fixed?
Abe Burrows ruined the whole show for me.
They shouldn't even bring a new contestant on when there is only a few minutes left. That's why live TV is so rare now.