Just got our 2017 edge from the ford dealer. Out of wqarrenty, but when I bought it I got an extended warrenty. Allstate covered everything including a rental car. Never buy a car without an extended warrenty. Allstate is the best.
@michaelj9210 Thats great we were also lucky ours was just in warranty by 5 days and Ford covered everything. Thanks again for watching and the comment.
I have a 2017 Lincoln MKZ, same Goddamned engine! Here's the thing: I just got it back from the Ford/Lincoln dealer for an entire transmission replacement due to failed stud welds on the torque converter and metal shavings all throughout. I had concerns over rough and delayed shifting once I began driving it regularly early on, but when I brought it back in for an oil change and I mentioned it, I was told, "Oh, yeah....that's perfectly normal for this car!" Well, I knew it wasn't "normal," I persisted, and they just replaced the transmission. SO! I just got it back 2 weeks ago, and everything seems to be fine with the transmission; however, as I was waiting in line at the pharmacy the other day, it began to idle very roughly, so much so that I thought it was going to stall, so I put it in Neutral and revved it a bit, and then it seemed ok, but then today, it did it again....and again....and again! I got home and opened the hood, and I immediately noticed that the coolant overflow reservoir was very low, well below the mark on the side. I let it sit for several hours and I just checked it again, because I wanted to look at it after it cooled way down, and the level is even lower than it was earlier. Here's the thing; I bought it in March of 2021, it was a "Certified Pre-owned," with 42,000 miles on it, and it now has 60,000 miles on it, so the mileage is low, especially for the year; they told me I was covered "bumper-to-bumper for 4 years, and I even paid extra for even more warranty protection. I have maintained this car religiously and like clockwork, and I already know what's coming: ANOTHER big fight over a new engine, but....I'm going to do it, I have no choice; it's either that or walk because I cannot afford a new car right now. I am permanently and totally disabled and my only income is SSDI, so I barely get by as it is....I will be 60 y/o next month, and I am just too damned bent and old for this shit all over again! I hope to Hell I don't get the runaround until the warranty is completely expired before they'll admit that it was a bad engine before I even got it!!
@@jamescarrington5521 We hate that you have to fight all over again, but with that warrantee you should be covered! We’ll keep our fingers crossed for you. Please keep in touch and let us know what happens! Good luck. 🍀
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 Well, they told me that all of the warranties expire in March, on the 10th or something like that, but what worries me is that I had to fight with them for early 3 years to get them to replace the transmission
@@jamescarrington5521 Fight, I wasn't going to accept them not replacing the engine. You still have your warranty so they are obliged and the engine will be covered. Done 1000km so far and touch wood everything ok. No coolant use and smooth running with no misfires. Nothing in life comes easy... if you don't push and fight you will never know. Let me know how you get on mate. 🇦🇺
I have a 2018 V6 still good BUT my 2018 Escape 2.0... getting an engine replacement this week for this problem. Warranty covered but they need to do better... this should be a full recall or a class action is going to happen.
Your 3.5 Edge also has a major problem waiting to happen. Ford put an internal water pump on them that works off the timing chain and when they fail they dump, and they will eventually fail all the coolant into the oil which can destroy the main bearings and engine. It is a major job to replace this water pump as you have to remove the front cover of the engine. Most mechanics say you have to remove the engine from the car making this is a $2,000+ repair if you cannot do it yourself. I traded my 2013 Ford Taurus with a 3.5 for a 2016 Ford Edge 2.0 ecoboost when I discovered this issue but now It seems I jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.
@tonybradley2801 Hi Tony our Edge has the 2.0 not the 3.5 but still was lucky with the warranty this is the old style 2.0 they went back with a different block earlier design which I understand was a great 2.0 they had no problems with.
A tiny 2L in such a large and heavy vehicle like this is just begging for trouble. An suv like that should have a decent sized V6 at least. While the turbo makes up for displacement to a certain extent- at the end of the day you still have a highly stressed engine which will not last as long as a larger one will...
I agree with you but our Edge is only 2 wheel drive and gets 28 mpg 2.0 will boost to over 100mph so easy, I know that the turbo is most of that but I had a Chrysler LeBaron with a 4cyl turbo and it had over 250,000 miles on it so if the engine is maintained you should be able to get over 120,000 miles with ease. But Ford messed up.this engine trying to boost it to much and trying to keep it cool. We are still happy with the car but I think they should extend the warranty up to 100,000 miles because the day after they put the new engine in it it was out of warranty. Thanks for your comment and good luck if you own anything that has the 1.6 or 2.0 engine in it.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 Thank You! I own a 2012 Ford Fusion sel with the 3.0 Duratec V6. It has been a great running car. I take care of it and plan on keeping it for the rest of my life lol! I prefer this older car over any new one nowadays..My daughter drives one with the 2.5L 4cyl. They both have been super reliable. Neither car has yet to show a check engine light and are over 126,000 miles. Knock on wood! 😂 The V6 car still has plenty of power and looks new. I am a bit dismayed at the modern trend of manufacturers installing small displacement engines with turbos into large vehicles. Turbo engines are high performance engines and require regular servicing even when driven gently. I can't see how such a small engine operates gently when it has to move such a large vehicle. I am not picking on Ford or this model Edge. It seems all manufacturers are doing this. I wish you all the best with your new engine. I understand Ford went back to the older duratec 2.0 block design. That is a great engine too. ✌
this happened to my 2018 ford edge sel 2.0 ecoboost back in 2020 we bought it from hertz rentals at 46k miles.I got the coolant intrusion at 52k miles.I took it to my dealer friendly ford and they replaced the engine for the new design ford didnt charge me anything it was covered under warranty it now has 101k miles.theres also a recall on these cars for cracked flywheel/flexplate
Same here. 2018 edge. Ours made it long enough to get outside the warranty and we had to spend $7350 on a new engine and turbo. I will never buy another ford.
@jamesblakely2623 Sorry to hear that. I wish Ford would just make it right and fix the mess there in to regain loyalty of there customers. Make sure you look into the class action law suite I belive us still going on and save your recipes.
Hi We did have a link in the description but now it seems to be shut down. Looking into it looks like you should be able to call a lawyer and get info on this problem it is still going on and I'm so sorry your one the people that is stuck trying to get this taken care of. We got do lucky we only has 1 week left in warranty when I found the problem and Ford replaced the engine. Good luck Linus & Dana .
Just did a head gasket on a friends 2019 and it only had 60k miles, what a joke, you have to tear everything off the engine to even get the head off. She’s not going to keep it she’s trading it in now that it’s fixed
I know it a very big job to just put a head gasket on it . Worst problem it's only temporary and then trade in value on the cars that have these engines is terrible because all dealers and sales lots know that these engines are junk and will have to be replaced. I hate what Ford has done with this issue and I've always bought Fords . Good Luck and we really thank for your input and comment's . Linus & Dana
We have the same issue bought our 2017 ford edge at a ford dealership in June 2023 within a month error code , had diagnosed told it need a new engine, we just got 1 $19k loan for the vehicle now we need another 7000 for a new engine. I am paying for the engine and then taking ford to small claims court to get my money back. find a ford edge forum many are doing the same to force a recall, 700,000 people are affected by this engine.
I am in nearly the same situation. Bought a 2017 from a dealer last month. It only had 37k miles and thought I was getting a good deal. Fool me once and shame on me I guess. Didn't even make it a 1k miles before the check engine light came on. Changed the plugs and coils, still have the issue. Now we are out of the warranty window. Definitely going to look into this class action lawsuit. Please keep this conversation going, I would like to see what others are doing to address the issue. Especially those outside the factory warranty.
I have a 2017 and i got it in 2018 within 2 weeks i had to have the block replaced because if a defect. I now within the last week am having issue with it draining coolant.
Did they put a new engine in it right after you bought it is what I'm seeing in your comment and now it has more problems again how many miles on your car now. I'm kind off worried that when they replaced our engine it may go out again. Thanks please let me know .
Yes it should be a recall, I have the 2019 ford fusion titanium and as soon as it hit 67k miles the same issue happened to me, after 65k the warranty is invalid. I loved the car and took care of it just for that engine issue to happen to it.
I hate that this happened to you!! We got very lucky that my car was still under warranty. I remember when Linus told me that the car needed a new engine (and how much it was going to cost). I literally broke down in tears in the middle of the kitchen!!! Linus is a retired mechanic, and always takes wonderful care of our vehicles.
My daughter's 2015 had a misfire in the 3rd cylinder. I thought I just needed to change the spark plugs but when I saw the coolant low I knew it was more.
We really haven't had any other problems except the engine and was lucky Ford put a new one in right before the warranty expired. Thanks for the comment
2018 Ford edge . 87 k mil same problem. Out of warranty. Ford cop. Know’s about this issue since 2015 still selling this 💩💩🚙 . Don’t care . 🤷 stay away . Lost 💴.
Sorry to hear that Ford is supposed to have a Class Action Suite against them but I can't seem to find the correct info anymore. Good Luck and I would do alot of digging to see what you can find..Thanks Again for the comment
Sorry to hear that on your car we were really lucky but I do believe that there is a Class Action Law Suite out there still I would dig around and see what you can find ..Thanks for the comment and Good Luck..
Yes on the earlier models of the eco boost engine, they had block issues with water intrusion and redesigned the block again, still bad quality from Ford 🇬🇧
I knew this was an issue, but I thought they redesigned them before 2018 to fix it. This sucks, I need a new car, I have a Ford dealer a mile from my home, I loved my old Ranger, and 85 Bronco before that, bot great vehicles. So I also heard the old Escape had a great hybrid system which lasted forever, I wonder if that's still decent.
I not sure about the older Escape but they 2.0 also has turbo issue the pipe for oil is so close the manifold that it heats up the oil and bakes it so the turbo starves for oil and then quits working..
My wife's 2016 Ford Edge finally died after 196K miles back in July of this year. I guess we were lucky to go that far. Around 90K miles in early 2021, she started getting cylinder #3 misfire faults. Took it to the shop & they changed all of the spark plugs. Okay, figured nearing 100K, it probably was due. Around 135K & 159K, it did it again? Shop changed plugs both time's & coil pack again. I thought that it was odd going through spark plugs & getting cylinder #3 misfires. Shop couldn't figure it out? Never had coolant loss unless they were topping it off during oil changes?? This July it finally went. Wife was blowing white smoke out of exhaust, with coolant loss in the reservoir. Replacement Jasper motor is $7K!! They're on hold right now, due to Ford? I'm looking to do an engine & tranny swap if it's possible? Looking for a wrecked 2020 - 2023 drive train. I don't know about programming & electronic differences?
@antcrow7424 Getting the transmission programed from something older to new might require a different computer also the engine if it's different most likely the same problem. We are concerned about our transmission holding up in the long run the new engine seems to be ok right now but who nows anymore all the dealers want to do is get you out of there hair or sell you a new car . Ford has really had a tremendous amount of problems with a number of cars and truck including a new recall of ford truck covering over 90,000 trucks that are f150 Ford Is Recalling 90,736 Vehicles With EcoBoost V-6 Engines I just hope they get things straighten out our there going to loose alot of customers. Thank for the comment and good luck we also cover reviews on camping if your interested please Like and Subscribe. Linus & Dana
Just bought my 2017 edge from a used car dealer 2 weeks ago. Dealer won't do anything it was as "as is" sale. next day engine light came on misfires in cylinder #4 coolant leaking into cylinder...what a junk design... Ford fixed the design for newer models but the rest of us have to pay 6k + for new engines!!! Ford needs a recall!!!!
@joeyw.377 That's ashame car dealers know that these engine are junk and are pushing them off there lots I would report them to the BBB and do a big bad review on there website I'm sure they have one. Places just don't care anymore I don't get it.. You can put a head gasket on it and it will last awhile but it's a big job if you don't mechanic Do a video on the car and put it on there site. Do it in the morning after it's cold it should smoke white then show the engine light on. Good Luck Sorry..
We just found this issue with my wife's 2017 Ford Escape. It doesn't have warranty so I either replace the engine myself, replace the car, or wait for the lawsuit.
So sorry yours isn't under warranty...we were lucky that ours was just under the wire!!! Do a little research and see if Ford is fixing some that are out of warranty. Call your dealership and maybe get a phone number for Ford. Good luck! Also you might try replacing the head gaskets. It's a major job, but it solves the problem with some engines.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 hate to bring bad news but the ford company is not fixing any cars out of warranty, I called and got told I was crap out of luck, and the head gasket may fix it for 10k miles but because of the engine heating and cooling with every time it’s used it’ll have the same problems very soon, I asked the local dealership and they said it would be best to just replace the engine, mine is currently sitting in my driveway unable to be used because it sucked every ounce of coolant into my motor and I’m afraid it’s hydro locked.
replace the engine yourself and take ford to small claims, make sure you have all the documentation , grab the TSB for this issue as well it shows that they knew about the issue and refused to do the right thing and have a recall. you can sue them up to $10k in small claims.
We just traded the car in on a brand new Mitsubishi. I do hope I can still be part of the class action and recover some of my money spent on cooling issues
That engine can be replaced by Ford with a new one with the new block design that doesn't have the slot between the cylinders. Any coolant loss on the new ones usually is indicative of a leaky oil cooler which can be repaired without having to replace the engine.
Wow. I wasn't so lucky. I'm 20k outside my warranty and stuck with a $5000 Bill. Hopefully I can sue. It's just not right for them to leave me hanging like this after paying it off.
Think about this! Try selling a car that has a bad habit with leaking head gaskets between cylinders because of inadequate clamping force . In other words, the head will not stay flat on the block, causing failure. Oil and water isn't bad. Water just causes rust. But antifreeze in motor oil will wipe the bearings in no time flat. Ask me how I know? And resale value is a joke!
We were so lucky on this only a week away from warranty running out new engine installed and no cost but get this no warranty on new engine at all past your original warranty date. I hope you get in on the lawsuit on this and get a big refund.
[“:For will not do anything about this situation, Ford Knowingly, Intentionally, and Maliciously, Sold Numerous Vehicles, with this Motor/Engine, having Knowledge and Knowing very well, that at some point, that this issue will arise.”]…
My wifes 2015 2.0 uses coolant too but its not real bad. I have to add about a quart every couple months. Now it need a new valve cover gasket and it leaks gear fluid from the ptu. It has 150,000 miles and still runs pretty good all considering. I wouldn't be sad if i woke up one morning and the car was because someone stole it.
I hate that I would still look into the Class Action Suite and see what you can find out the milage really shouldn't matter I think because it's probably been burning antifreeze for a long time. Good luck.
2018 Ford Edge with 55k miles; less than 30 days out of warranty; I’m pleading with Ford to assist with the $7300 engine replacement; not looking good for me.
@PsalmEightyEight I would tell them I want a service representative involved and get that number and talk to them especially if you less than 30 days over warranty
Worst case go in ebay and I found a 2.0 eco boost engine with around 10k miles for 1200$ believe it or not the engine is easier to replace than doing the head gasket
Ford ended up giving me warranty on the engine by replacing it with a newer style block with more head surface, I do understand they are really pushing alot of horsepower out of these small engines but everyone of the manufacturers have turbo boost engine now days and I would rather have a gas powered car or truck than a electric car my own opinion. Thanks for your comment.
Same problem with 2016 ford escape titanium. Bought brand new 7 miles on it, changed oil religiously. F,... .........FORD, won't buy another new one ever
Sorry to here about your car I know there has been quite a lot of bad engine in every manufacturer out there..it sad no quality control. Thanks for the comment
@hitchinupmovinon8386 If the heads and gasket could be fixed, I wouldn't even care as much. Their fix is a new long block @ 12grand. Car not even worth 12 grand
@CamoAmmoWildlifeAdventures We were lucky I guess caught it just in time. The warranty was almost out had 5 days left on it .. they replaced the whole engine but you never know if it's going to hold up also.
@hitchinupmovinon8386 every car I have ever had you could get heads machined and new head gasket installed for roughly 3 grand. Ford can fall off the map for all I care,.....I was looking at a new Ford truck before all this. Glad it happened before I bought another pile of trash.......Never Ford guy here now
@@7orrest7erguson I'm considering a used 2016 Escape Titanium. Guess this is pass. I called Ford service to ask what they think just before I researched online, the service advisor said run. He also said they have trans and power steering issues when they get older, very costly. I have a Ford F150 with the 6.2L. Those are pretty indestructible. They cost a fortune used, for good reason.
Thanks for responding and posting a link. I actually work on my own vehicles and never experienced anything like this. Just glad my girlfriend didn't have it on a long road trip. I'm starting to dislike Ford as much as I dislike Home owners Associations😂
Warranty is only a guide line, if its a major failure they have to cover it. This sorry you out of warranty is rubbish. By law they must assist if within reasonable time. Jump on the class action suit.
@@nic_red02 Class actions are ok, however, sometimes it can take years and people sometimes only end up with a small settlement in the class actions. Lawyers and Ford work deals behind the close doors.
@@awareness2remember Fully agree mate! Not ideal, way better if Ford just coughs up admits their liability and do right by every person they have done in.
Yes there is it is to replace the whole engine the head on the block was cut wrong and doesn't allow enough surface for the head gasket and it causes a antifreeze leak at gasket then it burns antifreeze and ruins the engine completely. I showed it inn the video. thanks
They pretty sure they did know there was a problem but I'm sure they didn't want to recall every car that had this engine in it but as I understand there is a class action suite against ford . Thanks for the comment
My ‘18 2.0 Edge with 105k miles started shaking at startup recently and after a couple days a check engine light is now on and it’s reading P0301 misfire. So it’s a misfire in cylinder #1. The coolant was low too. I added coolant and replaced the spark plug but after driving a couple days, check engine light is back on and coolant is low again 🤬
2015 ford edge 2.0 sel. 159k miles and little coolant loss here n there. Change spark plugs every 30k miles and oil every 3-5k miles with lucas stabilizer. Have to add coolant here n there but it runs fine New tranny at 127k miles. Now changing that fluid every 25k miles
good luck with that engine oil asphalt,, your variable timing solenoid will thank you for it... when it stops working and your engine does the same thig... it will be quite noisy when this happens
@randellgribben9772 been changing oil with stabilizer every 3k miles since there is fuel dilution, runs so smooth and quiet. Original turbos, no turbo chatter . Doing that since 80k miles.
Ford replaced the engine the next week under warranty we were within 2 days of our warranty expiring. We were luck and I wanted get the news out about the problem with this engine . Thanks
Same issue with my 2017 Ford Escape. 94,000km (under 60,000 miles) No.2 Cylinder. Bought car at Ford Dealer December 2024. They went straight to Ford Corp replied, they replacing with a new engine. Problem fixed in engines 2020 later. Perth, Australia 🇦🇺
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 true, they have insurances for stuff like this but apparently they put in goodwill claim with Ford. I know I'm lucky but it helps.... one thing I've learnt is do your research prior to buying any vehicle....
@@nic_red02 I did the research on my wife's 2017 Escape SE 2.0. There were no squawk's about that engine when purchases. But as time went on, FMC found that their block design was a fail. Their line of Eco-Boost engines were sucking water between the cylinders. That would have to be a massive recall and financial loss for FMC to replace faulty short blocks that were leaking coolants. The Escape only has 39,000 miles and I've changed the anti-freeze, retightened the head bolts and prayed for a clean exhaust pipe. Keeping our Escape for 10 years will kill my resale value, I think FMC should admit there inherit problems and replace these engines free of cost to the original owners.
@@nic_red02 I never saw a FMC add advertising a bad block from their factory. FMC forgot to tell owners about their flaw. They need to replace their horrible parts free.
@@robertdavis6708if Ford didn't do the right thing I would've taken further and jumped in on the class action... for now I feel Blessed and grateful and praying everyone else gets their vehicles fixed or at least Ford doing the right thing to everyone.
You should not have an issue in the following vehicles if they are made AFTER the dates listed below. The dates below are from the Ford TSB about the problem and show that vehicles built before those listed dates could have the problem. 2017-2019 Fusion/MKZ built on or before 8-Apr-2019 - 2017-2019 Escape built on or before 16-May-2019 - 2017-2019 MKC built on or before 18-Apr-2019
I got a new replacement engine for my 2017 Escape after the first one failed for coolant intrusion. The new replacement engine was manufactured in March, 2023. SURPRISE!!!!! The check engine light has come on after 8k miles on the new engine! I took it to Autozone and the read the error. P0300, Random Misfire. Do you think it is possible that I have the same problem again and the new engine has also failed with coolant intrusion?
If it's the new block style the surface on the block where it meets the head should be different than the original giving it more surface for the Head Gasket to seal so it should of taken care of the problem but you never know what ford might have done because of all the warranty claims they are going to have to cover . So I'm really not sure but I would check with Ford Dealership or go right to a Representative for Ford .
Ok so we are planning to buy a second hand 2017 ford escape titanium 2.0 engine with 110k mileage on it because we need a car to go to our job, it gas a carfax with continous maintenance and no major issue yet, should we go for it or just run?
@@danaschmid3670 Ok so the dealer said that they will put in 36k miles of above and beyond powertrain warranty engine and transmission included, would it be enough? Appreciate the advice thanks
@@TheTokzter027 That would certainly help, but it's still a big chance to take. (Sorry it took so long to answer this. Linus had open heart surgery (quintuple bypass) two weeks ago, and that's all we've been concentrating on.)
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 not a problem, appreciate for taking the time to reply, apparently i backed out and selected another suv with a 70k mileage.. Hope he will recover soon and back to good health. Godbless 🙏
@@TheTokzter027 glad you didn't get it! The Ford Escape 2017, 2018, 2019 have the up and down grooves on the engine block and that is what the issue is. It's a faulty design and causes coolant intrusion and in many cases, the person needing to spend $6K to $8K on a new engine. It's also why you'll see many 2017, 2018, 2019 Ford Escape's in the 45,000 to 60,000 mile range, priced relatively lower. So, the buyer thinks, wow, what a deal!! No. Do not get those years, period.
@samanthaj7131 There was supposed to be class action law suite on this but not sure what is going on now. We also worry about the transmission getting ready to have it serviced 67000 miles.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 yes I called regarding the law suit but it’s been going for years. It’s out of CA. Ford needs to recall this vehicle period. The engine and the transmission is bad? That’s the whole vehicle. It’s really sad..I loved this suv. My first and last Ford.
@samanthaj7131 Our has a new engine in it we got lucky and just caught it in time littery 1 week away from out of warranty. I was a mechanic for Ford and noticed problems with the coolant and a little smoke so I checked it out . We wanted to put a hitch on the back of it to pull our boat sometimes but I know that the transmissions aren't that strong so we just take care of it and I keep it maintained.
Just got our 2017 edge from the ford dealer. Out of wqarrenty, but when I bought it I got an extended warrenty. Allstate covered everything including a rental car. Never buy a car without an extended warrenty. Allstate is the best.
@michaelj9210 Thats great we were also lucky ours was just in warranty by 5 days and Ford covered everything. Thanks again for watching and the comment.
I have a 2017 Lincoln MKZ, same Goddamned engine! Here's the thing: I just got it back from the Ford/Lincoln dealer for an entire transmission replacement due to failed stud welds on the torque converter and metal shavings all throughout. I had concerns over rough and delayed shifting once I began driving it regularly early on, but when I brought it back in for an oil change and I mentioned it, I was told, "Oh, yeah....that's perfectly normal for this car!" Well, I knew it wasn't "normal," I persisted, and they just replaced the transmission.
SO! I just got it back 2 weeks ago, and everything seems to be fine with the transmission; however, as I was waiting in line at the pharmacy the other day, it began to idle very roughly, so much so that I thought it was going to stall, so I put it in Neutral and revved it a bit, and then it seemed ok, but then today, it did it again....and again....and again! I got home and opened the hood, and I immediately noticed that the coolant overflow reservoir was very low, well below the mark on the side. I let it sit for several hours and I just checked it again, because I wanted to look at it after it cooled way down, and the level is even lower than it was earlier.
Here's the thing; I bought it in March of 2021, it was a "Certified Pre-owned," with 42,000 miles on it, and it now has 60,000 miles on it, so the mileage is low, especially for the year; they told me I was covered "bumper-to-bumper for 4 years, and I even paid extra for even more warranty protection. I have maintained this car religiously and like clockwork, and I already know what's coming: ANOTHER big fight over a new engine, but....I'm going to do it, I have no choice; it's either that or walk because I cannot afford a new car right now. I am permanently and totally disabled and my only income is SSDI, so I barely get by as it is....I will be 60 y/o next month, and I am just too damned bent and old for this shit all over again! I hope to Hell I don't get the runaround until the warranty is completely expired before they'll admit that it was a bad engine before I even got it!!
@@jamescarrington5521 We hate that you have to fight all over again, but with that warrantee you should be covered! We’ll keep our fingers crossed for you. Please keep in touch and let us know what happens! Good luck. 🍀
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 Well, they told me that all of the warranties expire in March, on the 10th or something like that, but what worries me is that I had to fight with them for early 3 years to get them to replace the transmission
@@jamescarrington5521 Damn! Hopefully this will go better since there’s a lot of documentation about this engine!!
@@jamescarrington5521 Fight, I wasn't going to accept them not replacing the engine. You still have your warranty so they are obliged and the engine will be covered. Done 1000km so far and touch wood everything ok. No coolant use and smooth running with no misfires. Nothing in life comes easy... if you don't push and fight you will never know. Let me know how you get on mate. 🇦🇺
I have a 2018 V6 still good BUT my 2018 Escape 2.0... getting an engine replacement this week for this problem. Warranty covered but they need to do better... this should be a full recall or a class action is going to happen.
I totally agree with that .
Agreed!!
Makes one wonder if Ford and GM got their wiz-diz enginers together to see who could desighn thee worst engin.
Never buy a turbo engine from any car company....same with CVT's.
Is it possible to do that? I’ve been looking
Boo
Very car company is going turbo. Get used to it or buy a horse.
Not so much the turbo. But the open deck block that allows the cylinders to move and fret the head gasket and then allow water into the cylinders
Mine is 2013, still going (3.5). My dad had to get the engine replaced in his (2.0). Thankfully ford stood by my father’s Edge and it didn’t cost him.
Thanks for the comment . We also came out lucky just only a week away from warranty expires but Ford came through and replaced the engine.
Your 3.5 Edge also has a major problem waiting to happen. Ford put an internal water pump on them that works off the timing chain and when they fail they dump, and they will eventually fail all the coolant into the oil which can destroy the main bearings and engine. It is a major job to replace this water pump as you have to remove the front cover of the engine. Most mechanics say you have to remove the engine from the car making this is a $2,000+ repair if you cannot do it yourself. I traded my 2013 Ford Taurus with a 3.5 for a 2016 Ford Edge 2.0 ecoboost when I discovered this issue but now It seems I jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.
@tonybradley2801 Hi Tony our Edge has the 2.0 not the 3.5 but still was lucky with the warranty this is the old style 2.0 they went back with a different block earlier design which I understand was a great 2.0 they had no problems with.
A tiny 2L in such a large and heavy vehicle like this is just begging for trouble. An suv like that should have a decent sized V6 at least. While the turbo makes up for displacement to a certain extent- at the end of the day you still have a highly stressed engine which will not last as long as a larger one will...
I agree with you but our Edge is only 2 wheel drive and gets 28 mpg 2.0 will boost to over 100mph so easy, I know that the turbo is most of that but I had a Chrysler LeBaron with a 4cyl turbo and it had over 250,000 miles on it so if the engine is maintained you should be able to get over 120,000 miles with ease. But Ford messed up.this engine trying to boost it to much and trying to keep it cool. We are still happy with the car but I think they should extend the warranty up to 100,000 miles because the day after they put the new engine in it it was out of warranty. Thanks for your comment and good luck if you own anything that has the 1.6 or 2.0 engine in it.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 Thank You! I own a 2012 Ford Fusion sel with the 3.0 Duratec V6. It has been a great running car. I take care of it and plan on keeping it for the rest of my life lol! I prefer this older car over any new one nowadays..My daughter drives one with the 2.5L 4cyl. They both have been super reliable. Neither car has yet to show a check engine light and are over 126,000 miles. Knock on wood! 😂 The V6 car still has plenty of power and looks new. I am a bit dismayed at the modern trend of manufacturers installing small displacement engines with turbos into large vehicles. Turbo engines are high performance engines and require regular servicing even when driven gently. I can't see how such a small engine operates gently when it has to move such a large vehicle. I am not picking on Ford or this model Edge. It seems all manufacturers are doing this. I wish you all the best with your new engine. I understand Ford went back to the older duratec 2.0 block design. That is a great engine too. ✌
Every NEW engine comes with a 60,000 3year manufacturers warranty so you'll be OK with new engine for next 3years!
@@TheHunsAreDugShiteTry 5 year 60K ace!
this happened to my 2018 ford edge sel 2.0 ecoboost back in 2020 we bought it from hertz rentals at 46k miles.I got the coolant intrusion at 52k miles.I took it to my dealer friendly ford and they replaced the engine for the new design ford didnt charge me anything it was covered under warranty it now has 101k miles.theres also a recall on these cars for cracked flywheel/flexplate
@@chito17sts Glad you got lucky!! Thanks for commenting!
Same here. 2018 edge. Ours made it long enough to get outside the warranty and we had to spend $7350 on a new engine and turbo. I will never buy another ford.
@jamesblakely2623 Sorry to hear that. I wish Ford would just make it right and fix the mess there in to regain loyalty of there customers. Make sure you look into the class action law suite I belive us still going on and save your recipes.
There’s a 2.0 turbo engine on eBay for 1200$ with 10k miles on it
Same car same problem how do you join the class action? Thanks for sharing
Hi We did have a link in the description but now it seems to be shut down. Looking into it looks like you should be able to call a lawyer and get info on this problem it is still going on and I'm so sorry your one the people that is stuck trying to get this taken care of. We got do lucky we only has 1 week left in warranty when I found the problem and Ford replaced the engine. Good luck Linus & Dana .
Just did a head gasket on a friends 2019 and it only had 60k miles, what a joke, you have to tear everything off the engine to even get the head off. She’s not going to keep it she’s trading it in now that it’s fixed
I know it a very big job to just put a head gasket on it . Worst problem it's only temporary and then trade in value on the cars that have these engines is terrible because all dealers and sales lots know that these engines are junk and will have to be replaced. I hate what Ford has done with this issue and I've always bought Fords . Good Luck and we really thank for your input and comment's . Linus & Dana
We have the same issue bought our 2017 ford edge at a ford dealership in June 2023 within a month error code , had diagnosed told it need a new engine, we just got 1 $19k loan for the vehicle now we need another 7000 for a new engine. I am paying for the engine and then taking ford to small claims court to get my money back. find a ford edge forum many are doing the same to force a recall, 700,000 people are affected by this engine.
Have you looked into joining the class action suit? Good luck to you!!!
I am in nearly the same situation. Bought a 2017 from a dealer last month. It only had 37k miles and thought I was getting a good deal. Fool me once and shame on me I guess. Didn't even make it a 1k miles before the check engine light came on. Changed the plugs and coils, still have the issue. Now we are out of the warranty window. Definitely going to look into this class action lawsuit. Please keep this conversation going, I would like to see what others are doing to address the issue. Especially those outside the factory warranty.
I have a 2017 and i got it in 2018 within 2 weeks i had to have the block replaced because if a defect. I now within the last week am having issue with it draining coolant.
Did they put a new engine in it right after you bought it is what I'm seeing in your comment and now it has more problems again how many miles on your car now. I'm kind off worried that when they replaced our engine it may go out again. Thanks please let me know .
Yes it should be a recall, I have the 2019 ford fusion titanium and as soon as it hit 67k miles the same issue happened to me, after 65k the warranty is invalid. I loved the car and took care of it just for that engine issue to happen to it.
I hate that this happened to you!! We got very lucky that my car was still under warranty. I remember when Linus told me that the car needed a new engine (and how much it was going to cost). I literally broke down in tears in the middle of the kitchen!!! Linus is a retired mechanic, and always takes wonderful care of our vehicles.
2015-2020 to be sure lol
Do you still have the car and adding coolant?
Yes we do Ford put a New Engine in it covered by warranty.
My daughter's 2015 had a misfire in the 3rd cylinder. I thought I just needed to change the spark plugs but when I saw the coolant low I knew it was more.
Yep. Sounds familiar! Sorry you're having to deal with it too.
Had one. 2017 model Fusion. GREAT roadtrip vehicle. HUGE P.O.S mechanically.
We really haven't had any other problems except the engine and was lucky Ford put a new one in right before the warranty expired. Thanks for the comment
2018 Ford edge . 87 k mil same problem. Out of warranty. Ford cop. Know’s about this issue since 2015 still selling this 💩💩🚙 . Don’t care . 🤷 stay away . Lost 💴.
Sorry to hear that Ford is supposed to have a Class Action Suite against them but I can't seem to find the correct info anymore. Good Luck and I would do alot of digging to see what you can find..Thanks Again for the comment
Sorry to hear that on your car we were really lucky but I do believe that there is a Class Action Law Suite out there still I would dig around and see what you can find ..Thanks for the comment and Good Luck..
It’s a ford when did they last build a motor worth anything yep the 300 six early 1960
Yes on the earlier models of the eco boost engine, they had block issues with water intrusion and redesigned the block again, still bad quality from Ford 🇬🇧
I agree
Bad design....
I knew this was an issue, but I thought they redesigned them before 2018 to fix it. This sucks, I need a new car, I have a Ford dealer a mile from my home, I loved my old Ranger, and 85 Bronco before that, bot great vehicles. So I also heard the old Escape had a great hybrid system which lasted forever, I wonder if that's still decent.
I not sure about the older Escape but they 2.0 also has turbo issue the pipe for oil is so close the manifold that it heats up the oil and bakes it so the turbo starves for oil and then quits working..
Skrew ford
My wife's 2016 Ford Edge finally died after 196K miles back in July of this year. I guess we were lucky to go that far. Around 90K miles in early 2021, she started getting cylinder #3 misfire faults. Took it to the shop & they changed all of the spark plugs. Okay, figured nearing 100K, it probably was due. Around 135K & 159K, it did it again? Shop changed plugs both time's & coil pack again. I thought that it was odd going through spark plugs & getting cylinder #3 misfires. Shop couldn't figure it out? Never had coolant loss unless they were topping it off during oil changes?? This July it finally went. Wife was blowing white smoke out of exhaust, with coolant loss in the reservoir. Replacement Jasper motor is $7K!! They're on hold right now, due to Ford? I'm looking to do an engine & tranny swap if it's possible? Looking for a wrecked 2020 - 2023 drive train. I don't know about programming & electronic differences?
@antcrow7424 Getting the transmission programed from something older to new might require a different computer also the engine if it's different most likely the same problem. We are concerned about our transmission holding up in the long run the new engine seems to be ok right now but who nows anymore all the dealers want to do is get you out of there hair or sell you a new car . Ford has really had a tremendous amount of problems with a number of cars and truck including a new recall of ford truck covering over 90,000 trucks that are f150 Ford Is Recalling 90,736 Vehicles With EcoBoost V-6 Engines I just hope they get things straighten out our there going to loose alot of customers. Thank for the comment and good luck we also cover reviews on camping if your interested please Like and Subscribe. Linus & Dana
Just bought my 2017 edge from a used car dealer 2 weeks ago. Dealer won't do anything it was as "as is" sale. next day engine light came on misfires in cylinder #4 coolant leaking into cylinder...what a junk design... Ford fixed the design for newer models but the rest of us have to pay 6k + for new engines!!! Ford needs a recall!!!!
@joeyw.377 That's ashame car dealers know that these engine are junk and are pushing them off there lots I would report them to the BBB and do a big bad review on there website I'm sure they have one. Places just don't care anymore I don't get it.. You can put a head gasket on it and it will last awhile but it's a big job if you don't mechanic Do a video on the car and put it on there site. Do it in the morning after it's cold it should smoke white then show the engine light on. Good Luck Sorry..
Isn’t there a 30 day lemon law? They should have to give you your money back for the car at the very least if the car didn’t last 30 days
@WiteNight Most Dealers would work out something But if it's AS IS NO WARRANTY you take a big chance.
There is no lemon law for used car dealers in Florida
We just found this issue with my wife's 2017 Ford Escape. It doesn't have warranty so I either replace the engine myself, replace the car, or wait for the lawsuit.
So sorry yours isn't under warranty...we were lucky that ours was just under the wire!!! Do a little research and see if Ford is fixing some that are out of warranty. Call your dealership and maybe get a phone number for Ford. Good luck!
Also you might try replacing the head gaskets. It's a major job, but it solves the problem with some engines.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 hate to bring bad news but the ford company is not fixing any cars out of warranty, I called and got told I was crap out of luck, and the head gasket may fix it for 10k miles but because of the engine heating and cooling with every time it’s used it’ll have the same problems very soon, I asked the local dealership and they said it would be best to just replace the engine, mine is currently sitting in my driveway unable to be used because it sucked every ounce of coolant into my motor and I’m afraid it’s hydro locked.
replace the engine yourself and take ford to small claims, make sure you have all the documentation , grab the TSB for this issue as well it shows that they knew about the issue and refused to do the right thing and have a recall. you can sue them up to $10k in small claims.
We just traded the car in on a brand new Mitsubishi. I do hope I can still be part of the class action and recover some of my money spent on cooling issues
Good luck!!!!@@pscherry78
That engine can be replaced by Ford with a new one with the new block design that doesn't have the slot between the cylinders. Any coolant loss on the new ones usually is indicative of a leaky oil cooler which can be repaired without having to replace the engine.
The Engine was replaced by Ford under warranty with the new block design and is running great now.
Wow. I wasn't so lucky. I'm 20k outside my warranty and stuck with a $5000 Bill. Hopefully I can sue. It's just not right for them to leave me hanging like this after paying it off.
Think about this! Try selling a car that has a bad habit with leaking head gaskets between cylinders because of inadequate clamping force . In other words, the head will not stay flat on the block, causing failure. Oil and water isn't bad. Water just causes rust. But antifreeze in motor oil will wipe the bearings in no time flat. Ask me how I know? And resale value is a joke!
We were so lucky on this only a week away from warranty running out new engine installed and no cost but get this no warranty on new engine at all past your original warranty date. I hope you get in on the lawsuit on this and get a big refund.
[“:For will not do anything about this situation, Ford Knowingly, Intentionally, and Maliciously, Sold Numerous Vehicles, with this Motor/Engine, having Knowledge and Knowing very well, that at some point, that this issue will arise.”]…
I don't really know that that's true but they replaced my engine under warranty and the car is running great.
My wifes 2015 2.0 uses coolant too but its not real bad. I have to add about a quart every couple months. Now it need a new valve cover gasket and it leaks gear fluid from the ptu. It has 150,000 miles and still runs pretty good all considering. I wouldn't be sad if i woke up one morning and the car was because someone stole it.
I hate that I would still look into the Class Action Suite and see what you can find out the milage really shouldn't matter I think because it's probably been burning antifreeze for a long time. Good luck.
2018 Ford Edge with 55k miles; less than 30 days out of warranty; I’m pleading with Ford to assist with the $7300 engine replacement; not looking good for me.
@PsalmEightyEight I would tell them I want a service representative involved and get that number and talk to them especially if you less than 30 days over warranty
Worst case go in ebay and I found a 2.0 eco boost engine with around 10k miles for 1200$ believe it or not the engine is easier to replace than doing the head gasket
I got 47K on the dodge. 6K on the toyota. no miles on the chevy. not sure any are good.
ecoboast is junk
Ford ended up giving me warranty on the engine by replacing it with a newer style block with more head surface, I do understand they are really pushing alot of horsepower out of these small engines but everyone of the manufacturers have turbo boost engine now days and I would rather have a gas powered car or truck than a electric car my own opinion. Thanks for your comment.
Same problem with 2016 ford escape titanium. Bought brand new 7 miles on it, changed oil religiously. F,... .........FORD, won't buy another new one ever
Sorry to here about your car I know there has been quite a lot of bad engine in every manufacturer out there..it sad no quality control. Thanks for the comment
@hitchinupmovinon8386 If the heads and gasket could be fixed, I wouldn't even care as much. Their fix is a new long block @ 12grand. Car not even worth 12 grand
@CamoAmmoWildlifeAdventures We were lucky I guess caught it just in time. The warranty was almost out had 5 days left on it .. they replaced the whole engine but you never know if it's going to hold up also.
@hitchinupmovinon8386 every car I have ever had you could get heads machined and new head gasket installed for roughly 3 grand. Ford can fall off the map for all I care,.....I was looking at a new Ford truck before all this. Glad it happened before I bought another pile of trash.......Never Ford guy here now
@@7orrest7erguson I'm considering a used 2016 Escape Titanium. Guess this is pass. I called Ford service to ask what they think just before I researched online, the service advisor said run. He also said they have trans and power steering issues when they get older, very costly. I have a Ford F150 with the 6.2L. Those are pretty indestructible. They cost a fortune used, for good reason.
I wasn't so lucky. I was 20,000 Miles outside of my warranty. Hopefully I can sue to get my $5,000 back.
I'm so sorry that your car is out of warranty we got lucky but I do believe there is a lawsuit on this still. Good luck.
Thanks for responding and posting a link. I actually work on my own vehicles and never experienced anything like this. Just glad my girlfriend didn't have it on a long road trip. I'm starting to dislike Ford as much as I dislike Home owners Associations😂
Warranty is only a guide line, if its a major failure they have to cover it. This sorry you out of warranty is rubbish. By law they must assist if within reasonable time. Jump on the class action suit.
@@nic_red02 Class actions are ok, however, sometimes it can take years and people sometimes only end up with a small settlement in the class actions. Lawyers and Ford work deals behind the close doors.
@@awareness2remember Fully agree mate! Not ideal, way better if Ford just coughs up admits their liability and do right by every person they have done in.
I just took my 2018 into the shop and I found out I have the same issue
@@MelissaWatkins-ku8nm
Booooo. 👎🏻
Research it...there is a TSB on it.
Yes there is it is to replace the whole engine the head on the block was cut wrong and doesn't allow enough surface for the head gasket and it causes a antifreeze leak at gasket then it burns antifreeze and ruins the engine completely. I showed it inn the video. thanks
I'm pretty sure they know about the problem an do nothing about it but Honda or Toyota
They pretty sure they did know there was a problem but I'm sure they didn't want to recall every car that had this engine in it but as I understand there is a class action suite against ford . Thanks for the comment
My ‘18 2.0 Edge with 105k miles started shaking at startup recently and after a couple days a check engine light is now on and it’s reading P0301 misfire. So it’s a misfire in cylinder #1. The coolant was low too. I added coolant and replaced the spark plug but after driving a couple days, check engine light is back on and coolant is low again 🤬
I'm sure it has the same block problem and you should look for the class action law suite and join it right away.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 Will do. Thanks
Head gasket most likely. Had same issue 2016 Escape. Their fix is a new long block. 12 grand. Won't even do head gasket
2015 ford edge 2.0 sel. 159k miles and little coolant loss here n there. Change spark plugs every 30k miles and oil every 3-5k miles with lucas stabilizer. Have to add coolant here n there but it runs fine
New tranny at 127k miles. Now changing that fluid every 25k miles
good luck with that engine oil asphalt,, your variable timing solenoid will thank you for it... when it stops working and your engine does the same thig... it will be quite noisy when this happens
@randellgribben9772 been changing oil with stabilizer every 3k miles since there is fuel dilution, runs so smooth and quiet. Original turbos, no turbo chatter . Doing that since 80k miles.
@randellgribben9772 use stabilizer on all my vehicals. Not one single problem. Ever.
I noticed this video is 4 months old so what have you been doing, adding coolant or did you get it fixed
Ford replaced the engine the next week under warranty we were within 2 days of our warranty expiring. We were luck and I wanted get the news out about the problem with this engine . Thanks
Did Ford put a new short/long block in under warranty?
New complete long block the head and short block are different
Same issue with my 2017 Ford Escape. 94,000km (under 60,000 miles) No.2 Cylinder. Bought car at Ford Dealer December 2024. They went straight to Ford Corp replied, they replacing with a new engine. Problem fixed in engines 2020 later. Perth, Australia 🇦🇺
I do believe that some dealerships just don't want to go the extra mile to turn it in. They really don't make any money on warranty..
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 true, they have insurances for stuff like this but apparently they put in goodwill claim with Ford. I know I'm lucky but it helps.... one thing I've learnt is do your research prior to buying any vehicle....
@@nic_red02 I did the research on my wife's 2017 Escape SE 2.0. There were no squawk's about that engine when purchases. But as time went on, FMC found that their block design was a fail. Their line of Eco-Boost engines were sucking water between the cylinders. That would have to be a massive recall and financial loss for FMC to replace faulty short blocks that were leaking coolants. The Escape only has 39,000 miles and I've changed the anti-freeze, retightened the head bolts and prayed for a clean exhaust pipe. Keeping our Escape for 10 years will kill my resale value, I think FMC should admit there inherit problems and replace these engines free of cost to the original owners.
@@nic_red02 I never saw a FMC add advertising a bad block from their factory. FMC forgot to tell owners about their flaw. They need to replace their horrible parts free.
@@robertdavis6708if Ford didn't do the right thing I would've taken further and jumped in on the class action... for now I feel Blessed and grateful and praying everyone else gets their vehicles fixed or at least Ford doing the right thing to everyone.
Luckily this was covered by my warranty. A new engine has been ordered and should be in soon!
Wonderful
Change your spark plugs?
It had a blown head gasket plugs wouldn't help.
I understand this was corrected in the 2020 models.
Not really sure but the engine they replaced it with was a different block with a different design at the head.
That's where the problem is, the coolant channel on top of the block.@@hitchinupmovinon8386
You should not have an issue in the following vehicles if they are made AFTER the dates listed below. The dates below are from the Ford TSB about the problem and show that vehicles built before those listed dates could have the problem.
2017-2019 Fusion/MKZ built on or before 8-Apr-2019
- 2017-2019 Escape built on or before 16-May-2019
- 2017-2019 MKC built on or before 18-Apr-2019
There is a white sticker on the left side of motor, what does it say? VEP or Cleveland OH? Left side on top
It says VEP But this is the new engine that they put in not the original that went bad.
It means the new engine was built at the Cleveland engine assembly plant. Alot of great engines were built there!👍
I got a new replacement engine for my 2017 Escape after the first one failed for coolant intrusion. The new replacement engine was manufactured in March, 2023.
SURPRISE!!!!! The check engine light has come on after 8k miles on the new engine! I took it to Autozone and the read the error. P0300, Random Misfire.
Do you think it is possible that I have the same problem again and the new engine has also failed with coolant intrusion?
If it's the new block style the surface on the block where it meets the head should be different than the original giving it more surface for the Head Gasket to seal so it should of taken care of the problem but you never know what ford might have done because of all the warranty claims they are going to have to cover . So I'm really not sure but I would check with Ford Dealership or go right to a Representative for Ford .
Ok so we are planning to buy a second hand 2017 ford escape titanium 2.0 engine with 110k mileage on it because we need a car to go to our job, it gas a carfax with continous maintenance and no major issue yet, should we go for it or just run?
If it's got the 2.0 EcoBoost turbo, and the engine has not been replaced, I would not buy it!
@@danaschmid3670 Ok so the dealer said that they will put in 36k miles of above and beyond powertrain warranty engine and transmission included, would it be enough? Appreciate the advice thanks
@@TheTokzter027 That would certainly help, but it's still a big chance to take. (Sorry it took so long to answer this. Linus had open heart surgery (quintuple bypass) two weeks ago, and that's all we've been concentrating on.)
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 not a problem, appreciate for taking the time to reply, apparently i backed out and selected another suv with a 70k mileage.. Hope he will recover soon and back to good health. Godbless 🙏
@@TheTokzter027 glad you didn't get it!
The Ford Escape 2017, 2018, 2019 have the up and down grooves on the engine block and that is what the issue is.
It's a faulty design and causes coolant intrusion and in many cases, the person needing to spend $6K to $8K on a new engine.
It's also why you'll see many 2017, 2018, 2019 Ford Escape's in the 45,000 to 60,000 mile range, priced relatively lower.
So, the buyer thinks, wow, what a deal!!
No. Do not get those years, period.
Good luck.
Hi Robert we were very fortunate to have still been in warranty and Ford replaced the whole engine..
Im having the same issue, how many complaints would it take to the NHTSA.gov to get it recalled?
That's a great question . Here is what I see online
www.fordecoboostlawsuit.com/
There is currently 448 complaints mine just added. Just out of warranty. I also hear after the engine is replaced the trans soon follows
@samanthaj7131 There was supposed to be class action law suite on this but not sure what is going on now. We also worry about the transmission getting ready to have it serviced 67000 miles.
@@hitchinupmovinon8386 yes I called regarding the law suit but it’s been going for years. It’s out of CA. Ford needs to recall this vehicle period. The engine and the transmission is bad? That’s the whole vehicle. It’s really sad..I loved this suv. My first and last Ford.
@samanthaj7131 Our has a new engine in it we got lucky and just caught it in time littery 1 week away from out of warranty. I was a mechanic for Ford and noticed problems with the coolant and a little smoke so I checked it out . We wanted to put a hitch on the back of it to pull our boat sometimes but I know that the transmissions aren't that strong so we just take care of it and I keep it maintained.