The bracing difference will have just as much impact as the scale. The 1/4” bracing on the OM makes it just as different as the d-28 vs d-35. 000 has 5/16” bracing. Scale length is an additional difference, but the bracing is arguably the main one as far as tone.
I want to be Corey Congilio when I grow up! Well, too late, but I'd love to play like him. He's a really gifted musician; they are lucky to have him. Keep up the stellar work!
Hey Cory loved your demos at Fishman, I purchased a performer and mini charge because of your demos. Great to see you over at Martin. I’m researching the 00028 currently! We’ll see! Probably put a fishman system on it.
I thought the Om was a bit more rich sounding in the strumming section but I really couldn't tell enough of a difference to form an opinion for finger picking.
@@juana1483 Definitely easier than the dreadnaught I was using! I had to wait months for the store to have the OM-28 and the 000-28 at the same time, so I could do a proper side-by-side comparison. As I recall, the length difference was barely noticeable. But something about the 000 spoke to me more, and I'm a strummer, not a fingerstyle guy.
Although the OM has more bite to it coz of the projection, the 000 is more pronounced in every tune.. more clarity in other word.. I wish the projection of the OM is in the 000, i like 000 for playability frets closer than OM easy for finger style and finger pick to play broken chords..
@@Britalex not true sir, the OM has a longer scale length which results in more string tension. This results in more projection and a better strummer. The 000 has a short scale which decreases the tension and the space between frets, optimal for fingerstyle.
Regardless of how engineered or designed I totally agree with the sound (this OM better for strumming, this 000 better for finger). At least as it sounded to my ears, perhaps it was just his playing style for each technique.
Get the OM and change out the top e and g strings with ones that are one gauge lighter. You will get the power and clarity of the OM with comfortable playability.
How is it that the OM is imitated so much but the 000 so much less? There are so many guitar builders selling 25.4' (or even longer) OM-type guitars but very few selling guitars with the shorter scale length.
@@IndigoJo Larivee is a beautiful instrument too. I love Lakewoods too but their tone is just a bit too modern and crisp to me, not enough vintage character. I can't afford a Bourgious either at the moment but a man can dream. I wish you luck in the pursuit of your perfect guitar. Rock on
Hey, it's Corey!!! 1st impression OM shines for strumming & 000 is more focused fingerstyle. OM finger style is more spread out. 000 finger extenuates the top notes with more of a clear ring. Interesting looks like they are both 14 fret so the shorter scale of the 000 would put the bridge higher up closer to the sound hole dampening some of the resonance that is if the length of the bodies were the same...Most short scales I've seen are with the 12 fret at the body so this is interesting...
I think I’m just gonna have to play it. I can’t quite get a good feel for the differences watching somebody else play it on a RUclips video and listening to it on my phone. Just not the same. I need to hold it, feel the vibrations around my body, feel the strings under my fingers and the neck in my hand. I really don’t see how anyone can possibly get enough of the idea of the sound of an instrument on a RUclips video and on a handheld device. Sure, it’s very pleasurable sound to hear but, for buying it? Maybe if I use some earbuds. Even then, how do you know it’s not a recording trick? Just my thoughts.
Well go into a store and try to find them both. Good luck. You don’t just find these high end Martins laying around your local Guitar Center getting whaled on in drop d by a bunch of 9th graders. You watch these video to get a sense of which direction you want to go in, order the guitar, pay for it, then determine if it’s the right fit and whether you’ll keep it or not.
@@matthewrammig yeah. It's like shoes. You can't get 'em online. Guitars are intimate objects that demand up close personal attention. The same model is different from guitar to guitar. I just got another Martin and went for the 000-28 instead of some others I thought sounded better because the neck is so unusually fast and easy for an acoustic. I will say this though.....Corey doesn't have a mic rammed up right in front of the sound hole, which most demos do, because of course they digitally add stuff, a little reverb here, a little treble there......and since I own one, I can say he has the integrity to present a pretty accurate idea of reality. That said, I agree with your previous reply. There is NO WAY unless you try several that are in your hands, no way at all. Once I bought what looked perfect online, some expensive vintage thing, and yeah, when it came it was 70 years old and looked almost mint, but it just didn't sound anywhere near as good as it looked and I ended up selling it. Due diligence is vital, especially in our bloated hyperinflated insanely pricey market, or you will regret it because the physics of money is to rip us all off one way or another, this whole place is founded on theft. You can ONLY trust your own ears and hands in this particular area.
Bro you look like Doc Holiday on Tombstone?? I'll take the 24.9 anytime.. I love 24.75 even more because it's So, so much easier on the fingers. I'm going to try an experiment and tune my 25.5s down, and capo on 1st fret and see??
@@lindsayheywood7195 u lose too much the open strings etc. its the construction of the instrument that really makes the difference I have standrd and short scale guitars! love em both!!
You’re supposed to play right behind the edge of the soundhole so that the mic can pick up the majority of the sound spectrum of the guitars, if you block the soundhole, you’re blocking what the mic can pick up
@@onixtheone dead wrong. it is a misconception that the soundhole is responsible for the sound that comes OUT of the guitar. Rather, the soundhole is responsible for the primary vibration of the strings going IN to the guitar. The soundhole is like a giant pickup. The strings vibrate, the primary vibration shoots into the soundhole, then the sound bounces around and is colored by the back and sides/reverberates through the neck wood etc, then the TOP vibrates, just like a speaker cone, which is where your actual sound comes from. It's actually very bad to mic the soundhole of an acoustic. you get nothing but mud. You want to mic the 12th fret, the upper bout on the treble side, and maybe double mic at the butt or the bridge for some added treble or bass. This dude plays too close to the bridge. It sounds like a farting piezo electric acoustic. Defeats the purpose of an acoustic because he is restricting the movement of the strings.
2:16 000 strumming/picking
3:27 OM strumming/picking
4:12 OM fingerstyle
4:41 000 fingerstyle
The bracing difference will have just as much impact as the scale. The 1/4” bracing on the OM makes it just as different as the d-28 vs d-35. 000 has 5/16” bracing. Scale length is an additional difference, but the bracing is arguably the main one as far as tone.
I want to be Corey Congilio when I grow up! Well, too late, but I'd love to play like him. He's a really gifted musician; they are lucky to have him. Keep up the stellar work!
Hey Cory loved your demos at Fishman, I purchased a performer and mini charge because of your demos. Great to see you over at Martin. I’m researching the 00028 currently! We’ll see! Probably put a fishman system on it.
4:42 OM is swaying to the tune of his 000 bro’.
Also I believe the bracing are different widths
you're a terrific player sir !! wow
And for 2020 Martin teamed up with Fishman for a very unique pickup system. I like the 000-28e Modern Deluxe.
000-28 perfect blues machine
Come on, man!
They are both top notch Martin’s.
Ya can’t lose.
Thanks Cory, that was great!
I thought the Om was a bit more rich sounding in the strumming section but I really couldn't tell enough of a difference to form an opinion for finger picking.
I bought the 000 last year and it's Heaven.
You really think the 24.9 is noticeably easier?
@@juana1483 Definitely easier than the dreadnaught I was using! I had to wait months for the store to have the OM-28 and the 000-28 at the same time, so I could do a proper side-by-side comparison. As I recall, the length difference was barely noticeable. But something about the 000 spoke to me more, and I'm a strummer, not a fingerstyle guy.
Although the OM has more bite to it coz of the projection, the 000 is more pronounced in every tune.. more clarity in other word..
I wish the projection of the OM is in the 000, i like 000 for playability frets closer than OM easy for finger style and finger pick to play broken chords..
Love the sound of the G string on the OM model more than on the 000
I own a 000 and an OM. the OM rarely comes out of the case. However, my most played guitar is my M-16GT.
Damn exactly my feeling. 16GT extremely under rated Martin !!!
awsome playing !! wow
have the Martin stnd OOO-42 and a Huss Dalton OM-42 in sinker mahogany/Adi > both are dream guitars ❣❣
Gudd demo thanks 😎
To my ears, the OM is a better strummer while the OOO has the edge on Fingerstyle with its more Folksy tone.
That's the opposite way round to what these guitars were made for ;) . But interested in your thoughts
@@Britalex not true sir, the OM has a longer scale length which results in more string tension. This results in more projection and a better strummer. The 000 has a short scale which decreases the tension and the space between frets, optimal for fingerstyle.
@@paultiplea it actually is true. The Om has wider string spacing at the bridge to accommodate fingerstyle.
Regardless of how engineered or designed I totally agree with the sound (this OM better for strumming, this 000 better for finger). At least as it sounded to my ears, perhaps it was just his playing style for each technique.
@@MShu-ux6wl You're probably right! 💯
What about the wider nut width of the OM which is often preferred by fingerstyle players…
nice picking!
Very helpful thank you.
I prefer the 000 both strummed and finger picked. Tighter, better mids, not as bassy, very pleasant to listen to, not forceful.
Nice - thanks! Now please do a comparo of the 000 and OM in the Modern Deluxe series (and/or compare them to the Standard Series models).
Modern Deluxes have the aged/torrified top. Fuller sound.
great playing man.... the OM28 sounds the sweetest...
I own both, plus 7 other Martins. The best sounding of all is the M36
I like the sound of the OM but the playability of the 000, what to do...
Playability is the priority
Get the OM and change out the top e and g strings with ones that are one gauge lighter. You will get the power and clarity of the OM with comfortable playability.
How is it that the OM is imitated so much but the 000 so much less? There are so many guitar builders selling 25.4' (or even longer) OM-type guitars but very few selling guitars with the shorter scale length.
Great question. I cant find a 000 style from Bourgeois to save my life
ScopedDawg Would be happy with a Larrivée or Furch, Bourgeois is well out of my price range.
@@IndigoJo Larivee is a beautiful instrument too. I love Lakewoods too but their tone is just a bit too modern and crisp to me, not enough vintage character. I can't afford a Bourgious either at the moment but a man can dream. I wish you luck in the pursuit of your perfect guitar. Rock on
@@socialmeaslesinpartnership1252 J45s do; J200s have a 25.5in scale length.
Man I really like Corey's style. He plays his whole stinkin' body, not just the guitar.
000 has a slightly mellower, sweeter tone... OM has better projection, loves the flatpick.... just as one would expect
Hey, it's Corey!!! 1st impression OM shines for strumming & 000 is more focused fingerstyle. OM finger style is more spread out. 000 finger extenuates the top notes with more of a clear ring. Interesting looks like they are both 14 fret so the shorter scale of the 000 would put the bridge higher up closer to the sound hole dampening some of the resonance that is if the length of the bodies were the same...Most short scales I've seen are with the 12 fret at the body so this is interesting...
Maybe if they were both the same body size but they're not. The bridge is put it the optimal spot on the top on both guitars.
A half inch difference in scale length isn’t a big deal. If you want less or more string tension just use different strings.
seth street Shut up leftist
The half inch is significant you just cant tell yourself.
Sounds like the OM needs to be the D28 really. The 000 sounds tighter for the bluesy and fingerpicking stuff.
I think I’m just gonna have to play it. I can’t quite get a good feel for the differences watching somebody else play it on a RUclips video and listening to it on my phone. Just not the same. I need to hold it, feel the vibrations around my body, feel the strings under my fingers and the neck in my hand. I really don’t see how anyone can possibly get enough of the idea of the sound of an instrument on a RUclips video and on a handheld device. Sure, it’s very pleasurable sound to hear but, for buying it? Maybe if I use some earbuds. Even then, how do you know it’s not a recording trick? Just my thoughts.
Well go into a store and try to find them both. Good luck. You don’t just find these high end Martins laying around your local Guitar Center getting whaled on in drop d by a bunch of 9th graders.
You watch these video to get a sense of which direction you want to go in, order the guitar, pay for it, then determine if it’s the right fit and whether you’ll keep it or not.
@@matthewrammig yeah. It's like shoes. You can't get 'em online. Guitars are intimate objects that demand up close personal attention. The same model is different from guitar to guitar. I just got another Martin and went for the 000-28 instead of some others I thought sounded better because the neck is so unusually fast and easy for an acoustic. I will say this though.....Corey doesn't have a mic rammed up right in front of the sound hole, which most demos do, because of course they digitally add stuff, a little reverb here, a little treble there......and since I own one, I can say he has the integrity to present a pretty accurate idea of reality. That said, I agree with your previous reply. There is NO WAY unless you try several that are in your hands, no way at all. Once I bought what looked perfect online, some expensive vintage thing, and yeah, when it came it was 70 years old and looked almost mint, but it just didn't sound anywhere near as good as it looked and I ended up selling it. Due diligence is vital, especially in our bloated hyperinflated insanely pricey market, or you will regret it because the physics of money is to rip us all off one way or another, this whole place is founded on theft. You can ONLY trust your own ears and hands in this particular area.
Man can he play the guitar!
2:15 3:26
I prefer the 000.
Bro you look like Doc Holiday on Tombstone??
I'll take the 24.9 anytime.. I love 24.75 even more because it's So, so much easier on the fingers.
I'm going to try an experiment and tune my 25.5s down, and capo on 1st fret and see??
doesnt work that way unfortunately
@@soofitnsexy curious why not?
@@lindsayheywood7195 a capo does not make a short scale guitar
@@lindsayheywood7195 u lose too much the open strings etc. its the construction of the instrument that really makes the difference I have standrd and short scale guitars! love em both!!
@@soofitnsexy thanks
Bang bang the hell out of the guitar
Why on earth use Aging Toner. Have some patience, the natural spruce top colours up beautifully given TIME . . .
Why would you want to wait 20+ years for the guitar to realize it’s no longer a tree?
@@onixtheone doesn't take 20 years bro
@@onixtheone You have displayed your ignorance in one post.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...........................
Looks like you're coming off the crack. Way to go, kid! Keep playing...
dude YOU PLAY TOO CLOSE TO THE BRIDGE. We cannot hear the actual tone of the guitars.
I've got the 000-28 and I can confirm it sounds a lot better than this guy makes it sound. Way too close to the bridge.
Exactly my thought! Thanks for pointing out
You’re supposed to play right behind the edge of the soundhole so that the mic can pick up the majority of the sound spectrum of the guitars, if you block the soundhole, you’re blocking what the mic can pick up
@@onixtheone dead wrong. it is a misconception that the soundhole is responsible for the sound that comes OUT of the guitar. Rather, the soundhole is responsible for the primary vibration of the strings going IN to the guitar. The soundhole is like a giant pickup. The strings vibrate, the primary vibration shoots into the soundhole, then the sound bounces around and is colored by the back and sides/reverberates through the neck wood etc, then the TOP vibrates, just like a speaker cone, which is where your actual sound comes from.
It's actually very bad to mic the soundhole of an acoustic. you get nothing but mud. You want to mic the 12th fret, the upper bout on the treble side, and maybe double mic at the butt or the bridge for some added treble or bass.
This dude plays too close to the bridge. It sounds like a farting piezo electric acoustic. Defeats the purpose of an acoustic because he is restricting the movement of the strings.