@@TheRan-DomOne They added several features players have been asking for YEARS, plus made it better with interesting new designs. And they listen to feedback, unlike the elitists devs/management at corpo Blizzard with their weird OW "two" features that are worse than the original OW.
And Sony really looked at that abomination and thought they had a Starwars level of an IP on their hands. It just shows how disconnected and up their own butts they are.
They could have made a new Parappa or Vib ribbon, or even a new Sly cooper, but no, let’s make a game that costs $400 million, force the whole team to work late nights, shut it down after 2 weeks, and lay off the entire team, making their work go to waste and potentially making them homeless!
@Nguyen-Frogboyin the game industry you make a game for the majority not the minority if you wannna do a game for the minority you do it using indy budget not multi millions. We figured out the that formula a long while ago but they tried to reinvent the wheel.
Nobody wants to look at ugly people. That's not a sex sells thing, that's a common sense thing. Nobody paying market rate for a house that's painted 100% lime green inside and out. Ugly is ugly.
I really do love most of the designs and just think the characters genuinely looks awesome design-wise. What I didn't know was that the game was also made overseas in the east. Yeah, that certainly explains a lot.
Spot on. Playing Rivals gave me the same feeling i had when i played OW1 on launch week. Something that so many other hero shooters over the years haven't been able to give me.
@@andrew8168 Not to mention the Twi'lek rebel that's either implicitly trans or demonstrates nobody in development gave a toss about Star Wars (the lekku, head tentacles, of male and female Twi'lek are very obviously different, but the character clearly has female lekku)
" suggesting Marvel might benefit from outsourcing comics to Japan or Korea for better portrayal." I want to remind everyone how much of the recent(ish) stuff from Marvel people care about *was* outsourced, and some of it even outsourced to Japan! The Power Pack miniseries series that ran from 2005 to 2014? Freelancer writer with Japanese art team. Gwen Poole? Freelancer writer with the same Japanese art team. Penni Parker? The guy from My Chemical Romance writing a one shot for the novelty and shamelessly basing it off Japanese properties (the original one-shot is super shameless in how much its based on a particular subset of anime). Edit: When they gave Jeff The Landshark more than just a minor character, the art was also outsourced to Japan.
Not with 🐪 as the main character. Maybe Power Pack (since they have a history of being viewpoint characters, interesting powers, and actually have the connections to the Avengers to do any of the stuff the plot wants, and would allow there to always be a minimum of four characters present for multiplayer and banter), but not 🐫. I watched a random Irishman try it when they were practically giving the garbage away. Even knowing nothing about the character going in, before the end of the tutorial he *hated* her for exactly the same reasons comics fans did (minus the "true believer in precrime to the point of helping run an illegal kidnapping ring dressed up as a prison", because that didn't happen in the game, at least at the point he got to)
@@doge-pal That is, in fact, an *actual* thing she did in comics. During the Civil War II event when Carol Danver was putting people into illegal prisons without trial because a mutant precog thought they *might* commit a crime in the future (yes, Marvel actually thought that people would view that as anything other than super villain behavior), Kamala was her loyal HJ helping at every step of the way. Even got to the point her best friend was crippled for life trying to stop it and the writers made *him* apologize for it! It's amazing how you can ruin a character that *started* as an unwanted Wesley, but Marvel managed to do it with Kamala. Even the "cancel as publicity stunt and make a new issue number one" shenanigans couldn't produce sales for the character after that because they made her so *thoroughly* loathed.
No. The game is a guilty pleasure for me (I just recently deleted it after playing constantly since it's release). However, it had over 2,000 bugs and new ones were STILL popping up last week when I deleted it. You can't be a hit with that level of problems.
The artwork isn’t the problem. The problem is the writing. The artists (most of them) are capable of drawing the Avengers doing exciting, action packed stuff. It’s the writers who have them sitting in a trendy diner eating yummy pie. And talking about pie. And planning their next snack in advance. And if you told good, action based stories, readers would come back and you’d be able to afford to pay artists. In turn, those artists wouldn’t have to have side jobs and could spend the extra time drawing big action splash pages. It all comes back to the terrible writing and lack of editorial direction. They’ve hired “diverse” (read: cheap) writers who look up characters on Wikipedia, if that. Wikipedia can give you a bit of the characters bio, but without reading the actual comics, they don’t have any sense of the character’s personalities. That’s why every character sounds the same, acts the same, and is oh so hungry. Hungary for snacks!
Anyone else notice this is the 1st major marvel property in a long while that doesn't currently have Carol Danvers/captain marvel, Kamala Khan/Me Marvel and or any of the Marvels in it. And while their quality varies it's like the developers are aware of how they don't sell. I know hardly anyone's talked about that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they actually put them in the game later.
Ironic. After games like "Avengers" or "SS: Kill the JL" flopped miserably, "they" can't even use the excuse of saying like: "it's popular just because of Marvel/Comics/MCU".
Marvel Rivals director be like: Dear former employers, How's your game? Cool story, anyway... I heard you got no munee, no game, and no beaches. Guess what I got? Sincerely, 🖕🤑🖕
8:00 I don't think western writers will not inject the message even If the artwork is made on the east, they also need good writers focusing on lore and story instead of activism.
I feel like my Game Idea of a Grumpy Stick Figure Guy and Magician Stick Figure Girl Fighting Giant monsters in a Mario/Mega Man-like game would do better than Concord.
Concord also felt woefully small compared to a lot of hero shooters, as if they were holding themselves back for no reason. Yet for some reason we were expected to be blown away by it for what it 'represented' which was nothing other than the warning of letting faux activists run any sort of project where creativity and knowledgeable management are high priority.
Concord couldn't get character designs 101 right. None were identifiable, as in you couldn't tell who was the medic from a glance. TF2 got it right by making even the silhouettes recognizeable from afar while keeping the color palettes simple. An acquaintance of mine who had played neither game immediately got who was who in TF2, but asked me how was he meant to know that the bloke in baggy clothing is meant to be a medic.
I mean, it's not just the fact that it was an Overwatch clone, I wanted a game like Overwatch after what Blizz did to OW2, it just has to be a good one. It's not just the character designs. The combat mechanics and movement kits with each character feel a lot better and smoother in Rivals. Spiderman, Iron man, Hawkeye, Punisher, etc feel good and fun to play and the different abilties and ults feel good to use. I noticed how Concord felt slow and clunky just as a game. You constantly felt like you were running through molasses. The shooting didn't feel good, each characters abilities felt poor to use, clunky hit detection, etc, it felt bad and awkward. If you want to make a game like Overwatch, you have to make it fun and fast paced and make sure the abilities for each character feel good to use. You need to make sure getting a kill and taking an objective for example feels satisfying for the player. Concord just did not feel good to play, it wasn't fun...it seemed like a programming/coder issue.
And another contributor to its success is that the team seems to have a love for the characters and Marvel as a whole. We have things like being able to do a Fast Ball Special and characters like Galacta showing up. While it might not happen, but I hope that this and the new Ultimate Universe is a wake up call for Disney to have people who love their IPs to work on them.
Rivals has Jeff to throw me off the map while Concord doesn't... or should I say "didn't" kakakakaka Also, I don't like the idea of outsourcing everything to JP or KR. It might cause a loss in art style
Until Western Studios can make attractive characters again, it is for the best for games to be outsourced to Japan and South Korea for character design.
@ they just refuse to make attractive women for some reason. Hell, at this point, just make them not look insultingly ugly and I would be fine. They don’t even have to look super hot
Rivals is not just a copy of overwatch, here you have not that many running around with guns, you have heroes that has to go into melee range to attack. The game need more games mode because the stay in the square mode is too complicated for people.
I downloaded Marvel Rivals because it was free to play, but also noticed a bunch Tiktokers and Vtubers are also playing. They probably had sponsorships to shill for the game before it came out, but I think that kind of campaign is definitely aimed at kids. So the kids are excited to play it.
What's funny is I don't even focus on how attractive the female characters are (aside from Squirrel Girl ayo). It simply has a unique aesthetic where if i saw one of the characters, I could immediately identify they are specifically from the game. Not only that, but the game is so much fun to play
Part of it is there is some fans of Overwatch that got burned to often by Blizzard. They are looking for something similar that doesn't have as much baggage.
"China's gaming success shows Disney the value of relatable characters, suggesting Marvel might benefit from outsourcing comics to Japan or Korea for better portrayal." Or better yet, hire domestic writers who know the characters, know the material, appreciate the material, and know how to f*cking write!
Concord had nothing, while Rivals has so many different things pulling me in. Even if not looking at characters that actually get to look attractive, look at their ability designs! Look at what silly bs you can do! Doctor strange sending a soon-to-explode scarlet witch through a portal right into the backline, Jeff eating an entire team to jump off the ledge, Star Lord getting his real hero moment of annihilating the backline with his pistols, swinging with spider man and so on... You get to actually have fun, its not just a generic shooter again!
It's not about Unique Value. A game can be 100% unique and if you don't want to play as the character within the game that uniqueness won't change anything. Marvel Rivals isn't unque but it started with at least characters people wanted to try out and play. It being somewhat soild helped it stay around. It's not perfect by any means. If your going to make a hero shooter the frist thing you need is the characters and that what marvel has with it's IP. Yes, they could still have screwed up by having bad design for them but for the most part they are good. When I look at something like concord I didn't even see a single character I wanted to play compared to like first season overwatch. Which I wanted to try to like many but found which ones I really liked and which ones I didn't over time.
Rivals also plays in 3rd person which is far better than then OW's 1st person. Also easier to justify buying a skin as you can actually see your character using it outside of just emoting and intros/outros as is the case in Overwatch.
It's almost like people want characters with cool and dynamic designs. I have no complaints about any of the characters in Rivals, even Wolverine kinda grew on me with his weirdly stocky design. Hell, Marvel Rivals even took Squirrel Girl, the joke character who morphed into the icon of comic book Tumblrization, and made her appealing.
Oh one more thing. No flat chest at storm. I had a huge crush on her forever when they did that it made me want to fucking cry. Can't believe they did that beautiful woman.
Dude beer gut store was cool especially when he was bearded after all it's closer to the actual character than marvels I would love to have that as a skin.
Not sure it's good idea to keep roasting Sony when Marvel Rivals is also on PlayStation platform as well... Remember Helldivers 2 fiasco with PC players? 🤔
There's no way they could get away with making Storm look like a Cincord tier troll. Her fanbase treats her like a queen and they'd have lost their damn mind.
Fun fact, China has it's own mythical and legendary heroes who are usually portrayed as extremely masculine (for men) and angelically beautiful (for women) and today that beauty standard largely holds up today although pretty boys are also a thing now in China. It does not surprise me that when making Marvel Rivals they applied that mindset to the characters and largely avoided the woke DEI incarnations that Western devs have churned out.
I'm just saying, I would bet there would be a few people, myself included, that would get a kick out it if they added The Dude Thor, rather than Beer Gut Thor
Man... I remember seeing that "Avengers: H day" or whatever that story was called about avengers living in opressive world... Story was slop, characters looked like something out of LSD driven schizophrenia episode and backgrounds were drawn on the level of "worst kid in art class" in 5th grade. Maybe we just need english translators so they can translate stories... But than again, we could have another "funimation" situation
Palworld replacing the sex option with a "body type" option as a joke is already bad publicity since it does not seem like a joke since there is no punchline. The recent Dragon Quest III port even confuses video game players since "Appearance A" and "Appearance B" are the only characters to pick, but the dresses can only be equipped on women, meaning that "man" and "woman" should be used on the characters instead.
@@Boss_Tiggerinsane how they look at the west and see the fanatic left instead of the majority normal gamers that are causing these studios to go bankrupt.
I honestly think Palworld deserved the lawsuit. I don’t care if it wasn’t for the designs, I just hate how smug they are. And you cannot convince me those pals weren’t made with AI
Kneon, if they outsourced the art to Japan but had western writers, we'd just have that War of the Rohirrim thing, just with comics instead of animation. And yes, China is a problem.. I admit the devs have their priorities straight, but ceding yet another industry to them isn't the way to go either. I gave up on playing Love Nikki a few years ago because I recognized where the winds were blowing, despite having a hefty collection in that game. We are being rope-a-doped. I think what needs to happen is we all need to stick to indie stuff for the next few years until these companies fire the activists and fanfic writers and get some good projects running again. Because no matter how good the game is, these companies will learn the absolute worst wrong lesson from this.
It is amazing seeing how you give players characters they love and they look, feel and play as they should be depicted in a video game people would flock and support the game. Cough, cough... Looking at you Suicide Squad. No one wanted DC characters version of a shit version of Border Lands, where everyone feels the same and are so far from their comic personas.
People do switch. Played Siege for more than 5 years. Tons of skins. Tons of season passes and even some battle passes. The straw that broke the camel's back was when it went woke.
It is an overwatch clone. However, it does have some different features that do make it better. Also, hardly any woke bullcrap. It does have hefty prices for skins.
8:00 I don't think this era's US writers are good. Have JP writers and artists since they can emulate US-styled illustrations better (see One Punch Man 's artist Yusuke Murata)
Still wish they would fix Storm's hairstyle. This Fauxhawk is iconic of woke design still. And before anyone jumps on me for not being a "real fan" I was more a fan of Wolverine, cyclops, Gambit, and Jubilee than Storm.
@@EagleOneHarrier The actual punk cut doesn't stop half way. Real mohawks shave off the left and right leaving a line down the center of the head left for styling. Anything less is a poser cut.
I'm not going to lie. I think it'd be kind of fun to play a fat fat Thor for fun, but that's just me cuz again, Thor is a badass. He's a freaking God for Christ's sakes but play it is fat Thor. I'm sorry I'd be kind of fun.
That's why I play tobal no.1 and 2 videos another classic fighter video game lot better than concord. Say whatever people they want about another classic fighter video game. They bring design unique to different concepts as hidden gems.
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
You know what's very ironic about this. Marvel Rivals director USED to work at Ubisoft. Now he's the director of Marvel Rivals.
Good for him 👏🏻 He saw the ship sinking, jumped and swam to safe shores
"What's my source? Did the job." -- Thad Sasser. I mean, the name checks out.
Ubisoft also USED to be good, I guess it checks out
& all he did was copy Overwatch
@@TheRan-DomOne They added several features players have been asking for YEARS, plus made it better with interesting new designs.
And they listen to feedback, unlike the elitists devs/management at corpo Blizzard with their weird OW "two" features that are worse than the original OW.
Concord had the fake Star-Lord. Marvel Rivals had the real Star-Lord.
Plus rivals had Jeff
@@Thundercracker87-b5f Yeah, that’s one thing Concord was criticized for heavily, it tried to rip off Guardians.
Half of the concord characters were guardians rip offs
@@Saintphish Eurogamer called the game a hero shooter made by AI like ChatGPT.
@@Thundercracker87-b5fJeff is just too cute to be mad at, despite swallowing your whole team and run off the cliff😂
And Sony really looked at that abomination and thought they had a Starwars level of an IP on their hands. It just shows how disconnected and up their own butts they are.
Thats what happens when the exec surround themselves with yes men
@graemevaughey7432 True 💯
They could have made a new Parappa or Vib ribbon, or even a new Sly cooper, but no, let’s make a game that costs $400 million, force the whole team to work late nights, shut it down after 2 weeks, and lay off the entire team, making their work go to waste and potentially making them homeless!
First red flag don't it to star wars
@@thorveim1174pathetic
Customer satisfaction is key to Success in any business. That’ should be common sense 😒
They rather insult us gamers instead. It’s sad, really
Political activists and zealots care little for customer satisfaction
@@caalsigo yeah and thats why alot of the game componies are closing cuz of it.
@Nguyen-Frogboyin the game industry you make a game for the majority not the minority if you wannna do a game for the minority you do it using indy budget not multi millions.
We figured out the that formula a long while ago but they tried to reinvent the wheel.
Not when your product is being used as an indoctrination tool
Another thing Marvel rivals had that major AAA games don't have: attractive women that actually look like women.
Exactly this
Except storm
its the main reason the game is success
'Sex sells' has always been a thing but right now it's a desperation genre.
Desperate or not, 'sex sells' continues to prove the wokies wrong.
In the west mybe but in the east they are drowing in money concord lost hundreds of millions genshin made billions.
“Sex sells, Morty.”
Nobody wants to look at ugly people. That's not a sex sells thing, that's a common sense thing. Nobody paying market rate for a house that's painted 100% lime green inside and out. Ugly is ugly.
Idk man the people love when women have personality
I really do love most of the designs and just think the characters genuinely looks awesome design-wise. What I didn't know was that the game was also made overseas in the east. Yeah, that certainly explains a lot.
Aaaaah, a clue. Did any Western devs have a hand in this at all or was it all Eastern?
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid From what I read, predominately eastern.
Esg stuff just killed the western game market. It will come back but good luck with that in the next 4 years at minimum
@@rungunninja1289it wont come back. The western game studios all need to go bankrupt before we can rebuilt it.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidthis is not the wild west
Spot on.
Playing Rivals gave me the same feeling i had when i played OW1 on launch week.
Something that so many other hero shooters over the years haven't been able to give me.
Goes to show how people love attractive female characters in games
It wasn't just "Attractive females" for concord. The entire art direction and visuals were unappealing.
Attractive male characters in video games also sell.
I love you Turtle Chad
Let's not forget representation. Concord and Star Wars Hunters both had multiple black females and zero white guys.
@@andrew8168 Not to mention the Twi'lek rebel that's either implicitly trans or demonstrates nobody in development gave a toss about Star Wars (the lekku, head tentacles, of male and female Twi'lek are very obviously different, but the character clearly has female lekku)
" suggesting Marvel might benefit from outsourcing comics to Japan or Korea for better portrayal."
I want to remind everyone how much of the recent(ish) stuff from Marvel people care about *was* outsourced, and some of it even outsourced to Japan! The Power Pack miniseries series that ran from 2005 to 2014? Freelancer writer with Japanese art team. Gwen Poole? Freelancer writer with the same Japanese art team. Penni Parker? The guy from My Chemical Romance writing a one shot for the novelty and shamelessly basing it off Japanese properties (the original one-shot is super shameless in how much its based on a particular subset of anime).
Edit: When they gave Jeff The Landshark more than just a minor character, the art was also outsourced to Japan.
It's because Asia doesn't have the sjw mind rott from California that makes them draw ugly characters.
DC too😊
It's basically the complete 100% opposite of Concord....😂😅😂
I will die on this hill. If Marvel Avengers was just a single player game, snd not a GaaS title, it would have been a hit. The game was fun to play.
Not with 🐪 as the main character. Maybe Power Pack (since they have a history of being viewpoint characters, interesting powers, and actually have the connections to the Avengers to do any of the stuff the plot wants, and would allow there to always be a minimum of four characters present for multiplayer and banter), but not 🐫. I watched a random Irishman try it when they were practically giving the garbage away. Even knowing nothing about the character going in, before the end of the tutorial he *hated* her for exactly the same reasons comics fans did (minus the "true believer in precrime to the point of helping run an illegal kidnapping ring dressed up as a prison", because that didn't happen in the game, at least at the point he got to)
@@kanrakucheeseI really don't know what you said at the end of the sentence, and I don't think you do either.
Seeing with what happened with Spider-Man 2, I doubt it.
@@doge-pal That is, in fact, an *actual* thing she did in comics. During the Civil War II event when Carol Danver was putting people into illegal prisons without trial because a mutant precog thought they *might* commit a crime in the future (yes, Marvel actually thought that people would view that as anything other than super villain behavior), Kamala was her loyal HJ helping at every step of the way. Even got to the point her best friend was crippled for life trying to stop it and the writers made *him* apologize for it!
It's amazing how you can ruin a character that *started* as an unwanted Wesley, but Marvel managed to do it with Kamala. Even the "cancel as publicity stunt and make a new issue number one" shenanigans couldn't produce sales for the character after that because they made her so *thoroughly* loathed.
No. The game is a guilty pleasure for me (I just recently deleted it after playing constantly since it's release). However, it had over 2,000 bugs and new ones were STILL popping up last week when I deleted it. You can't be a hit with that level of problems.
By calling marvel rivals a overwatch copy is hilarious because by that standard overwatch is Team Fortress 2 copy.
it is
The artwork isn’t the problem. The problem is the writing. The artists (most of them) are capable of drawing the Avengers doing exciting, action packed stuff. It’s the writers who have them sitting in a trendy diner eating yummy pie. And talking about pie. And planning their next snack in advance.
And if you told good, action based stories, readers would come back and you’d be able to afford to pay artists. In turn, those artists wouldn’t have to have side jobs and could spend the extra time drawing big action splash pages. It all comes back to the terrible writing and lack of editorial direction. They’ve hired “diverse” (read: cheap) writers who look up characters on Wikipedia, if that. Wikipedia can give you a bit of the characters bio, but without reading the actual comics, they don’t have any sense of the character’s personalities. That’s why every character sounds the same, acts the same, and is oh so hungry.
Hungary for snacks!
I blame Chris Clairmont for starting the 'mutants in a diner' genre
@@Zan_Jayna Meh, that's a "stand alone complex" if anything. If current writers actually read Claremont maybe modern X-Men would suck less.
Anyone else notice this is the 1st major marvel property in a long while that doesn't currently have Carol Danvers/captain marvel, Kamala Khan/Me Marvel and or any of the Marvels in it. And while their quality varies it's like the developers are aware of how they don't sell. I know hardly anyone's talked about that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they actually put them in the game later.
Girl boss can wait later 😅
Ironic. After games like "Avengers" or "SS: Kill the JL" flopped miserably, "they" can't even use the excuse of saying like: "it's popular just because of Marvel/Comics/MCU".
Marvel Rivals director be like:
Dear former employers, How's your game? Cool story, anyway... I heard you got no munee, no game, and no beaches. Guess what I got?
Sincerely, 🖕🤑🖕
Pick the right ip
And Concord started trying to charge people, and... why would customers pay for that?
They made attractive characters. It’s really that simple.
8:00 I don't think western writers will not inject the message even If the artwork is made on the east, they also need good writers focusing on lore and story instead of activism.
The localisation scandal proves that.
Example "War of Rorihim." written by the West, and animated by the East. And it SHOWS.
The difference is simple, one game was made for "the modern audience" that doesn't exist and one was made for EVERYONE.
Who would've thought that giving people what they wanted would lead to success? DUUR!
Shame Concord didn't hire me for art director, I could have made 1000% better designs
JEFF!!!
I BLAME JEFF FOR MAKING ME PLAY THE GAME
He is cute with OP special, that destroyed my whole team when we were making a comeback in 1 match😢.
@@ratzelbarreto2070😂🐶🦈
The director of a good game ripping on a bad game. Now there's a switch.
I feel like my Game Idea of a Grumpy Stick Figure Guy and Magician Stick Figure Girl Fighting Giant monsters in a Mario/Mega Man-like game would do better than Concord.
Jiggle P6❤
I think a pooping simulator would do better then concord.
A game called “Sex with Hitler” did better than Concord.
Put jiggle physics on stick figure girl and make your game, I'm sure it would be cool.
Isn’t this just Dick Figures but Mega man?
You can't really predict what games will be a success but you can dang sure see when they are definitely gonna fail.
I saw a lot of people compared the Overwatch designs to Concord, OW may have it's problems but the character designs were loads better.
"THEY TOOK MY BUM" -Tracer
Concord also felt woefully small compared to a lot of hero shooters, as if they were holding themselves back for no reason. Yet for some reason we were expected to be blown away by it for what it 'represented' which was nothing other than the warning of letting faux activists run any sort of project where creativity and knowledgeable management are high priority.
Honestly who looked at the designs in concord and went "cool"
I kinda liked the robot
Concord couldn't get character designs 101 right. None were identifiable, as in you couldn't tell who was the medic from a glance. TF2 got it right by making even the silhouettes recognizeable from afar while keeping the color palettes simple. An acquaintance of mine who had played neither game immediately got who was who in TF2, but asked me how was he meant to know that the bloke in baggy clothing is meant to be a medic.
“Good character designs can be identified by the silhouette…”
Matt Groening
I mean, it's not just the fact that it was an Overwatch clone, I wanted a game like Overwatch after what Blizz did to OW2, it just has to be a good one. It's not just the character designs. The combat mechanics and movement kits with each character feel a lot better and smoother in Rivals. Spiderman, Iron man, Hawkeye, Punisher, etc feel good and fun to play and the different abilties and ults feel good to use. I noticed how Concord felt slow and clunky just as a game. You constantly felt like you were running through molasses. The shooting didn't feel good, each characters abilities felt poor to use, clunky hit detection, etc, it felt bad and awkward. If you want to make a game like Overwatch, you have to make it fun and fast paced and make sure the abilities for each character feel good to use. You need to make sure getting a kill and taking an objective for example feels satisfying for the player. Concord just did not feel good to play, it wasn't fun...it seemed like a programming/coder issue.
And another contributor to its success is that the team seems to have a love for the characters and Marvel as a whole. We have things like being able to do a Fast Ball Special and characters like Galacta showing up. While it might not happen, but I hope that this and the new Ultimate Universe is a wake up call for Disney to have people who love their IPs to work on them.
Good Work and Great effort on making this game btw it was a Chinese studio made this.
The Loki char is so cool! He can telaport, make clones of himself, AND THOSE CLONES FIGHT TOO! The also heal otyour team
name checks out
@@shocktnc to be fair, my account was made way before marvel/disney merge.. But yes, I do have a bit of a bias too.
Value can be negative, so in that sense it offered unrivaled value
Rivals has Jeff to throw me off the map while Concord doesn't... or should I say "didn't" kakakakaka
Also, I don't like the idea of outsourcing everything to JP or KR. It might cause a loss in art style
Until Western Studios can make attractive characters again, it is for the best for games to be outsourced to Japan and South Korea for character design.
@ they just refuse to make attractive women for some reason. Hell, at this point, just make them not look insultingly ugly and I would be fine. They don’t even have to look super hot
When your game is better than the one it’s “copying” ….i no longer can hate on it. It’s superior by art and design. It’s not DEI’d to hell and back!
Rivals is not just a copy of overwatch, here you have not that many running around with guns, you have heroes that has to go into melee range to attack. The game need more games mode because the stay in the square mode is too complicated for people.
I downloaded Marvel Rivals because it was free to play, but also noticed a bunch Tiktokers and Vtubers are also playing. They probably had sponsorships to shill for the game before it came out, but I think that kind of campaign is definitely aimed at kids. So the kids are excited to play it.
I have no idea what I'm doing and my computer can barely handle it, but it's been fun playing it with my buds.
What's funny is I don't even focus on how attractive the female characters are (aside from Squirrel Girl ayo). It simply has a unique aesthetic where if i saw one of the characters, I could immediately identify they are specifically from the game. Not only that, but the game is so much fun to play
Part of it is there is some fans of Overwatch that got burned to often by Blizzard.
They are looking for something similar that doesn't have as much baggage.
so you can still success in oversaturated market if your product is, well simply better.
Tbh if they just had Japan, Korea, etc make the comics for Marvel and DC they’d be selling better manga has been beating comics so may as well
"China's gaming success shows Disney the value of relatable characters, suggesting Marvel might benefit from outsourcing comics to Japan or Korea for better portrayal."
Or better yet, hire domestic writers who know the characters, know the material, appreciate the material, and know how to f*cking write!
I'm honestly shocked the game actually succeeded....truly shocked and very happy to see a good marvel game
Concord had nothing, while Rivals has so many different things pulling me in. Even if not looking at characters that actually get to look attractive, look at their ability designs! Look at what silly bs you can do! Doctor strange sending a soon-to-explode scarlet witch through a portal right into the backline, Jeff eating an entire team to jump off the ledge, Star Lord getting his real hero moment of annihilating the backline with his pistols, swinging with spider man and so on... You get to actually have fun, its not just a generic shooter again!
I mean, everybody's floored by the designs right? You want goblin girl in a t-shirt? Hideous black with shoulder pads? Fat black with more padding?
It's not about Unique Value. A game can be 100% unique and if you don't want to play as the character within the game that uniqueness won't change anything. Marvel Rivals isn't unque but it started with at least characters people wanted to try out and play. It being somewhat soild helped it stay around. It's not perfect by any means. If your going to make a hero shooter the frist thing you need is the characters and that what marvel has with it's IP. Yes, they could still have screwed up by having bad design for them but for the most part they are good.
When I look at something like concord I didn't even see a single character I wanted to play compared to like first season overwatch. Which I wanted to try to like many but found which ones I really liked and which ones I didn't over time.
If you’re named Thaddeus with “a big Thad”, then you will go far
Rivals also plays in 3rd person which is far better than then OW's 1st person. Also easier to justify buying a skin as you can actually see your character using it outside of just emoting and intros/outros as is the case in Overwatch.
What a shame
It's almost like people want characters with cool and dynamic designs. I have no complaints about any of the characters in Rivals, even Wolverine kinda grew on me with his weirdly stocky design. Hell, Marvel Rivals even took Squirrel Girl, the joke character who morphed into the icon of comic book Tumblrization, and made her appealing.
Marvel Rivals is very good that I consider Overwatch as more a clone to marvels.
I didn’t even know about Marvel Rivals but I’m glad it’s doing well.
Oh one more thing. No flat chest at storm. I had a huge crush on her forever when they did that it made me want to fucking cry. Can't believe they did that beautiful woman.
Dude beer gut store was cool especially when he was bearded after all it's closer to the actual character than marvels I would love to have that as a skin.
I just hope that the people in charge of making these games don't think that it's only successful because it used a pre-established franchise
Not sure it's good idea to keep roasting Sony when Marvel Rivals is also on PlayStation platform as well...
Remember Helldivers 2 fiasco with PC players? 🤔
And no one was surprised.
There's no way they could get away with making Storm look like a Cincord tier troll. Her fanbase treats her like a queen and they'd have lost their damn mind.
To remake a quote from a bad tv show: Do better Gaming Industry!
Marvel rivals success is going to destroy not only woke games but woke entertainment as a whole. You love to see it
He ain’t wrong
Fun fact, China has it's own mythical and legendary heroes who are usually portrayed as extremely masculine (for men) and angelically beautiful (for women) and today that beauty standard largely holds up today although pretty boys are also a thing now in China. It does not surprise me that when making Marvel Rivals they applied that mindset to the characters and largely avoided the woke DEI incarnations that Western devs have churned out.
I'm just saying, I would bet there would be a few people, myself included, that would get a kick out it if they added The Dude Thor, rather than Beer Gut Thor
The director said git gud.
Gezz, overkill much? The game is already dead and the studio that made it is gone as well. This feels like rubbing salt into the wound for Sony.
Let the salt flow.😎
Fairgame$ and Naughty Dog's newest thing are still in development, so they haven't learned their lesson and *do* need further salting.
Dragon Age Veilguard proves they haven't gotten the memo.. so as the above commenters put it.. Let the Salt flow 🤣😂
As everyone should, you know they'd do the same if the game succeeded.
Man... I remember seeing that "Avengers: H day" or whatever that story was called about avengers living in opressive world... Story was slop, characters looked like something out of LSD driven schizophrenia episode and backgrounds were drawn on the level of "worst kid in art class" in 5th grade. Maybe we just need english translators so they can translate stories... But than again, we could have another "funimation" situation
Palworld replacing the sex option with a "body type" option as a joke is already bad publicity since it does not seem like a joke since there is no punchline. The recent Dragon Quest III port even confuses video game players since "Appearance A" and "Appearance B" are the only characters to pick, but the dresses can only be equipped on women, meaning that "man" and "woman" should be used on the characters instead.
Square Enix is remaking DQ 1 and 2 as well. You can bet they won't make the same mistake again.
The creator of DQ said in a recent interview that publishers force the changes in order for games to be released these days.
@@Boss_Tiggerinsane how they look at the west and see the fanatic left instead of the majority normal gamers that are causing these studios to go bankrupt.
I honestly think Palworld deserved the lawsuit. I don’t care if it wasn’t for the designs, I just hate how smug they are.
And you cannot convince me those pals weren’t made with AI
@@Boss_Tigger I saw that one. Yuji Horii is right that it is ridiculous to get triggered by the male or female option.
Kneon, if they outsourced the art to Japan but had western writers, we'd just have that War of the Rohirrim thing, just with comics instead of animation.
And yes, China is a problem.. I admit the devs have their priorities straight, but ceding yet another industry to them isn't the way to go either. I gave up on playing Love Nikki a few years ago because I recognized where the winds were blowing, despite having a hefty collection in that game. We are being rope-a-doped.
I think what needs to happen is we all need to stick to indie stuff for the next few years until these companies fire the activists and fanfic writers and get some good projects running again. Because no matter how good the game is, these companies will learn the absolute worst wrong lesson from this.
A free game that is embarrassing the crap out of you. Now that is pure comedy.😂😂😂😂😂
For that last comment you should be hired as head of Marvel Comics
Comic book accurate!? Must be absolute trashfire, alt something, and fanservice gamergate 😋😂 blah blah blah
Oh the irony
It is amazing seeing how you give players characters they love and they look, feel and play as they should be depicted in a video game people would flock and support the game. Cough, cough... Looking at you Suicide Squad. No one wanted DC characters version of a shit version of Border Lands, where everyone feels the same and are so far from their comic personas.
Waiting for Marvel Rivals to add, *_"IT'S MORBIN' TIME!!!"_*
People do switch. Played Siege for more than 5 years. Tons of skins. Tons of season passes and even some battle passes. The straw that broke the camel's back was when it went woke.
If any one is gonna make a game remember concord lost hundreds of millions while Genshin is making billions each year.
ok, this is well deserved
It's not my type of game, but I'm glad it's doing well.
SMITE cashed in on the ancient myths. Marvel rivals is cashing in on the modern mythology
It is an overwatch clone. However, it does have some different features that do make it better. Also, hardly any woke bullcrap. It does have hefty prices for skins.
That dude had epic parents
Giving people The character version of Marvel Heroes you love and not the woke joke version.
8:00 I don't think this era's US writers are good. Have JP writers and artists since they can emulate US-styled illustrations better (see One Punch Man 's artist Yusuke Murata)
I’m enjoying rivals it’s legitimately more fun than current overwatch sans classics 6v6
Good job Disney!
Still wish they would fix Storm's hairstyle. This Fauxhawk is iconic of woke design still.
And before anyone jumps on me for not being a "real fan" I was more a fan of Wolverine, cyclops, Gambit, and Jubilee than Storm.
There is nothing woke about Mohawk rock. Its called Punk.
@@EagleOneHarrier The actual punk cut doesn't stop half way. Real mohawks shave off the left and right leaving a line down the center of the head left for styling. Anything less is a poser cut.
Give people classic characters.
I'm not going to lie. I think it'd be kind of fun to play a fat fat Thor for fun, but that's just me cuz again, Thor is a badass. He's a freaking God for Christ's sakes but play it is fat Thor. I'm sorry I'd be kind of fun.
Its unfair cos marvel rivals has well marvel popularity
Storm hands down is the most beautiful and has the best female character designs.
I prefer Psylocke (Betsy Braddock) more.
@@artfire28
Betsy is not in the game.
That's why I play tobal no.1 and 2 videos another classic fighter video game lot better than concord. Say whatever people they want about another classic fighter video game. They bring design unique to different concepts as hidden gems.
beer belly thor would be funny thou.
Great game with beautiful characters.
So you're telling me not trying to brainwash your players is a good strategy?
But, did it bring any unique value?
Concord is the video game equivalent of Jesus, it died for all our sins in the gaming industry.
Just without any miracles to their credit... just cringe... so... much... cringe...