There are some wonderful recordings made many, many decades ago using single or two microphone set ups. Orchestras, Jazz ensembles, Choirs etc. There is a combination of art, science and experience put into how these microphones are set up. Good to see that there are people in the audio industry still practicing these skills and techniques.
Indeed! The Mercury recordings, in the late 50s, of the Detroit Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Paul Paray at Symphony Hall were all single mic'd. They still stand the test of time. (I used them when shopping for my first component level system in the 70s.)
@@chong2389 Good idea. Spacious natural recordings are always a great way of testing some important aspects of a sound system. I also use purely electronic music to test the dynamics and range of a sound system. Techno-Dance music works very well for this, even though I dont listen to too much Techno-dance music at home. I have vinyl pressings and CD recordings of "Satchmo Plays King Oliver" (Louie Armstrong) from around 1960 and "Jazz at the Pawnshop" and they are wonderful recordings because of the recording techniques used. Sound-stage with depth and width. Amazing.
I have been using the AEA R88 stereo ribbon mic and doing just that, and capturing IR's out in the wild. I has turned onto it by the OneMic Series, RUclips channel. Brilliant examples of how one mic can capture the whole band[s].
John Cuniberti did an amazing job on the one mic series. I couldn’t believe the sound being captured by one microphone “coming through RUclips audio”. Speaking of…do you know if the series can be found in a higher quality than RUclips format ?
A band called Cowboy Junkies did a record with a single microphone called "The Trinity Session", though I would say the story about how the fooled a church into recording there was even more entertaining than the record itself. 😄 Another great one microphone recording is the demo recording of "Four Walls of Raiford" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, 3 chairs and the microphone between them, first take and the lyrics was apparently not even written down on a piece of paper.
We miss Otis up in BV! You can tell him JJ says so! We are all fortunate that legend is here in Colorado... Speaking of Otis, Paul have you chatted with Anne Harris? She is a stunning talent that worked with Otis for quite awhile - always lights up a room with her presence and talent. She would be and incredible energy to record as well.
Most of Chesky Records' early recordings were made with the musicians seated in a circle around a C24. You have to be careful as the musicians on one side with be in the opposite polarity of those on the other side, and instruments off to either side can become diffuse and phasey. My problem with coincident pair recordings is that stereo image is generated entirely by amplitude variations, with no directional phase information. A pattern like ORTF gives you some of both.
Less is more simple mic set ups done with care do sound fantastic the tendency is to mic everything up multitrack and then try and get it to sound right mixing later
I love single microphones most of the stuff I collect back in the day was single or sometimes two microphones Takes a lot of work at the studio to get them right I’m impressed with PS audio that they’ve experimenting with this
if you use the C24 stereo mic and a closer spot mic, are you accounting for the different arrival times? That is, delaying the closer spot mic by a few milliseconds to match the C24 crossed fig 8's? This can affect/improve clarity....
Been thinking about spatial cues in recordings for some time now. As a geospatial analyst, also an audiophile, I think there is a way audio engineers can incorporate these cues in their recordings. There are tools in spatial software that may help with this and I will be happy to discuss it with any recording studios that would listen.
There is already a large variety of spatial software available to recording studios and are at a point where already famous rooms, concert halls, and even other recording studios are available. Additionally, with the rise of Atmos, there are a variety of processors and software that make spatial placement pretty easy.
Paul what you are describing IS NOT a single microphone set up for recording like Bob from Arcadia asked about, because the AKG (not Telefunken) C 24 microphone is two separate microphones in one housing, and when you add in the Bock microphone and you record these all to three tracks that is a three microphone set up that you are using "to create an illusion of reality." I believe Bob from Arcadia wanted to know if Octave Records and DSD studios were going to do any single microphone recordings? This is beginning to sound like listening to Donald Trump.
It looks like Bob is referring to a: Unidirectional mic. It looks like Paul is using, quality, `Semi - Uni Directional, figure 8 mics.' Of course, an Omni Mic picks up sound from all directions. This may also be effective in picking up the, `ambient sound,' in the recording studio ~ When using multiple mics, why not place their signals directly into a quality mic mixer, then into the DSD recorder, for mixing into only one channel?
@@richardsoffice9176 The AKG C 24 is definitely not "semi-unidirectional" but is in fact quad directional in that it is capable of dual figure 8 (front and back side x 2 microphones). The preamps on the Pyramix system that is being used at Octave Records\DSD Studios are extremely clean and accurate and there really is no need to put an additional "mic mixer into the recording chain unless a particular coloration is being sought. Mixing down to one channel doesn't make sense with the target being two-channel stereo. While a mono mix can work on the two-channel stereo system, in mono the wideness of even a single source is lost.
With mic’s, like loudspeakers, placement is everything
There are some wonderful recordings made many, many decades ago using single or two microphone set ups.
Orchestras, Jazz ensembles, Choirs etc.
There is a combination of art, science and experience put into how these microphones are set up.
Good to see that there are people in the audio industry still practicing these skills and techniques.
Indeed! The Mercury recordings, in the late 50s, of the Detroit Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Paul Paray at Symphony Hall were all single mic'd. They still stand the test of time. (I used them when shopping for my first component level system in the 70s.)
@@chong2389 Good idea. Spacious natural recordings are always a great way of testing some important aspects of a sound system.
I also use purely electronic music to test the dynamics and range of a sound system. Techno-Dance music works very well for this, even though I dont listen to too much Techno-dance music at home.
I have vinyl pressings and CD recordings of "Satchmo Plays King Oliver" (Louie Armstrong) from around 1960 and "Jazz at the Pawnshop" and they are wonderful recordings because of the recording techniques used.
Sound-stage with depth and width. Amazing.
This was very inspiring to learn as a boy, when all I had was a single microphone. Had to learn to make it work.
So much fun watching your great videos and teaching this audiophile more about recordings and sound. Thanks Paul!
Thanks Paul for doing all these video's.
I have been using the AEA R88 stereo ribbon mic and doing just that, and capturing IR's out in the wild. I has turned onto it by the OneMic Series, RUclips channel. Brilliant examples of how one mic can capture the whole band[s].
John Cuniberti did an amazing job on the one mic series. I couldn’t believe the sound being captured by one microphone “coming through RUclips audio”.
Speaking of…do you know if the series can be found in a higher quality than RUclips format ?
Love these videos on the magic of capturing Live music performance
A band called Cowboy Junkies did a record with a single microphone called "The Trinity Session", though I would say the story about how the fooled a church into recording there was even more entertaining than the record itself. 😄
Another great one microphone recording is the demo recording of "Four Walls of Raiford" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, 3 chairs and the microphone between them, first take and the lyrics was apparently not even written down on a piece of paper.
the Calrec Soundfield...
The Calrec Soundfield microphone has four capsules arranged like a pyramid, so it also collects height information.
I'm flattered to be one of the first to hear this info first hour
We miss Otis up in BV! You can tell him JJ says so! We are all fortunate that legend is here in Colorado... Speaking of Otis, Paul have you chatted with Anne Harris? She is a stunning talent that worked with Otis for quite awhile - always lights up a room with her presence and talent. She would be and incredible energy to record as well.
I love your passion! nothing more to say..
Most of Chesky Records' early recordings were made with the musicians seated in a circle around a C24. You have to be careful as the musicians on one side with be in the opposite polarity of those on the other side, and instruments off to either side can become diffuse and phasey.
My problem with coincident pair recordings is that stereo image is generated entirely by amplitude variations, with no directional phase information. A pattern like ORTF gives you some of both.
Thanks Paul
Less is more simple mic set ups done with care do sound fantastic the tendency is to mic everything up multitrack and then try and get it to sound right mixing later
I love single microphones most of the stuff I collect back in the day was single or sometimes two microphones
Takes a lot of work at the studio to get them right
I’m impressed with PS audio that they’ve experimenting with this
“Otis! My man!” 🤣
if you use the C24 stereo mic and a closer spot mic, are you accounting for the different arrival times? That is, delaying the closer spot mic by a few milliseconds to match the C24 crossed fig 8's?
This can affect/improve clarity....
That’s where DSD makes the most sense as end-to-end format.
I'm sure some of the oldest Elvis appearances solo live on stage might have been single miked, certainly sounded like it!
One microphone recordings
Used to record that way .. Called it a "One Mic Stand" 😆😆😆
Ba dumm tsssss.. 🥁
...encore!
Been thinking about spatial cues in recordings for some time now. As a geospatial analyst, also an audiophile, I think there is a way audio engineers can incorporate these cues in their recordings. There are tools in spatial software that may help with this and I will be happy to discuss it with any recording studios that would listen.
There is already a large variety of spatial software available to recording studios and are at a point where already famous rooms, concert halls, and even other recording studios are available.
Additionally, with the rise of Atmos, there are a variety of processors and software that make spatial placement pretty easy.
When you say 'One microphone recoding', my first thought was Octave is going mono.
Paul what you are describing IS NOT a single microphone set up for recording like Bob from Arcadia asked about, because the AKG (not Telefunken) C 24 microphone is two separate microphones in one housing, and when you add in the Bock microphone and you record these all to three tracks that is a three microphone set up that you are using "to create an illusion of reality."
I believe Bob from Arcadia wanted to know if Octave Records and DSD studios were going to do any single microphone recordings?
This is beginning to sound like listening to Donald Trump.
A single mic is just that. But I am skeptical about the production of a 3D environment that Bob is referring to.
It looks like Bob is referring to a: Unidirectional mic. It looks like Paul is using, quality, `Semi - Uni Directional, figure 8 mics.' Of course, an Omni Mic picks up sound from all directions. This may also be effective in picking up the, `ambient sound,' in the recording studio ~ When using multiple mics, why not place their signals directly into a quality mic mixer, then into the DSD recorder, for mixing into only one channel?
@@richardsoffice9176 The AKG C 24 is definitely not "semi-unidirectional" but is in fact quad directional in that it is capable of dual figure 8 (front and back side x 2 microphones).
The preamps on the Pyramix system that is being used at Octave Records\DSD Studios are extremely clean and accurate and there really is no need to put an additional "mic mixer into the recording chain unless a particular coloration is being sought.
Mixing down to one channel doesn't make sense with the target being two-channel stereo.
While a mono mix can work on the two-channel stereo system, in mono the wideness of even a single source is lost.
Otis Taylor….. Now you’re talking.
👍Wow, I wish I had neighbors like that!🥳
🎸🎷👨🏻
🙋♂️ Can I make a request for binaural microphones someday 🤷♂️😁💚💚💚
the best microphone is the c12 especially for coustic guitars vocals piano don't need another mic.
sound always goes up you know that don't you?
AEA r88
Imo the Sound Liaison One Mic are the best available; ruclips.net/video/Wv5x6KxQ1Lg/видео.html&ab_channel=Release-Topic&loop=0
With multiple microphones placed at each instrument there is no soundstage. Everything is on your face
CLUELESS
Insightful contribution
FIRST
Wondered if we were still doing that. 😂
These are imo the best one mic recordings available: www.soundliaison.com
The best out there, superb sound and the music is fantastic.
ruclips.net/video/lQtwN4zO8is/видео.html&ab_channel=SoundLiaison&loop=0