Hey, just as a reminder to those who might not have seen it, Gearbox just put up a poll in the Official Risk of Rain discord asking essentially if people think the new items are op. Not to ya know, persuade you, but you should go cast your votes!
oh god the fucking glass meta is back. i love shaped glass and it making you an actual glass cannon. naturally, i do not like when that is perverted into invincibility and infinite damage.
Given that the team just sent out a survey asking about the DLC and the item balance specifically, they're definitely still looking to further refine the items which is great. Along with fixing the quirks you mentioned among other things with the new items (why does War Bonds have a 1.0 proc coefficient on Max HP damage good god), I hope they also take a look at stuff from pre-DLC2 to touch up like Hunter's Harpoon, Happiest Mask, Lepton Daisy, and the like.
honestly I'll be real, I doubt they're gonna touch anything that isn't DLC 2 lol. I think they're going into it with a 'if it ain't broke' mentality as far as everything else with the game
Let's not hate on GB. They released a trash item pool that made the game actively more annoying to play, listened to the community, and in no time they reworked them all into powerful and super-fun additions. (Daily reminder that SotV items are mostly broken as fuck too) Sure, these two were waaaaaaay too overtuned. Transmitter in particular, given that echoes is actually bugged. Let's give GB time.
@@CiuccioeCorrazyeah. And keep in mind Hopoo had several years of balancing expertise, and still made stuff like polylute and railgunner. And yeah pre-1.0 was rough. Old Frelic, goat hoof being better than energy drink even while sprinting, stickybombs, glass before the rework to OSP, stealthkit being a random proc.
Out of everything that has been buffed, i hope they leave noxious thorn alone. It is legitimately my favorite item to get now. I learned the other day that thorn can transfer the debuf from ruinous effigy. I just love the way it interacts with all the debuffs.
Ive been working on my eclipse climb on and off since late 2023, and im planning to finish it up before i even consider grabbing sots. (4 characters left) Void items are already very powerul, but seekers items seem like they make the game too easy for my liking. Regardless of how i feel about the items atm, im hoping Gearbox can iron them out eventually, and succeed with the planned updates aswell. Thanks for using your voice to speak for the community, and not giving up on this amazing game!
Would be nice to show at some point what the item descriptions actually say they do for people who aren't already familiar with the items just off of memory
just found something really funny with 1 max hp and 37 warped echoes, there's a negative cooldown time which means permanent osp. since you have 1 hp and permanent osp, you're invincible
so does wecho like use the one shot protection threshold of your health without curse? otherwise it wouldve still gone low enough to activate low health items right?
If you’re at full hp, even with glass and curse, you will live and keep watches. It will ONLY EVER give you 42% damage at most, even with 99% blood shrines
Anyone know if gearbox was ever asked/has stated they would be interested in tweaking vanilla and SotV items? I know it would be unhealthy for the game if EVERY item was good, but idk, I would like to see some bad items actually have uses. And maybe even some good items toned down a bit.
2:18 "I can also use blast shower to reset safer spaces and transmitter and transmitter" I'm assuming you meant to say wecho instead of one of them lol
I'm just sitting here confused because from what I can tell... warped echo actually kills you trying to Diablo skip on e8. No I'm not ever doing pillars on Captain...
I haven't tuned into any of your streams, but how is this currently affecting your runs? Are you running these items or are they on an artificial ban list like Bloom?
Hey, just as a reminder to those who might not have seen it, Gearbox just put up a poll in the Official Risk of Rain discord asking essentially if people think the new items are op. Not to ya know, persuade you, but you should go cast your votes!
Thanks, would not have seen otherwise
Overall I think a lot of the items are in a really good spot functionality wise, they just need their stats tuned down just a tad
Quick PSA: The survey is in the announcements channel
Kinda weird they didn't release it as a steam post so more people would see it, I hope it gets traffic regardless
i feel like literally every single run is op, not only that i feel like I get better items than usual
oh god the fucking glass meta is back. i love shaped glass and it making you an actual glass cannon. naturally, i do not like when that is perverted into invincibility and infinite damage.
Given that the team just sent out a survey asking about the DLC and the item balance specifically, they're definitely still looking to further refine the items which is great. Along with fixing the quirks you mentioned among other things with the new items (why does War Bonds have a 1.0 proc coefficient on Max HP damage good god), I hope they also take a look at stuff from pre-DLC2 to touch up like Hunter's Harpoon, Happiest Mask, Lepton Daisy, and the like.
honestly I'll be real, I doubt they're gonna touch anything that isn't DLC 2 lol. I think they're going into it with a 'if it ain't broke' mentality as far as everything else with the game
Transmitter has saved me from dying from the fuel cell
just as expected. went from dog ass items to OP because a middle ground does not exist
I've sent in a lot of lists and text walls about how to tune things down, hopefully they listen!
If you think warped echo wasn’t in the middle ground before you’re the reason we have this problem
@@thiccum2668 you're right, i forgot i own and run gearbox and am on the dev team
Let's not hate on GB. They released a trash item pool that made the game actively more annoying to play, listened to the community, and in no time they reworked them all into powerful and super-fun additions. (Daily reminder that SotV items are mostly broken as fuck too)
Sure, these two were waaaaaaay too overtuned. Transmitter in particular, given that echoes is actually bugged. Let's give GB time.
@@CiuccioeCorrazyeah. And keep in mind Hopoo had several years of balancing expertise, and still made stuff like polylute and railgunner.
And yeah pre-1.0 was rough. Old Frelic, goat hoof being better than energy drink even while sprinting, stickybombs, glass before the rework to OSP, stealthkit being a random proc.
Out of everything that has been buffed, i hope they leave noxious thorn alone. It is legitimately my favorite item to get now. I learned the other day that thorn can transfer the debuf from ruinous effigy. I just love the way it interacts with all the debuffs.
Ive been working on my eclipse climb on and off since late 2023, and im planning to finish it up before i even consider grabbing sots. (4 characters left) Void items are already very powerul, but seekers items seem like they make the game too easy for my liking. Regardless of how i feel about the items atm, im hoping Gearbox can iron them out eventually, and succeed with the planned updates aswell. Thanks for using your voice to speak for the community, and not giving up on this amazing game!
Would be nice to show at some point what the item descriptions actually say they do for people who aren't already familiar with the items just off of memory
Yeah sorry, all too comfortable these days I often forget, it’s a good idea
just found something really funny
with 1 max hp and 37 warped echoes, there's a negative cooldown time which means permanent osp. since you have 1 hp and permanent osp, you're invincible
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the era of bubbles.
Playing the game now feels like cheating. That’s certainly one way to make the items better.
hey, dont forget... seed of life can also be used by bottled chaos (multiplayer is the only time thats truly relevant, but still)
so does wecho like use the one shot protection threshold of your health without curse? otherwise it wouldve still gone low enough to activate low health items right?
If you’re at full hp, even with glass and curse, you will live and keep watches. It will ONLY EVER give you 42% damage at most, even with 99% blood shrines
didn't see the video length and thought race was actually going to stack glass in a run to show it off lmao
transmitter feels like an automatic win
I can use shaped glass? This means I can finally win when I have transmitter and wecho!
Anyone know if gearbox was ever asked/has stated they would be interested in tweaking vanilla and SotV items?
I know it would be unhealthy for the game if EVERY item was good, but idk, I would like to see some bad items actually have uses. And maybe even some good items toned down a bit.
2:18 "I can also use blast shower to reset safer spaces and transmitter and transmitter" I'm assuming you meant to say wecho instead of one of them lol
blower doesnt reset wecho so i think he was just emphasizing how op it is
This item combo is too op
You got damn narc (jk)
I'm just sitting here confused because from what I can tell... warped echo actually kills you trying to Diablo skip on e8. No I'm not ever doing pillars on Captain...
I haven't tuned into any of your streams, but how is this currently affecting your runs? Are you running these items or are they on an artificial ban list like Bloom?
honestly they're looking like its going on the ban list soon
@RacesVideos very fair, it's hard to be invested when there's no stakes lmao