Five Ancient "Innovations" that Set Humanity Back

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  • @getnohappy
    @getnohappy Год назад +566

    Surprised mercury wasn't on the list. Love how so many cultures went "this is a bit weird, I think we should eat it / smear it on ourselves"

    • @speed65752
      @speed65752 Год назад

      In some cases, there were right. It has many properties that could help cure many diseases.
      Ironically, it's all temporary since it will also poison you horribly.

    • @itswilbur3747
      @itswilbur3747 Год назад +48

      Considering the lead poisoning, mercury poisoning and everything else, it's no surprise everyone was a blade wielding lunatic...
      "We're not conquering you! It's a mercy killing! The past IS the worst!"😂

    • @mitchsmith7472
      @mitchsmith7472 Год назад +12

      It's still used as a gold extraction method in 3rd world countries

    • @micahgelfand8282
      @micahgelfand8282 Год назад +7

      Apparently heavily used by the Mayans

    • @mitchsmith7472
      @mitchsmith7472 Год назад +10

      @@micahgelfand8282 any gold empire used mercury as their main extraction method after getting the gold out of the rock

  • @velvetine74
    @velvetine74 Год назад +125

    The bit about the fresh flowers is fantastic! I love how even in ancient times people were looking for a way to tell the tax man to go do one!

    • @masoquistaeo
      @masoquistaeo Год назад +9

      Not the hero that they deserved, but the hero that they needed 😂😂😂

  • @itspitched
    @itspitched Год назад +1465

    Agriculture, metal work, and agriculture.

    • @AcornElectron
      @AcornElectron Год назад +62

      That’s 3 ….. well, 2.

    • @Phatxual
      @Phatxual Год назад +3

      Glad to know I wasn't the only one hearing things😂 Even turned cc's on quick just to make sure

    • @Lngbrdninjamasta
      @Lngbrdninjamasta Год назад +32

      Beat me to it lol

    • @slayingroosters4355
      @slayingroosters4355 Год назад +105

      I'm so glad the editor just completely ignored him 😂😂

    • @SegwayBossk
      @SegwayBossk Год назад +69

      I had to rewind to see if I had heard it correctly

  • @anthonyfamularo8875
    @anthonyfamularo8875 Год назад +888

    One correction: As far as swords, knives, etc. are concerned, modern steels are FAR superior to Damascus steel. The particular process might be lost, but the end product, although pretty, would be demolished by a modern reproduction. And anyone can buy a reproduction sword online today from numerous makers, including some superb ones for under US$1,000, that are more durable and effective than any sword owned by any medieval king.

    • @huwday1131
      @huwday1131 Год назад +245

      Similar correction: Roman concrete isn't superior to modern recipes. A lot of modern concrete contains rebar (steel bars or grids) that help give it tensile strength. Roman concrete did not have this, and as such wasn't that great under tension. The upside is that Roman concrete lasts longer. The steel in reinforced concrete expands and contracts thermally, causing gradual cracking and weakening of the concrete around it. Over decades, it will break down. Because Roman concrete doesn't have rebar, it will last a lot longer. But so will a lot of non-reinforced modern concrete.

    • @Arbiter099
      @Arbiter099 Год назад +104

      @@huwday1131 Hated seeing his script get those wrong within 20 seconds. Simon's channels are pretty worthless for factual information.

    • @astrid703
      @astrid703 Год назад +35

      Similar correction: ancient kohl wasn't toxic to the wearers--the preparations used protected against endemic eye diseases and were thus medicinal as well as cosmetic.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 Год назад +22

      at least they didnt make it out of carbon fiber and epoxy

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime Год назад +93

      @@huwday1131 An addition to your correction: Using modern material spectrograph we actually know exactly what was in Roman Concrete. turns out the "secret ingredient" was just plain old seawater and Quicklime instead of slaked lime.

  • @MTTT1234
    @MTTT1234 Год назад +143

    The thing with Roman lead poisoning: They not only used lead pipes and lead containers for their wine, but even used some lead compounds to sweeten their wine, because certain lead alloys tasted sweet, so that added even more lead to their system.

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 Год назад +13

      lead containers were thought of as elite products compared to the commoners' clay vessels haha!

    • @100percentSNAFU
      @100percentSNAFU Год назад

      ​@jasongermany5786You don't typically die from lead poisoning, it effects your brain function, and especially so in children who still have developing brains.

    • @_gsp12
      @_gsp12 Год назад +13

      ​@jasongermany5786the life expectancy during the roman empire was 25 years

    • @austin8775
      @austin8775 Год назад +12

      @@_gsp12now take out the % that didn’t make it past infancy….

    • @_gsp12
      @_gsp12 Год назад +9

      @@austin8775 35-40 years

  • @4ryan42
    @4ryan42 Год назад +1407

    "Innovations that set humanity back"
    I am certain that someday in the future, we will look back and put social media in that category.

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Год назад +1

      Nah, media controlled by 1% in general. Social media are just quickest and easiest to manipulate, but fox lies and co are just as toxic and even more dangerous...

    • @RadenWA
      @RadenWA Год назад +85

      Public forums has existed throughout the history along with its toxic societal impacts, if you have problem with it now then your problem is with the Internet, which allows it on a unprecedented global scale without the need of identity, credibility and accountability.

    • @Doddseyy
      @Doddseyy Год назад +33

      Both a great boon and a great curse

    • @Tyrkia123
      @Tyrkia123 Год назад +1

      @@RadenWA Public forums used to be physical spaces where your nonsense could have real life consequences and where idiots were laughed off the stage. Here you can parrot your bullshit to anyone willing to listen with 0 consequences. The village idiots used to be isolated in their own stupidity, now they can connect with any village idiot around the world

    • @scottdoesntmatter4409
      @scottdoesntmatter4409 Год назад +17

      @@RadenWA You and I both know that the internet is an incredibly deceptive place to the point that scams abound.

  • @evilsharkey8954
    @evilsharkey8954 Год назад +539

    The thing you didn’t mention about torture is how bad it is for getting reliable information. If you torture someone, they’ll most likely tell you what they think you want to hear to make the torture stop, regardless of whether it’s true. A person who doesn’t know an answer will make one up.
    The best interrogators form a rapport with their target and have conversations where they’re able to pick out valuable information that’s let out, sometimes unwittingly.

    • @OnionChoppingNinja
      @OnionChoppingNinja Год назад +54

      that's the problem you see; That is hard and the interrogator and his boss don't care if you are innocent or not. They only care about conviction rates. In their minds accusation = guilty. It was true back in medieval times, it is more true then ever today.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 Год назад +53

      @@OnionChoppingNinja I’m referring to torture for the purpose of gaining intel, like torturing POWs, not torturing people into making confessions, false or genuine.

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 Год назад

      @@evilsharkey8954 Same effect can be seen there - the whole Iraq War was based on confessions under torture that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Clearly Bush and whoever else wanted to attack Iraq, and wanted that confession whether or not it was true.

    • @bmyers7078
      @bmyers7078 Год назад +19

      “Never start with the head [hit]. It makes the suspect all…woozy”.
      -The Joker (The Dark Knight 2008)

    • @macdjord
      @macdjord Год назад +13

      That depends on what information you're after. Yes, the victim will tell you whatever they think will make the pain stop - but that includes the truth, so the issue is whether you can identify the truth when you hear it. Torture is utterly useless for questions like 'Did you do it?' or 'Who were your co-conspirators?', but questions like 'Where is the bomb?' can - not _should,_ just can - be effectively answered by torture.

  • @jadekaiser7840
    @jadekaiser7840 Год назад +123

    As a note, Damascus steel was not "superior to modern attempts." It was a lot better compared to most other contemporary steel alloys, but many modern ones are still better. Modern metallurgy is damn impressive, and Damascus has even been recreated artificially at this point, where the original could be considered partially down to the luck of happening to mine in the right spot. At least where the iconic look was concerned.
    Also your shot was a pattern-welded blade, not true Damascus, but that's another matter.

    • @charlesian2000
      @charlesian2000 Год назад +3

      I should have read a little further… your comment is accurate. I got all touchy when I saw the pattern welded blade in the intro too.

    • @veridico84
      @veridico84 Год назад +1

      Agreed, my magnacut steel blade is orders of magnitude better than the best of the best older steels.

    • @The_Malcontented
      @The_Malcontented Год назад +2

      Was JUST about to nerd-out and comment something similar!

    • @frostreaper1607
      @frostreaper1607 6 месяцев назад

      The video editor probably just has a sub to Storyblocks or something like that, its just a limitation of the job unfortunately.

    • @mrosskne
      @mrosskne 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@frostreaper1607 what does this have to do with anything?

  • @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
    @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Год назад +70

    To further expand on "slash and burn farming," you also need "crop rotation." Today, farmers do field burns, but the thing to pay attention to is how they nearly always plant something different on that field next season, and so on. Planting the same thing on that field only depletes the nutrients in the soil, making it as useful as concrete. Every second or third year, you need to plant something which ADDS nutrients to the soil.
    On a smaller scale, you can see the same phenomenon in your home garden. Every year, you need to rotate the garden. Every second or third plot needs to be some type of bean or pea, so when you rotate the garden every year, that plot now has something which fertilizes the ground. You fail to do that, and the ground will be as useful as concrete.
    In conclusion, the simple fact of burning fields is not what makes the fields useless. What makes the fields useless is nutrient depletion, caused by planting the same crop on the same field every year.

    • @Nazuiko
      @Nazuiko Год назад +1

      Did you not catch the part where he mentioned crop rotation as the later solution to S/B's issues?

    • @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
      @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Год назад +10

      I did catch that. However, he failed to mention the fact that farmers burn their crops every year. That is part of what keeps crops fertile.
      However, rotating crops, or neglecting to, is what determines if land remains suitable for crops.

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +5

      @@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy partly true, partly not. Peas, beans etc only add nitrogen to the soil, nothing else! Chemical fertilisers damage soil microbes, so are not good, despite the video's claims, but what is in them gives a good idea of what crops need, they are generally called "NPK" fertilisers, Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Potassium. Nitrogen will actually suppress the growth of any plants other than leafy greens, causing the plant to produce only the leaves, not the fruit/seed/tubers. Legumes do NOT add potassium or phosphorous to soil. Ash adds potassium (pot ash), phosphorous can be added with animal manure or chemicals

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 6 месяцев назад

      Also read that the nitrogen fixed by the legumes don't get used by other plants until the legume dies back. Some people thought just simply intercropping legumes with their crops is enough.

  • @fastd63
    @fastd63 Год назад +230

    No dig on Simon, when ever someone talks about how much alcohol people used to drink, remember that getting fresh water and keeping it uncontaminated are modern things. Tainted water killed people all the time. Alcohol on the other had killed most bacteria and stayed drinkable longer.

    • @poohbear4821
      @poohbear4821 Год назад +23

      People still drank alot more water than many think they did though, as natural springs are pretty safe

    • @MelchiahTheObscene
      @MelchiahTheObscene Год назад +16

      That was limited to larger towns and cities, where waste could get into wells. Even then, it was weak brown ale at around 1-2%. Wine was common enough, but you wouldn't start the day with it unless you were wealthy.

    • @100percentSNAFU
      @100percentSNAFU Год назад +27

      ​@jasongermany5786"your wrong"...so entertaining seeing a person who can't even use proper grammar scold others 😂

    • @Taospark
      @Taospark Год назад +8

      Tainted water did kill and there are famous instances of it but it was not a huge issue until the early 19th Century and even then, only in industrial cities such as London.

    • @JonMartinYXD
      @JonMartinYXD Год назад +7

      Also wine had a much lower alcohol content back then.

  • @rustymeth7719
    @rustymeth7719 Год назад +33

    Horses use their throats to breathe. Brilliant. You are also very engrossing, I love your videos. Thank you to RUclips for coming across your channel many moons ago, and thank you for making one.

    • @feldgeist2637
      @feldgeist2637 Год назад +2

      I think other people outside of China had thoughts equally brilliant before the 5th century
      look at the roman mosaic at 2:25 for instance, showing a horse harnessed around the chest and head and with nothing around the neck ......there are other mosaics out there showing similar methods of harnessing horses and a pretty detailed head harness you can see at the "Pferdekopf von Waldgirmes".....it's alo not limited to Romans - Celts and Germans also used those....

    • @feldgeist2637
      @feldgeist2637 Год назад +2

      ah sorry, I thought he said 5th AD and not BC
      not sure about outerchinese usage of similar harness types during that time
      ...although I know of the existence of a quite developed looking head harness from earlier bronze age Denmark.....
      edit: there are also pre-silk road coins with harnessed quadriga horses - like Syracuse Tetradrachms from the 5th *BC*

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +2

      but fun fact, parrots throats are fully enclosed, so if you want to handle a parrot, you should hold it by it's neck & never by it's chest, as you will suffocate it if you hold it by it's chest, but have no risk of suffocating it by holding it by it's neck

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 Год назад +78

    A word on lead, and chemistry in general. All chemistry relies mostly on its valence band of electrons. That's the outer most orbital. That's why everyday table salt, sodium chloride (NaCl), is relatively harmless, and actually needed, in modest amounts. Yet pure sodium metal is extremely reactive, reacts violently, when exposed to water, and chlorine (chloride) in pure form is a poisonous gas. That's all due to the way they are bonded; the valence.
    Pure lead metal is quite benign. So are mercury, and even gold. Yet, all three of these metals when reacted with other elements, such as lead sulfides, they become toxic. Lead is mostly non-reactive, but will react when exposed to acids, such as those in wine. Holding lead solder in your teeth is way less dangerous than inhaling flakes of old lead based paint, as in the paint, its a lead oxide. Gold is usually considered safe, because it barely reacts with anything. But if you do, its extremely toxic.

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +3

      I'm glad I didn't become a big fan of fishing, because my grandfather taught me how to put lead weights on my fishing line by using his teeth to spread open or clamp down a weight instead of using needle nose pliers.
      I think I might have done that perhaps five or six times during my childhood, at the most. But I do remember that it always left a distinct metallic sweet aftertaste in my mouth.
      I get it about pure lead, but I believe I read somewhere that even a pure meta has a patina layer of oxidized lead wherever it gets exposed to oxygen. I may have that wrong, but I believe things like lead fishing weights or lead drinking cups will have a film of oxidized lead on them.

    • @jackreisewitz6632
      @jackreisewitz6632 Год назад +1

      In reference to gold.... quote, "but if you do,".... do what??
      Seriously, I've always been told gold was inert, as it's outer electron shell is full/complete. I have no idea how one would make it behave otherwise.
      Also, I'm curious. Some eastern cultures consume both gold, and more commonly, silver metal hammered into very thin flakes. Supposedly for a positive health effect. I've never read an impartial analysis of the practice. Have you heard of this practice? And if so, what do you know about it?

    • @lordkelvin100thompson8
      @lordkelvin100thompson8 Год назад

      @@jackreisewitz6632 You've been told wrong. Gold has one electron in its outermost shell. If its outer shell was completely filled, it would be a gas like helium, neon,argon, krypton, xenon or radon. That it isn't shows gold atoms can stick together to form crystals. Granted, it's not very reactive, but will react with powerful reagents like "agua regia" (mixed nitric and hydrochloric acids) or by anodizing.

    • @ericlipps9459
      @ericlipps9459 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@lordkelvin100thompson8 Actually, even xenon will react with fluorine, forming at least three compounds, xenon difluoride, xenon tetrafluoride, and xenon hexafluoride. Elements in a particular row of the periodic table tend to become progressively more "metallic," which in the case of the noble gases means more reactive, as you go down the row toward heavier elements.

  • @yeetlydiscreetly
    @yeetlydiscreetly Год назад +194

    "Torture wasn't common until the earliest Catholic Inquisitions. . ."
    The Ancient World would like to argue about that one.

    • @daffers2345
      @daffers2345 Год назад +43

      That bugged me too. The Romans, for instance, were _experts_ at torturing humans. The use of crucifixion with the T-shaped crossbeam on an upright pole was pure torture and they knew exactly how to make it incredibly painful for a really long time. It's said that some crucified men would hang up there for many days ... putting the nail through the lower part of the hand where it meets the wrist would put it right through the sciatic nerve, causing a shooting fiery pain, plus the radius and ulna would keep the spike from ripping out ... there's much more to it than that, but I'm getting depressed typing it out.
      He might be referring to torture as a form of getting information, but it still doesn't seem correct that it "started" with the Catholic Church in the 1300s.

    • @Jeffrey314159
      @Jeffrey314159 Год назад +42

      Yeah that sounds like antiCatholic propaganda

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 Год назад +29

      ​@@daffers2345the earliest archeological evidence for torture (that we are aware of at least) comes from like 7000 BC and it's mentioned in ancient scriptures that predate not just the Catholic Church but even the earliest parts of the Old Testament, so it's definitely bullshit.

    • @daffers2345
      @daffers2345 Год назад +9

      @@igorbednarski8048 I believe you! I'm just pointing out that it didn't start with the Catholic Church, so I think the video is wrong :/

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 Год назад +6

      @@daffers2345 well, yeah, my comment was not a criticism of your comment, it was a criticism of the video

  • @FaithfulOfBrigantia
    @FaithfulOfBrigantia Год назад +14

    Torture didn't start/become widespread only after the inquisition. Ancient civilization, expecially the Assyrians, were very, VERY inventive on their methods.

  • @jfruser
    @jfruser Год назад +28

    Torture is as old as the hills in most every culture. It did not begin with the Catholic Inquisition.

  • @danielsass1826
    @danielsass1826 Год назад +71

    Simon did you really say torture didnt exist until the middle ages? Ummm crucifixion? The seasaw? Execution ad glatium?

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF 7 месяцев назад +4

      Modern playgrounds still have seesaws 😢

    • @joegroup1
      @joegroup1 6 месяцев назад +2

      According to Google translate, "ad glatium" means, "to the gladiolus". I like the idea of a gladiator poking another gladiator or a condemned criminal with gladiolus. LOL.

    • @eddarby469
      @eddarby469 6 месяцев назад +7

      Yea, the statement that torture wasn't used until ... is easily refuted.

    • @danielsass1826
      @danielsass1826 6 месяцев назад +3

      He said it wasn't common. But in ancient Greece it was thought that the only way you could trust a slaves testimony was if it was given thru torture

    • @danielsass1826
      @danielsass1826 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DILFDylFyea but they don't have the lions anymore

  • @Svensk7119
    @Svensk7119 Год назад +190

    Thank you. Simon. You mentioned that slash-and-burn farming, on the small, local scale CAN be sustainable. You used a different adjective.... but you mentioned it. Local Amazonians use (used) a rotation system where they used an area for five years, after which it was unusable for about a century. This was not for the slash-and-burn, but the nature of that soil. The slash-and-burn was to fertilize the soill for the brief period of use.

    • @liquidpixel2055
      @liquidpixel2055 Год назад +9

      Aboriginals also. Now Australia has bushfires every year

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Год назад +12

      Finns in Finland did it too. Small patches of the forest was burned and rocks were moved from the area, making low rock walls around the area. You can still find random rock wall in our forests some times, showing where there used to be a field.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 Год назад +3

      @@liquidpixel2055 Not necessarily agriculture, but certainly slashing by burning.

    • @neos1234125
      @neos1234125 Год назад +4

      ​@@liquidpixel2055cane farmers also used to burn the fields before harvesting to get rid of rats and leaf litter. Not common now but happen all the time 20 odd years ago when I was a kid

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +7

      I lived on schofield barracks in Hawaii in the 1970s. Right off base was miles and miles of sugar cane fields. Every autumn they would burn the fields *after harvest* (so they didn't burn up all the usable crop *before harvest)*
      We used to call it black snow because our housing area always received a shower of ashes every time they burned another section.

  • @SC-zq6cu
    @SC-zq6cu Год назад +27

    Pretty sure earlier horse harnesses didn't set back anyone as it was still more useful than having no harness at all. If you call an invention a setback just because a more efficient version of it came around later on then you could include almost every human invention in this list.

  • @MeanBeanComedy
    @MeanBeanComedy Год назад +14

    Torture was *definitely* common before the 1300s.

  • @blixten2928
    @blixten2928 Год назад +79

    Just a note: the historical jury is still out on slash-and-burn. It was extremely nature-friendly, sustainable and useful to smaller, mobile populations. And, the Maya had many different types of agricultural production.

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +15

      yes, but the jury is not still out on chemical fertilisers, they are absolutely a more serious problem in the damage they cause to the soil than slash & burn has any potential to be. He screwed up badly on that one, suggesting they are a better option!

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman Год назад +2

      @@mehere8038 And modern fertiliser from fossil fuels are a finite resource. What is worse is that the earth can only grow enough food for 3 billion people and that fertiliser production, and food production has been dropping, and likely to continue shrinking. This means that by 2100 there will likely be billions of people fewer on earth.

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +1

      @@coweatsman What fertilisers are from fossil fuels? I'm not really aware of that issue, can you enlighten me? I am aware that phosphorous is a mined, limited resourse & like "peak oil", "peak phosphorous" is thought to have passed & supplies will be exhausted within the next 50-100 years at current use/growth of use rates, maybe less! & I'm also aware that Nitrous Oxide, a greenhouse gas 200 times more powerful than CO2 & also ozone destroying, is primarily from chemical fertilisers & I'm aware that crop land globally is degrading overall & therefore yields dropping where that is happening & that chemical fertilisers play a bit part in this process (erosion being the other huge issue)

    • @blckspice5167
      @blckspice5167 Год назад

      No its not

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman Год назад +1

      @@blckspice5167 Slash and burn agriculture lasted longer than industrial agriculture will, now faced with degrading soils, and short of fertiliser production and only going to become worse in the decades ahead. Modern agriculture is the use of land to turn petrochemical products into food. The problem is #PeakOil which occurred in November 2018 which the media forgot to tell you about.Brace yourself for a rough ride and enjoy the empty supermarket selves we are now seeing.

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar Год назад +61

    In some areas, arsenic makeup was used around the eyes. It had a big advantage : It could protect from some bacterial infections that would make you go blind. The disadvantage was, well... Arsenic poisoning. There where also antimony based makeups with the same advantages and disadvantage...

    • @joesands8860
      @joesands8860 Год назад +2

      Same with Uranium.

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +2

      Modern makeup isn't any better.
      A lot of the dyes and waterproofing are toxic and contain heavy metals.

  • @stephimalzkorn
    @stephimalzkorn Год назад +9

    I love the "Roman concrete was better than modern concrete" myth. There's a good video by practical engineering explaining concrete.

  • @johndoe5432
    @johndoe5432 Год назад +25

    9:40 But that's just objectively incorrect? We have numerous records of instances of Ancient civilizations employing utterly horrific methods with shocking regularity. The brass bull, the boats, flaying, etc, etc just to name a few. The Romans in particular enjoyed the spectacle of execution of dissidents by wild animals. These all predate the Catholic Church by quite some time.

    • @trevzy91
      @trevzy91 Год назад +4

      Most of this video is pretty bad, the horse thing doesn’t belong, it’s a list of innovations that helped not hurt. Torture is ancient, punishment has always been part of human culture and ‘other groups’ have always been fair game. Most of the last section is just anti-Catholic rhetoric, most of the inquisitions and harms blamed on the church were carried out by the state (often for political gain, not religious reasons).
      The writer of this video just googled a few topics and probably did none of the research in the making of this video.

    • @moregumy
      @moregumy Год назад +2

      Absolutely correct! Just full of anti-Catholic bigotry

    • @alecshockowitz8385
      @alecshockowitz8385 Год назад +1

      Not to mention the fact that Torture in the post Roman world was still used EXTREMELY often, even prior to the Reformation.
      I mean, there are some estimates that put 2% of every generation in Western Europe dying of Torture, meanwhile 1% was actually executed after found guilty.
      (~800-1500~)

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@moregumy That's not how you spell 'facts' kiddo. You can't be bigoted towards that murderous, full of pedos and war criminals organization, it anything Simon was way too soft...

  • @brucemarshall9866
    @brucemarshall9866 Год назад +23

    agriculture so freakin innovative it has to be mentioned twice lol

    • @vientosnomadas655
      @vientosnomadas655 Год назад

      i had to rewind to see if i had just mis-heard the first time hahaha

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 Год назад +28

    0:40 - Chapter 1 - Roman plumbing & cooking
    1:55 - Chapter 2 - Horse power
    4:30 - Chapter 3 - Slash & burn farming
    6:40 - Chapter 4 - Cosmetics
    8:30 - Chapter 5 - Crime & punishment

    • @ricklewis2068
      @ricklewis2068 Год назад +2

      Crime and Punishment is actually Chapter 2 again, according to the title card ha

  • @zephyer-gp1ju
    @zephyer-gp1ju Год назад +37

    I saw a video here on You Tube of an experiment in Brazil where they took a worn out plot of land and dumped a massive amount of orange peels on it. The peels came from an orange juice making company.
    After some time the land revived and started growing plants again and supported wild life.

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +8

      Anything that adds life back to soil can help. The peels decomposed and the microorganisms that broke them down excreted the constituent minerals and nutrients.
      You can also revitalize dead soil with coffee grounds, manure, kitchen scraps, charcoal, etc.

    • @ngauruhoezodiac3143
      @ngauruhoezodiac3143 Год назад +1

      Tribes in the Amazon used terra preta ( charcoal sticks embedded in the soil ) to keep nutrients in. Has anyone tried it today?

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +8

      The best option is actually livestock. That is in fact the ONLY option that's been found to work on mine tailings or volcanic rocks, where the soil has been turned into just dirt & rock, with no living microbes left. In those settings, manure is the best option, as it is full of the microbes the soil needs, but by depositing it via the livestock, rather than via truck, it means the livestock trample it into the existing soil as well & stir everything up, so as to bring it back to life, particularly when the liquid from the urine is added into the mix.
      If you were to dump the orange peels onto the land, add some hay & then bring in some cattle to eat all of that, it would take only 1-2 weeks before the soil would be restored. The orange peel alone will take a minimum of 3 months before it reaches that same point reached within 1 week if cattle are allowed to process the peel via their rumen microbes

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF 7 месяцев назад +1

      Please, PLEASE tell me what worms have to do with any of that

    • @outinthesticks1035
      @outinthesticks1035 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@DILFDylFworms crawl around inside the soil , loosening it so rain can soak in . They poop , so that adds to the soil. And when they die the bodies add also. Birds and animals hunt and eat the worms , their poop and dead bodies add to it as well

  • @danieldesiata5560
    @danieldesiata5560 Год назад +33

    I don't think it's true that Damascus steel is better than modern steel today. We have so many varieties of steel for so many different purposes that it's not really comparable, plus we can make weapons grade steel just as good or better today, particularly because of modern alloys.

    • @JordonBeal
      @JordonBeal Год назад +8

      Yea, and the technique is very definitely not “lost.”
      Strange that this myth is popping up more and more often lately.

    • @MegaLucky0013
      @MegaLucky0013 Год назад

      Bulat Steel has come close, visually it looks like Damascus too. But it's like a Chinese knock-off of a Russian AK-swries. Looks and performs similarly, but not quite.

  • @karoltakisobie6638
    @karoltakisobie6638 Год назад +11

    Torture is as old as humanity. Some of cannibalistic cultures used torture before kill as well. That practice survived in torturing dogs bred for consumption.

  • @aSoulJourner
    @aSoulJourner Год назад +46

    I really enjoy your videos, HOWEVER the piece about torture was wildly inaccurate. Torture was practice wildly and from long periods of time. We have vast records from The Assyrian empire (depicting torture in great detail on the walls of the imperial palaces.) Chinese chronicles many torture methods applied over time, Mesoamerica tortures - this to name a few.

    • @rustyhowe3907
      @rustyhowe3907 Год назад

      That's where we also learn that tickle torture was reserved by the Chinese for royalty and people of high status as it did no physical harm.

  • @prenticehammond2003
    @prenticehammond2003 Год назад +29

    My grandparents had a lead pipe that brought water to the house from a spring for many years. I believe the difference was the water was always running. It ran into the house, into a non-lead catch basin, then out. No stagnent water. They lived into their 80s/90s. My mother is now 91.
    Now using well water and modern plumbing.

    • @therealinformalmusic
      @therealinformalmusic Год назад +4

      The scale which would eventually coat the inner surface of lead pipes in Roman (and modern) times rendered the water comparatively safe.

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF 7 месяцев назад +1

      My grandpa had one lead pipe that he used to bonk field mice with

  • @TheSplendidCatDuck
    @TheSplendidCatDuck Год назад +56

    Simon, your in depth yet amusing looks at so many varied subjects, have kept me entertained and informed for years. Thank you
    Ps You need more channels

    • @slayingroosters4355
      @slayingroosters4355 Год назад

      That's funny you wildly misspelled the word time. Unless "channel" is time in a language I'm unaware of 😂😂

    • @slayingroosters4355
      @slayingroosters4355 Год назад +3

      @Saravai he said ps you need more channels, I'm implying that Simon doesn't possibly have enough time for another channel 👍🏿

    • @TheVillainInGlasses
      @TheVillainInGlasses Год назад +3

      @@slayingroosters4355 I dunno how you misspelled "clones" as "time", but here we are.

    • @johndoe5432
      @johndoe5432 Год назад +1

      What he needs is better researchers, a lot of this information is either half truths or outright incorrect.

  • @strongwolf8534
    @strongwolf8534 Год назад +6

    Just a quick correction. in the intro the example of "Damascus steel" you showed is not actually Damascus steel, it's welded steel. True Damascus steel was crucible steel (high carbon) with most impurities removed. This steel is roughly equivalent to what industrial steel is like today in modern times but without the precision smelting of modern tech. Welded steel can be sturdy to a point but the bigger the piece the more likely it is to contain air pockets which make it brittle and due to the welding, layering, and grains is arguably less effective than high carbon steel which is far more flexible (as far as I am aware), with spring temper being arguably the best steel for weapons and possibly armor. For further clarification, Damascus steel got it's name from where Nordic traders often picked it up from: Damascus, Syria (formerly Persia).

  • @TROOPERfarcry
    @TROOPERfarcry Год назад +5

    Lead pipes.
    The periodic-table symbol for lead is "Pb"... which is short for "Plumbum"... it's where we get the word "plumbing".

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 Год назад +18

    Some Victorian and Edwardian houses still have lead pipes. My house is a 1920s one, it has copper pipes.
    Where cosmetics are concerned we seemed to have replace poisonous chemicals with potentially carcinogenic ones instead. 🙄

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +1

      I think it's Ethiopia or Somalia, but somewhere they use the black core material from alkaline batteries as eye shadow. They collect used AA, AAA, and C batteries and split them open and mash the cores in some paste and rub it on their eyes.
      But the cosmetics at the drug store really arent much better. They use all kinds of heavy metals and petroleum byproducts.

    • @Laura-kl7vi
      @Laura-kl7vi Год назад +1

      @@PhilLesh69 Yes. Cosmetics and other toiletries in the US are barely regulated, and have toxins and carcinogens in them that are banned in the EU and Canada. Once in a while they find lead in lipstick, for example. They don't have to list ingredients. (US does a great job with drug safety)_

    • @tp6335
      @tp6335 Год назад

      The thing is, those poisons from back then we're also carcinogens, people just didn't live long enough to get cancer. In fact most acute poisons are suspected to cause cancer in chronic exposure to them

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman Год назад +1

      @@tp6335 Not really. The low life expectancy is misinterpreted. It represents a high infant mortality. If one survived to 18 the chances were good that you would live to 40, 50, 60 or more. You could not run a society where everyone died before 30.

  • @samstevens7888
    @samstevens7888 Год назад +20

    Simons favorite quote come to mind watching this....The past was the worst lol

  • @chriskelso723
    @chriskelso723 Год назад +1

    "...was surrounded by fresh flowers." Best torture ever. LMAO

  • @juzojuzo1806
    @juzojuzo1806 Год назад +7

    As much as i love your videos, well produced and mostly dilligently researched as they are, that intro speech reminds me to still take them with a grain of salt

    • @thomasmacdiarmid8251
      @thomasmacdiarmid8251 Год назад +6

      For me it was the content that did that - most of the things mentioned were advances on desired things, like the original collars on horses. Codes of law were often harsh by modern standards, but they usually were less destructive than the retribution exercised by families getting revenge for real or perceived wrongs. And the claim that torture was a medieval invention is either amazingly ignorant or simply dishonest.

    • @IamtheWV17
      @IamtheWV17 Год назад +2

      ​@@thomasmacdiarmid8251I'm honestly inclined towards dishonesty in this case.

    • @feldgeist2637
      @feldgeist2637 Год назад

      take it from the comment section - lots of salt spilled by outraged historians in this one .....really fun this time 😂
      but horse harnesses coming from China and toture from late medieval Europe are really a bit off
      look at a Tetradrachm from Gelon's Syracuse or the ancient chinese "Five Punishments"
      but roman concrete was better than modern standard concrete and blades from modern steel are inferior to good old ones

  • @Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic
    @Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic 5 месяцев назад +1

    Religion is the one invention that has set humanity back more than any other.

  • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
    @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Год назад +10

    I do have to point out that the Inquisition used torture far less than secular authorities did, and ecclesiastical courts were also known for giving fairer trials and giving people sentences to better prisons than secular courts, so much so that people would deliberately commit blasphemy or heresy to get out of a secular jail!

    • @Laura-kl7vi
      @Laura-kl7vi Год назад

      It's all relative. They killed whole swaths of people, like Muslims and Jews, forced people to convert, tortured people in the name of their god. They'd kill even converted Christians to see if they were secretly practicing Judaism. They'd get them to point to other people, even their families, to suffer the mercy of being killed quickly. Or, perhaps you think being burned at the stake isn't torture. I have to point out that what they did is horrific and from what I read there weren't fair trials. Perhaps for a narrow swath of crimes. But not the crimes of "being" something you weren't supposed to be.

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni Год назад +1

      Your facts are clearly countered by angry rhetoric!

  • @willyd-adv
    @willyd-adv Год назад +2

    New Zealand farmers could learn SO much from your slash and burn segment. The way farming is done here beggers belief

  • @kevinsnyder15
    @kevinsnyder15 Год назад +6

    Just found this channel. Been following a few others for a while but had no idea about this one. Can you mention all your projects at the end of a video at some point?

    • @888johnmac
      @888johnmac Год назад

      if you click on the video description they're all there ( 11 currently )

  • @ripvanwinkle2002
    @ripvanwinkle2002 Год назад +7

    last time i was this early Simon only had one channel

  • @MF_UNDERTOW
    @MF_UNDERTOW Год назад +4

    Saying modern damascus steel is inferior to ancient damascus is nonsense. There’s a wide range of steels used to make damascus now but there’s no way that modern metallurgy isn’t far superior to anything made in ancient times.

  • @stevenjlovelace
    @stevenjlovelace Год назад +11

    You could definitely do a video about modern "innovations" as well. Leaded gasoline comes to mind. Or thalidomide.

    • @Dingghis_Khaan
      @Dingghis_Khaan Год назад +3

      "Damn you, Midgely!" I cry out as I shake my fist at the clouds.

    • @pedrolmlkzk
      @pedrolmlkzk Год назад +3

      Plastic, aluminium cookware, social media...

  • @bradleycaffee4253
    @bradleycaffee4253 Год назад +70

    The lead thing is over-blown. Most Roman pipes weren't lead, but were rather terra cotta. Even the lead pipes quickly developed an inner lining of lime.
    While lead vessels were used, that was in the purview of the wealthy minority. Even the wealthy minority would have used plenty of other kinds of material vessels. Also, it's worth noting that things like lead plates were dangerous primarily when containing high-acidity foods (like tomatoes.)

    • @anthonyjackson280
      @anthonyjackson280 Год назад +23

      tomatoes - which the Ancient Romans definitely did not have.... and they were aware of the dangers of lead poisoning. Thank you for mentioning the lime coating, I was going to.

    • @brendant19
      @brendant19 Год назад +4

      There are still lead pipes in use all over the world right now. They're only dangerous when they're new.

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 Год назад +10

      Honestly this entire episode isn't exactly well-researched. Whoever the author was did a poor, superficial job

    • @roycsinclair
      @roycsinclair Год назад +10

      @@Tinil0 Even the opening bit about Roman Concrete and Damascus Steel being unmatched today are wrong as we know how both were made and how to reproduce them. The odd thing is that I think there is an episode recorded by Simon about Roman Concrete and how it's self repairing works which I guess is the proof that Simon does so many of these that he forgets loads.

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 Год назад +10

      @@roycsinclair I don't think he really stores any of the info in his mind at all. He just farms out concepts from his writers and then narrates it. He constantly goes over similar things across his total channels and on the more casual ones he frequently admits he has really no idea what he is talking about, he just reads the script into the camera. It's why he is so notoriously bad at pronouncing things haha.

  • @charlesian2000
    @charlesian2000 Год назад +1

    That was not Damascus steel in your intro, that was pattern welded steel. In the 1970’s they (the ubiquitous they) used it as a marketing term for Damascus steel. Damascus steel has a totally different production technique.
    I’m sure others have made this comment, but this is the first time I’ve seen your channel.

  • @miral6694
    @miral6694 Год назад +3

    "Arsenic, more commonly known as rat poison..."
    Hun I'm pretty sure it's most commonly known as arsenic. It's the single best-known poison in the planet. I'm guessing you got a lot more "they sell arsenic to poison rats!?" than "oh that's just another name for rat poison."

  • @Jay-ln1co
    @Jay-ln1co Год назад +2

    Just goes to show that avoidance to paying taxes is universal and timeless.

  • @Nathan-vt1jz
    @Nathan-vt1jz Год назад +49

    Roman concrete isn’t superior to moderns concrete. It has a couple of advantages for longevity, but lacks others and has lower overall strength.

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 Год назад +9

      Yet we only just figured out how they made it! It lasts a lot longer than modern concrete.

    • @coreytaylor5386
      @coreytaylor5386 Год назад +3

      @@atodaso1668 yeah but only on a technicality, we put rebar into the concrete to give it tensile strength and its that rebar that make concrete fail relatively quickly while also being expected to take on significantly heavier loads than a horse or two. and also more obviously, we havent had 2k+ years to put our concrete to the test to weather against time

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 Год назад +17

      @@coreytaylor5386 Our concrete struggles to last 150 years. It's the self healing abilities of the roman concrete that modern concrete doesn't have that make it last.

    • @janekgaganek3871
      @janekgaganek3871 Год назад +7

      also the mentioned damascus is not better than modern steel, it was just very good for their time. Also we do know how to make the original damascus, yet there are very few places the ore can be mined from.

    • @T.Hebert
      @T.Hebert Год назад +6

      @@atodaso1668Try measuring how long Roman concrete survives when under the same stress modern concrete endures.

  • @Nasafalkas1
    @Nasafalkas1 Год назад +1

    My grandfather used to tell me that the reason Roman emperors often went mad was because of the lead. I'm amazed the empire held together as long as it did.

  • @AlexandruVoda
    @AlexandruVoda Год назад +24

    Roman concrete and Damascus steel are not superior to modern alternatives, but the contrary. Also we do know how to replicate both with similar results. What we do not know is the exact historically acurate process to obtain them.

    • @Wolf-oc6tx
      @Wolf-oc6tx Год назад +2

      If you want a blade to be pretty and functional go for Damascus steel, if you want a blade to be top tier functional use a high grade modern still like tool steel.

    • @joeycampbell940
      @joeycampbell940 Год назад +1

      ​@@Wolf-oc6txtool steel is far to hard, spring steel is the absolute best for blades.

    • @Wolf-oc6tx
      @Wolf-oc6tx Год назад +1

      @@joeycampbell940 I used tool steel as an example because that is a metal that's used in making blades that can cut other forms of steel.

    • @TheRatOnFire_
      @TheRatOnFire_ Год назад +4

      ​@@joeycampbell940Roman Concrete is better for longevity, modern for force.

    • @AlexandruVoda
      @AlexandruVoda Год назад +6

      @@TheRatOnFire_ Modern concrete is also great for longevity. What destroys that longevity is steel rebar. We use rebar because it enables structures previously impossible. There are types of rebar that do not rust but they are far more expensive and we simply do not build structures we desire to last hundreds of years. Modern concrete is however worse than Roman concrete in contact with sea water.

  • @jarryd13loki
    @jarryd13loki Год назад

    Watched so many of your blazes recently, that it threw me off with you keeping on topic and sounding professional.

  • @Dingghis_Khaan
    @Dingghis_Khaan Год назад +3

    Lead has not only been detrimental because of its effect on Roman civilization, but also on modern civilization through tetraethyl-lead. You can blame Thomas Midgely Jr. for a significant spike in lead poisoning worldwide through leaded gasoline fumes spreading across the globe. American society, I think, has suffered the most.

  • @D2theJ26
    @D2theJ26 Год назад +7

    Due to the high concentration and use of lime stone in and around the water systems in rome a layer of calcium built up in the pipes which would have significantly reduced or prevented lead from leaching into the water.

  • @G0rgar
    @G0rgar Год назад +6

    Ancient damascus steel is not superior to modern steel, it's superior to what else was available at the time. For a long time we didn't know exactly how it was made but the modern stuff was better, so what was the motivation? We've figured it out, (vanadium impurities and making it in a cruicible, iirc) Similarly we've fairly recently figured out Roman concrete.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 6 месяцев назад

      Reminds me of the myths around the Japanese folded steel blades (Tamahagane), which did not result in a superior blade compared to what we had in Europe. It resulted in an acceptable blade when using the decidedly crappy Japanese iron ore.

  • @garethmurtagh2814
    @garethmurtagh2814 Год назад +1

    The irony of torture being authorised by someone using the name “Innocent…”

  • @jameslmorehead
    @jameslmorehead Год назад +3

    Lead pipes get a coat of minerals in them fairly quickly. As long as this layer is not disturbed, it prevents lead from entering the water. Boiling anything in lead pots is a sure way to get lead poisoning.

  • @yaraviera4444
    @yaraviera4444 Год назад

    Thanks for this amazing program

  • @wscottwatson
    @wscottwatson Год назад +5

    Nowadays in the UK, if you don't pay your taxes, it depends on how much you owe.
    Up to perhaps 100K, you could end up in jail.
    If you underpay your taxes by enough millions, you could get knighted!

  • @martletkay
    @martletkay Год назад +2

    "We understand that slash and burn isn't worth it"
    Can someone tell Brazil?

  • @FatManWalking18
    @FatManWalking18 Год назад +4

    and then there were the "radium girls" who painted their teeth with radioactive paint

  • @Lefejame123
    @Lefejame123 Год назад

    Simon, you should do a multi video series breaking down the entirety of the Roman civilization. I can see that gobbling up more views than a game of hungry hippos

  • @nizarrifki6473
    @nizarrifki6473 Год назад +3

    0:04 agriculture twice-

  • @carlopton
    @carlopton Год назад

    Truly, a memorable video. If for nothing other than the "Fresh Flowers". LOL Very interesting info.

  • @up4open
    @up4open Год назад +8

    Actually, the calcium and silicon in most waters will coat a lead pipe in a few months and you'll be fine. The bigger problem with lead was that they used it as a Spice.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Год назад

    Thanks

  • @tessjuel
    @tessjuel Год назад +5

    0:10 Both Roman concrete and Damascus steel have been succesfully reporduced in modern times so there are no secrets there anymore.

    • @TrolledBy
      @TrolledBy Год назад +3

      The exact materials and production methods are lost to history, but we have backwards engineered how to reproduce a similar result. However, it doesn't really matter because they are not as good as modern steel and concrete.

    • @Laura-kl7vi
      @Laura-kl7vi Год назад +1

      As far as I know, Damascus steel has not been reproduced, only the look of it has. At least the metalworkers I know say what they call Damascus steel made now isn't the real thing.

  • @Seanicans
    @Seanicans Год назад

    Great video! I enjoyed this.
    I noticed a minor editing mistake. the section on punishment has The title card label of "Chapter Two" when it should be chapter 5.
    Still was great information in the content but I wanted to vocalize this observation.

  • @thomaslinton5765
    @thomaslinton5765 Год назад +4

    "Damascus steel," from India but encountered in the Middle East, has been reproduced. But for decades, it's a solution i=n search of a problem. Modern homogeneous steel are far superior to "Damascus," if not as pretty.
    Modern concrete is superior to Roman Concrete and not dependent on burning piles of clam shells to produce quick lime.

  • @drmadjdsadjadi
    @drmadjdsadjadi 6 месяцев назад +1

    It was a lot harder to convict the actual criminals, which is one reason why capital punishment was preferred punishment in earlier times. Of course, there were also a lot more wrongful convictions. However, since the likelihood that you would be tried and convicted of the actual crime you committed was lower, the punishment needed to be graver to act as an actual deterrent.

  • @JohnRandomness105
    @JohnRandomness105 Год назад +14

    A few historians view agriculture itself as humanity's greatest mistake. They have made plausible arguments, such as malnutrition and population growth wiping out the advantage of huge amounts of food.

    • @Taospark
      @Taospark Год назад +3

      It's simply a matter of what's better for scale. Farming is how we went from a few million sapiens to half a billion but via innumerable and horrible famines.

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад +2

      @@Taospark no, it's a question of whether we should have ever scaled. Should we act like lions, apex predator in the eco-system, or should we act like bacteria, destroying the eco-system via overpopulation, then moving on to colonise a new one when the first one dies?

    • @Taospark
      @Taospark Год назад +4

      @@mehere8038 On balance, it's a clear argument to say that scale enabled more cognitive challenges and more survivability of our species.
      It just also came with much higher stakes not just in the number of people who have routinely lost their lives due to farming shocks like famine, drought, or war but that we can now destroy a planet not just one ecosystem.

    • @mvalthegamer2450
      @mvalthegamer2450 Год назад +5

      Humans were out of balance for a very long time before the Agricultural Revolution. Humans drove most of the Ice Age megafauna to extinction before the first farms. Agriculture just allowed humans to pack people much more densely

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад

      @@mvalthegamer2450 true in some cases, or maybe in all as humans figured out where they fitted into ecosystems. In reality though, in cases like Australia, they can't even figure out for sure when megafauna went extinct, cause there's evidence that contradicts itself & when the last large predator went extinct, which usually results in a complete ecosystem failure, in Australia, there was no such thing, because humans were embedded in the ecosystem as the apex predator & keystone species, keeping everything completely stable. When white ones arrived, things totally changed & kangaroos started to go into "boom and bust" periods with overpopulation & then mass die offs, but all evidence says they were totally stable in population for millennia before that. Dingo introductions & Tasmanian tiger die offs on the mainland that accompanied it 5,000 years ago being the only really clear change to the ecosystem after the changes that occurred to the plants 120,000 years ago & the impacts of the 15,000 year long iceage mega drought.
      Not all human communities were causing destruction, a lot were living in harmony with the ecosystem, as a part of it - and not just in Australia

  • @brendant19
    @brendant19 Год назад +16

    The minerals in water create a crust on pipes that stops the lead from leaching into the water. This only takes decades. I'm skeptical that lead from pipes in Rome had any lasting health implications. I would guess that using lead drinking cups and just generally putting lead in everything was a much bigger issue.

    • @BarrySuridge
      @BarrySuridge Год назад

      Professionals in the field have already consigned this lead poisoning myth to history's rubbish bin.

    • @bradleycaffee4253
      @bradleycaffee4253 Год назад +6

      Plus, the household pipes (most of the pipes) were terra cotta rather than lead.

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Год назад +5

      The use of sugar of lead to sweeten wine was also a major mistake on the part of ancient Romans.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Год назад

      Then why aren’t we using it today

    • @brendant19
      @brendant19 Год назад +1

      @@tomhenry897 did you miss the part where lead pipes still leach lead into the water for years prior to developing a mineral lining? Also, we're very good at manipulating other metals. Lead was advantageous because it's malleable and easy to produce. Iron, which is trivially easy to make now (though we also use ABS and other materials) was not as plentiful or easy to fold into pipes as lead hundreds or thousands of years ago.

  • @BardovBacchus
    @BardovBacchus Год назад +1

    I'm peacefully enjoying one of your many videos because I love your voice. I could literally listen to you read the dictionary. However, I have a question about something that troubles me regularly. Who the heck does the sound for your videos Fact Boi?!? I got a bone to pick with them. Why is there a mild phone alarm sound at 10:47..? I can't tell you how many times I have to pause one of your videos because of some weird sound in the background. They pick the most distracting music so often. Why do they need to put noise over a monologue..?

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 Год назад +4

    Based on what's said here, I think Mayan justice was the Goldilocks system, myself. Just right. Edit: But maybe I've just watched too much RUclips true crime. Thank you again, Simon and The Casual Criminalist.

  • @aick
    @aick Год назад +1

    0:04 Agriculture, Metalwork, and Agriculture? You're losing it, Simon.

  • @fluffysheap
    @fluffysheap Год назад +3

    For lead to be a problem you need two things : acidic water and stagnant water. Lead pipes are not really a big deal, especially for the Romans who mostly used plumbing in public works that ran frequently, if not constantly.
    Now putting it in cosmetics and using it as a sweetener on the other hand...

  • @1gient
    @1gient Год назад +1

    Interestingly the Romans actually knew that lead was bad for water. One of the emperors even tried to get a switch to pipes made of a different material.

  • @dennisbarker5986
    @dennisbarker5986 Год назад +4

    I wonder if anyone has tested the lead in Washington DC around all the old buildings on capital hill could explain alot

  • @Hankbob_Hillpants
    @Hankbob_Hillpants Год назад +2

    0:10 both Roman concrete and crucible Damascus have been replicated, also modern high carbon spring steel absolutely shits on Damascus in every way except aesthetics

  • @thestevenjaywaymusic7775
    @thestevenjaywaymusic7775 Год назад +6

    Funny, but lead pipes were used in the UK from the 1800’s until the later part of the 20th century. Could this explain anything?

    • @maiaallman4635
      @maiaallman4635 Год назад

      I think lead is more soluble in hot water (like a cooking pot) than in cold water (like water pipes).

    • @marvinamann4969
      @marvinamann4969 Год назад +3

      In most cases, mineral deposits in the water, mostly lime, coat pipes. Therefore the lead doesn't have any direct contact anymore with the drinking water after just a short period of usage. So Lead pipes were bad, but actually not as bad as people think.

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 Год назад +1

      I heard that was the problem with Flint. They had lead pipes, but it wasn't originally a problem because the water they got from Detroit had an additive that maintained a protective layer inside the lead pipes. When they switched to their own water supply they didn't include the additives and the protective layer started flaking off and contaminating the water with lead.

    • @marvinamann4969
      @marvinamann4969 Год назад +1

      @@battlesheep2552 To my knowledge the new water source was corrosive, which removed the natural protective layer and than leached the lead from the pips. Something similar happened in the late middle ages with tomatoes:
      People used silverware to eat that contained lead and mercury. Usually wasn't a massive problem due to the oxidation layer that stoped the metal to leak into people's food. However, tomatoes are slightly asidic, so they leached the poisones metals out of the silverware. When people fell ill after eating tomatoes they believed that tomatoes were poisonous

    • @Laura-kl7vi
      @Laura-kl7vi Год назад

      @@marvinamann4969 I heard that same thing about tomatoes as well. It's a "new world" food, so it'd never been an issue before for Europeans. Apparently richer people used pewter plates and cuts, and those were what leached lead. (I don't know about mercury)

  • @pothoc1
    @pothoc1 Год назад +2

    Slash and burn farming is still used in Maine but only for certain crops. It is still very common to see blueberry farms use this method as the rock can't get any worse

  • @sydhenderson6753
    @sydhenderson6753 Год назад +3

    Kohl often was stibnite, which is antimony sulfide. Not quite as dangerous as galena (lead sulfide) which seems to have become more common.

  • @dzcav3
    @dzcav3 Год назад +1

    "Another man who was accused of cheating on taxes was surrounded by fresh flowers." That sounds like today for a member of a certain incumbent political family.

  • @CyrilleParis
    @CyrilleParis Год назад +4

    The first part about Roman plumbing is a urban myth : lead is extremely toxic but it has to come inside the body before. Natural water is generally basic or alcaline there are localized exceptions). When in contact with lead, this alcaline natural water produces a thin layer of alcaline salts on the surface of the lead in a few seconds? This layer prevents all lead or lead composites to go into the water. That is why the first thing to be forbiden in the modern world were lead paints, lead gas and lead beauty produces, not lead pipes which are still is in use in many old buidings all across Europe and America.
    As for the culinry tools : lead is not a good metal to use. Most of the roman culinary tools were clay, bronze, iron or steel.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Год назад

      Then why arnt we using lead pipes today

    • @CyrilleParis
      @CyrilleParis Год назад +2

      @@tomhenry897 The short answer : PVC is cheaper, easyer to transport and easyer to work with.
      But you still find lead pipes in many old buildings that are perfectly ok.

    • @CyrilleParis
      @CyrilleParis Год назад +1

      @@tomhenry897 There is something else : in the European Community, some 15 years ago, the plastic industry lobbied to pass a law telling that the water should have less than a fixed threashold of lead in drinking water. The threashold was so low that, at the time, no detector on the market was precise enough to detect so few molecules.
      So, if someone says to you "you have to change your lead pipes to PVC ones", say no : they just want your money and you will not be poisonned (except at the end of your life if you live more than 500 years...).
      There is a HUGE caveat to my last advice : if the water in your area is not alcaline but acid (which is quite uncommon but not rare) : run to change your lead pipes. Ask the local authorities about the acidity of your water or make yourself a measure before taking any decision.
      PS.: I used to be in the trade of fighting against lead poisoning for the French State for some years. All the professionals were against this EU law at the time because we wanted the money not spent on useless works put into changing perfectly good pipes but still going to tackle risks : mainly removing lead paints which are a very real danger.

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog 5 месяцев назад +1

    and the modern invention of the "smart" phone with makes everyone who uses them get dumber by the day....

  • @changer_of_ways_999
    @changer_of_ways_999 Год назад +9

    I don't know who wrote this one, but this video is probably the most inaccurate video with Simon I've ever seen. I don't even know where to start. Even the premise itself seems imprecise and oddly applied as a theme connecting the "facts." This feels like a Wikipedia article at best. wtf, Simon.

    • @blixten2928
      @blixten2928 Год назад +2

      You malign Wikipedia. Look up these issues there, and you'll see better scholarship.

  • @datman6266
    @datman6266 Год назад +1

    oh! oh! We figured out roman concrete not long ago!! It is not as strong as the portland stuff but lasts longer.. basically the fact that we figured this out is fascinating!

  • @ginnyjollykidd
    @ginnyjollykidd Год назад +4

    Purveyors of Damascus steel say it's superior but it's not. If anything it is comparable to some modern steels.

  • @roguedogx
    @roguedogx Год назад +1

    1:02 that literally explains everything about the Roman empire in one fact.

    • @roguedogx
      @roguedogx Год назад

      1:28 so it was lead with some water in it.

  • @2Potates
    @2Potates Год назад +6

    Social media

  • @melly1432
    @melly1432 Год назад +1

    3:38 I’ve been watching Simon’s channels for a bit and I would only jokingly ask him “what’s a linebacker, then?”

  • @itswilbur3747
    @itswilbur3747 Год назад +6

    Agritecture? Archiculture?
    Crops you could live in and buildings you could eat...😆

  • @MultiSteveB
    @MultiSteveB Год назад

    0:02 "Their advancements in agriculture, metal work, and agriculture..."
    So important they had to mention it twice! XD

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 Год назад +8

    my grandfather was one of the first farmers in his area to reject the practice of field burning for the exact reason mentioned: the composting cycle takes about 10 years. field burning compresses it to one year. which means 9 years of crops being better than average, and then it's all below average, until 10 years after you stop.

    • @knurlgnar24
      @knurlgnar24 Год назад

      Field burning makes sense when land is nearly free, or is communal property. Once private ownership was both enshrined in law and actually enforced it no longer makes sense.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Год назад +1

      @@knurlgnar24 field burning really only made sense when there was a surplus of land, and the burning of it was used to clear woody debris that made plowing more difficult. it was a lot less labor intensive to burn tree stumps to clear a field than to dig them out and then figure out what to do with them.

    • @liquidpixel2055
      @liquidpixel2055 Год назад

      Tell that to the Aussies dealing with bushfires every year! Morons

    • @PhilLesh69
      @PhilLesh69 Год назад +1

      There is a way to take the biomass leftover from crops and turn it into a thing called biochar. When that is tilled into the soil it actually makes the soil an almost perpetual self replenishing soil.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Год назад +1

      @@PhilLesh69 no, it doesn't. all it does is accelerate the natural composting process. so for 9 years, you are getting the nutrients from the composted material still in the process, and the biochar, then after that 9 years, the composted material is used up, just as I said. 10 years after his neighbors started burning, they were back to buying just as much fertilizer as my grandfather was. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino Год назад +2

    07:13 - Lead again, huh? 😅
    Well am I thankful I live in the 21st century!

  • @hillbillync655
    @hillbillync655 Год назад +5

    "Torture wasn't common until the 13th century", really. I was reading this book that listed in some detail a 1st century civilization that would allow lions at certain citizens. And there was mention of hanging people on crossed timbers, crucible, no, cruciferous, no, oh well it escapes my mind at the moment.

  • @ScionStorm1
    @ScionStorm1 Год назад +1

    "He was surrounded by fresh flowers."
    And then the bees were unleashed.
    _No! Not the bees!_

  • @mutantryeff
    @mutantryeff Год назад +9

    Politicians are still setting us back.

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas Год назад

      Cows are setting us back much worse

    • @mutantryeff
      @mutantryeff Год назад

      @@Loralanthalas No wonder so many liberals are addicted to opiates - their stupidity must really be painful.

    • @mutantryeff
      @mutantryeff Год назад

      @@Loralanthalas Can we just blame squirrels? I do believe most of our politicians are squirrel hybrids, but they just don't play in the road enough.

    • @mutantryeff
      @mutantryeff Год назад

      @@Loralanthalas Cows? Leave your mother out of this and have some respect for her.

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas Год назад

      @@mutantryeff I will 100% go with that. If they could be bothered to focus they may bother to actually read the laws their lobbies have written for them.

  • @LeanAndMean44
    @LeanAndMean44 Год назад

    Thanks for this video. It shows that we shouldn’t always embrace change before the evidence about what an innovation does is known. Not everything which is new is good.

  • @fredblonder7850
    @fredblonder7850 Год назад +3

    In the 1930s, my Mom took arsenic pills prescribed by her doctor, for eight years. It doesn’t seem to have had any effect.

    • @email5023
      @email5023 Год назад

      *didn't

    • @fredblonder7850
      @fredblonder7850 Год назад +2

      @@email5023 Unless you think it killed her, in which case it took 70 years.

    • @josephteller9715
      @josephteller9715 Год назад

      What was she prescribed it for? Was it in combination of some other items? Was this in a Western Country?

    • @fredblonder7850
      @fredblonder7850 Год назад

      @@josephteller9715 Milroy’s Disease. Not that I am aware of. New York City.

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Год назад

      @@fredblonder7850 re didn't/doesn't,
      didn't for past
      doesn't for present
      So if you're saying that looking at her now/present day, she seems to be fine, then "doesn't" is correct. If she is dead/you are referring to any possible impacts in the past, but excluding today for whatever reason, then "didn't" is correct. I'm not sure which one applies here, only you know that