***Correction*** when I said the z6 III would focus similarly to the "Zfc"...what I really meant...is it will focus similarly to the full frame ZF. Too many names, I confused myself with Sony a7C II and CR as those are both full frame.
The Unforgivable Faux Pas of Jared Polin: The Z6 III Fiasco In the grand, illustrious history of photographic commentary, a dark cloud has recently overshadowed the community, casting a pall over the otherwise unblemished landscape. This cloud, dear readers, is none other than the scandalous, egregious, and utterly inexcusable error made by the famed Jared Polin of FroKnowsPhoto. This is a tale of confusion, cameras, and calamity. It all began on a day much like any other, with the sun shining and birds chirping, blissfully unaware of the catastrophe about to unfold. Jared Polin, a name synonymous with photographic wisdom and the sagely guidance of a modern-day Oracle of Delphi, committed an error so monumental, it shook the foundations of the photography world. During a discussion about the rumored Z6 III, Polin, in a moment of human frailty that we can only presume was caused by an alignment of the planets or perhaps a mischievous sprite in his camera bag, misspoke. He claimed, and I shudder to even write this, that the Z6 III would focus similarly to the "Zfc," when, in fact, he meant to say the full-frame ZF. The horror! The betrayal! The absolute chaos unleashed by this slip of the tongue! It’s as if Ansel Adams had confessed he preferred to shoot with a disposable camera, or if Henri Cartier-Bresson had admitted he didn't really understand what the "decisive moment" was. The community reeled. How could Polin, our North Star in the camera gear galaxy, the beacon of truth in a sea of megapixels and dynamic ranges, err so grievously? This was no mere slip; this was a slip on a banana peel, down a flight of stairs, into a pie factory. It was akin to mixing up Monet with Manet, Bach with Beethoven, or - dare I say - Nikon with Canon. But in a twist worthy of a Greek tragedy, Polin attempted to correct himself in the comments. Oh, the naivety! As if a mere correction could mend the fabric of reality torn asunder by such a blunder. The audacity to think that a few keystrokes could undo the unraveling of the very threads of photographic knowledge! It was as if he tried to patch a gaping hole in the Sistine Chapel's ceiling with a piece of duct tape. The deed was done, the words were spoken, and the echoes of this calamitous error would reverberate through the annals of camera history forever.
@@yihan4835 the system is the same - in terms of the UI, subject detections etc. They use the same new processor too - the difference is the Z8/Z9 use a fast reading stacked sensor (quicker AF calculations), while the ZF uses the older (slower) sensor from the Z6II.
@@nightowlnzab How much real world difference this is going to make do you know? Are there situations when Z8/Z9 is clearly better than the ZF in terms of AF?
The Z7 line has a big following among people who want medium format stills quality in a smaller and cheaper package than the Z8, especially landscape shooters who have to carry their gear long distances. The “slow” 10 fps would’ve been considered cutting edge performance only a few years ago, so you’re not even giving up that much in terms of real world use. Given most of us are not shooting the Olympics, I don’t really understand the fetish for ever more speed.
I would like to see 33mpx z6III and 60mpx z7III...with bsi sensor and z8 AF...with prices of 2500$ or 3500$...that will give z6III little more resolution and cropping ability, and z7III will be awesome for landscape, etc...and they will not get in z8 teritory with stacked sensor, faster buffer, and better ergonomic... :)
The issue with the Z cameras below the Z8 does not lie with the frames per seconds they can shoot but how you can shoot. If you want them to shoot at full speed the EVF will show every single frame shot thus blocking the actual view on the subject with a slide show at the max shooting speed. This effectively makes them useless for shooting action.
meh will never understand that excuse. Done landscape with D850 since it came out, and now do landscape with the z8, while carrying on my backpack the 24-120, the 14-30 and the 100-400 which I sometimes swap for the 105 MC on the backpack, plus a tripod, my water bottle and a powerbank and my cleaning kit. Gear is still a lot lighter nowadays than it was back then so I dont really feel this is heavy to carry on your back at all. But i guess theres people out there that wanna do landscape with a Zf body or whatever
huh? thats why neither the z6ii and especially the z7ii were never marketed as action cameras. Especially the z7ii being a well known stills/landscape camera @@phelanwolf6747
I work in retail, another reason a lot of Canon shooters don't like about the RF 70-200mm F2.8 is that it doesn't support using teleconverters. A couple of times, I was about to sell a TC, I asked the customer what lens are they using it with, and they said the RF 70-200mm F2.8, they were super disappointed/annoyed when I gave them the bad news
3:00 Fro, you said the Z 6III AF should match the Z fc and that it is better than Z 6II. I believe you meant the Z f because that is way better using the Z8/Z9 processor.
Well anything is better than Canon rf crop lenses. The 10 to 18 will be decent but otherwise it's the worst amount on the market in terms of offerings.
@@philfyphilDoesn’t excuse canon for not filling up the midrange like Nikon did. To get the same quality as a Nikon 50 1.8S on canon you need to pay $2000. And no, the RF50 1.8 isn’t in the same galaxy
Nikon raw weak processing on Lightroom. I'm facing this colour issue with the D750 and Z5. Nikon must work for that. overall best camera for portrait Photography.
As a sport shooter with canon I am one of the holdouts that didnt buy the rf70-200 after moving to the R system with my setups. Only 1 of my fellow canon shooters in my industry has and she isnot exactly fond of it either. I will run my MKIII adapted til they release a internal focusing version. Extending lenses are hard to use in my specific industry as gear gets bumped all the time. I dont want to have to worry about a very expensive lens breaking because it got bumped. Also the vacuum thats created as you extend the lens is also a worry as those gaskets will need to be replaced constantly and as they break down more dust and moisture will get into the lens. With that said I am very happy Canon is finally listening to us as we are more than ready to purchase the all internal focusing version. Hoping they follow sony in making it lighter as well.
Don't want any more 25 megapixel cameras. If I'm going to have a big expensive full frame sensor, I want at least 32 megapixels so I can zoom in to the most beautiful details and used it images extra large for my layouts. My old 5D3 had 22 megapixel. Nearly a decade later two more megapixel is not helping anything and it makes the camera feel like you just haven't gone far enough past AF.
@@AndiGomez-yu2dx here's why your answer doesn't make sense. One, my m62 has 32 megapixels. That's a crop camera. Two, you said it yourself. Most people. Most people doesn't mean anything. Your needs are what your needs are, anyone who says most people certainly don't have a clue what most people need. It's an easy way to just generalize information you don't know but you feel should be true..but it worthless, It's not data, that's just a lazy feeling or opinion. Three, which should be obvious, there are plenty of full-frame cameras that have more than 24 megapixels. At this point 24 megapixels is the bottom barrel for what full frame should be offering. Yes a camera and a sensor is more than that megapixels especially when you start thinking about Fuji sensors etc. But as far as Nikon and Canon goes anyway this is what they're selling as the generic entry point for full frame cameras. Lastly, just having the extra breathing room for those of us who use pixels directly for spreads layouts and designs, having that +900 megapixels worth of horizontal space is a big deal. Don't know what I'm talking about, 24 megapixel sensor is 6,000 pixels wide. A 32 is about 6900 pixels wide. It may not mean anything to you, but again when you're putting large images into large graphic design spreads, the actual pixel length matters. So again no offense but I see this most people comment all the time and it's always nonsense. Most people will use it because it's the least common denominator MP size for what vendors are selling. If vendors were selling 32 MP as the least common denominator, then 32 would be your answer.
@@AndiGomez-yu2dx Thank you, but I made my choice with a Black Friday R5. 😂 Now I have to figure out what to do with this R6. It's fine for most uses, but if I'm doing portraits it'll be the R5 all the way. Honestly I just need to get rid of it
Jared. It's good to see you "back at the ranch" with all your limbs. I guess wild things in Africa didn't get to you. Great video Thanks for all you do for us .
I think the Z7 line is not yet done - I could see them doing a Z7 III with a 60MP sensor but maybe the Expeed 6 design (so really just a resolution bump basically but no real speed increase, as that's what the Z8 is for -- both speed a resolution; wouldn't make sense to make higher-res camera that's just as fast as the Z8). So my guess is we will at least see a Z7 III but it will be priced at $3000-$3300 but only incraese the resolution to 60MP and perhaps have a crop for 8k video (or just be limited to something like 8k30). But the rumored specs for the Z6 III are about what I expected -- basically similar to the Zf, but perhaps a newer sensor but still around 24MP and improved AF, but otherwise retaining most of the other stuff the Z6 II has (CFE+SD card slots, overall shape/size, etc). I do have to agree on the Zf/Zfc ergonomics. I just picked up a second hand Z6 II for cheap (well $1100 in "good" condition) and would have spend the extra $900 on a Zf if the ergonomics was better, but even with the grip, it's not. (I should mention I have the Z8 so I don't really miss much by NOT getting a Z6 III --when it arrives-- or Zf). I mainly just wanted a low-light camera and really, $1100 for a used Z6 II wasn't bad. But I won't be buying a Zf, Z6 III or Z7 III myself as i don't need those having the Z8 and now a Z6 II (and a Z7 II). In fact, just took the Z6 II on a weeklong trip to FL for travel and works great. No missed shots (I wasn't shooting anything that required super fast AF but was able to work quickly and get a sharp shot each time - no missed focus, etc). So for the money, the Z6 II is still good, and the Z6 III should be better (but probably only a smidge better than the Zf in reality probably).
the Z7 III I believe is in the making with a high res sensor (Nikon 3 years later than Sony??) - What it should have been the line 800, 810 and 850 (the high res line in short) is now been transferred to the 7. In short Thursday is the new Friday at Nikon as well...
I doubt we're done with the Z7 ii, it fits a great middle ground in Nikon's lineup as a Higher mp camera in a medium form body, I imagine that releasing a version iii just doesn't make much sense right now. Z6iii on the other hand, at 24mp, if the I/O is done well, has unlimited record limit and RAW video output, could be a cheaper, slower alternative to the R3. Though would be directly competing with the A7iv.
That 70-150 f/2 is gonna be a beast for sure. I consider my Tamron 35-150 a fantastic lens, but I can imagine that a prime is not required when you get all at f/2, from 28, all the way to 150 at f2? Gotta sell organs to afford both tho.
im very happy to hear this news as well because I dont want to ever get another Tamron again and happy canon is essentially stealing their best selling lenses. Dont like tamron because in the US their support and repair services are absolutely atrocious for a pro shooter.
@@TigaWould 150-200 f/1.8 seems a lot optimistic tbh! It'd probably weigh 3KGs and cost a fortune. But yes, 150-200 f/2 might me manageable; still expensive tho. That said, I am an enthusiast photographer. I don't think I'd ever want to spend that much on lenses. I had considered R6 II over my A7IV, but then Canon's glass (although very good) is inexplicably expensive for me. I certainly can do well with heterogeneous lenses. I have lenses from 17mm-150mm all f/2.8 or wider and it cost (only) $4,800 here in Canada, and it includes a 85mm prime. I can see the price of 28-70 & 70-150 going well over $11,000 here. So again, great lens, but not for me and others like me.
@@PolPhotographs Oh that's sad to know. Fortunately, I have not had any such issues till now. I mean it could be about the money you pay; Tamron lenses are at least half the price of Sony and the output is very sharp and crisp. I got the 17-28 and 35-150, both produce amazing pictures. I think the cost cutting is going into customer service, but I am unaware. Anyhow, I'd be all in for Sony's lenses if I were a pro. I feel from a longevity standpoint, Sony's glass stands out. Sometimes in autofocus too. Moreover, Sony artificially reduces FPS on third party glass, which might be a deal breaker for some pros.
@@TigaWould I will say the newer lenses really dont miss much but the quality control could be better as well as the durability. Thats where tamron especially sucks. I have had zero issues with my sigma art glass tho, every bit as good as my L glass, unfortunately Sigma doesnt make glass for canon due to the blockade. Also I know Sigma in general usually uses the same amount of linear motors on their AF systems vs, tamron which seems to use 1 less or half. Also I due notice if you update firmware for the sigmas and tamrons it deals with any focusing issues etc.
@@TigaWould I second ^this. I don't see any AF issues on either of my Tamron lenses. Not even any back or front focusing issues, if the box is on the eye, the eye is always sharp. I'd also suggest updating the firmware. Moreover, I am using these with A7 IV, which is probably Sony's second best AF now, you might have some issues with older Sony models. I believe the AF differences will be even smaller with the new AI AF system. Also, I agree that Sony, Sigma, and even Tamron's new AF tech (double/quad linear motor thing) are very close.
Nikon raw weak processing on Lightroom. I'm facing this colour issue with the D750 and Z5. Nikon must work for that. overall best camera for portrait Photography.
Eh, I got tired of waiting for the Z6iii or similar with the higher tier focusing systems and decided to pick up an OM-1 instead. I can't believe MFT is so underrated. OM-1 flagship easily competing with the Z8/Z9/A1 for way less and don't even get me started on the lenses...
Pls Nikon! Just make the Z6ii7iii focusing system like the Zf or Z8 and we will all be happy..im happy with my current z6ii/7ii line up just make the focusing system at least near the Z8🙏🙏🙏
The photos from Nikon cameras are truly fantastic. However, individuals like Jared and other RUclipsrs consistently criticize Nikon. The idea that you need superior technology to improve your pictures is utterly ridiculous. From my perspective, Nikon has remained true to its roots by delivering cameras that produce exceptional images, implementing sufficient upgrades to meet the needs of their user base.
So I financed my canon EOS R.... 3 years ago and finally got it payed off recently.. I don't really have a lot of money to upgrade as I keep savoring over the R5. But any pointers and tips you have to maximize my "R" ? Thanks in advance
Heck. If you like or let me. I'll fly out there and bring my gear with me 😂 and maybe get a tour of the studio. Unless you want to fly to Vegas where I'm at and I'll take you off-road into remote areas to take pics. Lol
Jared, you said you bought a couple of Nikon z mount lenses just in case one day you decide to go back to the brand, but also added that you don't think it will ever happen. I've tried the 24-70mm 2.8 and it is a stellar zoom. The AF issues have also been fixed and now there are cameras like the Z8 & 9. Do you still think Canon is a step ahead in terms of glass and AF or is it just that there are other reasons that stop you from getting closer to Nikon? Just curious. And thanks for your work.
The current Z6ii is Nikon's best selling full frame pro camera based on cost and 24mp is good enough for most shooters. The Z6iii will likely have the Expeed 7 which is said to be considering faster than the dual processors in z6ii current camera. Fully articulating screen will make this new camera popular for vloggers and content creators and some pro videographers. The AF of the VF is much more reliable than the current Z6ii for tracking subjects. Slightly bigger camera with better ergonomics. All this will make this camera the most popular pro camera from Nikon based on most pros needs, a good hybrid photo video camera, and less expensive than Z8, unless the pro wants 45mp then they'll get a Z8 (which there are less pros who need it).
@@nickwilliams7867 Some of the Nikon reps told me professional videographers who are not content creators prefer the tilt up and down screen instead of the flip sideways and rotate screen to front, so it is hard to say which way they will go. Maybe a double-jointed screen like in the Z8/Z9 which tilts up and down and also left or right but cannot face fully front. Who knows, depends on where Nikons sees the biggest market of this camera and most users needs.
With a decent processor and programming - the stacked sensor's ability to read out faster has a knock-on effect. Data passes from the sensor to the focussing system quicker (and more frequently), so it can make AF decisions quicker.
RE: Z7 iii - As I pointed out before Nikon has 3 45 megapixel cameras but NO truly high megapixel one. Look for Nikon to do a A7R move and upgrade the sensor to 60 megapixels or more.
I think there is room for $£€3K high res Z7 with sub Z8 speeds and a high res sensor, but many pros would be upsold to a Z8 the price being close, I think the 24MP choice for Z6III of sensor is Nikon doing Apple style product specification, engineered to push the higher numerical brands. Same with the Z7 family, it will miss some want, but not need right now performance specification, that will have pro buyers surfing up to the Z8/9 family for those "just in case" shooting scenarios.
Maybe the z7 3 will be there. High speed camera is talking about instead of the V8 or z9 version? Then again they make just get rid of it and try to replace it with a mirrorless d500 version.
I never got my T-shirt. I ordered like a month ago and I don’t know what’s going on but now I’m afraid to order any of your shirts. I don’t know if I’m gonna get it in the mail, so I think my business might be going all the way I was really loving your T-shirts up in your RUclips channel but you guys just I don’t even know you guys need to fix your guys a T-shirt lineup or something because I feel scammed but I feel like PS.
I hope they keep the Z7 series and make the next one small and light like the Sony A7C line. I'm close to switching to Nikon to get the 14-30mm and 24-200mm to lighten my set up, but if they kill the Z7 I'll have nowhere to go that's lightweight but still high resolution (the Z7ii doesn't have a flippy screen and I'm tired of not having one of those, so it's out).
To differentiate the z63 from the ZF, I think it should have a 33 megapixel sensor. They could up the price of it and place it between the z8 and the ZF in price and in specs. Z5ii would then have its own niche spot as the 24 megapixel full frame Z camera. Makes sense to me but maybe not Nikon 🤷🏻♂️
z6iii is mostly the ZF in AF performance, but without top dials I don't need or want, and will include top LCD, plus better grip ergonomics, 2 card slots for CFexpress B and SD, and a bit bigger body with fully vari angle screen, priced at $2500 to $3000 for body and likely 20 fps for action / sports shooters (maybe 30fps in bursts at lower res). Great tool for video and photo hybrid.
@@adrianvanleeuwen so pretty much the ZF in the z6 body. Zf reskinned. But I'm not sure what merits the $500 price increase if you're just getting the ZF advancements
@@lsaideOK A newer sensor with faster readout to support 4k60 FF and faster AF performance. The body itself being more comfortable, capable, and more of a workhorse is what the Z6III will be over the Zf.
Between z6iii and z8 theres got to be something in the middle eventually. A competitor for what A7Iv is in Sony. 24,5 mpx wont do It for some...Im still waiting for the real substitute of what the D750 was on its day to the Nikon lineup. Z6 Falls short, Z8 is too much.
I'm a big fan Jared, but still waiting for a public apology for calling all delivery drivers failures in life after one FedEx driver screwed up. Lots of us provide a great life for our families and make a great living.
I think the Z7 line is still a goer for Nikon as I have bought that camera and for upgrade would have an extremely hard time emotionally going to a Z8 or Z6(III) as a replacement. Thing is, you get very attached to your camera and it can be really, really hard to change. Not everybody is a “gear slut” and I think Nikon knows this, being a conservative Corporation. I mean, I still feel heavily “compromised” from going Nikon F mount to mounting Z!! Cheers
Just because you have some weird romance with your Z7 doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t feel weirdly attached to their camera is a “gear slut”. Cameras are tools, not something to get sentimentally attached to.
Kinda slow rollout of lenses from canon. These more "experimental" lenses are great but I want them to focus more on filling the gaps in the RF lineup. Some more mid price range primes, maybe 35/50/85mm 1.4, 1.8 that have L quality that are lighter than the 1.2 glass and better than the super budget options. Also faster wildlife zooms. Dont get me wrong, we have lenses for pretty much all types of shooters now but there certainly are still gaps.
Knowing Nikon, they are certainly going to bungle the Z6 III. My guess is that the rumor about the 24mp sensor is true, maybe it's even a stacked sensor. Problem is, the Z6 III will compete directly against the Sony A7 IV, and for most people, 33mp vs 24mp is a much stronger selling point than 24mp stacked vs 24mp non-stacked. This is especially true if there's actually going to be a Z5 II, which is a bigger and bigger if imho. Z5 II would also require massively improved AF and a BSI sensor, or nobody would buy it. But if the Z5 II has adequate AF (i.e. much better than Z6 II, Z7 II), then the Z6 III would need more than a stacked sensor to set it apart, or Nikon couldn't justify its price tag of ~$2.500 next to the Z5 II. So my prediction is that Nikon will cancel the Z5 line, as well as the Z7 line. Or maybe, just maybe, Nikon is smart enough to give the Z6 III a 33mp (non-stacked) sensor. I doubt it though.
A 70-150 f2 would be another unicorn. A lot of people don't realize that f2 is twice as much light as f2.8. F2 is why the 28-70 is a unicorn (besides beautiful rendering)
This RF 70-200 could be appealing to some enthusiasts who wanted to use a teleconverter (if supported). At the moment, there are no semi-affordable RF zoom lenses with acceptable image quality in conjunction with a teleconverter. Even the RF 100-500 is weird to use with one…
TBH I never owned one, and since I migrated to RF glass I have never thought about it (yet). As you mentioned, I probably would not be happy with a converter on a 70-200. Unfortunately, the other RF lens options are (way) too expensive right now. Personally, I would like to see a prime lens with a lower 4 digit price tag, like a 400 f4 or f5.6. I mostly carry the 70-200 f2.8 because the 100-500 is too slow in many cases (even outside in the shadows).
@@ajc4000 I rented the Z 1.4x for my Z 70-200 last year for a road trip out west and it was f'n awesome. I used it a lot. It was hard to buy for a year. I was heading out to a World Cup mountain biking even this year and finally was able to score one. I have a Tamron 100-400 but I'd rather use the Z 70-200/2.8 with the 1.4 which got me 280mm/F4 and results were awesome. I didn't use it all the time as I wanted 2.8 shots but I did use it a lot for when I needed extra reach. I rented a 2.0x for Christmas break just for shits and giggles to compare it to the Tamron.
@@froknowsphoto I just tested the Z 2.0x TC I rented on a Z70-200/2.8 and compared it to a Tamron (F-mount) 100-400mm. The 70-200mm + 2.0x TC @ 400mm outperformed the Tamron 100-400 @ F6.3 and F8 across the frame and even in the center...and this was on a 24mp Z6! I did a test shot with it on the ZFc and was still impressed how good it was. I didn't do it back to back with Tamron as ran out of light. I've used it on D7100 so I already know what it looks like on crop sensor and it's definitely not as good. The stabilization on the 70-200 @ 400mm was also orders of magnitude better than on the Tamron. Nikon's really doing some awesome work in the stabilization department. Gotta stop hating on modern mirrorless teleconverters man, especially the Z mount ones.
All what i would buy would be 35, 50 and 85 with f 1.4, the 1.2 are too heave for my taste and the 1.8 and f2 are not good enough for me. I hope the 200-500 are not too heavy.
What are your biggest issues with Nikon? I'm a Z8 portrait photographer and love my 85mm f/1.2 S, but I'm worried I should have done some more research..
@@JenHamon The majority of modern camera gear manufactured over the past decade offers more than sufficient capabilities for most individuals, if not all. There's a tendency for people to become overly absorbed in the latest camera bodies, playing into the marketing strategy of camera manufacturers who encourage consumers to constantly seek upgrades.
Nikon doesn't have an F/2 transtandard zoom, and Sony and Canon flagships have slightly better AF (but the difference there is imperceptible for most shooters). Personnally i shoot Nikon mainly because it is super cheap on the used market, and because i love their Z lens lineup (Especially the 1.8 S primes and the telephoto options). The Z mount also has the shortest flange distance and the widest mount of the market, so you can technically adapt absolutely any lens ever produced. Efficient E to Z AF adapters are already out there, and i expect we'll see RF to Z AF adapters sometime in the future. Switching for canon or sony would actually be a downgrade for you because canon's 85 1.2 is 600€ more expensive than nikon, and an R5 costs about the same as a Z8, while not being as good. And Sony would be cheaper than nikon, but they don't really have an equivalent to the Z8 (the A7RV costs the same, but is slower and higher res, with worse video, base iso and burst specs than the Z8), and their top of the line 85mm, while much cheaper than nikon's, is an F/1.4 and not 1.2, and probably not as good. But if you need 61MP (which most portrait shooters don't), it is probably a good choice.
Of course autofocus can be as good with a stacked sensor as with a nonstacked sensor. The stacked sensor means the data is saved in a buffer between sensor and CPU very fast, but every thing else is the same.
@@Lofote If stacked sensors readout speed is much faster than non-stacked, as is usually the case, then AF performance will be better. For example AF calculations done at 120 times per second rather than being done at much slower rates of 20 or perhaps 30 times a second. And to further compound that to avoid rolling shutter distortion on non-stacked sensors you would need to use mechanical shutter - and while shutter is closed there is no light on the sensor, so this further affects the AF performance on non-stacked sensors. Of course you have the same problem using mechanical on a stacked sensor - but usually you would only do that for other reasons e.g. artificial lighting, flash etc.
Jared would never shift to shoot with Nikon ...😅 Tony Northrup is saying he might shift to Nikon 😅 Canon is confused to launch a flagship Mirrorless yet... everytime Canon plans, Sony or Nikon bangs upon a better flagship model launch keeping Canon guessing 😅
I owned a Nikon 200-500mm F/5.6 external zoom for about two years now, great lens, but it made me realise that external zooms (especially big ones with a lot of internal volume) are dust vaccums, and most of them have horrible zoom throw. But if you don't go often in dusty environnements, or don't mind having to turn your zoom ring 3 times to go over the entire range, external zooms are good. Personnally, i will trade my 200-500mm for a 180-600 as soon as i find one used, and the only external zoom i will own in the future will be the 24-120 F4 Z
It would be a bit bigger than a 180-400 F/4, heavier and more expensive. So they will never make such a lens. A 70-150 F/2 would already be a very big and expensive lens (somewhere around 4-5k€ and 2-3 kg).
i rather have internet zooming like Sigma Sport 120-300mm nikon 200-500mm or original 70-200mm where lens does not zoom out. that for this reason when people see my lens at time do not notice the lens does not zoom out. it also help me when i have someone sitting next too. since will not know how close they are to me or they know if to close to me and might get hit by the lens when it zooms out.
Nikon 200-500 is an external zoom. I own one, and i feel the same as you about external zooming, but for different reasons (shitty zoom throw, stiff zoom rings, dust vaccuming), which is why i will switch for the 180-600 (internal zoom) in the near future
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***Correction*** when I said the z6 III would focus similarly to the "Zfc"...what I really meant...is it will focus similarly to the full frame ZF. Too many names, I confused myself with Sony a7C II and CR as those are both full frame.
The Unforgivable Faux Pas of Jared Polin: The Z6 III Fiasco
In the grand, illustrious history of photographic commentary, a dark cloud has recently overshadowed the community, casting a pall over the otherwise unblemished landscape. This cloud, dear readers, is none other than the scandalous, egregious, and utterly inexcusable error made by the famed Jared Polin of FroKnowsPhoto. This is a tale of confusion, cameras, and calamity.
It all began on a day much like any other, with the sun shining and birds chirping, blissfully unaware of the catastrophe about to unfold. Jared Polin, a name synonymous with photographic wisdom and the sagely guidance of a modern-day Oracle of Delphi, committed an error so monumental, it shook the foundations of the photography world. During a discussion about the rumored Z6 III, Polin, in a moment of human frailty that we can only presume was caused by an alignment of the planets or perhaps a mischievous sprite in his camera bag, misspoke.
He claimed, and I shudder to even write this, that the Z6 III would focus similarly to the "Zfc," when, in fact, he meant to say the full-frame ZF. The horror! The betrayal! The absolute chaos unleashed by this slip of the tongue! It’s as if Ansel Adams had confessed he preferred to shoot with a disposable camera, or if Henri Cartier-Bresson had admitted he didn't really understand what the "decisive moment" was.
The community reeled. How could Polin, our North Star in the camera gear galaxy, the beacon of truth in a sea of megapixels and dynamic ranges, err so grievously? This was no mere slip; this was a slip on a banana peel, down a flight of stairs, into a pie factory. It was akin to mixing up Monet with Manet, Bach with Beethoven, or - dare I say - Nikon with Canon.
But in a twist worthy of a Greek tragedy, Polin attempted to correct himself in the comments. Oh, the naivety! As if a mere correction could mend the fabric of reality torn asunder by such a blunder. The audacity to think that a few keystrokes could undo the unraveling of the very threads of photographic knowledge! It was as if he tried to patch a gaping hole in the Sistine Chapel's ceiling with a piece of duct tape. The deed was done, the words were spoken, and the echoes of this calamitous error would reverberate through the annals of camera history forever.
I have never used either ZF or Z8 but from my understanding, isn't the focusing system of ZF similar to the Z8?
@@yihan4835 the system is the same - in terms of the UI, subject detections etc. They use the same new processor too - the difference is the Z8/Z9 use a fast reading stacked sensor (quicker AF calculations), while the ZF uses the older (slower) sensor from the Z6II.
@@nightowlnzab How much real world difference this is going to make do you know? Are there situations when Z8/Z9 is clearly better than the ZF in terms of AF?
confusion is my epitaph
The Z7 line has a big following among people who want medium format stills quality in a smaller and cheaper package than the Z8, especially landscape shooters who have to carry their gear long distances. The “slow” 10 fps would’ve been considered cutting edge performance only a few years ago, so you’re not even giving up that much in terms of real world use. Given most of us are not shooting the Olympics, I don’t really understand the fetish for ever more speed.
I would like to see 33mpx z6III and 60mpx z7III...with bsi sensor and z8 AF...with prices of 2500$ or 3500$...that will give z6III little more resolution and cropping ability, and z7III will be awesome for landscape, etc...and they will not get in z8 teritory with stacked sensor, faster buffer, and better ergonomic... :)
The issue with the Z cameras below the Z8 does not lie with the frames per seconds they can shoot but how you can shoot. If you want them to shoot at full speed the EVF will show every single frame shot thus blocking the actual view on the subject with a slide show at the max shooting speed. This effectively makes them useless for shooting action.
meh will never understand that excuse. Done landscape with D850 since it came out, and now do landscape with the z8, while carrying on my backpack the 24-120, the 14-30 and the 100-400 which I sometimes swap for the 105 MC on the backpack, plus a tripod, my water bottle and a powerbank and my cleaning kit. Gear is still a lot lighter nowadays than it was back then so I dont really feel this is heavy to carry on your back at all. But i guess theres people out there that wanna do landscape with a Zf body or whatever
huh? thats why neither the z6ii and especially the z7ii were never marketed as action cameras. Especially the z7ii being a well known stills/landscape camera @@phelanwolf6747
Sony knows that and they have the A7CR and A7RV with 61mp sensor damn。
I work in retail, another reason a lot of Canon shooters don't like about the RF 70-200mm F2.8 is that it doesn't support using teleconverters. A couple of times, I was about to sell a TC, I asked the customer what lens are they using it with, and they said the RF 70-200mm F2.8, they were super disappointed/annoyed when I gave them the bad news
Thank you for all the news in 2023. It does not go unappreciated.
3:00 Fro, you said the Z 6III AF should match the Z fc and that it is better than Z 6II. I believe you meant the Z f because that is way better using the Z8/Z9 processor.
Which is the full frame one, zf or zfc....if it's the ZF I said it wrong for sure.
@@froknowsphoto Zfc, c for crop sensor!
The Z f is the full frame model@@froknowsphoto.
Thanks for a great year of photo news...happy new year and looking forward to more photo news in 2024. See ya!!!
I love my r10 but .. lens life is better with nikon
Well anything is better than Canon rf crop lenses.
The 10 to 18 will be decent but otherwise it's the worst amount on the market in terms of offerings.
@@simonmaduxx6777 I don’t know for rfs lens becuase I use fullframe lens
@@simonmaduxx6777 If you can’t take decent photos with Canon’s lens offerings then you may as well give up and collect stationary instead.
@@philfyphilDoesn’t excuse canon for not filling up the midrange like Nikon did. To get the same quality as a Nikon 50 1.8S on canon you need to pay $2000. And no, the RF50 1.8 isn’t in the same galaxy
Nikon raw weak processing on Lightroom. I'm facing this colour issue with the D750 and Z5. Nikon must work for that. overall best camera for portrait Photography.
Love the channel. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Thanks Jared, have a great Christmas and happy new year.
Looking forward to the first 2024 news fix ... and a final announcement of the EOS R5 Mark II
I love how he says the 70 - 200 doesn't make sense and then goes on to explain why the current 70 - 200 isn't to his liking.
Thank you for all the entertaining news and camera content! Have a happy holidays and new year.
Damn 10-24, 28-70 f2, 70-150 f2 and the 120-300 2.8 would be a pretty sweet set up to have .
100-300is what canon makes. the 120-300mm is a sigma lens.
@@rollandelliott Nikon makes a 120-300 but it's an F-mount. I'd like to see it in a Z mount.
Every Christmas I watch South park's 1st Christmas special it's tradition, heidy hoooo!!!
Sounds like my Peanuts A Charlie Brown Christmas from a generations before that.
Heck yeah for that RF 70-150 F/2L. Who’s in?
I'd be interested!
That beginning, love it, Cartman, so funny. Canon RF glass is going to be the death of me yet🤪👍
Another good news and update Jared.
As a sport shooter with canon I am one of the holdouts that didnt buy the rf70-200 after moving to the R system with my setups. Only 1 of my fellow canon shooters in my industry has and she isnot exactly fond of it either. I will run my MKIII adapted til they release a internal focusing version. Extending lenses are hard to use in my specific industry as gear gets bumped all the time. I dont want to have to worry about a very expensive lens breaking because it got bumped. Also the vacuum thats created as you extend the lens is also a worry as those gaskets will need to be replaced constantly and as they break down more dust and moisture will get into the lens. With that said I am very happy Canon is finally listening to us as we are more than ready to purchase the all internal focusing version. Hoping they follow sony in making it lighter as well.
Canon news starts at 3:25
Nikon news starts at 1:32
Thanks :)
Happy New Year, Jared!
Thanks for another year of honest reviews and tips. Great work team FRO.
Don't want any more 25 megapixel cameras. If I'm going to have a big expensive full frame sensor, I want at least 32 megapixels so I can zoom in to the most beautiful details and used it images extra large for my layouts.
My old 5D3 had 22 megapixel. Nearly a decade later two more megapixel is not helping anything and it makes the camera feel like you just haven't gone far enough past AF.
then maybe you should consider buying a medium format. 25 megapixels are more than enough for the majority of people.
@@AndiGomez-yu2dx here's why your answer doesn't make sense.
One, my m62 has 32 megapixels. That's a crop camera.
Two, you said it yourself. Most people. Most people doesn't mean anything. Your needs are what your needs are, anyone who says most people certainly don't have a clue what most people need. It's an easy way to just generalize information you don't know but you feel should be true..but it worthless, It's not data, that's just a lazy feeling or opinion.
Three, which should be obvious, there are plenty of full-frame cameras that have more than 24 megapixels. At this point 24 megapixels is the bottom barrel for what full frame should be offering. Yes a camera and a sensor is more than that megapixels especially when you start thinking about Fuji sensors etc. But as far as Nikon and Canon goes anyway this is what they're selling as the generic entry point for full frame cameras.
Lastly, just having the extra breathing room for those of us who use pixels directly for spreads layouts and designs, having that +900 megapixels worth of horizontal space is a big deal. Don't know what I'm talking about, 24 megapixel sensor is 6,000 pixels wide. A 32 is about 6900 pixels wide. It may not mean anything to you, but again when you're putting large images into large graphic design spreads, the actual pixel length matters.
So again no offense but I see this most people comment all the time and it's always nonsense. Most people will use it because it's the least common denominator MP size for what vendors are selling. If vendors were selling 32 MP as the least common denominator, then 32 would be your answer.
@@simonmaduxx6777 I'll keep this short. Your chocie is the Nikon Z8 with 46 megapixels.
@@AndiGomez-yu2dx Thank you, but I made my choice with a Black Friday R5. 😂
Now I have to figure out what to do with this R6. It's fine for most uses, but if I'm doing portraits it'll be the R5 all the way. Honestly I just need to get rid of it
@@simonmaduxx6777 You can donate it to me of you like 😂😂
The R5 is a very nice camera, so congrats on that.
Jared, can you please tell me what fps you shoot your RUclips videos in?
Just found a beauty of a Nikon FM2 out of Japan. Nice to be on film again.
Jared. It's good to see you "back at the ranch" with all your limbs. I guess wild things in Africa didn't get to you. Great video Thanks for all you do for us .
Happy New Year !🎉see you next year
Happy holidays, Jared! See ya next year!
The Spaceballs b-roll was brilliant
I think the Z7 line is not yet done - I could see them doing a Z7 III with a 60MP sensor but maybe the Expeed 6 design (so really just a resolution bump basically but no real speed increase, as that's what the Z8 is for -- both speed a resolution; wouldn't make sense to make higher-res camera that's just as fast as the Z8). So my guess is we will at least see a Z7 III but it will be priced at $3000-$3300 but only incraese the resolution to 60MP and perhaps have a crop for 8k video (or just be limited to something like 8k30). But the rumored specs for the Z6 III are about what I expected -- basically similar to the Zf, but perhaps a newer sensor but still around 24MP and improved AF, but otherwise retaining most of the other stuff the Z6 II has (CFE+SD card slots, overall shape/size, etc).
I do have to agree on the Zf/Zfc ergonomics. I just picked up a second hand Z6 II for cheap (well $1100 in "good" condition) and would have spend the extra $900 on a Zf if the ergonomics was better, but even with the grip, it's not. (I should mention I have the Z8 so I don't really miss much by NOT getting a Z6 III --when it arrives-- or Zf). I mainly just wanted a low-light camera and really, $1100 for a used Z6 II wasn't bad. But I won't be buying a Zf, Z6 III or Z7 III myself as i don't need those having the Z8 and now a Z6 II (and a Z7 II). In fact, just took the Z6 II on a weeklong trip to FL for travel and works great. No missed shots (I wasn't shooting anything that required super fast AF but was able to work quickly and get a sharp shot each time - no missed focus, etc). So for the money, the Z6 II is still good, and the Z6 III should be better (but probably only a smidge better than the Zf in reality probably).
the Z7 III I believe is in the making with a high res sensor (Nikon 3 years later than Sony??) - What it should have been the line 800, 810 and 850 (the high res line in short) is now been transferred to the 7. In short Thursday is the new Friday at Nikon as well...
Happy holidays Jared!
I doubt we're done with the Z7 ii, it fits a great middle ground in Nikon's lineup as a Higher mp camera in a medium form body, I imagine that releasing a version iii just doesn't make much sense right now. Z6iii on the other hand, at 24mp, if the I/O is done well, has unlimited record limit and RAW video output, could be a cheaper, slower alternative to the R3. Though would be directly competing with the A7iv.
At the 2:10 mark in this one, you are SPOT ON... The ZF does feel like that..... For that, you get a bucket of Happy Holiday Wishes.
That 70-150 f/2 is gonna be a beast for sure. I consider my Tamron 35-150 a fantastic lens, but I can imagine that a prime is not required when you get all at f/2, from 28, all the way to 150 at f2? Gotta sell organs to afford both tho.
im very happy to hear this news as well because I dont want to ever get another Tamron again and happy canon is essentially stealing their best selling lenses. Dont like tamron because in the US their support and repair services are absolutely atrocious for a pro shooter.
@@TigaWould 150-200 f/1.8 seems a lot optimistic tbh! It'd probably weigh 3KGs and cost a fortune. But yes, 150-200 f/2 might me manageable; still expensive tho.
That said, I am an enthusiast photographer. I don't think I'd ever want to spend that much on lenses. I had considered R6 II over my A7IV, but then Canon's glass (although very good) is inexplicably expensive for me. I certainly can do well with heterogeneous lenses. I have lenses from 17mm-150mm all f/2.8 or wider and it cost (only) $4,800 here in Canada, and it includes a 85mm prime. I can see the price of 28-70 & 70-150 going well over $11,000 here. So again, great lens, but not for me and others like me.
@@PolPhotographs Oh that's sad to know. Fortunately, I have not had any such issues till now. I mean it could be about the money you pay; Tamron lenses are at least half the price of Sony and the output is very sharp and crisp. I got the 17-28 and 35-150, both produce amazing pictures. I think the cost cutting is going into customer service, but I am unaware.
Anyhow, I'd be all in for Sony's lenses if I were a pro. I feel from a longevity standpoint, Sony's glass stands out. Sometimes in autofocus too. Moreover, Sony artificially reduces FPS on third party glass, which might be a deal breaker for some pros.
@@TigaWould I will say the newer lenses really dont miss much but the quality control could be better as well as the durability. Thats where tamron especially sucks. I have had zero issues with my sigma art glass tho, every bit as good as my L glass, unfortunately Sigma doesnt make glass for canon due to the blockade. Also I know Sigma in general usually uses the same amount of linear motors on their AF systems vs, tamron which seems to use 1 less or half. Also I due notice if you update firmware for the sigmas and tamrons it deals with any focusing issues etc.
@@TigaWould I second ^this. I don't see any AF issues on either of my Tamron lenses. Not even any back or front focusing issues, if the box is on the eye, the eye is always sharp. I'd also suggest updating the firmware. Moreover, I am using these with A7 IV, which is probably Sony's second best AF now, you might have some issues with older Sony models. I believe the AF differences will be even smaller with the new AI AF system.
Also, I agree that Sony, Sigma, and even Tamron's new AF tech (double/quad linear motor thing) are very close.
So let’s assume the Z6 iii specs are correct. What’s your prediction on price ?
Happy New Year Fro!
Nikon raw weak processing on Lightroom. I'm facing this colour issue with the D750 and Z5. Nikon must work for that. overall best camera for portrait Photography.
Eh, I got tired of waiting for the Z6iii or similar with the higher tier focusing systems and decided to pick up an OM-1 instead. I can't believe MFT is so underrated. OM-1 flagship easily competing with the Z8/Z9/A1 for way less and don't even get me started on the lenses...
Pls Nikon! Just make the Z6ii7iii focusing system like the Zf or Z8 and we will all be happy..im happy with my current z6ii/7ii line up just make the focusing system at least near the Z8🙏🙏🙏
Still love my Z8, glad I stuck it out with Nikon!
The photos from Nikon cameras are truly fantastic. However, individuals like Jared and other RUclipsrs consistently criticize Nikon. The idea that you need superior technology to improve your pictures is utterly ridiculous. From my perspective, Nikon has remained true to its roots by delivering cameras that produce exceptional images, implementing sufficient upgrades to meet the needs of their user base.
So I financed my canon EOS R.... 3 years ago and finally got it payed off recently.. I don't really have a lot of money to upgrade as I keep savoring over the R5. But any pointers and tips you have to maximize my "R" ? Thanks in advance
Heck. If you like or let me. I'll fly out there and bring my gear with me 😂 and maybe get a tour of the studio. Unless you want to fly to Vegas where I'm at and I'll take you off-road into remote areas to take pics. Lol
24mp is not enough .. With bigger monitor (4k) and cropping effect, 30mp+ is preferred ..
Jared, you said you bought a couple of Nikon z mount lenses just in case one day you decide to go back to the brand, but also added that you don't think it will ever happen. I've tried the 24-70mm 2.8 and it is a stellar zoom. The AF issues have also been fixed and now there are cameras like the Z8 & 9. Do you still think Canon is a step ahead in terms of glass and AF or is it just that there are other reasons that stop you from getting closer to Nikon? Just curious. And thanks for your work.
The current Z6ii is Nikon's best selling full frame pro camera based on cost and 24mp is good enough for most shooters. The Z6iii will likely have the Expeed 7 which is said to be considering faster than the dual processors in z6ii current camera. Fully articulating screen will make this new camera popular for vloggers and content creators and some pro videographers. The AF of the VF is much more reliable than the current Z6ii for tracking subjects. Slightly bigger camera with better ergonomics. All this will make this camera the most popular pro camera from Nikon based on most pros needs, a good hybrid photo video camera, and less expensive than Z8, unless the pro wants 45mp then they'll get a Z8 (which there are less pros who need it).
I hope if they do a flip screen it's more like Sony's A7RV and not the A7IV. I have one and hate that design as a photographer.
@@nickwilliams7867 Some of the Nikon reps told me professional videographers who are not content creators prefer the tilt up and down screen instead of the flip sideways and rotate screen to front, so it is hard to say which way they will go. Maybe a double-jointed screen like in the Z8/Z9 which tilts up and down and also left or right but cannot face fully front. Who knows, depends on where Nikons sees the biggest market of this camera and most users needs.
Happy Holiday and I hope your Hanukkah was a great family affair, may peace be with you and keep up your fantastic work
Have a safe Merry Christmas and Happy new Year, seeya 💪🤣
What about 35mm 1.2? Rf??. Or are you leaving something for early 2024?
Why would the stacked sensor be of relevance to the focusing system? Only the readout is faster with a stacked sensor I think?
With a decent processor and programming - the stacked sensor's ability to read out faster has a knock-on effect. Data passes from the sensor to the focussing system quicker (and more frequently), so it can make AF decisions quicker.
Exactly, the Z9/R3/A1 can perform 120 subject detection/ AF calculations per second. Non-stacked sensors would be limited by their readout speed.
Can you make I Shoot JPG/HEIF in that vintage yellow and red shirt?
RE: Z7 iii - As I pointed out before Nikon has 3 45 megapixel cameras but NO truly high megapixel one. Look for Nikon to do a A7R move and upgrade the sensor to 60 megapixels or more.
Jared you missed the CR3 canon rumor about the 35 mm f/1.2L set to drop1/2 of 2024 😊
I didn't miss it. I filmed the news before that went up.
@@froknowsphoto gotcha 👌🏻 👍🏽
Maybe the release day will be on the first day of the NAB 2024 in Vegas .
I hope you had a happy Chanukah! 🕎
I am not a fan of the external zoom on the rf 70-200mm. Even if it’s sharper I’ll keep my ef version3 for the time being.
I think there is room for $£€3K high res Z7 with sub Z8 speeds and a high res sensor, but many pros would be upsold to a Z8 the price being close, I think the 24MP choice for Z6III of sensor is Nikon doing Apple style product specification, engineered to push the higher numerical brands. Same with the Z7 family, it will miss some want, but not need right now performance specification, that will have pro buyers surfing up to the Z8/9 family for those "just in case" shooting scenarios.
pixel shift will produce a "100" MP Image , not bad , that's with 4X images and computational stitching , but what prevents 5X 6X etc ?
Damn it I just sold my last kidney for the 24-105 mm F2.8
Maybe the z7 3 will be there. High speed camera is talking about instead of the V8 or z9 version? Then again they make just get rid of it and try to replace it with a mirrorless d500 version.
Please share the detailed review sony A6700 APSC
A9iii review before xmas ?
I never got my T-shirt. I ordered like a month ago and I don’t know what’s going on but now I’m afraid to order any of your shirts. I don’t know if I’m gonna get it in the mail, so I think my business might be going all the way I was really loving your T-shirts up in your RUclips channel but you guys just I don’t even know you guys need to fix your guys a T-shirt lineup or something because I feel scammed but I feel like PS.
Hi can you email me so I can look into this? Support at froknowsphoto.com
Did you sell your Nikon 120-300 2.8?
never owned one.
I hope they keep the Z7 series and make the next one small and light like the Sony A7C line. I'm close to switching to Nikon to get the 14-30mm and 24-200mm to lighten my set up, but if they kill the Z7 I'll have nowhere to go that's lightweight but still high resolution (the Z7ii doesn't have a flippy screen and I'm tired of not having one of those, so it's out).
the A7C series put ff sensor in a apsc sized body everyone love it but Nikon just walk their own way and makes the z6iii even bigger😂
Great Video!
To differentiate the z63 from the ZF, I think it should have a 33 megapixel sensor. They could up the price of it and place it between the z8 and the ZF in price and in specs. Z5ii would then have its own niche spot as the 24 megapixel full frame Z camera. Makes sense to me but maybe not Nikon 🤷🏻♂️
Meh, doesn't need 33mp as much as it needs faster better sensor, and better video capability over Z6 II and ZF. Keep it a low light beast.
@@MTBD80 I don't see how a 24mp sensor or the video capability would be much different from the very new ZF. It would basically be a reskinned ZF.
z6iii is mostly the ZF in AF performance, but without top dials I don't need or want, and will include top LCD, plus better grip ergonomics, 2 card slots for CFexpress B and SD, and a bit bigger body with fully vari angle screen, priced at $2500 to $3000 for body and likely 20 fps for action / sports shooters (maybe 30fps in bursts at lower res). Great tool for video and photo hybrid.
@@adrianvanleeuwen so pretty much the ZF in the z6 body. Zf reskinned. But I'm not sure what merits the $500 price increase if you're just getting the ZF advancements
@@lsaideOK A newer sensor with faster readout to support 4k60 FF and faster AF performance. The body itself being more comfortable, capable, and more of a workhorse is what the Z6III will be over the Zf.
Thanks Jared
Between z6iii and z8 theres got to be something in the middle eventually. A competitor for what A7Iv is in Sony. 24,5 mpx wont do It for some...Im still waiting for the real substitute of what the D750 was on its day to the Nikon lineup. Z6 Falls short, Z8 is too much.
maybe that is z7iii you are waiting for .
I'm a big fan Jared, but still waiting for a public apology for calling all delivery drivers failures in life after one FedEx driver screwed up. Lots of us provide a great life for our families and make a great living.
I'm with Jared.. I most likely will never shoot Nikon again.
They're all the same.
They take fantastic images already, so i don't see what the issue is?
I think the Z7 line is still a goer for Nikon as I have bought that camera and for upgrade would have an extremely hard time emotionally going to a Z8 or Z6(III) as a replacement. Thing is, you get very attached to your camera and it can be really, really hard to change. Not everybody is a “gear slut” and I think Nikon knows this, being a conservative Corporation. I mean, I still feel heavily “compromised” from going Nikon F mount to mounting Z!! Cheers
Just because you have some weird romance with your Z7 doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t feel weirdly attached to their camera is a “gear slut”. Cameras are tools, not something to get sentimentally attached to.
@@AbdonPhirathonagree especially not electronics，always want new one if budgets allowed.
To me, the Z7 became COMPLETELY obsolete once I got my Z8. Never looked back lol
Cheers
C’mon guys, don’t you see the joke?? Cheers
I have just sold my magic Z7 and bought my last ever camera Z8 for AF on African Wild Life
When I saw the headline my first thought was R6 Mark 3, or R5 Mark 2 specs confirmed. 😂
the Nikon Rumours article from "this week" that you're referencing is 8 days old.
and? I am reporting on it this week since it came out after I recorded last weeks.
But the 28-70 f2 aint got 24mm which is the most common Magnification on any 24-70 , and very popular on 24-120 F4
It's actually a 25 or 26 mm, when compared to an RF 24-70 or 24-105, so it's not missing as much as people think.
Beautiful 👍👍👍📸👍🎥👍👍👍
Have a great Holiday
In my opinion the Z5 line is DONE instead of the Z7 and Z6s will be the next entry level FF body line-ups.
Kinda slow rollout of lenses from canon. These more "experimental" lenses are great but I want them to focus more on filling the gaps in the RF lineup. Some more mid price range primes, maybe 35/50/85mm 1.4, 1.8 that have L quality that are lighter than the 1.2 glass and better than the super budget options. Also faster wildlife zooms. Dont get me wrong, we have lenses for pretty much all types of shooters now but there certainly are still gaps.
They've averaged 7 lenses per year, which pretty much matches what they did for EF mount.
Knowing Nikon, they are certainly going to bungle the Z6 III. My guess is that the rumor about the 24mp sensor is true, maybe it's even a stacked sensor. Problem is, the Z6 III will compete directly against the Sony A7 IV, and for most people, 33mp vs 24mp is a much stronger selling point than 24mp stacked vs 24mp non-stacked.
This is especially true if there's actually going to be a Z5 II, which is a bigger and bigger if imho. Z5 II would also require massively improved AF and a BSI sensor, or nobody would buy it. But if the Z5 II has adequate AF (i.e. much better than Z6 II, Z7 II), then the Z6 III would need more than a stacked sensor to set it apart, or Nikon couldn't justify its price tag of ~$2.500 next to the Z5 II.
So my prediction is that Nikon will cancel the Z5 line, as well as the Z7 line. Or maybe, just maybe, Nikon is smart enough to give the Z6 III a 33mp (non-stacked) sensor. I doubt it though.
I thought Jared was a Z8 and Z9 fan. Hes saying he will not be shooting Nikon anymore?
A 70-150 f2 would be another unicorn. A lot of people don't realize that f2 is twice as much light as f2.8. F2 is why the 28-70 is a unicorn (besides beautiful rendering)
This RF 70-200 could be appealing to some enthusiasts who wanted to use a teleconverter (if supported). At the moment, there are no semi-affordable RF zoom lenses with acceptable image quality in conjunction with a teleconverter. Even the RF 100-500 is weird to use with one…
true, but I would never ever put a converter on a 70-200. One reason is....if you're below 200mm, you just cost yourself light and quality.
TBH I never owned one, and since I migrated to RF glass I have never thought about it (yet). As you mentioned, I probably would not be happy with a converter on a 70-200. Unfortunately, the other RF lens options are (way) too expensive right now. Personally, I would like to see a prime lens with a lower 4 digit price tag, like a 400 f4 or f5.6. I mostly carry the 70-200 f2.8 because the 100-500 is too slow in many cases (even outside in the shadows).
@@ajc4000 I rented the Z 1.4x for my Z 70-200 last year for a road trip out west and it was f'n awesome. I used it a lot. It was hard to buy for a year.
I was heading out to a World Cup mountain biking even this year and finally was able to score one. I have a Tamron 100-400 but I'd rather use the Z 70-200/2.8 with the 1.4 which got me 280mm/F4 and results were awesome.
I didn't use it all the time as I wanted 2.8 shots but I did use it a lot for when I needed extra reach.
I rented a 2.0x for Christmas break just for shits and giggles to compare it to the Tamron.
@@froknowsphoto I just tested the Z 2.0x TC I rented on a Z70-200/2.8 and compared it to a Tamron (F-mount) 100-400mm. The 70-200mm + 2.0x TC @ 400mm outperformed the Tamron 100-400 @ F6.3 and F8 across the frame and even in the center...and this was on a 24mp Z6!
I did a test shot with it on the ZFc and was still impressed how good it was. I didn't do it back to back with Tamron as ran out of light. I've used it on D7100 so I already know what it looks like on crop sensor and it's definitely not as good.
The stabilization on the 70-200 @ 400mm was also orders of magnitude better than on the Tamron. Nikon's really doing some awesome work in the stabilization department.
Gotta stop hating on modern mirrorless teleconverters man, especially the Z mount ones.
You don't think they'd use the Sony 33mp sensor???
Can someone explain what a stack sensor has to do with auto focusing?
Quicker readout speed, so faster and more frequent passing of data to the AF system, quicker AF reactions.
Unless you're a pro sports or wildlife photographer, I really wouldn't worry about it.
Dang.. Canon is really pushing crazy new lenses..
All what i would buy would be 35, 50 and 85 with f 1.4, the 1.2 are too heave for my taste and the 1.8 and f2 are not good enough for me. I hope the 200-500 are not too heavy.
What are your biggest issues with Nikon? I'm a Z8 portrait photographer and love my 85mm f/1.2 S, but I'm worried I should have done some more research..
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@@JenHamon The majority of modern camera gear manufactured over the past decade offers more than sufficient capabilities for most individuals, if not all. There's a tendency for people to become overly absorbed in the latest camera bodies, playing into the marketing strategy of camera manufacturers who encourage consumers to constantly seek upgrades.
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Nikon doesn't have an F/2 transtandard zoom, and Sony and Canon flagships have slightly better AF (but the difference there is imperceptible for most shooters).
Personnally i shoot Nikon mainly because it is super cheap on the used market, and because i love their Z lens lineup (Especially the 1.8 S primes and the telephoto options). The Z mount also has the shortest flange distance and the widest mount of the market, so you can technically adapt absolutely any lens ever produced. Efficient E to Z AF adapters are already out there, and i expect we'll see RF to Z AF adapters sometime in the future.
Switching for canon or sony would actually be a downgrade for you because canon's 85 1.2 is 600€ more expensive than nikon, and an R5 costs about the same as a Z8, while not being as good. And Sony would be cheaper than nikon, but they don't really have an equivalent to the Z8 (the A7RV costs the same, but is slower and higher res, with worse video, base iso and burst specs than the Z8), and their top of the line 85mm, while much cheaper than nikon's, is an F/1.4 and not 1.2, and probably not as good. But if you need 61MP (which most portrait shooters don't), it is probably a good choice.
Of course autofocus can be as good with a stacked sensor as with a nonstacked sensor. The stacked sensor means the data is saved in a buffer between sensor and CPU very fast, but every thing else is the same.
Depends on AF on the sensor.
@@froknowsphotoYes, but the AF sensors on the sensor have nothing to do with whether the sensor is stacked (=own buffer ram) or not, as said.
@@Lofote If stacked sensors readout speed is much faster than non-stacked, as is usually the case, then AF performance will be better. For example AF calculations done at 120 times per second rather than being done at much slower rates of 20 or perhaps 30 times a second. And to further compound that to avoid rolling shutter distortion on non-stacked sensors you would need to use mechanical shutter - and while shutter is closed there is no light on the sensor, so this further affects the AF performance on non-stacked sensors. Of course you have the same problem using mechanical on a stacked sensor - but usually you would only do that for other reasons e.g. artificial lighting, flash etc.
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A mirrorles d500 is what nikon should release a baby z9 with crop sensor
Bro why is canon not making 35mm 1.2 RF?!? Ugh!
They are
Jared would never shift to shoot with Nikon ...😅
Tony Northrup is saying he might shift to Nikon 😅
Canon is confused to launch a flagship Mirrorless yet... everytime Canon plans, Sony or Nikon bangs upon a better flagship model launch keeping Canon guessing 😅
I have the RF 70-200 2.8, and I can't say I care about the external zoom.
I owned a Nikon 200-500mm F/5.6 external zoom for about two years now, great lens, but it made me realise that external zooms (especially big ones with a lot of internal volume) are dust vaccums, and most of them have horrible zoom throw.
But if you don't go often in dusty environnements, or don't mind having to turn your zoom ring 3 times to go over the entire range, external zooms are good.
Personnally, i will trade my 200-500mm for a 180-600 as soon as i find one used, and the only external zoom i will own in the future will be the 24-120 F4 Z
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Hope they do the 80-200mm f/2 instead of that 70-150mm.
Have you seen the size of a 200mm F2 prime? And the cost? they wont make a zoom like that.
It would be a bit bigger than a 180-400 F/4, heavier and more expensive. So they will never make such a lens.
A 70-150 F/2 would already be a very big and expensive lens (somewhere around 4-5k€ and 2-3 kg).
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Nikon really pushing the Z series a lot makes people goes Zzz..... 😅But damn nikon hope you dont sleep on the entry level line up
I shoot j peg. so im sorry i won't be able to buy your gear. merry xmas.
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i rather have internet zooming like Sigma Sport 120-300mm nikon 200-500mm or original 70-200mm where lens does not zoom out. that for this reason when people see my lens at time do not notice the lens does not zoom out. it also help me when i have someone sitting next too. since will not know how close they are to me or they know if to close to me and might get hit by the lens when it zooms out.
Nikon 200-500 is an external zoom. I own one, and i feel the same as you about external zooming, but for different reasons (shitty zoom throw, stiff zoom rings, dust vaccuming), which is why i will switch for the 180-600 (internal zoom) in the near future
I want the snoopy one JP