Our Worldbuilding Setting & The Rest of 2023 | State of the Institute
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- The subject of our Worldbuilding series has been decided! So here's what to expect from the Templin Institute in the rest of 2023.
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Neat . Well i hope the worlbuilding of Orion Arm will be interesting . Also , i'm wondering what is the musics used in World of Tyrell . I loved it . Have a good day .
I think my only real high-level question would be if you guys are going to try and have some sort of 'fallen precursor' elements in this world, since a lot of sci-fi writers seem to like giving their world a light dusting of the remains of some past alien civilization.
It's not necessary that you do, and based on your past content I'm sure I'll still enjoy whatever is made, alien ruins or not, but I'm just curious if that had been one of the ideas kicked around for this setting.
I have a question can’t the world of taangali just take place on some backwater in the orion arm? After all there were some worlds lost during the evacuation of earth.
Question (s):
Will colonized space take up the entirety of the Orion Arm (10000 ly long, 3500 ly across), or just be a dozen systems inside 20 ly of Earth? In-between?
Will the Orion Arm have aliens other than the Synfraxi, or just terraformed human worlds?
A "ProtoPlayList" of all these videos, actually on your, currently barren, 2ndChannel, would be worth having there, IMO.
I'll admit to being disappointed we won't see Tyrrell come to fruition. That said Orion does have room for an enormous amount of development and I'm excited to see what is set to come.
Monster garden is doing his own vision of Tyrrell and he doing a book on it check it out.
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Pretty much my same opinion. I'm looking forward to whatever the Institute puts out, I refuse to imagine it could be bad
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I am of the same mind.
Yes, pretty much the same.
Tyrell seemed more interesting to me, but I'm fine with going sci-fi.
At the end of the day, I'm most intertested in how Marc and the team go about the process afterall.
Since both of the other settings had double letters in them, this setting should obviously be called the Oorion Arm.
oh-oh-oh-orion, ARM.
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Oriion
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Ooriion Aarm :)
I do hope that Tyrrel will be explored in the future, I really love that setting.
Taangali would be a great ttrpg setting, Tyrell would be a good setting for a book, Orion is a good setting for a tv series.
Same but Orion as the book and Tyrell the TV series.
Realistically all of them would be too expensive to do on TV unless you have Dragon Money, and even then HBO kept having major battles happen off screen to save money.
@@irishguy051Nationalize HBO and give them NASAs Budget
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who had thoughts along these lines. Heck, even a couple of short stories like the one they did for the Holy Rollers, would be awesome. Or even if they keep those two in the bag for later and slowly flesh them out a bit more.
I so wish youtube allowed subscriptions to play lists, where you could have a play list for each series of videos a channel did. Then it would almost be like a tv network.
agreed
I actually switched from low fantasy to Taangali when I saw the details of the world. I found the setting far more unique and compelling than I expected and was sad to see it lose support relatively speaking
Absolutely with you there.
I can imagine so many different stories from that universe and will probably personally pick it up for some TTRPG.
I think it was more that Tyrell won votes and less that Taangali lost voters. As a Taangali voter, I think that's fair. Tyrell was the setting with the most interesting pitch and I am fairly sure it would have won if not for the Sci-Fi bias of the voters.
same
Taangali feels like the one piece world but on land
I liked the concept of Taangali. If it can be worked into the Orion Arm, I'd think that it would be one of the colony worlds that for whatever reason, got cut off from the rest of the galactic community, suffered some cataclysm. I think one of the possible 'origin' stories mentioned was that it MIGHT have been a world of a far flung empire? That can still work in Orion Arm, especially if eventually someone rediscovers it but can't LEAVE to let the greater community know. So Taangali gets to stay as it was, and the Orion Arm continues its machinations.😊
So for me, there are three things that I would love to see from this project:
1. A way to play it as an TTRPG. Getting a few mates together and then form some sort of black ops/mercenary band that is struggling to keep the money flowing while doing their shenanigans. Or just a straight up interceptor/fighter squadron doing Ace Combat stuff.
2. Once the setting is starting to be fleshed out, the idea of following a simple white collar worker life for about a week would be rather fascinating. Where do they work? What is their daily challenges? How would their family life look like? Do they drink a bit every day or are they a weekend party animal? Pretty much a small diary entry from someone who isn't important.
3. Where are the cat girls?
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@@TemplinInstitute Well, time to start up the cosmetic cybernetics industry and the bio-labs for human experimentations! There no board of ethics on the rim worlds.
If you're looking for a name for the Orion Arm setting, I think "Cold Spur" would be pretty fitting. Partly because the Orion Arm is sometimes called the Orion Spur, and partly because this setting has Cold War energy.
"The Cold Stars" could be a fitting name, I guess 🤔
I’m unsurprised by these results like you pointed out. I am surprised that you’re still planning on investing time into the other two and I couldn’t be happier about that. The world of Tyrrell has clearly struck a nerve with people and it deserves to be fleshed out as well.
It’s nice to know that Tyrrell will be coverage to an extent and more so that there are other people working on it
Not the pick I chose but it was a surprisingly tough choice between the three options given to us. Nevertheless, can't wait to see how this series goes
Ah well, the people have spoken. You guys did great with both seasons of Invicta, so I'm sure you'll put out something great! In the mean time I'm going to keep working on my own world/story that takes inspiration from both Taangali and Tyrell. Hopefully over break I'll get enough time to set up my own channel and start uploading about it. Good luck with your endeavors fellow worldbuilders, I can't wait to see what you make!
Hear, hear! Well said fellow traveller!
Im definitely looking forward to an Invictus Season 3
Had I'd known how unpopular Tangaali Wastes would be, I would have voted for magic WWI instead. Kind of annoyed there wasn't a runoff vote.
Honestly? I might just try and spin off a world with it. Might be worth getting some likeminded heads together.
@@pob_42 I would like to join.
Meh, Orion still would have won probably. It was plenty of voter's second choice, mine included.
The Orion Arm received a plurality (the most) of the votes, but not a majority (>50%). This means that more people wanted to see something that was not the Orion Arm. However, we don't know what the 2nd choice of the Taangali voters would have been. In a runoff, I suspect the Sci-Fi setting would've won anyway. But it would've been nice to have, if simply for statistics sake.
@@henryauron3646 And fairness's sake. I voted Tyrrell, but would've been fine with Taangali too. Orion winning without a majority feels bad, especially because I'm tired of the Sci-Fi on this channel.
Sad to see. Would have loved to see Taangali come to fruition
I would have preferred Tyrrell. It has potential to cover Everything from low fantasy to high fantasy and the era it is inspired by is one of the most interesting and turbulent in history . An era where we went from a mostly farming based economics to a fully industrial society. Thoe the setting was described as low fantasy the description of the Elderkin was more high or middle fantasy. And this gives the setting the potential it has.
On one hand you can have a non-magical story about people living the lives in what was the industrial revolution one of the most turbulent periods of history with revolution, social issues and so much more. On the other hand, you can have high fantasy with stories of the Elderkin trying to preserve their old ways in a changing world and have Harry Potter style storis.
And if you want to combine them you can do that. Have an arms race where they try to use the magic of the elder Elderkin and combine it with technology to create new and more powerful weapons. Or you could go full steampunk. Hey steampunk is basically 1880-1890 technology combined with magic because how else do you explain all the crazy stuff in steampunk.
And that is my reason way Tyrrell would have been preferred because the wide area of potential story’s. You have potential for storis from J.R.R. Tolkien to Jules Verne and further to Sherlock Holmes and Charles Dickens. And that is not the end of it.
I'm very disappointed we're retreading old ground. It would've been more interesting, I think, to step out of comfort zones and tread less traveled ground. That said, I wish Marc well on this venture. My understanding is this is a kind of. . passion project for him? And so while it wasn't my choice, I will throw my support behind him.
Yeah the channel admited they slanted the vote.
Honestly, I voted for Taangali less for the setting itself - any thinly sketched setting can be made compelling depending how you fill it in - and more because I liked the idea of pushing oneself to move outside one's comfort zone. To enter a genre where you're not fully familiar with all the tropes and the biggest works in its canon. I think you get more out of it as a creative exercise even if you aren't necessarily overjoyed by the end product.
Man I’m really sad Tyrell didn’t win. I was one of your original sci fi voters who switched.
Thank you though for committing to exploring the other worlds more, even if it is in the form of supplemental content for world-building workshops.
I did mention in the Orion Arm video that the aliens felt tacked on. The main reason I feel that way is because they vanish and fade into the background after humanity leaves Earth. Why make that creative choice?
You guys should name the universe "Hearts Of Orion". Has a familiar ring to it and it's also topical lol
Perfection.
@@TemplinInstitute I guess but “Ashes Of Defeat” would’ve worked too.
Hearts of OIron 4
5:26 Ayyy! Thanks for the shoutout! I honestly didn't expect my little fiefdom to attract so much attention within the Tyrrell community, but there's now over a hundred members of the project! I am excited not only for the future of my project and the Institutes, but for all future interpretations of the Orion Arm, Tyrrell, or the Taangali Wastes, or for any other setting that pops up as a result of the Way of Worldbuilding.
Here’s a name that might fit for the science fiction setting “Ashes Of Defeat” since the setting takes place after a pyhic victory on Earth I thought this title might make sense for the setting and it just sounds cool and has a parel with Dawn of victory.
Or "Rise from the Ashes" to further the idea that this is beginning of something great coming out of our darkest moments. A lot will depend on the tone that the setting takes.
True .@@raymondjacobs1955
I’m going to step in and add the title, “Ashes of Victory.” There is already a scifi novel with that title out there so that might cause to many issues. But it covers a lot of the same powerful feels. A pyrrhic defeat with humanity looking out over the ashes of their world knowing that they won but at a cost that almost makes it not worth it and now with the Cold War, knowing that it could all happen all over again.
I was gonna go with that actually but I decided against it because it sounded too similar to Dawn of Victory.@@Bluehairedgirl89
I'd be very interested to see the explanation as to how nations like the Empire of Japan and Nazi Germany were forced to change/adapt to a interstellar world. You've said yourself that dictatorships aren't really compatible with ruling realms with multiple planets or even just one.
I'm sad Taangali won't be developed (I stand by my assertion it's the most unique). Make it up to me with many excellent flags
I am really glad there are people want to do Tyrrell project as their own personal project. I was really divided between Tyrrell and Orion Arm and while it's great that Orion Arm will be the worldbuilding project, I think Tyrrell should be saved too. Mainly because it's a fantasy I never seen before where for once it's not set in Medieval Europe but in an Industrial Revolution and World War 1 setting. Just shows how much potential fantasy has if it uses different time period as its inspiration.
All three of the options were so amazing and unique - each rich with potential, just begging to be fleshed out. My choice in the polls was much harder than I thought it was going to be, but I'm glad the setting you guys feel most comfortable working in is the one that won out (even though I personally cast my vote for The Taangali Wastes, the concept for which I think I may just have to steal and develop on my own for a TTRPG setting. I'm sure my players will love it). I'm excited for this project, to see where the Institute will take the Orion setting, and to see what exactly they will do now that they have their very own Space Soviet Union to work with!
Lastly, I just wanted to say thank you to all the hard-working personnel at the Templin Institute, both for providing us with amazing looks into alternate worlds, and now for creating one of their own.
I voted for Tangaali because I considered it the most unusual and unique of the presented settings. I have simply never seen something like that and I was interested in where it might go. That said, all three propositions were interesting and each sparked curiosity.
Question: What method of interstellar travel are you going to use? And, related, what allowed humanity to achieve interstellar travel despite losing majority of resources and population available to it in 1930's?
Dawn of Victory is what got me into worldbuilding in the first place oh so many years ago, and I had no clue you were even involved with it until last week's video! I'm really excited to see that universe to be rebuilt with all the team has learned over the years, and I'm a sucker for geopolitical science fiction!
Where can I find the dawn of victory?
Am sadge. This setting, (imo) while unique in some ways falls short in pure creative and conceptual vision compared to either of the other two ~ which, in contrast I couldn't decide between.
Still, I'm not gonna throw a tantrum. It is what it is. Still keen to see where this goes and will continue supporting the channel.
I'm in the same place. I voted for Taangali purely because they said it would be hardest for them and wanted to see what was born from that endeavor.
Now I'm curious as to which factions Marc thought would win Stellaris Invicta seasons 1&2.
As to this worldbuilding development project itself, as I've thought before, it will indeed be fascinating to how the Orion Arm develops, what the new name will be, and how it could assist/inspire in the creation of many people's own settings.
Plus, yeah, discord worldbuilding discussions does at times feel like fighting in a WW1 trench in all directions while wearing a blindfold.
I am also starting my own book, very nervous but you guys have inspired me, to finially put my ideas to paper my particular book has to do with the fantasy setting and your way of world building has been extremely helpful so I am glad that you guys will be referencing/comparing how you would also build up different genre's as that would help me tremendously, I did decide to put a magic system in the world of sorts that was a painful thing to create my own from ground up and having to map out and balance as needed, again thank you all for the help with my book!
Question: I am curious what art style you will be going for? Will it be more gritty or super high tech in the aesthetics?
Absolutely wild to think that I've been thinking about The Orion Arm / Dawn of Victory off-and-on for almost 15 years. 😂
As much as I'm nostalgic for the Slipstream forums and og wiki, I'm excited to see how much more of a mature, nuanced, and thoughtful reimagining will be possible with the benefit of hindsight and experience.
Very, very proud of y'all.
Still cant believe cold war but space won. I wish the factions had different names and ideologies. Adding a neo- goes a long way
That Sandy one with the caravans could've been sooooo cool
Personally, the thing I love and want to see thought applied to is the space ships. How large are they, what kind of crew compliment, what does combat look like. But also the culture around ships, are they so rare that only major businesses and national governments can field them, or are there bands of roving ships moving from system to system. Cant wait for the next part of this process.
Also, I would LOVE to see realistic space combat ships depicted somehow. Not quick, aerial fighters, but rather slow orbital maneuvers performed by advanced computers. Combat focused on disabling communications, knocking out computers, or blowing small, penetrating attacks to pierce the inner atmosphere of a ship. The series Red Rising got kind of close to this in my opinion, but wasn't perfect.
The Orion Arm was by far the weakest for me, damn you Templin Institute audience and your sci-fi bias!
I understand that Orion Arm won but are you willing to at least do something with the other two settings? Both of those were really awesome settings that IMO had a lot more potential. Plus do you plan on addressing some of the concerns people had on the Discord about some of the more fucked up and questionable aspects of DoV? That was a big part of the concern some people like myself had with Orion Arm winning, since those aspects like the notion of the Nazis still being a faction in space or the CSA existing in space were incredibly sensitive subjects and I feel like we should have gotten more information on how those subjects were going to be handled before going ahead with the setting.
I actually can't find the wiki. The link on the main page leads to a dead domain. Where could I read about the original Dawn of Victory?
@@maryjames8433Wayback machine
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I don't know if it is actually possible to do so. I'm sure that other people, like me, have saved old maps and concept art - but the original DoV wiki was intentionally replaced with the new wiki - which is now defunct.
As much as that may feel like a loss, wiping the slate clean like this affords the creative team as much liberty and freedom to re-explore and re-imagine the setting without needing to adhere to worldbuilding done over a decade ago by much younger authors.
@@AlexandrianCodex I understand that angle. But it also leaves me clueless as to what people mean when they talk about Dawn of Victory's problematic elements.
@@maryjames8433 Yeah! That's totally fair!
Broadly, some of the issues with Dawn of Victory's setting came down to a lack of specialized knowledge and expertise in the, generally young and eurocentric, writing team.
Subjects like the fate/future of Nazism, Fascism, Segregation, Colonialism, etc were not handled as delicately or with as much research, care, and mindfulness as those subjects warrant.
There was a very strong dissonance between wanting to somehow have the thematic effect of incorporating factions like the Empire of Japan and the Greater German Reich - whilst also not wanting to glorify Fascist, Xenophobic regimes and beliefs. Even generally well-regarded settings like that of The Man In The High Castle stumble with this.
There were some half-assed band-aids that contributors/writers (myself included) slapped on like "oo maybe there was a Werhmacht coup so it's only Prussian imperialism and not Nazism", etc. Which were, honestly, cop-out solutions where we weren't really dealing with engaging with the fundamental question of if a future for Fascism, Racism, etc should even be imagined in the first place - as imagining their continued existence lends them undue legitimacy and glorification.
I'm super excited for this! The Templin Institute always makes high quality videos and I love world building.
Question: What is the FTL System in the Orion Arm?
For the QnA: Considering your stance on mechs, will they appear in the project? First thought that came to mind
Good luck, I’m excited to see where it all goes!
And so the votes done. I'll admit, I came in wanting the space opera mil-scifi setting to win, but both Taangali and Tyrell suprised me. Sad to see them both lose. I'm pretty partial to the idea of a run-off vote where the top two choices would've competed.
Question time for Not-Quite-Orion's-Arm: Can there be mechs?
Thing is though the votes were not that close, all of the voters for the third choice would have had to go to the second choice. Probably would not work since post apocalypse and sci Fi fans have a lot of crossover like fallout. If the difference had been closer maybe.
Really would've loved a new setting other than space opera but this is good too!
I voted for Tyrrell, but I'm still looking forward to your videos on the chosen topic 😊
i just hope orion isn't just generic west faction = good guys vs eastern factions = bad guys
I happy with the thought of including the other ideas and that y’all will explore the worlds your community comes up with
all 3 settings were just amazing, i would have loved all three, so even the most smallest bits and bobs for the other 2 added somewhere in the future is really cool.
i cant wait to explore the depths of space or the rangling of the big powers in the orion arm (or whatever it will end up to be).
A shame Tyrrell didn't win
Well, guess we won't be seeing those knife-ears getting gunned down by heavy machine guns. However, what we will be seeing is space nazis getting gunned down by heavy plasma guns!
I do hope the institute takes a page out of the resistance series of games to flesh out that interwar- ww2 era where humanity was combating the hostile inter dimensional flora and fauna. It’s the only way (through reverse engineering and improving) I can see humanity going from nuking the entire planet to developing starships in a century and change.
I hold out hope for Taangali, may even hope in the discord and find a grouppen.
Glad to see my choice won! Though I think maybe modifying the old Dawn of Victory setting may be a bit more interesting, rather than the old generic Space Nazis, Space Soviets and Space Allies. Maybe add nations like a vengeful China or India as wildcards? Just my thoughts, looking forward to the Orion Arm!
While I voted for Taangali, it seemed that Orion Arm, as the designated 'easy' option, was the one you guys were most keen on, and that passion should show through in the stuff you create for it, so I'm not too disappointed
I am excited to see where this goes! You have inspired my to try world building, and I am now 7 pages in to a world of my own.
While slightly disappointed that Tyrrell didn't take the top spot, I am very excited to see what you come up with for the Orion Arm setting. I am also hoping that you guys post up the notes you had for the other two settings so that they may become a crowdsourced creation, which may also be a fascinating exercise in cooperative world-building in their own right.
What a great channel, thank you for doing this!
Just Awesome. I love this chanel.
Can't wait to see it.
I've got somewhat of a meta-question here: *What is the purpose of the world?*
Is it for a novel, a tv series, a video game?
And what would be the scope of that story? Would it be about frontline stories from the perspective of individual soldiers, are we going to tell a game of thrones style story about the geopolitics of a specific interstellar conflict, or are we going the Issac Asimov route and have a look at a nations development over the centuries?
That's something I usually find missing in most worldbuilding content online. Worldbuilding in and of it self is pretty cool, but few people do it just for the fun of it. Most people come at it from a certain angle, and *that angle* is the most important aspect of their world, because it directs the worldbuilder's attention where it should be. And yet, almost nobody seems to be talking about it.
Orion arm was my third choice for sure, but it is important to play to your own strengths.
I like your ideas in general and look forward to hearing anything about any of those settings.
I think for me, the very issue is that I grew up with cold war ideologies clashing in real life so I don't especially want to have my escapism be another 20th century earth analog.
That said, ANYTHING done well can overcome it's genre and I will definitely be subscribed to any channels you and your team make.
And as a side note, I loved the art featured in all these videos so credit due to the contributors.
Question : how is it that in the 1930s about 30 years before the moon landing was humanity able to create space ships that were enough to carry humanity to other star systems when we couldn’t even get the moon until 30 years later
In the Orion Arm setting brief video, space travel is described as being made possible "in the ensuing century" - presumably with the benefit of reverse-engineering/observation of alien/Scinfaxi technology
Great to see the Institute discovering new worlds.
In my hopes that someone out there carry the torch of tyrell, its concepts mainly on how industrial revolution happends in a world of fantasy, in my hopes I can see biplanes fight dragons, guns againts giant monsters and ships againts krakens and such, include the demonic/chaotic invasion as well
An anime called gate exist where modern ppl travels to the world of fantast but I want something like tyrell
I wasn't surprised by the results, though I think all three settings have potential and if nothing else will inspire more people to take a hand at creating their own settings.
looking forward to this stuff
Guys like you are an inspiration to guys like me. Thanks!
Oh no, I'm not disappointed. All three seemed super interesting.
My biggest hope for this series is that the Symphaxi will make a return and be an important part of the story - they were the only thing that stood out to me about Orion Arm that was unique and interesting, otherwise it's just another generic sci-fi verse with another generic roster of reskinned political ideologies from real life, retreading the same political arguments we've seen a billion times, without a lot of distinct identity of its own. However, as a dejected Tyrell voter, I take solace in the fact that Templin's quality never disappoints regardless of what the topic is; as one of my friends put it, "if Templin is cooking us a classic steak, at least we know it'll be the best steak we've ever had".
I'm actually pretty impressed that Tyrrell took a many votes as it did 4:00
I may be one of many or one of a few who would have been just as happy with any of the 3 options as winner.
I Hope Taangali doesn’t get left to the wayside. Tyrell is too grimdark for me, and Orion Arm is just same old same old.
Y’all should cover the Republic of Gilead from the hand maids tail
What sorta clichés or stereotypes in sci-fi settings do you hope to incorporate in your setting somehow or give a new twist? What kinds do you wish to avoid and why?
Always love all the content from Templin! Despite my favorite not winning, i've certainly got some great inspo for my own stuff, especially with Tyrell. I'm excited to see you all go wild on a setting you obviously have a lot of knowledge and care for! I may just get Patreon so I can participate as much as possible.
Cheers for the Artists for their Artwork provided for the way-of-world-building series.
As a setting, Orion just seemed to me like a more interesting Starfield. Taangali was my first vote and I'm definitely upset that it performed so poorly, especially since it seemed like many only voted for Tyrell to try and make Orion lose.
With that being said, I'm still quite looking forward to this series. Been following this channel since almost the very beginning, and will continue to do so well into the future.
Maybe, once the Orion Arm (place holder name) is flushed out, if the world building is popular enough, you could do it again, only this time, the choice will been between Tyrrel and Taangali! (I'm being hopeful here :P
TBH the Orion Arm and the Taangali Wastes can easily exist in the same universe.
Shame we can’t try something new and people want to fall back on typical SiFi stuff. Either way, I know this channel will always be number 1 for compelling story telling and world building
Just like the last 2 times!!!
Tyrell really tickled my fancy, hope we'll circle back to that later on!
I think the individual factions and the role of ideology will have to carry the Orion Arm. It's definitely your forte, so my disappointment at Taangali and Tyrell's loss is tempered by my great expectations that the final result will be much stronger and more unique than the initial presentation came across to me. I look forward to the evolution of this project with great interest
Taangali was such a dope idea, but I'm excited to see where you take Orion Arm.
Little disappointed that Tyrrell lost the poll, I am however very excited to see what you come up with in the concept that won out, I am a big fan of space opera and hard sci-fi.
I like the idea of fantasy meets ww1 industrial capacity, but scifi books found here on RUclips would be preferred because space battles set a tempo without music or confusion.
I skipped your video on Orion Arm because I thought you were just going over the lore of the Orions Arm worldbuilding project lol
Perfectly happy to see interesting mashups like Lovecraft but cyberpunk, or Bronze Age collapse and magic.
I quite like the idea of naming the setting "Orion's Spur" because it sounds cool, and is more accurate to where Sol is located. Also cause it differentiates itself enough from Orion's arm without being too different
Best of luck
You must visit Tyrell and Tangaali in the future, the settings are too good to ignore forever.
Honestly cannot believe the Taangali wastes votes were so low
Oooh yeah!
Very mind-boggling videos
Glorious news
I really liked the ww1 fantasy mix.
sad. the other settings were more intrestig
You guys should declare the other two settings public domain
I am extremely disappointed that Taangali did not win. Not only did it have a lot of potential, Mark said it was the most challenging setting to create and I think seeing how he would have overcome those challenges would have been very useful for a worldbuilding-focused series. I get that this channel's fanbase is mostly Mil-SF fans but at the same time we had two seasons of Stellaris Invicta and Im personally very bored of the Mil-SF genre.
Taangali could have had elements of Mil-SF in it, with the wider galactic narrative, but instead we just get... yet another sci-fi setting that's, dare I say, interchangeable with so many others.
Worse yet, it's just WW2 but space again. That trope is so overdone, not to mention usually very poorly presented when ideologies like Nazism, Stalinism, Japanese militarism etc. are concerned.
So I kind of forgot/ kept on putting off voting in the poll myself so oops. But honestly, which was a surprise to me as well, it was such a close toss up between Tyrell and the Orion Arm. The debate I was having Tyrell sounded like a great idea for an individual setting for a single author/ channel to go through and have their way with it...indeed it is pretty similar to some of the ideas I'm having for my own setting I'm working on...but the Orion Arm just felt more like a potential for having an 'MCU' type storytelling. Given how diverse the world feels it feels like almost anyone should theoretically come and be able to add their own stories if you guy decide to open it up like that.
I also did a little jig when I saw you guys were thinking about doing another season of Stellar Invicta.
Question: How do you prevent your world or universe from looking too much like the ones you use as your inspirations? Is it bad if your inspirations are too obvious?
Regardless of the winning title or world to move with, all ideas are great as there is so much that can be added and changed to make everything very different and one of a kind. I find it great to see all the different ideas people make and work on. All 3 of the ideas/titles seems interesting and cool.
Even though I voted for it, I kind of hoped that Orion Arm would NOT be the winner. Yeah, I know, "So why vote for it?" It was mostly, if not entirely, out of being biased towards its genre - that, and still re-watching the Stellaris Invicta seasons. Having been a Star Wars fan my whole life (I still remember my excitement when the Special Edition on VHS was first announced - go ahead and call me "old" for that) with my introduction to Star Trek being when TNG was first being aired (after the first two seasons, mind you) with liking Strange New Worlds more than I thought I would, I am something for a sucker of military sci-fi and space opera.
That is not to say I could not like or even want the other options - I sung my praises for them when they were pitched. I guess the Tangaali Wastes ultimately sounded a little too much like a hybrid between Fallout and Road Warrior and thus came in last. Maybe it can be explored more later on, but that is too speculative to bank on at this time. It is a shame but not really unexpected.
Tyrrell, though, actually made me hopeful. I am so sick of the countless bare-bones lazy Tolkien-esque fantasies out there that my greatest hope for it was that it not be "medieval with magic," as I have heard some describe the style. Yes, there is plenty that can be done with it (I am really enjoying Frieren right now), so I was not worried about the Institute being lazy if Tyrrell was the winner. Despite my vote, I feel like Tyrrell probably most deserved to win. Maybe the final bit in the pitch made it sound like it was starting to morph into Warhammer - nothing inherently wrong with that, but I guess it can be difficult to make it distinct from such a franchise - and brought the pitch down, but that is merely my take.
Oh well, it is what it is, and who knows, maybe if this series turns out good, the other choices will get another chance, and maybe we will also get other possible new worlds to build. Either way, I am already subscribed to the secondary channel, and I look forward to the points brought up.
If we can ask questions for the next video, I do have some regarding certain countries and nationalisms from the period: what happened to Spain and Portugal pre-Orion? Did India became independent as a country or fractured due to the alien invasion? How was the Warlord Era in China resolved? What area became a no-go zone? Did it also include the airspace and if so, how did Southern and Northern Earth comunicate?
As much as I wanted to Tyrrell to win, I also liked Taangali and Orion. Its a win-win-win in my books.