@@elitegamer8351 Well. what if... Bethesda makes a spinoff titled, " Elder scrolls travels: WHITESTRAKE. " In which it is an offline ES Game that is set in both the future and on the timeline where Players goes on to Pelinal's adventures. Damn.
If we are to study the way that he is written, then yes, he is a player character. His erratic personality is somewhat mentioned in the books and FudgeMuppet actually talks about it in his vid. That's what tipped me off. If we look at the idea of a "TimeTraveling-Cyborg-Player-Character that becomes a god upon death" we can clearly see that some of the features have already been used in other Bethesda games. A person that travels to the future = Fallout 4, Becoming a god = Oblivion, Cyborg = The Terminator games made by Bethesda in the 90s. Maybe one of the devs, that worked on some of these projects, though it would be funny to make such a character.
Alessia: "Pelinal you dont have to kill every elf you see! Some elves arent that bad!" Pelinal: "Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong." Alessia: "...even your name?" Pelinal: "Especially my name."
"Nice job with dealing with the Thamlor, Pelinal." "What's a Thalmor? I just heard about a province full of elves and went to say hello." "..." "Hey why is your ears pointy?"
@@zackarynigbor7821 *Tullius and Ulfric declare treaty* - New Anti-Thalmor alliance is formed between them -Tullius becomes the Emperor -Ulfric becomes High King *Ysgramor and Pelial return* *Thalmor: slowly bends over*
its pretty clear he is the avatar of lorkan, think about it, his rage towards elves, his missing heart, his knowledge and timeless nature, the urge to help humans. its pretty clear.
Why is Lorkhan praising Reman? He’s confirmed (around Morrowind time - but it has yet to be retconned) to be a cyborg sent from the time of C0DA. He doesn’t have a missing heart, he has an artificial heart.
@@OneLastJellyGuy From what I understand in the lore the Shezzarines (Lorkan's mortal incarnations) aren't even aware that they are Lorkhan. Possibly the only one that became self aware of this was possibly Talos/Tiber Septim as he ascended.
OneLastJellyGuy but it wasn’t confirmed that he was a cyborg. it was said by Kirkbride after he had already left Bethesda’s writing team. let’s not forget here that a majority of the lore Kirkbride wrote was dismissed as “Kirkbride’s nonsense” during the development of Morrowind and was intended to be left up to interpretation by the player. it’s far more likely that Pelinal was a Shezzarine; and sure, that doesn’t necessarily exclude him from being a cyborg, but the arm being made of a “Killing Light” could just as easily be interpreted as Aedric Spear from ESO, or a reference to Airgetlám, the silver prosthetic arm of the Celtic god Nuada, and his heart could easily be missing because he’s a Shezzarine (incarnation of Shezzar who is an interpretation of Lorkhan, obviously).
"His destructive ire resonated all the way to the heavens, and Alessia was forced to make sacrifices to the Aedra to keep them from leaving the world in disgust." Okay now that is some Doomguy level of brutal right there.
Fahri Nugraha the Aedra “leaving the world” would essentially cause them to stop existing, as they are bound to Mundus, yes? So he nearly drove them to kill them selves in disgust. Metal AF
@@Autipsy Bound to it in the sense they helped create it and watch over it now, but I think that them leaving would have meant they'd cut off ties to helping mortals and would have just sat eternally in Aetherius
I don’t know the source, but the Aedra aren’t even conscious, let alone ready to break apart and leave the world they created. They quite literally ARE the world.
@@OneLastJellyGuy That's more the earth bones, the Aedra that sacrificed their very lives to create the laws of physics essentially in the mortal realm. Some Aedra didn't die during the process and became Elnofey and eventually degenerated into what is now known as Mer or Elves. Some Aedra though kept their divine natures but lost their physical forms. Those Aedra became known as the 8 divines (or 7 depending if you believe Arkay started mortal or not, different sources and lore say different things with Arkay or Orkay as he's sometimes known). So out of the hundreds of Aedra that gave their lives and physical forms to become the world, only 8 of them managed to maintain a portion of their power and consciousness ascending to Aetherius, bringing dead mortals that revere them with them. That being said elderscrolls lore is a clusterfuck and has contradictions everywhere. Who knows how accurate the above I said is in relation to what the dev's intended.
Elf approaches Alessia Suddenly a horse drawn cart driven by Pelinal comes from nowhere running the elf over. Pelinal Looks down at Alessia from the driver seat slinging his Dwarven crossbow his shoulder. "Come with me if you want to live."
When asked what his madness felt like he said "like the dream no longer needs the dreamer" When asked what it felt like to kill a being with a soul he said "I don't know, I have only killed Mer"
I'm replaying oblivion and im on the mage guild quest "Vahtacen's secrets," and in a book titled "the wild elves" it says the Aldmer called outsiders "pellani." Did they straight up name their word for "invader" after this guy???
"In the First Era...in the first battle...when the shadows first lengthened...one stood. He chose the path of perpetual de-elfing. In his ravenous hatred, he found no peace and with boiling blood he scoured the Heartland, seeking vengeance upon the Elf Kings who had wronged Men. And those that tasted the bite of his sword (and mace) named him... THE WHITESTRAKE!"
@Boo Hoo chim is literally canon and its also heavily indicated that godhead is canon (read stuff about Lorkhan, Vivec and Dagoth Ur). Bethesda likes mysteries, they don't just flat out reveal stuff.
The main reason that they don’t want talos worshipped is because in TES series it seems that how much power a god has is directly effected by how a god is worshipped and how much a god is worshipped. So if the thalmor can diminish the amount of people who worship him then his power will diminish as well
@@stoicgaardian yep. and talos is the guardian of auri-el/akatosh, who is the god of time. if they can remove talos then they can strike at the god of time, restoring their immortality. but regarding pelinal, if he was an avatar of lorkhan, it would make even more sense why he would mention their obession with 8. lorkhan was the 9th created not by anui-el, but by sithis.
@@stuckonaslide time is weird in the elder scrolls. it doesn't flow in a linear manor, but occurs all at once. auriel's job as the god of time is to put it in order. it makes sense as an avatar of a divine, that he would have knowledge of events that haven't happened yet.
Ehhh he has a right to be. I mean if he is in fact the avatar of Shor then I completely understand as the eleven ancestors ripped him apart and threw him away basically. And plus his humans were being enslaved and treated terribly. This made him hate elven kind with a passion.
Well, the elves had enslaved humans and loved torturing them, making them into living furniture through their flesh sculpting and making things like gardens of guts and wailing wheels
“Gee Uncle Pelinal, what do you wanna do today?” “THE SAME THING WE DO EVERYDAY MARIHAUS, KILL ELVES” One thousand, six hundred and ten Two thousand, six hundred and ten Three thousand, six hundred and ten...
I think that Pelinal not having a heart proves that he is a Shezarrine because Lorkhans heart was ripped out and shot into the sea creating the red mountain
Alessia has seen his heartless chest in a vision. Pelinal may very well had a physical heart. The vision may only imply the nature of his soul, being a splinter of the soul of Lorkhan/Shor/Shezzar. We also can't be sure sure about the accuracy of those accounts as they are, by the time of TES IV: Oblivion, already over 3000 years old. We know that certain parts were lost and have only been recovered from the ruins of the fanatical Alessian Order.
As to why Pelinal hated Elves. Many Elves are disgusted by mortality and seek to destroy Mundus, return it to Aetherius and be turned back into Et'Ada. It's a manichean obsession. Mankar Kamoran, the great antagonist in the main qoest of TES IV: Oblivion was obsessed with the destruction of Mundus.
It's explicitly a matter of debate In Universe - and, according to the Song, was one even when he was still around - whether or not he was a Shezzarine. He personally refused to comment on it, which implies it was probably more complicated than that, but anyone that spoke about it too openly was eaten alive by moths in their sleep, which implies it was either obviously right and he or his greater self felt the need to suppress this knowledge even though it was obvious or so wrong that the world was compelled to punish such blasphemy. The Ayleids definitely thought he was a shezzarine.
i would say he is definitely a shezarrine. this would also be why he laughs at the elves obsession with 8. lorkhan was the 9th that was created by sithis in order to destroy what anui-el had created. as members of the race of man, we should all be saying "hail sithis!" for what is created must eventually be destroyed.
I like to think that Pelinal is what a player character is in his time, there was just never a game made about it. All the Elder Scrolls main characters are kinda time travelling cyborgs. We are their brains with our bodies in Nirn created by technology.
Player Character's influencing the world has more to do with the fact that they are an extension of the Godhead or Dreamer, they are the ones dreaming of the world but with a form on Nirn, so the fact they can do whatever the fuck they want is hinted across to that.
More like Neo. The entire Wlderscrolls universe is a simulation in the mind of the Dreamer, who is Todd Howard, and we as player characters have inherent Chim as we know we are in the Dream.
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead tell me Alice are you the dreamer or simply in someone else’s dream What tweedle dee said after being asked why should she care about what’s going on if she knows it’s a dream
Just saying, Pelinal as a concept is cool and all, but... I mean, seriously? People never look at the atrocities against innocents he committed I get he's a badass and all, and (most of) the Aylieds were also terrible and brutal, but they weren't all bad, some even helping Allesia, but apparently any acts he committed against innocents and those who tried to surrender would be enough to cause the Aedra to think about leaving Mundus. Cool concept yes, but people always toss away stuff like his unjust slaughter of innocent Khajit, and never take it seriously. Yet if a certain group of Elves does something bad, then they should automatically get tossed to the chopping block. Then again, we all have our own Biased opinions on certain matters, so I guess that's why.
11:41 the Aedra almost left in disgust? Wow that's interesting, since they didn't leave when the Nibbonese were being butchered and tortured by the Elves. The Aedra clearly favor certain races over others I see.
@@vincegalila7211 lol let's be honest, it wasn't "secluded" whatsoever. How do you seclude an entire civilization that takes delight in torture? Even more so since the slaves would pray to the 9 divines to save them. Furthermore, the divines do likely possess a form of omniscience/omnipresence. We know from the words of Sheogorath that he exists in the hearts of every being.
@@iamdream2562 is it really even possible for a entire civilization to delight in torture? Besides the Alyeids seemingly operated on a system of city states similar to Ancient Greece only unifying during the Rebellion.
@@vincegalila7211 Yes it is, obviously not all the Ayleids were sadistic, not every last elf was evil. What I am saying however, is that the suffering and enslavement of humans was universal among them. It is quite evident that the Aylieds regarded human life with absolute contempt.
I don't know that much about the Elder Scrolls lore as a whole, but I fell in love with this guy the moment I heard the "like the dream no longer needs its dreamer" line. It just suggests so many otherwise inexpressible ideas through its paradox. It's too deranged to really even describe chim... it's like he's saying he's gonna slaughter those elves whether or not the reality which _contains_ those elves even continues to exist. His rampage sustains its own reality through sheer hatred, in absence of any external logic or universe. I hope Bethesda gave whoever wrote that a raise.
Pelinal Whitestrake is a very fasinating character with his mysterious origins. Some say he was a time travelling cyborg which I think is pretty out there,even by Elder Scrolls standards. I think him being an avatar of Lorkhan is more likley.
I think he was Shezzar himself, not an avatar or a champion but his hearthless body. Trinimac must've wounded him so badly that he took hundreds of years to recover but when he did oh boy!
I feel as if it's being overlooked that Pelinal having no heart is a serious pointer in the direction of Shezzarine, heart-ripped and shot into the sea.
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TheArklyte I get it’s not 100% but come on we will never get a straight answer more than likely being TES lore. Which is its blessing and curse but you get my point
Pelinal is a great narrative artifact to help the concept of "the chosen one" that you find in elder scrolls games to fit in nicely moving forward. Sure, you're the hero of kvatch, the dragonborn, or whatever you may call yourself, but rest assured that there were people like you (that weren't player characters) that did things so massive and impressive that shaped the course of history in this world. If you ever thought that the civil war in skyrim going nowhere without your intervention was immersion-breaking, think that perhaps it's part of your character's destiny to make that move forward, and that their legend is still being written.
I always interpreted the Song of Pelinal as sort of the Iliad of Tamriel, or Cyrodiil at least. There are obvious parellels between it and the Illiad. Of course the song is far shorter. But the most obvious parallel is Pelinal to Achilles, with invulnerable bodies and powerful rages.
@@wintertrooper7918 I mean invulnerable as in no normal person or being could defeat or damage Pelinal. Only Varlians could pierce his armor and his might and power was too great even for the Demigod Umaril.
I agree with the other guy pelinal whitestrake sounds like the the Elder Scrolls universes version of Doom Slayer but instead of killing demons he kills elves
Time-travelling cyborg? More likely, someone used THE elder scroll and pushed him through time. If the three Nord heroes managed to push Alduin the Worldeater into the future (when the brothers do war on each other, Alduin Will return), then you can be sure THE elder scroll can be used to send Pelinal back through time.
@Roland Deschain There are a LOT of Tamrielic citizens who don't get out much, if at all, whether they want to or not. This applies to our world too. A lifetime ago when I was dragged to Church against my will, our Kenyan immigrant-priest once told us how before leaving Africa outright, he'd never heard of snow, never mind seen it.
"... [And then] Kyne granted Perrif another symbol, a diamond soaked red with the blood of elves, [whose] facets could [un-sector and form] into a man whose every angle could cut her jailers and a name: PELIN-EL [which is] "The Star-Made Knight" [and he] was arrayed in armor [from the future time]. And he walked into the jungles of Cyrod already killing, Morihaus stamping at his side froth-bloody and bellowing from excitement because the Pelinal was come... [and Pelinal] came to Perrif's camp of rebels holding a sword and mace, both encrusted with the smashed viscera of elven faces, feathers and magic beads, which were the markings of the Ayleidoon, stuck to the redness that hung from his weapons, and he lifted them, saying: "These were their eastern chieftains, no longer full of their talking." ---The Song of Pelinal, Vol. 2, On His Coming.
I know it would be highly unlikely but I think it would be pretty interesting if in a later Elder Scrolls your hero is sent to discover the remains of him from across Cyrodil, and possible other parts of Tamreil, to combat the ever growing plague of the Aldmeri Dominion.
@@Nonamearisto Many of the members have specifically stated as having grown up in Pagan households. To many of them, this IS IN FACT, a direct continuation of the Old Greek Religion; quietly hiding away as a private, household religion until political reforms in the 80's allowed them to more publicly unionize.
Pelinal reminds me of the Eternal Champion from the author Michael Moorcock. Different warriors across different timelines that are all one with eachother.
Just played Vigilant, one of the praised quest mods for Skyrim, and it isent until now I realize that I played as this dude in a memory ... The slaughter that insued was so satisfying
KOTN is easily my favourite part of TES IV Oblivion and i think that story of Pelinal Whitestrake is really interesting. IMO that story would be great for a movie.
I was like "these damn crackheads who the hell uploads a video at 5:30am?!?" Then I remember: Australia & Montana are in two wildly different timezones. Sorry Mates/Partners whatever
This is the best story I've heard from tes so far, this is the third time I've listened to it today. My favorite part is when he appears for the first time to the slave rebels in the jungle. His weapons encrusted with Aylid blood, the first time the nedes seen elven blood.
Eh, he sorta loses that title for me when he went after the khajit for literally no reason. If he stuck to butchering high elves, I'd have no issue with him...
One of the most interesting and exciting stories in TES lore. It's very impressive just how deep the lore is and how much of it there is for a fairly conventional RPG. It doesn't seem to be main selling point for the franchise, yet it's still given an incredible amount of attention.
Hey FUDGEMuppet. Here's a video Idea: Has Magic Gone Weaker With Time? I have only played Skyrim and ESO, so I can't speak for other games. But in ESO magic is so stronger compared to Skyrim. And even "Stamina skill" are very magical in nature. Whether it is a critical charge from the great sword, or bow and shield skills. Maybe magic used to be strong back in the days. And civilization has regressed since then. And 4th Era is rather, "PostApocolyptic-esque". Maybe the plane-meld caused the magic to get even stronger than it could have been without it.
@@RKNGL Nah mate. Too late for me to go retro now, I'm afraid. Just hoping they don't fuck up future games. Btw, was magic in oblivion stronger than it is in Skyrim?
@@Brahmdagh I'm currently playing TES IV: Oblivion. The vanilla graphics aren't bad at all. I would even call it the better game of the two in all aspects except graphics, game world and some guild quests. And to answer your question: No, magic in TES IV: Oblivion isn't greater than it is in TES V: Skyrim. .
What can be said though is, that they removed an entire school of magic called Mysticism (which in an in-game book in TES IV: Oblivion is labeled as "not well understood") and jumbled the spells from this school to other schools. Furthermore the list of spells has been shortened and there is no possibility in TES V: Skyrim for the player to create spells of his own.
@@Brahmdagh Well the magic system in Morrowind was far greater than Skyrim; you can do shit like fly and jump the full way across the map in that game if you were skilled enough
Anyone played Vigilant? I know the lore from there. :D Even though this mod for Skyrim takes place in Coldharbour where is a perverted version of all this and inspired by Dark Souls, you get a ton of items and lore from this era of Tamriel. edit: you also play through their memories like as Pelinal fighting through White Tower and slaughtering the army of Meridia, and you meet most of the characters, which is epic.
Marcus Agrippa its a good mod I can’t wait for skyblivion. I honestly think Vigilant is one of the most detailed and crazy versions of elder scrolls, Bethesda would never have the guts to take a darker side in their games.. My favorite part is when Molag Bal ate the traitor of stendar after seducing him to betray his brothers
Clearly, Pelinal Whitestrake is the first recorded instance of a player character in Tamriel.
Well yes
Modder*
you are correct, hes a player from the present going back to play an older game!
@@elitegamer8351 Well. what if... Bethesda makes a spinoff titled,
" Elder scrolls travels: WHITESTRAKE. "
In which it is an offline ES Game that is set in both the future and on the timeline where Players goes on to Pelinal's adventures.
Damn.
If we are to study the way that he is written, then yes, he is a player character. His erratic personality is somewhat mentioned in the books and FudgeMuppet actually talks about it in his vid. That's what tipped me off. If we look at the idea of a "TimeTraveling-Cyborg-Player-Character that becomes a god upon death" we can clearly see that some of the features have already been used in other Bethesda games. A person that travels to the future = Fallout 4, Becoming a god = Oblivion, Cyborg = The Terminator games made by Bethesda in the 90s.
Maybe one of the devs, that worked on some of these projects, though it would be funny to make such a character.
Alessia: "Pelinal you dont have to kill every elf you see! Some elves arent that bad!"
Pelinal: "Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."
Alessia: "...even your name?"
Pelinal: "Especially my name."
Who is Pelinal? All I know is *Elves Slayer.*
😂😂
Glynn Tarrant Praise REMAN!!!!
@@andrewpandrew7786 *PRAISE REMAN!!*
@@GT-wj3gl *PRAISE BE TO REMAN*
Pelinal and Ysgramor would have a great time meeting the modern day Thalmor
"Nice job with dealing with the Thamlor, Pelinal."
"What's a Thalmor? I just heard about a province full of elves and went to say hello."
"..."
"Hey why is your ears pointy?"
The thalmor would shit Their pants
Rip and tear until it is done.
They would have been great friends
@@zackarynigbor7821 *Tullius and Ulfric declare treaty*
- New Anti-Thalmor alliance is formed between them
-Tullius becomes the Emperor
-Ulfric becomes High King
*Ysgramor and Pelial return*
*Thalmor: slowly bends over*
Kills a village: Wait, I don't think those cats were elves.
Pointy ears are pointy ears
Those Khajiit looked really similar to elves
Probably were those mostly human looking khajits with cat like features
Their is an offshoot of khajiit who do resemble elves at first glance.This is probably who he encountered when he attacked Elsewyr.
Khajiit were created from wood elves after all...
its pretty clear he is the avatar of lorkan, think about it, his rage towards elves, his missing heart, his knowledge and timeless nature, the urge to help humans. its pretty clear.
Why is Lorkhan praising Reman? He’s confirmed (around Morrowind time - but it has yet to be retconned) to be a cyborg sent from the time of C0DA.
He doesn’t have a missing heart, he has an artificial heart.
What's C0DA?
Bonefetcher Brimley it’s kirkbride’s writings about the 8th era iirc.
@@OneLastJellyGuy From what I understand in the lore the Shezzarines (Lorkan's mortal incarnations) aren't even aware that they are Lorkhan. Possibly the only one that became self aware of this was possibly Talos/Tiber Septim as he ascended.
OneLastJellyGuy but it wasn’t confirmed that he was a cyborg. it was said by Kirkbride after he had already left Bethesda’s writing team. let’s not forget here that a majority of the lore Kirkbride wrote was dismissed as “Kirkbride’s nonsense” during the development of Morrowind and was intended to be left up to interpretation by the player. it’s far more likely that Pelinal was a Shezzarine; and sure, that doesn’t necessarily exclude him from being a cyborg, but the arm being made of a “Killing Light” could just as easily be interpreted as Aedric Spear from ESO, or a reference to Airgetlám, the silver prosthetic arm of the Celtic god Nuada, and his heart could easily be missing because he’s a Shezzarine (incarnation of Shezzar who is an interpretation of Lorkhan, obviously).
Good heavens would you look at the time. Its kill elves o clock.
By Azura, By Azura, By Azura!
Don't you see? Elven supremacy is the *ONLY* truth!
Is your profile picture William from Underworld lol?
Love it 😂
sup ma werewolf brudda
YSGRAMOR HAS JOINED YOUR PARTY!
@@Julian-vl7vn tell that to elenwen oh wait I forgot the dead can't speak
They should definitely make a spinoff elder scrolls where we play as pelinal, but get this:
*the gameplay is like doom*
I'm down for that!!!
Yes! Just go around with sword shield and mace crushing elf heads in
Oh y e s
I call that perfection
😂 that would be absolutely amazing
Stormcloaks: there is no being in history who hates the elves more than us
Pelinal: hi.
Talos and Ysgramor: Hold our mead
@@erikho6936 You say that like their not the same person.
@@erikho6936 talos didnt hate elves
@@YOGI-kb9tg Yeah... That's why he almost erased the Snow Elves from existance.
@@WookieGroundZero that wasn't talos that was ysgramor talos was 2 eras later when the snow elfs were already presumed to be extinct
Ayleid empire: Exists
Pelinal Whitestrake: It's free real estate
Elven town: Exists
Whitestrake: It's a free firing range.
Eleven town: exist
Pelinal Whitestrake: not anymore
Well technically Khajit "used" to be elves, if you are to believe Azura transformed them.
Yes
Elves exist
Pelinal: well yes. But actually no.
"His destructive ire resonated all the way to the heavens, and Alessia was forced to make sacrifices to the Aedra to keep them from leaving the world in disgust."
Okay now that is some Doomguy level of brutal right there.
Fahri Nugraha the Aedra “leaving the world” would essentially cause them to stop existing, as they are bound to Mundus, yes?
So he nearly drove them to kill them selves in disgust.
Metal AF
States of energy, matter, and space watch a brutality so brutal they are thinking about packing it up and going home. O.o
@@Autipsy Bound to it in the sense they helped create it and watch over it now, but I think that them leaving would have meant they'd cut off ties to helping mortals and would have just sat eternally in Aetherius
I don’t know the source, but the Aedra aren’t even conscious, let alone ready to break apart and leave the world they created. They quite literally ARE the world.
@@OneLastJellyGuy That's more the earth bones, the Aedra that sacrificed their very lives to create the laws of physics essentially in the mortal realm. Some Aedra didn't die during the process and became Elnofey and eventually degenerated into what is now known as Mer or Elves. Some Aedra though kept their divine natures but lost their physical forms. Those Aedra became known as the 8 divines (or 7 depending if you believe Arkay started mortal or not, different sources and lore say different things with Arkay or Orkay as he's sometimes known). So out of the hundreds of Aedra that gave their lives and physical forms to become the world, only 8 of them managed to maintain a portion of their power and consciousness ascending to Aetherius, bringing dead mortals that revere them with them.
That being said elderscrolls lore is a clusterfuck and has contradictions everywhere. Who knows how accurate the above I said is in relation to what the dev's intended.
Elf approaches Alessia
Suddenly a horse drawn cart driven by Pelinal comes from nowhere running the elf over.
Pelinal Looks down at Alessia from the driver seat slinging his Dwarven crossbow his shoulder.
"Come with me if you want to live."
His last words : " I will be back."
"GET IN WERE INVADING THE WHITE GOLD TOWER"
“ put the sweet roll down!”
"GET TO THE FLYING WINGED MAN-BULL!"
Ha, crossbow. His hand's a killing light, remember? The Star-Made Knight had a built-in laser cannon.
When asked what his madness felt like he said "like the dream no longer needs the dreamer"
When asked what it felt like to kill a being with a soul he said "I don't know, I have only killed Mer"
Elves are great!
When they're dead.
_This post was made by the Whitestrake gang._
I'm replaying oblivion and im on the mage guild quest "Vahtacen's secrets," and in a book titled "the wild elves" it says the Aldmer called outsiders "pellani." Did they straight up name their word for "invader" after this guy???
Well I’m sure he invaded many of their chest cavities
netanel mullokandov you can’t invade what doesn’t exist.
I'm pretty sure Pelinal means Star-Made Knight.
Soy elves
Pelinal is a corruption of the elven word Pelin-El, meaning "Star made knight"
After reading all Pelinal's song books:
*Dude this man was a warrior that could make Khorne blush*
SKARBRAND *HATES* PELINAL'S VIOLENT OUTBURSTS!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!1!1
Purge the XENOS
no..
He could make Khorn
*KHUM*
And slaanesh, eldar souls for the kink god.
"In the First Era...in the first battle...when the shadows first lengthened...one stood.
He chose the path of perpetual de-elfing. In his ravenous hatred, he found no peace and with boiling blood he scoured the Heartland, seeking vengeance upon the Elf Kings who had wronged Men.
And those that tasted the bite of his sword (and mace) named him... THE WHITESTRAKE!"
World War I Flying Ace rip and tear intensifies
Ooooo baby give me an Elder Scrolls Doom game please.
[Heavy Metal Riff]
Pelinal Whitestrake says: Elves don't deserve rights.
TheFoggWoggler Gold Lives Don’t Matter.
Don't you see? Elven supremacy is the ONLY truth!
Pelinal Whitestrake is correct. GLORY TO THE EMPIRE!
3d era rolls up.
nobody:
literally no-one:
Pelinal: Gets reborn as Altmer Master Race
@@deptusmechanikus7362 The only good elf is a dead one.
I feel his comment about his rage "when the dream no longer needs its dreamer" may hold more significance to his identity than we think
He's an Avatar of Lorkhan.
@@MHF013 that's not confirmed. I feel it may be someone who has achieved chim or knows of it,
Godhead theory?
@@fireblade-cp8uw I thought so to, good catch
@Boo Hoo chim is literally canon and its also heavily indicated that godhead is canon (read stuff about Lorkhan, Vivec and Dagoth Ur). Bethesda likes mysteries, they don't just flat out reveal stuff.
"Into eighths for they are obsessed with this number." Oh my divines he just referenced the Talos dilemma
Valhallen lol
The main reason that they don’t want talos worshipped is because in TES series it seems that how much power a god has is directly effected by how a god is worshipped and how much a god is worshipped. So if the thalmor can diminish the amount of people who worship him then his power will diminish as well
@@stoicgaardian yep. and talos is the guardian of auri-el/akatosh, who is the god of time. if they can remove talos then they can strike at the god of time, restoring their immortality.
but regarding pelinal, if he was an avatar of lorkhan, it would make even more sense why he would mention their obession with 8. lorkhan was the 9th created not by anui-el, but by sithis.
hes probably also a time traveler since he talked about praising reman, who didnt exist yet. or historical inaccuracy due to time. still badass
@@stuckonaslide time is weird in the elder scrolls. it doesn't flow in a linear manor, but occurs all at once. auriel's job as the god of time is to put it in order. it makes sense as an avatar of a divine, that he would have knowledge of events that haven't happened yet.
My understanding of Pelinal
Before understanding his lore: Super cool divine crusader dude
After: Batshit Insane Genocidal Demigod
Ehhh he has a right to be. I mean if he is in fact the avatar of Shor then I completely understand as the eleven ancestors ripped him apart and threw him away basically. And plus his humans were being enslaved and treated terribly. This made him hate elven kind with a passion.
Well, the elves had enslaved humans and loved torturing them, making them into living furniture through their flesh sculpting and making things like gardens of guts and wailing wheels
@@Stormeris
Sounds very modern,very progressive.
Rip and tear until it is done.
Batshit insane cyborg terminator!
“Gee Uncle Pelinal, what do you wanna do today?”
“THE SAME THING WE DO EVERYDAY MARIHAUS, KILL ELVES”
One thousand, six hundred and ten
Two thousand, six hundred and ten
Three thousand, six hundred and ten...
one million six hundred and ten
two million six hundred and ten
four million six hundred and ten
eight million six hundred and ten
TENMILLONSIXHUNDREDANDTEN
REMAAAAAAAAAAN
GAMERS RISE UP!!!
🎵song endddssss🎵
when your little brother gets acces to your lv 100 account
"Die pointy eared freaks"
No that’s just me on my level 100
I think that Pelinal not having a heart proves that he is a Shezarrine because Lorkhans heart was ripped out and shot into the sea creating the red mountain
Or that he is a time traveling robot
Alessia has seen his heartless chest in a vision. Pelinal may very well had a physical heart. The vision may only imply the nature of his soul, being a splinter of the soul of Lorkhan/Shor/Shezzar. We also can't be sure sure about the accuracy of those accounts as they are, by the time of TES IV: Oblivion, already over 3000 years old. We know that certain parts were lost and have only been recovered from the ruins of the fanatical Alessian Order.
As to why Pelinal hated Elves. Many Elves are disgusted by mortality and seek to destroy Mundus, return it to Aetherius and be turned back into Et'Ada. It's a manichean obsession. Mankar Kamoran, the great antagonist in the main qoest of TES IV: Oblivion was obsessed with the destruction of Mundus.
It's explicitly a matter of debate In Universe - and, according to the Song, was one even when he was still around - whether or not he was a Shezzarine. He personally refused to comment on it, which implies it was probably more complicated than that, but anyone that spoke about it too openly was eaten alive by moths in their sleep, which implies it was either obviously right and he or his greater self felt the need to suppress this knowledge even though it was obvious or so wrong that the world was compelled to punish such blasphemy. The Ayleids definitely thought he was a shezzarine.
i would say he is definitely a shezarrine. this would also be why he laughs at the elves obsession with 8. lorkhan was the 9th that was created by sithis in order to destroy what anui-el had created. as members of the race of man, we should all be saying "hail sithis!" for what is created must eventually be destroyed.
I like to think that Pelinal is what a player character is in his time, there was just never a game made about it. All the Elder Scrolls main characters are kinda time travelling cyborgs. We are their brains with our bodies in Nirn created by technology.
Kinda like overlord if you ask me
Player characters often change the face of a battle alone
Player Character's influencing the world has more to do with the fact that they are an extension of the Godhead or Dreamer, they are the ones dreaming of the world but with a form on Nirn, so the fact they can do whatever the fuck they want is hinted across to that.
More like Neo. The entire Wlderscrolls universe is a simulation in the mind of the Dreamer, who is Todd Howard, and we as player characters have inherent Chim as we know we are in the Dream.
Sasuga pelinal sama!
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead tell me Alice are you the dreamer or simply in someone else’s dream
What tweedle dee said after being asked why should she care about what’s going on if she knows it’s a dream
"Ate his neck veins"
Jesus.
Praise Remaaaaan!
He tore out another person's throat with his teeth.
Nothing less
I presume he removed his helmet to do so. I hope. The alternative is so much worse.
@@ericamborsky3230 reminds me of evangelion and a mech going beserk
"Oops, my bad, sorry"
*pelinal after almost slaughtering the khajiit race*
You mean *Oops , right?
@@feerocomics5082 yeah srry, I'm mexican and in spanish we say Ups instead so its kind if a habit
Hahah
“Sorry, force of habit”
Just saying, Pelinal as a concept is cool and all, but... I mean, seriously? People never look at the atrocities against innocents he committed
I get he's a badass and all, and (most of) the Aylieds were also terrible and brutal, but they weren't all bad, some even helping Allesia, but apparently any acts he committed against innocents and those who tried to surrender would be enough to cause the Aedra to think about leaving Mundus.
Cool concept yes, but people always toss away stuff like his unjust slaughter of innocent Khajit, and never take it seriously. Yet if a certain group of Elves does something bad, then they should automatically get tossed to the chopping block.
Then again, we all have our own Biased opinions on certain matters, so I guess that's why.
"We all make mistakes in the passion of time, jimbo"
11:41 the Aedra almost left in disgust? Wow that's interesting, since they didn't leave when the Nibbonese were being butchered and tortured by the Elves. The Aedra clearly favor certain races over others I see.
There's a difference between secluded horror and a non-stop bloodbath the Divines may not be omniscient.
@@vincegalila7211 lol let's be honest, it wasn't "secluded" whatsoever. How do you seclude an entire civilization that takes delight in torture? Even more so since the slaves would pray to the 9 divines to save them. Furthermore, the divines do likely possess a form of omniscience/omnipresence. We know from the words of Sheogorath that he exists in the hearts of every being.
@@iamdream2562 is it really even possible for a entire civilization to delight in torture? Besides the Alyeids seemingly operated on a system of city states similar to Ancient Greece only unifying during the Rebellion.
@@vincegalila7211 Yes it is, obviously not all the Ayleids were sadistic, not every last elf was evil. What I am saying however, is that the suffering and enslavement of humans was universal among them. It is quite evident that the Aylieds regarded human life with absolute contempt.
@@vincegalila7211 The use of humans as slave labour was a facet of Ayleidoon culture, and clearly the tortures were very commonplace.
Pelinal Whitestrake professional elf slayer, time traveller and Remen praiser at your service.
Scott Dixon I read this with the voice of an imperial guard and it was GREAT.
Which imperial gaurd? Warhammer or elderscrolls
I don't know that much about the Elder Scrolls lore as a whole, but I fell in love with this guy the moment I heard the "like the dream no longer needs its dreamer" line. It just suggests so many otherwise inexpressible ideas through its paradox. It's too deranged to really even describe chim... it's like he's saying he's gonna slaughter those elves whether or not the reality which _contains_ those elves even continues to exist. His rampage sustains its own reality through sheer hatred, in absence of any external logic or universe. I hope Bethesda gave whoever wrote that a raise.
He's basically the Doom Slayer of Elder Scrolls. *ORCHESTRAL METAL INTENSIFIES!!!
Khajiit Have pointy ears
Pelinal: Ah shit here we go again.
Pelinal: close enough!
*AHH YEAH
Technically they're mutated wood elves.
@@GeraltofRivia22 it depends who you ask.
"Dont kill us! we are not mer!"
"Hello, Notmer, im Pelinal!"
We will build a wall around the Cloud District and make the elves pay.
Ysgramor did just that.
Psst, Pelinal; Nazeem's an Umaril-worshipper.
More like build it out of Elven skulls
will they get there very often after that? of course they won’t.
Go back to Hammerfell
Pelinial was the first to do the enchanting-smithing exploit
Pelinal Whitestrake is a very fasinating character with his mysterious origins. Some say he was a time travelling cyborg which I think is pretty out there,even by Elder Scrolls standards. I think him being an avatar of Lorkhan is more likley.
Nonplayer Shezzarine? Cyborg with time travel is more likely considering things like Khajiit "Moon mission"
@@TheArklyte I still hold onto the Shezzarine theory. When did that happen? In ESO? I haven't played it a few months
He's an ada. at least partially divine. He says so himself to Morihaus.
I think he was Shezzar himself, not an avatar or a champion but his hearthless body. Trinimac must've wounded him so badly that he took hundreds of years to recover but when he did oh boy!
That would explain his hatred of elves. Seeing his human "children" so carelessly slaughtered and enslaved would've driven him over the edge.
I feel as if it's being overlooked that Pelinal having no heart is a serious pointer in the direction of Shezzarine, heart-ripped and shot into the sea.
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Not until he's a spin-off protagonist. All nonplayer Shezzarines are sort of "unconfirmed"
TheArklyte I get it’s not 100% but come on we will never get a straight answer more than likely being TES lore. Which is its blessing and curse but you get my point
I think he's Shezzar himself, at least his original body with him being without a hearth and all that jazz
@@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 who's to say that a Shezzarine isn't literally Shezzar incarnated?
REMAN
Two men and an elf walk into a bar. The men are named Pelinal and Ysgrammor.
RIP Elf.
With three beers down, the Nords did frown, and bid the Elf goodbye. For none could know, 'twas not for show, and someone had to die...
FINALLY. a pelinal vid. Everyone's favorite genocidal knight god
Was it chivalry, righteousness, justice, or just revenge. Some don’t see the difference.
I feel as if it were all the above
badassery. pelinal was the player.
Pelinal is a great narrative artifact to help the concept of "the chosen one" that you find in elder scrolls games to fit in nicely moving forward. Sure, you're the hero of kvatch, the dragonborn, or whatever you may call yourself, but rest assured that there were people like you (that weren't player characters) that did things so massive and impressive that shaped the course of history in this world. If you ever thought that the civil war in skyrim going nowhere without your intervention was immersion-breaking, think that perhaps it's part of your character's destiny to make that move forward, and that their legend is still being written.
Last time I was this early, the Ayleid still ruled Cyrodill
deidara _ The Ayelids will always rule Cyrodiil (Made by Mankar Cameron Gang)
Does anyone remember when the Ayleids ruled Cyrodill?
Pepper Ridge Farm remembers
@@baronofbahlingen9662 Imagine being an elf (Made by the Whitestrake gang)
I always interpreted the Song of Pelinal as sort of the Iliad of Tamriel, or Cyrodiil at least. There are obvious parellels between it and the Illiad. Of course the song is far shorter. But the most obvious parallel is Pelinal to Achilles, with invulnerable bodies and powerful rages.
Except he wasn’t invulnerable he just followed the rule of kill before you’re killed until he was killed
@@wintertrooper7918 I mean invulnerable as in no normal person or being could defeat or damage Pelinal. Only Varlians could pierce his armor and his might and power was too great even for the Demigod Umaril.
Pelinal Whitestrake = Medevil Doomguy
Virgin Pelinal vs Chad Doomguy
😂
@@deptusmechanikus7362 nah B
*Medieval
Perfect
I really hope Pelinal comes back and wipes out the Aldemeri Dominion.
Fiend Matador if only him and ysgramor
Reincarnated as the player character in Elder Scrolls 6
He would probably try to wipe out the Dark elves and wood Elves and Kahjit and the Orcs.
Pelinal is from the 5 era, Skyrim is on 4 era....soooo...maybe ? There's hope
@@vincegalila7211 a necessary sacrifice
Pelinal goes on full rampage elf killing sprees like Lancelot in the wedding bit of Monty Python and The Holy Grail.
I wish they would make an Elder Scrolls game where you play as pelinal through the war
Basically just Doom, but instead of demons, you're slaughtering elves.
@@RaunienTheFirst either doom or dynasty warriors, where you roam a battle field, killing handfuls of elves with a single swing of your sword/mace.
yeah they have that its called DOOM. just ignore the guns, and demons, and no gods and not in that universe thing.
Awesome a new video. I was really hoping for this video because I love this character
The BOBBY show Tbs same
Me: *Sees this vid*
*clap*
BOI
Yes.
I can never be grateful enough for all the content and the quality of the videos they make in this chanel. Fudgemuppet gives TES justice.
He's the personification of the quote "There will be a day for mercy, today is not that day"
Listening to a fudge Muppet video then get notification for this fudge Muppet video I love it !!!!
Pelinal Whitestrake: Ghost of Christmas Past From The Future
CYBERNETIC, Ghost of Christmas Past (from the future).
He is the one they fear.
PELINAL. ELVEN SLAYER.
Whitestrake says: “HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN!!!”
And I hear he wasn’t kind to his band mates either.
Whitesnake? 😂
I agree with the other guy pelinal whitestrake sounds like the the Elder Scrolls universes version of Doom Slayer but instead of killing demons he kills elves
I'm amazed Fudgemuppet still continues to share Elderscrolls content. I just cant stop watching.
Baby you look good 😘
Time-travelling cyborg?
More likely, someone used THE elder scroll and pushed him through time.
If the three Nord heroes managed to push Alduin the Worldeater into the future (when the brothers do war on each other, Alduin Will return), then you can be sure THE elder scroll can be used to send Pelinal back through time.
I reckon ES6 will be a Thalmor War and you have to send him back in time like you say.
@@frankwhiteley8801 A Very Good reason to send him back through time.
The real question is...HAVE YOU HEARD OF HIGH ELVES?
Whiterun Guard no, they’re all gone...all gone...
@Roland Deschain There are a LOT of Tamrielic citizens who don't get out much, if at all, whether they want to or not. This applies to our world too. A lifetime ago when I was dragged to Church against my will, our Kenyan immigrant-priest once told us how before leaving Africa outright, he'd never heard of snow, never mind seen it.
High Elves... despite making up--
@@neuxell nah the high elves are the kinda bitches to quote the 13/50 statistic to prove why your gods are wrong.
This question is gonna have a very different implication if Pelinal returns
Finally binge watched the videos you've put out over the last two weeks. Good job on the videos. Be careful though. Don't burn yourselves out.
Pelinal is one of my favorite bits of history in the Elder Scrolls. I was hype to see you made a video on this and it didn't disappoint!
This is absolutely perfectly timed, because I'm working on a mod for skyrim and this lore video is soooooo helpful, thanks fudgemuppet.
Milk-drinkers dissing my boi Pelinal, they get the axe!
khajit didnt diss him
It has pointy ears, must be an elf
Such a great character, monstrous and legendary.
His head lay there and he said, “Tis but a scratch”
"... [And then] Kyne granted Perrif another symbol, a diamond soaked red with the blood of elves, [whose] facets could [un-sector and form] into a man whose every angle could cut her jailers and a name: PELIN-EL [which is] "The Star-Made Knight" [and he] was arrayed in armor [from the future time]. And he walked into the jungles of Cyrod already killing, Morihaus stamping at his side froth-bloody and bellowing from excitement because the Pelinal was come... [and Pelinal] came to Perrif's camp of rebels holding a sword and mace, both encrusted with the smashed viscera of elven faces, feathers and magic beads, which were the markings of the Ayleidoon, stuck to the redness that hung from his weapons, and he lifted them, saying: "These were their eastern chieftains, no longer full of their talking."
---The Song of Pelinal, Vol. 2, On His Coming.
this is a great piece. i’ve listened to it a half dozen times already. More PLEASE!
I know it would be highly unlikely but I think it would be pretty interesting if in a later Elder Scrolls your hero is sent to discover the remains of him from across Cyrodil, and possible other parts of Tamreil, to combat the ever growing plague of the Aldmeri Dominion.
Pelinal is a sort of combination of Achilles and Heracles in real life mythology
For some people it's not mythology; it's religion.
@@Alizudo 2000 years ago, maybe.
@@Nonamearisto
No, it's STILL a religion.
There are people in Greece that still believe in it. Not many, it's only a couple thousand, but they exist.
@@Alizudo That's a new cult loosely based on ancient practice. It's not a continuation of it.
@@Nonamearisto
Many of the members have specifically stated as having grown up in Pagan households. To many of them, this IS IN FACT, a direct continuation of the Old Greek Religion; quietly hiding away as a private, household religion until political reforms in the 80's allowed them to more publicly unionize.
watched this with my cat whom i named pelinal... he approved
His kind was accidentally slaughtered by him 🤭
That's a very ironic name there.
An interesting thing I've always pondered over is Pelinal's reaction to being called Shor incarnate or Shor returned. IIRC he got very angry?
Thank you guys for doing a video on my absolute favorite series character. Nothing compares to his level of badass. REMAN BE PRAISED!
Am i the only one noticing that the blood soaked diamond that Pelinal seems to be a part of, has a striking resemblance to the amulet of kings?
No you are not alone. Have read about him since years ago.
I'm just dipping my toes into the deep lore of the Elder Scrolls and I'm beyond impressed and fascinated by the depths of the stories and lore.
Ysgramor and Pelinal two of the most prolific killers of Elves
along with the yokudans, who sank their whole continent to rid themselves of elves.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 Based
A good elf
*Is a dead a one*
U wot m8??
we need a shadow of Mordor type spinoff game with him
or Doom
every time i hear that oblivion music it pulls at my heart strings
What an incredible story...
This could be a film on its own ❤👀
This is easily the best lore video that you guys have ever done. Fantastic work!
Can we get a lore video explaining the player? Im loving all of these videos back to back btw makes my morning's much more enjoyable. 🙌
Day 7 of asking for a lore video on all the drugs/narcotics of Tamriel
They made one a while back, but it would be nice to see a more in-depth one
@@ragingsodomite9828 thank you I know there's videos out there i want a more in depth one and with more information if possible
@@redwaterskooma4408 For research.... purposes.
Pelinal reminds me of the Eternal Champion from the author Michael Moorcock. Different warriors across different timelines that are all one with eachother.
Just played Vigilant, one of the praised quest mods for Skyrim, and it isent until now I realize that I played as this dude in a memory ... The slaughter that insued was so satisfying
A Space Marine went through the Warp with no Gellar Field; he emerged on Tamriel.
Pelinal: REMAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!
(1K years later) Reman: Sneezes.
KOTN is easily my favourite part of TES IV Oblivion and i think that story of Pelinal Whitestrake is really interesting. IMO that story would be great for a movie.
He's obviously a Mount & Blade player, he even has a great helm and all.
large quantity of butter in his bag aswell?
@@extondude Indubitably
Pelinal Whitestrake: *"I will drink from your skull!"*
Umaril the Unfeathered: *"That's a nice head you have on your shoulders..."*
I was like "these damn crackheads who the hell uploads a video at 5:30am?!?" Then I remember: Australia & Montana are in two wildly different timezones. Sorry Mates/Partners whatever
This is the best story I've heard from tes so far, this is the third time I've listened to it today.
My favorite part is when he appears for the first time to the slave rebels in the jungle. His weapons encrusted with Aylid blood, the first time the nedes seen elven blood.
Pelinal: Shezzar Vult! We will take Cyrodsalem!
Such a badass.. my favorite character in all of the elder scrolls!
Eh, he sorta loses that title for me when he went after the khajit for literally no reason. If he stuck to butchering high elves, I'd have no issue with him...
Ayleids: exist
Pelinal: "I'm about to end this Mers whole career"
One of the most interesting and exciting stories in TES lore. It's very impressive just how deep the lore is and how much of it there is for a fairly conventional RPG. It doesn't seem to be main selling point for the franchise, yet it's still given an incredible amount of attention.
One of my favourite characters in the whole of ES... a knight, a conquerer, a maniacal killer...
You had me at Slayer of Elves
Hey FUDGEMuppet. Here's a video Idea:
Has Magic Gone Weaker With Time?
I have only played Skyrim and ESO, so I can't speak for other games.
But in ESO magic is so stronger compared to Skyrim. And even "Stamina skill" are very magical in nature. Whether it is a critical charge from the great sword, or bow and shield skills.
Maybe magic used to be strong back in the days. And civilization has regressed since then. And 4th Era is rather, "PostApocolyptic-esque".
Maybe the plane-meld caused the magic to get even stronger than it could have been without it.
If you can get into it I recommend Oblivion, the game before Skyrim. As much of this history is from that game.
@@RKNGL
Nah mate.
Too late for me to go retro now, I'm afraid.
Just hoping they don't fuck up future games.
Btw, was magic in oblivion stronger than it is in Skyrim?
@@Brahmdagh I'm currently playing TES IV: Oblivion. The vanilla graphics aren't bad at all. I would even call it the better game of the two in all aspects except graphics, game world and some guild quests. And to answer your question: No, magic in TES IV: Oblivion isn't greater than it is in TES V: Skyrim. .
What can be said though is, that they removed an entire school of magic called Mysticism (which in an in-game book in TES IV: Oblivion is labeled as "not well understood") and jumbled the spells from this school to other schools. Furthermore the list of spells has been shortened and there is no possibility in TES V: Skyrim for the player to create spells of his own.
@@Brahmdagh Well the magic system in Morrowind was far greater than Skyrim; you can do shit like fly and jump the full way across the map in that game if you were skilled enough
Khajit: *have pointy years*
Pelinal: I am fluent in six million ways of kicking your ass
Anyone played Vigilant? I know the lore from there. :D Even though this mod for Skyrim takes place in Coldharbour where is a perverted version of all this and inspired by Dark Souls, you get a ton of items and lore from this era of Tamriel.
edit: you also play through their memories like as Pelinal fighting through White Tower and slaughtering the army of Meridia, and you meet most of the characters, which is epic.
Marcus Agrippa its a good mod I can’t wait for skyblivion. I honestly think Vigilant is one of the most detailed and crazy versions of elder scrolls, Bethesda would never have the guts to take a darker side in their games.. My favorite part is when Molag Bal ate the traitor of stendar after seducing him to betray his brothers
Pelinal is basically: "if god wanted you to live he wouldn't have made me"
But only for elves( most of the time(rip khajiit)).
Pelinal: (Is reincarnated in the Fourth Era, sees the Thalmor)
"TEN MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND TEN"
"TWENTY MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND TEN"