12 Years of Redstone, And I've NEVER Built One of These...
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- That's right, I've never designed a 3x3 piston door in Minecraft before. Please don't take away my redstone card 😭
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:00 What am I doing?
04:20 Closing Sequence
05:36 Join my Discord!
05:58 Opening Sequence
09:46 Floundering
12:02 Accidental Brilliance
13:09 Polishing
15:28 Surrounding Pistons
17:39 Closing Thoughts
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Do this in bedrock edition 😈
@@RRRRREEEEEEE_69_420 same of this pistons is not working Becouse it’s java
@@samosamo9867 well no shit (i have only bedrock edition)
It's pretty amazing to see how redstoners can peak on some aspects of redstone but be very bad in others
“A specialist is a barbarian whose ignorance is not well-rounded.”
- somebody smart
Honestly relatable, I can do logical redstone forever as long as it doesn’t get too compact, but pistons scare me, you show me a double piston extender, my brain shuts off, it reminds me of how I love derivatives and could do them forever, but the second you pull out an integral, my brain shuts off, I think it’s the difference between being able to see the steps that lead up to it versus suddenly being introduced to a mechanic that has bonkers rules that you know why they exist, but not a clue on how to use them due to all the stupid edge cases and such, it’s similar to how two nots in their actual English use because it English actually assumes a third possible state, so it could be that the article is true, but it could also be a weird case in which it’s neither true nor false, and sometimes not just stops working, like in not this nor that being the same with or without the not
@@zix2421”-somebody smart” HAHAHAHA
@@antidreams I don’t know your quotes, I just remembered that there was something like that and googled it)
That's every facet of life. You can be really experienced in one thing, but not experienced in another. And you can learn from others what you yourself are inexperienced in.
this is actually pretty good for a first 3x3, nice job
Dang, high praise coming from the man himself 🙏
True, Mine was 5 wide 😂
@@pedropiata648 mine was so big you could fit 4 of the ones jazzii made there XD
@@pedropiata648 bro mine was like 10-15 wide becouse i didnt really understand redstone
I made mine yesterday and it’s one wide and only 3 seconds to close and open
Its weird how so many people think that a Redstoner should know everything about redstone. But some people specialize in computational redstsone, piston door redstone or combination locks
not really when you realise people expect you to be a hacker when you say you're a programmer. Same things, there's a lot of different branches: Game dev, web dev, AI devs, security devs, ... even within those type you can get people that are good at things and bad at others. For ex you could be good at gameplay dev but bad at communication between servers and clients. Even tho i would say that web devs are generally less competant than others as they rarely need advanced maths or optimisation algorythms unlike game devs and AI devs that need to make sure nothing takes too long to be processed or security devs that i only see as cracks.
@@kiryonnakira7566how dare you say that web devs are less competent?
jk we really are 😅
@@Nenes9500web developers are built different, the shit they do is simple as fuck but the web as a platform tends to suck so much that it makes the easiest shit convoluted 😂
Some do but 90% no
@@nintySW true lol😂
I remember making my first 3x3 (it was on bedrock) and it it so satisfying to see you own door opening and closing!!
Sure is!
I remember trying for two weeks to shave off a couple layers of wiring of a flush 4x4 vault door, finally compacting it was so satisfying
Bedrock😅
Bedrock pistons are annoying and sometimes random if you use a Java build, but if you get it right it’s just that much more satisfying
@@talkingweevil3172 this is really true I'm using mobile version since my pc is not working. I'm working on bamboo farm and got really annoyed on the sweeper part cause I thought java sweeper design would work. Took me 2 days to make it work.
LOVE this style of video. Redstone RUclipsrs never show the development process of their builds. They just present a finished project. This is so cool.
so what i got from this video is that this is literally the same process i go through when trying draw. awesome
Same process for a lot of things
cute pfp ! 💖
@@MarvelousButter owww thanks :D it's a drawing my friend hoshi made of my oc!
for 12:37 - basically when the bottom piston finishes retracting the top one, the top one gets updated and because at that point in time the observer ia powering it, the top piston notices. So if you had the same setup but with more delay on the observer it wouldn't work as when the observer pulsed the top piston would have already been retracted and couldn't be updated to notice the observer (hope you understand)
I vividly remember designing my very own 4x4 piston door. It took me multiple hours over two days. When it finally worked i was overjoyed, even tho it was HUGE, slow and clunky. I just was so proud to do something so complex all by myself with no help at all i showed it off to everyone i knew at that time.
I know the feeling so much man. I work on CPUs. I did my PhD on connecting multiple dies together. There are lots of parts even within that field of interconnects that I don't know much about, and there are whole parts of a modern processor I couldn't begin to design without looking up multiple guides first. People hear that you work in some field or belong to some "skill group" and assume you must know everything about it, but the reality is that almost everyone in those fields is so hyperspecialized that it takes a small army to design anything really complicated.
11:02 yes it always happens the same way in java edition. One good thin on java is that ther is no randomness coming from nowhere when you do redstone.
another reason why bedrock is worse
@@Noteturtle90 One of the many !
On Java there is a tiny bit of randomness in some cases - such as directional update order, but it's mostly deterministic.
On Bedrock some things are random but some random things give the same random order every time...
Java does still have randomness but not in the same ways as bedrock edition. To quote Space Walker, "Bedrock edition is random throughout time while Java is random throughout space." Basically on java edition sometimes a contraption can be "locational" and only work in certain locations. Most of time locationality is caused by weird update order (usually relating to dust.)
@@spitnight4998 Love that quote, thanks!
This is like a car mechanic trying to fix a mountain bike
Having seen your confidence in these contraptions, I'd like to issue a challenge.
A vault style 3x3 that "swings" into the wall.
Pull the 3x3 back, then shift to the side
Then pull back 2x3 and shift to the side
Lastly the 1x3, shift it to the side and the coridoor is open.
Obviously. A much wider contraption. you wont fit this in a 9x3, but it would be a cool mechanism to see in action
It was very fun watching your development process. Great stuff, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Interesting to watch your thought process on how to solve the problem, especially considering piston doors are essentially dark magic blackboxes of compactness from my perspective.
Good job my guy, no-ones a wizz in every aspect of redstone, proud of you and keep it up :D
Jazzi I love you AND this video so much! :D Since I discovered you you've always been someone whose videos I would share with my friends whenever they were struggling with one particular redstone thing or another, and as a redstoner myself it's honestly so true! Sometimes the really simple things end up being the hardest, and I'm glad it's not just me! I've done some pretty complex designs before - my latest creation being a bamboo/sugarcane farm which shuts various parts of itself off and locks all the hoppers when the bulk storage gets full to all but eliminate lag - but I've never made a piston door beyond a 2x2, and never even built a flying machine before :O
This video is so humbling and I love you for it!
Also I'd love to see you tackle a 4x4 door next :D
Thank you! I'm glad this one resonated with you, and I'm also glad I'm not the only experienced redstoner who hasn't done some basic projects 😆
I appreciate the support!
I love seeing you go through the process of learning
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that gets a headache trying to understand double piston extenders.
This is crazy taht, as a not very good redstoner, i can compare myself to your level ! Thank you this make me enjoying a lot this video !
Hey, I just want to say that i watched this video about 1-2 weeks ago and it inspired me to get into redstone. I had always been interested in it, watching videos about it etc, but this jump started my interest in actually trying it. I have now made my own 3x3 and I just finished my own 4x4 as well. Thank you
Actually...this is really amazing! For real
Some would be judging the appearance of the 3×3 door but the whole thing is Just awesome
And ofc it's nuce how you shared us the process, surely you'll get to a better design. Best luck
Awesome video! I think adding a section at the end where you looked at the optimized version and compared it to your version would be a great addition to the video.
Thats what she said
Being updated on retraction because quantim connecticity in Minecraft. The thing which makes piston be able to be powered from 2 blocks away but only sometimes because its powering the piston head when updating the bottom. Its complicated but it works
I thought I was dumb for talking to myself while making my redstone contraptions but now I see that it is pretty common.
Awesome 3x3 btw, better than any I've ever did.
Gratz on your first 3x3! Relying on pure redstone ability without references is definitely a great challenge. A 4x4 is just a bigger 3x3, 5x5s are the real step up >:)
Also, is it just me or is the exposure changing randomly on this video?
Here’s a tip that will save you a lot of pain next time you attempt this: to build the double extender, just place an observer next to the top piston with the output facing up into a floor block. Then place a four-tick repeater under the observer pointing into the bottom piston. Give that repeater a short pulse (four ticks or less), and it’ll go up, grab the middle block, and retract. I’m not sure where I first discovered that design, but it’s tiny, and boy does it work well!
EDIT: WAIT HOLY CRAP I TYPED THAT BEFORE WATCHING THE REST OF THE VIDEO…never mind; you got it!
You got so shy about doing your experiments and talking us through your thoughts but I think that was the best part of the video. It was entertaining but also educational!
very amazing learned new things that i didn't knew before.
I have been wanting to learn redstone for a while but haven’t been able to and this just showed me that even if I have no idea how to it’s still possible with enough time and effort
Next make it Tileable ;) Cool video, you're fun to watch
No Joke I spent 6 hours trial and erroring different tileable design. I was really happy with the end result, but like you said It was disappointing how long it took. it's leaps ahead of my designs from 2020 though (I took a big break)
I love those strugle videos. Im winning with you when you do some step forward.
Please do another video with a 4x4, this was entertaining to watch!!
I personally just did a double piston extender with slime blocks that dropped the blocks at the middle with a t flip flop to make the button that opens it have the 7 outer blocks toggled
Can we have a step by step tutorial on this door?
Also for a challenge, try making a 3x3 on bedrock.
12:38 the repeater on 4 ticks allows the observer to detect it twice, and with some delay. if you were to have any lower tick repeater the observer would detect it twice, but it would be too fast for the piston sequence.
I think I will always remember my designing my first 3x3 piston doors. I mainly play on bedrock, so pistons are not the greatest to work with, but the slower and smoother pistons also make it incredibly satisfying when you perfectly optimize it to go as fast as possible.
As someone who struggled to get three pistons and a lever to work right seeing this sort of thing is like watching a magic trick.
Thanks for the video!
12:30 the piston gets updated when it arrives at the location i think, the same way a piston updates when you place it
This just felt so down to earth, and honestly was a lot of fun to watch, especially as one who sucks at redstone lol
Jazzii slowly becoming a redstone idiot while making a door even after being a master of computational redstoner
Struggling is the fun part, I spend hours making my own designs even when i know there is a better way, fun video!
17:16 Next challenge: 3x3 castle gate 👀? 3x3 fences that you have to get out of the way while keeping the walls and floor flush (full blocks, no fences on the wall/floor surfaces).
I would love to see you reacting to tutorials now to see how the community has streamlined it
I love how you thought one hour was too long meanwhile i couldn't figure this out if you have me the whole day lol nice work
This is a surprising fact, and cool to see someone good at redstone learn new things.
Turned out way better than my first 3x3.... mine wasnt finished at the end because one piston mooved everything somewhere else and after 2 hours i didnt have patience to put everything back :D. Nice work tho
I thought you would react to some 3x3 doors designs at the end hahah nice vid bro!
As your first time building a 3 by 3 it really impressed me that you made it more compact than I did when it was my first time 3 by 3
You know what would be nice in the end?
A comparison between what you brought up yourself and what the MC community has developed over the years.
For example, what might be one of the most effective/fastest 3x3 piston doors.
I was kind of expecting this and got a bit disappointed! :D
It's great being able to see someone think this design out so that the rest of us can learn another way of thinking and even learn a few new techniques as well.
Idk if im good or bad at redstone but i did attempted to do 3x3 door. Trust me ik your struggle. Its good to see there are multiple people that struggle at one thing.
(But i have made some 3x3 doors in bedrock before so its harder for you) respect ❤
ay to be honest i believe his designs has its new perspective truly build from the ground up might be good enough rooms by improve to more compact and efficient, i just cannot wait later soon for someone like purplers will response and help him based on his designs and comes up even a better version
Pretty cool video. I'd still like to see that 4x4 door tho.
Also taking an hour is no reason to be disappointed, an hour is a fairly good time. 3x3 piston doors are pretty abundant but that doesn't mean they're easy to come up with all on your own without refferences.
When I first got into redstone, the first thing I built was an defensive array of dispensers launching arrows, a jeb door and a 3x3 redstone piston door that went to my own version of a desert temple.
NGL, I've been playing since like 2015 and I'm still so impressed by this I'm gonna subscribe👌👍
I was doing redstone for about 2 years, when I realized that 50% of the community is still better than me. So I challenged myself, and built a 3x3 redstone door. Nowhere complex, very slow and takes about 30 seconds to open and 10 seconds to close because of timing problems. Than my friend joined, and wanted to joke with me, he put down a TNT and a flint and steel was in his hands... but his a.. put it ON AND ACTIVATED REDSTONE. So yeah, when that happened I than finally re-did half of it, and I was so happy. And than I tried making a 4x4 and to this day I still can NOT figure it out.
In the closing sequence you can just make all the pistons spits so in can create a sequence 1 2 1, 1 as the piston facings up and 2 as the piston facing left, so when you unpower it it will do first the piston facing up and then the piston facing left the only problem is that the piston facing up will power to times by at least is not messy as your setup
I was able to make a 9x9x1 3 by 3 after a couple hours of trying and I’m proud of it. It was also done on the legacy console edition equivalent to java 1.14
😂❤ love watchn the struggle tho my first redstone experience was piston doors in general usin the old pressure plates and sticky pistons n slime blocks
I devoted all my redstoning to pistons, and it still took 5 hrs for me to build my first 3x3. What genius you are!
The observer double piston extender is interesting. To my knowledge, the bottom piston retracting updates the top piston just in time for the pulse of the repeater turning off to QC power it.
it would be so cool if your were able to put slime on blocks and make them sticky. Kind of like how you can wax copper blocks, there would be so many new possibilities
Ages ago, and now cannot fathom finding it, I saw a FULLY hidden floor staircase. That used stairs. I THINK it was 2 wide. Any tips?
"a rite of passage for every redstoner" now i'm glad my main focus is adventure maps
11:00 Java redstone is not random. The same exact circuit will always have the same exact piston movements. Unlike bedrock edition… (as a bedrock player, I love and also hate bedrock redstone.)
A good thing to know though, is changing any part of the machine could change the order the game processes the pistons. 0 tick machines are based solely on this.
12:16 I had to read the comment of another user (Gekos/Gekoloudios) to finally what I was missing to understand this. Steps with the same number happen at the same time.
1. When you first place down the block, the bottom observer notices and sends a pulse to the repeater.
2. As the repeater is powered, it directly powers the bottom piston which causes it to extend.
2. As the repeater is powered, the observer above it notices (as the bottom piston is extending) and sends a pulse to the block above it.
3. The block above, as it gets powered, powers the upper piston as it's getting in place next to it which causes it to extend.
4. The block then gets unpowered which also unpowers the upper piston which makes it retract the center block.
5. The repeater then unpowers itself because the 4-tick delay runs out and unpowers the bottom piston which causes it to retract the upper piston.
6. As the repeater unpowers itself, the observer above it notices and sends a pulse to the block above it which powers it.
6.5. Just as the bottom piston's "arm" reaches the upper piston, for a fraction of a second (probably 0 tick), the upper piston gets powered by the block next to it, but then immediately gets pulled by the bottom piston before it can do anything which freezes its powered state.
7. As the bottom piston finishes to retract the upper piston, it gets unfrozen in the powered state which causes it to extend.
8. As it becomes extended, it notices that it's not being powered anymore, so it unpowers itself and retracts the center block.
N.B.: I'm not a game physics expert so I may be wrong, but this is how it seems to happen. Please correct me if I'm wrong 😅.
This was actually really enjoyable to watch! Not once did I think "why didn't he do it that way?!"
The idea that all redstoners are good at all redstone is like the idea that there's just a job called "scientist" and they study "science". It was fun watching you try new things!
my first 3x3 was redstoneless above the floor and seamless with the floor, but the redstone was a mess because all i had was repeaters and torches to work with when i made it lol
Good job, mate! I just wish piston doors could be easily utilised in Bedrock Edition!
I always use slime/honey blocks doors. Its super easy to make
This was the most interesting redstone video I've ever watched 😂
cool video bro!
Don't be disappointed in yourself, be proud you made one!!
Me: i want mumbo jumbo,
Mom: we have mumbo jumbo at home
Mumbi jumbo at home:
GG nice work
would've loved to see your reaction to a completely optimized one!
As someone who has literally no clue how most redstone stuff works this was extremely impressive and I have no idea how this works
I knew about the updated block during retraction
Jazziired: “Sticky pistohhh”
French: offensive
I might actually try to make this in my hardcore world
3:53 I might be wromg, but I'm pretty sure you need to bower the piston with qazi connectivity for what you are going for
3:54 oh, nevermind
I love this Videos❤
I forgot you changed your skin
It looks so cool !
Thanks!
I think at the beginning the issue was that when u power a block with redstone (soft power) u can’t power something else than redstone on the other side
Thats why it worked with a comparator(hard power)
Have you seen the "minecraft approved" 3'3 piston door? The trial chambers door is a 1 block layer set up and it's no more complicated than the 2 layer we've been using.
Now you should make a 3x3 flush door
i gave up on redstoning after i couldn't built one myself after a whole day of trying (long ass time ago), glad to see that I didn't struggle for no reason
"Legitimately what is happening?"
This is what programming feels like lol 😂
I've been doing redstone and command blocks for almost 11 years and i dont know how to make one either. Don't worry it's not just you... but it is probably just us two. But now probably just me...
I don't know how to make one without slime and honey too
He looks as awesome as a RED HOTS coffee
That inhale at 4:30 sounded exactly like a creeper. Thanks for the jump scare.
I too have to admit that I've never made a traditional 3x3 piston door. And I consider doors my speciality, lol
Observer is observing the depowering of the repeater
It's basically one by two door but with additional pistons around it
The video is great! Can you also try to build one without using observer?
I remember making a red stone pool all the time way back
16:00 use glass or slabs next time for more compactness