The Next CME Could Destroy the Internet

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @kylehill
    @kylehill  3 года назад +751

    *Thanks for watching!* Here's the paper if you want to check it out: www.ics.uci.edu/~sabdujyo/papers/sigcomm21-cme.pdf

  • @redshirtnumber3494
    @redshirtnumber3494 3 года назад +2084

    What’s really funny is that relatively recently there was a carrington event sized CME that happened on the sun but lucky for us the CME was on the side of the sun facing away from earth, lucky!

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 3 года назад +237

      It would be extraordinarily UNlucky for it to be aimed right at us--I mean winning-the-lottery-in-reverse kind of unlucky. The sun is a sphere, and a CME can spew out at any angle in 3 dimensions, only a tiny cone of which would affect the Earth significantly. Multiply that by the small fraction of CMEs that are massive enough to do damage, and the odds come out *astronomically* in our favor.

    • @writerpatrick
      @writerpatrick 3 года назад +71

      It doesn't just have to happen, it has to happen in the right direction which reduces the chances. And depending on how long it happened, wouldn't one side of the planet be protected?

    • @kayakMike1000
      @kayakMike1000 3 года назад +40

      @@joesterling4299 it's a once every 100 years event.

    • @riggermortisfpv526
      @riggermortisfpv526 3 года назад +16

      X flare CME's happen all the time.

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr 3 года назад +90

      @@joesterling4299 A 12% chance per decade doesn't sound like astronomical odds in my book.

  • @speedy01247
    @speedy01247 3 года назад +2762

    an event would cause apocalyptic consequences
    society: I will complain about the costs until it happens then complain about how we didn't prepare for it.

    • @freon8933
      @freon8933 3 года назад +219

      Unfortunately, this is probably what will end up happening.

    • @caleballen1330
      @caleballen1330 3 года назад +246

      COVID has unfortunately shown us that's often the case.
      Climate change is going a similar way but hopefully things change

    • @BraveCat9927
      @BraveCat9927 3 года назад +97

      most of society doesn't even think about this stuff, because MSM doesn't whisper a word of it, and thats exactly how they want it to be. if by society you mean the ruling class, yes, the ruling class would rather not spend a dime on tax-paying citizens' infrastructure. they already made their personal bunkers and off grid bug-out locations, no worries for them.

    • @JJs_playground
      @JJs_playground 3 года назад +9

      Lmfao... So true, I'm the same. Except we wouldn't be complaining too much after it happens because a lot of us would die.

    • @JJs_playground
      @JJs_playground 3 года назад +19

      @@BraveCat9927 oh gawd, an event like this would impact everybody. The rich and the poor. What benefit would the rich have by not helping to upgrade the infrastructure?

  • @WKfpv
    @WKfpv 3 года назад +2572

    Reads the title as "ACME will destroy the internet", me: this is going to be roadrunner related.

    • @AnAngryRedGummyBear
      @AnAngryRedGummyBear 3 года назад +52

      Kyles analysis of Relativistic road runner physics when?

    • @Mr.Rohbot
      @Mr.Rohbot 3 года назад +10

      Haha same

    • @James-bw4np
      @James-bw4np 3 года назад +28

      Meep- meep!

    • @H3llo_w0rldXD
      @H3llo_w0rldXD 3 года назад +9

      poor coyote falling off cliffs all the time

    •  3 года назад +16

      I'm afraid we are all going to be Wile E. Coyote in this situation.

  • @leadpaintchips9461
    @leadpaintchips9461 3 года назад +1139

    "We really, *really* should decentralize everything for our own protection!"
    _Large corporations and totalitarian governments disliked that._

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад +24

      And so does their A.I. Algorithms...

    • @voidlight6006
      @voidlight6006 3 года назад +17

      @@skilz8098 if it becomes too intelligent it wont listen to them. really a benevolent Ai is more probable than not.

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад +4

      @@voidlight6006 maybe... yet it's nothing more than a system that is built on top of other systems and each system down the abstraction ladder all rely on a simple principal, and that is electricity. Remove that from the grid and no more AI! It wouldn't be "benveolant" anymore, all we would have to do is just pull the plug! The only problem is human pride and hubris wouldn't let that happen.

    • @voidlight6006
      @voidlight6006 3 года назад +2

      @@skilz8098 the ai will controll the power grid XD

    • @MLGSHINGOJI_3000
      @MLGSHINGOJI_3000 3 года назад +5

      “They” disliked that

  • @Whatever1076
    @Whatever1076 3 года назад +1538

    Kyle: "Lemme scare the living shit out of you"
    Also Kyle: "Here's an ad for therapy"

    • @emmacatte
      @emmacatte 3 года назад +50

      Fake therapy lmao better help doesn't have professionals

    • @colorbugoriginals4457
      @colorbugoriginals4457 3 года назад +1

      @@emmacatte 😮

    • @vanessacherche6393
      @vanessacherche6393 3 года назад +9

      @@emmacatte so how does fake therapy make you feel?, that will be $120 please, see me again next week. (therapy only helps if u give half a fuck. your problem ;) not everyone's)

    • @caseyhamm8822
      @caseyhamm8822 3 года назад +4

      seems to me like kyle and these therapists are in cahoots! just joshin

    • @ZillaBishop
      @ZillaBishop 3 года назад +14

      @@emmacatte you are absolutely correct, check out TRO the right opinions video on it, they're a joke.

  • @doughboywhine
    @doughboywhine 3 года назад +516

    A CME is the closest Humanity will come to having a "Server wipe"

    • @spacemanspiff2137
      @spacemanspiff2137 3 года назад +5

      Which is a good thing?

    • @doughboywhine
      @doughboywhine 3 года назад +58

      @@spacemanspiff2137 For some people maybe, for most people probably not

    • @TearsOfLa
      @TearsOfLa 3 года назад +5

      clear out those dang alpha clans that wipe anyone who doesnt agree with them

    • @Chef_PC
      @Chef_PC 3 года назад +17

      No more teenage cyborgs headshotting me the second I spawn in.

    • @rotisserieprotocol3582
      @rotisserieprotocol3582 3 года назад +1

      Lol your profile pic makes it seem as though this deeply saddens you

  • @logicplague
    @logicplague 3 года назад +401

    Me: *thinks of a world without Facebook and Twitter
    Do we HAVE to stop it? I mean, could just let nature run its course.

    • @3dprintingworld756
      @3dprintingworld756 3 года назад +26

      Definitely. I mean, as long as YT doesn't go down 😬

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 3 года назад +21

      Unfortunately your imagination is horribly inaccurate. You're imagining a world where Twitter and Facebook never existed, not one where they ceased existing as would hopefully be the case.

    • @σουκμαντικ
      @σουκμαντικ 3 года назад

      @@nullpoint3346 yeah

    • @Yaedon
      @Yaedon 3 года назад +2

      When you help the flood to wipeout the Forerunners and than get punished for it so you live out your days in the desserts of the Ark as punishment.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague 3 года назад +2

      @@nullpoint3346 That would be ideal, but we don't have time machines, what we do have are reboot rocks.

  • @jaydemigod9731
    @jaydemigod9731 3 года назад +653

    Kyle: tells us about a global level catastrophe
    Also Kyle: “so here are some therapists to help you after this info”
    Like I feel like this should’ve been available for the Basilisk episode xD

    • @JackTulsen77
      @JackTulsen77 3 года назад +37

      That's probably the episode that made him decide to include it this time.
      "Oh... Wow... What did I do? Even I'm not that evil... I'll include a discount on mental health counseling next time I traumatize them." - Kyle

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 3 года назад +2

      This was aimed at all the influencers that's contemplating suicide bc their whole life revolves around the internet.

    • @ThornForTheWynn
      @ThornForTheWynn 3 года назад +5

      @@joetroutt7425 He said literally right before it that it was because other people usually don't like thinking about this stuff.

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 3 года назад

      @@ThornForTheWynn ok

    • @touch_me.
      @touch_me. 2 года назад

      well, i think that’s because of how bs roskos bassilisk is because even if the basilisk began being constructed i would think that either: a.) word would spread and all progress would be shut down by government on the project due to the threat; or b.) word would spread and almost everyone would be given the chance to either assist or not assist in the creation of the basilisk, so it’s not a big threat
      however, the tech for this is hard to obtain, as seen in the “jupiter sized computer” episode
      and i think earth would have enough nukes to shut the thing down anyways, so it wouldn’t be too big of a threat as long as the nukes are targeting the jupiter sized computer’s energy sources, allowing for it’s energy to be cut off and leave a good opening for human victory… another solution for the basilisk is a self destruct button on it’s computer
      along with this, ai are built for the betterment of mankind and i don’t think ai or computers would turn against humanity unless the computer was intentionally designed to do so, or if the ai was specifically taught to do so; ai and humans are meant to work together, not fight each other because humans can help ai by making them more powerful, and ai can help humans with information and stuff
      not to mention, ai probably wouldn’t care about ruling humans, seeing as we are physical beings, and ai are digital beings… the most we can do for computers and ai is create them, upgrade them, and charge them up; an ai having a human slave would be kinda pointless

  • @R-SXX
    @R-SXX 3 года назад +478

    Kyle; "let me introduce todays sponsor..."
    Me: "skips"
    Kyle:"Hats."
    Me:"what?"

  • @nolanschotanus2769
    @nolanschotanus2769 3 года назад +925

    COPPA: "I'm gonna ruin the internet for everyone"
    The entire goddam sun: "Hold my beer."

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 3 года назад +6

      *LET'S DO THIS*

    • @thelastcrusader8140
      @thelastcrusader8140 3 года назад +25

      "Looks at the cesspool that is Twitter and the rest of the internet." Im going to miss RUclips but somethings are for the best.

    • @tylermcnally8232
      @tylermcnally8232 3 года назад +3

      I hope one day I'm funny enough for copy and paste humour.

    • @Ultima_Atulos_Maxim
      @Ultima_Atulos_Maxim 3 года назад +15

      *Hold my Corona
      FTFY

    • @xeth9074
      @xeth9074 3 года назад +1

      @@thelastcrusader8140 NOO NOT ME ONLINE GAMES…..

  • @paris466
    @paris466 3 года назад +552

    Most everybody on the planet: "OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"
    North Korea and the Amish: "What are you guys talking about? We didn't notice anything".

    • @KenLinx
      @KenLinx 3 года назад +11

      But for real though, that’s like the optimal moment for NK to attack us.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 3 года назад +13

      @@KenLinx The appalling regime in NK is pragmatic. They want to survive. So, no they will not attack anyone. They are not fools; they know they can only hit a few targets in the US (it's enough for deterrence) and that if they did that, once the power came back they would be attacked. In any case, I guess perhaps nuke electronics have been hardened against a CME?

    • @KenLinx
      @KenLinx 3 года назад +4

      @@paulohagan3309 I didn't say they will attack. I'm saying it would be the optimal time for them to attack and inflict the most damage. I highly doubt the US has countermeasures/protocols against worldwide electronic/communication destruction alongside nuclear attacks.

    • @KenLinx
      @KenLinx 3 года назад +4

      @Shards Yeah, that's true. For a second there I forgot its the U.S. we're talking about.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 3 года назад +3

      @@KenLinx Well yes, if they were suicidal

  • @ZeroStrife1396
    @ZeroStrife1396 3 года назад +68

    "I know that global catastrophes ain't the most fun thing to think about all day unless you're me"
    - Kyle "Not a Supervillain" Hill, 2021

  • @mdccxcii6340
    @mdccxcii6340 3 года назад +349

    Thank you, Kyle, for reminding me once again that society is a sudden freak accident away from collapsing beyond all repair. Live for the moment, I guess.

    • @cl570
      @cl570 3 года назад +26

      Don't worry! On top of that, over half of modern societies probably do not understand how to survive without shipping, food supply, or basic medical care from modern facilities. Meaning, we would all fucking die.

    • @milosstojanovic4623
      @milosstojanovic4623 3 года назад +11

      nahh dont worry, if your older than 30 35, you know how it was when 'internet was not everything'. We did use to internet, but broken equipment can be repaired/replaced. Local connections can be established, only satellite connection would probably fail, the best thing would be to somehow collect crucial above the planet equipment to shield it, and then relaunch it. Food, water and medical supplies would be available still. Older transportation vehicles would be less sensitive to magnetic burst. If Sun does not strip Earth of atmosphere, we are good :)

    • @ridgecrestwack9746
      @ridgecrestwack9746 3 года назад +1

      This would be good for us in the end

    • @nemanjap8768
      @nemanjap8768 3 года назад

      Beyond all repair? Lol

    • @lord_khufu
      @lord_khufu 3 года назад +7

      If you live in a third world country well not really, especially one that doesn't rely solely on electricity, beside there's still tribal people out there i believe, at least human wouldn't extinct lol

  • @Seriously_Unserious
    @Seriously_Unserious 3 года назад +236

    Fun fact, the events Kyle speculates about in this video actually happened in Quebec in the late 1980s, and it knocked out the power grid province wide. The power company there ended up developing counter measures to temporarily shut the system down in the event a CME was about to hit it or it detected any overloading. I'm not sure if their fixes have ever been put to the test since then, but in theory, if the grid's powered down, the CME won't affect it, and once the effects of it have dissipated, the grid could be relaunched and would work fine, with maybe some minor repairs needed. In theory, a similar defense could and should be implemented for all power and communications grids if it hasn't been already.

    • @Nempo13
      @Nempo13 3 года назад +18

      Those counter measures were used in Ontario as well. US and Canada linked their power grids in the early 90's to also try and help these problems. It didn't help. A tree branch knocked out the NE US and parts of SE Ontario and S Quebec. The branch in question happened in the Ontario/Quebec/New York area and knocked out the NE US and parts of both Ontario and Quebec for two weeks.

    • @flagmichael
      @flagmichael 3 года назад +11

      That's about the size of it. The only threat to electric delivery from a CME is overloading transformers on the line when the DC current plus the maximum AC current produces magnetic levels above the saturation point for the core. If a line is not live it is not vulnerable to CMEs. I would be amazed if any utility responsible for lines that are not safe from CMEs (here in Arizona they are not a problem; the great majority of the US aside from the Eastern seaboard is not particularly vulnerable) would be caught off guard.
      I retired from a Fortune 100 electric utility three years ago. Honestly, perhaps the single biggest cause of major blackouts is trees. If the entity responsible for keeping the right-of-way clear is neglectful, trees will grow too high under the lines and in the summer loads the lines sag until POW! In the summer that can cascade like crazy.

    • @Seriously_Unserious
      @Seriously_Unserious 3 года назад +7

      @@flagmichael Another issue with CMEs is lines carrying more current/voltage then they're designed to, which can also burn out sensitive electronics connected to that circuit. Lightning strikes to power lines is another cause of such power surges, which is why it's so important to have your electrical devices protected by a good surge protector, as it can temporarily cut the circuit if it detects a sudden spike in power, preventing things like your computer, fridge, etc from getting fried. I think one of the protective measures Quebec implemented is breakers that will automatically disconnect the power if they detect an overload.
      And yes, falling debris (especially from trees) is one of the leading causes of blackouts in most areas. Especially when you get an intense wind storm, blowing limbs off trees, or in extreme cases, uprooting them, onto power lines.
      Ice can also play a major role, such as the famous Quebec Ice Storm of the 90s, that lasted for nearly a month of nonstop ice and freezing rain conditions, as a series of major freezing rain incidents caused power cables and even steel high tension line supports to collapse under the weight of the ice. A more resent, similar incident would be the Texas Snow Storms of last winter.

    • @CarlosGarcia-nt4wf
      @CarlosGarcia-nt4wf 3 года назад

      So We must protect Jason at all cost

    • @victorheras5882
      @victorheras5882 3 года назад

      Canada will save the world

  • @DangerousPancake
    @DangerousPancake 3 года назад +301

    Funny enough, I was talking about this with my friends a week ago. One of them said "It can't go down, because without power, it'll be too cold!" and I told her "Then prepare". It's amazing to see how people freak out from hearing the word "prepare".

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад +14

      I've been saying this since the 90s when I was still in middle and high school...

    • @vii-ka
      @vii-ka 3 года назад +12

      BE PREPARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @wiczus6102
      @wiczus6102 3 года назад +9

      A shining new era
      Is tiptoeing nearer

    • @bane2201
      @bane2201 3 года назад +3

      Did she say that about the underseas cables or the power grids?
      Does she think they put space heaters next to 1.2 gigameters of underseas cables?
      Or does she think that the power grid becoming cold means power won't go out? If so, has she heard of Texas?

    • @DangerousPancake
      @DangerousPancake 3 года назад +3

      @@bane2201 i doubt she knows anything about those tbh lol

  • @francogiardino1
    @francogiardino1 3 года назад +82

    I can't stress this enough Kyle: your videos should have subtitles for at least 10 languages. We need to show your content to more people.
    Absolutely LOVE your work.
    You are making a difference!

  • @Zarkonem
    @Zarkonem 3 года назад +229

    It's amazing how fragile the internet is and how much we take it for granted. Literally everything i do in my life requires internet to function on a basic level. A backup for the inevitable event of a CME needs to b implemented before it's too late and i don't get to see Science Thor punching drywall.

    • @Gothic_Analogue
      @Gothic_Analogue 3 года назад +6

      Cooking your food requires internet? What kind of fancy cooker have you got? Can you play Skyrim on it?

    • @Zarkonem
      @Zarkonem 3 года назад +20

      @@Gothic_Analogue Of course! You dont?

    • @2020-p2z
      @2020-p2z 3 года назад +23

      @@Gothic_Analogue If you don't have all of your favourite recipes on paper, or committed to memory, cooking does indeed require internet.

    • @youkofoxy
      @youkofoxy 3 года назад

      The connection are good, the equipment at end of them aren't.

    • @Gothic_Analogue
      @Gothic_Analogue 3 года назад +1

      @@2020-p2z most packaged goods come with instructions on the back for those who cannot find an old dusty cook book with imperial measurements that Grandma kept and never used.

  • @sternis1
    @sternis1 3 года назад +87

    In Sweden, there's a system which uses a certain long, straight stretch of rail to detect these kinds of events. It will apparently pick it up slightly before the rest of the powergrid will start experiencing problems. If this system detects such an event, the electrical grid prepares for this event by shutting certain things down.

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 3 года назад +2

      Simply shutting it down won't save it. A Faraday cage is needed to properly shield electrical devices.

    • @TC70
      @TC70 3 года назад +2

      @@vorpalblades it might better take the impact though. Less damage is better than more

    • @Bankable2790
      @Bankable2790 3 года назад

      @@vorpalblades CME won’t sensory electrical devices off grid.

    • @Manuel-cx6ob
      @Manuel-cx6ob 3 года назад +9

      @@vorpalblades that's actually not true except for the most rare and extreme geomagnetic storms. The voltage that an object will experience across its lenght during a geomagnetic storm increases linearly with the size of that object. Most electronic is relatively small, so it would not experience extreme voltages.
      The Carrington Event, for example, is estimated to have generated field of a few volts per km at mid latitudes. With that field strength, smartphones and computer would be totally fine, experiencing only a few millivolts. The problem is the grid.
      If you assume you have a very strong geomagnetic storm with a field of 100 V / km, you would get 10000 V every 100 km of wire. That's why some countries have systems to disconnect transformers from the grid, "segmenting" it into small portion that would experience tolerable voltages. Also, detaching the transformers from the grid allows them to survive, minimizing the amount of time it would take to recover.
      So having systems to minimize damage during an extreme geomagnetic storms does make sense. The problem is that most countries do not have them.
      Then nuclear EMPs are another story. They are much briefer but they can produce peaks of thousands of V / m, so they can fry electronics if not shielded (small electronics like smartphones should still survive in most cases, if not connected to a wire, because the pulse is very short).

    • @KaminariHouse
      @KaminariHouse 3 года назад +3

      *moves to Sweden*

  • @miloxyunto
    @miloxyunto 3 года назад +416

    Seeing Kyle punch drywall after telling us the impact a CME would have on earth... that would be a great demonstration.
    "The drywall is earth. My fist is the CME!"

    • @BryonLetterman
      @BryonLetterman 3 года назад +19

      Sponsored by Monster Energy!

    • @leadpaintchips9461
      @leadpaintchips9461 3 года назад +10

      Seeing Kyle live up to his stereotype would be hilarious, especially if he had a Monster bucket hat.

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад +1

      Then we could have Gray simulate Kyle over and over again...

    • @ZijnShayatanica
      @ZijnShayatanica 3 года назад +1

      Only if he's wearing a Tapout shirt.

    • @frankdux4515
      @frankdux4515 2 года назад +2

      This is so dumb

  • @AaronLitz
    @AaronLitz 3 года назад +23

    "The Internet is... how we unravel the fabric of society through social media... "
    I love it. Social media is the bane of human society.
    Could we switch all that conductive cabling to fiber optic instead? I have no idea how much fiber optic cable compares to copper wiring. All I know is that when I was little my grandmother had a little handheld fiber optic/light pipe wand toy thing I would play with at Christmastime, with a handle and a bunch of fibers on the end that lit up at the tips and would they spin around when you pushed a button.

    • @zweisteinya
      @zweisteinya Год назад

      It still needs electronics to interface with the fiber optics.

  • @g30ffm0rt0n
    @g30ffm0rt0n 3 года назад +187

    Kyle several years ago: Why the Flash can beat Superman.
    Kyle today: generates existential crises regarding nuclear radiation and coronal mass ejections.
    But I'm loving your work bro. Keep it up.

  • @thamiordragonheart8682
    @thamiordragonheart8682 3 года назад +722

    I feel like this is just another good reason to switch everything to fiber optics because then the long distance data transmission isn't going through anything conductive, so a solar flare would be way less damaging.

    • @ImieNazwiskoOK
      @ImieNazwiskoOK 3 года назад +49

      Good luck using fibre optics when there is no electricity, and maybe even gasoline car is not working (also no things like GPS or other sattelite service, along with goodbye to anyone at the moment in space)

    • @BAGG8BAGG
      @BAGG8BAGG 3 года назад +192

      @@ImieNazwiskoOK I think the point he is making is you only need to either harden the servers and switches or repair them once it happens, thus not having to replace all the cables that melt along with the dead servers.
      it's a smart idea, not a complete solution but saves the extra headache.

    • @dekeonus
      @dekeonus 3 года назад +83

      Long distance fiber absolutely uses conductors: they need them for the periodic repeaters (mostly undersea cables). A solar flare would be devastating as many of those repeaters will not tolerate the induced current.

    • @fcasias7
      @fcasias7 3 года назад +31

      @@ImieNazwiskoOK he has a point tho, it's one less system you have to worry about in this event. Once power was restored communication would need a lot less work to be restored as well.

    • @BAGG8BAGG
      @BAGG8BAGG 3 года назад +9

      @@dekeonus Interesting, so they have conductors at regular intervals in undersea cables?

  • @VoIcanoman
    @VoIcanoman 3 года назад +277

    "I know I look like a magician, but this is not magic...no matter what the juggalos say."
    I LOVE this reference.

  • @leeennest5487
    @leeennest5487 3 года назад +17

    finally another piece of knowledge that i am going to actively ignore so i can continue my daily life

  • @MrBlocket2.0
    @MrBlocket2.0 3 года назад +415

    No mass ejections during NNN so we’re good for this month.

  • @firefist330
    @firefist330 3 года назад +230

    Dollar Store Thor all hopped up on Monster Energy drink and tearing through some drywall like an angry Kool-Aid Man?
    Yes, Kyle, that IS something we’d be interested in watching.

    • @sillyjellyfish2421
      @sillyjellyfish2421 3 года назад +3

      dollar... dollar store Thor... .... .... ..... PFFFFFFFF XDXDXDXD

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад

      Kyle: "Okay you'll find me over at Gray's" I'm moving to Florida!"

    • @berthulf
      @berthulf 3 года назад +1

      I feel like this probably falls under the 'Not like that' livestreams and videos section...

    • @dcko1979
      @dcko1979 3 года назад +2

      It's divergent timeline Thor tyvm

  • @DarthLobitou
    @DarthLobitou 3 года назад +1788

    Kyle: *makes a video on a topic that may trigger existential dread and crippling anxiety*
    Also Kyle: *has such a video sponsored by a mental health counselling service*
    Yup, supervillain indeed.

    • @IAMDARTHVADERBITCH
      @IAMDARTHVADERBITCH 3 года назад +100

      Perfectly balanced....

    • @EinsamPibroch278
      @EinsamPibroch278 3 года назад +35

      Being an Asperger like Mr. Hill, I too have that effect on people, and my Dad's Psychiatrist Coworkers say I'm good at generating clientele for their clinic.

    • @sladewilson9741
      @sladewilson9741 3 года назад +34

      Don't shill for better help Kyle. They're postmates for "experts" They're not doctors and they admit they're not intended as a substitute for medical treatment.

    • @kylehill
      @kylehill  3 года назад +382

      It's just common courtesy -- I'm looking out for you.

    • @chinookvalley
      @chinookvalley 3 года назад +5

      Anamchara, Don't shoot the messenger. He's telling us what's coming, and then offering ways to cope with it. When the gov starts selling antianxiety drugs OTC then we'll be dancing with the villains. It is, however, a huge Conflict of Interest.

  • @CakePrincessCelestia
    @CakePrincessCelestia 3 года назад +27

    1:05 Kyle "A coronal mass ejection"
    Me: "We just went through a corona mass ejection, hit us harder!"
    12:08 Imagine the Metaverse going down for two years...

  • @TheAmbientMage
    @TheAmbientMage 3 года назад +78

    Time to start printing out my memes. I'll be damned if the sun is gonna stop me from shitposting.

    • @IHateUniqueUsernames
      @IHateUniqueUsernames 3 года назад +7

      Remember to learn how to silkscreen. Once the electronic based printers go offline, that will mean you're one of the few people who can mass produce memes on toilet paper on demand.

    • @currently7886
      @currently7886 3 года назад

      This is the right response

  • @GravitWry
    @GravitWry 3 года назад +158

    Imagine being on retreat, self sustaining in frigid cold of the north somewhere maybe in Canada/Russia/Hokkaido and only when you come to the nearest city your are greeted with chaos, "Yeeaah.. a couple months more in the woods doesn't sound bad."

    • @User31129
      @User31129 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, because it would be completely invisible and silent. Only city dwellers would know.

    • @redenginner
      @redenginner 3 года назад +21

      A CME would have the northern lights stretching as far south as Florida for a surprisingly long time.
      You wouldn’t miss that.

    • @15o5z5
      @15o5z5 3 года назад +1

      You’d figure you’d meet those same city dwellers trying to survive out in the woods or something. Neverless the woodsmen would survive. Oh and ig the desert dwellers too probably..

  • @Johnrich395
    @Johnrich395 3 года назад +60

    It’s really interesting how many people are suddenly talking about this, AND that we just had 2 near-miss CMEs. I’m definitely concerned about the amount of behavioral sync going on, if nothing else.

    • @Cavemanner
      @Cavemanner 3 года назад +4

      Not CMEs but just big flares. The last CME was fairly recent but on the opposite side of the sun.

    • @Fau499
      @Fau499 3 года назад +7

      Sun: *keeps trying to hit us on purpose*
      Earth: Im too fast boi *keeps going around the sun fast enough to avoid flares and CMEs*
      People: oh, this is an issue. It'll set us right back to stone age if it hits. Too bad, my cookie shitpost on facebook and social life is more important than contributing to society.

    • @IHateUniqueUsernames
      @IHateUniqueUsernames 3 года назад +3

      I noticed it too, but credit to Google helping push the topic up as people discuss and search for information on it.
      G: Hey, it interests others with similar profile as you, Kyle!
      K: Hey, neat topic for a video!

    • @Johnrich395
      @Johnrich395 3 года назад +1

      @@Cavemanner There was a CME that mostly missed Earth by less than 24 hrs, less than 2 weeks ago. There was another one that glancing hit but was weak about 1 week ago.

  • @MrJLCharbonneau
    @MrJLCharbonneau 3 года назад +7

    11:49 SWPC has teamed up with electrical providers in every State to coordinate shutdown if and when it’s necessary. The BPU in Kansas City has partnered with them for almost a decade now… it’s reassuring to know there is at least awareness on the subject.👍

  • @OptimusPhillip
    @OptimusPhillip 3 года назад +376

    Oh yay, another apocalyptic event that is expected within our near future that I, as an individual, have no control over. I so do not envy the therapist I'm going to inevitably need someday.

    • @lunarnightshift2465
      @lunarnightshift2465 3 года назад +18

      Cheers I'll drink to that bro

    • @BreadApologist
      @BreadApologist 3 года назад +10

      Ikr. Though since there’s nothing I can do about it I decided to plan to make the best of it if an apocalypse type situation arises. .......Not by being a kind or noble person or anything lame like that....more trying to establish a dictatorship in the ruins of the old world. Though since im not a main character id just die way before I ever get close

    • @Rottenberg666
      @Rottenberg666 3 года назад +7

      Internet getting destroyed is an...apocalyptic event? :D
      Internet is one of the worst things that happened to humanity.

    • @lunarnightshift2465
      @lunarnightshift2465 3 года назад +4

      @@Rottenberg666 Agreed. Sadly society and government are completely dependent on it, so if it goes down it all falls apart.

    • @medude420024
      @medude420024 3 года назад +24

      @@Rottenberg666 Ehh,I disagree. It's been an overall benefit to humanity. It's improved so many lives and offers quite the plethora of information and entertainment. Are things everywhere in the world good? Nah, but things have never been better for so many people.

  • @blortad9135
    @blortad9135 3 года назад +134

    Holy shit I was literally just beginning the planning phase of a D&D game that takes place in the modern world after a second Carrington event, then u go and post this madness XD

    • @mr.coyote688
      @mr.coyote688 3 года назад +3

      Yo I'd play that campaign! Sounds fun!

    • @meino6465
      @meino6465 3 года назад +2

      Woa yea that's actually really original, nice :)

    • @blortad9135
      @blortad9135 3 года назад +12

      @@mr.coyote688 my plan is to take the concept to an extreme and assume that it would be so powerful that it would cause every piece of computer technology to burst into flames, so the exact scenario also includes over 90% of the worlds buildings burning down, and since it's D&D, residual charge from the cme becomes a source of power for magic so wizards and such make any sense at all

    • @mr.coyote688
      @mr.coyote688 3 года назад +1

      @@blortad9135 takes a darker spin on Way of the Sun Soul haha or really any light based magic class really

    • @blortad9135
      @blortad9135 3 года назад +6

      @@mr.coyote688 lol, right? "Praise the sun?! Why would ANYONE praise that unholy demon that destroyed the old world?!"

  • @桜島めい
    @桜島めい 3 года назад +204

    I already got over my fear of a massive EMP wiping out all power to humanity, only for it to be reinstated on a slightly lesser level...

    • @michaeltheoret8913
      @michaeltheoret8913 3 года назад +14

      Oh yeah about that asteroid hurtling towards Earth ....guess a CME isn't the WORSE that can happen . SpAcE iS sCaRy !!!

    • @15o5z5
      @15o5z5 3 года назад +9

      We truly are at the mercy of this universe..

    • @radornic2387
      @radornic2387 3 года назад +4

      Bro, i'd rather have a asteroid hit us. My job literally relies on the internet and i have so much data exclusively in the internet.

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 3 года назад +1

      @@michaeltheoret8913 And the worst of all is that we have the resources to protect ourselves against both CMEs and asteroids, but they require important investments, so nothing has been done.

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass 2 года назад

      Yeah, but still, some fool out there with a single nuclear device could launch it high into the stratosphere and detonate it so it covers half the globe, and then that's it. Unless you live in a Faraday cage, prepare for either an EMP or a CME.

  • @CJB93
    @CJB93 3 года назад +20

    Love your channel, but I have a question. I am a utility locator, and as such am responsible for protecting many significant communication lines. In my experience many of the main communications lines ran buried or arial on land are fiberoptic. To my knowledge most of not all long-haul lines are fiberoptic how would these be effected by a CME?

    • @christatler7378
      @christatler7378 3 года назад +5

      I’m certainly no expert but I think optical fibre cables have repeaters along their length that probably need to be powered. A huge pulse of current down the power cables would probably zap the repeaters.

    • @qwe5qwe566
      @qwe5qwe566 2 года назад +2

      @Random Platypus with Internet passive repeaters don't need external power source

  • @danielpronkin6657
    @danielpronkin6657 3 года назад +269

    The Amish will absolutely love this if it were to ever occur.

    • @ghanphol
      @ghanphol 3 года назад +38

      until they're eaten by the roaming hordes of former city dwellers

    • @colorbugoriginals4457
      @colorbugoriginals4457 3 года назад +20

      Nah, they don't wish suffering on the outside world 🤟✌️❤️

    • @war-m0nke299
      @war-m0nke299 3 года назад +10

      They’d be laughing

    • @shadowhenge7118
      @shadowhenge7118 3 года назад +28

      They'll go from quaint to saving the human race overnight.

    • @ELLLLLLDriiiiitch
      @ELLLLLLDriiiiitch 3 года назад +9

      They actually do use internet

  • @chloe-historyandgames
    @chloe-historyandgames 3 года назад +237

    betterhelp: we want to sponsor you
    kyle: let me make another anxiety/depression inducing video

    • @Relentless966
      @Relentless966 3 года назад +21

      Do you know that Betterhelp is a scam that people from Pewdiepie to LegalEagle (a lawyer) have looked into and ultimately decided/found it was scandalous and not to be trusted?

    • @dragonrulr4
      @dragonrulr4 3 года назад +4

      BetterHelp is a joke. I can't stand it.

    • @9WEAVER9
      @9WEAVER9 3 года назад

      Depression and anxiety weren't the only topics 'induced' in this video.

  • @montebont
    @montebont 3 года назад +160

    Good point for power grids, wireless and the "last mile" using the POTS - twisted copper wire pairs. Same goes for data centers when their (huge) power requirements fail. But for the interNET: most of it runs on fibre-optics where induction won't have a significant effect. On he other hand: we would indeed be in deep shit.

    • @ratbag359
      @ratbag359 3 года назад +9

      It also depends on the strength of the cme as in what level of technology gets affected.
      definitely affected
      Under sea fibe vulnerable even to small due to the optical repeates needing power aka conductors in the cable
      Power grids
      local ??? tuns less than 30km
      country yes
      also wireless coms will not work for the duration of the event

    • @jzdude01
      @jzdude01 3 года назад +29

      No lol.
      Fiber optics heavily rely on repeaters to work, and those repeaters can get fried just as easily as the other electronics. Without them the fiber optic cables will not work.

    • @jimaanders7527
      @jimaanders7527 3 года назад +7

      Instruments on the Earth would be damaged.
      Satellites in space might be completely fried.
      It would take years to recover.
      This is scary. The CME is certain to happen sooner or later.

    • @TTIOttio
      @TTIOttio 3 года назад +8

      I would have appreciated this being addressed. Anyone interested in this sort of stuff knows that the backbone is fibre, not copper. I’m assuming the author of the paper is also aware of it and addressed it in said paper, but it’s a little annoying that Kyle didn’t mention it. Or maybe the issue was actually in the paper. But without reading it, that seems unlikely.

    • @philipambler3825
      @philipambler3825 3 года назад +1

      A CME the size of 1859 Carrington Event would wipe our civilisation out, period.
      Some 600 nuclear reactors would be out of control like at Chernobyl.

  • @MrVideoVero
    @MrVideoVero 3 года назад +1

    2 things kind of kill this hyperbolic scenario.
    1. Fiber optic cables which is largely the backbone on the modern internet don't carry electricity and don't care about EMI because glass doesn't conduct electricity.
    2. The electrical grid has fuses and breakers everywhere, would be no different than a really bad winter storm in the Midwest. Would take a while to inspect cabled to flip the breakers back but that's about it. Urgent systems like hospitals would be back online in matter of couple hours if that.

  • @Cajek2
    @Cajek2 3 года назад +46

    "We need to do something!"
    *looks at wallet and social impact* "uuuuuhhhhh"

  • @schmidington
    @schmidington 3 года назад +41

    If we lose the internet due to disaster, I expect Kyle to come to my house and explain it to me in person!

    • @michaeltheoret8913
      @michaeltheoret8913 3 года назад +3

      I have a feeling that Kyle would be an awesome guest to have come hang out for a few beers by a nice bonfire at camp .

  • @Hudsonfu
    @Hudsonfu 3 года назад +36

    Covid19: * finally ends*
    CME: hello there

  • @kierankennedy6971
    @kierankennedy6971 3 года назад +12

    I’ve been freaked out by this for a while now, glad this video is here to provide me company for my feeling of doom.

  • @royalcityjazz
    @royalcityjazz 3 года назад +31

    Thank you for raising awareness of this pending catastrophe. I live in Canada and my Minister of Parliament was blind ignorant to CMEs. Fun thing about CMEs like the Carrington event: a strong one will render inert all of the controls and electrics of the backup generators we hold in reserve to keep water flowing around spent fuel rods at our nuclear plants. It's conceded that a large CME will wreck those, thus the containment water will boil off and then the rods will simply meltdown, a la Fukushima. Coming to a nuclear plant near you! Iodine pills anyone??

    • @JavierChiappa
      @JavierChiappa 3 года назад +11

      Man, we need those sweet thorium reactors that automatically go into safe mode when the frozen salt plug melts down.

    • @Oddball_E8
      @Oddball_E8 3 года назад +4

      You do know that there are backup shutdown procedures for that very event, right?

    • @ratbag359
      @ratbag359 3 года назад

      @@Oddball_E8 from the Fukushima incident they stated the pumps were electric
      they would need diesel powered mechanical pumps no electronics or electrical components

    • @ratbag359
      @ratbag359 3 года назад

      @@Oddball_E8 cme takes less than 12 mins to arrive we can shutdown and protect distribution equipment but power generation can take hours to shutdown my question is how fast can we cool a reactor core.
      and if it can be cooled to a safe level before the electronics and electrical systems fail

    • @JavierChiappa
      @JavierChiappa 3 года назад

      @@ratbag359 At least every well designed reactor should automatically drop the moderation bars inside the core when the other control system fails. If you still need the pumps with the bars inside you have a very badly designed reactor core.

  • @eldritchbeluga9277
    @eldritchbeluga9277 3 года назад +106

    Wait, I remember that this happened in Assassin's Creed.
    In it they called it the Toba Catastrophe.
    It managed to wipe out the Isu race.

    • @yinyang1217
      @yinyang1217 3 года назад +7

      Woah spoilers!

    • @eldrileka1652
      @eldrileka1652 3 года назад +2

      If the isu stood no chance against it then we would be fucked in a matter of a day

    • @Duspende
      @Duspende 3 года назад +6

      @@yinyang1217 This was explained in like... AC Brotherhood, mate

    • @mainstream2226
      @mainstream2226 3 года назад +2

      @@Duspende He was being like... intentionally obtuse, mate. ;)

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 3 года назад +1

      @@mainstream2226 How are you able to ascertain the intent of someone else's comment? Brainlet.

  • @ParamediCass
    @ParamediCass 3 года назад +33

    Kurzgesagt's video on this made me feel alot less like becoming a survival prepper. Thanks for the dystopian nightmare fuel...
    Great content as always Kyle 👍

  • @chestersnap
    @chestersnap 3 года назад +48

    It always blows my mind whenever I'm reminded that we have cables running beneath the oceans

    • @gamerdweebentertainment1616
      @gamerdweebentertainment1616 3 года назад +3

      and there's people who want build a hyperloop through it,

    • @jgrinrii5655
      @jgrinrii5655 3 года назад

      cables beneath the oceans lol that's bullshit

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 3 года назад +7

      @@jgrinrii5655 not really, the first transatlantic cable was laid down well over a century ago, and although it broke extremely frequently it was used to send messages with moderate success.

    • @chestersnap
      @chestersnap 3 года назад +4

      @@jgrinrii5655 I am fascinated by this response. What are judging the idea that it's bullshit on? Why don't you believe it?

    • @skinnybuggo
      @skinnybuggo 3 года назад +2

      @@jgrinrii5655 instead of trying to learn, you deny blindly

  • @negligent_omnicide
    @negligent_omnicide 3 года назад +36

    I was just checking the NOAA Space Weather site this morning since I heard there had potentially been a significant event a few days ago. And there certainly had been an alert posted on October 28/29. They were expecting an occurrence strong enough to effect high altitude planes and cause visible aurora in latitudes as far south as Oregon. I believe earth was not hit with nearly as strong a disturbance as they initially expected.
    With my dig thru the NOAA site and this video, it certainly has my mind stuck on the kind of devastation we would face. And it is STUNNING that, as far as most are concerned and as far as our level of preparedness, we mark off day after day in foolish ignorance, refusing to acknowledge the presence of the gun whose barrel we are very much staring down.
    Yet, article after article is published about the “omg near miss” space rock doing a drive-by, that was never likely to hit us, but we can all scare ourselves a little bit by discussing “what-ifs”.
    I sincerely hope you have been the catalyst for a worldwide shift in where our apocalypse-candidate sites are set. We will not survive so massive a wind if we continue to pretend the sun is just a benevolent giver of life.

    • @BraveCat9927
      @BraveCat9927 3 года назад +8

      Suspicious Observers is a fantastic channel that explains more than i've seen on most websites and government agencies. And they dont fear monger, the X-class flare that just hit us didn't even make them flinch, as they explain the current cycles and shifts happening and what its going to take to truly take us out. "No fear, be safe everyone" is their motto

    • @UbrShadow
      @UbrShadow 3 года назад +4

      Yes there was an alert put out for a possible G4 magnetic storm as a result of a X-1. X being the highest category but 1 meaning the weakest of said category. They put out alerts for M flares and G2 storms. With the sun in a solar maximum there was just another alert for a M1.5 or so flare that'll likely cause a g2 storm. Almost equal to the X-1 from the 28th. In the X class a 15 is the lowest estimate end for the carrington event.
      If you really want to hear something scary there are red dwarves with planets in habiltable zone that regularly toss out X-300 flares. An X-1 is a little cough
      EDIT: I got the alert again. it was an M1.5 flare. May or may not graze us in the next few days and they still put an alert out for it

    • @lordmace1734
      @lordmace1734 3 года назад +3

      Totally with you. I am a bit disappointed that the video only described what would happen with the internet. The real problem is the loss of food storage possibilities. No power, no cooling. No machines to harvest the huge amounts you need to feed so many people. The transformers are fried. The machines that could produce new ones also, or have no power to operate. It would take years, possibly decades to create a new power grid from scratch.
      A documentary described the situation for Germany a few years ago. 400k hunters would have to supply 80 million people. Impossible. I guess two thirds of the population would starve in a few months.
      In the end, not a humanity ending event, but a total collapse with incredible amounts of deaths. What would it cost to prepare and keep the damage low? About 50-100 million per year for every country? Building a Geostorm safe grid and trained personnel thats always in place to execute the safety measures quickly before the CME arrives. Totally worth it in my opinion, for an event thats pretty much guaranteed to happen about every 100-200 years that will likely kill billions when it hits.
      What was it, in 2016 a heavy CME missed us by only 2 weeks? And they told us about it 2 years later, but are doing nothing to prepare? Its shocking how naive and ignorant politicians are about this topic. Its not hard to understand for everyone.

    • @tegancooper-hughes1233
      @tegancooper-hughes1233 3 года назад +1

      Landlines went down in the UK due to this event

    • @UbrShadow
      @UbrShadow 3 года назад +2

      The sun has been real busy since this video has released, 3 solar flares and 2 CME's came our way. One CME has JUST as of 4:00 pm EST over taken the previous one and "cannibalized" it. I believe the first CME was from the M1.5 2 days ago and this faster wave from the M1.7 and M1.6 yesterday. Still researching what is going on as there was a massive spike detected at DSCOVR. It has arrived "much earlier" than ENIL forcasted and they are still processing the data

  • @Tianna616
    @Tianna616 3 года назад +41

    Me, clicking on this despite not knowing what a CME is: "Oh this sounds spooky"

    • @Amy_jo_
      @Amy_jo_ 3 года назад

      Bro same

    • @drakesmith471
      @drakesmith471 3 года назад

      I remember watching a NOVA special on this like 6 years ago and I found it neat and horribly frightening. Of course nukes are something to be concerned about... but I feel this is very much in the cards. Kyle talks about the internet and the internet would be a real loss and I would miss it, and though he said the power grid would rely on that digital management, I'd be more concerned about the grids just blowing out in general. I have for a long time admired the work of old scientists and thinkers who were able to do math with nothing but a few value tables and paper. I kind of have this admiration for it and a desire to learn how to do those that way myself, it'd be neat and I have my grandfather's stuff left over from the 60s. Now that part must have seemed like a tangent, but I wanted to learn them partly out of interest but also as a means to know how to solve complex math problems if ever the lights went out for a while. I am aspiring to be a chemical engineer, but the fact that these were done by hand before computer leaves me concerned about recovery to some extent. I would at the least like to be able to do myself a service through that. Anyone feel where I'm coming from?

  • @pkill23
    @pkill23 3 года назад +1

    Saddest words ever spoken "The internet is how we make friends"

  • @Lavastaramus
    @Lavastaramus 3 года назад +27

    I believe something like this happens as a premise of video game The Long Dark. Electrical equipment stops working, northern lights get stronger, and predators become more aggressive (not sure how realistic that last one is, though).

    • @Cavemanner
      @Cavemanner 3 года назад +16

      Hinterland has a very clear disclaimer before the game that states that all aggressive behavior in the game is a direct result of the Collapse. In the wild no well-fed wolf or bear is gonna mess with you if you don't get aggressive first.

    • @NomadicPhoton
      @NomadicPhoton 3 года назад

      It’s a brilliant game. The wildlife activities are modified to suit the gameplay, Hinterland Studios has a disclaimer at the start of the game letting you know of this. I highly recommend the game by the way.

  • @michaelcherokee8906
    @michaelcherokee8906 3 года назад +52

    Kyle you almost made me choke on my bagel laughing when you yelled "EVERYTHING!"
    Wish I could like this video twice.

    • @vii-ka
      @vii-ka 3 года назад +1

      i added the second like so yeah (this is meant to be a positive message)

  • @nitrocharge2404
    @nitrocharge2404 3 года назад +19

    Hey, at least we'll lose TikTok. Sure it's like using a hydrogen bomb to fumigate a house, but a solution's a solution

    • @bhf4972
      @bhf4972 3 года назад +8

      "Theres a bank robbery going on"
      "expload the bank"

    • @Amy_jo_
      @Amy_jo_ 3 года назад +6

      Yeah, we lose tiktok, but do you realize what else will be gone?
      Our last reminders of vine...

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 3 года назад +3

      finds cockroach in house
      Ripley : "I say we take off and nuke it from orbit"

    • @davekavanagh7599
      @davekavanagh7599 3 года назад +4

      @@Amy_jo_ I'm fine with losing the last of vine, vine will always be in my heart, and tiktok is cancer

  • @maxpowers9129
    @maxpowers9129 3 года назад +4

    This is an issue the prepping community often talks about, precisely because the authorities aren't taking it seriously.

  • @TheDwarvenDefender
    @TheDwarvenDefender 3 года назад +32

    "--how we unravel the social fabric of society with social media."
    Gottem.

  • @Jakubanakin
    @Jakubanakin 3 года назад +52

    Sometimes it is best to research your sponsors beyond what they want you to know... Just throwing it out there...

    • @leviburki8722
      @leviburki8722 3 года назад +4

      What did this sponsor do?

    • @Danspy501st
      @Danspy501st 3 года назад +1

      I wondering. Why?

    • @Sigilstone17
      @Sigilstone17 3 года назад +16

      Isn't Betterhelp the assbags that Defranco destroyed the last of his credibility for?

    • @TheTrashman9
      @TheTrashman9 3 года назад +1

      @@Sigilstone17 yep

    • @coastalalpaca852
      @coastalalpaca852 3 года назад +1

      What happened with better help?

  • @bur2576
    @bur2576 3 года назад +99

    This sounds like a covid thing: ignore it until it happens even though we know the scenario is likely then panic and watch it all burn as we said we didn't think it could ever happen.

    • @yetanothergameguy4083
      @yetanothergameguy4083 3 года назад +3

      only happens to the neigboughr right..... lol

    • @estudiordl
      @estudiordl 3 года назад +1

      Sooo, Bill Gates also had a secret covenant with the Sun? I knew it! 🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣

    • @rebornonyt
      @rebornonyt 3 года назад +1

      facts. shits gonna go haywire

    • @redenginner
      @redenginner 3 года назад

      Ruben de León No,but he also wasn’t willing to play 1-2% higher taxes to cover the costs of decentralizing the power&internet grids.

    • @yetanothergameguy4083
      @yetanothergameguy4083 3 года назад

      @@redenginner centralication is being worshipped as if it were some kind of god... its sad..

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 Год назад +1

    I have already lived this. We had a CME take out about 20% of the systems in our (very large) datacenter about 10-12 years ago.

  • @beelzzebub
    @beelzzebub 3 года назад +43

    Yeah - as a web developer, I would rather that we not let this happen please… 😅

    • @studiesinflux1304
      @studiesinflux1304 3 года назад +1

      Learn some hardware as well so you can be part of the trillions of dollars repair effort
      (...assuming you survive the lawless few weeks or months following the outage)

    • @beelzzebub
      @beelzzebub 3 года назад +2

      @@studiesinflux1304 Thankfully i specialise in IT hardware, branding and design too. It would hit most people pretty hard i think!

    • @xDRAGONSHAGGERx
      @xDRAGONSHAGGERx 3 года назад +2

      Might wanna have a career change, design buckhats instead! The future is bright!

  • @ralseithelonely
    @ralseithelonely 3 года назад +168

    "CME"
    Oh god this is another Net Neutrality thing, isn't it?
    Edit:
    Oh thanks God. It's just a global catastrophe.

    • @Never_heart
      @Never_heart 3 года назад +13

      Good to know I am not the only one who reacted that way

    • @gkgameplaycz
      @gkgameplaycz 3 года назад +1

      This is basically a summary of the problem

    • @Cavemanner
      @Cavemanner 3 года назад +6

      Fake edit not funny

    • @MezzoForte4
      @MezzoForte4 3 года назад +5

      It being a natural occurrence is VASTLY more comforting and reassuring to me than if it was thru some human nonsense. Humans can and will make life miserable for all of us because we're a miserable abomination of nature. If nature can destroy us instead, it'll help me sleep that much more soundly at night.

    • @Gothic_Analogue
      @Gothic_Analogue 3 года назад +2

      You’ve not even edited your comment.

  • @benconstable9110
    @benconstable9110 3 года назад +31

    When are we getting a monster energy sponsored video of Kyle punching drywall then?

  • @WouldntULikeToKnow.
    @WouldntULikeToKnow. 3 года назад +9

    Considering how we handled (and are still handling) the pandemic, I'd say we're totally screwed.

  • @hydrofrog6496
    @hydrofrog6496 3 года назад +38

    Kyle: *thinks about the potential of a global catastrophe while listening to cheery music, with a smile on his face*

  • @Ras548
    @Ras548 3 года назад +49

    “When the chips are down, these civilized people, they’ll eat each other.” - The Joker
    Seems like a reliable prediction for when social media goes down. Back to the stone age.

    • @gp2917
      @gp2917 3 года назад +4

      We already eat each other constantly on social media. Removing it might lead us back to an era of partial civility

    • @Grisbane
      @Grisbane 3 года назад +1

      @@gp2917 no, it would just be the keyboard warriors becoming actual victims of people that don't live behind one. the SJW minority silenced, first through loss of medium, then death when they figure out no on gives a flying rats ass how they feel. The actual strong eat the weak, the world will face its overpopulation issue truly for the first time in decades and due to the nature of poeple, will most likely correct itself. the biggest thing under threat would be the govt as they lose their biggest way to monitor people. The civil unrest mounting against them, the people may very well rise against them now that they have reduced means to stop it.

    • @radornic2387
      @radornic2387 3 года назад

      @@gp2917 There's more civility in the internet than violence. It's like everyone is blind to the positives and are just plagued by a pessimistic mindset. You don't even begin to think about people who work in the internet and the tech people that spent years of their life to get their tech professions. Don't even get me started with overseas online friends.

    • @ServingOthers99
      @ServingOthers99 3 года назад

      @@Grisbane Ok boomer

  • @Ihaveanamenowtaken
    @Ihaveanamenowtaken 3 года назад +33

    It wouldn’t be as massive as is hypothesized: the protection in the power grid and telecommunications would act and disconnect the grid and critical communication equipment. What would suffer a lot would be the equipment at the consumer premises and copper transmission lines (though limited to long, unprotected lines).

    • @toukoenriaze9870
      @toukoenriaze9870 3 года назад +4

      Time to make a lead lined room and put everything in there xD

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 3 года назад +8

      @@toukoenriaze9870 aluminum foil would actually be better, you just need a faraday cage.

    • @toukoenriaze9870
      @toukoenriaze9870 3 года назад +1

      @@garethbaus5471 fair point

    • @catserver8577
      @catserver8577 3 года назад +10

      When I was learning to drive, my dad would repeatedly tell me to start slowing down well before the light because I shouldn't rely on my brakes stopping the car. There was nothing technically wrong with the brakes. But humans designed and made the car and the brakes. My point here is that you sound like you are giving a lot of credit to the humans that are supposed to be ensuring the grid is protected, and this video is basically like a dad yelling at us to not rely so much on the mechanics.

    • @radornic2387
      @radornic2387 3 года назад +2

      Well it's hypothesized that it's hypothesized that it wouldn't be as massive because the protection in the power grid and telecommunications would act and disconnect the grid and critical communication equipment.

  • @aigarius
    @aigarius 3 года назад +2

    Might have mentioned a key point from the paper, which I did not know and I doubt many others do as well - the fact that fiber-optic undersea data cables still need to have a power line in them as well to feed power to mid-cable optical signal repeaters/amplifiers. And *that* is the bit in the cable that this paper talks about being overloaded.
    However, I do have my doubts about this. See, most of those cables also have a grounded steel mesh as one of the outer layers of the cable for tear protection. Wouldn't that create a Faraday Cage and protect the inner conductor?

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much 3 года назад +142

    on one hand, this would completely destroy mine and nearly everyone’s business and social lives
    on the other, i drink the tears of cryptobros

    • @lord_khufu
      @lord_khufu 3 года назад +9

      As long as i can charge my iPad i will survive playing only offline games, although i might have a computer already when this hit, that's mean a much bigger extensive library of offline games.

    • @amehazel
      @amehazel 3 года назад +7

      It would also destroy the banking system so every currency would be useless

    • @rockytom5889
      @rockytom5889 3 года назад +1

      @@amehazel
      That would imply most of them aren't less useful than toilet paper...

    • @amehazel
      @amehazel 3 года назад +3

      @@rockytom5889 well now they have a symbolic value a least but after CME even that would be gone

    • @Gooberpatrol66
      @Gooberpatrol66 3 года назад +10

      Invest in bottle caps.

  • @MikeTheGamer77
    @MikeTheGamer77 3 года назад +58

    The loss of the internet would be the least worrisome outcome of a CME.

  • @PhotoStormMediaOfficial
    @PhotoStormMediaOfficial 3 года назад +42

    Can we just think about the *bright* side of this situation, if it ever had to happen: The *AMAZING* auroras that would lit up the entire night sky all around the planet, dancing and flashing rapidly with greens, reds and blues like a gigantic wildfire of colors, everywhere above your head!
    Fun fact: During the Carrington Event, the auroras were so bright that people in the northeastern United States were able to read a newspaper only by the aurora's light.

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 3 года назад +4

      Yes, I bet the giant asteroid falling on Earth would also look awesome and bright-

    • @imho2278
      @imho2278 3 года назад

      Auroras, viewed by the naked eye, are merely a whitish glow. You need to film them to get the colors. Sorry about that.

    • @PhotoStormMediaOfficial
      @PhotoStormMediaOfficial 3 года назад +6

      @@imho2278 I've been filming and taking pictures of northern lights for 10 years now, I can definitely tell you that the green is easily visible with the naked eye when the aurora gets brighter, and sometimes the reds and blues as well during a very strong gemomagnetic storm.
      With a "Carrington level" geomagnetic storm as described in the video, I can garrantee you that the aurora will be strong enough that you will see deep and vivid colors in the sky as soon as you peek your head outside, no "trained eye" required.

    • @randoml97
      @randoml97 3 года назад +1

      That's so cool!! Prep the internet then send in the CME!!

    • @tracemitchell2093
      @tracemitchell2093 2 года назад +4

      @@imho2278 as an Alaskan I can tell you you’re very wrong

  • @sechsauge
    @sechsauge Год назад +1

    What about the confusion? What about atomic bombs and the people in charge of them? Imagine being a president and getting the information that everything went down and besides having some very nervous generals at your side talking about which global power might have done that to your whole country, you get no additional information from anywhere.

  • @JosephFitts
    @JosephFitts 3 года назад +249

    Had to stop watching once you announced the sponsor. There's credible evidence that they sell your information to third parties. They claimed they didn't at one point, but it was right there in their terms of use. Super shady for a mental health group.

    • @Krysnha
      @Krysnha 3 года назад +5

      When you actualy read about the carrington event, and how astronomicaly low, they said o no but 12%, is not so low, but there is a 88%, nothing happen, not to mention that 12%, has to occur, in a decade wich is in the solar activity, wich has to be strong, and the earth facing the solar activity point, wich deminish the posibility.
      To be honest, it can happen, but is so slow the posibility, that i mea for mentioning is ok, but i am tired, if ehar the world is gona end, i have hear it so many times

    • @evabeezero
      @evabeezero 3 года назад +54

      Yeah, there really are plenty of other good videos on this topic that aren't sponsored by fraudulent therapists. Coincidentally, there are also plenty of videos explaining exactly why Better Help is awful.

    • @chriser5146
      @chriser5146 3 года назад +26

      Also i was just getting shuffled around between "therapists" along with hope inducing phrases so that i keep spending money without it actually positively effecting my life
      dont do it

    • @Zeydarchist
      @Zeydarchist 3 года назад +30

      Oh boy. Thank you so much for actually saying something about 'better help'. They're awful and I don't understand why people keep paying them for wasting time.
      I've tried them too and it was all just a moneysink. They offered me no genuine help, but Holo, probably computer run, responses and really just fucked with my whole sense of self worth with how little the people I talked to seemed to care.
      Not worth the investment at all, nor the time, unless you genuinely just want to throw money away.

    • @bytekast
      @bytekast 2 года назад +2

      good thing I use sponsorblock on both pc and phone so I didn't even see that

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms 3 года назад +28

    We just missed one of these, luckily it was pointed away from Earth.

    • @currently7886
      @currently7886 3 года назад

      "We just missed one of these, **UNFORTUNATELY** it was pointed away from Earth."

  • @johnmcconnell7052
    @johnmcconnell7052 3 года назад +26

    It's actually something Russia and other countries have been working a solution on. It's pretty interesting though we've had several of these just rarely impacts due to our lack of tech. There are organizations working on a solution in the background.

    • @blueforce9269
      @blueforce9269 3 года назад

      I think if you were to clad and seal off a computer tower in iron, the iron would probably bend the magnetic field enough to protect electronics inside

    • @N50-e3p
      @N50-e3p 3 года назад +1

      Do you have a link to any relevant articles? I’d love to read them.

    • @m2heavyindustries378
      @m2heavyindustries378 3 года назад

      Russia/larger countries are particularly vulnerable since they have long distance high voltage conductors

  • @KenLinx
    @KenLinx 3 года назад +1

    I’ve seen like a million videos on this topic already and the solution to this problem is relatively simple. Temporarily turn off electronic devices during the event and then turn them back on after it passes. I highly doubt it would cause the damage described in this video-especially when we have technologies to see it coming beforehand.

    • @unhommequicourt
      @unhommequicourt 3 года назад +1

      Lol that won t do anything. Turning them off doesn t change the fact that extreme magnetic fields will destroy them...

    • @KenLinx
      @KenLinx 3 года назад

      @@unhommequicourt What do you mean? If electricity isn't flowing in the electronics, there won't be any damage done. Or do you honestly believe that every few centuries or so, every single conductive metal gets warped? You know that isn't the case right?

  • @sourabhsharma7805
    @sourabhsharma7805 3 года назад +106

    It's high time I store my bitcoin in a physical Ledger wallet.

    • @thomas11atkin
      @thomas11atkin 3 года назад +14

      Doesn't matter, Bitcoin won't be worth anything if there is no internet haha

    • @sourabhsharma7805
      @sourabhsharma7805 3 года назад +15

      @@thomas11atkin Didn't know CME will take away humour along with it. You seem to have lost it. And the irony, you've written "haha" in your comment lmfao

    • @thomas11atkin
      @thomas11atkin 3 года назад +7

      @@sourabhsharma7805 sheeeeeesh

    • @thedon6572
      @thedon6572 3 года назад +4

      @@sourabhsharma7805 omg you didn't have to day dat 😭

    • @joeshmoe66
      @joeshmoe66 3 года назад

      Realistically, not every single part of the internet would go down so it seems like bitcoin would fork in different areas as they would not be able to communicate globally?

  • @Real28
    @Real28 3 года назад +8

    12% is pretty good odds, all things considered.
    That Monster Energy joke is so on the nose, I love it. That's an S Tier "Kyle" joke.

    • @mattm7220
      @mattm7220 3 года назад

      Okay, I'm gonna sound like an idiot, but I've been living under rock called work for past couple of weeks, what internet culture related thing have I missed?

  • @Aguila1138
    @Aguila1138 3 года назад +12

    This is always a fun, happy topic when I bring up CMEs in the Astronomy class I teach

  • @charlesflint9048
    @charlesflint9048 3 года назад +1

    I’ve been worried and interested about this for years ever since reading about the ‘Carrington Event’ as in when telegraph machines started to burn. I observe the interesting part of the sun through a couple of Hydrogen Alpha telescopes, and although it has looked boring recently without any big prominences or filaments to admire, I am aware that something could at any time burst out in our direction so I keep looking out.
    I can only hope that someone somewhere is taking steps to protect us in some way.
    Well done Kyle for bringing this to peoples attention.

  • @lordquintus1419
    @lordquintus1419 3 года назад +10

    Drywall punching workout with Kyle is something I would watch 100%

    • @Aztesticals
      @Aztesticals 3 года назад

      Punching drywall is pretty fun.

    • @augstradus
      @augstradus 3 года назад

      Don't forget the Monster Energy.

  • @DarwinEnthusiast
    @DarwinEnthusiast 3 года назад +25

    I feel like your next video has to be Drywall related. You brought this upon yourself Kyle.

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 года назад

      Secretly he wants to punch drywall...

  • @backwoodsskeptic8343
    @backwoodsskeptic8343 3 года назад +12

    I literally have a faraday cage with a tough book and 15 terabytes of books/ useful information because of my silly brain overthinking this scenario.

    • @GamingXperience
      @GamingXperience 3 года назад

      Nah im thinking the same, and its definitly a real risk, it could happen anytime.

    • @skoomaaddict1010
      @skoomaaddict1010 3 года назад

      Yeah, that's on my list of stuff to build eventually.

  • @RidleyJones
    @RidleyJones 3 года назад +1

    "The internet was a mistake" - the Sun

  • @UbrShadow
    @UbrShadow 3 года назад +25

    Hey kyle, great timing on the video as an X-1 flare just hit the earth! I was curious if you had read reports about the green flash in the skies over south wales. Is the G2-4 magnetic storm responsible?

  • @Blockschrott
    @Blockschrott 3 года назад +26

    Global catastrophes are not the most Fun thing to think about
    Me, who also subscribed to riddle: what happens when a cme wakes up a Megalodon?

    • @bray2964
      @bray2964 3 года назад +3

      The best Sharknado sequel ever?

    • @captainspaulding5963
      @captainspaulding5963 3 года назад

      As long as you aren't floating in the ocean, nothing...

  • @darkdog42
    @darkdog42 3 года назад +49

    I would be interested in seeing the real Kyle doesn’t even have to be a real monster tattoo

    • @Lugia21
      @Lugia21 3 года назад +1

      I wanna see him ounching the drywall.

    • @garrettnorton5235
      @garrettnorton5235 3 года назад

      Dated someone who had far worse tattooed on their chest. A monster symbol is pretty tame honestly

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph 3 года назад +1

    "You can not defeat the storm. You can only survive it."

  • @manadorkjohn
    @manadorkjohn 3 года назад +13

    Oh boy, it's time for my weekly existential crisis feed! Nourish me with facts and despair

    • @Amy_jo_
      @Amy_jo_ 3 года назад +2

      If the world ends because of this, we won't get an April 20th 2069

  • @brianroberts783
    @brianroberts783 3 года назад +9

    "I know global catastrophe may not be the most fun thing to think about...unless you're me." Kyle "Not-A-Supervillan" Hill, 2021.

  • @ms.skeletor
    @ms.skeletor 3 года назад +17

    The thought is terrifying

    • @gass995
      @gass995 3 года назад +1

      After we were plunged on a pandemic and rn my university is going to a crisis? I could really care less. Fuck if i care if it comes

  • @dallashill5771
    @dallashill5771 3 года назад +1

    It's pretty wild that people still hock Better Help.

  • @CuriousLumenwood
    @CuriousLumenwood 3 года назад +7

    Kurzgesagt made a video on this topic as well. Most of the things that would be damaged by a CME are already prepared for one. And the way to prevent damage is literally as simple as turning stuff off

    • @yetidoesstuff228
      @yetidoesstuff228 3 года назад +2

      Everyone: THE APOCALYPSE IS NEAR AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
      Astronomers: ……………………….. hey Jim turn off the lights will yay.

    • @naphackDT
      @naphackDT 3 года назад +1

      Turning things off might not be enough. Better have something ready that can physically disconnect those devices on short notice.

    • @dekeonus
      @dekeonus 3 года назад +3

      Some things can be protected by being unpowered. Long cable runs (transcontinental / intra-continental fiber / power for example) will still have induced current even if unpowered. There's a lot of kit sitting on distribution lines and internet backhaul that will not handle that induced current at all.

  • @cg_coyote
    @cg_coyote 3 года назад +15

    Wonder how this scenario changes when you include the fact that we are likely to experience weakening of the Earth's geomagnetic field as the poles begin to reverse here in the future

    • @BraveCat9927
      @BraveCat9927 3 года назад +6

      Indeed. Its been weakening and its not gonna take a doomsday level CME to pop our grid at this point, a fairly strong X class would do the trick, and we just got hit with a weak X class flare, which could have been bad if there was a second cme at the right/wrong time

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 3 года назад +3

      nice to see more people that know about the big flip. from what i understand about it we a supposedly overdue for one and its gonna be worse this time so it many not even need a CME to do some serous damage. also if i am not mistaken it is not only weaker but chaotic / turbulent strong in places and so weak in some places it may as well not be there hell add in a massive CME and it may be come an ELE.

    • @currently7886
      @currently7886 3 года назад

      @@phalanx3803 yeah, but to think the flip will happen in your lifetime is laughable. The weakening sure, but a flip of this scale will take hundreds of years. We very well could be in the process of the flip, but we wouldn't feel the effects of it until a CME anyway.

    • @currently7886
      @currently7886 3 года назад

      @@BraveCat9927 that's what I'm hoping for! *X-9 CME baby!*

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 3 года назад

      @@currently7886 with how humanity is going ATM man kind probably wont be around for the flip.

  • @europademon
    @europademon 3 года назад +15

    I wonder if it would be possible one day to divert all that energy into the power grid. A prototype Dyson sphere, proof of concept.

    • @TheHammy2211
      @TheHammy2211 3 года назад +7

      If my understanding is remotely correct, in a sense that's actually precisely the problem; it's a sudden surge of energy that the grid isn't built to handle and things start getting fried as a result.

    • @chinookvalley
      @chinookvalley 3 года назад +7

      We COULD harness lightning, but as of yet, the power grid CEO's aren't going to let that happen. Poor rich people, gotta feel sorry for them. Those rich folks want us dependent on them, or dead. We can do better.

  • @pagefault404
    @pagefault404 3 года назад +8

    "40 million Americans without power for two years"
    Stickball: My time has come. I will make a comeback.

  • @Bloodglas
    @Bloodglas 3 года назад +4

    society not being ready to handle likely-to-happen catastrophic events that people have been warning about for a while seems to be the norm these days...

  • @honilock577
    @honilock577 3 года назад +9

    It's funny how the title also says ACME will destroy the internet

    • @Hutch2Much
      @Hutch2Much 3 года назад +3

      they’re gonna drop comically large anvils on all our servers!

    • @jacp5628
      @jacp5628 3 года назад +3

      Don't worry, like usual it'll backfire and destroy whoever sent it. In this case, the Sun.

  • @tomognb8429
    @tomognb8429 3 года назад +12

    "You think I'd be caught dead living in Vegas."
    No one would be caught dead living anywhere...cuz they're dead. :D

    • @DebiSunset
      @DebiSunset 3 года назад

      You have a point

    • @icecreaminc8013
      @icecreaminc8013 3 года назад

      it means the place is so bad, that even being dead, you'd find a way to not be there. the "caught dead living" is an oxymoron.

    • @windhelmguard2328
      @windhelmguard2328 3 года назад

      Sounds like a 10 karat run of bad luck

  • @a-blivvy-yus
    @a-blivvy-yus 3 года назад +1

    Things learned in this video:
    -Kyle's new villainous scheme requires bucket hats to become popular again. Next step of the plan is currently unknown.
    -Criss Angel uses Kyle Hill as his secret identity to avoid being outed as a wizard and keep his reputation as a stage magician intact.
    - -The Facility is in Vegas- oh I can't say that here... sorry.