THEORY: Rick is only smart in those universes where Beth is dead, right.. as said by rick in the past episode. So maybe that one psycho rick just went around and killed all these Beths, and these Ricks are ultimately hiding from those other Ricks, some of whom have portal guns too somehow even though they are not the smartest. The ultimate evil would perhaps be that one Rick who kills all Beths, or perhaps another evil citadel that kills Beths...
Bro they really nailed it with Evil Morty. It wasn't a story about vengeance or spite, it was just a story of a Morty who got tired of Rick's BS and was smart enough to do something about it. It was a story of a Morty who just want to escape Rick, not to kill or make him suffer, just to be free from the prison Rick created. Amazing writing guys!
@@austinwood8551 the people he killed don't matter coz it's in a reality where Rick is literally the god, realities/universes he has complete control over. He closed off other reality where it doesn't revolve around him.
The Evil Morty theme swelling into a symphony orchestra at the end was basically the icing on the cake. This is in the Top 5 no doubt. Definitely the best finale/A Plot episode.
He's not unimpressed. He just realize long ago that all Ricks are the same, a baby. What surprising here is Rick didn't even put an effort on stopping this Morty, his main priority is to get out of there. Maybe Rick is also tired of his own BS and understood evil Morty's actions.
@@richsalazme Well he thinks he's a baby=therefore he's unimpressed. Every rick move he anticipated and stopped with a detached attitude. I'd call that unimpressed
@@richsalazme They are the same thing - they both don't give shiet anymore, as they understand that whole Rickverse is pointless and trash. Rick hates Citadel and so does Evil Morty. They both just want to live a normal life. Also Rick was already changed by the crows and their betrayal was also devastating to him.
@@nobodynowhere8061 i dont think C-137 necessarily wanted the Central Finite Curve destroyed since he seemed pretty concerned when Evil Morty mentioned it
So, in the infinite multiverses, Rick C-137 couldn’t find the one that killed his family. So he essentially put all the Ricks in a prison by forcing them into the same universe of multiverses, so that the Rick that killed his family couldn’t escape. I think I understood that right and if so, genius writing.
but he couldn't find that Rick so its likely he is smarter or same level as Rick and the only way to escape is to the other universe that Rick isn't that smartest
@@abrahamnorada6815 yeah and the what that “central finite curve” did. A barrier between other dimensions where Rick isn’t the smartest being. Making it so he couldn’t escape essentially
I think the implication is that he could not find him, because universe is infinite, and he kinda lost all hope and care, created Citadel and separated all the universes where Rick is smart from the infinity. But now infinity is back in, meaning that we can meet stupid Ricks and whatnot.
well being the loki writers were from rick and morty, makes sense they took alot of that and brought it to Loki where it was needed. so loki more or less kinda got r&m dna in it
@@christopherjohnson2234 I think there's more to it he could have taken it from the memories Morty saw, our Rick definitely raised a Morty it's in his memories I think our Rick raised Evil Morty
@@willabyte8976 I mean, if you want to keep thinking this, go ahead. The writers seemed to suggest the opposite in this episode and the previous episodes with references to continuity.
I don’t think the creators hate big canon storylines. I think they hate when it comes down to one huge battle like the story train episode. Evil Morty got everything he wanted and the story just continues from there
i think it's setting up that What made evil morty "evil" was growing past Rick and that the last few seasons have seeded that C137 Morty is starting to feel the same way. Now that morty knows the depths of Rick's ego, to literally wall off one infinity from another to keep the status quo of being this irresponsible amoral Godly figure in his Universe with his dimwitted agreeable side kick should further seed a desire to leave Rick-maybe not as dramatically as Evil Morty tho
@@OlPalJoe he won't leave Rick if he did he should've come with Evil Morty seating on a toilet. I think they could hunt down the Rick that killed C-137 Dianne and Beth. Good Cannon adventure but i dont want that to be a whole season lol
@@abrahamnorada6815 he's not ready to leave Rick yet is my prediction but he eventually will. I imagine he'll be basically evil morty in how he views Our Rick but not as destructive
Evil Morty won against Rick, the only way you possibly can. Quite literally, the only way to win is to not play. Ricks created the Central Finite Curve - a part of the multiverse walled off from the rest, in which in every universe, a version of Rick is always the best. Evil Morty decided he wasn't playing Rick's game anymore, and jettisonned himself out of the Central Finite Curve into the truly infinite multiverse where Rick isn't always the top dog.
Rick & Morty in the Omniverse of Madness! The crazy part is the CFC was mentioned in the other 2 Evil Morty episodes as well. This was a long time coming.
@@thedarrick12 this was mentioned in episode 10 (or 9, if you're not counting the pilot) of the first season, in the scene where Rick c-137 was judged by the council of Ricks. And also in the episode about the Citadel, in the "simple Rick" commercial.
thats what I keep thinking.. what happened in all the other ricks stories that there are so many full grown Beths that gave birth to morty... like if Beth is dead how is there morty lol... is c137 the only one this happened to? why are all the other ricks fucked up then?
@@luisdaprodigy2208 Considering Memory Rick calls them "Abandoned Adult Beths", it appears that is a common thing as we have seen. However, that implies that it is NOT the norm. Way I see it, two things occur to a Beth Sanchez. Either Rick cares for and loves his daughter, and her and Diane die in one way or another. Or, Rick leaves and abandons Beth after Diane either leaves him or divorces him, leading to Beth growing up bitter and married to Jerry.
I didnt even consider this until you guys said the poll, but a storyline from here, where now that Morty knows Rick's backstory he helps him seek justice, even if just for an episode, would be really interesting. Could make for a good bonding point for the two going forward, might even help Rick see Morty as closer to an actual partner.
@@spazyu I only worded it like that, because that's how Rick worded it at the end of episode 9 when he said "I was a bad partner because I never let you be a true partner"
As fas as I am concerned, this is Rick and Morty's most important episode so far. It explains everything we needed to know since 2013. How things got in motion. Our Rick had his family killed by another Rick. He never had a life as a father, his Beth died as a little girl and his wife too. He never even had a Morty. All because he refused the other Ricks. All because he was special among them. He hunted them down but couldn't get to the Evil Rick who actually murdered his family. That's why he became an alcoholic too. And that's why he is sort of a pariah inside the Rick society: he's a mass murderer and the smartest of them all. He is the Rickest Rick. He then created the Citadel and the Central Finite Curve to encircle the multiverse into a walled one where he is the smartest and nobody can harm him. That's why he is always so cynical and careless: he isn't afraid at all, there are no actual risks. Evil Morty isn't really anything but the one Morty who wants out, and is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve that. And he got it. He actually defeated Rick on his own, tricked him into destroying the CFC and opening the multiverse once and for all. He is now free, free to pursue his own true agenda. And he has killed ALL of the Ricks that were inside the CFC. Also, we know that our Beth isn't the 2nd, but actually the 3rd. Rick and Morty is supposed to last 10 seasons: we are in the middle right now. That is why this episode is the most important so far: it sets up an entire new concept of the show, one in which we have 5 seasons of endless posibilities and plots. There are many questions that need answers now: where is evil Rick? Where is Evil Morty? What has actually happened with Rick's portal gun? Is it useless now? Is our Morty as special as our Rick? What happens with Bird Person now? I just loved this finale. It's just amazing storytelling.
can anyone tell me this, Did rick c-137 created central finite curve where he is the smartest or he created a central finite curve where all ricks are smart and all the separated ones aren't smart ricks....?
my headcanon: the alt-universe Rick that killed Rick's wife was NOT the smartest man in his universe. So when Rick built the infinite-curve-thing, he accidentally trapped away the man he was looking for. So he was doomed to never find him, because of his own choices and assumptions.
But now that the central finite curve is broken it's possible he will find him I agree I think the rick that killed our Rick's family just wasn't as smart as other ricks by just enough to not make the cut for the central finite curve
@@Zer0manc3r Yes to try to trap him in the curve to make him easier to find but he might have accidentally overestimated the Rick's intelligence and power and trapped him out of the curve
@@willabyte8976 yea but the curve isn't broken evil morty just ripped a hole to escape after that it closed so tge curve is still intact but from evil morty perspective there is no more curve
I laughed sooo hard and just completely lost it when Eric said “The writers are at a bad place.” in response to the after-credits scene with Mr. Poopybutthole hahahahaa. Seriously why is no one talking about that?? It was so deep and so profound, and the way Mr. Poopybutthole’s deep monologue was just thrown in there at the end with no prior warning made it also pretty funny.
There was some hints to it at beginning of the episode tho. When Morty turned himself 40 to guilt trip Rick into coming back, he tells Rick, "Come home, while there's still time." Later in the episode, when Rick tracks down his two crows and eavesdrops them talking to Scare Crow, Scare Crow tells his crows, "You're right, we should be enjoying the time we have together."
@@willabyte8976 No they aren't literally latching him to Beth. They are literally setting them up to fall in love and marry and have a baby. That's not literally latching Jerry onto her body against her will....Learn what the fucking word means....
@@jsmithers. in one of the scenes they used a love serum they are forcing them together and in Rick's eyes Jerry sucks the potential out of his daughter just to make more versions of his grandson making him a parasite but I don't have time to argue with some incel who thinks they're smart because they got the free time to "um actually" somebody in the comment section of a RUclips video
Absolutely. According to how I understand it, there's technically infinite universes out there where Morty could have taken Rick's role, some where Beth could have taken Rick's role, or hell, even Summer or Jerry, or even Mr Poopy Butthole possibly.
Due to the infinite-ness of the multiverse, anything and everything you can think of is, in fact, out there. So, to answer your question, there are infinite citadels of Jerries that are infinitely smarter than Rick.
C-137 eventually gave up on finding the Rick that took his Diane and Beth from him, and since he had given up his personal war a long time ago he built the Citadel Of Ricks for the Rick variants to get them off his back so he could just leave dimension C-137 and be with the family he never had.
I really like when the "Antagonist/Villain' is not just a 1 dimensional must kill good guy or conquer the world type of thing. Evil Morty is psychopath don't get me wrong but in the end its not C-137 Rick's life his after he just want to escape the finite curve he's in.
@@xrphoenix7194 it's great bc C137 morty has almost gotten their on some levels but still has these underlying need to impress Rick and have some kind of morality
I feel like people saying that Evil Morty isn't really evil forgot what he did in all the episodes we saw him Sure, his intentions were good in theory, escaping Ricks bs, but let's not forget that *he* did the Morty torture dome, killed versions of Rick and Morty who were just chilling at home, ripped them from their family, and basically ruined everyone's lives in the citadel (not that they were all good people, but most of them just wanted to live happily) He *is* evil, how do you think he got the name in the first place guys
It was already open though....Rick and Morty literally went to universes where furniture, food (pizza), and telephones where the dominant sentient life....You're telling me those worlds were part of the multiverse where Rick and Morty exist and Rick is the smartest being...? No...
@@jourdanwells2814 Its literally meaningless...They were going to universes that just as easily could have been places without a version of Rick or Morty...It does nothing creatively to the show. It opens up no possibilities that weren't already there..
Mentioning the portals I noticed something about the colors. We've seen blue portals, but those only move you through space in one universe. Green ones move you along many universes within the curve, and yellow seem to be the ones that transport you along the actual infinite universes, maybe the portal was green cause it was being limited along the universes within the curve, adding blue to what should be yellow multiversal portal, mixing them into what we know. No longer limited the curve, the portal lost all blue and is now pure yellow, allowing evil Morty to travel to whatever universe he wants.
Animators use blue for portals that don't work properly. Green poratls were also used for same-dimension teleportation. Literally last episode. (S05E09)
My theory as to why Rick cares more about Morty than even his own daughter. He absolutely loved his wife and daughter..and they died. He never got to have HIS Morty… Which is why the version of his family he went back to he has stuck with that version of Morty(our MC Morty) through everything, he may not have his original Beth and Wife but he has this Morty and doesn’t want to lose him.
This season's finale was epic and the way they adapted Morty's evil music was great, epic. This epic symphonic version hints at the zenith of evil morty, great and epic at its finest. They exaggerated this episode, it's too good.
I imagine now that Rick is beginning to take steps to being better, next season is going to see if he can follow through with it. Now that there's (possibly) no curves and he's no longer the smartest being in the universe(s), he will possibly meet other beings smarter than he and it will be a challenge for him in the coming future.
@@MrTaylork1 True, but he's been taking L's in pretty dumb ways. This episode he was much more inspector gadget and prepared for almost everything, the contrast of Rick at his highest effort and potential compared to other very capable beings will be much more interesting and a challenge than him just failing
I guess that’s why Rick said they could only switch universes a couple times that always confused me cause if there are infinite universes why can they only jump over a couple times now it makes more sense
He’s still definitely evil morty. In season 1 he killed hundreds of beths, Jerry’s, and summers, and tortured hundreds of mortys for the first phase of his plan. And here he created a slave army of purposefully deformed mortys to build his escape weapon and then committed mass genocide on thousands and thousands of Rick and mortys each. And to top it off he used the same excuse he called Rick out on using to not fix problems to justify his own actions. He calls out ricks on not taking responsibility for himself by blaming other ricks or the universe as a whole for being bad but he tries to claim he’s only “evil morty” because he’s sick of Rick and, you know, not because he’s a mass murdering psychopath.
Well if you weren't given freedom and was forced to watch the shit for eternity, wouldn't you have done everything to escape it. I think for him, all the killings he did don't matter because it happened in realities built around Rick, the reality he was trying to escape from.
I mean technically alot of those morty's were created by the ricks for their own purposes, right? So Evil Morty was only repurposing the Morty's that probably shouldnt have existed in the first place. He's evil but not as evil as the average Rick, i suppose.
The entire point of the Rick curve is that those in the curve is thar Rick is the smartest in the universe. There could legit be a 'perfect universe' where Rick is non existent and a perfect universe
@@anthonyrodriguez3495 Simple Rick was several iterations off the Finite Curve and happy before they kidnapped him and forced him to produce cookie juice
@@Jzombi301 I don't really get what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure Simple Rick was still the smartest being in his own universe. It's just that he prioritized his family more. That's why the Citadel still found him, even though the Central Finite Curve had already been established.
@@Drakonus_ I was just pointing out to the guy i replied to that we have already seen a universe that the rick in it would consider "perfect" because he chose family over everything else and that its apparently slightly outside of the Central Finite Curve
I think it's a mark of good story telling to give the audience something they didn't know they wanted. Like if you look at the Train episode they show us all these things we THINK we want just because it would be cool, but then instead of Evil Morty having some massive warlord villain army, they go and blow our minds with something better.
Which will probably drive him to eventually grow a grudge against c-137 Rick and come back to try to kill him (they obviously have beef Rick has never shot a Morty but he tried to shoot evil Morty 4 times they talk like they've hated each other for a while)
God this episode was great. I really wish the anime joke was at the end of the previous one though, and this one had just a little extra time for more Evil Morty. Still, makes me wonder, this opens new possibilities but oddly ends the main serialized story for the most part. There can be more, but Evil Morty really just wanted out, and he got it.
Great episode. I was wondering why with an infinite universes, we've never seen at least one where Rick isn't dominate; now we know. Great finale. Although I have to admit, second season is still my favorite finale.
This also explains why we never see Diane in any universe Diane survives Rick gives up on science and is not the strongest in the universe that's why those universes are not in the curve
I just thought of something, idk if someone talk about this before but Rick main color is blue and Morty's is yellow, both those colors make green, so perhaps the reason why the portal is green is because we're in the Central Curve. And maybe the portals are normally yellow turns green when we're in Curve because of Rick's presence/control... I'm just theorizing
I mean they had access outside of the central finite curve Because for the simple Rick commercials he was 60 iterations off of the curve I guess meaning the Rick in that universe wasn’t the smartest Person. Because he was just a regular wood worker.
I love the idea of this episode and The Central Finite Curve as a whole. The smartest ricks picked the infinite universes where Rick was the smartest, the top dog and made their own multiverse. Except this multiverse, this fake multiverse, wasn't infinite. His reason for creating the Citadel in the first place was probably with the hope that it would be one giant trap for the rick that killed Diane and Beth. But the Curve wasn't a thing at the time so that Rick could have gone anywhere in the multiverse. But after Rick created the curve he also locked himself in it without really knowing if the Rick that killed his family would be in it. And all the universes where rick is considered the smartest always seem to be the ones where the original rick of that universe abandoned his family in his pursuit of science, so there is no real do over for rick. It's a seemingly multiversal constant.
The Central Finite Curve reminds me of the Web of Time from "Doctor Who". The Web of Time was the meta-structure the Time Lords imposed on the Universe (with Gallifrey as its hitching-post, just as the Citadel of Ricks was the hitching-post of the CFC) so that the laws of nature, and the official timeline, behaved as they decreed. During the Time War, the Daleks' corruption of the Web of Time (changing history and physics to favor themselves instead) was the their primary weapon against the Time Lords' previously untouchable position.
Is nobody going to talk about the fact C-137 Morty was pulled off screen by the suction during the last scene? And the morty that took his place was completely blank faced? I kinda feel like C-137 Morty got jettisoned into space or the portal behind them? Just a thought. Seems a weird emphasis to place on him flying off screen if it wasn’t the case.
I noticed that too. There’s no way it was animated this way accidentally. After he flew offscreen, Morty could only have remained on the pod if he hit the little wall off to his side and would have suffered some sort of injury at that speed, at the very least preventing him from just casually walking back up to Rick. That coupled with the cut scream and immediate transition shot to space means SOMETHING. Like everything else in this show, it’s probably just a way for the producers to keep people theorizing throughout the break but that’s why we do what we do.
C-137 Morty never existed given that Beth died in that dimension, so I think you mean "Cronenberg" Earth Morty. And I don't see what you mean, Morty's face had more of a "What do we do now?" look as they stare at the ruined Citadel
The animators for this show are insanely good at details, having such a big event as "the Morty we've been following since episode 1 get switched" would have a lot more clues than him just going off screen and coming back with a worried look.
It’s crazy to know that in this Episode A Morty has outsmarted the Smartest Rick and destroyed the Ricks greatest invention which was destroying a wall around infinity.
I have to say that this episode really tied the show together quite nicely. We finally understand so much about all those questions people asked and chalked up to writing stuff or whatever. We also understand why it wasn't something they could do earlier. We needed time.
The orchestral version of For the Damaged Coda. Mr. Poopybutthole's post-credits speech. The culmination of everything Evil Morty set out to accomplish. GOD, I loved this finale.
I'm calling it right now, in the future there will be an episode where our Rick has finally found the Rick that killed his family and as hot on the trail he'll have to choose between continuing to persue and kill that Rick to finally obtain his revenge or saving Mortys life from some situation he'll find himself in. Ultimately, that Rick will get away (they could still get him later on) because our Rick will choose to save what he has now, his new/current family in Morty. This is gonna show some major development for Rick because now we're aware of all he's gone through and the lengths he's willing to go to complete his life goal of killing the man that took everything from him but he's willing to give it up (even if momentarily) for his grandson that he loves.
Lets not forget, every time Morty has that spurt of motivation/determination, it always blows up in his face. Saving the fart-cloud => cloud wants to destroy his universe.. Wants to get old and die with Jessica => turns out it was just a coincidental meeting in a nursing home.. Frees Planetina => she starts killing people.. Would be interesting to see what kind of things Evil Morty runs into, he's due for a backfire.
Exactly. So far things have gone his way, but now he will have to deal with universes where Rick might not be the worst. By trying to be free of him, he probably released worse, like Sylvie released Kangs
I think the central finite curve was laid down by Rick C137 so that the Rick who killed his wife and daughter cannot travel to other universes in search of other Ricks and preventing the killer Ricks from killing another Diane and Beth. I also think that the Rick who killed Beth and Diane was the original Rick of Evil Morty. Lot of questions to be answered, hyped for next seasons. There is another idea that the universes in which Rick isn't the smartest could also mean that Rick is either dead or Morty is smarter than Rick in those Universes. Another question now is, if the Morty C137 does surpass Rick C137, will this universe be outside the curve?
Rick C137 can't be the Rick that created the central finite curve though. We saw his backstory and it doesn't show him creating it. And there were clearly infinite ricks before him. The Rick that killed Diana and Beth offers C137 the chance to become the smartest man in the infinite universes, an Infinite Rick. If he was the original rick that created the finite curve, then he wouldn't be called C137, he'd be called A1
9:33 Honestly this is pretty standard for a Dan Harmon work, look at the last scene of community just for one example. Dude has always taken his depression and used it for laughs
I think the craziest thing that was revealed to me about Rick in the finale, is not that Rick created a wall around the universes where he's the smart one, it was the fact that according to his own backstory, the Rick we see throughout the show, Rick C-137, technically didn't even have his own Morty in his universe, because Beth ended up dying, therefore a Morty never could have existed. It's not crazy that Rick and Morty went to another universe and abandoned the Cronenberg'd universe they made, one where an alternate version of Rick and Morty died, taking their place, but it is pretty crazy that the Morty we see, one of the two main characters of the show, isn't even from the same universe as Rick himself. And now, the only thing I wonder is how the show is going to continue on after this, since there's still supposed to be 50 more episodes. Rick's portal gun was shown to be not working anymore after "Evil" Morty escaped, and his portal gun was the main gimmick of the show, it's how Rick travelled through alternate dimensions, and without it he's unable to do so. So will Rick somehow rebuild the wall that Evil Morty described? Or is the show going to take a completely different turn from here on out?
The Central Finite Curve is broken. The Citadel was essentially the Curve. The Citadel was then destroyed, which also destroyed the Central Finite Curve. That means the entire multiverse is now open for the main characters to explore. That means universes where Rick is not the smartest man in the universe, a universe where there was never a Rick at all, and ultimately a universe where Diane is still alive, so I imagine there will be character conflict with Rick there.
Holy shit, the finite curve is the reason Rick said they only had a few resets in Rick Potion Number 9 that they can do. Like, hopping to a universe where there was a dead Rick and Morty and the crisis had been averted. At the time it seemed like, surely if there are an infinite number of universes then there is an infinite amount of those resets, but not if you factor in only the universes where it happens and Rick is the smartest person in said universe.
Infinity is still infinity though. There’s still an infinite number of universes where that all occurs. I took Rick saying they only had a few resets left because Rick only knew of a few and was too lazy to search for others
Not sure if people realize this but the main Rick of the show c-137 isn’t suppose to have a Morty. His Beth and Diane died by evil Rick. This explains in the episode where Rick sees a picture of baby Morty and he starts to cry. He never experienced this himself. Also explains why he hates jerry so much because all the CFC universes force Beth to be with a jerry not because it’s here choice for majority of them.
Theres 3 kinds of portals. In the pilot, we see the blue one. Which is anything outside the curve. Green is inside the curve. Mix blue and green and you get yellow. Which is basically everywhere.
evil morty always won in every episode he is in. its great way to put an end to his character for atleast a long while. he might come back in a few seasons if they explore the multiverse outside of rick's curve but it was all great to watch.
My theory is because Diane is not in the finite curve because in the universe's she survives Rick is weaker because he gives up on science so those aren't in the curve That evil Morty can now find Diane because Diane is the one thing that truly weakens Rick maybe that's how he comes back later to finish Rick off (this episode shows they definitely knew each other before they have history and they hate each other Rick tried to shoot him in the head 4 times)
I interpret the yellow portal as mostly symbolic. It's _Evil Morty's_ portal technology. His is backengineered from the Rick gun, but this one is his. Rick always claimed he was basically a god. That this Morty now has his own trademark portal technology makes him Rick's equal. He's just as powerful as Rick now. Keep in mind that our Rick destroyed the Citadel once. Evil Morty did it again, drawing a direct parallel between them.
He built the Citadel to isolate all the universes that had the Rick's in it so that he could destroy them all at one time and then he had a change of heart
You know what is the most interesting thing about this? Previously we could always be sure that no matter the universe, Rick was going to be the smartest person there. But now the curve got destroyed and this could mean that the access to unvierses where Rick isn't the smartest person, has been opened. This means we might get stories with other people that have access to portal technology as Rick just isn't the smartest in these universes.
I don't even find it unbelievable Rick would go so far as to separate universe where he's not the smartest. This man used to wipe Morty's memories of any mistake he's made, minor or major. He's a prideful asshole.
Well, this was a great season finale. And I see why season 5 felt weak compared to other seasons because all of the energy was put on to this episode. We have some fan theories that we’re both confirmed and debunked. I’m excited to see what season 6 has in store.
Fun fact , this is not the first time in the series where they talk about the central finite curve. Its mentioned WAY earlier in the series when rick is standing before the council of ricks , and then its mentioned again during the "simple Rick's cookie" bit
I think Rick created the citadel and the central finite curve because after killing so many other ricks they decided to come to a truce and had our Rick build the citadel or something along those lines.
I fucking LOOOOOOVE that someone finally convinced Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland to make a truly massive and CANONICAL ending to a season, even bigger than the season 2 finale. And we finally have a true backstory for Rick Sanchez. Also I am never calling him “evil” Morty again because he’s not evil, he’s just had ENOUGH of Rick’s bullshit and of Rick. So I will call him when the rest of the internet is calling him because that truly was a genius plan worthy of Mortiarty.
I would say killing/torturing an infinite amount of your counterparts qualifies as "Evil". I think its spectrum though, so he's not unapologetically evil just for the sake of it. Beating Rick's system requires his actions
@@Northbravo evil is a point of view. All of those Morty’s were created, bred, and shipped off to be human shields for Rick’s everywhere. Ending their lives quickly so they don’t suffer any longer, I call that mercy.
No he's evil as s*** did you not see all the Ricks and Morty's he slaughtered and all the people he killed for his plan to work he might have motives that could be considered good but he's definitely evil
Remember that flashback Rick had BLUE portals that kept killing stuff like apples. Now that the backstory was fake for c137 but real for another Rick maybe it being blue also led to another universe but one outside the curve and that's what happens if you don't get it exactly right.
Or blue represented the true multiverse but after Rick saw how dangerous he was to even himself he made the central finite curve to trap all Rick's and keep the rest of the multiverse safe from Rick's
The blue portals were the ones that would ruin anything that would go through them and Rick was upset every time that happened and would later say he had no success. It's rather obvious that animators just used blue for defective portals. They literally made this episode so that people would stop overthinking it, but here you go now.
@@zatrioxjet7170 in tales of the citadel a green portal also melts a junkie Rick cause it's defective. Also it's rick and morty the whole point is to over think everything and then just forget about it anyway.
@@zatrioxjet7170 blue portals were only shown twice when Rick was failing at creating a working portal and when the American government made it (it looked like a Minecraft portal but blue) so since both of those would be disconnected from the CFC I would assume those are the real portals that go to a true multiverse
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THEORY: Rick is only smart in those universes where Beth is dead, right.. as said by rick in the past episode. So maybe that one psycho rick just went around and killed all these Beths, and these Ricks are ultimately hiding from those other Ricks, some of whom have portal guns too somehow even though they are not the smartest. The ultimate evil would perhaps be that one Rick who kills all Beths, or perhaps another evil citadel that kills Beths...
No one is talking about the Rick that killed his family
@@NicVandEmZ which one?
Bro they really nailed it with Evil Morty. It wasn't a story about vengeance or spite, it was just a story of a Morty who got tired of Rick's BS and was smart enough to do something about it. It was a story of a Morty who just want to escape Rick, not to kill or make him suffer, just to be free from the prison Rick created. Amazing writing guys!
except he killed several people which makes him in my opinion evil
@@austinwood8551 Tbh so did every other character in the show
@@austinwood8551 the people he killed don't matter coz it's in a reality where Rick is literally the god, realities/universes he has complete control over. He closed off other reality where it doesn't revolve around him.
I mean he did talk about hunting Rick down so maybe he did want him dead
@@austinwood8551 he mostly killed ricks and mortys which really doesn't matter because they can get revived by operation pheonix
The Evil Morty theme swelling into a symphony orchestra at the end was basically the icing on the cake. This is in the Top 5 no doubt. Definitely the best finale/A Plot episode.
Absolutely stunning
Very 2001. I loved it
This was the perfect sendout for him: destroying the central finite curve and leaving everyone to die. Truly he was the evil one.
it's not "the evil morty theme", is a song called For The Damaged Coda by Blonde Redhead
Never been more bored in my life, nothing interesting or funny happened
i like how unimpressed he is with C137. not mad, not vengeful, just unimpressed. Truly a Morty among Mortys
He's not unimpressed. He just realize long ago that all Ricks are the same, a baby. What surprising here is Rick didn't even put an effort on stopping this Morty, his main priority is to get out of there. Maybe Rick is also tired of his own BS and understood evil Morty's actions.
@@richsalazme Well he thinks he's a baby=therefore he's unimpressed. Every rick move he anticipated and stopped with a detached attitude. I'd call that unimpressed
@@richsalazme They are the same thing - they both don't give shiet anymore, as they understand that whole Rickverse is pointless and trash. Rick hates Citadel and so does Evil Morty. They both just want to live a normal life. Also Rick was already changed by the crows and their betrayal was also devastating to him.
richSalaz me honestly it seems like Rick c137 and evil Morty both want the same thing
@@nobodynowhere8061 i dont think C-137 necessarily wanted the Central Finite Curve destroyed since he seemed pretty concerned when Evil Morty mentioned it
So, in the infinite multiverses, Rick C-137 couldn’t find the one that killed his family. So he essentially put all the Ricks in a prison by forcing them into the same universe of multiverses, so that the Rick that killed his family couldn’t escape. I think I understood that right and if so, genius writing.
but he couldn't find that Rick so its likely he is smarter or same level as Rick and the only way to escape is to the other universe that Rick isn't that smartest
@@abrahamnorada6815 yeah and the what that “central finite curve” did. A barrier between other dimensions where Rick isn’t the smartest being. Making it so he couldn’t escape essentially
@@abrahamnorada6815
It might be that evil Morty’s Rick is the one that killed Rick c-137’s Diane.
you're too easily impressed if you actually consider that "genius writing".
I think the implication is that he could not find him, because universe is infinite, and he kinda lost all hope and care, created Citadel and separated all the universes where Rick is smart from the infinity. But now infinity is back in, meaning that we can meet stupid Ricks and whatnot.
Rick literally made a "sacred timeline" of Rick and Morty.
Well… more like a sacred multiverse, but you’re still right.
well being the loki writers were from rick and morty, makes sense they took alot of that and brought it to Loki where it was needed. so loki more or less kinda got r&m dna in it
@@franktheavocado7573 From what I understand, the Loki events were taken from existing comics.
Wanda, Loki, Spiderman/Dr.Strange: messing up the multiverse
Rick and Morty: Hold my portal gun.
he made the central finite curve to at least try to narrow down the possibilities.
I really liked what they did with Evil Morty.
Its very different like then like the end of the season villain fight scene
I still want to know what his backstory is
@@quanganhvu6791 We know his backstory. He was a normal Morty who got sick of rick. There's nothing more to it. He said so himself in the episode.
@@christopherjohnson2234 I think there's more to it he could have taken it from the memories Morty saw, our Rick definitely raised a Morty it's in his memories I think our Rick raised Evil Morty
@@willabyte8976 I mean, if you want to keep thinking this, go ahead. The writers seemed to suggest the opposite in this episode and the previous episodes with references to continuity.
I don’t think the creators hate big canon storylines. I think they hate when it comes down to one huge battle like the story train episode. Evil Morty got everything he wanted and the story just continues from there
it could be cannon that the battle in train episode was to capture Rick so that Evil Morty can leave the Curve
i think it's setting up that What made evil morty "evil" was growing past Rick and that the last few seasons have seeded that C137 Morty is starting to feel the same way. Now that morty knows the depths of Rick's ego, to literally wall off one infinity from another to keep the status quo of being this irresponsible amoral Godly figure in his Universe with his dimwitted agreeable side kick should further seed a desire to leave Rick-maybe not as dramatically as Evil Morty tho
@@OlPalJoe he won't leave Rick if he did he should've come with Evil Morty seating on a toilet. I think they could hunt down the Rick that killed C-137 Dianne and Beth. Good Cannon adventure but i dont want that to be a whole season lol
@@abrahamnorada6815 he's not ready to leave Rick yet is my prediction but he eventually will. I imagine he'll be basically evil morty in how he views Our Rick but not as destructive
@@OlPalJoe can be. He will replace the Evil Morty
Evil Morty won against Rick, the only way you possibly can.
Quite literally, the only way to win is to not play.
Ricks created the Central Finite Curve - a part of the multiverse walled off from the rest, in which in every universe, a version of Rick is always the best.
Evil Morty decided he wasn't playing Rick's game anymore, and jettisonned himself out of the Central Finite Curve into the truly infinite multiverse where Rick isn't always the top dog.
Rick & Morty in the Omniverse of Madness! The crazy part is the CFC was mentioned in the other 2 Evil Morty episodes as well. This was a long time coming.
@@Linator4 when were they mentioned ?
thats some good nutshelling right there
@@thedarrick12 this was mentioned in episode 10 (or 9, if you're not counting the pilot) of the first season, in the scene where Rick c-137 was judged by the council of Ricks. And also in the episode about the Citadel, in the "simple Rick" commercial.
I love that, and now, they will accept that Rick does not know everything as he claimed, and i think this will cause some real character development
Memory Rick: "You moved in with an alternate version of our dead daughter." They straight up confirmed that C-137's Beth is dead.
A lot of the Ricks daughters are dead, memory Rick mentions it as if it’s not that uncommon.
thats what I keep thinking.. what happened in all the other ricks stories that there are so many full grown Beths that gave birth to morty... like if Beth is dead how is there morty lol... is c137 the only one this happened to? why are all the other ricks fucked up then?
@@luisdaprodigy2208
Considering Memory Rick calls them "Abandoned Adult Beths", it appears that is a common thing as we have seen. However, that implies that it is NOT the norm. Way I see it, two things occur to a Beth Sanchez.
Either Rick cares for and loves his daughter, and her and Diane die in one way or another.
Or, Rick leaves and abandons Beth after Diane either leaves him or divorces him, leading to Beth growing up bitter and married to Jerry.
we also saw rick c137's Beth straight blow up
@@memeable7235
Yes. After this comment was made.
"He built a wall around infinity" Is such a heavy line
I didnt even consider this until you guys said the poll, but a storyline from here, where now that Morty knows Rick's backstory he helps him seek justice, even if just for an episode, would be really interesting. Could make for a good bonding point for the two going forward, might even help Rick see Morty as closer to an actual partner.
The last phrase sounded a little bit too incest
@@spazyu That’s dicked up.
@@spazyu I only worded it like that, because that's how Rick worded it at the end of episode 9 when he said "I was a bad partner because I never let you be a true partner"
I just wonder what happened to the Rick that killed Rick family
@@NicVandEmZ He went gae with his Morty just like the OP wanted.
As fas as I am concerned, this is Rick and Morty's most important episode so far.
It explains everything we needed to know since 2013. How things got in motion.
Our Rick had his family killed by another Rick. He never had a life as a father, his Beth died as a little girl and his wife too. He never even had a Morty.
All because he refused the other Ricks. All because he was special among them.
He hunted them down but couldn't get to the Evil Rick who actually murdered his family. That's why he became an alcoholic too. And that's why he is sort of a pariah inside the Rick society: he's a mass murderer and the smartest of them all. He is the Rickest Rick.
He then created the Citadel and the Central Finite Curve to encircle the multiverse into a walled one where he is the smartest and nobody can harm him. That's why he is always so cynical and careless: he isn't afraid at all, there are no actual risks.
Evil Morty isn't really anything but the one Morty who wants out, and is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve that. And he got it. He actually defeated Rick on his own, tricked him into destroying the CFC and opening the multiverse once and for all.
He is now free, free to pursue his own true agenda. And he has killed ALL of the Ricks that were inside the CFC.
Also, we know that our Beth isn't the 2nd, but actually the 3rd.
Rick and Morty is supposed to last 10 seasons: we are in the middle right now. That is why this episode is the most important so far: it sets up an entire new concept of the show, one in which we have 5 seasons of endless posibilities and plots.
There are many questions that need answers now: where is evil Rick? Where is Evil Morty? What has actually happened with Rick's portal gun? Is it useless now? Is our Morty as special as our Rick? What happens with Bird Person now?
I just loved this finale. It's just amazing storytelling.
And who could be smarter than Rick?
@@sketchstevens5859 possibly a Universe where *morty* is the genius god man
evil rick died
can anyone tell me this, Did rick c-137 created central finite curve where he is the smartest or he created a central finite curve where all ricks are smart and all the separated ones aren't smart ricks....?
@@Vivek-ni5pc infinite ricks in the finite curve make up for the smart and dumb Ricks so yes.
my headcanon:
the alt-universe Rick that killed Rick's wife was NOT the smartest man in his universe. So when Rick built the infinite-curve-thing, he accidentally trapped away the man he was looking for. So he was doomed to never find him, because of his own choices and assumptions.
But now that the central finite curve is broken it's possible he will find him I agree I think the rick that killed our Rick's family just wasn't as smart as other ricks by just enough to not make the cut for the central finite curve
Didn't he build the curve after he stopped looking for that Rick?
@@Zer0manc3r Yes to try to trap him in the curve to make him easier to find but he might have accidentally overestimated the Rick's intelligence and power and trapped him out of the curve
Except the infinite curve was built after he stopped looking.
@@willabyte8976 yea but the curve isn't broken evil morty just ripped a hole to escape after that it closed so tge curve is still intact but from evil morty perspective there is no more curve
I laughed sooo hard and just completely lost it when Eric said “The writers are at a bad place.” in response to the after-credits scene with Mr. Poopybutthole hahahahaa. Seriously why is no one talking about that?? It was so deep and so profound, and the way Mr. Poopybutthole’s deep monologue was just thrown in there at the end with no prior warning made it also pretty funny.
bad 2 years of the planet does that to you
There was some hints to it at beginning of the episode tho. When Morty turned himself 40 to guilt trip Rick into coming back, he tells Rick, "Come home, while there's still time." Later in the episode, when Rick tracks down his two crows and eavesdrops them talking to Scare Crow, Scare Crow tells his crows, "You're right, we should be enjoying the time we have together."
The Ricks are basically Jerry and Beth matchmakers to produce a Morty.
That's why our Rick hates Jerry so much he's against what the citadel is doing now that he's not in charge and this makes Jerry a literal parasite
@@willabyte8976 This make Jerry a parasite? How?
@@universalpower419 because the other Ricks are literally latching him to Rick's daughter to make more Mortys
@@willabyte8976 No they aren't literally latching him to Beth. They are literally setting them up to fall in love and marry and have a baby. That's not literally latching Jerry onto her body against her will....Learn what the fucking word means....
@@jsmithers. in one of the scenes they used a love serum they are forcing them together and in Rick's eyes Jerry sucks the potential out of his daughter just to make more versions of his grandson making him a parasite but I don't have time to argue with some incel who thinks they're smart because they got the free time to "um actually" somebody in the comment section of a RUclips video
26:25 He's correct, tho. In the fake memory, Rick made the equation immediately. But in the real memory, he created the portal gun days/weeks later.
So now there is endless possibilities, the curve was destroyed, there is maybe a citadel of super smart Jerrys out there !!!!
That would be a fun episode!
God that would actually be hell
Absolutely. According to how I understand it, there's technically infinite universes out there where Morty could have taken Rick's role, some where Beth could have taken Rick's role, or hell, even Summer or Jerry, or even Mr Poopy Butthole possibly.
Due to the infinite-ness of the multiverse, anything and everything you can think of is, in fact, out there. So, to answer your question, there are infinite citadels of Jerries that are infinitely smarter than Rick.
So glad I refreshed instead of closing RUclips
Always gotta refresh first.
This could lead to a great Thanos joke in a future season where they teleport to evil mortys homestead and kill him
Oh god I hope so
"I used the Ricks to destroy the Ricks"
This is what happens when redditors become writers
? Why would he.. there is no reason to.. you think c137 gives a shit.. he never even tried to evil morty.. he just wanted to escape.
@@2playusout lmfao right? Destroy a great ending for a shit reference
C-137 eventually gave up on finding the Rick that took his Diane and Beth from him, and since he had given up his personal war a long time ago he built the Citadel Of Ricks for the Rick variants to get them off his back so he could just leave dimension C-137 and be with the family he never had.
I think he built the citadel so It would be easier for him to find the Rick who killed his family.
@@LuminusMilo but he never went back to that for that reason
“Will it blend” now, that’s a reference I’ve not heard for a long time. A long time.
I was waiting for “that is the question”
Oh I missed that...where did they say said and what is it a reference for?
I really like when the "Antagonist/Villain' is not just a 1 dimensional must kill good guy or conquer the world type of thing. Evil Morty is psychopath don't get me wrong but in the end its not C-137 Rick's life his after he just want to escape the finite curve he's in.
He is the inevitable end point of morty, the end point of watching rick destroy everything. Complete apathy, only wanting to escape Rick's influence
@@xrphoenix7194 it's great bc C137 morty has almost gotten their on some levels but still has these underlying need to impress Rick and have some kind of morality
@@OlPalJoe our morty isnt morty c-137, if c-137 is where our rick is from, morty wouldnt exist there as beth was killed at a young age
@@xrphoenix7194 eh the show has reffered to them both as C137 so I just call them that for ease of reference
@@OlPalJoe fair enough
I feel like people saying that Evil Morty isn't really evil forgot what he did in all the episodes we saw him
Sure, his intentions were good in theory, escaping Ricks bs, but let's not forget that *he* did the Morty torture dome, killed versions of Rick and Morty who were just chilling at home, ripped them from their family, and basically ruined everyone's lives in the citadel (not that they were all good people, but most of them just wanted to live happily)
He *is* evil, how do you think he got the name in the first place guys
And our Rick and Morty have murdered entire civilizations and innocents so wouldn't they all be evil in the end
@@deathonion404 Literally yes. Just because Rick and Morty are protagonists doesn’t mean they’re heroes.
The Rick Multiverse has officially been opened. Just like in the MCU.
It was already open though....Rick and Morty literally went to universes where furniture, food (pizza), and telephones where the dominant sentient life....You're telling me those worlds were part of the multiverse where Rick and Morty exist and Rick is the smartest being...? No...
@@jsmithers. this dude 🤦🏾♂️.... The real multiversre has been opened. Did you not watch the episode.
@@jourdanwells2814 Its literally meaningless...They were going to universes that just as easily could have been places without a version of Rick or Morty...It does nothing creatively to the show. It opens up no possibilities that weren't already there..
@@jsmithers. your opinion 🤷🏾♂️
@@jourdanwells2814 How so? Tell me whats possible now that wasn't already possible?
Mentioning the portals I noticed something about the colors. We've seen blue portals, but those only move you through space in one universe. Green ones move you along many universes within the curve, and yellow seem to be the ones that transport you along the actual infinite universes, maybe the portal was green cause it was being limited along the universes within the curve, adding blue to what should be yellow multiversal portal, mixing them into what we know. No longer limited the curve, the portal lost all blue and is now pure yellow, allowing evil Morty to travel to whatever universe he wants.
So what's red, orange, purple
Rick has used green portals to travel through space in the same universe
That’s a great observation!
Or maybe colors are just colors. Jeeze, you're as bad as an English teacher.
Animators use blue for portals that don't work properly. Green poratls were also used for same-dimension teleportation. Literally last episode. (S05E09)
My theory as to why Rick cares more about Morty than even his own daughter.
He absolutely loved his wife and daughter..and they died. He never got to have HIS Morty…
Which is why the version of his family he went back to he has stuck with that version of Morty(our MC Morty) through everything, he may not have his original Beth and Wife but he has this Morty and doesn’t want to lose him.
This season's finale was epic and the way they adapted Morty's evil music was great, epic. This epic symphonic version hints at the zenith of evil morty, great and epic at its finest. They exaggerated this episode, it's too good.
I imagine now that Rick is beginning to take steps to being better, next season is going to see if he can follow through with it. Now that there's (possibly) no curves and he's no longer the smartest being in the universe(s), he will possibly meet other beings smarter than he and it will be a challenge for him in the coming future.
That’s what I’m looking forward to. Meeting beings (or a singular being) that makes Rick looks infantile by comparison. A true genius.
Rick has been taking L’s all season. It wouldn’t be anything new.
@@MrTaylork1 True, but he's been taking L's in pretty dumb ways. This episode he was much more inspector gadget and prepared for almost everything, the contrast of Rick at his highest effort and potential compared to other very capable beings will be much more interesting and a challenge than him just failing
I guess that’s why Rick said they could only switch universes a couple times that always confused me cause if there are infinite universes why can they only jump over a couple times now it makes more sense
More likely, it's that jumping realities every time they can't solve a problem would be lazy writing.
@@my5head yes but they've explained mediocre writing with good writing now
@@annettemcgreevy1258 Yeah I think this twist is actually pretty neat and definitely makes earlier scenes with universe jumping make more sense.
*Sees thumbnail:* Oh that must be from one of the many dramatic reveals of this episode
Reality: *PRAISE THE LOG*
That music drop when the launch activates, tho
And with that, we are are halfway through the 10 seasons of Rick and Morty
12 actually
@@randomiser2267 why
They probably won’t see this, but in the blu ray special features you can see the animators watching blind wave in a behind the scenes shot.
This episode was insane. Definitely favorite episode from the show. Would be great to see you guys react also to the commentary at the end!
Still can't believe they did a Rick and Morty crossover for the Rick and Two crows finale
Yesss! I've been waiting for this! What a finale! The anime opening was so well done.
One of the writers passed away that was kinda of a little nod to him in that speech
He’s still definitely evil morty. In season 1 he killed hundreds of beths, Jerry’s, and summers, and tortured hundreds of mortys for the first phase of his plan. And here he created a slave army of purposefully deformed mortys to build his escape weapon and then committed mass genocide on thousands and thousands of Rick and mortys each. And to top it off he used the same excuse he called Rick out on using to not fix problems to justify his own actions. He calls out ricks on not taking responsibility for himself by blaming other ricks or the universe as a whole for being bad but he tries to claim he’s only “evil morty” because he’s sick of Rick and, you know, not because he’s a mass murdering psychopath.
Hey if you oppose my ideals of freedom then you are my enemy. That Morty is not evil he is true morty. He moves forward not matter what
@@ryuhitsuya21 calm down eren
@@kamronspencer4910 yeagerist til I die baby. Gotta love it
Well if you weren't given freedom and was forced to watch the shit for eternity, wouldn't you have done everything to escape it. I think for him, all the killings he did don't matter because it happened in realities built around Rick, the reality he was trying to escape from.
I mean technically alot of those morty's were created by the ricks for their own purposes, right? So Evil Morty was only repurposing the Morty's that probably shouldnt have existed in the first place. He's evil but not as evil as the average Rick, i suppose.
The entire point of the Rick curve is that those in the curve is thar Rick is the smartest in the universe. There could legit be a 'perfect universe' where Rick is non existent and a perfect universe
Or even a perfect universe where Rick got over himself, or even never lost his family.
@@anthonyrodriguez3495 Simple Rick was several iterations off the Finite Curve and happy before they kidnapped him and forced him to produce cookie juice
@@Jzombi301 I don't really get what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure Simple Rick was still the smartest being in his own universe. It's just that he prioritized his family more. That's why the Citadel still found him, even though the Central Finite Curve had already been established.
@@Drakonus_ I was just pointing out to the guy i replied to that we have already seen a universe that the rick in it would consider "perfect" because he chose family over everything else and that its apparently slightly outside of the Central Finite Curve
I think it's a mark of good story telling to give the audience something they didn't know they wanted. Like if you look at the Train episode they show us all these things we THINK we want just because it would be cool, but then instead of Evil Morty having some massive warlord villain army, they go and blow our minds with something better.
Will Evil Morty actually find “peace” now? His whole point was to leave all ricks, but it looks like a lot of rick lives inside him now.
Which will probably drive him to eventually grow a grudge against c-137 Rick and come back to try to kill him (they obviously have beef Rick has never shot a Morty but he tried to shoot evil Morty 4 times they talk like they've hated each other for a while)
I’m glad they’ve watched naruto. Eric gets got by the log every time.
God this episode was great. I really wish the anime joke was at the end of the previous one though, and this one had just a little extra time for more Evil Morty. Still, makes me wonder, this opens new possibilities but oddly ends the main serialized story for the most part. There can be more, but Evil Morty really just wanted out, and he got it.
Evil Morty won. He really was the Rickes Morty
Not really, he pretty much became rick, the man he wanted to get away from
@@TokyoSaga
He wanted to get away from Rick by becoming a Rick, not really an escape
@@TokyoSaga but at what cost? He became the person he wanted to get away from
@@TokyoSaga
He’s just a Rick with his portal gun that destroyed the citadel after building it up
As Luke skywalker once said “ I’m pickle Riiiicccckkkkk”.
rick and morty in the multiverse of fucking madness
Great episode. I was wondering why with an infinite universes, we've never seen at least one where Rick isn't dominate; now we know. Great finale. Although I have to admit, second season is still my favorite finale.
This also explains why we never see Diane in any universe Diane survives Rick gives up on science and is not the strongest in the universe that's why those universes are not in the curve
I loooooved this episode so much. The Evil Morty theme is my favorite. And I wanted Evil Morty to succeed so badly that when he did I started crying.
8:10 that's the third time the series has played that theme music for Evil Morty and it gets more epic each time!!!
That Anime intro though 🔥🔥
I just thought of something, idk if someone talk about this before but Rick main color is blue and Morty's is yellow, both those colors make green, so perhaps the reason why the portal is green is because we're in the Central Curve. And maybe the portals are normally yellow turns green when we're in Curve because of Rick's presence/control... I'm just theorizing
I mean they had access outside of the central finite curve Because for the simple Rick commercials he was 60 iterations off of the curve I guess meaning the Rick in that universe wasn’t the smartest Person. Because he was just a regular wood worker.
yup, he was just a simple Rick...
I love the idea of this episode and The Central Finite Curve as a whole. The smartest ricks picked the infinite universes where Rick was the smartest, the top dog and made their own multiverse. Except this multiverse, this fake multiverse, wasn't infinite. His reason for creating the Citadel in the first place was probably with the hope that it would be one giant trap for the rick that killed Diane and Beth. But the Curve wasn't a thing at the time so that Rick could have gone anywhere in the multiverse. But after Rick created the curve he also locked himself in it without really knowing if the Rick that killed his family would be in it. And all the universes where rick is considered the smartest always seem to be the ones where the original rick of that universe abandoned his family in his pursuit of science, so there is no real do over for rick. It's a seemingly multiversal constant.
The Central Finite Curve reminds me of the Web of Time from "Doctor Who". The Web of Time was the meta-structure the Time Lords imposed on the Universe (with Gallifrey as its hitching-post, just as the Citadel of Ricks was the hitching-post of the CFC) so that the laws of nature, and the official timeline, behaved as they decreed. During the Time War, the Daleks' corruption of the Web of Time (changing history and physics to favor themselves instead) was the their primary weapon against the Time Lords' previously untouchable position.
Literally just finished your reaction to episode 9. Glad I didn't get off youtube
Is nobody going to talk about the fact C-137 Morty was pulled off screen by the suction during the last scene? And the morty that took his place was completely blank faced? I kinda feel like C-137 Morty got jettisoned into space or the portal behind them? Just a thought. Seems a weird emphasis to place on him flying off screen if it wasn’t the case.
Most people didn't see it. Like "evil" Morty offered our Morty is probably free now.
I noticed that too. There’s no way it was animated this way accidentally. After he flew offscreen, Morty could only have remained on the pod if he hit the little wall off to his side and would have suffered some sort of injury at that speed, at the very least preventing him from just casually walking back up to Rick. That coupled with the cut scream and immediate transition shot to space means SOMETHING. Like everything else in this show, it’s probably just a way for the producers to keep people theorizing throughout the break but that’s why we do what we do.
C-137 Morty never existed given that Beth died in that dimension, so I think you mean "Cronenberg" Earth Morty. And I don't see what you mean, Morty's face had more of a "What do we do now?" look as they stare at the ruined Citadel
The animators for this show are insanely good at details, having such a big event as "the Morty we've been following since episode 1 get switched" would have a lot more clues than him just going off screen and coming back with a worried look.
@@Dan_G.R.S. Not really. Thats plenty. It might not have happened but its definitely a possibility.
1:41 “it’s just an anime episode.”
Gotta love that Rick and Morty bait and switch.
I know this show doesn’t like canon, but I hope they keep the change in Rick and Morty’s relationship, and explore it more in future seasons
So are we going to have to wait till next season to find out why Morty is playing golf?
It’s crazy to know that in this Episode A Morty has outsmarted the Smartest Rick and destroyed the Ricks greatest invention which was destroying a wall around infinity.
The writers need a hug lol
This is the only episode that left my mouth open
Man the possibilities are now really infinite, now Rick is not the Smartest in the Multiverse, without the Central Finite Curve. It’s amazing.
I have to say that this episode really tied the show together quite nicely. We finally understand so much about all those questions people asked and chalked up to writing stuff or whatever. We also understand why it wasn't something they could do earlier. We needed time.
Season 6 time.
The orchestral version of For the Damaged Coda. Mr. Poopybutthole's post-credits speech. The culmination of everything Evil Morty set out to accomplish. GOD, I loved this finale.
I'm calling it right now, in the future there will be an episode where our Rick has finally found the Rick that killed his family and as hot on the trail he'll have to choose between continuing to persue and kill that Rick to finally obtain his revenge or saving Mortys life from some situation he'll find himself in. Ultimately, that Rick will get away (they could still get him later on) because our Rick will choose to save what he has now, his new/current family in Morty. This is gonna show some major development for Rick because now we're aware of all he's gone through and the lengths he's willing to go to complete his life goal of killing the man that took everything from him but he's willing to give it up (even if momentarily) for his grandson that he loves.
Lets not forget, every time Morty has that spurt of motivation/determination, it always blows up in his face. Saving the fart-cloud => cloud wants to destroy his universe.. Wants to get old and die with Jessica => turns out it was just a coincidental meeting in a nursing home.. Frees Planetina => she starts killing people.. Would be interesting to see what kind of things Evil Morty runs into, he's due for a backfire.
Exactly. So far things have gone his way, but now he will have to deal with universes where Rick might not be the worst. By trying to be free of him, he probably released worse, like Sylvie released Kangs
I think the central finite curve was laid down by Rick C137 so that the Rick who killed his wife and daughter cannot travel to other universes in search of other Ricks and preventing the killer Ricks from killing another Diane and Beth. I also think that the Rick who killed Beth and Diane was the original Rick of Evil Morty. Lot of questions to be answered, hyped for next seasons.
There is another idea that the universes in which Rick isn't the smartest could also mean that Rick is either dead or Morty is smarter than Rick in those Universes. Another question now is, if the Morty C137 does surpass Rick C137, will this universe be outside the curve?
Rick C137 can't be the Rick that created the central finite curve though. We saw his backstory and it doesn't show him creating it. And there were clearly infinite ricks before him. The Rick that killed Diana and Beth offers C137 the chance to become the smartest man in the infinite universes, an Infinite Rick. If he was the original rick that created the finite curve, then he wouldn't be called C137, he'd be called A1
@@nimblesheepvenomous3811 or its a random id
There is no Morty C-137, as Beth died as a child in that universe.
9:33 Honestly this is pretty standard for a Dan Harmon work, look at the last scene of community just for one example. Dude has always taken his depression and used it for laughs
Nice, I just finished watching the last video!
since you guys are finshed with rick and morty you guys should watch Final Space it a pretty good show in my opinion
Evil morty wasn’t evil for wanting to leave, it’s how he went about leaving.
I think the craziest thing that was revealed to me about Rick in the finale, is not that Rick created a wall around the universes where he's the smart one, it was the fact that according to his own backstory, the Rick we see throughout the show, Rick C-137, technically didn't even have his own Morty in his universe, because Beth ended up dying, therefore a Morty never could have existed. It's not crazy that Rick and Morty went to another universe and abandoned the Cronenberg'd universe they made, one where an alternate version of Rick and Morty died, taking their place, but it is pretty crazy that the Morty we see, one of the two main characters of the show, isn't even from the same universe as Rick himself.
And now, the only thing I wonder is how the show is going to continue on after this, since there's still supposed to be 50 more episodes. Rick's portal gun was shown to be not working anymore after "Evil" Morty escaped, and his portal gun was the main gimmick of the show, it's how Rick travelled through alternate dimensions, and without it he's unable to do so. So will Rick somehow rebuild the wall that Evil Morty described? Or is the show going to take a completely different turn from here on out?
The blender dimension callback made me giggle
The Central Finite Curve is broken. The Citadel was essentially the Curve. The Citadel was then destroyed, which also destroyed the Central Finite Curve. That means the entire multiverse is now open for the main characters to explore. That means universes where Rick is not the smartest man in the universe, a universe where there was never a Rick at all, and ultimately a universe where Diane is still alive, so I imagine there will be character conflict with Rick there.
Holy shit, the finite curve is the reason Rick said they only had a few resets in Rick Potion Number 9 that they can do. Like, hopping to a universe where there was a dead Rick and Morty and the crisis had been averted. At the time it seemed like, surely if there are an infinite number of universes then there is an infinite amount of those resets, but not if you factor in only the universes where it happens and Rick is the smartest person in said universe.
Infinity is still infinity though. There’s still an infinite number of universes where that all occurs. I took Rick saying they only had a few resets left because Rick only knew of a few and was too lazy to search for others
My wish came true!
Not sure if people realize this but the main Rick of the show c-137 isn’t suppose to have a Morty. His Beth and Diane died by evil Rick. This explains in the episode where Rick sees a picture of baby Morty and he starts to cry. He never experienced this himself. Also explains why he hates jerry so much because all the CFC universes force Beth to be with a jerry not because it’s here choice for majority of them.
LONG HAVE I WAITED!
Praise the log!
I can’t believe we finally got a Stan Lee cameo in Rick and Morty
Theres 3 kinds of portals. In the pilot, we see the blue one. Which is anything outside the curve. Green is inside the curve. Mix blue and green and you get yellow. Which is basically everywhere.
evil morty always won in every episode he is in. its great way to put an end to his character for atleast a long while. he might come back in a few seasons if they explore the multiverse outside of rick's curve but it was all great to watch.
My theory is because Diane is not in the finite curve because in the universe's she survives Rick is weaker because he gives up on science so those aren't in the curve That evil Morty can now find Diane because Diane is the one thing that truly weakens Rick maybe that's how he comes back later to finish Rick off (this episode shows they definitely knew each other before they have history and they hate each other Rick tried to shoot him in the head 4 times)
I interpret the yellow portal as mostly symbolic. It's _Evil Morty's_ portal technology. His is backengineered from the Rick gun, but this one is his. Rick always claimed he was basically a god. That this Morty now has his own trademark portal technology makes him Rick's equal. He's just as powerful as Rick now. Keep in mind that our Rick destroyed the Citadel once. Evil Morty did it again, drawing a direct parallel between them.
He built the Citadel to isolate all the universes that had the Rick's in it so that he could destroy them all at one time and then he had a change of heart
You know what is the most interesting thing about this? Previously we could always be sure that no matter the universe, Rick was going to be the smartest person there. But now the curve got destroyed and this could mean that the access to unvierses where Rick isn't the smartest person, has been opened. This means we might get stories with other people that have access to portal technology as Rick just isn't the smartest in these universes.
I don't even find it unbelievable Rick would go so far as to separate universe where he's not the smartest. This man used to wipe Morty's memories of any mistake he's made, minor or major. He's a prideful asshole.
I like how the episode begins like one of those boring alt episodes most shows have but immediately takes a turn
Looking healthy and slim Eric! Congrats man keep it up.
Well, this was a great season finale. And I see why season 5 felt weak compared to other seasons because all of the energy was put on to this episode. We have some fan theories that we’re both confirmed and debunked. I’m excited to see what season 6 has in store.
The first episode and probably the 3rd were kinda good. Also, the one with the Power Rangers stuff. But the finale is the best
I think the main thing which made this season feel a little… lazy… is the fact that almost every episode devolves into a massive killing/death spree.
thats not how inspiration works... you dont save up imagination juice for 1 ep and not use it on the other ep...
5:52 Rick Yoink!
now there are truly infinite possibilities
Fun fact , this is not the first time in the series where they talk about the central finite curve.
Its mentioned WAY earlier in the series when rick is standing before the council of ricks , and then its mentioned again during the "simple Rick's cookie" bit
Big time fan since ep1 here, never cared much for the whole Citadel and Evil Morty storyline... Way happier with episodic content !
I think Rick created the citadel and the central finite curve because after killing so many other ricks they decided to come to a truce and had our Rick build the citadel or something along those lines.
Something's baffling me Rick's so clever why he didn't build a time machine and come back to save his family from death he could do
He didn't destroy the curve, he made a hole out the curve. The hole closed back .
I fucking LOOOOOOVE that someone finally convinced Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland to make a truly massive and CANONICAL ending to a season, even bigger than the season 2 finale. And we finally have a true backstory for Rick Sanchez.
Also I am never calling him “evil” Morty again because he’s not evil, he’s just had ENOUGH of Rick’s bullshit and of Rick. So I will call him when the rest of the internet is calling him because that truly was a genius plan worthy of Mortiarty.
He may not be Evil but his actions towards his goal was down right genocidal and psychopathic
Yeah, he may not be Evil as we all see but he pulled off a Thanos and just leave like: "Haha get rekt".
I would say killing/torturing an infinite amount of your counterparts qualifies as "Evil". I think its spectrum though, so he's not unapologetically evil just for the sake of it. Beating Rick's system requires his actions
@@Northbravo evil is a point of view. All of those Morty’s were created, bred, and shipped off to be human shields for Rick’s everywhere. Ending their lives quickly so they don’t suffer any longer, I call that mercy.
No he's evil as s*** did you not see all the Ricks and Morty's he slaughtered and all the people he killed for his plan to work he might have motives that could be considered good but he's definitely evil
Remember that flashback Rick had BLUE portals that kept killing stuff like apples. Now that the backstory was fake for c137 but real for another Rick maybe it being blue also led to another universe but one outside the curve and that's what happens if you don't get it exactly right.
Or blue represented the true multiverse but after Rick saw how dangerous he was to even himself he made the central finite curve to trap all Rick's and keep the rest of the multiverse safe from Rick's
I think green is Rick's finite curve Blue is true infinity and yellow is evil Morty's finite curve
The blue portals were the ones that would ruin anything that would go through them and Rick was upset every time that happened and would later say he had no success. It's rather obvious that animators just used blue for defective portals. They literally made this episode so that people would stop overthinking it, but here you go now.
@@zatrioxjet7170 in tales of the citadel a green portal also melts a junkie Rick cause it's defective. Also it's rick and morty the whole point is to over think everything and then just forget about it anyway.
@@zatrioxjet7170 blue portals were only shown twice when Rick was failing at creating a working portal and when the American government made it (it looked like a Minecraft portal but blue) so since both of those would be disconnected from the CFC I would assume those are the real portals that go to a true multiverse