these builds are good and are very effective but i would like to point out that bad juju kills also fill up the super meter a lot quicker than that of other guns. With that being said, i would recommend bad juju for the void walker build and sun singer build. Voidwalker - bad juju kills = more supers Sunsinger - bad juju kills = more radiant skin and more tanginess
Thank you so much for the advice! When I first watched this video I assumed all the perks for common sense, in the minor tweaks you suggested couldn't help much. I've never been terribly good at the Crucible, but I've always done ok. I set both warlock classes to the perks outlined in the video. I used all suggested exotics and noticed extreme results! I ran five crucible games in all I had over 20 kills and at least a 3 kill death ratio!
But that grenade takes you down to half red health, and it's not an instakill. Magnetic, flux, fusion, and trip mine grenades are op, they have instakill and insane tracking when thrown, minus the trip mine of course, which doesn't have tracking, but makes up for it with huge blast radius.
I don't need a insa skill. See the problem I have with. Fusion grenades is that if you miss where you throw it, it's ineffective. When I'm throwing them normal or in sun singer mode, most of the time people either blink away or I just flat out miss meaning that that grenade is ineffective for my playstyle. Also I don't like solar grenades because people never stay in it long enough for it to be effective. So my grenade ends up being Firebolt with Viking funeral and touch of flame. It takes them down to almost dead, the scorch affect happens, and all I have to do is shoot them maybe once or 2x for them to die. And it's really effective when you get like 3 people at once because your able to shoot all 3 and get 3 kills. Or you could melee then which always works
PlanetDestiny How could you not recommend Bad Juju as the best option for the Obsidian Bomber build? It has become one of the best weapons in the game after the 1.1.1 patch, and he whole point of this build is to gather super energy, which is what Bad Juju does. It is by far the best choice for this build if you want to focus on your super, and even though I like the other options you gave, they did nothing to help the build itself. They are good weapons, but if you run this build for the constant supers, there is literally no better weapon than Bad Juju. There is nothing wrong with using those weapons if you simply want to do well in the crucible without using a specific build, but how could you recommend them over Bad Juju if you want quick supers? It does not take away from the video, but you made it seem like using the Bad Juju was a last choice if you did not have Thorn, Last Word, or Hawkmoon, which is just wrong. Don't get me wrong, I love all of those weapons, but if you want supers available faster, there is no better weapon than Bad Juju. I do love your videos, but that one part really caught me off guard, usually you guys think things through more. You could at least have recommended those other weapons and then talked about how Bad Juju works well with this build, and gone into a little more detail about its signature perk, which gives you super energy after each kill, reloads instantly, and adds extra damage for a short time. You guys are great though, keep making great videos :)
BBDRAGOON -- you should change your name to King Warlock! I love both of these builds! Can't wait to try the void walker one like tonight, and I've always shied away from Sunsinger because it doesn't seem as aggressive as Voidwalker, but I shall try this Sunsinger build and see how it goes for me. GREAT job, dude and thanks for sharing!
Shotgun tips: You need glue tac. yep. If you don't like your TV/Monitor becoming a smudged screen, ignore this. Use any sniper scope. cover the whole circle. No further out. Done. equip shotgun. Especially for ones without a scope with just a rail. Useful for other guns too, as they're all centred.
I've been using the Obsidian Bomber forever now. Exact same setup except for the weapons. I'd recommend Bad Juju hands down, otherwise use what you are most comfortable with. Amazing build for both Pve and Pvp. I'll try the Sun Shrieker because im always unsure what to do with my sunsinger ^^
That Obsidian Bomber build when using Bad Juju + Obsidian Mind is insane in PvE, especially when going up against large groups of enemies. It's really fun!
I play Hunter most of the time, and my art is stealth. I would normally have a Patience and Time for this. So what I would do is add Vanish to Blade dancer so in a need to revive friends in a Nightfall, there you go. I would also add Escape Artist for when someone comes out of nowhere and I panic knife them. I will also have the one where you crouch to go invisible so I can sneak around or revive in Nightfalls. Lastly the perk that allows you to extend invisibility. So to sum it all up. Go invisible route.
I'm all about Viking funeral and touch of flame for my sun singer warlock! that burn damage with the fireboat grenade really helps with my damage output.
Just a heads up, the Flame shield will always proc when you damage an enemy, and with Radiance active, as long as your Scorch Melee is fully charged and the enemy doesn't have an overshield, it's a one-hit-kill.
Ok there are two effective builds for sunsinger (used by all the very top players)- firebolt grenade, any glide, fireborn (the decrease of damage one doesn't work), flame shield, viking funeral, and touch of flame. the other build is the same besides having fusion nades, radiant will and gift of the sun. This build is was clearly someone looking at the sunsinger perks for the first time and taking a wild guess as to what will be effective.
One thing I love about Angel of Light is that it can disorient players sometimes. They expect you to continue falling but instead you sit in the air and continue to shoot at them. But, he is still right, you are quite the sitting duck when doing that. I always like to remember, if you can see everything, then everything can see you. Those high vantage points can always be dangerous.
the most effective sunsinger build i would call pyromaniac. full discipline, firebolt grenade, solar shield, with ignite and touch of flame. to top it all off using thorn with it. using claws of ahamkara would be a bonus. eveything burns to death
I run a similar Voidwalker build with The Ram these days. Getting Life Steal and Soul Rip from melee kills is just so ridiculously powerful. Throw in the extra armor the Ram gives you along with Bloom and Annihilate, and you've got a top tier explosion master. Plus you look like a badass. :D
I'd recommend touch of flame and viking funeral over radiant will and angel of light. It adds an additional 35 (with just touch of flame) and another 35 (viking funeral). It's a very strong burn and helps out alot in alot of different ways. I find it very useful as players tend to make more mistakes while they are been burned which I can capitalize on. If you use thorn the burn and thorns burn do not stack how ever.
I've been rocking a variation of the Obsidian Bomber, and it's damn good, especially in PvE. 100% intellect + bad juju + Obsidian Mind + soul rip = bombs for days. It's good to have other armor and weapons that cause higher cooldowns for other abilities too though.
claws are good but maybe apotheosis veil for the sun shreiker so when your on a streak from slaying and the enemy has your health down you can gain it back very quickly and maintain momentum before they gain their bearings.
I used the sun shreiker build before this video and I can say it's very solid and strong, especially in rumble where there are lots of cqc engagements where you'll be using shotguns and melees a lot. Two excellent builds, great video. +Planet Destiny
lot of holes in the sun singer build, dont prioritize defense because its been proven with max defense on a warlock you only get around an extra 8 hitpoints id prioritize agility or recovery
The double grenade perk over angel of light for sure, and you have to go the heart of praxic fire for the sunsinger builder, obsidian bomber sounds epic though, keen to try that
Angel of the void-euros or red death,apotheosis veil,scatter grenade,scatter nova bomb,life steal,embrace the void,the hungering,blink. Fusion rifles work well with this build all other items can be picked by the player
I run a slightly similar build except I use the Skull of Dire Ahamkara and Embrace the Void in concert with each other. My whole goal is to trigger energy drain as much as possible, to get as many grenades as possible, in order to get as many nova bombs as possible. Just rinse, wash, and repeat.
With the sunsinger build, I think fusion grenades are better, because if you have a good toss it an instant kill. I always like to pop my head around wall with people capturing a zone, with the gift of the sun perk and get a double kill.
Some things you forgot to mention, 1. Bad JuJu generates extra super on kill, good for both setups 2. Claws of Ahamkara lets you have TWO one shot melees!
I'm a primary sunsinger Warlock and I'm going to agree with 99 percent of this. The claws as gauntlets are the best choice. 2 grenades as a perk is very helpful. Thorn is my weapon of choice. It's a beast used correctly
The way she shoots the shotgun & abuse the "full auto" perk ..... Shotgun = Zoom in & shoot. The point of the perks "SHOT package , Range Finder, crowd control" etc. can't wait for that special ammo update
Awesome upload I love all your videos! I would like to add a pro tip for crucible players as a bonus though; I am not good with wording so bear with me. Anyhow, my tip for aspiring pvp'ers is to treat crucible like you would a game of chess. For example if you know someone is around a corner you have to assume they are using a tactic that is the most advantageous for them. I.E. assume they have that Felwinter's Lie (Shotgun with sniper rifle range) and plan your counter tactic accordingly. But do this sort of mental synopsis before entering any room. If the next room opens up to a vast field, assume that there will be a sniper/scout/pulse rifle user training their sights on your entrance. Basically you can't just run around all willy nilly, you should be constantly playing scenarios on your mind and using the best tactic for the assumed encounter. I am sure a lot of players already do this. This strategy of gameplay is what I have heard referred to as the "Meta Game," so if you have heard that before then yeah that's what they were talking about.
I know, I know... But I'm just gonna throw this out there cause I'm that one guy. I totally agree with you on the 'Obsidian Bomber' but for the 'Sun Shreiker' I'd suggest = Firebolt + Radiant Skin + Viking Funeral + Touch of Flame. The burn that this causes lasts for a flipping 14 seconds, leaves peeps nearly dead as well as out of combat, so their teammates have less backup, plus you can damage multiple targets, leaving them weak. Once again, I know that many people are aware of this and want this nerfed, but I honestly don't think it needs to be nerfed TOO hard.
***** Both, in fact Obsidian Bomber is especially useful in PvE because you can generally get more kills at once with your Nova, because they'll usually be clumped together
I use a similar setup to the Obsidian Bomber in PvE, Bloom can come in extremely handy in most situations, especially in the Abyss section of the Crota's End Raid.
***** Chaining supers with a Titan or another Nova Bomber Warlock in PVE is really fun. If you blast enough enemies in PVE with NB, you will get between 1/2 to 2/3 of your next super charged instantly. The PS4 exclusive expansion strike is really good for it. I prefer Sun Shrieker in PVP, because I just can't stand Bad Juju in PVP... thing is no good in it.
PlanetDestiny what is the benefits of using shatter on nova bomb, because i like to use lance to take out players in line of sight if i'm getting surrounded and use my acon bolt suros and plug1.1. for most of the killing if i don't have heavy
Another suggestion is using embrace the void+axion bolt for EVEN faster Nova bombs. I feel bloom is a waste because Nova bomb just destroys everything anyways
you know I've played the "angel of light perk" but it took me until I watched this video and you said "the only class perk that allows for aiming accuracy in air," and it hit me: HUNTER EXOTIC HELM ANGEL HUNTER, MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW.
Everyone forgets to mention when you have radiance and a full melee charge and you melee someone its an instant kill So claws of ahamkara with this build gives you 2 one shot melee attacks Plus minus damage this build is insane.
decided to rewatch this video 4 months later. I still like the ideas and they've done well for me. but now for the sun shrieker I also equip the Ram which is just insane with Radiant skin. like oh baby. this is a great video and just wanted to leave my later on suggestion, use the Ram. and for the Obsidian Bomber, try Bad Juju just to help with the super
Honestly, with my Sunsinger build, I like Starfire Protocol as my exotic. I know it's generally considered kind of weak, but it lets me use Angel of Light with Gift of the Sun. Lots of sticks, and Angel of Light is a pretty good PvP ability to catch people off gaurd.
That's the exact same Voidwalker build I run in PvP, though Obsidian Mind is kind of poor for PvP and the other 'good' Voidwalker Exotic (Voidfang Vestements) is wasted when you run Scatter Grenade, I think your Voidwalker Build will become extremely powerful when Nothing Manacles comes out, which gives you an overshield whenever you kill someone with Void abilities. Love the Sun Shrieker too, though Firebolt seems wasted without Touch of Flame and Viking Funeral. Great builds regardless of my opinions.
I use a zone control setup because I use my nova bombs on the zones because when the enemies are capturing a zone I throw it in then a vortex nade on the zone it makes harder to the zones and to get out but I suggest it if you like control or holding big areas for opening attacks
Very nice builds. I have rolled each of these with slight variations. Would you say that the double melee charge is close to, equal to, or greater than double grenades?
Interesting builds. I tried using firebolt grenades with the whole viking funeral set up, but I found it boring... Fusion grenade + Gift of the sun is much more rewarding for me.
These builds are great but for the one that restores super energy off of melee kills, use shotguns like wolf slayers oath that has the close and/or personal perk. A body shot with this weapon gives 25%bonus damage to the melee So if shotgun doesnt one hit kill them then melee is stronger to finish them
I just recently got both the Bad JuJu and Obsidian Obsidian Mind perks that go along with Obsidian Nova Bomber. Oh my is it lovely. Sure the Bad JuJu doesn't have the best impact, but holy crap is it worth it to blast out nova bombs that fast.
I switched the firebolt for fusion grenade maxed out recovery and defense used gift of the sun instead of angel of light and switched balanced glide for boosted so I can bunny hop, but I'm looking forward to trying the obsidian bomber looks like fun
Using vortex lest you aim better but while decreasing aoe it dose more damadge and aoe than each pellet of the Split Nova (2x size) it also makes schure nothing survives your Nova You can Pierce Titan Schilds aswell killing everyone Inside it also given you aerea Denial wich gives you enough Time to re take aim if there are reinforcements
There is just something about this steady glide ability that lets you stand in mid air that makes me feel like a PvE boss or something cool like that. Yeah bitch, I got cool abilities...WARLOCK MASTER RACE.
Not a fan of your Nova Bomber build. Obsidian Mind's main perk is kind of wasted in PvP, as it's only worthwhile if you manage to kill 3+ enemies with a single Nova bomb which is rare even in Control. If you combine it with Bad Juju then it can be viable, but it's probably better just to run different Exotics.
apotheos1s Skull of Dire Ahamkara is better for PvP casting. It basically gives you The Hunger for free plus makes you hard to shoot out of you Nova Bomb animation.
Ross Mckellar Blade Dancer is the easiest Super to get multi-kills with. It's the only Super that allows you to chain multiple kills while moving around the map. Mult-kills with Nova Bomb requires you to get lucky enough to encounter a group of enemies.
I like bad juju but it isnt really a pvp wepon. I would probably use saterine rapier as it deals more damage for body and head. The way I see it bad juju is great for the first part of the Crota raid and thats about it
It's a shame that they nerfed auto rifles as the perfect compliment to your SunShrieker build would be Monte Carlo. It would constantly recharge your melee giving you almost continuous Flame Shields, especially with the Claws.
these builds are good and are very effective but i would like to point out that bad juju kills also fill up the super meter a lot quicker than that of other guns. With that being said, i would recommend bad juju for the void walker build and sun singer build. Voidwalker - bad juju kills = more supers
Sunsinger - bad juju kills = more radiant skin and more tanginess
"I am a big fan of Thorn and The Last Word" I would have never guessed...
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Thank you so much for the advice! When I first watched this video I assumed all the perks for common sense, in the minor tweaks you suggested couldn't help much. I've never been terribly good at the Crucible, but I've always done ok. I set both warlock classes to the perks outlined in the video. I used all suggested exotics and noticed extreme results! I ran five crucible games in all I had over 20 kills and at least a 3 kill death ratio!
Cool builds, I'll have to try these out!
Firebolt with touch of flame and viking funeral is probs the most OP granade in the game, its like a guaranted kill or assist.
Hit someone with that and it takes down the hole sheild and the burn takes the heath to an epilogue shot to kill.
But that grenade takes you down to half red health, and it's not an instakill. Magnetic, flux, fusion, and trip mine grenades are op, they have instakill and insane tracking when thrown, minus the trip mine of course, which doesn't have tracking, but makes up for it with huge blast radius.
I don't need a insa skill. See the problem I have with. Fusion grenades is that if you miss where you throw it, it's ineffective. When I'm throwing them normal or in sun singer mode, most of the time people either blink away or I just flat out miss meaning that that grenade is ineffective for my playstyle. Also I don't like solar grenades because people never stay in it long enough for it to be effective. So my grenade ends up being Firebolt with Viking funeral and touch of flame. It takes them down to almost dead, the scorch affect happens, and all I have to do is shoot them maybe once or 2x for them to die. And it's really effective when you get like 3 people at once because your able to shoot all 3 and get 3 kills. Or you could melee then which always works
SupremeHotdog I always laugh at Sunbros who don't have touch of flame. Its like, what are you doing? Your build makes no sense.
xSupah313 agreed .. fusion > the firebolt/scatter grenades.. if you stick them its a kill
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What's the best armour piece for the sun shrieker?
Be the first team to beat crota just using the Iron banner armor.
CarboN Try watching the video dumb dumb
PlanetDestiny How could you not recommend Bad Juju as the best option for the Obsidian Bomber build? It has become one of the best weapons in the game after the 1.1.1 patch, and he whole point of this build is to gather super energy, which is what Bad Juju does. It is by far the best choice for this build if you want to focus on your super, and even though I like the other options you gave, they did nothing to help the build itself. They are good weapons, but if you run this build for the constant supers, there is literally no better weapon than Bad Juju. There is nothing wrong with using those weapons if you simply want to do well in the crucible without using a specific build, but how could you recommend them over Bad Juju if you want quick supers? It does not take away from the video, but you made it seem like using the Bad Juju was a last choice if you did not have Thorn, Last Word, or Hawkmoon, which is just wrong. Don't get me wrong, I love all of those weapons, but if you want supers available faster, there is no better weapon than Bad Juju. I do love your videos, but that one part really caught me off guard, usually you guys think things through more. You could at least have recommended those other weapons and then talked about how Bad Juju works well with this build, and gone into a little more detail about its signature perk, which gives you super energy after each kill, reloads instantly, and adds extra damage for a short time. You guys are great though, keep making great videos :)
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I would do something differently... putting on heart of praxic fire and gift of the sun and then let the grenades rain down ^^
These are like the exact classes I use, they are fun and powerful
BBDRAGOON -- you should change your name to King Warlock! I love both of these builds! Can't wait to try the void walker one like tonight, and I've always shied away from Sunsinger because it doesn't seem as aggressive as Voidwalker, but I shall try this Sunsinger build and see how it goes for me.
GREAT job, dude and thanks for sharing!
Shotgun tips:
You need glue tac. yep.
If you don't like your TV/Monitor becoming a smudged screen, ignore this.
Use any sniper scope. cover the whole circle. No further out.
Done. equip shotgun. Especially for ones without a scope with just a rail.
Useful for other guns too, as they're all centred.
I've been using the Obsidian Bomber forever now. Exact same setup except for the weapons. I'd recommend Bad Juju hands down, otherwise use what you are most comfortable with. Amazing build for both Pve and Pvp. I'll try the Sun Shrieker because im always unsure what to do with my sunsinger ^^
That Obsidian Bomber build when using Bad Juju + Obsidian Mind is insane in PvE, especially when going up against large groups of enemies. It's really fun!
I play Hunter most of the time, and my art is stealth. I would normally have a Patience and Time for this. So what I would do is add Vanish to Blade dancer so in a need to revive friends in a Nightfall, there you go. I would also add Escape Artist for when someone comes out of nowhere and I panic knife them. I will also have the one where you crouch to go invisible so I can sneak around or revive in Nightfalls. Lastly the perk that allows you to extend invisibility. So to sum it all up. Go invisible route.
Praxic fire touch of flame firebolt radiant skin works wonders
I'm all about Viking funeral and touch of flame for my sun singer warlock! that burn damage with the fireboat grenade really helps with my damage output.
Just a heads up, the Flame shield will always proc when you damage an enemy, and with Radiance active, as long as your Scorch Melee is fully charged and the enemy doesn't have an overshield, it's a one-hit-kill.
Ok there are two effective builds for sunsinger (used by all the very top players)- firebolt grenade, any glide, fireborn (the decrease of damage one doesn't work), flame shield, viking funeral, and touch of flame. the other build is the same besides having fusion nades, radiant will and gift of the sun. This build is was clearly someone looking at the sunsinger perks for the first time and taking a wild guess as to what will be effective.
One thing I love about Angel of Light is that it can disorient players sometimes. They expect you to continue falling but instead you sit in the air and continue to shoot at them. But, he is still right, you are quite the sitting duck when doing that. I always like to remember, if you can see everything, then everything can see you. Those high vantage points can always be dangerous.
Lol I noticed that phryme instrumental in the background also, you guys always have dope music on your videos, bravo!
the most effective sunsinger build i would call pyromaniac. full discipline, firebolt grenade, solar shield, with ignite and touch of flame. to top it all off using thorn with it. using claws of ahamkara would be a bonus. eveything burns to death
I run a similar Voidwalker build with The Ram these days. Getting Life Steal and Soul Rip from melee kills is just so ridiculously powerful. Throw in the extra armor the Ram gives you along with Bloom and Annihilate, and you've got a top tier explosion master.
Plus you look like a badass. :D
I'd recommend touch of flame and viking funeral over radiant will and angel of light. It adds an additional 35 (with just touch of flame) and another 35 (viking funeral). It's a very strong burn and helps out alot in alot of different ways. I find it very useful as players tend to make more mistakes while they are been burned which I can capitalize on. If you use thorn the burn and thorns burn do not stack how ever.
It feels really good to have an entire team on a control point and using that nova bomb
I've been rocking a variation of the Obsidian Bomber, and it's damn good, especially in PvE. 100% intellect + bad juju + Obsidian Mind + soul rip = bombs for days. It's good to have other armor and weapons that cause higher cooldowns for other abilities too though.
claws are good but maybe apotheosis veil for the sun shreiker so when your on a streak from slaying and the enemy has your health down you can gain it back very quickly and maintain momentum before they gain their bearings.
I used the sun shreiker build before this video and I can say it's very solid and strong, especially in rumble where there are lots of cqc engagements where you'll be using shotguns and melees a lot. Two excellent builds, great video. +Planet Destiny
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The Ram would also be a good exotic for the Sunshrieker, increased armor from Strength of the Ram makes you even tankier with that Radiant skin.
lot of holes in the sun singer build, dont prioritize defense because its been proven with max defense on a warlock you only get around an extra 8 hitpoints id prioritize agility or recovery
The double grenade perk over angel of light for sure, and you have to go the heart of praxic fire for the sunsinger builder, obsidian bomber sounds epic though, keen to try that
Angel of the void-euros or red death,apotheosis veil,scatter grenade,scatter nova bomb,life steal,embrace the void,the hungering,blink. Fusion rifles work well with this build all other items can be picked by the player
I run a slightly similar build except I use the Skull of Dire Ahamkara and Embrace the Void in concert with each other. My whole goal is to trigger energy drain as much as possible, to get as many grenades as possible, in order to get as many nova bombs as possible. Just rinse, wash, and repeat.
Thank you for putting it out there! They're all equally matched, it's just how good you are we it.
With the sunsinger build, I think fusion grenades are better, because if you have a good toss it an instant kill. I always like to pop my head around wall with people capturing a zone, with the gift of the sun perk and get a double kill.
Some things you forgot to mention,
1. Bad JuJu generates extra super on kill, good for both setups
2. Claws of Ahamkara lets you have TWO one shot melees!
I'm a primary sunsinger Warlock and I'm going to agree with 99 percent of this. The claws as gauntlets are the best choice. 2 grenades as a perk is very helpful. Thorn is my weapon of choice. It's a beast used correctly
The way she shoots the shotgun & abuse the "full auto" perk ..... Shotgun = Zoom in & shoot. The point of the perks "SHOT package , Range Finder, crowd control" etc. can't wait for that special ammo update
Awesome upload I love all your videos!
I would like to add a pro tip for crucible players as a bonus though;
I am not good with wording so bear with me. Anyhow, my tip for aspiring pvp'ers is to treat crucible like you would a game of chess. For example if you know someone is around a corner you have to assume they are using a tactic that is the most advantageous for them. I.E. assume they have that Felwinter's Lie (Shotgun with sniper rifle range) and plan your counter tactic accordingly. But do this sort of mental synopsis before entering any room. If the next room opens up to a vast field, assume that there will be a sniper/scout/pulse rifle user training their sights on your entrance. Basically you can't just run around all willy nilly, you should be constantly playing scenarios on your mind and using the best tactic for the assumed encounter. I am sure a lot of players already do this. This strategy of gameplay is what I have heard referred to as the "Meta Game," so if you have heard that before then yeah that's what they were talking about.
Another sunsinger build with voidfang vestements. Double firebolt grenades basically and a Bad-Juju or Thorn to help finish them off.
claws is going to be boss for arc locks. only thing is I haven't decided if the way to go is int.,str. or int.,disc.
I didn't hear it...maybe I missed it.
Important to run 100 intellect on that void build
100 dicipline or strength on that sunsinger. ...
That sun "shrieker" itched me the whole time
I know, I know... But I'm just gonna throw this out there cause I'm that one guy. I totally agree with you on the 'Obsidian Bomber' but for the 'Sun Shreiker' I'd suggest = Firebolt + Radiant Skin + Viking Funeral + Touch of Flame. The burn that this causes lasts for a flipping 14 seconds, leaves peeps nearly dead as well as out of combat, so their teammates have less backup, plus you can damage multiple targets, leaving them weak. Once again, I know that many people are aware of this and want this nerfed, but I honestly don't think it needs to be nerfed TOO hard.
R.I.P viking funeral
Nice gameplay BBK. You're deadly with Bad Juju. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for these builds, are they for both PvP and PvE or solely for PvP?
***** Both, in fact Obsidian Bomber is especially useful in PvE because you can generally get more kills at once with your Nova, because they'll usually be clumped together
I use a similar setup to the Obsidian Bomber in PvE, Bloom can come in extremely handy in most situations, especially in the Abyss section of the Crota's End Raid.
***** Chaining supers with a Titan or another Nova Bomber Warlock in PVE is really fun. If you blast enough enemies in PVE with NB, you will get between 1/2 to 2/3 of your next super charged instantly. The PS4 exclusive expansion strike is really good for it. I prefer Sun Shrieker in PVP, because I just can't stand Bad Juju in PVP... thing is no good in it.
PlanetDestiny what is the benefits of using shatter on nova bomb, because i like to use lance to take out players in line of sight if i'm getting surrounded and use my acon bolt suros and plug1.1. for most of the killing if i don't have heavy
PlanetDestiny oh and does bloom chain? i feel like it dose but i'd like to know for sure.
I personally rthink that I will choose double grenades than having slight cover advantage.
my favorite build is void vestments as a sunsinger with 2 fusion grenades equipped, so I spawn with double grenades all the time
Would it be good to use Skull Of Dire Ahamkara, because it increases the potency of soul rip?
I would use Vortex in Obsidian Bomber instead beacause the size of the explosion coves about the same amount of space and isn't in a strait line
Axion Bolt is clearly the best Voidwalker grenade.
Another suggestion is using embrace the void+axion bolt for EVEN faster Nova bombs. I feel bloom is a waste because Nova bomb just destroys everything anyways
you know I've played the "angel of light perk" but it took me until I watched this video and you said "the only class perk that allows for aiming accuracy in air," and it hit me:
HUNTER EXOTIC HELM ANGEL HUNTER, MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW.
Lance helps with long range targets pff...plus the angry magic track. Godly
This is the first time I've seen an actually human PlanetDestiny player.
Everyone forgets to mention when you have radiance and a full melee charge and you melee someone its an instant kill So claws of ahamkara with this build gives you 2 one shot melee attacks Plus minus damage this build is insane.
decided to rewatch this video 4 months later. I still like the ideas and they've done well for me. but now for the sun shrieker I also equip the Ram which is just insane with Radiant skin. like oh baby. this is a great video and just wanted to leave my later on suggestion, use the Ram. and for the Obsidian Bomber, try Bad Juju just to help with the super
Honestly, with my Sunsinger build, I like Starfire Protocol as my exotic. I know it's generally considered kind of weak, but it lets me use Angel of Light with Gift of the Sun. Lots of sticks, and Angel of Light is a pretty good PvP ability to catch people off gaurd.
Wouldn't Bad Juju be the best primary to use for Obsidian Bomber with its String of Curses perk?
Best build for Sun Samurai: Monte Carlo, claws of ahamkhara, and most of the same perks as sun shrieker, make it a pure melee tank
That's the exact same Voidwalker build I run in PvP, though Obsidian Mind is kind of poor for PvP and the other 'good' Voidwalker Exotic (Voidfang Vestements) is wasted when you run Scatter Grenade, I think your Voidwalker Build will become extremely powerful when Nothing Manacles comes out, which gives you an overshield whenever you kill someone with Void abilities. Love the Sun Shrieker too, though Firebolt seems wasted without Touch of Flame and Viking Funeral. Great builds regardless of my opinions.
I use a zone control setup because I use my nova bombs on the zones because when the enemies are capturing a zone I throw it in then a vortex nade on the zone it makes harder to the zones and to get out but I suggest it if you like control or holding big areas for opening attacks
I noticed for the Sunsinger you didnt include Equipment like you did with the Void Walker class in the beginning. Please discuss
Really great builds!
I use bad juju and embrace the void with my obsidian mind cuz that build is focused to getting your super up asap.
Very nice builds. I have rolled each of these with slight variations.
Would you say that the double melee charge is close to, equal to, or greater than double grenades?
Heart of Praxic Fire is a better exotic chest piece for the Sun Shrieker Build. Praise the Sun perk is OP
I don't even play Warlock and it's still cool to watch.
Interesting builds. I tried using firebolt grenades with the whole viking funeral set up, but I found it boring... Fusion grenade + Gift of the sun is much more rewarding for me.
For voidwalker isn't embrace the void and soul rip a better choice?
I love seeing against all odds it was my first legendary heavy and it's an amazing one at that
make sure to rock the claws of ahamakra with the sun signer build for two melees and to reload your shot gun faster,
Nice voidwalker build. The sunsinger build needs work though.
These builds are great but for the one that restores super energy off of melee kills, use shotguns like wolf slayers oath that has the close and/or personal perk.
A body shot with this weapon gives 25%bonus damage to the melee
So if shotgun doesnt one hit kill them then melee is stronger to finish them
You'd actually choose Claws of Ahamkara over the ever-so-sexy Heart of Praxic Fire (featuring the greatest perk PRAISE THE SUN)?
Interesting.
Bad Juju + Obsidian Bomber Build = Total Destruction
I just recently got both the Bad JuJu and Obsidian Obsidian Mind perks that go along with Obsidian Nova Bomber. Oh my is it lovely. Sure the Bad JuJu doesn't have the best impact, but holy crap is it worth it to blast out nova bombs that fast.
The Apothesis Veil works great with Sun Shrieker.
i prefer apotheosis veil helm for sun shrieker so that if you are about to die you can use it and get all your health back to continue the fight
With the new Icarus perk on guns like the Jewel of Osiris, can make Angel of Light a lot more viable
Replace thorn with bad juju (granted the damage and overall effectiveness will drop) and you'll have even more super meter build up.
Obsidian mind plus kellbreakers robes= possible surviving of golden gun at range.
Nice vid! :) will you guys cover the hunter elite builds?
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all your weapons seem to have great stability, is that a perk or are all your guns have stability upgrades?
I switched the firebolt for fusion grenade maxed out recovery and defense used gift of the sun instead of angel of light and switched balanced glide for boosted so I can bunny hop, but I'm looking forward to trying the obsidian bomber looks like fun
Using vortex lest you aim better but while decreasing aoe it dose more damadge and aoe than each pellet of the Split Nova (2x size) it also makes schure nothing survives your Nova You can Pierce Titan Schilds aswell killing everyone Inside it also given you aerea Denial wich gives you enough Time to re take aim if there are reinforcements
what machine gun are you using? the 61/73 one
I have everything needed to be a space magic bomb slinging guardian but I praise the sun.
I'm going to try this thanks.
I'd rather use Skull of Dire Ahamkara instead of Obsidian Mind because really, how often are you gonna find 3+ enemies huddled together.
another build: Apotheosis Leech: Apotheosis veil + Red Death or SUROS + Life Steal
There is just something about this steady glide ability that lets you stand in mid air that makes me feel like a PvE boss or something cool like that. Yeah bitch, I got cool abilities...WARLOCK MASTER RACE.
What puts me off this is the fact that the weapon they are using is thorn aka the scrubcannon
The thorn gameplay looks exactly like what I run.
what about with obsidian bomber using Angry Magic and Embrace the Void?
Not a fan of your Nova Bomber build. Obsidian Mind's main perk is kind of wasted in PvP, as it's only worthwhile if you manage to kill 3+ enemies with a single Nova bomb which is rare even in Control. If you combine it with Bad Juju then it can be viable, but it's probably better just to run different Exotics.
apotheos1s Yeah, I agree. The Sunsinger build wasn't bad though.
apotheos1s Skull of Dire Ahamkara is better for PvP casting. It basically gives you The Hunger for free plus makes you hard to shoot out of you Nova Bomb animation.
The build does make the Thorn bounty a little more bearable. But I do prefer the Sunsinger build as I like using sticky grenades.
apotheos1s What do you mean rare? I constantly get multi kills with nova bomb and blade dancer in control.
Ross Mckellar Blade Dancer is the easiest Super to get multi-kills with. It's the only Super that allows you to chain multiple kills while moving around the map.
Mult-kills with Nova Bomb requires you to get lucky enough to encounter a group of enemies.
I like bad juju but it isnt really a pvp wepon. I would probably use saterine rapier as it deals more damage for body and head. The way I see it bad juju is great for the first part of the Crota raid and thats about it
It's a shame that they nerfed auto rifles as the perfect compliment to your SunShrieker build would be Monte Carlo. It would constantly recharge your melee giving you almost continuous Flame Shields, especially with the Claws.
Do some titan builds please! :D
Two from striker, and maybe one or two from defender would be awesome ^_^
What gloves is the obsidian bomber wearing?
I use flux grenades with double grenades for sun shrieker, cause its a guaranteed one shot even if u miss a grenade