To clear things up: for the most part, the extended version is simply the album version. However, the record companies would cut the songs down for radio, and that's how we get the shorter versions. They even did it to (of all songs) Roundabout by Yes! Gasp! That's why album oriented rock stations were so popular, back then. We got to hear the full songs, not the radio-friendly versions.
Yes! And on AOR stations, we also got to hear whole albums once in a while, and definitely deep cuts and long songs! (That's when the DJ's would go have a "smoke"!)
"album-oriented radio stations" ruled back in the day. CHUM FM in the Toronto area is notable... as a kid it made a big difference being able to hear a whole side of Pink Floyd or whatever lying in bed at night.
Golden Earring Twilight Zone 1982 That was a great hit My dad listen to that song back in '82 when it came out when the station played that hit everyone have their radios turned up listen to the rhythm of the guitar played and that was the best song of the early 80's. That is my favorite Golden Earring Song. Chod, here's a brief history you might like to know: Did you know: on May 11, 1984 Golden Earring Was ready to play at the six flags adventure theme park in New Jersey When a Fire break out at the haunted castle 30 people were inside the haunted castle When a Fire break out at the strobe room flames roaring down the strobe room covering the emergency exits of black smoke the whole building covered up in smoke it took the lives of 8 teenagers: Joseph Beyroutey 17, Nicola Calazza 18, Jose Carrion Jr 17, Tina Genovese 15, Christopher Harrison 17, Eric Rodriguez 18, Lenny Ruiz, 17, & Samuel Valentin Jr 17 Eight teenagers died in the corridor they were 40 yards from the exit when the fire surrounded the building and the building burned to the ground it was the worst fire in six flags adventure theme park in history it's been 37 years since the haunted castle fire Disaster, when you headed to a haunted theme attraction ready to get your scare on It's always to have fun with the family and it was a great time to get scared at the haunted attraction The 1984 Haunted Castle Fire Will remember of the eight victims Had died in the fire, thanks to new laws of safety and a new warning for the fire safety officials of letting things slip through the cracks.
Back in those days everyone went to parties after the bar closed.....also everyone had a rec room in the basement of their home with couches, dance floor, bars, and record players, stereo systems and some had the blue lights or red lights.....Fun times!
Back in the day, songs were released as singles, on a 45 rpm record. Those songs got played on what I always called "short attention span" radio. The longer versions were on the full 33 rpm albums. At some point, they stopped releasing songs as singles, which is just fine.
Exactly. You needed to find some good album oriented FM radio stations that respected the full songs. Fortunately this was a viable option when I was growing up in the greater Kansas City area in the ancient, musically halcyon days of late '60s and most of the '70s.
Short versions are intended for radio play on heavily commercial radio stations. Station managers control the play lists and they schedule a number of songs set to play and play it quickly so their is enough room for commercials to play out. Having to said that, the extended songs are used for when the other songs have been already been played, the play list has a gap. There can’t be ever dead air on a show. So longer songs fit in. Secondly it gives the Radio DJ time to go to take a bathroom break
One of the absolute best tunes ever! Thanks man! And 100% for sure, it wasn't the artists that made the choice...it was the record companies and the radio stations... Nothing more than 3 minutes somehow became "the norm"............
Hey Jude was the exception clocking in at nearly 8:00 because it was The Beatles. But, 2 years later Grand Funk Railroad did it with I’m Your Captain(Closer To Home) but to this day you will hear Hey Jude on radio but GFR not so much.
They didn't do an extended version, the record company did a " Radio cut" or this song MTv video version. 3 minutes about was standard . Way back it was AM radio. Two famous examples , Marty Robbins" El Paso" and the Doors " Light My Fire" . Marty cut out 10 seconds to 4:21 (1959) huge hit great story song. Light my Fire was 7 minutes they made a short version for radio #1 hit. Money talks
Original name of the song was When the Bullet Hits the Bone... Their record producers suggested they change the songs name due to the violent connotation of " when the bullet hits the bone" And so we got this Gem TWILIGHT ZONE..One Bad Azzz song by an Outstanding Band!!!
Another song from the MTV era of the 80s to mid 90s that I just can't hear without thinking of the video. Back then there were so many hits with an accompanying video that it seems you are missing something without it. It's like listening to just the soundtrack of a movie instead of watching the movie.
I love it, that side-to-side head move you were doing following the bass riff on the extended middle is exactly the side-to-side head movement the bass player used in his live performances to keep the riff going.
Music should touch your soul. Bring back beautiful memories. It should be fun, make you smile, make you cry, make you want to dance or fall in Love. Music of today is none of that. I miss the old days! Wish people of today would bring it back. Loved your reaction and description of yesterdays music. ❤
Extended version of the song is the original version paid I'm pretty sure cuz I was there for a lot of MTV video world premieres and I remember this was one of them. of them
Actually they made normal versions and THEN shortened versions for radio play. If you had a cool local radio station though they played the long version and at least one night a week they played whole albums.
Legendary Dutch band. This was their big MTV hit in the 80s. I've played this song with a couple of different cover bands. Best track of theirs, IMO, When The Lady Smiles. Radar Love is their most prolific hit ( 70s ). Another 45 Miles and Going To The Run are nice tracks of theirs, as well.
the extended version is, almost invariably, the original version, or "album version". The AM radio stations of the time didn't want to spend much more than 3 min. of air time on any one song, so the record companies would cut down the "extended version" (the bands INTENDED version), and release it as a single so that the radio stations would give the song air time. More air time generally meant more record sales...........extended version generally means intended version........
I worked in radio back in the 70s/80s and my dad was in radio for over 70 years. There was no "extended" version of any song. The record companies and radio stations required a recording to be between 2:50 and 3:00 for your record to even be considered for air play, so the record companies butchered them. Some radio stations even tweaked the pitch, just for the precious seconds that were to be used for advertising. It was all about the advertising $$$$. Things have changed for the most part... except the greed.
To your question: the extended version was the album version, the short version was cut to fit AM radio format as a “single”. Those were normally cut to fit the 3 minute max rule, although there were some exceptions made.. When FM “Underground” radio came out in the mid sixties, they would play albums, and so the late sixties and seventies became album oriented rock...and you got “concept albums”. Music consumption became album focused and you had “record stores” to fill the need. When streaming started...Napster etc. and people could download single songs., The Whole focus of the music “BUSINESS” moved away from albums...people’s attention spans got shorter....they didn’t want to invest the time to sit down and devote 40 or so minutes at a time to a record the way we all routinely did back then. If people wanted and demanded albums again, the music business would provide them and musicians would again return to that format and you would have longer songs.
For many years, I wanted to listen to one of the great rock stations of all time, WMMS in Cleveland. I lived about 60 miles from Cleveland so it should have been easy to pick up, but a local country station not too far down the dial tended to block it out on radios that did not have great tuners. They would play album versions all the time. Bless you for choosing the album version. First time catching your channel -- will definitely check out more.
this is a killer tune, always loved it. the video is also incredible....the dancing girls you'll never forget! One of my favorite songs of all time, and I am a major music lover.
Just interesting information: George Kooymans [Kooymans and Barry Hay are the 2, main, "components" of Golden Earring. - Both do vocals on this song.], the song-writer, was inspired to write this song by a novel, which had recently been published, written by Robert Ludlum. It was entitled: The Bourne Identity (who knew that decades later, what became a series of novels would become a mega-hit, again, as a serialized film collection, in movie theatres! 😜?). The Bourne books (I think, at this point, just the 1st one) and, of course, a tribute to the, legendary, Twilight Zone tv series (which every kid from the 1950s on, basically, grew-up watching or discovered, at some point (and was fascinated by!)!), included in the song (and the video), as well. - Bourne, after all, was something, quite, "Twilight Zone-y," after all, as well. 👍👍 Just something "f.y.i." (for interested parties).
P.S. (For those not aware: The band [Golden Earring] are (were) Dutch - from The Netherlands,] [Birthplace of Edward and Alex Van Halen and their family. Adrian Vandenberg (stylized spelling) ...and a bunch of other great bands an musicians, as well. 🤘🤘👍👊⚡⚡⚡]
The music video scared the hell out of me when I was 12. I thought it was a window into the kind of adventures adulthood would bring (spoiler alert: it wasn’t)
The longer version was usually the album version. It gets edited for the single, for the radio. The video for this is basically the single version but with a gangster type thing going on.
The 3 minute versions were designed for AM Radio Format, low fidelity, a small mono speaker, fast talking DJ's with lots of advertising. It was programmed for people at work to keep them at a steady pace. It was also intended to sell the single song 45 rpm records to youth at a dollar apiece.Extended versions were the High Fidelity 33 1/3 rpm Album Cuts, designed for FM radio. It was around 1969 that Rock and Roll found FM. AM high wattage stations like 77 WABC out of NYC , WLS in Chicago, could reach over 1000 miles with their powerful transmitters. FM stations only cover a single city and surrounding towns but they do it with High Fidelity Stereo. Only Colleges and Public Broadcasting used FM band. Mostly Classical Music, you would hear it Doctor's Offices, Stores, etc. Often, it would only be strong enough to reach the college campus and town it was located in. As youth started buying Albums instead of 45 singles, FM became popular because kids were also buying better stereo equipment to hear their favorite bands.
for my personal playlist, love the long version. But if I am playing a party and only have an hour or so of tunes, its nice to have the short version too.
In the 60s and 70s, short versions were designed for radio play. Longer versions were intended, in part, to fill albums, which were up to 22 minutes per side.
Radio stations back in the day had a basic '3 minute' limit on songs, so there were 'radio edit' versions and then if the artist either had more to say/do, or thought it would make a good dance track, they'd do a long-form mix (extended edit). I wanna say it started in the mid-late 70s in America (around the disco scene) but I feel like it sort of came with electronica/europop via Germany and the UK. It wasn't really common til like 84 or 85 though--Depeche Mode was doing EPs with long versions around that time. There's a line in a Billy Joel song ("The Entertainer") that says something about writing a beautiful song that took him years, but "if you wanna have a hit, you've got to make it fit, so they cut it down to 3:05." Hey Jude was around 7:00 long in 1967, and that was kind of a big deal. Then we got "Inna Gadda Davida," and there was the long-form "Who Are You?" (tho even that had a short/censored version) but for the most part, the 3-mins-and-change rule was standard until (I wanna say) the 90s(?). But this song is best in its long-form for sure. Tho the radio edit was used for the music video on MTV, and it was pretty darkly awesome... scared the sh*t out of me when I was a kid, with this bullet being shot from a gun and cutting playing cards in half as it flew across screen. Classic stuff--another great reaction, man. :)
In the 1970s it was often the case that they had songs with two lengths but on was not extended, it was that one was shortened. They called it the radio edit and it was typically done by the record label, not the artist. By the 1980s acts went back to writing songs specifically for the radio, as they did in the 1960s, then hired producers to extend the songs if it was popular, thus increasing record sales. I suppose they stopped extending songs now that there are few record/CD sales and hiring a production team to extend a song would not gain much.
This is a listener's impression regarding extended versions vs. single and album cuts. I've never been involved in radio broadcasting, so take this with a grain of salt. As recently as the early '70s, AM radio tended to play records under 4 minutes in length. So, for instance, Yes' Roundabout had a single edit for AM radio air play. FM rock radio was pretty much in its infancy, so they could get away with delving in to album cuts instead of singles. Then, disco hit, and even longer tracks that emphasized the dance beat became popular for playing in the clubs. The 12" single extended versions were popular for dancing. For an example, do a comparison of Peter Schilling's Major Tom (although I don't speak German, I adore the German versions of Major Tom and Nena's 99 Luftballoons, known in English as 99 Red Balloons), which is available as a radio edit, album version, and 12" single extended version, I believe. As FM radio took over the market, I believe album cuts getting radio play became the norm, unless there were censorship issues due to language, et. al. But, even then, some got through to airplay. So, radio edit singles tended to happen less often, but the 12" extended singles remained popular to emphasize the dance beats in the clubs. I think as dance music came in to its own as a genre is when the extended versions started to fade away. Again, this is my point of view as a listener who lived through it; I may be completely mistaken from a musicians and record business stand point.
@@AJRabies :nod: Chod has already experienced radio edit vs. album cut, reacting to "Soon" by Yes, before doing The Gates of Delirium. Granted, "Soon" is beautiful in and of itself, but experiencing it for the first time at the end of Gates can be transformative.
Usually, the regular audio track was to suit radio timing. The extended version was usually a Live track, and released as a separate album. Dire Straits “Sultans of Swing” original and the Alchemy version, well worth checking out by the way.
Extended version is the original in most cases. Shortened versions were for radio play. Yo just said while I was writing, "We're having a Party". Play that song from Southside Johnny and the Asbury Junks! You'll love it Chod, thanks
When searching for a song, put in Extended/Remastered after the artist and title. This will give you the extended version and, if there is not an extended version, it will give you a remastered version.
As many have already said, the album version was the "extended" version. The "radio edit" is the 3.5 minute or under version because that was pretty much the longest a song could be for it to be radio "friendly." Yes, people had short attention spans even back in the day. It has just gotten a lot worse.
I imagine it stopped with the advent of MTV, and there is also the fact that starting around that time, peoples attention spans seems to have dropped off suddenly
An atmosphere of worry and fear is very much tied to the times. A perfect example is "What about Me' by Quicksilver Messenger Service. To me it encapsulates the fears of the late 60's and early 70's. After Vietnam was over, music in the mid 70's changed drastically - much less social commentary and more fun (perhaps relief for a few years that the war was over). Change came again when punk and new wave came in (to me there was sort of an overarching apocalyptical/end of the world feel amid all the fun). Have you ever noticed that the feel of the music seems to run in 10 year cycles, starting around the middle of each decade, with the undercurrent of change always being there?
Aside from extended versions being the main format for discos and nightclubs (because people didn't want to dance to a song that ended in 3 minutes), extended versions became a verhicle for artists "TRUE" intentions of the song. Back in the 80s there were dedicated stations to 12" inch formats, and you got to hear some of the most amazing music. The industry got too greedy and wanted to shove more and more crap down people's throats so they cut out the long play format.
Absolutely. A, nearly, 8 minute single was NOT "commercially viable" ...so, there was a single edit made (which, still, runs about 5 minutes)! For me, the album version is bloated with unnecessary repetition and fails in comparison to the much "sleeker" single version (if you will). (I believe there was an even shorter 3.something minute edit made, later, as well; which was lackluster and dropped-the-ball, too. ...But I'm forgetting, exactly.) The, sort-of, odd thing is that: Golden Earring's only previous U.S. hit (and international hot) "Radar Love" was, also, a 6-and-a-half (just under) minute single! ...it's, almost, like; "...WELL, What did you EXPECT??? THIS worked, well, LAST time!!!!...." 😂🤣😜
You should have done the regular version. I kid! I kid! I don't care or want to know the reason for the end of extended version. In my heart. I believe the artists were just in the zone. Realized it was past radio airplay time. So they just called it extended version.
Top 40 stations, TV shows and music videos , I beleive, only have a certain amount of time they give to a song. The main goal is to sell albums. 45' usually had the radio version. Usually there were radio shows at night or the weekend, where DJs would play the long version. Granted I am sometimes thankful for short version when listening to the radio. Sometimes there are songs that I don't like. and there are some long versions that I have to be in the mood for. Right now I'm thinking of S.O.S. Band's "Take Your Time (Do it Right)" or Billy Idol's "Dancing With Myself" . A songs I like to dance to.
I was just on Amazon Prime and discovered that the USA and Import Moontan albums are completely different. So one would have to purchase both versions.
I’m sure bad things happened back then too(70s and 80s), oh u mean like the Ramones and a bunch of punks showing up at the wrong party and starting a small riot LOL!!!!!
Why did they stop doing extended versions? My 2 cents on this is: 1. Corporate Radio - The extended version is the actual song. The shorter one is known as the 'radio edit.' Rush was a band impacted by this. There wasn't a legitimate way to cut their songs down to 'radio edits,' so they made some songs (that are still awesome), but that could get onto the radio. Early on songs were shorter, usually less than 3 minutes. They then moved to the 4 - 5 minute and the 15+ minute depending on the band for a long time. It seems corporate is trying to push the songs back down towards the 3 minute range. Makes sense from corporate radio's point of view. Long songs make for less time for programs to pull in listeners with their shtick and more importantly less time for advertising. If they played an add on the radio after every song people would notice the constant interruptions. 2. Albums vs. Singles - Buyers not buying the whole album and listening to it. Concept albums, songs that flow into the next song, all of it was forgotten. Buyers went to single purchases and many of these long songs were left in the dust. I think corporate radio can congratulate themselves for shortening the attention span for music. Nowadays people see a 7 or 8 minute song and usually move on without listening. The advertising and suggestions on streaming services for listening/purchasing do not tend to put the longer songs up for suggestion and I have noticed that many of them stay in this little bubble of songs and artists. Often pulling from the #1's or Billboard songs. Many bands and songs that should've gotten onto the charts never actually made it, there was so much competition in the 60's - 90's for bands, just too many good bands and songs.
🤔 Yes music is a mood setter and you'd see on the news all the time how there's always riots at rap concerts but you'd be hard pressed to find riots at Rock concert or parties! Word Up!! ☮️
Shorter versions are generally considered radio friendly. Extended versions are more of an album thing. Why they got away from this I couldn’t say. I’d guess that there is less emphasis on radio and more on streaming, but that’s just a guess.
Extended versions were never a special version of the songs. The longer version of songs were always the original album version. Instead of extended version, they were referred to as the album version versus the radio or video version that were shortened for marketing purposes and increased the chance of being played more often on radio stations and mtv..
Oh....PLEASE do not say that back in the sixties and seventies “we had no worries”!!! I dont know as you meant it the way it sounded but hey......Vietnam, Anti-War protests, Civil Rights marches, cities in flames, riots....We had plenty on our minds as we enjoyed all that great music!
Album track versions,usually longer,weren't played on commercial radio,hence the term 'radio edit' I never bought singles,they were like an hors doeuvres before the main meal (the album) This is why,at 67yrs old,i have over 4,000 vinyl,and at least that many cd's. The trouble and strife (wife) is losing patience! Two Dutch bands,Golden Earring and Focus were top quality bands,and like all bands in the 70's,were better live,honed from years of being on the road as nobodies. Even the beatles played pubs early on,but these days,get some tech on your mic,flash those boobs and hey presto....FAME. Here today,gone later today. I Thank God i had my time in the 60's and 70's. Longest party in history.
Wilburn Reactions, Thank You,For Featuring,Golden Earrings, Extended Version,Of ("Twilight Zone,".) My Personal Opinion, About Artists, Should ,Do Extended Versions,They Really Should,Consider It. I Do,Prefer & Like ,("Extended Versions,".) To Be Open ,& Honest. Really Throughly Enjoyed Your,Vlog,Of Golden Earring And Their Extended Versions,Of Their Song,("Twilight Zone,".) Thanks Again, So Much. Take Care,God Bless.
Could you please react to Robert Plant, Jimmy Page ft. Najima Ahktar. Battle of evermore. Video is awesome and shows unique instruments. I think you will really like it.💖
Not so much an "extended " version. It was album vs single. Single's were played on shit pop stations. While true fm stations played the album version. For your sense of history check out WMMS Cleveland ohio. History. Not today but mid 70's - mid 80's.
Or even more so, Check out KSHE95 in St. Louis, MO who have been playing album rock since 1967, making them the oldest station in the genre. In the 1970's they were arguably the most important hard rock station in America, capable of taking a band out of obscurity and launching them into stardom.
![Golden Earring - Twilight Zone (Live, 1985) [REACTION VIDEO] | Rebeka Luize Budlevska](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2zHh5b31n_Q/mqdefault.jpg)
![Golden Earring - Twilight Zone (Live, 1985) [REACTION VIDEO] | Rebeka Luize Budlevska](/img/tr.png)
One of the greatest songs of all time without a doubt!!!
To clear things up: for the most part, the extended version is simply the album version. However, the record companies would cut the songs down for radio, and that's how we get the shorter versions. They even did it to (of all songs) Roundabout by Yes! Gasp! That's why album oriented rock stations were so popular, back then. We got to hear the full songs, not the radio-friendly versions.
They also cut down "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who.
Yes! And on AOR stations, we also got to hear whole albums once in a while, and definitely deep cuts and long songs! (That's when the DJ's would go have a "smoke"!)
"album-oriented radio stations" ruled back in the day. CHUM FM in the Toronto area is notable... as a kid it made a big difference being able to hear a whole side of Pink Floyd or whatever lying in bed at night.
yes, radio stations would cut long songs down to 3-5 min for ease of programming and selling commercials.
Golden Earring
Twilight Zone
1982
That was a great hit
My dad listen to that song back in '82 when it came out when the station played that hit everyone have their radios turned up listen to the rhythm of the guitar played and that was the best song of the early 80's.
That is my favorite Golden Earring
Song.
Chod, here's a brief history you might like to know:
Did you know: on May 11, 1984 Golden Earring
Was ready to play at the six flags adventure theme park in New Jersey
When a Fire break out at the haunted castle 30 people were inside the haunted castle When a Fire break out at the strobe room flames roaring down the strobe room covering the emergency exits of black smoke the whole building covered up in smoke it took the lives of 8 teenagers: Joseph Beyroutey
17, Nicola Calazza 18, Jose Carrion Jr 17, Tina Genovese 15, Christopher
Harrison 17, Eric Rodriguez 18, Lenny Ruiz, 17, & Samuel Valentin Jr 17 Eight teenagers died in the corridor they were 40 yards from the exit when the fire surrounded the building and the building burned to the ground it was the worst fire in six flags adventure theme park in history it's been 37 years since the haunted castle fire Disaster, when you headed to a haunted theme attraction ready to get your scare on
It's always to have fun with the family and it was a great time to get scared at the haunted attraction
The 1984 Haunted Castle Fire
Will remember of the eight victims
Had died in the fire, thanks to new laws of safety and a new warning for the fire safety officials of letting things slip through the cracks.
Back in those days everyone went to parties after the bar closed.....also everyone had a rec room in the basement of their home with couches, dance floor, bars, and record players, stereo systems and some had the blue lights or red lights.....Fun times!
It truly was "That 70s Show"!!
Back in the day, songs were released as singles, on a 45 rpm record. Those songs got played on what I always called "short attention span" radio. The longer versions were on the full 33 rpm albums. At some point, they stopped releasing songs as singles, which is just fine.
Exactly. You needed to find some good album oriented FM radio stations that respected the full songs. Fortunately this was a viable option when I was growing up in the greater Kansas City area in the ancient, musically halcyon days of late '60s and most of the '70s.
🎯
@@stephensmith3111 Yes, what you said!
Short versions are intended for radio play on heavily commercial radio stations. Station managers control the play lists and they schedule a number of songs set to play and play it quickly so their is enough room for commercials to play out. Having to said that, the extended songs are used for when the other songs have been already been played, the play list has a gap. There can’t be ever dead air on a show. So longer songs fit in. Secondly it gives the Radio DJ time to go to take a bathroom break
My favorite Golden Earring song. I love it. Thanks for reacting to it.
When the lady smiles another 👌🏻 one by Golden Earring amongst many others
One of the absolute best tunes ever! Thanks man! And 100% for sure, it wasn't the artists that made the choice...it was the record companies and the radio stations... Nothing more than 3 minutes somehow became "the norm"............
RADIO EDIT is the reason. Long songs take away from the advertising it’s that simple.
BINGO!
Correct
Hey Jude was the exception clocking in at nearly 8:00 because it was The Beatles. But, 2 years later Grand Funk Railroad did it with I’m Your Captain(Closer To Home) but to this day you will hear Hey Jude on radio but GFR not so much.
A serious old favorite. I'm ready to get back to house cleaning now. lol
Best song by the band. I prefer it over Radar Love, hands down.
No doubt I also love this one way better than radar love.
I agree, if, this was played on the radio as many times as radar love, we'd would forget Radar Love.
They didn't do an extended version, the record company did a " Radio cut" or this song MTv video version. 3 minutes about was standard . Way back it was AM radio. Two famous examples , Marty Robbins" El Paso" and the Doors " Light My Fire" . Marty cut out 10 seconds to 4:21 (1959) huge hit great story song. Light my Fire was 7 minutes they made a short version for radio #1 hit. Money talks
Original name of the song was When the Bullet Hits the Bone... Their record producers suggested they change the songs name due to the violent connotation of " when the bullet hits the bone" And so we got this Gem TWILIGHT ZONE..One Bad Azzz song by an Outstanding Band!!!
Oh, I do love this song. Looking forward to what you think.
Love this song - thank you for this reaction!!
Another song from the MTV era of the 80s to mid 90s that I just can't hear without thinking of the video. Back then there were so many hits with an accompanying video that it seems you are missing something without it. It's like listening to just the soundtrack of a movie instead of watching the movie.
I love it, that side-to-side head move you were doing following the bass riff on the extended middle is exactly the side-to-side head movement the bass player used in his live performances to keep the riff going.
Music should touch your soul. Bring back beautiful memories. It should be fun, make you smile, make you cry, make you want to dance or fall in Love. Music of today is none of that. I miss the old days! Wish people of today would bring it back. Loved your reaction and description of yesterdays music. ❤
Extended version of the song is the original version paid I'm pretty sure cuz I was there for a lot of MTV video world premieres and I remember this was one of them. of them
Actually they made normal versions and THEN shortened versions for radio play. If you had a cool local radio station though they played the long version and at least one night a week they played whole albums.
Legendary Dutch band. This was their big MTV hit in the 80s. I've played this song with a couple of different cover bands. Best track of theirs, IMO, When The Lady Smiles. Radar Love is their most prolific hit ( 70s ). Another 45 Miles and Going To The Run are nice tracks of theirs, as well.
That was a blast from the past! I have this on 45, and had never heard the full version. LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
Appreciation to Not pause and pause and talk etc..love it..good job
the extended version is, almost invariably, the original version, or "album version". The AM radio stations of the time didn't want to spend much more than 3 min. of air time on any one song, so the record companies would cut down the "extended version" (the bands INTENDED version), and release it as a single so that the radio stations would give the song air time. More air time generally meant more record sales...........extended version generally means intended version........
I worked in radio back in the 70s/80s and my dad was in radio for over 70 years. There was no "extended" version of any song. The record companies and radio stations required a recording to be between 2:50 and 3:00 for your record to even be considered for air play, so the record companies butchered them. Some radio stations even tweaked the pitch, just for the precious seconds that were to be used for advertising. It was all about the advertising $$$$. Things have changed for the most part... except the greed.
To your question: the extended version was the album version, the short version was cut to fit AM radio format as a “single”. Those were normally cut to fit the 3 minute max rule, although there were some exceptions made.. When FM “Underground” radio came out in the mid sixties, they would play albums, and so the late sixties and seventies became album oriented rock...and you got “concept albums”. Music consumption became album focused and you had “record stores” to fill the need. When streaming started...Napster etc. and people could download single songs., The Whole focus of the music “BUSINESS” moved away from albums...people’s attention spans got shorter....they didn’t want to invest the time to sit down and devote 40 or so minutes at a time to a record the way we all routinely did back then. If people wanted and demanded albums again, the music business would provide them and musicians would again return to that format and you would have longer songs.
The song is based on the Bourne Identity book. Its about the agent's first time killing someone.
For many years, I wanted to listen to one of the great rock stations of all time, WMMS in Cleveland. I lived about 60 miles from Cleveland so it should have been easy to pick up, but a local country station not too far down the dial tended to block it out on radios that did not have great tuners. They would play album versions all the time. Bless you for choosing the album version. First time catching your channel -- will definitely check out more.
this is a killer tune, always loved it. the video is also incredible....the dancing girls you'll never forget! One of my favorite songs of all time, and I am a major music lover.
Just interesting information: George Kooymans [Kooymans and Barry Hay are the 2, main, "components" of Golden Earring. - Both do vocals on this song.], the song-writer, was inspired to write this song by a novel, which had recently been published, written by Robert Ludlum. It was entitled: The Bourne Identity (who knew that decades later, what became a series of novels would become a mega-hit, again, as a serialized film collection, in movie theatres! 😜?).
The Bourne books (I think, at this point, just the 1st one) and, of course, a tribute to the, legendary, Twilight Zone tv series (which every kid from the 1950s on, basically, grew-up watching or discovered, at some point (and was fascinated by!)!), included in the song (and the video), as well. - Bourne, after all, was something, quite, "Twilight Zone-y," after all, as well. 👍👍
Just something "f.y.i." (for interested parties).
P.S. (For those not aware: The band [Golden Earring] are (were) Dutch - from The Netherlands,]
[Birthplace of Edward and Alex Van Halen and their family. Adrian Vandenberg (stylized spelling) ...and a bunch of other great bands an musicians, as well. 🤘🤘👍👊⚡⚡⚡]
Good job listening to the full version, Wilburn! Good for you!
Always great for those road trips. Rollin'!
The original version from the album is 7:58. The short versions are made for radio airplay. But usually if there is a long version it is the original.
Check out “When the lady smiles” by Golden Earring
The music video scared the hell out of me when I was 12. I thought it was a window into the kind of adventures adulthood would bring (spoiler alert: it wasn’t)
It kinda looked like that! 🤣🤣🤣
Those adventures are out there, you just have to look for them...
The longer version was usually the album version. It gets edited for the single, for the radio. The video for this is basically the single version but with a gangster type thing going on.
The 3 minute versions were designed for AM Radio Format, low fidelity, a small mono speaker, fast talking DJ's with lots of advertising. It was programmed for people at work to keep them at a steady pace. It was also intended to sell the single song 45 rpm records to youth at a dollar apiece.Extended versions were the High Fidelity 33 1/3 rpm Album Cuts, designed for FM radio. It was around 1969 that Rock and Roll found FM. AM high wattage stations like 77 WABC out of NYC , WLS in Chicago, could reach over 1000 miles with their powerful transmitters. FM stations only cover a single city and surrounding towns but they do it with High Fidelity Stereo. Only Colleges and Public Broadcasting used FM band. Mostly Classical Music, you would hear it Doctor's Offices, Stores, etc. Often, it would only be strong enough to reach the college campus and town it was located in. As youth started buying Albums instead of 45 singles, FM became popular because kids were also buying better stereo equipment to hear their favorite bands.
Don't you love how groups disappear,
Then return with thier biggest hit..?
for my personal playlist, love the long version. But if I am playing a party and only have an hour or so of tunes, its nice to have the short version too.
This is my favorite song. To listen to over the years.
In the 60s and 70s, short versions were designed for radio play. Longer versions were intended, in part, to fill albums, which were up to 22 minutes per side.
Radio stations back in the day had a basic '3 minute' limit on songs, so there were 'radio edit' versions and then if the artist either had more to say/do, or thought it would make a good dance track, they'd do a long-form mix (extended edit). I wanna say it started in the mid-late 70s in America (around the disco scene) but I feel like it sort of came with electronica/europop via Germany and the UK. It wasn't really common til like 84 or 85 though--Depeche Mode was doing EPs with long versions around that time.
There's a line in a Billy Joel song ("The Entertainer") that says something about writing a beautiful song that took him years, but "if you wanna have a hit, you've got to make it fit, so they cut it down to 3:05."
Hey Jude was around 7:00 long in 1967, and that was kind of a big deal. Then we got "Inna Gadda Davida," and there was the long-form "Who Are You?" (tho even that had a short/censored version) but for the most part, the 3-mins-and-change rule was standard until (I wanna say) the 90s(?).
But this song is best in its long-form for sure. Tho the radio edit was used for the music video on MTV, and it was pretty darkly awesome... scared the sh*t out of me when I was a kid, with this bullet being shot from a gun and cutting playing cards in half as it flew across screen. Classic stuff--another great reaction, man. :)
On this song, the MTV video is worth the watch! You kind of need the whole Golden Earring experience package
Group: Jane's Addiction Song: Jane said
A great Dutch Rockband. Also check out: She flies on strange wings. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱🎸🎶
Awesome music video goes with song...raises its popularity a TON
this has the same vibe as Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider that you reacted to a while back, nice reaction!
In the 1970s it was often the case that they had songs with two lengths but on was not extended, it was that one was shortened. They called it the radio edit and it was typically done by the record label, not the artist. By the 1980s acts went back to writing songs specifically for the radio, as they did in the 1960s, then hired producers to extend the songs if it was popular, thus increasing record sales. I suppose they stopped extending songs now that there are few record/CD sales and hiring a production team to extend a song would not gain much.
This is a listener's impression regarding extended versions vs. single and album cuts. I've never been involved in radio broadcasting, so take this with a grain of salt.
As recently as the early '70s, AM radio tended to play records under 4 minutes in length. So, for instance, Yes' Roundabout had a single edit for AM radio air play. FM rock radio was pretty much in its infancy, so they could get away with delving in to album cuts instead of singles.
Then, disco hit, and even longer tracks that emphasized the dance beat became popular for playing in the clubs. The 12" single extended versions were popular for dancing. For an example, do a comparison of Peter Schilling's Major Tom (although I don't speak German, I adore the German versions of Major Tom and Nena's 99 Luftballoons, known in English as 99 Red Balloons), which is available as a radio edit, album version, and 12" single extended version, I believe.
As FM radio took over the market, I believe album cuts getting radio play became the norm, unless there were censorship issues due to language, et. al. But, even then, some got through to airplay. So, radio edit singles tended to happen less often, but the 12" extended singles remained popular to emphasize the dance beats in the clubs. I think as dance music came in to its own as a genre is when the extended versions started to fade away.
Again, this is my point of view as a listener who lived through it; I may be completely mistaken from a musicians and record business stand point.
Ronnie Van Zandt:Hold my beer!!
In a Gadda Da Vida has a 45rpm single version... taking an 18 min song down to like 3 min.
@@AJRabies
:nod:
Chod has already experienced radio edit vs. album cut, reacting to "Soon" by Yes, before doing The Gates of Delirium. Granted, "Soon" is beautiful in and of itself, but experiencing it for the first time at the end of Gates can be transformative.
Usually, the regular audio track was to suit radio timing.
The extended version was usually a Live track, and released as a separate album.
Dire Straits “Sultans of Swing” original and the Alchemy version, well worth checking out by the way.
Extended version is the original in most cases. Shortened versions were for radio play.
Yo just said while I was writing, "We're having a Party". Play that song from Southside Johnny and the Asbury Junks!
You'll love it Chod, thanks
It's "Southside Johnny and the Asbury JUKES".
When searching for a song, put in Extended/Remastered after the artist and title. This will give you the extended version and, if there is not an extended version, it will give you a remastered version.
As many have already said, the album version was the "extended" version. The "radio edit" is the 3.5 minute or under version because that was pretty much the longest a song could be for it to be radio "friendly." Yes, people had short attention spans even back in the day. It has just gotten a lot worse.
There aren't extended versions today because nobody can stand to listen to the crap they put out today for that long!
true. i want SHORTER songs, especially if they dont have dynamics, key changses, tempo changes, interesting chords
J Jennings is correct. The bands wrote long songs but the radio wouldn't play them so they made shortened versions to get the songs on the air.
I imagine it stopped with the advent of MTV, and there is also the fact that starting around that time, peoples attention spans seems to have dropped off suddenly
An atmosphere of worry and fear is very much tied to the times. A perfect example is "What about Me' by Quicksilver Messenger Service. To me it encapsulates the fears of the late 60's and early 70's. After Vietnam was over, music in the mid 70's changed drastically - much less social commentary and more fun (perhaps relief for a few years that the war was over). Change came again when punk and new wave came in (to me there was sort of an overarching apocalyptical/end of the world feel amid all the fun). Have you ever noticed that the feel of the music seems to run in 10 year cycles, starting around the middle of each decade, with the undercurrent of change always being there?
Very good sounds good
I Love This Song 💯
Actually I think the extended versions where the original song and the shorter versions were the radio edit for time
Aside from extended versions being the main format for discos and nightclubs (because people didn't want to dance to a song that ended in 3 minutes), extended versions became a verhicle for artists "TRUE" intentions of the song. Back in the 80s there were dedicated stations to 12" inch formats, and you got to hear some of the most amazing music. The industry got too greedy and wanted to shove more and more crap down people's throats so they cut out the long play format.
Inspired by the Robert Ludlum book The Bourne Identity
I think the extended version is the original. Cut and the record CEOs make them cut it down for radio play?! Just my guess.
Absolutely.
A, nearly, 8 minute single was NOT "commercially viable" ...so, there was a single edit made (which, still, runs about 5 minutes)!
For me, the album version is bloated with unnecessary repetition and fails in comparison to the much "sleeker" single version (if you will).
(I believe there was an even shorter 3.something minute edit made, later, as well; which was lackluster and dropped-the-ball, too. ...But I'm forgetting, exactly.)
The, sort-of, odd thing is that: Golden Earring's only previous U.S. hit (and international hot) "Radar Love" was, also, a 6-and-a-half (just under) minute single! ...it's, almost, like; "...WELL, What did you EXPECT??? THIS worked, well, LAST time!!!!...." 😂🤣😜
SEARCH THRU ANYTHING JEFF BECK, ERIC CLAPTON OR JIMMY PAGE .. ALL 3 LEAD GUITAR FOR 'YARDBIRDS'
Extended version=album cut.....Short version=radio cut
Todd, Find the video to this song. It's a trip to watch. Just crazy good. 8-30-2021
Check out the band
" Diamond Head - Call Me " and
Golden Earring - When the Lady Calls.....two of my Fav's around the same time
You should have done the regular version.
I kid! I kid!
I don't care or want to know the reason for the end of extended version. In my heart. I believe the artists were just in the zone. Realized it was past radio airplay time. So they just called it extended version.
Mostly because radio play times as well as MTV play times! For commercials!!!
Top 40 stations, TV shows and music videos , I beleive, only have a certain amount of time they give to a song. The main goal is to sell albums. 45' usually had the radio version. Usually there were radio shows at night or the weekend, where DJs would play the long version. Granted I am sometimes thankful for short version when listening to the radio. Sometimes there are songs that I don't like. and there are some long versions that I have to be in the mood for. Right now I'm thinking of S.O.S. Band's "Take Your Time (Do it Right)" or Billy Idol's "Dancing With Myself" . A songs I like to dance to.
Radio stations wanted to play the more direct shorter versions of songs
New Artist Request: The Tubes, White punks on dope.
I was just on Amazon Prime and discovered that the USA and Import Moontan albums are completely different. So one would have to purchase both versions.
The short version was for radio release extended versions didn't get the airplay it comes down to money
Extended don't get played on radio, typically.
Some of those were because the difference is radio play an album versions
I’m sure bad things happened back then too(70s and 80s), oh u mean like the Ramones and a bunch of punks showing up at the wrong party and starting a small riot LOL!!!!!
Why did they stop doing extended versions? My 2 cents on this is:
1. Corporate Radio - The extended version is the actual song. The shorter one is known as the 'radio edit.' Rush was a band impacted by this. There wasn't a legitimate way to cut their songs down to 'radio edits,' so they made some songs (that are still awesome), but that could get onto the radio. Early on songs were shorter, usually less than 3 minutes. They then moved to the 4 - 5 minute and the 15+ minute depending on the band for a long time. It seems corporate is trying to push the songs back down towards the 3 minute range. Makes sense from corporate radio's point of view. Long songs make for less time for programs to pull in listeners with their shtick and more importantly less time for advertising. If they played an add on the radio after every song people would notice the constant interruptions.
2. Albums vs. Singles - Buyers not buying the whole album and listening to it. Concept albums, songs that flow into the next song, all of it was forgotten. Buyers went to single purchases and many of these long songs were left in the dust. I think corporate radio can congratulate themselves for shortening the attention span for music. Nowadays people see a 7 or 8 minute song and usually move on without listening. The advertising and suggestions on streaming services for listening/purchasing do not tend to put the longer songs up for suggestion and I have noticed that many of them stay in this little bubble of songs and artists. Often pulling from the #1's or Billboard songs. Many bands and songs that should've gotten onto the charts never actually made it, there was so much competition in the 60's - 90's for bands, just too many good bands and songs.
Wonder if the drummers leg got sore doing a disco beat?
🤔 Yes music is a mood setter and you'd see on the news all the time how there's always riots at rap concerts but you'd be hard pressed to find riots at Rock concert or parties! Word Up!! ☮️
Shorter versions are generally considered radio friendly. Extended versions are more of an album thing. Why they got away from this I couldn’t say. I’d guess that there is less emphasis on radio and more on streaming, but that’s just a guess.
Extended versions were never a special version of the songs. The longer version of songs were always the original album version. Instead of extended version, they were referred to as the album version versus the radio or video version that were shortened for marketing purposes and increased the chance of being played more often on radio stations and mtv..
You need to listen to this song The Twilight Zone and watch the video that goes with us at the time it's really cool and it makes sense
THE THE... dogs of lust
Talking Heads meets The Rolling Stones IMHO
Oh....PLEASE do not say that back in the sixties and seventies “we had no worries”!!! I dont know as you meant it the way it sounded but hey......Vietnam, Anti-War protests, Civil Rights marches, cities in flames, riots....We had plenty on our minds as we enjoyed all that great music!
Album track versions,usually longer,weren't played on commercial radio,hence the term 'radio edit'
I never bought singles,they were like an hors doeuvres before the main meal (the album)
This is why,at 67yrs old,i have over 4,000 vinyl,and at least that many cd's.
The trouble and strife (wife) is losing patience!
Two Dutch bands,Golden Earring and Focus were top quality bands,and like all bands in the 70's,were better live,honed from years of being on the road as nobodies.
Even the beatles played pubs early on,but these days,get some tech on your mic,flash those boobs and hey presto....FAME.
Here today,gone later today.
I Thank God i had my time in the 60's and 70's.
Longest party in history.
Robin Trower, , Triumph- Lay it on the line
Radio edits. I don’t think they have to worry about keeping songs a certain length for radio now.
I can't listen to this song in my car unless I set the cruise control. Otherwise I'll get put in jail.
Wilburn Reactions, Thank You,For Featuring,Golden Earrings, Extended
Version,Of ("Twilight Zone,".)
My Personal Opinion, About Artists,
Should ,Do Extended Versions,They Really Should,Consider It.
I Do,Prefer & Like ,("Extended Versions,".)
To Be Open ,& Honest.
Really Throughly Enjoyed Your,Vlog,Of Golden Earring And Their Extended Versions,Of Their Song,("Twilight Zone,".)
Thanks Again, So Much.
Take Care,God Bless.
When you going to check out "Twilight Zone" from RUSH?
If you like this one then give "Life Takes A Life" Jon Butcher Axis
👍👍
Try" cat scratch fever" Ted Nuggent his best song by far
Could you please react to Robert Plant, Jimmy Page ft. Najima Ahktar. Battle of evermore. Video is awesome and shows unique instruments. I think you will really like it.💖
Radio wouldn't play but so many minutes
Vanilla Queen live. G.E.
Not so much an "extended " version. It was album vs single. Single's were played on shit pop stations. While true fm stations played the album version. For your sense of history check out WMMS Cleveland ohio. History. Not today but mid 70's - mid 80's.
Or even more so, Check out KSHE95 in St. Louis, MO who have been playing album rock since 1967, making them the oldest station in the genre. In the 1970's they were arguably the most important hard rock station in America, capable of taking a band out of obscurity and launching them into stardom.
The short version or video version of this great song would not have made this song justice.