Star Citizen’s Best Starter Ships & How To Use Them | Launch Sequence Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- A new concept ship has been introduced to Star Citizen, but with no release There are tons of ships to try in Star Citizen, but a select group are catered towards first-time players. Despite this, these “starter” ships have a lot of benefits to them in the long run. In today’s episode of the Launch Sequence Podcast, I’m joined by Dedleader to discuss what makes a starter ship, and how you can make the most of them as well.
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ToC:
00:00 Introductions
01:00 Right Into it, Is The Carrack Ded?
08:00 CIG Communication & Promises
18:00 What Are Starter Ships?
26:30 Best Game Packages
31:45 What Makes a Good “Starter”?
37:30 Should Starter Ships Be Longtime Ships?
55:00 More Ship Options?
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Thanks for having me on! Always a pleasure!
Awesome use of "AI", made me laugh very hard :D
YOU KILLED THE CARRACK! With your nefarious goodbye video!!! All was fine on those Anvil corridors until I saw your blasphemous video you call content... Fortunately, I go through the stages of grief quite quickly, so it's ok. Have a nice day!
The Aurora fan is the individual who upgraded their MR to a LN and uses it as their daily driver until theve earned their C1 or Cutlass Black in game, then by the time they've earned a Carrack, they use it as a snub in the top bay because it holds 4 missiles, 4 size 2 gimbled guns, carries 3 SCU of cargo/goods, and has a bed. Also, there has been speculation (copium dreams) that its cockpit will go strutless and its wings will eventually fold out, so that it is like a tiny Scorpius due to their extraordinarilly similar architecture and the need for additional atmospheric flight-surface ballancing and all the aesthetic changes to the RSI lineup.
i really like your idea for a temp work agency. it could have reputation with that agency, and provide better wages and bonus for happy emplooyers. yes a good thing to visit major towns. on the other hand, they might be waiting for more concurrent players for stuff like Looking For Group features.
@@ParagonFangXen the aurora definitely needs some change to the rear because that back end is weirdly big to just fit an engine, quantum, and fuel. I feel like it could be shorter or certainly unfold in some way.
I hope they do detach ships from game packs one day. Love the idea of people having the option of joining with just their space suit and seeing what can happen!
Have other ships But I love the Avenger Titan as a starter. Don't think telling new players its bad because of what it looks like is a good call. Single seat, good fire power, good starting cargo, and you can fully load the cargo bay and still access the cockpit. The biggest problem with the Titan is that it needs its gold pass badly.
The Avenger is a NASA space shuttle with bad posture. Pure trash 😉
I think it looks awesome.
I made sure to say it was all purely my opinion based on superficial reasons. If people see it as the ship to tell their tale in there's nothing wrong with that!
me too
Carrack will be alive again for me at each of these steps if/when they happen;
1) You could actually open its containers
2) its modularity comes online
3) the arrow can land with gear down AND wings down
4) drones come online
5) gear and equipment becomes insurable when placed in ships again
Sincearly, Galaxy owner (Carrack loaner) o7
The containers HAS to open.
Lol, all I saw was
1. Exploration gameplay
@@ufeelinselfrighteous8470 oddly enough, i dont need exploration gameplay for the Carrack, its not where its real strength is for me. I will almost always be using another ship for Exploration gameplay. Either a Polaris for long range exploration, or a much much smaller ship like a Terrapin or Zeus ES to map jump points. Or one day, an Endeavour for the real Exploration.
As a Galaxy owner as well, amen
I like the idea of a job board, many old old games had this, community driven or put in by the devs. CIG should probably already have it on their road map, and not just leave it to the players.
This is something that star wars galaxies did well. Ship ownership was a later patch and, for the most part you got around by chartering passage on an npc shuttle. That ship would teleport you to where you needed to go. When you got your first ship it was a starter depending on your faction. You would have to level up your ship xp to qualify to use better chassis's and better components. Ultimately you would ask to get on someone's tricked out multicrew ship to get that xp quickly.
Because everything on that game was player run, you would need players to be crafting ships, have to be the right level etc... essentially you stuck with your first ship for a while and when you got to the end ships you were set.
Star citizen, coming from wing commander where all there is is a ship you fly kinda has the opposite approach. There's no real reason to fly just one ship and stick with it...
For a while around last year's iae, when all we were getting were new starters, it became silly to keep any of them because - if you already have the next ship up, this one is obsolete.
I ended up keeping the cutter scout, and I think this is what the video was trying to say... At $50 I can get the smallest entry into scanning. It has a scan station and does x number of things. If I want to specialize in that task I can work toward a terrapin... These starters could be an entry into a role or task that will serve you well and earn you small level contracts. If you have a herald you can do data running to a limit of 50 scu of information. If you want more you'll need an msr, but you can still do all the data jobs with the base ship.
Right now, a ship like the sulyen - which is marketed as a delivery and entry into cargo are completely overshadowed when you can get a C1 with 10 times the capacity for an extra $20. The ralien has 300scu... For me $90 is a lot for a fancy Amazon delivery truck - even with the alien tax.
SWG is the train I live space games. And until I caught wind of SC back in 2015 there was a void that couldn't be filled. SC is definitely a great step up from SWG.
I hope that during it's Gold Pass, the Titan gets some real love. It's a great ship, but is a touch dated now.
'i think im known for going back and finding the little things they said'
Bro, would ypu please do a video on the MSR. So many people have utterly forgotten the OG pitch, even CIG. Sarah McCulloch did a great video talking avout the design, and explaining why there is only one entrance. I feel like no one remembers that at all.
They fixed the MSR. They dropped the Star Runner part and just call it Mercury now. Problem solved.
Sarah McCulloch likes her tunnels.
People are complaining about the MSR because it's missing lots of stuff to at least be competitive in features, Hp, speed etc. Nobody would care about the tunnels if the rest was good.
A retorspective on it may be in order.
I love my Syulen. Not because it is great, in fact in 3.23 it is worse since the large profile and low HP pool get it killed instantly. However, the living space, elevator, engineering area, all just make the ship fun to "live out of".
Fly the ship you love and enjoy not the one that is the best. I own a F7A MKII not because it is the best, but because it's been a favorite of mine for a long while! When it gets it's bugs fixed I'll still be flying it often based off of looks alone.
This. I love my Cutter Rambler and Syulen. I like the F7A MkII, but I kind of miss the wonder and "I'm a silent assassin" feel of my Hornet Ghost with the F7A MkI turrets. It's almost the same, but there was a different "feel" to it. Fighting NPC's in it made you feel incredible.
The Syulen is very fun. You know what, I'd go against what I said in this podcast about diferent manufacturers reasing ships just because they don't have one competing for more alien starter ships.
@@IrisCorven I agree, the F7A MKII definitely gives such a powerful vibe that winning isn't a feeling of success quite the same.
Anything homey inside makes for a good starter in my opinion! Beds are also really nice to have.
@@DedLeader The Syulen is definitely alone in its class. The Nomad feels a cut above the Syulen and isn't technically "alien" in origin although if feels a bit more alien.
I foresee in the future the Syulen costing a lot more in-game than the other starters just due to alien tax and size. It also has a huge fuel tank which makes it an amazing explorer currently.
For the convo around 38:00 I still have my Aurora as a throw away ship. If I died on planet or I just need to get to a different space station without worry of moving other bigger things.
Yeah, I occasionally have an Aurora show up in my list of ships, if I am just travelling from A-B it is quite a nice commuter ride. It is ugly AF outside, but the cockpit view is actually nice.
I jumped in my Aurora after about a year of not flying it I remembered one of the things I really did enjoy about it was that cockpit was gorgeous everything was in view you had perfect line of sights and since I've been flying in my Aurora a little bit more plus it doesn't hurt that the pulse now fits in it so
Lol Aurora is sad, but also glad it's still around!
I feel like there will always be a need for those starters ships so long as single player is around. We don't know what blades or AIs will look like in the future, but we know that a single piloted ship will be at least basic maintenance. That one person can do so until they come out with a medium sized ship for a single player. A lot of people will use single piloted ships and those happen to be the starter ships
Engineering will make large ship owners cry. Multi crew is not going to be just a suggestion for much longer. AI will look like the bartenders.
IMO i would say the Cutter is the best starter just for the bed and cargo. However, once someone gets going in the game I would recommend upgrading it to the C8R. It's a ship that I still find myself using for quick qt jumps, bunkers, and even if I need some food and water.
Also the C8X is multi crew, it has 3 seats, has cargo and that's definitely a solo starter ship. It can also absolutely be a ship that can always be used ingame and a good investment. It can be used as a shuttle for away missions, when you progress to Large/cap ships W/hangars .
I stared out a few months before my friend did with a cutty as my starter,seeing how much more difficult it is for him to make money because of the lack of a cargo hold. Makes me really appreciate the extra cash I spent when I started out.
I guess if someone throws the question: what ship i should start in? Ask back... What do they want to do? So many ingame professions to mingle with, I found my all rounder daily driver to be the Harbinger for example. It can do combat, it has a bed, a tiny space for the Pulse or just a package or two. Loving the versatility it provides. Which if I would downsize would be the Reliant Tana.
Cutlass Black
The Harbinger is a solid pick, and surprisingly you don't see people fly them all that often!
I would like to see the game package as a token that could be added in check out to any ship you want. If you melt the ship you can still play because you have the token in your hanger.
It would be really cool if you could disable a ship and if you can successfully board the ship and take control of said ship you can take to a pirate shipyard or something that will pay you to drop off the stolen ship. The person or squad in the disabled ship could choose to self destruct the ship so this doesnt happen. The self destruct would need to last maybe 10 to 20 mins so the boarding team has time to get into the ship and disable the self destruct so they can take the ship and make money would be awesome.
I'd love to see hacking and more use of the Tigerclaw put into play to do stuff like cancelling self destruction, disabling respawning in med bays etc
@@DedLeader YES there is a lot they could do with the features they already have in the game. Bring a Tigerclaw with you incase they choose to self-destruct or to stop them spawning if they are in a carrack or Cutty red etc... I like your thinking sir!
I needed a game package recently so i went into buybacks and noticed i had an lti cutter scout with ghoulish green paint game package for 60$. I got it out and wow. The cutter scout looks so good in the ghoulish green paint. I love it. I jave a ton of ships but idk something about it is really cool.
Man, I love the C Rambler, and it’s my way to travel around the verse for anything that don’t need space combat or lots of cargo. With the VK-00 QTD, you can do a full lap of the Stanton system without needing to refuel, and the VTOL is awesome on planets to hoover around the surface and having a great view of the ground.
What is more important another ship or getting to a working game (v1.0) with major technical elements addressed?
You know that ships aren't made by the people who work on the game engine right? and that firing them all won't make the game get finished any faster right? and that in fact it would stop funding and guarantee the game is never finished right?
The easiest way to add "armor" without doing a full Maelstrom system, is instead of the current damage resistance percentage use (or add) a damage reduction factor (to go with your other recent video I play lots of RPGs like BG3). Damage resistance is percent, damage reduction is a flat number. It prevents pea shooters from affecting tough targets, because ALL damage is reduced by the numbers, and that flat reduction means smaller numbers are far less effective.
Examples: you have a gun with 100 alpha attacking a ship with 50% damage resistance. Its damage dealt is reduced to 50. Same with 50 damage reduction. Now, go to a gun with 250 alpha: against the first it deals 125, against the second 200. Finally, take a gun with 30 alpha: against the first ship it deals 15 damage, but against the second it deals 0. Doing the two together you also have to decide which reduces damage first, but that's part of the balancing.
To summarize, damage resistance helps against big guns, damage REDUCTION helps against LITTLE guns. It can limit or stop death by a thousand cuts situations like come up with the current light fighter meta.
Death should have more consequences, but that has to be after they fix the bugs that kill you. I die more and lose more ships to bugs than I do to anything else.
Death already has enough consequences as is. You lose time (much more than in most other games) and gear. The issue now is that gear is way too easy to come by. If we had a more in-depth equipment system where the piece of armor you wear is not easily replaced with another piece that might look different different but has the same stats, losing that armor would actually hurt quite a bit.
@justalex4214 I agree with the equipment piece. When I start running low on equipment, I run a merc mission and get another 11 sets plus weapons. However, I think their concept of regeneration basically becoming less effective is interesting. I just don't want them to implement that when I die by getting ejected from my ship during server migrations or hitting an invisible ship that randomly doesn't load in. It would be way too punishing. Especially if I also have to try to recover hard-to-collect armor pieces
I definitely agree about the bugs. Got killed a few days ago quantum jumping to yela by suffocating in KY own ship that had zero damage. Lost my gear and a ship to a bug.
My MSR is also my hero ship. I just want CIG to make it fun again with the current balancing.
If they fixed it i'd be all over it again. Like I said in this video, great storytelling in it's design.
17:00 the conversation about having teir 3 beds keep injuries makes ABSOLUTE sense , because although it can regenerate you it regenerates you as you were when you died and if you died with a teir 2 injury the tier 3 bed can't heal it and in Lore it can be that the bed regenerates you THEN heals you and the only bed that can heal everything is tier 1 meaning its the best place to respawn without dbuffs
That intro never gets old 😎
Absolutely love it!
I recommend the cutter each and every time.. great little all rounder.
@DedLeader has some great takes on armor and engineering. Game would be great with what you said.
Suggested categories for ships based on pad/hangar size and ability to land in atmosphere;
-SMALL SHIPS-
Snub - XXS pads
Light - XS
Medium - S
Heavy - M
-LARGE SHIPS-
Light Corvette - L
Corvette - XL
Frigate - Docking Collar, can fly/land in atmosphere
Cruiser/Destroyer (depending on militarization for flavor text) - Docking Collar, cannot fly/safely land in atmosphere
-Technically Unclassified-
Dreadnaught - anything so big it cannot dock to stations, or just insanely large like a station in its own right
One of the biggest thing with the medical ‘rework’ is if I remember correctly, CIG making the med bed spawn work with all ships is a temporary thing because the game is buggy and kills you randomly. So they are giving you a workaround
Can't wait for Squadron 41!
Missed this one live, Tomato looking quite awake for a 6AM local tomato time podcast!
I take the point on blue sky development, but CIG pitched this game with certain specifics *and sold ships based on their pitches*. It would be entirely fair to change things if this was a $40 steam game, but selling a $450 Endeavor Hope with explicit gameplay described makes it really hard to walk back to “it was aspirational”. Basically they sold assets for gameplay before they had actually made tested and evolved the gameplay, and that’s on them. They really did over-pitch so man6 ships, with features that might never get here.
Good talk! Thanks both. I wonder if there actually will be a starter ship in the final product,. We get them currently so that we can get in and fly, but who knows maybe you will just be starting with some starting cash and that is it. I actually hope they will do a test like that with the generally alpha population as well in the future to test the viability of it. If that is the case your "starter" will be anything you save up for in-game for your first ship and then there will be people who don't even get a ship, FPS ground pounding only. Those people will be looking for a lift on someone else's ship.
I think Carrack is dead mainly because of cargo change in 3.23.2.
Yeah that's the big one.
Polaris killed it for me
Does Crusader have a starter yet? Or Mirai? Misc has the Reliant i guess...Appoa, Kruger, and Argo could probrably all use actual starter ships too.
9:20 - Fully agree; Including communication between the Devs and Marketing; such as with the NUrsa ad suggesting the removal of "Death of a Spaceman", followed up with the Ship Q+A saying the devs are fully designing for DoaS. So many things would go smoother with communication.
15:13 - Ah, you covered it.
55:23 - Could you post a link? I don't use twitter, and googling your account isn't coming up with a post. Normally it wouldn't matter, but this is kind of an important claim, especially to try to determine if CIG is jumping on the "Anger and confusion are still SEO" negative marketing bandwagon. They seem to be willingly withholding information lately to cause confusion; like a shitty drama movie. Doubly especially, because I'm subscribing to them on the original faith of it funding transparency.
Still use my 315 for everything since repairing sat stations.
Ive gotta say, the cutter is the best ship under $100, hands down. Old players love to recommend the titan but they forget that the cash price has gone up significantly since they bought one in 2018. The shenanigan capabilities of the cutter are unbeatable
A starter ship is a misnomer. Is your FIRST ship that introduces you to the game. It's the ship that gets you in and gives you your first experiences. Your starter ship will determine whether you get hooked on the game; it's your first and possibly last ship purchase. Once you've decided to get into the game your starter is just the ship you started with.
For me good starters are the Cutter, Titan, and Nomad. They will offer a wide range of gameplay and should get you enough of a sample to know if you want to play or not. Once you're in you can upgrade and buy more ships and once you're into the game you're going to have more than one ship and the idea of "starter" becomes moot.
I kind of regret upgrading my mustang to a better ship, because in my opinion the best starter is the cheapest one that will give me limited opportunities to do various activities to experience the full journey from zero to hero.
I'm waiting for a full wipe, then I will exchange my cutter for a Mustang, I will start with limited funds, at the beginning I will struggle to save up for a cutter, which will enable faster and more efficient looting of FPS locations, and the ability to transport a small vehicle. I'll save up for something better, maybe a fighter, or maybe for Cutlass Red for even better FPS experience (and ROC Mining), or even prospector or Vulture. Eventually I'll buy something like Connie or Corsair, and then I'll just start collecting ships, all for ingame money.
Honestly, if it was possible to melt ship without a game package, I would spend all my funds on skins and start the game from scratch without a ship.
Name 1 gameplay loop the Cutter can do that the Avenger Titan cannot. Genuinely curious
toilet, shower, and scanning which dont exist yet
@@RestrictedHades so nothing yet. And maybe nothing that wont exist in its goldpass rework which is as real as those gameplay loops. ;) o7
But actually, thanks, it is small, but genuinely something i had forgotten about that may matter (a little) in the future
The cutter is $15 cheaper and does everything the titan can. Justify the price.
@@wertacus better flight, interceptor tuning for the best class of flight characteristics, more and much bigger weapons, better cockpit view, multple entrances, more cargo space, better armor. And that is all before whatever benefits come from its confirmed rework whenever it gets it as it is one of the oldest unupdated ships right now. The Titan has so many pros it is worth well over that 15 dollar bonus to my mind
@@wertacus if you think the cutter can do everything the Titan can, lets see them in a dogfight and then ive got some HRTs for your Cutter to handle.
Avenger is kinda goated imo.
But the Scorpius is my favorite.
Wow, it just goes on…”I don’t like the Aurora, so I can’t understand why anyone would.”
Is it just me or did Dedleader reference my Eclipse video at 1:04:45? Or is it someone else’s Eclipse tutorial he’s seen?
Outposts will be small and hold like 1 or 2 boxes for sale. Big ships don't care about making those stops so small ships are perfect to do these trade runs. and if they have rare but worthwhile goods. I could also see the drug run be perfect for like a nomad.
I alos think a hull b will be a commonly used ship by the player base. Because it can land on planets it opens up a lot of trade routes.
As far as the issues you had with salvaging I'm betting all you did was scrape it and fracture it and disintegrate it because I've taken some of those same ones and as long as you're going in and getting the components getting the weapons and then scraping and fractured disintegration I've always made more it may not be a huge return but I did make a profit
To me a good starter ship is one that continues to be useful as you grow your fleet. The titan is a well armed fighter with adequate storage, habitat and hull hp, the Pisces is small straight forward and versatile and it can spawn from vehicle bays. You can always find a use for these ships even after buying bigger and better ships. I don't see this being trying for the Mustang and Aurora. They feel like ships you want to try and escape from as soon as possible and are unlikely to see any further use once you upgrade to something better. For that I consider them poor options for starter ships and game packages
Thank you
The irony of making tier 3 medbeds do respawn again is that medbeds, even Tier 1, no longer heal injuries. You literally need to kill yourself to heal a T3 arm injury. Sometimes I swear we go two steps back and zero steps forward. It also feels a lot like dithering. They rework features which aren't important to avoid working on ones that are, like they are afraid to finish. The wall panel on the Carrack wasn't working so you needed to lay in the bed. They fixed that, sort of, and now laying in the bed doesn't work, you need to use the wall panel. They made it possible for someone else to use the panel while you're in the bed so see you injuries but the they don't allow them to perform treatment AND they made it impossible to treat yourself either, taking me back to the original point.
I seems like too option effort and time is expended without any measurable advancement, it's just churn. They circle jerk features that they have already worked on over and over never quite finishing and moving on. I not talking about big things that involve complex system, I mean things like the medbeds and UI. I noticed they changed the UI for treating injuries AGAIN which is probably why it's broken AGAIN. Instead of showing you a list of injuries and checking boxes you now need to click on the injured limbs and treat them one by one. More needless feature churn. Just finish the damn thing CIG.
Death of a Spaceman has a great deal to do with regenerative degeneration. Few people realize that the current regen system is going to change, and regeneration will come with medical risks attached, and will see the introduction of prosthetics and regenerative disorders. Permadeath IS A THING, and will become a thing. The value of the life of your character will depend on how you use that character.
This does not need to be in game just for lore. But a drone is bringing your body to the low tier med beds and healing you so you keep your worse injurys. Where as at the other med beds you are a clone?
I have 11 ships and many more loaners. I would say the cheapest ship during a game package sell. See if you like the game and whether you will be a combat or industrial type player. Then consider doing a ccu upgrade after you know ur direction in the game. Unless you are massicst, I don't think you can realistically grind out in game money to get a $150 to $200 ship. And consider you need to do this twice a year with often they wipe all progress.
I like the Titan. Its my favorite low priced ship.
I kind of hate the Titan, but I still acknowledge the fact it is the best starter. If anyone can splurge and spend a few extra bucks just to get the Titan it will substantially help their early game. Bounties, cargo, bunkers, small ground vehicles, and a bed. Doesn't just get by in a fight either... It punches hard.
RiP my carrack, but HELLO POLARIS 😍 cannot wait
You'll wish you waited 🤣
haven't you heard, every content creator says that you can't fly the Polaris.... you'll need an ENTIRE ORG just to take it out of the hangar... and 100000000 UEC
I don’t know what trailer they’re talking about but if it’s the 3.23 trailer then that doesn’t pertain to death of a spaceman because that’s not in this patch
first time catching the log vid
OMG, yes! I really wish that I could DECLINE all of my loaners. I can't tell my real 325a from the loaner. Until I call them up and see if it has a custom paint. And I never use my F7C-M or Aurora. I just fly out to a remote Lagrange Point station that I never go to, then claim all my loaners there.
Space Tomato, just admit it, you are a Crusader Industries fan. Please note I said fan, NOT fanboy. I get it, I understand it. Even though as a Drake Interstellar guy I should be (but am not) shaking my head.
The state of early game right now makes it that there are no starter ships for a majority of gamers (a starter ship being a hook).
KOTOR - The Ebon Hawk.
A "Starter" Ship is any ship that comes with a game package.
Passanger 57 on a Reclaimer!
The Mustang is better than the Aurora imo which flies like a brick but the Aurora does have a bed which the Alpha does not. Both really need a rework/gold standard pass.
The C8X has no amenities but you can bring a long a couple of friends and even maybe Pulses too.
The Cutter has the best fit/finish with a large cargo/vehicle bay for it's size but you shouldn't fight with it and it's handles like a boat.
The 100i I feel is under appreciated since it handles and accelerates like a dream, it's unfortunate it's over priced.
The Titan I want to like but it has poor handling in atmo (has strange understeer) and the cargo bay while larger doesn't really fit any vehicles because of the opening height.
Syulen has good fit/finish like the Cutter and is better equipped to fight even though it's profile makes it a target. The weird take off/landing orientation is a detriment though.
Arrow is very specialized and you'd really have to know you only wanted to do ship bounties to pick it.
Nomad has poor hydrogen efficiency but is the bast bang for you buck of the "advanced" game packages. It has a weird power issue with stock the power plant iirc though.
Cutlass Black is a good all arounder but has probably the worst fit/finish of the ships with game packages.
Freelancer handles poorly and has the styling of an airstream trailer. It does however have a good number/size of pilot controlled weapons.
Hornet has the same issue as the Arrow with the exception that it has the cargo carrier module.
The Andromeda and EXPLORATION packages aren't worth mentioning because of the associated costs.
Personally I prefer the Mustang of the available options since I'm more familiar with the game now but I did start with a Titan. I feel comfortable recommending either the C8X or the 100i as game packages to new players based on their performance/utility. Then they can CCU to something more specialized or keep them as shuttles since they can spawn at Platinum bays and have low claim times.
I'm with DedLeader on the Aurora loaner, I wish there was a way to prevent it from appearing in the terminal. They need to add a way to customize your terminal entries so you can sort/hide some.
Carrack is Home; Carrack is Life!
I went for the Avenger Titan because it was on sale during the invictus weeek just now.
I would have gone for a worse/cheaper ship because I really enjoy starting with a janky piece of crap in these games but with all the potential wipes and stuff i went for a slightly better starter.
It's a good choice and will serve you well for a long time. You want a starter you don't need to upgrade but instead add more ships to your fleet. For me that's a Cutlass Black but the Titan is also one of those "keepers". The Pieces C8X is another keeper. The Aurora and Mustang are terrible. If the first thing you want to do with your starter is to get something better then you know it's a bad choice.
I usually recommend the cutter but the invictus price for the titan was really good.
I like my nomad
Need a crew? Let people play for free, But buy a "starter ship" package go get a "Pilots License".
I upgraded my starter Nomad to a Carrack so I always start with my floating base. My phoenix emerald is my daily driver though.
Starter ships are easy to define. Starter ships are those ships available for purchase as part of your initial account access. That’s it. That’s a starter ship as any new player will understand the term. Defining it otherwise is not helpful to new players.
I feel like if i bought myself a ship too crazy id ruin the game for myself. Im already worried about my caterpillar i bought ages ago, but i got some head RP justifying me starting with it. But starting with some Idris? For what are you gonna play then?
To buy other money maker ships, to sypporr the aUEC guzzler. Big ships will be big money syncs, not makers.
death of a space man = death of a space game IMHO :(
“Get a Cutter because I don’t like the look of an Avenger Titan” is an odd take.
I have both ships, and I also prefer the Cutter, but suggesting someone else base their decision upon your aesthetic preference is an odd recommendation.
Get a cutter because it's $15 less for the same functionality
in my experience, any new player in the game will constantly die, there are a lot of bugs in the game and death awaits even on the stairs) A new player will constantly die and get back into the ship and fly and die again. From this point of view, the Starter Ships should be fast and easy to control. Cutter and C8X Pisces is a bad choice, they are very slow and flying them will start to tire you out, especially after constant deaths)
The Pieces is very fast and agile especially in atmosphere and a very useful ship for deliveries and getting place to place. The claim timer is very short and it can be spawned at mining outposts if you end up stuck. It's a lot more versatile then you give it credit for.
???... I started with a C8X, after years of not touching the game or my Aurora since the hangar module. The thing was fantastic - quick and nimble, I could do up to MRT's in it, it had good cargo space for a starter, seats to cart friends around, etc. It never failed me, outside of not knowing an NPC Cutlass might show up at certain missions when I was out of the ship, or a bunker turret catching me before I realize it was spawned, in the early days.
Not only that, but I swapped it for a Cutter Rambler because I wanted a "tiny home". It does everything close to the same, and may be less nimble and worthwhile in combat, but it's perfect for getting around, doing non-combat related missions, etc.
On the flipside of things, I absolutely hated the Avenger Titan. Not only for it's boring look, but because I felt no challenge in any regard in doing anything. It does everything so well, it felt like there was no growth or adaptation to push me to increase my skill further. I had to LEARN how to fight back in the C8X and Cutter. In the Avenger, I just killed things.
@@cthree87 the main meaning of my words is that the ship must be fast, which you missed, based on the fact that the new player will die often.
@@IrisCorven the main meaning of my words is that the ship must be fast, which you missed, based on the fact that the new player will die often.
@@vladkudrya9615 Ok? And the C8X is fine for that. Again, never had any issues with the speed on it. The Cutter is a different story, but the C8X holds its own in that regard.
There's at least two different definitions of starter ship in SC. There are the ships you can buy to get into the game. These are your $75 and less starter package ships. I see these as "Entry" level ships and they really need to be adequate at whatever they are doing. Then there are the ships that get you started into a game play loop. Nomad for hauling\trading, Prospector for mining, Vulture for salvaging, etc. etc. These single seat ships are the industry "Starter" ships.
43:51 No. The incentive should be there for players to spend more money on the game. If players don't spend money the game will not survive.
Smaller ships already have the advantage of 1) being able to fit into smaller places, 3) have lower signatures and 3) much easier engineering operations. That's plenty advantage already.
15:41 No. in Sales you cannot show this tripping, reduced stamina, etc negativity. What you want is honesty, which is not part of sales.
The idea of the death system is annoying for me I don’t wanna wake up with some ba star because the game assisted in my death this game is going to lag long after it comes out and allot of people will quit with stuff like this
So be it. Tbh I don't think a studio should change their game design with the expectation that there will be lag. So many games would play entirely differently in that case. If they can't stabilize the game to match their intent, the game deserves to die as people quit, imo.
@@SpaceTomatoToo still a dumb game mechanic
Forcing people to only be able to act as crew to other players will put new players off.
It’s a bit elitist to state the Constellation is a great starter ship. But I appreciate this whale’s honesty
Man... Hate to talk trash here, but Ded doesnt know about the OG 300s?? Maybe bruh needs to spend more time learning about SC than talking about it.
I've only been playing for the past 3 years! Litterally would have no reason to go look at old designs, i'd rather play it now then read lore, but that's just me!
If you are a beginner, plz stay away from this shit if you wanna spare your soul. Wait until you get more then 2 server fps or you ship with all your loot getting destroyed because you store the ship in a station. Buy a package in maybe 3-4 years when server meshing will be there and the game is nearly before beta. Everyone that really thinks, that server meshing will come with 4.0 will be unhappy :)
Dang that’s crazy because besides some bugs I’m genuinely happy playing the game. Got on 2 months ago and it has taken over me playing any other game. Glad I didn’t run into someone like you lol
I get where your going with this, but certainly do not avoid the game for 3-4 years. I've played the server meshing, its works VERY WELL. All the hitching, laggy movement etc is gone. The game is exactly what it should be. You loosing your stuff because you died storing your ship or whatever is a bug of THIS PATCH. It will be fixed. The game will be very good after and during 4.0 or 4.1. Pyro and meshing will change alot.
The best advice for new people is find a group to play with. Theres plenty of vets of the game that have been dealing with the bugs for years and can easily tell you work arounds or give you stuff in the mean time. Group play is good right now, especially anything to do with combat.
@@Blackburn6969 tbh i dont feel like recommending this to anyone without a LTI pack,,,, i might ask my friends when they have another LTI starter pack up
(i like LTI i know)
If you're expecting an instant gratification twitch game, with constant dopamine gratification, then yes stay away. If you're looking for a simulation, play the game.
"More than 2 server fps" except the most common experience you'll have with low server fps is while you're in station. You can certainly launch your ship with 20-30 fps (my pc is kinda budget, rx 6600, 16gb ram, I can play Tarkov at 1080p 100 fps) and that's all you need to reach space and do your game loops at 50-60 fps (I can't vouch for frames against fps ai combat yet). You can generally do 2-4 gameplay loops (full cargo runs, missions, salvages) before the servers crash so if you're doing something high risk, you can wait for the servers to crash, relog, then do your high risk gameloop with more security.
It's definitely playable, and if server meshing is really coming out this year or two, it's only gonna get better.
A C8X is multi crew, it has 3 seats, has cargo and that's definitely a solo starter ship. It can also absolutely be a ship that can always be used ingame and a good investment. A solo ship IMO is any ship you can manage yourself, whether it be using a combination of blades for unmanned turrets or a few NPC crew for different manned positions. Now if you feel confident to leave safe space, that is a choice you have to make, but anything over 4 - 6 crew will be dicey with engineering coming into the game.