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US Military's Biggest Recruiting Crisis Is Here
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Is the US Military getting soft? Is the military giving into the woke culture? How can the US Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps deal with "me me millennials" and "phone zombies of Gen Z"? The US Military has hit a massive road block, but it's #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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Do you agree with US Military's approach?
If yes, why, and if no, what are some alternatives?
Agree - we need solders who can think for themselves. If we want mindless drones, we can just build them now.
Not sure. I agree something needs to change. I'll wait for the results of these changes before I form an opinion on them. I have trust in the armed forces to figure it out though.
Yes. Drones are not needed.
Air Force veteran here. When I went through Basic, it was under a shortened duration program as an experiment to see if it was cost effective in the long run. Drill sergeants were reassigned halfway through the program to incoming flights of recruits. The teambuilding and confidence of the recruits plummeted, and the number of them that re-enlisted or even made it all the way through their initial term fell off a cliff. The shortened basic training program was cancelled, and rightly so.
The baby boomers drafted for the Vietnam war were the original "me-generation" with their hippie mindset and pacifist views.
The harsh treatment they received in training didn’t make them stronger or more loyal. Instead there was drug abuses, fragging of their officers and hatred toward their government after the war.
There’s a Machiavellian dilemma between the carrot and the stick. Use the carrot too much and you have lazy soldiers. Use the stick too much and they have nothing to lose to betray you.
Defending shark attacks are more an appeal to tradition than trying to find what actually makes great soldiers.
If the military wants more people to join, it must be an organization worth joining.
1) Lowing standards to attract people who don't want to join will only discourage those who want to join.
2) Today's generation has more access to information about military life than ever before. They are well aware of the toxic leadership, poor living conditions, and constant complaints about the VA.
toxic leadership, toxic leadership, toxic leadership.
That's all i hear about the military these days.
I never served in any branch, but was a contractor for the DOD for almost 5 years. I saw first hand some GREAT leaders and some TRASH ones.
And it seems like these trash leaders are the ones that keep getting promotions and is one reason why the military can't retain people.
Excellent on both points.
The Army has been mismanaged into the ground. I joined in 2018 and at in-processing recruits literally peed themselves because they didn't give us bathroom breaks, were vomiting water due to having nothing in their stomaches (I personally struggled not to pass out due to starvation every morning), and I knew a recruit who had to stay behind because her knees became infected and she was denied medical care. I have way more horror stories than just these, but jeeze I wish this got out more because apparently it's normal from what I've heard.
The Army absolutely is not worth joining. It's nothing but busy work, and you have very little opportunities to do your chosen job unless you're lucky. I suffered from severe depression due to having no purpose and was treated poorly by toxic leadership. I got nothing out of my military service, and I literally transtioned directly into homelessness. The Army gave me zero job skills despite joining as a 91E. The Army leaves its soldiers behind everyday and it makes me sad when I see people join, knowing that they're ruining their lives. I'm glad it's coming back to bite them now.
@@rikoea6530 I had a vastly different experience in the USAF. I know the Army doesn't always employ the best and brightest, but this is shocking.
Could you please elaborate on your reasoning behind point 1?
"Imagine three drill sargent screaming in your face, one ordering you to get down, the other telling you to get up, while the third one ask you philosophical questions... WHY WHY WHY WHY" This had me dying 😂
Shark attack was hilarious. Drill Sergeants are scary at first but by the end of basic you usually grow to like them, if it's being done right. Hardest part of basic for me was just getting used to living with a bunch of other dudes in close quarters.
tear you down to build you up into conformity easy peasy
Reminds me when my junior college (my country's equivalent of high school) PE teacher once hollered at my class's guys: "Be a girl! Wear a skirt!" (my class's ladies meanwhile had PE lessons under a different teacher at a different location) as he felt my class' guys were running too slow (the faster ones were waiting for the slower ones to catch up)
I felt this before in maritime academy..... So bloody confused and felt so stupid
It was great, I found it entertaining, every drill sergeant walked up to me and told me to move my fat ass, but the one that got me was the one who came up behind me and whispered it in my ear. I busted out laughing.
The low enlistment rate has NOTHING to do with getting chewed out in basic training. People don't want to join because they hear all the bad experiences other people have had with leadership, bureaucracy, and the mountains of random BS you deal with. But not because of Basic. Most people including myself have fond memories of Basic.
Also the conflicts we find ourselves involved in play a big role in people not wanting to join.
Rip Vanessa Gullien. The army branch was done after that story.
Look how the US treat Veterans ,who served sad
Admittedly... I was kind of fond of my time in the military as well. I loved the ceremony and the pagentry, the work was simple (Though mindnumbingly repetitive at times) and even the deployments were doable (Japan was awesome and I always said prior to our withdrawel, that I would go back to Afghanistan in a heartbeat)... but holy shit that bureaucracy. That's definitely the one thing that was shoving me out the doors when my EAOS was approaching. I didnt have the articulation for it at the time, but "Toxic Leadership" is definitely one of the biggest problems in the military.
I spoke to a British Royal Marine officer a while ago and asked him about their training regime vs the US regime. He said the RMs didn't believe "breaking" recruits resulted in the best soldier.
I don't believe there are many that would doubt the calibre of a Royal Marine.
All first world militaries have been infected by the new work agenda, not jus the IS. Of course we are further down the road than the British.
Ask the Vietnam generation about how they trained. Bootcamp use to be hard to pass. If you couldn’t hack it you washed out. In todays military the standards are so watered down IMO, it’s gonna take a serious conflict against China to change the course we are currently on.
They want bots that follow commands not human beings that can think for themselves that’s why they “break” them.
As someone who did my military service in a nation with a draft, we have never had this kind of treatment of our soldiers.
It has never been seen as necessary and we produce world class soldiers in basically every field. You can argue that the US has better, whatever, there are more US soldiers and so on. But our professional, and even at times our drafted youths in for their 12 months military service have historically performed very well when put up against US regulars in NATO exercises.
Not to say that the US can't have the same results, but I am saying that the "shark attack" is in no way needed to produce high quality soldiers.
@@agilagilsen8714 Finland?
@Chris Davis "our combat deployments are longer" ok and? what is your point?
"Draftees are no match for professional soldiers" but they are, I have seen with my own two little eyes of 20 year olds 9 months in wiping professional american soldiers because of their over reliance on air/sensor superiority.
Blindly believing in your own supremacy is a false god and will result in unnecessary deaths if applied to the real world.
We're not in a recruiting crisis because of basic training. We're in a crisis because of lack of purpose, treatment of Soldiers and families, and lack of higher listening to bottom up feed back. Ask any honest specialist and they'll let you know.
after covid removing freedoms, why fight for "freedoms"
Including the worthless wars ptsd and the battle feild itself
join so you can get ptsd and be homeless. and then fight with the Va for Congress to take your benefits...sounds fun
Add the top being full of a big nose phono types and furries
We need to wear dress uniforms more and do volunteer gigs that serve the communities around bases and on weekends for reserve and guard drills
Speaking as a former Sergeant in the Marines, I will tell you the two biggest things affecting recruiting and retention are current events and the treatment of lower enlisted on active duty.
Everyone can see everything going on everywhere, thanks to the internet and social media, and young folks can see the horrible decisions being made at the DC level, sending American arms, money, and troops to fight in wars for countries we have no alliances with, and why should they sign up to die for NOT America OR our Allies?
Second, the treatment of lower enlisted is abhorrent. We are treated as expendable fodder, and spoken to as if we are lower than scum by a lot of senior enlisted and officers. No one enjoys that, and it puts most troops off of re-enlisting. People count the days until their EAS (End of Active Service) because of how they’re treated.
Also, established titles has been outed as a massive scam.
It seems the treatment of lower enlisted is being corrected in the corps. Pay still sucks but most of us wake up happy to go to work
Because people have better options besides joining the military. The military was primarily for a low income group of people, it's always like that. After the Vietnam wars and Hollywood movies, people started looking at the military differently.
the ways to increase enlistment rate is simple : 1. increase salary 2. don't treat enlisted men like a dirt after boot camp and training schools.
Tbh that is what scares me the most about military. The non human treatment to new soldiers
@antho thats never going to change until humans find a more efficient (cheaper) way of breaking someone down to mold them into whatever they want, they have to dehumanize you so they can make you a warrior.
quite frankly it doesnt even really work and warfare isnt even what it used to be so we dont really even need to be hardened murder machines like back when you had to murder your enemies with your bare hands or some 10 pound piece of metal that may or may not have a blade on it.
Older Gen Z guy here, I got out of the ARMY a year and a half ago because the least toxic leadership I had was back in TRADOC. After that it honestly felt like there was a bunch of leaders who either got promoted because they could run fast and not because they were passionate skilled leaders that I would want to follow into combat or that those people were once leaders like that, and they got complacent and lost the ambition they may have had 5-15 years prior. The military is struggling not because of a woke culture or it's going soft its struggling because no one wants to fucking stay because the wrong people are getting the opportunities to lead while good soldiers are getting passed up because of either personal grudges from toxic command teams or because the soldier is getting just a straight up better offer than what the military will offer as a civilian.
I think most people aren’t reenlisting because a lot of units aren’t deploying or doing exciting training anymore. The majority of people in the military end up being glorified janitors rather than doing the job that they originally enlisted to do. It also doesn’t help when kids can see how veterans are treated by the VA after they get out of active service.
@@maddix2748 yeah that’s probably a contributing factor as well, I left before we had our mass exodus from Afghanistan so I couldn’t say either way. I do know however there is a ton of units hemorrhaging people because the leadership just couldn’t give a single fuck about its soldiers. My unit struggled with it and most of the guys who I kept in touch with from TRADOC had similar issues as well.
Eareaera……….
Also doesn't help that depending on your MOS it's a pain in the ass to get promoted because of points. 11B and 19K get promoted just by being in but unless you go to Airborne or any specialized schools, SSG is your cap. However, if you're admin like 42A and 56M then you're struggling to make points. You can go to college, do all correspondence courses and still not meet the cut off scores. After a while, you get tired of it and just quit. Kinda funny how 42A are needed across the Army yet it's a pain to get promoted in FORSCOM units.
When people get those better offers, they should always leave, IMO. The longer you stay in the military, the more likely you'll regret it.
Personally for me what’s making this contract my last is they tell you where to live and they constantly tell you”military first before your family(wife and kids)”. In some cases some leadership will say strait up” I don’t give a fuck about your family. For some it’s like being a child all over again having no freedom and there are many suicides because of bound contracts that leave people with the overwhelming feeling of having no way out. Some leadership mock others for being suicidal or will even tell them do it. Attitudes like that in the ranks doesn’t encourage enlistment or retention.
That was a big reason I got out back in 2006: I saw a lot of toxic leadership. Had a young family back then; a wife that had a rough pregnancy and other health issues. "Mission first" was unfortunately something I heard way too much in my final months in (I had already checked out mentally long before). Despite the benefits health-care wise; I wasn't sure if it was worth it to tough out another 12 years of or so of "mission first" and repeated deployments until retirement.
It was tough decision but I'm glad I got out and if I have a final say, neither of my sons will join.
Was at the Gym yesterday and ran into an Army Vet and he told
me to never enlist, stay out, it’s not worth it, that alone explained a lot to me.
Based
Week 21 infantry osut don’t join be your own man. Don’t let another man tell you how to live your life everyday life.
Sounds like a shit bag who couldn’t hack it in the real Army
@@shiftyguggs2415a life in a warzone is no life worth checking
@@shiftyguggs2415 well if it’s ever bad enough there are honorable ways to get out early
The leadership in all the branches don’t understand what is going on. They blame the recruiters for falling short on goals. Instead of changing with the times, they are making the recruiters work longer hours and putting more pressure on them to obtain a goal that is less and less obtainable.
Whats hilarious is this mindset plagues the entire military, and is the REASON both retention and recruitment are low.
I got after 6 years in USAF maintenance because I saw the writing on the wall that they were going to keep pushing less and less, and less qualified, people to get more and more work done, and refuse to actually fix anything until, I dunno, maybe if an entire maintenance unit drank some coolaide just to make it stop or something, lol. I didnt want to be there when the system broke that badly.
So, they failed to retain because of the do more with less mindset (thats literally a mantra our leadership repeated at us by the way, which came down from on high... They love peddling catch phrases as actual management skill, and I get the impression leadership doesnt understand how tone deaf and self evidently stupid mantras like that are. It doesnt convince us of anything, other than that we need to get out, since its clear theyre going to start making a handful of lower enlisted carry the whole damn airforce on their backs if they have to).
Now that theyve failed to retain me, what am I doing? Anti-recruitment, destroying their recruitment numbers. I genuinely want to save people from the BS I went through and had to watch my coworkers go through. And the only way I see of doing that is to literally starve recruitment efforts, by simply being honest about what it was like, to anybody who utters the words "Im thinking of joining the military."
yup recruiters in rural states are complaining about unrealistic numbers and no extra pay for long miles with gas... also for the first time in years/decades ghost soldiers (like iraq army and the afganstian army ) are everywhere and ghosts are being recruited for the recruiters numbers its easier to recruit a ghost than a real person so now its totally normal for 20%-40$ of new recruits to be names on a paper.
recruiters are recruiting cows/dead people
@@stupidminotaur9735 You get a government vehicle to use as a recruiter, or you claim back the mileage in DTS. Not sure how "ghost soldiers" would work in the US military - even if you had the entire entrance processing station in on the scam, it would be exposed the instant that trainees were missing from boot camp.
@@thelight3112 who quotes... ghost soldiers are making they. i know 1 real soldier who got ghosted fir 2 years he was just dead in a field/woods poor guy
I'm Not an American, to preface this.
I have a friend that served in the US Army. He signed up for all those stereotypical reasons that you hear about. He hated almost every moment of his career after he completed BMT. His Superiors were absolutely incompetent, the Bureaucracy was unbelievably insane, and he spent most of his time sitting around on his ass, waiting for orders or the Bureaucracy to realise he existed. He got out, luckily enough, and has never looked back since,
As a retired Marine (29 years) I can still remember the first week as I wasn't completely with the program. I paid for it until I eventually got the message, and once I stopped trying to put that square peg in that round hole I actually got the purpose and reason for everything I was being taught. It gave me everything that I have in me today and I am grateful for everything that the Corps taught me. (except grammar)
Heh heh nice
Aye
“Except grammar”…it doesn’t take much education to be a good soldier.
@@bluetickbeagles116 I beg to differ. Today’s soldiers deal with hi tech equipment, advanced mathematics all while of the least forgiving of classrooms. The modern battlefield.
@@bluetickbeagles116 The art of killing your enemies in an organized and efficient manner
Is an education within its self.
I’m in my early 30s, and I’ve been trying to join the military for over 3 years. I’ve been thrown roadblock after roadblock due to medical history, stuff that hasn’t been relevant since I was a teenager. But MEPS keeps asking me for more and more bs requests. Now I have a job that I really like with pretty good benefits, and even though I’m still trying to get cleared for service, I’m at the point where I don’t even care anymore. If Uncle Sam is trying to make it this hard for people that actually WANT to join, no wonder they’re facing a recruiting crisis.
Had a similar problem as well. And it was for ADHD of all things. Had hunt down and search for documentation that didn't even exist anymore. It got so annoying to deal with that I just gave up on trying to join.
@@i0am0superBlast ADD was one of the things that gave me so much trouble, too. It’s ridiculous
Totally agree
The government hates its own citizens and vets having any medical needs, no shock it stretches to the military
My recruiter just told me. “You’ve had no medical issues so we’re not marking any.” When in reality I’ve had plenty of issues including ptsd.
recruiter: "hey buddy wanna fight for your country while riskng your life?"
potential recruit: "can i drink?"
recruiter:"nah you're too young for that"
Hit the nail on the head.
Yep that's why if they volunteer they should be exempt from that law.
No drinking, no smoking.
@@amkrause2004 Drunk soldiers cause more issues then it's worth. Legal age, 21. No less.
@@WintersFinalstand Joes get drunk regardless under the age. So it really don't change much
I think the problem is that we as a country lack a cohesive purpose. There isn't enough agreement on what we need to be fighting for.
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I struggled for years to try and get into the British army and navy as a commonwealth citizen. I applied for the army but they closed all positions to commonwealth citizens soon after. I applied for the navy but was told there is a waiting list. After about 2-3 years of following up on a bi monthly basis eventually my application was declined due to there still being huge backlog on the waiting list and me being close to 30yr old by the time they would have gotten to my application. They create there own recruitment shortage
Most of those grueling clips where the recruits were suffering were Marine recruits. I don’t expect most people to know the difference between Army and USMC, but the difference is huge.
Damn right it is
A lot of the clips showed National Guard programs. Notice the combat patches on the right sleeves.
editor here, yes most footage is actually marine recruits as there is very limited footage of army recruits available online. But as you said, most people don't know the difference, so I made a decision to use "marine recruits" and even "coast guard recruits" footage as it was still relevant. Hope this explains and I did expect few people to catch up on this :)
@@charlesdavenport2543 training is still the same
@@NotWhatYouThink *Marine. Capitalize the letter “M” when referencing U.S. Marines.
As a navy vet whenever I’m asked about my time in the military from someone thinking about joining I’m always brutally honest about my experience and time served on the LHD-4 USS Boxer…it was a terrible fucking time. My chain of command was not only corrupt but so toxic that the entire boats morale was so low that we had a genuine suicide problem while on my first deployment. The culture that was created by poor leadership with poor integrity left the worst possible taste in my mouth. Not only that but once you get out and have your dd214 GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting the adequate help that you rightfully deserve from the VA. I had to fight tooth and nail for any sort of benefits regarding my hearing loss, came in with great hearing and left being completely deaf in one ear due to running out of hearing ppe on deployment (I was an AO so I shot a lot of guns with no protection) and this is just the tip of the ice berg with my personal experience….the ptsd I got from watching multiple of my shipmates take their life in front of multiple sailors and in gruesome ways really fucked me up for a while and will be something I don’t think I ever quite shake off all the way…did the VA do it’s job with that either? Absolutely not, at times and depending on what location, you as a vet are their absolute bottom priority.
I understand the military can change peoples life for the better but it also has the potential to completely ruins one as well. You’ve always gotta weigh the pros and the cons and with the info available to todays youth I just think it’s an easy decision for them to avoid these days.
Why were yall committing suicide? Was there combat?
@@AC-ri2ph
Abuse from above i expect
@@AC-ri2ph navy deployments aren’t like the other branches especially when it comes to combat, unless you’re like a HM or have special order to be attached to a MEU normally what happens is you sit off coast and help supply the marines/get them to land/supplement them. I spent a lot of the time attaching bombs to helos on the flight deck as G1 but you get stuck out at sea on a piece of shit boat working under a piece of shit command it makes the days, the months become brutal. Motherfuckers become depressed and if your COC is as bad as ours was there’s not much you can do to address your mental health, your CO sets the tone, the culture the environment for the rest of the leaders and at that time ours was just very shitty.
Most sailors that do take their life do so by jumping overboard at night, I genuinely don’t remember how many pairs of boots we found on the flight deck or smoke pit with a note to their family in it. You spend the next two days looking for someone in the water you’ll never find. And I know it’s fucked to say but those were the easy ones to deal with, no mess no cleanup just a body you’ll never find. We had a GM blow his head off in the armory in front of a few of us…we ain’t even know he was suicidal. You ain’t know what people are dealing with and when someone feels trapped and like they have no resources to get to the point where they want to live….well then that’s what happens. It wasn’t a coincidence that we had one of the highest suicide rates at the time along with the absolute lowest retention rates out of the west coast commands.
I completely agree with this approach. My nephews want to join and I was asked, "What is a good job in the Army?".
I told them, "They all suck. It is more about the people you are serving with that make it good or bad."
AF vet here and agree
Im 21 and a few weeks ago I was talking to an army recruiter and he said they’ve lowered their recruitment standards and are allowing people they wouldn’t have even considered years ago.
If I were you, I would find a trade, get really good at it and start making $$$$. No Army and no college.
@@EJ257IHIlet him make his decisions, don't decide for him because even trades don't guarantee alot
If the recruiter's lips are moving ,there are lying!!!
For other stuff, yeah.@@henrymosquera8646
Toxicity is the number one reason people get out, but when people know or can see it before they even join....😬
Here is the thing, when I went through basic training back in the 2000s shark attack was expected. This is what I learned personally during shark attack: You can tell when a person hasn't been yelled at by their parents, People who thought shark attack was stressful usually buckled under real stress. For me the shark attack wasn't stressful because I knew sergeants couldn't physically touch me. There was one dude (actually 3) who was with me during basic and couldn't handle the shark attack, when we got to AIT he got phased back because he couldn't handle the stress of the course we did, finally when he got to my permanent Duty station, about 2 months after me, he bucked when we went to Iraq. We were not infantry or anything hardcore, just tech guys fixing NVGs. What I find annoying about the (New military) is that they have an image problem they don't want to fix. They should be showing all the true benefits of actually making a career in the military, and the downside. Most people think joining the military is for a bunch of low IQ people, but some of the smartest people I've met were in the military which surprised me.
When i applied for the police academy (in europe) at the psychological exam we had a desk the size of a plate, papers coming at us non stop, each had dozens of questions to test our logical reasoning, all of them very long and convoluted. That was after waiting 4 hours for no reason followed by 2 hours of this and more pointless waiting. One guy said all the waiting was also part of the test to wear us down, and it stuck with me. I failed the written exam (grammar was the main subject) after passing the physical one so i can't really say what other techniques they might use for selection.
"but some of the smartest people I've met were in the military which surprised me."
Because they were poor. Military is made of mostly crayon eaters because it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to be grunt and the lack of it helps them not realizing the shit they are in. Military would have to match silicon valley salaries and then some for smart people to waste their lives and their intelligence for the benefit of politicians.
I'm pretty sure it's not the image of low iq that is the problem.
It could be high sucide rate among soldiers, incompetent leadership in certain base, "bad past war", relatively low pay for the amount of work, and the military tendency to sweep things under the floor. Like abuse of power and sexual assault.
People today are less delusional than before and more current and former soldiers share Thier experience on duty online which tend to be negative. Positive exist, but we know which spread further and faster.
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk 100%, growing up seeing the consequences of military service so vividly is going to have an effect.
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk The war is not military issue (meaning they can't choose when and where to fight), that is a political issue. Gen-Y and Gen-z can fix that by voting but chose not to for the past 15yrs. Pay issue, again is a political issue, no one in the civilian world raises the issue of lack of pay, military brass has made it an issue for the past 12yrs and no one cares in politics. Abuse of power and sexual assault is a problem in any institution not just only the military. As for Mental health that is a VA issue and not a military issue. The stigma of mental health is prevalent in the united states. Which prevents people from getting help. Either way all of this is moot, because we are going to war with China and the draft will be implemented.
For the overweight problem the army can simply introduce a longer training program that is double the time or so. A program more focused on losing that weight and educating.
It would grow the pool of qualified people and would create an avenue for kids dealing with weight and self confidence issues to overcome the problems instead of just letting them create all sorts of mental issues over their life.
These are the things that can make great societies and are efficient uses of social resources. It solves multiple issues at once that would compound when not adressed.
Not too bad of an idea
I agree with this. I think there could also be work behind the scenes to try and help kids in lower income situations (the socioeconomic class most likely to struggle with weight issues) to build healthier habits. Like teaching them how to cook better meals and stuff rather than relying on the dollar menu or something.
The problem is money. That doubles the cost of training when they can just recruit healthy people.
I think that it would be more efficient to implement that sort of training program outside or before entering the military. In fact its better to implement that within regular education since a healthier population would benefit society more rather than isolate it in the military
@@0b3ryn29 yeah of course. I think he was saying more of a possible solution especially if there comes a time when we really need more active personnel
I never wanted to join as I see how poorly veterans are treated and the enemy's crime often seem like a wealthy person's means of becoming wealthier.
One of the main things I've always believed to help boost recruitment numbers were to give the population a clear threat that they need to stand up and fight against.
-WW2: Fight against Fascism and Nazis
-Cold War: Fight against Communism
-War on Terror: Fight against Islamic extremism
See the trends? Every major period in time since WW2, the Government/Military always had an enemy to paint for the population to stand up against...but you can only do this for so long. We saw this in Vietnam when the war prolonged. We saw it in Afghanistan when the war prolonged. Eventually the population will wave off the "Boogeyman" The Government paints and the media won't change any minds.
They're trying to do this again with the likes of China, Russia, and North Korea...but the population isn't biting this time. Why should we send our kids to fight in a war in another part of the world that doesn't have anything to do with us?
A lot of young people are beginning to realize that they don't *have* to do anything. We got a lot of problems in our own country we gotta deal with, why would we over extend ourselves when our own situation at home isn't resolved yet?
I went to basic I 1984. During a road march suddenly my friend fell down and rolled into the ditch. We weren't allowed to move, and I watched the drill instructor kick him numerous times while screaming at him to get up. He had, had a heart attack, and was lying dead in the ditch..they never even bent down to check why he was lying there! They just started kicking him..I'm sure they left that part out when they wrote his mother. So sad.
Thats fkn traumatic bro im sorry that happened
Oh my god.....
I don't know about 1984, but that would have been a court martial and jailable crime in 1986. I hope someone reported him.
@@Kalroy I think they would say he lied at the recruiting station and refuse to pay his family because he have preexisting conditions. Or it will be sweep under the rug because I doubt the drill sergeant know he actually passed.
In all fairness.. why would the instructor think a young healthy person would drop dead of a heart attack?
I always thought that they are supposed to show you no mercy on a military course because the enemy will show you even less mercy.
I imagine the higher ups being anti social personality disorder jocks that see it in a less virtuous mindset. Just a job.
Not philosophical warriors but a bunch of Jocks wanting power/money.
which fucking enemy when you're a tech or behind a desk, plus breaking during the shark atatck or whatever does not result into the army kicking you out so it cannot "weed out the weak"
@@currenlydying the fucking enemy who is in the same job as you whether you thought about it or not. everyone has a crucial role in any branch that helps the next person and ppl
@@juggernauttv6026 you're not fighting them directly with your bare hands which is what was implied. It's not like the other mech is gonna overclock it's snap on to show you no mercy
@@currenlydying but what you need to realize is this if the Russians or Chinese whenever they get their pieces of the game of chess in the 2nd cold war we're in they're ppl will not be on your bullshit that your saying they gonna be locked in and loaded even if they are working behind a desk or a computer they will do whatever it means to win for their country for their families or their government
Here's my thoughts as an actual veteran:
The reason why people aren't joining is because of the following:
1. Since the creation of social media. People have told their stories. People understand how often veterans get fucked by the system and many don't think it's worth risking their life over.
2. The newer generations know that the Gov are cutting disability pay, and VA benefits. So again, what's the point if I can't get aid for my service related injuries?
3. it's widely known that mental illness, SA, and R@pe are rampant at a multitude of bases. People are also aware that 99% of the time, leadership does nothing about it. Despite SARC, MP's and Mental Health Services on base are a thing. Most of the time, using those services will make you a target for hazing and harassment by said leadership.
4. For LGBT service men and women, they understand that who they are has to be suppressed. Imagine lying to those closest to you for 4-6 years. Let alone 20. Just recently has the Marine Corps banned the Confederate Flag. Over all, if your values don't align with those around you, you will be a target of harassment and harm. Not just by your wingmen/battle buddies, but by your leadership as well.
5. Some people just don't want to be used for political arguments. This entire video sounds like it was written by someone who:
a) never served
b) only listens to boomers who served during Vietnam - the Gulf War. And since many of them are homophobic and hate change. They're going to dunk on anything that makes them obsolete.
So heed my words random internet person reading my comments. The military isn't woke. It's just recognizing that different kinds of people in the world exist. America is a melting pot. While serving I've fought along side of Muslims, Sikhs, Norse Pagans, Gay/Trans people, Liberals, Conservatives, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Witches/Wiccans, people from Guam, etc. They're just as valid as me. A white dude born and raised in the bible belt. Racism and prejudice doesn't belong in today's military. United we stand, divided we fall.
As a veteran of the US Navy served 26 years retired as a E8 my experience was 90% excellent you get out of the armed forces what you put into it just like anything in life. I learned a trade have a good retirement receive 100% disability and work full time and an aviation Maintenance inspector. I am well taken care of nothing was given to me it was all earned with hard work dedication attention to detail the problem with people now they think they're entitled to making rank getting what they want when they want posting garbage on Social media how they hate being told what to do they cant smoke weed. When we get into a real war and we will we will at some point watch all the pansy ass bitches fold like a lawn chair.....
The problem is it's getting harder and harder to convince people that the bigger and bigger overreach by the government is for the best interests of the people, and not just the best interest of the politicians and the organizations they take their bribes from.
Served as a 19K in the Army.
Was literally the fittest soldier (highest PT scores) in my entire Battalion.
Got promoted through the ranks from Private to Sergeant in just over 2 years time. (my leadership would get waivers to promote me earlier than what is usually allowed).
In other words, I was a very fine addition to the Army (Not boasting here, just getting to my point).
I never enjoyed my MOS however, and tried multiple times to reclass to a different MOS.
I wasn't allowed because said MOS did not need Sergeants, only E-4's and below.
I told the retention officers I'd take a reduction in rank if they'd just let me reclass to that MOS.
Also made clear that my intention was to leave the Army if the reclass wasn't accepted.
They still wouldn't allow it, and instead kept pushing to reenlist in my current MOS for another 3 years. (even offering 40k $)
Needless to say, they didn't let me reclass, and so I left.
It's been about 3 years since I've been out and I still get phone calls from recruiters regularly asking if I want to come back.
You would think that during a time of low retention and recruitment, they'd be smart enough to retain a guy who actually enjoys the Army and goes beyond the standards. Hell, I was willing to take a pay cut (aka a lower rank) as long as they'd put me in the MOS of my choice.
Stupid decision making like that is part of the reason they're stuck in this situation. Motivated soldiers are worth GOLD yet the Army refuses to use logic to retain them. They're still stuck in this mentality of "you need us" while the reality is that THEY need US & not the other way around.
The amount of times I've heard of other soldiers getting told "you'll end up sleeping under a bridge if you leave" by their leadership is laughably sad. Civilian employers are dying for disciplined and motivated young people to join their company.
PS: Yes I'm still salty about it lol. Even though I'm enjoying my civilian job and make more than double as much as I did in the Army, I do miss the culture and the camaraderie.
@@SpaceX-Falcon-Heavy MOS = Your job in the Army
Mission operational specialty aka your main job
Serves ya right warping, you fed into the hand of psychotics
Idgaf modern war is stupid as hell and needs to be eliminated worldwide, we’re dying for scum.
@Christian Adams cry ? Nah. Complain on the internet ? Perhaps
When you’ve been fighting pointless conflicts against shapeless enemies for decades, don’t be surprised when people grow up and stop believing in the boogeyman enough to want to fight him.
Spot on. Especially when you feel the results of massive wasteful government spending overseas, while our own country is completely neglected and devoid of well used tax dollars.
@@BFVsnypEzthere’s a pretty obvious reason no other country really fucks with the usa and it’s because of the military. Take that away and every other country isn’t scared anymore
@@BFVsnypEz eh until two totalitarian regimes rise up and try to star WW3... OH WAIT
Or you realized you signed up to be the boogeyman. 😳
Shut up people in U.S stopped enlisting in the U.S Military after they have seen that "Emma and his two moms" It's exactly the opposite. American youth woke up from their libertard, woke culture state and said a big F off to army that doesn't represent them anymore.
same problem here in australia, recruitment and retention is in the pits, people discharging at insane rates, no one wants to join. A lot of militaries around the world seem to be suffering from this problem
I think it's just countries like in Western Europe, US, Canada and Australia. Which is not alot
Except India, where there is a beeline for Army, Navy and Air Force recruitments, especially for Personnel Below Officer Rank(Soldier, Sailor and Airman). Most of the PBOR recruits come from villages and small towns across India, mostly belonging to lower middle class families. Those guys slog it out for 4 years in order to get selected in any of these 3 armed forces.
But now, with the Indian govt's decision to recruit PBORs through Agnipath (meaning Path of Fire in Hindi language) scheme, most youngsters would find joining the Armed Forces unattractive, because of the 4 years service, similar to 4 year contract in the US Army, and the fact that after 4 years, upto 25 % of those servicemen would be retained for 16 years pensionable service. Who would want to study and exercise for 4 years just to be in Army for 4 years? In earlier recruitments, Army soldiers used to retire after 15 years service in Army, and get a pension for life. They knew that they have to serve for 15 years at least, so they had this motivation to learn necessary skills, like high altitude warfare, counter insurgency, operating Artillery guns etc. And those soldiers naturally followed orders of superiors to the t as they wanted to serve long years in order to retire with a pension. Agnipath recruits won't have as much motivation as compared to soldiers serving for longer periods of time.
@@rainz4599As an Indian, I would agree. Developed countries like US, or countries having population decline like China face this problem of not having enough recruits for Armed Forces.
@@ayushmankumar1483 China makes it up by mandatory conscription, all of their male population knows basic firearm knowledge.
Alot of western military recruitment decline is because their people no longer took pride in their military, and alot of them think being a soldier is not worth it, it's psychological.
While Asian countries for example India's military are viewed with respect and awe by the Indian population. So naturally people want to join
If we look back, there are plenty of examples. Many historic superpowers gained their supremacy by own armies. But when they started to use mercenaries, they started own degeneration. The recipe for sure demise is still same, start replacing own soldiers with mercenaries, it sounds good on paper, but it never ended good for any empire. And US is started to use them quite often.
I'm an Air Force vet. I find it damn near impossible to tell any of my family members to join the military just so that when they come home on vacation, the cops still think they are drug dealers. When that stop happening, I'll be a lot more willing to say join the military.
I guess you're black?
Yea I think that problem is more limited to your family than the general public.
@@bdan6954 If that's what you think, then that means you are the problem and you are just under cover racist.
@@bdan6954 lol literally "not our problem minority" really bro
@@bdan6954 I mean the general public just kinda sees the US government and by extension the military as having no honor because it's so corrupt at every level of government.
As an ex-Marine I feel conflicted. The yelling and screaming is meant to get you used to stress. Like my Drill Instructors told me, the enemy isn’t going to be nice to you. We need to be ready for that. But at the same time how else are we supposed to hit our numbers? If we keep the same standards, there may not be a Marine Corps left in the next 50 years.
You can start the yelling and screaming after day 30, when they develop a identity with the army and bond with Thier batch mates.
No point using it from day one, you'll just lose them. Since they literally just got there and have zero attachment or understanding of the military or the army yet.
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk I don't know. As people who are training to go into combat, soldiers and Marines need to learn how to deal with sensory overload. And if a recruit cannot mentally or physically deal with it, better to get them out of the system on Day 1 rather than put them through the trial, effort, and cost of a month's worth of training, or, worse, wait until they actually get into combat to do it.
Definitely a sticky situation the armed forces needs to think about to solve.
They need to increase the base pay as well.
What a shame that would be
2004 born here, when I was in my teens I wanted nothing more than to join the military. I was born into a JW family (though my mother was excommunicated after my birth) so I never had any family that served (or family, in general). I was going to be the first and I was gonna be proud of myself. However, due to underperforming in highschool and my drug use/weight problem, the idea of serving left me a long time ago. And I'm glad it did. There's no reason to enlist anymore. What's the point of enlisting nowadays?
Well for starters, seems like it could give you some much needed discipline, no offense
@@pumitriii6160 yeah imma join to get tough mentally and physically but also because I gotta honor the family
I don't have parents and it's my last chance at life kinda... but go army!
Any time I've ever asked someone who's served about joining the military, their responses have always been "Don't do it, life is never so bad that you need to enlist."
Learning & seeing how veterans are treated, both from family who are ex-military and seeing it constantly discussed in the news, is also a huge deterrent.
Debt relief programs would be a good incentive. I bet they'd see more twenty-somethings then
"Don't do it, life is never so bad that you need to enlist."
100% true. This comment needs more upvotes. It's far more profitable for (low educated) people to take a year break, mature al little and then get some higher education. Because the armed forces is guaranteed a loss of multiple years. When you're out, you begin again at zero.
I remember meeting with our retention nco as my contract was coming to an end. He asked me what my plan was, and I told him; I'm getting out. The Army doesn't need me, and with all the stuff coming down the pike....the stuff being shoved down our throats...shows that the Army doesn't even want me anymore. He just smiled, and nodded in understanding. That was almost 10 years ago.
I wanted to reenlist when my first contract came to an end, (so much favoritism was going on in my unit) but I wanted to pcs or change my mos, they offered nothing so I left. I had a friend who was kicked out for no reason. He woke up one day and they told him he was getting out. Now 10 years later, it’s funny seeing the military struggling to get people to join.
There are a lot of reason why the U.S. Military is having recruitment problems from my observation. Alot of blame to go around.
1. Toxic Leadership and the ability for said Toxic Leadership to destroy your whole life though the power of a pen.
2. Poor treatment of American troops and not caring about them once they leave the military.
3. People that want to join but can't due to multiple restrictions. Also, lower standards of training, discipline and not holding toxic leadership accountable is another one.
4. Most American aren't able to join due to physical or mental health conditions. Sometimes its both. It doesn't help that some Americans' can't even get help for those conditions because they can't afford it. But that is another story.
5. Softer generation as well and not having a strong educational system or support systems to help people become stronger individuals.
6. There are better careers in the civilian market that people don't need to join the US military anymore and put themselves though any abuse from military, and civilian leadership. Worse, die in a war that makes no sense.
7. There is tons of information out there that have exposed the dark side of the US military, poor leadership in Washington and the failed wars in the middle east. Its enough damage to discourage anyone from joining.
8. Nobody wants to fight a war that isn't fully justify and the America population as a whole is tired of countless wars. All in all, the damage is done. It appears the US Military and US Government will need to do a lot of soul searching to fix things to get people to join including connecting with the population in a more sincere way. Last, the US Government needing to do a better job of taking care of the population.
The military wasn't designed to win wars for the right reasons and it wasn't for our freedom
It was for the freedom of the rich who own this country and to instill truama and pain with constant generations to come so people will be inflicted by their family members who suffered abuse while serving who are apart of the tradition.
It's really a psy ops on the american public.
Poor leadership and toxicity in the armed forces were never a problem. Horrible leadership and toxicity have been in the forces since the First World War and beyond. It's trust in the government that pushes men away from enlisting.
first solve the issue of fatfobia and the 'thats offensive' those kinds of people will fail in any task when they will be faced with enemy soldiers who had far harsher training they will chicken out allowing lazy,gen z to the army will decrease the USA military level allot not that i care tho i rather have nato get nuked today
im just telling ya'll the US army will get smoked once they fight with real soldiers
And yes, we're all tired of endless wars and idiot Democrats and RINOs constantly trying to start more.
@@Vein2384 I wouldn't say the government itself is the problem but the overall society.
The US is decadent. It's getting destroyed from the inside with a quasi civil war. The other side of the culture war seems like a stanger that is trying to exterminate people like you.
In that context, you'd be forced to obey the orders of your enemies if you're a soldier.
It's worst than low trust (incompetent/corrupt), it's plain enmity (the others are actively trying to destroy you).
I think a big part of this problem for the military is that we keep fighting stupid wars far from home that go on for long periods of time with no clear objective.
Exactly.
I am former Navy and I can say is don't do it. They don't pay enough when you start out and the training is absolutely insane... When i was being trained.. our training for mechanics was a computer video on how to fix a diesel engine. No hands on experience, until you got into the field. Just not worth it.
My cousin was a navy luitentent and he said that life on the carriers was a living hell.
The food had traces of bromine so his hairline started receeding and his heart started skipping beats during sleep/ the constant sound of jets taking off made him lose a shit ton of sleep, he witnissed several suicides while on deck of soliders jumping off the ship, the "free college" was plauged with constant PT and hell weeks, and when he got home he was just depressed.
So much put in for so little out of it, he's doing okay but he got fucked up in the head for no reason other than "military hoorah"
Every service member I talk to plead to stay out of the service. There's no honor in fucking up your body for a government that doesnt give a damn about you and carries out shady/dirty drills in foreign affairs that don't make sense.
The MRE they serve us are so toxic that consumed enough times is fatal. And it’s not much times. They can last for decades and still remain unexpired. Good as new. I realized while I was in that I wouldn’t want to touch it with a ten foot pole. I was forced to survive on it and I only consumed a small amount for the energy required to complete training. While dehydrated. I wouldn’t wish it on prisoners. It’s cruel and unusual punishment but when we signed the contract we didn’t know what an MRE was as there was no mention. It’s like signing to waive the cruel and unusual punishment clause on ourselves.
Whoever raised you did a good job brother, fucking preach.
Outstanding info. Young folks should listen to your comment.
life on a boat doesn't seem fun
Nothing's changed except the quality of recruits and lack of testosterone
The fact that they don't take people for being poor is absolutely asinine.
That is an unreasonable hiring standard.
It's supposed to be an opportunity.
It's not about being poor, it's about having debt. And honestly, the military is among the worst options, if you do. Not only do you not earn much, there's no opportunity for part time employment. If you need to earn, this isn't the best place to start.
Let the bankers go fight the war on the battlefield.
Has nothing to do with being poor. It has everything to do with making bad financial decisions and allowing yourself to get into debt. If you make poor financial decisions when you don't have much money, you'll make bad choices when you do have money.
@@RealJeep what about inherit debt or a mortgage. The first thing new recruits do is buy a car on loan.
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I'm glad my Father-army, Uncle-navy, Grandpa-marines all made sure I didn't go anywhere near the military. How far the U.S.A has fallen.😢 😢
I remember going through basic and on my first day I put on the incorrect parka. And when one of my instructors noticed that. She marched me back to our barracks to get the right rain parka, after giving me a ear full of how much I had fucked up.
"me me millennials and phone zombies of gen z." This had me in stitches. President Truman once said "The buck stops here." for dealing with responsibility, and that was back in 1953. Do you really think that shaming this generation would drive recruitment when the leaders of the army can't take the same level of responsibility? These leaders don't have just one clown, it's contains a whole circus.
Well if we get into war with China and Russia we're in a mess with this generation they get mowed down on the battlefield the way this government LGBTQ and transgender and other things stupid Biden and they that support him do we left Afghanistan shamefully that's why Russia is in Ukraine right now we are weak we have a weak president trumps withdrawal from Afghanistan would have worked but Biden decided to just leave like that left the Taliban stronger than they were before we went in.they all know we are weak that's why all this is happening
@@harolddavis1493 Sorry, but I care much more about the aftereffects of military service, instead of focusing on the policies made by the current president. Currently, 11-20% of vets suffer mental illnesses and 7% of male and 13% of female veterans suffer PTSD. Plus, TRICARE currently has a list of over 50 medical service that exclusions that they deem "not medically or psychologically necessary". This lists includes exclusions for "hospitalization for medical or surgical error", "unproven procedures" and even "elective services or supplies". Those 3 alone can easily be used to deny even basic medical care let alone the issues mentioned above!
Also, did you know that 7%-13% of vets are homeless? And that 1/3 of the total homeless population are veterans? If their training meant something, then it should be easy to get a stable living wage back in the states right? Nope, their physical and mental problems prevent them from earning the wages of the 2-3 part-time jobs most millennials have to make ends meet. So no, I don't think the promises of college tuition (oh man that's a rabbit hole for another time) pan out to much when you can't afford rent after 8 years (average time for a military contract) serving Uncle Sam.
In the end, these veterans showcase the many lies the military uses in its campaigns. They are the true reasons to not join, because they are your probable future if you join the military. The strong, competent, well-adjusted, optimistic ex-soldier is a carefully fabricated lie that should fool no one. Demeaning, lying propaganda will not fix this issue, taking responsibility of their own soldiers will.
@@Arc3752 I care about our veterans my family has a rich military history from WW2 to Vietnam I believe we need to take care of our veterans better than we do they need care but this government it seems to me don't I'm talking about the future generations if this government policies and this LGBTQ crt transgender and all that the training that needs to stay the same because we might have to deal with some powerful militaries this is not going to be an Afghanistan Iraq type conflict if one happens we will be facing 2 powerful opponents Biden s government is not the government we need we need trump back rebuild our military get back on track then we can be the superpower we are supposed to be you misunderstood my comment I think we are right now provoking a war with Russia and maybe china we need to take care of all our people over here look at what's going on in this country right now
@@Arc3752 well I understand your point I agree with that to my family history of military service my mom's uncle who fought in WW2 in the Philippines he had PTSD all his life I remember my mom telling me that he had nightmares and things so yes I deeply care about that to but my point was this current situation in our country and how the military is training these guys it needs to go back to the way it was so our guys can be ready but I honor the vets of this country and I hope that we just don't have a war while Biden is in office we need trump back
@@Arc3752 Every vet I know is about as "adjusted" as I am, and I survived a "small" bombing, a few stabbings, and years of dealing with a system that didn't help me with that stuff a bit. They do not come home "well adjusted and civilized" and it gets them in the ass in most normal work environments. You are absolutely right about the "well-adjusted" part being a complete falsehood, but that's because we as a society continue to make the criteria harder and harder to meet for people with actual trauma.
However, many of those men and women are optimistic and some of the most competent people i know (regardless of mental or physical strength/fortitude) and I would never personally take anyone else in their stead. They get treated like dirt in the public sector because they're morbid and calm about just about anything, trauma becomes jokes, and so on so forth. People don't understand that's normal if they haven't experienced trauma, but it is; the fact "we" discriminate against them for normal trauma behaviours is a big part of why so many are homeless, coupled with our abysmal mental health institutions of course. It's also what kills their optimism over time, and turns them jaded and hopeless.
TL;DR
A lot of that is due to society "othering" them because they don't understand their trauma/mentality rather than the soldiers themselves being broken from war. Those that are broken, however, can't find help because our system is also broken.
As someone who is actively in the recruiting process at this exact moment, I’ll tell you exactly why people aren’t joining.
Medical disqualifications
Now, you might think these are really important as they can make sure people who can’t handle military life won’t get in helping everyone right?
Wrong
Literally any medical condition, no matter how minor or inconsequential, will force you to get a medical waiver. All I had was just some eczema on my hands that every dermatologist I’ve ever seen has said was totally under control and wouldn’t affect my ability to serve in any way. You want to know how long it took me to get a medical waiver for just that?
6 MONTHS
I have been in the recruiting process for about a year now and I’m in danger of needing another waiver because I had my first ever kidney stone when I was 30 days out from boot camp. A condition that about 16% or so of all men have, and to be clear mine was extremely small (only 2mm), might force me to have to wait another 6 months or longer just to go to boot camp.
And just in case you think this is just a minor me problem, ask any new recruit, especially the ones in the Coast Guard, how long they had to wait to go to boot camp. Almost all of them will say 1-2 years. It’s absolutely absurd for a job that demands so much and gives so little in return.
Have been recruiting for 11 years. Interesting how no one is talking about this. When it’s 90% of the issue that those on the ground are dealing with
@@roberteichelberger4443 Ye I'm suprised about it too. It's almost insulting when nearly everyday I see a new article about a lack of new recruits for the military and they blame just about anything other than this. Makes me feel like screaming it's so obvious. This situation is especially bad for me because I am joining at 26 years old, and if I have to get another waiver I could be 27 by the time I actually get in which would make me an old man compared to everyone else there.
@@lughheim835 I am a 14 year vet of the Army, that was long ago though. But I do get emails from Veteran Organizations and there was an article I read recently about the two biggest dis-qualifiers and it was Medical and Issues with the Law. Lots of mental issues and bad behavior. Back in the day it was overweight being a major disqualifier. It would be tough to be a recruiter these days.
I don’t trust recruiters, they target gold star kids. Burn in 🔥
@@kevinsedwards you most definitely are because they now have software that allows them to remotely check all of your past medical records automatically. If you go into the military and they find out you didn’t tell them about so much as a broken bone they will instantly dishonorably discharge you.
I am set to retire the Air Force after 20 years as an Avionics Aircraft Maintainer this December and its crazy looking back on how much military life has changed in these past 20 years. My first deployment as an A1C to the sandbox in 2005 had me staying up until midnight to use 15-minute phone cards to call back home and I worked out of a tent. My last deployment to the same place as a TSgt in 2018, I bought a data SIM card from the BX for my phone and could chat at any time with my wife...my room had Wi-Fi so I was still able to play video games after work! The part I was most interested about was at the end when retention was mentioned. I feel this is waaay more of an issue than recruitment. Now that I'm leaving, I'm getting asked why don't I stay the extra 2 years to high year tenure and get promoted...lol no way man, I worked my ass off trying to get MSgt for the past 7 years and kept getting denied and now you want to dangle a stripe in my face to keep me when I'm on my way out the door?? The promotion process for the Air Force is fucked and they are unnecessarily getting rid of highly experienced Airmen for new ones with the hope that it will pay off...it's not by the way. I talk to 4 and 6 year enlistee Airmen daily and the majority of them plan on getting out after their first-term due to lack of progression. Don't get me wrong, I love the Air Force for what they've provided me and my family, otherwise I wouldn't have gave them the prime of my life...but Air Force senior leadership needs to focus on expanding Airmen's opportunities for progression instead of focusing on 1 inch neck tattoos...I will say the hands in pockets thing is the greatest new reg of all time though.
💯 agree. I see this in my branch as well. It’s a huge driving factor as to why I’ve seen several good people leave the military.
hands in pockets?
F-16 AVI from 2016-22. Was at Osan, Aviano and Holloman. Never met more miserable people than the ones at Aviano and that was what influenced me to get our
💯Glad you endured my uncle AF Retired is part of the reason I joined the Marines and I had a awesome AF MSgt. and Lt. Col in JROTC is HS all great men! I joined in 00 and I agree with everything you said I saw the Corps change so much on top of the GWOT. 12 was all I could endure mentally, physically, spiritually. I got a little break going to Okinawa but that lasted 1yr luckily, I saw my daughter born and spent her first year at home. I saw the decline my last year in the quality of people they were putting in was sad, entitled whiney lazy, brats, very few patriots like pre/ post 9/11, then came all the political crap, I was glad to go out I left Afghanistan early to EAS it was bitter sweet. I'll always miss the Corps but it was perfect timing watching from the outside in Covid, all the BS, the Afghan pull out, CRT, LGBTQ training, female male bootcamp, getting out besides my Lord, marrying my hs love, was the best decision I ever made! Thank you for your service enjoy retirement! We Jarheads give the AF crap but no one runs a flightline better! SF🤘
You haven't lived till you've had three campaign covers banging in your head with men screaming at you with the top of their lungs till a vein pops out in your forehead and you are hoarse from screaming "Sir, yes, sir" over and over again. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Make it hard and impossible so when I get in those situations, I don't freak out.
They need to show the good with the bad.
I joined the USMC at 17 instead of going to college because I couldn't rely on my family to support me after I came out. It was difficult, demanding, and both deployments were nerve wracking. But it was an adventure, I served with the greatest people I've met in my life, I got in shape, and the VA took care of me afterward. Smash cut to 10 years after enlisting and I own a house, get a pension, and can live self-employed.
The military needs to be seen as a trade: stability, skills, and benefits in exchange for 4+ years of toil. There are plenty of people who would take that deal.
You sound like a recruitment ad.
Imagine if the trucking industry hired you.
You get possible artillery shells,we get fresh body.
Fair trade
@@690_5it just sucks seeing young people dismiss the military as an option because Tumblr says we all come out as homeless, crippled psychopaths, lmao
Everything you stated were benifits you obtained with your own hands, not the help of the military. It sounds like you are a survivor, considering you got lucky enough not to have PTSD (which isn't on the VAs priority list while they launder money).
These kids grew up while the military was fighting two stupid, pointless wars.
I rather go to prison than join the military. My father fought in two wars and retired from the military, it takes 3 years for him to get some kind of medical treatment at the VA hospital. Watching what veterans go through is enough for me.
First 100 yards is such a good idea, from my Canadian perspective. A soldier who is fully invested in their unit is more likely to work hard to not let them down vs the one that has been "broken." Broken could mean they are just looking for their escape. Only need to look to a current war zone to see how badly soldiers that don't believe in the cause (and are badly supplied with fake armor) will take every opportunity to escape the situation vs ones that are highly motivated and relatively well supplied.
Thank god the value of positive reinforcement is beginning to be recognized. Of course, you need to make sure that your recruits can ALSO handle battlefield pressures, so training should absolutely remain tough and stressful. But giving recruits a goal to strive for, rather than a whip to avoid being hit by, is absolutely going to be a boon for the military.
Getting shot at by machine guns during the Night Infiltration Course for 20 minutes did more for my "resilience" than the entire 3 weeks of Red Phase could've
Boomers and brovets just mad they can't pass down the verbal and physical abuse anymore because that means they'd have to be actually good at instructing and training
Every ex-military in my college classes said they regret their decision to join the military. They said the promises offered were never kept. They had to pay for school themselves after being used by our gov't. Four of them said this.
They aren’t lying.
God so loved the world that HE sent HIS only BEGOTTEN SON THAT WHOESOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE
JESUS GODS SON DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND PAID THE PRICE FOR THEM AS A SACRIFICE, IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS YOUR SINS GET FORGIVEN AND YOU GET SAVED FROM HELL AND GO TO HEAVEN
IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEATH YOU WILL BE SAVED,
READ KJV BIBLE, ITS THE WORD OF GOD!...
That's BS because you get education benefits after the first year if I remember correctly. Also, you get tuition assistance that pays for 4 classes per year. The only way to lose your GI bill is to get kicked out. So if they said this then that's a bold-faced lie!!
@@dirkhartman9572 Holy shit dude go somewhere else with this shit. You are not saving anyone in the comments section of an unrelated video. You should at the very least be doing this on religious themed videos where people would be open to hearing what you have to say.
You are wrong though. God is only love, and he never turns anyone away. Especially for something like choosing the wrong religion. If you had been born in the middle East you would have very little chance at ending up a Christian. Your religion is more based on where you were born than anything else.
@@daryl6900
I can count the number of vets I've met who got their dues.
I cannot count the number of vets I've met who did not get their dues.
And mf, I can count.
The reason I’m not joining the military isn’t because I would get yelled at. It is because I would be selling my life and would get very little in return. They’re focusing on the wrong thing.
"three drill sargent screaming in your face, one ordering you to get down, the other telling you to get up, while the third one ask you philosophical questions"
TBF - I'm not sure that toughens you up so much as it makes you think this is an organization led by lunatics.
A big part of why the military is having problems with recruiting is that now they dig through all your medical records when before they would take you at your word that you didn’t have any disqualifying medical issues
Literally bro its actually crazy how deep the look at your medical records for the smallest things
Makes more sense for a conscript military I imagine, since the military may have to face responsibility if a serviceman/women gets injured or killed in duty due to aggravated medical conditions e.g. some in my country have died of heart attack after running, & with conscription it is more difficult to avoid these health risks associated with military work. So the military will have to classify different enlistees to different duties of varying levels of intensity based on their health condition, to keep these health risks manageable
I’ve had 2 intestinal surgeries but the doctors said I would make a full recovery (and I think I mostly have besides cosmetic issues). Aside from that I’m currently on adderall but can’t I get a waiver saying I don’t need it and that I’ll be ok without it??
Really considering enlisting. Top pick is USMC for reference.
just lie. thats what i do.
@@TheShadowPerson. but they can see your medical records for the past 7 years now
Can confirm retention is a major issue. At my office there are three guys around my age (I'm 29) who left the navy. The reasons I've heard mostly revolves around stress and being away from family for to long. The bonus money the navy is throwing at folks to try and retain them is staggering.
currently in the navy and probably like half or more of my command can not wait to get out. Everything always seems to be up in the air when it comes to training and going underway. After my ship came back from deployment last year, we only had like a month in port for leave and then did several underway's(months long) soon after. And the politics are pretty shitty too, there are certain people that can do know wrong if they are high ranking enough. lots of shit gets swept under the rug, military cares alot about its perception to the public.
You haven't seen the investment banking bonuses bro.
God so loved the world that HE sent HIS only BEGOTTEN SON THAT WHOESOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE
JESUS GODS SON DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND PAID THE PRICE FOR THEM AS A SACRIFICE, IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS YOUR SINS GET FORGIVEN AND YOU GET SAVED FROM HELL AND GO TO HEAVEN
IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEATH YOU WILL BE SAVED,
READ KJV BIBLE, ITS THE WORD OF GOD!....
They made thousands of people get out over dumb crap..Oh you tinted the windows on your car..good bye..what a joke
I'd get out too with the current clown administration in office
I think a lot of organizations sometimes fail to understand that appealing to a wider audience can actual result in less commitment as you are watering down what you offer and thus competing with more organizations in a similar vein. That's not to say that an organization should never change, but context is important. I can't say for sure what the outcome of the military's policy changes will be but I hope the decision makers have paid due regard to the aforementioned possibility, and are willing to course correct and admit a mistake if the new strategy proves problematic.
Ultimately I think the military is making changes like these to avoid addressing the larger systemic issues that are hurting recruitment. Should the changes in the video prove necessary and successful, the military still has a plethora of serious problems to address to modernize and raise morale.
Weakening the biggest strengths of a nation, one Politician at a time.
I did my conscript in Sweden 15 years ago and one of my happiest memories. It was hard and officers were tough but they treated us with respect and did not yell at us just for yelling. Respect gives moral and moral is more important than be able to do 50 push ups on command or hitting bulls eye in every situation.
I strongly agree. Soldiers that were more afraid of their sergeants and lieutenants than the enemy may have worked for Frederick, but they don't work in a professional army. In a modern force, even the lowliest private may well find themselves called upon to improvise and adapt to accomplish a task they were not explicitly trained for -- and training soldiers to stand in neat lines and not react when shouted at is not an effective way to produce soldiers that can do that.
Parallels can be drawn to extant officer training (here in the US, at least). There is a very clearly hierarchy and command structure, but there is also a high degree of mutual respect and fairness - not shouting for the sake of shouting.
I'd put more money on U.S. training method being more effective compared to Sweden's. No offense, but when was the last time Sweden was a major combatant in a war?
@@supremecaffeine2633 When was the last time US soldiers beat Swedes in an exercise, hmm? The Swedes are second to none, and I for one am glad they’re on our side.
@@jamesharding3459 When was the last time sweden experience a full scale war? Experience is king in life.
@@supremecaffeine2633 The US hasn't fought a real war since 1991, and arguably not even then. Moot point.
I swear, 90% of the time, when he said the U.S. Army, a clip of U.S. Marines instantly played.
Civilians are pretty ignorant when it comes to the US military. I would tell some I was in the US Army they would say “that’s cool, but what branch though? Like the Marines?” Lol
@@GoldenGod69 or its difficult to get good photography related to the military that's readily available and is not behind a pay wall. Which often footage is.
I know I was looking for this comment. I just got medically discharged from Parris Island and those clips of the high knees on the quarter deck brought back flashbacks lmao
@@SkikyroStudios did you even graduate from boot camp? 😂
It's a little hard to care for a country when our very system is all about seeking what is best for you and only yourself.
If three sergeants scream at me I would cry from laughter, my mind is just like that
“Potentionaly offensive and weaponized”
Well yeah they have guns
As an Israeli who served in combats, AND, was a new recruits drill/platoon Sargent, I always thought those yelling at the first day are horrible.
Personally, I belive that leadership and commanding are gained not by fear, but by respect. I still remember the day those kids stepped down the bus for the first time. Not a single yell was heard from me or my class commanders.
Those kids were handled with respect, while staying distant and force them to obey the strict rules. Fast forward 3 months, and they had their basic training done, know how to handle guns, how to combat, and how to be humane soldiers.
Although we disconnected as I stayed for another round of new trainees, 20 years later, I'm still in touch with few of them.
Don't be asshols in the military.
Exactly, never served in the military, but was the Civil Air Patrol, which is similar to ROTC. I was a flight commander and made a point never to yell. I treat people how I want to be treated, and I wouldn't like someone screaming in my face, so I made a point to never do it to others, and as a result I was one of the favorite NCOs among the junior ranks.
Lets take literally anything else into account. Americans dont have nationalistic zealotry they used to, we havent fought a war worth fighting since WW2, there is less of a need for the US army, people are more educated then ever leading them to other professions, information spreads faster making peoples complaints and storys about war and the army, paint a worse picture, and people dont trust the army or the government.
US Army is in a recruiting crisis but still wont allow me to rejoin after being discharged for failing the PT run by 2 seconds. Funny
I had to let my son know that unless policy changed or he got off Adderall altogether, he would not get accepted unless there was a draft.
I really don’t think the biggest issue of recruitment is coming from physically or mentally unprepared individuals of a new generation meeting the difficulty of the military. For the people that say that- that’s exactly what basic training is for, to prepare an individual to meet the standards of what a soldier should be required. This is with the exception of obviously major disqualifiers like illnesses or problematic background history. They could adapt by making basic training last for a longer duration of time than a twelve week deadline or practice training with more intentional skills- changing the standards rather than lowering them.
I really think it comes down to the perception of the military itself in the newer generations and how it has been perceived as a tool of politics. It’s not incorrect, and candidates frankly don’t like the idea of being robbed of their autonomy when they have no interest in the political system they would be serving under. It’s less so of a metrics problem than an image and reputation problem.
This might sound a bit conspiratorial on my part, but I also blame the division of politics in the US for the inability to see the difference between nationalism and patriotism, and simply assuming them to be directly synonymous with a negative connotation. I see patriotism as a commitment to improving your nation to be a hospitable place for future inhabitants and impressionable spectators. I see nationalism as devotion to a country purely for the belief of civil service to return the favor of your privileges as a citizen. Beyond that to what’s relevant, when there is no unifying factor to achieve by people today, why would they risk their lives to defend what might drastically change tomorrow in a way they strongly disapprove of or how they may feel misrepresents them? I think it may be the uncertainty of a person’s individuality and representation as a soldier that causes so much hesitation. This is especially true with how much information of testimony that is available to prospective recruits from individuals already in service who will share that they had been disillusioned, deceived, and mistreated by what they were promised or expected for their commitment.
I’m very passionate about this because I’m concerned that this will damage the quality of the country’s soldiers. Many of the harsh practices aren’t cruel for the sake of being abusive, they’re for the sake of preparing an individual for the most stressful moments imaginable, and if the individual cannot handle it under simulated conditions, they are either unfit or must be more prepared if the time comes.
One of the biggest issues though, is the Army doesn't respect its troops. When you have soldiers peeing on themselves due to having no bathroom breaks at in-processing and vomiting water due to empty stomaches, make it difficult to get healthcare, don't treat them like adults until after AIT, and treat them as if they're a burden and you don't want them there, it's no wonder soldiers come out of it with less respect for authority and no leadership skills. Respect is a two way street and the Army forgot that. The Army can't get away with abusing soldiers and treating them like garbage anymore. The next generation has higher standards and know better than to join a branch that can't provide them with any kind of benefit.
I actually find the description of 'patriotism' that you use and the way you identify 'nationalism' a wrong to be the real problem with the military.
The military is inherently offensive to intellectuals and flabby, seditious bastards. They will not join to do a trade or to fight no matter how woke Defence gets.
On the other hand people like me always considered the military as a place we can serve our country and maybe even achieve something for ourselves.
The military cannot attract the 1st group and is forcibly pushing away the latter.
The vaccine mandate is a good example; the woke leadership knows that by far, most soldiers who resist it are conservative. So damn the merits either of the vax or those soldiers, they must go!
Let be honest here.
The navy and the airforce took most of the potential recruits with the top gun movies.
The army doesn't have as well of a marketing office as the navy and airforce so that could be the reason.
I mean hell the marines have better advertising then the army.
Throwing bullying out is not lowering standards
@@rikoea6530 😂 as messed up as that sounds, that happens all the time in reception. I swear not being able to eat, sleep, or use the bathroom for 3 days felt like we were being tortured.
Former Marine here & I can tell you one thing for damn sure that keeps people from re-enlisting is not letting service members go to any other training schools/courses that they may be interested in. Either because:
1.) Someone in your command doesn't like you & doesn't want you to get what you want.
2.) Incompetence & your request isn't passed along the way it should be or is lost.
These things happen all the time & trust me when re-enlistment time comes up & people reflect on not being satisfied with the job they currently have & aren't sure if they'll be able to do anything else they want to they tend just to leave.
Imagine all 3 drill Sargents yelling in your face with bad breath enough to strip off paint from the walls
You mean I have the chance to go out to the Middle East to fight a war for Israel, then lose a leg and come back to live like a street dog while more resources are poured into illegal aliens? Nah chief, I’ll sit this one out
I joined the Army back in 1990 and the Drill Sergeants yelled and screamed trying to get that one recruit to quit and I never felt belittle, shamed or got my feelings hurt, that is one of my great memories of the Army.
Good for you buddy!
What a great memory. You contributed to being nothing and bringing no value to homo-sapiens.
God so loved the world that HE sent HIS only BEGOTTEN SON THAT WHOESOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE
JESUS GODS SON DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND PAID THE PRICE FOR THEM AS A SACRIFICE, IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS YOUR SINS GET FORGIVEN AND YOU GET SAVED FROM HELL AND GO TO HEAVEN
IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEATH YOU WILL BE SAVED,
READ KJV BIBLE, ITS THE WORD OF GOD! . . .
There are very few people in this world you will never forget. Your drill sergeants are one of them. I am grateful for the ones I had, even if they did smoke the crap out of me.
@cShiftNews, you’re not lying about the Drill Instructors. It’s been nearly 30 years since Basic Training and I still remember all three: DI Sgt. Foose, Staff Sgt. Porter and Sgt. First Class Emerson. Hectic, but fond memories. Cheers
As an Israeli who serves in the IDF, I'm perplexed when I see videos of superiors yelling at the top of their lungs two inches from the face of a recruit. here we don't do that and I know for a fact you can make damn good soldiers without yelling at their faces. I don't think that we know better or anything, just that we do the exact opposite and it works great for us. I'm pretty sure the only time I was yelled at near my face was at the firing range because we had hearing protection. It's just that we believe you can have respect and authority while speaking calmly. If there's a problem there's a punishment but no one yells like that when they give it. in my opinion, a commander that speaks calmly and doesn't need to yell to get attention will have more respect. I'm absolutely sure all of these are changes for the better.
Exactly this. People learn and retain information faster and better when they aren't being yelled at. I think the team exercise shown in the video is an excellent first day replacement. You can be tough and demanding without having to yell.
You don't need to do that to your youth, because Palestinians have already done above and beyond that for you. When terrorists are at your doorstep, drill sergeants are unnecessary.
Big difference. IDF is mandatory. There is no reason to single anyone out if everyone has to serve. Plus Isreal relies on the US to protect them from the neighbors who literally hate their very existence. Having an ally who has soldiers who won't buckle under pressure is needed. A soldier is made by breaking down a civilian and rebuilding into something different.
Totally agree with you.
@@justinfowler2857 israel have many experience fighting in a war since their independence,and sometimes they fight alone without any support from their allies or anyone,so the word "relies" is an overstatement
I wanted to join and have a degree but didn’t try because of RUclips. You get to see what’s really happening while your recruiter lies to you like a car salesman 😂
They teach them how to kill the enemy in every possible way, but god forbid they shout out there recruits
Common reasons people leave of the vets I know are: shit pay for the work compared to industry. Toxic leadership (and 20+year Olds given authority over them going on absolute power trips) and administrative gatekeeping(no promotions cuz of slots, etc).
Recruiting is an issue as the generations become more socially active and aware of actual issues the bribed policymakers refuse to deal with, therein dooming the very generation they want enlisting.
The reason I separated was because of admin bullshit.
I married my wife while stationed in England, and the USAF was absolutely unwilling to do anything to speed up her green card so she would be able to come with me to my next assignment in the US. I wasn't about to leave her for an indeterminate number of years, especially just because some people couldn't get their paperwork together.
As an E-4 in the Army with 3 years in, I had $2k a month. In IT education, I made $1500 a month. 32 hrs a week, nice office, no manlets with a fancy patch going on a power trip, I couldn't randomly be forced to work overtime, come in early, or on the weekends. Weekends were GUARANTEED off, as well as every Federal holiday; no gate guard, Staff Duty, or any of that shit.
I'm on VA benefits going to school now getting paid almost $3k to be a teacher or cop (eventually SWAT) for about $75k a year; double what I was making in the Army
Civilian sector is just BETTER. Even jobs like Target and McDonald's offer tuition assistance to employees for a fraction of the stress and BS; not exactly a hard choice, unless you're desperate
@@SlavGod47 Damn, i should've went army
I don’t have any military background, but I don’t think “snowflakes” are the biggest problem. I’d honestly agree that my generation is softer, but even if we weren’t, who wants to enlist just to fight in a war that shouldn’t even concern the US, then be ruined both mentally and physically? I’ve seen the condition of grandparents and great uncles who fought in Vietnam, and parents who fought in Iraq and afganistan, I don’t want to end up like them, just to involve myself in a war that we shouldn’t be in anyway, and knowing we were most likely lied to by the government to join like Bush did. Maybe if China invaded South Korea, or Russia bombed Finland I’d volunteer, but I won’t lose my sanity and hearing to go remind poor people in some other gulf country why my healthcare is so expensive.
You can also point at sexual abuse cases, veteran suicide rates, and the thousands of horror stories veterans have as to why we wouldn’t want to join. We just put another 100 billion into the military budget this year, and already most of it is going into new weapons, a new destroyer, and capital for Ukraine, no programs that would ensure the safety of anyone actually working in the military.
honestly that softer was old before christ was born
You shouldn't have to go to war because a country invade another country.
Well, I mean if you have a defense pact with that country you should try to help them.
NOOOO! WE NEED TO FIGHT IN IRAQ! OIL IS EXPENSIVE!!!
please do not do ANY research on how iraq, vietnam, korea, and the other handful of proxy wars make lockheed billions and the US government enough money to buy a bunch of islands.
join the military! fight for sodomy rights and the ability to leech off welfare!
I got a 94 on the asvab in high school, but I chose to go into civilian life instead because:
1. Civilian jobs are easier
2. I can quit whenever I want
3. The military is too dangerous
4. My current job pays better than the average army sergeant
5. I don't trust the government (libs or cons)
I'm the only first-born son in my entire family's history that didn't join some sort of military branch.
I did try to join the peace corp at 19 but got denied, so I went to work in a factory, bought some machinery, and now I'm about a month from opening my own business
I served my country in the Canadian Army as a Sapper at the age of 19 back in 2012 (applied at 17 with my dad's consent; he was in the Canadian Grenadier Guards, infantry, during the October Crisis and supported it. Now at 32 this march and a huaband and father, I'm glad I did go in the Army. Most people when i was growing up didnt because they "didnt think it was their problem". I did it for a few reasons, one is for thanking all the veterans that served before me for my freedom and that i will carry on the torch; the best way to say thank you.
I did 22 years and I got out in 2020. And I'm glad I retired in 2020. it took me 15 years of an active duty career to realize that I didn't fight for the freedoms of Americans I fought for the expansion of the wallets of big corporations such as Raytheon General Dynamics, Dyna Corp and every other Corporation involved in the military industrial complex. Been to Iraq multiple times nowhere did I see American freedoms being put in Jeopardy over there in iraq. What I did see is American foreign policy creating our own enemies. I think one of the biggest detriments to recruitment is the fact that it's harder for recruiters and the government to lie to people about fighting for Freedom now that information is at the click of your hand. Now bring on the hate cuz I brought to light the Ugly Truth the American Military does not Safeguard freedom it expands the wallets of the military industrial complex sorry not sorry
Everyone knows that, they just don’t care.
Larping army man in your mom's backyard for 22 years isn't the same as serving. I bet you walk around with stolen valor too.
@TupacLiqueur86 If you already gave a large chunk of your life to something you might as well stay in just a few more years to get the retirement money.
Eisenhower warned of this
TRUTH. This should be one of the top comments.
It's not intimidation and fear, it's mimicking a stressful environment one may encounter during wartime. The more you are used to sensory overload and know to trust your training during such events, you're more likely to act on impulse from said training in the real world. It creates muscle memory, and the shark attack and other stressful events create better soldiers. This all comes down to attention to detail, it's all keys to training better.
my only rebuttal is 1/10 of the army is infantry. the vast majority of troops will only hand out supplies, cook, work on aircraft & vehicles etc
Ok, boomer
ah yes, thats exactly why america hasn't won a war since world war two lmao because of their "impressive" training
@@rocketman3285you clearly know nothing about war we crushed the afghan military within a week of being there all that was left were the ones who ran and hid and civilians fighting us
Less than 10% of service members ever see combat since the inception of the divided states. So what exactly are you talking about?
As a Naval veteran, I garuntee that I feel like others in my generation do. The military got exactly what they deserved. 85% of the guys I knew got washed out in our 1st enlistment for several reasons. Most, because of the fact that the Navy had a "surplus" of sailors in 2006 and didn't need us at the time.
I know of WAY too many people who have either been screwed over by the military, or they have have had friends or family members who have been screwed over. I don't recommend it.
I would recommend it if it was about fighting off a genuine homeland invasion.
The military and government has said, that if college tuition is free, They would face a major recruiting crisis too. Basically saying if there's no more poor people there won't be anyone to be in the military.
The "SNOWFLAKES" poster series also makes it abundantly clear how poorly the people in charge understand the people they're trying to recruit. They're not trying to recruit the young people who actually exist, they're trying to recruit Tucker Carlson's nonexistent strawman version of young people.
It's literally "how you do, fellow kids?" Memes
@@MajkiBoyVids Oh right. They keep doing that, don't they? The Torries too.
the problem is the "Tucker Carlson's nonexistent strawman version of young people" actually do exist
@@masonhidari I mean EVERY strawman has an element of truth to it to be sure. But it's still an overly simplified and cartoonishly exaggerated version of the truth, if not outright bullshit.
@@metalgear6531 i agree , but this road goes both ways . we gotta be better
I would love to be able to do something with my life and join the Air Force, but they don't want me
I dont even think the yelling is too aggressive, we live in an age where most people look up whats going to happen to them before they actually go somewhere so its just a lot less stressful when you know exactly what to expect and why to expect it. it just would make it really hard not to laugh knowing they are purposely trying to break me.
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the video was also bullshit. yes people are maybe fatter ,shark attacks are a bit harsh but that isnt the reason why people arent willing to join. the us government treats the very same people who offered their lives to them like absolute worthless trash, many veterans are homeless , soldiers are left to die for some Bullshit politics sheananigans and are largely an occupation force that was also turned more and more against US citizens.
SOG proved its not a scam. Please stop posting comments like this. It is hurting your reputation and is going to ruin your image.
@@MessinVR his video literally proved that they are scamming people. And as a result has stopped working with them entirely
@@kinfongyeung5400 Nah the guy who made false accusations had no basis for their claims and SOG proved that but you are stuck in your ways. Have a good day.
The recruitment ad with two moms gives a clear picture on what the US Army prioritizes.
In a weak armed force.
It is an attempt to appeal to the masses and the values of the newer generations
Yeah sure. 🙄 Appealing to one group is causing retention to be low. Not the awful leadership or how junior enlisted are treated. And you know, if you get stationed at Fort Hood as a person of color, you are probably going to get killed by people you are serving with.
@Brap Lord Sounds pretty incel to me
@Brap Lord it’s probably for the best you quit. You don’t sound Iike you have the commitment of past soldiers like the Nisei Go For Broke soldiers or Harlem Hellfighters all who fought and died for a country that hated them, because they believed in the dream of what it could be. They volunteered to fight for a country that hated them but did the job anyways. Look up Pvt Leroy Johnston, the US Colored Troops Regiment, Montford Point Marines, SSG Issac Woodard and similar. Thanks for getting out.
There are still young people with the right mindset for the military. The right mindset is people who WANT to be challenged. The problem is the military is alienating them to coddle people that are a bad fit, and unlikely to join anyway. It seems like a highly workable strategy
0:36 First day of Training and you're already confused 😂
Calling them me me millenials and wondering why no one wants to serve is the most hilarious thing I've heard today.
I'm active duty USAF (aircraft maintenance) and I'm fairly familiar with the manning crisis, having been directly affected by it. This last promotion cycle it was communicated that the promotion selection rate for E-5 and E-6, which are the first two NCO ranks and thus non-automatic promotion ranks, would be severely diminished. The reason is that with so many fewer new Airmen coming in, higher promotion rates end up causing an imbalance in the numbers of junior enlisted vs NCO ranks. Unfortunately this change is likely to exacerbate the retention issue, which from my experience tends to affect the ranks of E-5 and below the most. However, the inability to make rank is not what I believe to be the primary barrier to retention, rather for my career field and others like it the major complaints are that personnel are not treated with dignity, the jobs give little fulfillment, and working conditions are generally over-demanding compared to other career fields, or to civilian life.
For anyone reading this who may be considering enlisting, I do not regret my time in service. I'm mere months from separating and dread the thought of reenlisting, but I recognize that I have gotten quite a lot out of my time. The military can offer you some of the most memorable experiences of your life, build your character, and provide you with excellent benefits beyond what you might already know. Even if you only plan on doing one contract length of service, you can get quite a lot out of it if you have the right mindset.
Very true the board defines your future preparing for it is not a easy task unless you have great memory
The problem is that it’s a gamble when signing up
I am 73 and have been self employed all my life. I was in the Vietnam draft in NZ, ignored the call up letters even when they were printed in red threatening imprisonment if I did not show up, I finally did with the other tardy lads. I was tall, fit strong and bright and the recruiters were rubbing their hands with glee. Then I took out my contact lens, I was a very early contact user owing to keratokonus, that was the end of my military career. The only time I have ever been thankful for my eyesight. F**k the military.
Make sure you max out VA ratings before you get out.
Speaking as a Navy aircraft maintainer, we're going through many of the same issues. As I said elsewhere, you'd have to be insane to stay in the military when defense contractors will pay significantly more and provide a better quality of life. All that said, joining the Navy was one of the best decisions I've ever made; but reenlisting was one of the worst.
The thing is people who actually know how to develop healthy discipline really have no business being in the military
You can’t pay someone just 30,000 a year to be yelled at like that
As someone who got out not too long ago.
1) do something about toxic leadership
2) fix the barracks. (Why is there mold?)
3) fix the dfac. (Properly feed or just give them their money to buy some)
4) train them to actually do their job
5)Stop the lowering of standards
I could go on but you get the point
The Vietnam draft was actually a big reason for the creation of the shark attack because the war and draft were so unpopular the military created the shark attack to prevent conscripts from mutinying.
Until they got to Vietnam where fragging was the revenge. Mind you, agent orange leveled all ranks years later.
Sure didn't work. US Army thought something like 10 percent of their officer deaths in Vietnam were fratricide
@@uruguayny it was more so to prevent large scale mutinies like your kinda seeing in Russia rn. But it’s effectiveness can be argued.
@@uruguayny not really arguing that it did a good or bad job just highlighting what it was meant to do.
@@wwobbles definitely did a bad job lmfao. I dont understand what they were thinking, like it was going to inflict fear into them not resisting the government or something.
The leadership of the branches of the military are getting the service members that they deserve
So young people basically found out that they don't want to join because the military just sucks I mean I will never join the military either.