Steam Deck is an incredible venture. I was honestly shocked to see Ubisoft update The Division 2 so that anticheat would work on Deck. I hope the Deck success translates to SteamOS success when they release it for general PCs
Im so torn because I hate Ubisoft and I commend them for doing that but I feel like if ppl don't buy it to play it on the deck (for reasons similar to mine) other devs will look at it as a reason not to make their game work
@@misteryolo7248 Yeah it's been nearing fast for 1400 years and still nothing. Muhammad, pointing at a young boy said, the day of judgement will arrive before this young boy became old. That boy died 1400 years ago. Still nothing Maybe because Islam is a false religion from the devil. Stop following a false religion and start following the true messiah Jesus Christ ✝️
For me the favourite analysis you conducted was the sweet spot of performance which is 11/12w to which thereafter you get diminishing returns for performance compared the power used, you can even hear the fans spinning using any more power than than this. I genuinely have a pretty silent and cool deck with decent battery due locking it here, Thanks Phawx for all the analysis you do, we appreciate it 🙌
My biggest thing with the Steam Deck are still price, build quality, and support. I keep seeing people say "well well this is newer and more powerful blah blah," yeah, it's going to be like that every single damn year, but it also misses the point of why a HUGE number of people get these games. They don't want to spend Nvidia GPU prices on a nice little portable device and they are more than happy to compromise power for affordability once it's at a very comfortable place, which imo is what the Steam Deck is at. They don't need to run Crysis 4 at 1440p 120 FPS on a handheld, lmao. That's literally why the Switch is so explosively popular, and all the expensive rtaaaaawr more power devices are missing that at their ridiculous 1k+ price points. And none of them come anywhere near the support Steam Deck enjoys, and I know that well having long been in the retro and mini pc handheld scene. The SD isn't perfect, of course, but now that Valve knows it's a valid path, I'm positive SD 2 is going to really be a banger with many more options. If you have money to spend and are 100% dead set on playing chunky AAA games at high fidelty and FPS on the go instead on a proper console or PC for a better immersive experience, then go ahead and buy a new Aya neo every year. For everyone else just trying to emulate golden oldies, play indies, and juice less demanding stuff or stuff like remasters/remakes (Suikoden 1/2 is coming and Persona 3/4/5 are a dream on the Deck!), the value for what you get is nuts on the Steam Deck.
It works even with AAA titles like Resident Evil Village and even the pretty demanding game Blue Reflection Second Light is playable with 40 heartz and 40 FPS (even with the native resolution)
I've been mostly playing capcom games and RE engine especially is very compatible with Steam deck. MH Rise Sunbreak I can run it with 6W TDP of Cpu and 500MHz GPU with 40Fps cap, RE 7 and Village runs exceptionally well at 60 FPS, which I still cap at 40 anyway. And DMC V has been running like a dream at full fat 60 fps. I'm looking forward to the next big MonHun game next year and I'm confident it will run decently on deck with RE engine is almost guaranteed running that game.
I'm kind of hoping Valve decides to follow a more traditional console-cycle with the Steam Deck. So long as it can still maintain decent frames in contemporary games then we're good. I'd like them to focus mainly on increasing Steam OS support so the next generation can ship already able to play big games like Destiny 2
I’m pretty sure that Destiny 2 is theoretically runnable in this iteration of the Deck already. There is gameplay footage on RUclips. But it’s not runnable out-of-box and not natively supported by the system at all. That is mostly an engine limitation than a Deck one, and maybe they will update the game so it becomes compatible, though I doubt that greatly.
@@joaoazevedo3939 There is no limitation other than the game developer. They are afraid of cheaters and what it might mean if they allow Linux... they don't see any benefit in profits to even research the topic, so instead the just do a blanket ban and tell people to get lost. Steam can't do anything to get past a game developer actively blocking the game from working.
@@joaoazevedo3939 the only reason it is not compatible is because of anti-cheat. Bungee just needed to update their anti-cheat to be compatible with the Steam Deck, but they chose not to.
@@kotta8kritter frustrating that too many devs are not doing the bare minimum to allow us to play. Like Smite plays fine on practice mode but start an online match with others and instant crash because of easyanticheat.
While I do agree based on what we have available now a performance upgraded version isn't needed, it may have to come sooner than later simply due to the Steam Deck not living in a vacuum and companies like GDM and Ayaneo continually pushing new hardware on a typical PC release schedule and having faster and faster hardware, still atm I don't see the upgrade worth it since while the 6800U is most definitely faster it doesn't really pull a significant amount ahead till it gets to that higher tdp range that's not really ideal for a battery powered handheld, but that may change with the new 7000 series mobile APU's with RDNA 3
I think besides for the steam deck, PC gaming is getting more mainstream bc PC ports are better made these days. My decision to get a game on my PS5 vs PC (if it's available on both) is no longer a compatibility question but just a preference on where I want to play it or cost. But It used to be that often PC ports were made as afterthoughts or that games were made more often with only console or PC in mind. But these days developers are actually trying to make PC versions as smooth as console ones and adapting the UIs to the versions instead of solely built for one or the other. It's symbiotic, the Steam Deck makes PC gaming more user friendly but it's also bc PC gaming has become more user friendly that the Steam Deck can even exist.
I missed the email from Steam back in March 2022 to complete my purchase. I decided to wait until they became more available and purchased my Deck at the end of November. I purposely ignored any videos etc during 2022 so when I actually had one most things were a new discovery for me. The Steam Deck is not perfect but for me it is close. I am amazed at just how great this thing is. There is one thing that no one talks about and it is that it does not come with Microsuck Windows installed. It is amazing how the engineers at Valve have gotten so many Windows games running on Linux. In spite of the game devs that only make games for WIndows the Valve engineers for the past 10 years have succeeded at in my opinion made Windows irrelevant. The Stem Deck along with Steam OS 3 that is a customized version of Arch Linux is showing the world that Linux is now a viable alternative to Windows. If you honestly look at Windows you discover that it is the worse malware/Spyware that has ever been created. Since getting my Deck it has shown me that most of my hundreds of games now run great on Linux. It has empowered me to finally to ditch Windows. I now have installed Grauda Linux on all of my PC's. The fact that Steam OS is Linux should be pointed out in any discussion about the Steam Deck. As more and more Decks get out in the wild I predict that it will become a major influence on game development. The biggest thing that could happen is to influence the use of Vulcan instead of Direct X. There is only two things that use Direct X the XBox and Windows PC's both are products of Microsuck. The rest of the world, mobile gaming, MacOS, LinuxOS and Sony's Playstation use Open GL or Vulcan.
Yeah, that would all be nice, but everyone wants to talk about installing Windows and their Stockholm Syndrome... oh well, I'll stick with Linux, no MS for me. Oh and Apple does stupid stuff like MS... macOS does NOT support Vulkan, and its support for OpenGL is old, deprecated, and very problematic. They only actively support their own proprietary Metal API. Best to stick to Linux.
Hey, just wanted to know if you have heard of the Handheld Companion for Windows on Steam Deck? It appears to give some polish to the controller setup as well as offer some neat overlays you can custom map yourself. Sorry if you've covered this in a previous video, just thought you'd be interested to know to try out. Thanks!
Hi! My house runs on truck batteries with solar power and I'm very happy that the steam deck exists, 30 - 40 watts consumption with GTA 5 is a hell of a difference to 100 - 150 watts from the gaming laptop. Without the steam deck it would not be possible for me to play in winter because of the low solar radiation.
@@dat1ytcomment262 Hi! I installed about 4000 watts of solar panels on our carport. there are 3 strings with different numbers in parallel on three different charge controllers. 2 each in series, so that I get a 24 volt system. The carport isn't particularly high, and there are houses next to it, so the full sun doesn't hit the panels until around noon, and between 4 and 6 in the evening it's over again. I have a video on my channel where I show the system (unfortunately German is spoken there, sorry) It is the fourth newest video on the channel called "Solar System - Der Aufstieg zur Mittelklasse" watch?v=LGS-A48swjo the video still lacks new installed solar cells, a few batteries and a charge controller, its a bit older.
I'm still waiting for some sort of refresh. The specs are fine but I'd love something a little more refined with better ergonomics, better battery life and an OLED screen.
If Valve keeps this pace up with the current Deck I will absolutely hands down buy the next iteration whenever it comes out. That said I hope they give it more time to be out in the wild because I think they can get a few years easily out of the current hardware.
I love my Steam Deck. Played a lot of my older Console Games on it as well as some higher PC Stuff. And i am amazed how there are still new high end PC Games coming out that run totally fine on the Steam Deck
Really hope we don't get a major hardware change until 2026 at the earliest. 4 years is fair. At the least, hopefully we can order a replacement motherboard when the new hardware revision arrives.
Yeah I hope the form factor is close enough that we can buy a replacement mobo and apu to swap out and even an oled screen replacement would be awesome.
I agree, I've had steam deck from launch and it's been AMAZING. I was looking at the Ayaneo 2 but the issues I've been seeing makes me steer clear. The steam deck is quite honestly, the best gaming experience I've ever had. Even with newer games. Even playing at 1080p on an external display. The only thing I would like is a better screen (OLED perhaps)...but beyond that it does it all. What I would LOVE to see in a future revision tho is 2 ports so it can easily be displayed and charged and eGPU support to use in the living room at 4k. I think it would be amazing if they actually released their own eGPU box for use with the deck. I would be on board!
The one thing I want for the Steam Deck is a Sharpening filter. So I can use that with a game's built-in internal resolution scale instead of lowering the entire game's resolution and using FSR.
I dont really see the Steamdeck needing a new APU, but i do see the value of a Steamdeck Pro with possibly another semi-custom Zen4+RDNA3 based APU with 6 cores+12-16CU and 35wTDP and a 60Wh battery, maybe an OLED screen, the SOC could be used in a mini-desktop variant similarly priced to the SteamDeck, but lacking the screen/battery or controller, but extra features like a full sized M.2 and ethernet port
Disclaimer: I'm going to focus on the 64GB model because it is the lowest price point and it's easier to sell someone on spending $400USD over $650USD. The only thing I would call for a hardware revision over is storage, for three reasons: 1) Amount. 64GBs is pitiful for modern gaming. Sure, there's micro SD cards, sure it works, but that's not a perfect solution long term for reasons I'll touch on further down on the next point. I would say the minimum amount of storage a Steam Deck revision should have is 256GB for the entry level, then 512GBs for the mid tier model, and then 1TB for the top tier. 2) Speed. While fine for now, eMMC storage is going to be a major problem going forward if, or more like when, Direct Storage becomes a thing. Upgrading to a Zen 3 or Zen 4 APU would allow Valve to utilize PCIe Gen 4 drives more fully. 3) A bigger form factor drive. While I would prefer a 2280 slot (imagine an 8TB Steam Deck, lol), had Valve gone with at least gone with a 2242 slot finding 2TB drives would've far easier and cheaper. I've found 2242 2TB drives for around $150 bucks on _Newegg._ Which would've been a major weight off my shoulders. I'm not the biggest fan of buying computer hardware on Ebay or Aliexpress, but I do it when I have to. I mean, if you're going to upgrade the battery anyway, might as well change the Deck's chassis a bit to fit a bigger drive, right? Otherwise, the Steam Deck is fine. The only other substantive issue with the Steam Deck is software related and that can be fixed through software updates. Battery life is problematic sure, but I kind of expect that with X86 handhelds.
Just picked mine up the other day. I do think the hardware will need to be improved by the time the next generation becomes available, but performance is fine for now. It doesn't need Ray tracing or anything like that, but recent AAA games are already hard enough to get a consistent 40 fps.
instead of an upgrade in designing a new apu, they could start producing a 6nm refresh as its a half node away from 7 and can use the same designs. sony has already done this with the ps5 but it can be more meaningful with the deck.
It's quite easy to miss, but the eyes do seem to drop frames and float around a little bit. Personally I prefer it when people can look around in videos since it seems more natural. It is impressive technology though.
@@ThePhawx Oh my god. Once I have read that comment and paid attention, that looks so artificial and floaty. Really, there is no need to stare into the camera all the time with eyes which are being detached from your face. Look all the way you want using your real intelligence. No AI needed.
I was looking if someone asked you already. +1 at loses a lot of expressiveness, few minutes in it felt kinda robot-y. if you know what i mean. Great content keep it up!
It's been my primary PC gaming machine ever since I got it and have little to no regrets. The GPD Win 4 is obviously diverting my attention with its (personally) superior form factor and physical keyboard. But as good as that is, I don't think it can replace the support Valve provides for the Deck/Steam OS. That's the main attraction to me overall. The main caveat to me at the moment is running games that aren't on Steam or older than 2010 (e.g. NFSMW 2005). But other than that, I have nothing I can really complain about so far. It runs most fighting games at a solid 60fps, and I can tweak it as much as I want. I think the only real improvements they can make for the next one outside of general hardware improvements is I/O. I'd like a USB-A port on there somewhere, and an extra USB-C port on the bottom since I think it's more comfortable for playing while charging. Also I didn't even realise the sub count's reached 70K, holy shit you've come a long way now lmao
U can play games that aint on steam tho, ive seen people have sucess running on nfs mw steam/lutris, i ran it on wine an was fine for the most part. dodi repacks black edition works well on linux, while other versions might suffer from their own iconsistent issues, and thats were wine,proton still fall down a bit while in some other cases you might end up lucky to run better than on windows.
@@asunavk69 Nah I got it working in the end, the process is just more difficult than I want it to be and probably more than it could be. But yeah it's not impossible or anything, just a hassle
As much as I like Linux, I think gaming on a Windows machine with regular big picture mode for Steam or something like Playnite, RetroBat or Launchbox is also a good experience without the need to worry about compatibility. As an other point which speaks for Windows is the community support. All those nice tools, including the cpu/gpu auto tuning bat Phawx has covered in his channel are Windows exclusive. SteamDeck is nice and all, but to me, a faster Handheld with Windows and community tools is the better option for gaming. What Valve is doing for Linux gaming is amazing and I hope they will continue doing so :)
@@mystechry I disagree with you on this point. Windows is a primarily desktop operating system. It is closed source and you need Microsoft to fine tune it to a handheld device. I highly doubt that Microsoft would put any Dollar in fine tuning there system that it would work with a handheld factor. Linux on the other hand is a open system, that can be modified to work as intended on designed hardware. That is what Valve did with the Steam Deck. The Steam OS is setup to work perfectly with the given controller, screen size, resolution and even menu support. Something that would not be possible on Windows without the direct support from Microsoft.
@@Cyanwasserstoff I do not like Windows, because of its closed source nature. However I have a Win Max 2 and there are many more tools available for Windows than for Linux. I am very surprised by how much can be done in Windows. I dual boot btw, because I prefer Linux for everything else except gaming. Of course, the Steam Dech is a different story, as its OS was specifically made for the hardware.
Definitely debating getting one of these and rehoming my switch lite. The switch is nice and all but it doesn’t have all the games I want on it (Games I already own in steam). I know a handful of games are exclusive to Nintendo but considering the bigger library on steam this may be a better option for me. Not only that but I can literally play on my pc and sync it to play on the go… I can’t do that with the switch. Saves can only stay on one device unless you cloud store (which costs money).
I have to say that I still can't order a steamdeck in my country....the buttons are just greyed out so it requires a lot of extra hoops to jump through in order to get one, and then support might be shoddy if there's anything wrong with it. So at this point, I will no longer consider getting a steamdeck until a next generation. It's been too long by now, and there is no information of when it might become available here in Norway.
I am very happy without raytracing. In that Minecraft showcase for example, I prefer the traditional brighter ambient light over the super dark ray tracing. I'd take the plus in battery life and resolution any time, even if raytracing was viable.
Still not available in Australasia, other than via scalpers. I'm not concerned as I have a Win max 2 with 32g ram, which still cost LESS than it would have been to get even the 128gb steam deck via scalpers.... Man Valve taking their time!
hey phaux, i have a deck stick clicking on 360 turns and lookign it up it seems like the red capacitive wire is stuck in a bad position inside it. Is the capacitive wire really important for functionality like avoiding drift and such or can i just leave it as is? I dont want to open the deck just to re reoute the wire as reddit suggests and rma is not an option where i live. thanks!
Valve isn’t updating the steam deck any earlier than 2025. They won’t update a console they’re making in less than 3 solid years. At the least. And I bet it’s a small update.
Back in 2022 they said they were going to skip a generation of amd apu's so a 6000 series one isn't happening but the next gen apu's probably will in 2024
@@ADreamingTraveler I don’t see Valve selling most likely 2-3 million steam decks by 2024 and then after 2 years upgrading it. Not seeing it. Not a smart business move. They might release an oled version or even one with a bigger internal SSD or better battery. But nothing will be done to the processors that fast.
From my experience during last 2 weeks, the MAIN problem for this machine is that most of its games are made for monitor, and some multi-plat games like those from SONY are made for big TVs, so all these games have really tiny fonts and UIs, so even if you can run these games with low settings plus some FSR trick, the game is such a pain to my eyes. Valve said that the games which get a pass is very good to play on the deck in all aspects(fonts, graphic, control...), but I've tried my lib, my answer is not really. Games such as witcher3, monster hunter world, and many many more all have really small fonts, yes you can read them, but if you play game for over an hour or two, it is not very good to have these small fonts. The same problem actually happens on the switch, the switch also has a lot of games with small texts, these game are all good on the docked mode, but not optimized for handheld mode. And I have a question for quite a long time, why do the game companies made their games with small texts? Or at least give me an option to set texts to large, or super large, I myself really need that option in every game!!
What about battery life? Can I game all day like I do on my consoles and PC? Will the Steam Deck charge while I’m playing a game on it or will it still drain battery?
Steam Deck is by far my favorite "console" besides that Halo 3 Special Edition Xbox 360 that I've ever owned. Compatibility with titles has been steadily improving, system stability has been solid, and the control flexibility is unmatched. If there was a way to get an OLED display and anti-cheat support in key AAA titles that would make it literally unbeatable for the price.
Im buying this week with 1tb dualboot liteon ssd Both for $550 Totally agreed it's a a capable 800p40 machine Won't need another super APU on deck till 2025 for me,unless rdna3/rdna4 igpu performance is around rx570 in 15w & close to 6600 with 25-35w tdp
I totally agree with your point of view that making a new Deck model with upgraded hadware is pointless right now, even worse I think it would actually hurt Valve in the long run. I'm so fed up with all those tubers and their 6800u handhelds review, cranking up everything that can be with the device plugged in to make pretty videos and never mentioning they'd get 1hr of battery if they'd remove the cord and then gret praised in the comment section by the same kind of people who crap on the Deck's battery life... I hope AMD will keep improving very low power performances in the future though because as far as I understood it, their upcoming gen of laptops hardware seems to go the opposite way and that would suck if 2 years from now they still have nothing better to show for at 15-20W tops because until we have widespread new battery tech, it's nonsensical to me to go higher in a handheld even if we're able to cool it. Speaking of which the new cooling tech shown at CES is something I'd love to see in the future Deck.
Thank you so much. I just watched a steam deck “review” where they boasted about being able to attach an RTX 4070 to it. This video was straightforward and informative, exactly what I want out of a video
Hey Phawx I recently got a steam deck and first thing I noticed after setting it up is that on the steam ui and desktop mode when I use my left trigger it feels like it’s very faint with the haptic feedback compared to my right trigger which is way more noticeable in vibration, does yours do that? I also tried tweaking the vibration in the settings but no dice. Thanks if you get to answer this just because I’m debating whether this is RMA worthy or not.
Is it worth it to get a 6800U handheld over the Steamdeck? Like I know it performs better but is it worth the 2x price tag? I wanna play RPCS3 and Xenia games as well.
I useually want the most bang for my buck, and decided to get a handheld 2 weeks ago, i still went with the steam deck instead of the competition, because i know itll keep getting updates, the controls seem superior to me, with the extra back buttons and clickable pads, and ill propably just do moon light on heavier to run games anyway.
After a year, the STORE still hasn't changed, & it's absolutely atrocious on the Deck. Any idea why they haven't done anything to improve it outright since launch? Could all the gleaming reviews leaving out the store part altogether contribute to Steam not knowing how badly the Store functions on the Deck since launch? It seems like a glaring problem, but for some reason updates focus on other things & nobody even mentions the Store, know what I mean? 🤷♂️
My Deck literally just arrived today. I instantly installed a 1tb ssd, I managed to get steam os back and partition the ssd, but the windows bootable USB I did at an internet cafe didn't work... They only had win 7 still... So, now all I have done is installed emudeck, a couple a snes games and I'm waiting for Halo infinite and GTA 5 to download while I think about how I'm gonna get windows. I think I might use the sd card method, I can still save windows games on the partition and boot windows from an SD card right?
I have steam deck with around 600 games. It's good, but now is way overhyped (imo). I'd say it's perfect for you if portable gaming is your main way to game and you already have a big pc game library. If not, get a switch (I have both). Imagine if Nintendo was like "buy a switch'... but beware the controllers won't be configured for most of your games...lol. Also do we now all think watching the super bowl on a tiny screen is way better than on a big screen? Nope. I do like and use my deck daily, but people are getting carried away. For me it is perfect for roguelikes, hack and slash, pixel games.
Probably 0 new Linux users. If you count Android as Linux (uses Linux kernel) and all those other devices like your router or car, there is a high chance, all those SteamDeck buyers were already Linux users before and simply did not know ;)
I got the Steam Deck fairly early but ended up selling it, it wasn't for me. That said, it is great that Valve is supporting this so hard. The Steam Deck definitely pushed other handheld companies to up their games and bring more users to the space. Valve advanced handheld PC gaming like nobody else could.
I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Pretty sure they won't make another model for a year or two more and that's when they want to focus on battery life and screen
@@mystechry price and implementation, ergonomically a lot better than it looks, Steam OS really bridging that gap between console and PC. Valve have outdone themselves.
@@timsarai RetroBat and BigPicture mode is enough console experience for me. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Steam Controller. For someone, who migrated almost exclusively to GOG, being tied to the Steam eco system is not the best choice ;)
@@timsarai I value the DRM free games. I always use an other frontend if I want to. GOG Galaxy gets worse when you have many games installed, as it takes a while to boot. I really want to own my games and be able to make a backup for later. Steam is quite reliable, but better be save than sorry. I had the situation once, where I was offline and Steam for some reason decided to require a sign. Offline mode was not available. For GOG games there is always a fallback to the exe itself. I really do not hat Steam. I like a lot what they do. It's just that I am very much against DRM.
Hey Man, you using Nvidia new eye tracking tech? Your eyes seem… off? Or am I just going crazy! Edit: you are!! Saw your previous replies! That tech is nuts!
I got mine in march and barely used it. I can't help but find the Steam Deck weird. I look at it and I find it's a great piece of hardware, I want to install everything in it and use it all the time, but as a PC gamer first, aka a mouse & keyboard FPS guy, I'm already making an effort to play it with the controller, but for the life of my I just can't agree with the button layout. The sticks, the pads, they're in the wrong place. Even if I fire up some emulation, it doesn't feel right. I'm sincerely hoping the ergonomics of the GPD WIN 4 fix this for me. But with all that negative, I still love it. I've put mine up for sale, could really use the money I would get back, but I'm constantly debating if I should just keep it, install Windows 11 in it, and use it more like a PC. It's a great machine, just with a few flaws that I have to admit, I may just be noticing because there's starting to be some serious competition out there fixing 'em.
The small minority of people who want a hardware bump are exactly the sort of mentality that keeps PC gaming constrained and unappealing. Consoles generally see the most performance squeezed from the hardware through a long life cycle, while the really OCD PC types just update various modules. Some people don’t have time or money for that, especially when dealing with something like the Deck. Is the Nintendo could get what they got out of the Switch, there’s plenty of years ahead for the Deck, especially with a company like Valve helming this project.
I hope they don't, IMO the size is the best part of the Steam Deck, it's made for adult hands and not children's hands like the Switch which my hands cramp up after about 15 mins of play using, I'd much rather great ergonomics over smaller for the sake of being smaller with terrible ergonomics like most handhelds do.
@@sandrahiltz That's not my point. It's too big for portability. Carrying it is a chore because it takes up most of the space it my bag and it's heavy. Also the D-Pad sucks. You charge a premium for a gaming device only to ruin the most basic parts of it. Any Handheld that messes up a D-Pad is not a good Handheld to me.
@@Pridetoons then get one of the plethora of handheld PCs that sacrificed usability for being small, not every handheld needs to be small a awful to use ones, and I have no issues carrying mine around everywhere, meanwhile my switch sits in it's dock at home cause it's smaller size means it's awful to use handheld. Really Valve should be praised for doing engineering correctly and making a handheld with proper economics, and not the Apple way of form over function at any cost
I can. My brother is a normal Windows 10 user on PC and a Switch Gamer, but he even really fell in love with the Steam Deck. He plays games like Resident Evil 2, 3 (Remakes), Hyperdimension Neptunia Rebirth 2
I don't get where all these cries for a "Steam Deck 2" are coming from. Do these people even understand what they're talking about? The biggest issue with the Deck has never been performance, but battery life. Making the Deck faster only makes the battery life even worse. Valve has also gone on record saying that there wouldn't be any performance upgrades to the hardware for a long time, only minor tweaks. If you ask me, we're not going to see any upgrades until the Deck is at least 4 years old - and that's me being optimistic. If anything, we're likely going to see upgrades to power efficiency to deal with battery life (not raw processing speed) as this is the Deck's biggest flaw right now.
I agree on every point. That's why i just laugh my ass off of anyone asking for hardware update or even steamdeck2. This is not chinese bootleg GDP or ayaneo people where they release new models every 2 months.
Steam Deck is an incredible venture. I was honestly shocked to see Ubisoft update The Division 2 so that anticheat would work on Deck. I hope the Deck success translates to SteamOS success when they release it for general PCs
Im so torn because I hate Ubisoft and I commend them for doing that but I feel like if ppl don't buy it to play it on the deck (for reasons similar to mine) other devs will look at it as a reason not to make their game work
@@Kevin-du5vf what reasons?
How does this compare to the smack z?
@@jamestamz lol
@@jamestamz SmachZ had better trackpads
Can't believe it's been a year already. Time moves fast.
Damn..freaking fast!
Wait hes had it since january of last year??? Sheeeesh
Ig time moved fast because most of us didnt get it until like march+
Time moving fast is a sign for the day of judgment being near in Islam.
@@misteryolo7248 Yeah it's been nearing fast for 1400 years and still nothing. Muhammad, pointing at a young boy said, the day of judgement will arrive before this young boy became old. That boy died 1400 years ago. Still nothing
Maybe because Islam is a false religion from the devil.
Stop following a false religion and start following the true messiah Jesus Christ ✝️
@@misteryolo7248 yup
Hell yeah my guy, you make the best steam deck / portable gaming content
Thanks so much!
@@ThePhawx trueee🔥
Happy Anniversary Phawx! It's been a crazy first year but it's only just the beginning!
For me the favourite analysis you conducted was the sweet spot of performance which is 11/12w to which thereafter you get diminishing returns for performance compared the power used, you can even hear the fans spinning using any more power than than this. I genuinely have a pretty silent and cool deck with decent battery due locking it here, Thanks Phawx for all the analysis you do, we appreciate it 🙌
I hardly have the time to use it but no regrets getting it. It's such a neat thing to have. Can't wait to see how they do a follow up
Ngl I really want one just so I can play my steam library after a day of work where my legs and back don't want to sit up at my desk
@@OnlyGrafting I'd recommend the 399 version with a hdd mod.
I don't think a day has gone by since I got mine that I haven't used it.
I see what you did there 😂
It's felt like I've had mine longer than a year, lol. This really sets to scale how premature the "Steam Deck 2" ideas are.
My biggest thing with the Steam Deck are still price, build quality, and support. I keep seeing people say "well well this is newer and more powerful blah blah," yeah, it's going to be like that every single damn year, but it also misses the point of why a HUGE number of people get these games. They don't want to spend Nvidia GPU prices on a nice little portable device and they are more than happy to compromise power for affordability once it's at a very comfortable place, which imo is what the Steam Deck is at. They don't need to run Crysis 4 at 1440p 120 FPS on a handheld, lmao. That's literally why the Switch is so explosively popular, and all the expensive rtaaaaawr more power devices are missing that at their ridiculous 1k+ price points.
And none of them come anywhere near the support Steam Deck enjoys, and I know that well having long been in the retro and mini pc handheld scene. The SD isn't perfect, of course, but now that Valve knows it's a valid path, I'm positive SD 2 is going to really be a banger with many more options.
If you have money to spend and are 100% dead set on playing chunky AAA games at high fidelty and FPS on the go instead on a proper console or PC for a better immersive experience, then go ahead and buy a new Aya neo every year. For everyone else just trying to emulate golden oldies, play indies, and juice less demanding stuff or stuff like remasters/remakes (Suikoden 1/2 is coming and Persona 3/4/5 are a dream on the Deck!), the value for what you get is nuts on the Steam Deck.
Steam deck is insane value for the money.
It works even with AAA titles like Resident Evil Village and even the pretty demanding game Blue Reflection Second Light is playable with 40 heartz and 40 FPS (even with the native resolution)
I've been mostly playing capcom games and RE engine especially is very compatible with Steam deck.
MH Rise Sunbreak I can run it with 6W TDP of Cpu and 500MHz GPU with 40Fps cap, RE 7 and Village runs exceptionally well at 60 FPS, which I still cap at 40 anyway.
And DMC V has been running like a dream at full fat 60 fps.
I'm looking forward to the next big MonHun game next year and I'm confident it will run decently on deck with RE engine is almost guaranteed running that game.
I'm kind of hoping Valve decides to follow a more traditional console-cycle with the Steam Deck. So long as it can still maintain decent frames in contemporary games then we're good. I'd like them to focus mainly on increasing Steam OS support so the next generation can ship already able to play big games like Destiny 2
I’m pretty sure that Destiny 2 is theoretically runnable in this iteration of the Deck already. There is gameplay footage on RUclips. But it’s not runnable out-of-box and not natively supported by the system at all. That is mostly an engine limitation than a Deck one, and maybe they will update the game so it becomes compatible, though I doubt that greatly.
@@joaoazevedo3939 There is no limitation other than the game developer. They are afraid of cheaters and what it might mean if they allow Linux... they don't see any benefit in profits to even research the topic, so instead the just do a blanket ban and tell people to get lost. Steam can't do anything to get past a game developer actively blocking the game from working.
@@joaoazevedo3939 the only reason it is not compatible is because of anti-cheat. Bungee just needed to update their anti-cheat to be compatible with the Steam Deck, but they chose not to.
@@kotta8kritter frustrating that too many devs are not doing the bare minimum to allow us to play. Like Smite plays fine on practice mode but start an online match with others and instant crash because of easyanticheat.
@@GameTimeWhy same with Halo Infinite lately, I can play the campaign just fine, but when trying to play online it freezes and crashes.
Right now with the steam deck I’m buying about 4 to 6 indie games a week. Such an awesome gaming device to enjoy those kinds of games.
Agreed!
What are some of your favorites you've gotten?
While I do agree based on what we have available now a performance upgraded version isn't needed, it may have to come sooner than later simply due to the Steam Deck not living in a vacuum and companies like GDM and Ayaneo continually pushing new hardware on a typical PC release schedule and having faster and faster hardware, still atm I don't see the upgrade worth it since while the 6800U is most definitely faster it doesn't really pull a significant amount ahead till it gets to that higher tdp range that's not really ideal for a battery powered handheld, but that may change with the new 7000 series mobile APU's with RDNA 3
I absolutely love my steam deck, but I still don't think its ready for mainstream consumers just yet.
I think besides for the steam deck, PC gaming is getting more mainstream bc PC ports are better made these days.
My decision to get a game on my PS5 vs PC (if it's available on both) is no longer a compatibility question but just a preference on where I want to play it or cost.
But It used to be that often PC ports were made as afterthoughts or that games were made more often with only console or PC in mind.
But these days developers are actually trying to make PC versions as smooth as console ones and adapting the UIs to the versions instead of solely built for one or the other.
It's symbiotic, the Steam Deck makes PC gaming more user friendly but it's also bc PC gaming has become more user friendly that the Steam Deck can even exist.
I missed the email from Steam back in March 2022 to complete my purchase. I decided to wait until they became more available and purchased my Deck at the end of November. I purposely ignored any videos etc during 2022 so when I actually had one most things were a new discovery for me. The Steam Deck is not perfect but for me it is close. I am amazed at just how great this thing is. There is one thing that no one talks about and it is that it does not come with Microsuck Windows installed. It is amazing how the engineers at Valve have gotten so many Windows games running on Linux. In spite of the game devs that only make games for WIndows the Valve engineers for the past 10 years have succeeded at in my opinion made Windows irrelevant. The Stem Deck along with Steam OS 3 that is a customized version of Arch Linux is showing the world that Linux is now a viable alternative to Windows. If you honestly look at Windows you discover that it is the worse malware/Spyware that has ever been created. Since getting my Deck it has shown me that most of my hundreds of games now run great on Linux. It has empowered me to finally to ditch Windows. I now have installed Grauda Linux on all of my PC's. The fact that Steam OS is Linux should be pointed out in any discussion about the Steam Deck. As more and more Decks get out in the wild I predict that it will become a major influence on game development. The biggest thing that could happen is to influence the use of Vulcan instead of Direct X. There is only two things that use Direct X the XBox and Windows PC's both are products of Microsuck. The rest of the world, mobile gaming, MacOS, LinuxOS and Sony's Playstation use Open GL or Vulcan.
Yeah, that would all be nice, but everyone wants to talk about installing Windows and their Stockholm Syndrome... oh well, I'll stick with Linux, no MS for me. Oh and Apple does stupid stuff like MS... macOS does NOT support Vulkan, and its support for OpenGL is old, deprecated, and very problematic. They only actively support their own proprietary Metal API. Best to stick to Linux.
Hey, just wanted to know if you have heard of the Handheld Companion for Windows on Steam Deck? It appears to give some polish to the controller setup as well as offer some neat overlays you can custom map yourself. Sorry if you've covered this in a previous video, just thought you'd be interested to know to try out. Thanks!
Hi! My house runs on truck batteries with solar power and I'm very happy that the steam deck exists, 30 - 40 watts consumption with GTA 5 is a hell of a difference to 100 - 150 watts from the gaming laptop.
Without the steam deck it would not be possible for me to play in winter because of the low solar radiation.
Can you tell me more about your solar panel set up?
@@dat1ytcomment262 Hi! I installed about 4000 watts of solar panels on our carport.
there are 3 strings with different numbers in parallel on three different charge controllers. 2 each in series, so that I get a 24 volt system.
The carport isn't particularly high, and there are houses next to it, so the full sun doesn't hit the panels until around noon, and between 4 and 6 in the evening it's over again.
I have a video on my channel where I show the system (unfortunately German is spoken there, sorry)
It is the fourth newest video on the channel called "Solar System - Der Aufstieg zur Mittelklasse"
watch?v=LGS-A48swjo
the video still lacks new installed solar cells, a few batteries and a charge controller, its a bit older.
3D_V-Cache Draws less Power could be potentially a Big Upgrade for the Steam Deck
I remember release day watching all the reviews. Good times. Yours was the best!
I'm still waiting for some sort of refresh.
The specs are fine but I'd love something a little more refined with better ergonomics, better battery life and an OLED screen.
Valve got you covered. Congraduations.
If Valve keeps this pace up with the current Deck I will absolutely hands down buy the next iteration whenever it comes out. That said I hope they give it more time to be out in the wild because I think they can get a few years easily out of the current hardware.
I love my Steam Deck. Played a lot of my older Console Games on it as well as some higher PC Stuff. And i am amazed how there are still new high end PC Games coming out that run totally fine on the Steam Deck
Really hope we don't get a major hardware change until 2026 at the earliest. 4 years is fair. At the least, hopefully we can order a replacement motherboard when the new hardware revision arrives.
Yeah I hope the form factor is close enough that we can buy a replacement mobo and apu to swap out and even an oled screen replacement would be awesome.
A slim version with an OLED screen would be huge tho.
@@syrozzz no it won't be
As someone who’s into headphones, it hurts my brain to see blue and red and not have red on the right
Can't wait for mine to arrive!
I agree, I've had steam deck from launch and it's been AMAZING. I was looking at the Ayaneo 2 but the issues I've been seeing makes me steer clear. The steam deck is quite honestly, the best gaming experience I've ever had. Even with newer games. Even playing at 1080p on an external display. The only thing I would like is a better screen (OLED perhaps)...but beyond that it does it all. What I would LOVE to see in a future revision tho is 2 ports so it can easily be displayed and charged and eGPU support to use in the living room at 4k. I think it would be amazing if they actually released their own eGPU box for use with the deck. I would be on board!
The one thing I want for the Steam Deck is a Sharpening filter. So I can use that with a game's built-in internal resolution scale instead of lowering the entire game's resolution and using FSR.
Man, Deck is the "console" Ive always wanted
I dont really see the Steamdeck needing a new APU, but i do see the value of a Steamdeck Pro with possibly another semi-custom Zen4+RDNA3 based APU with 6 cores+12-16CU and 35wTDP and a 60Wh battery, maybe an OLED screen, the SOC could be used in a mini-desktop variant similarly priced to the SteamDeck, but lacking the screen/battery or controller, but extra features like a full sized M.2 and ethernet port
Love your video bro
The best part is the awesome trackpads
Disclaimer: I'm going to focus on the 64GB model because it is the lowest price point and it's easier to sell someone on spending $400USD over $650USD.
The only thing I would call for a hardware revision over is storage, for three reasons:
1) Amount. 64GBs is pitiful for modern gaming. Sure, there's micro SD cards, sure it works, but that's not a perfect solution long term for reasons I'll touch on further down on the next point. I would say the minimum amount of storage a Steam Deck revision should have is 256GB for the entry level, then 512GBs for the mid tier model, and then 1TB for the top tier.
2) Speed. While fine for now, eMMC storage is going to be a major problem going forward if, or more like when, Direct Storage becomes a thing. Upgrading to a Zen 3 or Zen 4 APU would allow Valve to utilize PCIe Gen 4 drives more fully.
3) A bigger form factor drive. While I would prefer a 2280 slot (imagine an 8TB Steam Deck, lol), had Valve gone with at least gone with a 2242 slot finding 2TB drives would've far easier and cheaper. I've found 2242 2TB drives for around $150 bucks on _Newegg._ Which would've been a major weight off my shoulders. I'm not the biggest fan of buying computer hardware on Ebay or Aliexpress, but I do it when I have to. I mean, if you're going to upgrade the battery anyway, might as well change the Deck's chassis a bit to fit a bigger drive, right?
Otherwise, the Steam Deck is fine. The only other substantive issue with the Steam Deck is software related and that can be fixed through software updates. Battery life is problematic sure, but I kind of expect that with X86 handhelds.
Great review as always
Just picked mine up the other day. I do think the hardware will need to be improved by the time the next generation becomes available, but performance is fine for now. It doesn't need Ray tracing or anything like that, but recent AAA games are already hard enough to get a consistent 40 fps.
instead of an upgrade in designing a new apu, they could start producing a 6nm refresh as its a half node away from 7 and can use the same designs. sony has already done this with the ps5 but it can be more meaningful with the deck.
psa for those that find the trackpad weird : get some thumb sleeves. they are amazing.
are you using that new AI software that keeps your eyes always looking at the camera?
I am! I was wondering if anyone would notice! Good catch. What do you think? Ultimately I feel like it loses a lot of expressiveness.
It's quite easy to miss, but the eyes do seem to drop frames and float around a little bit. Personally I prefer it when people can look around in videos since it seems more natural. It is impressive technology though.
@@ThePhawx Oh my god. Once I have read that comment and paid attention, that looks so artificial and floaty.
Really, there is no need to stare into the camera all the time with eyes which are being detached from your face.
Look all the way you want using your real intelligence. No AI needed.
I was looking if someone asked you already. +1 at loses a lot of expressiveness, few minutes in it felt kinda robot-y. if you know what i mean. Great content keep it up!
I was wondering what seemed so creepy...
they still need to release the steam deck for other countries before making a sequel :)
I hope they skip India
It's been my primary PC gaming machine ever since I got it and have little to no regrets. The GPD Win 4 is obviously diverting my attention with its (personally) superior form factor and physical keyboard. But as good as that is, I don't think it can replace the support Valve provides for the Deck/Steam OS. That's the main attraction to me overall. The main caveat to me at the moment is running games that aren't on Steam or older than 2010 (e.g. NFSMW 2005). But other than that, I have nothing I can really complain about so far. It runs most fighting games at a solid 60fps, and I can tweak it as much as I want. I think the only real improvements they can make for the next one outside of general hardware improvements is I/O. I'd like a USB-A port on there somewhere, and an extra USB-C port on the bottom since I think it's more comfortable for playing while charging.
Also I didn't even realise the sub count's reached 70K, holy shit you've come a long way now lmao
U can play games that aint on steam tho, ive seen people have sucess running on nfs mw steam/lutris, i ran it on wine an was fine for the most part. dodi repacks black edition works well on linux, while other versions might suffer from their own iconsistent issues, and thats were wine,proton still fall down a bit while in some other cases you might end up lucky to run better than on windows.
@@asunavk69 Nah I got it working in the end, the process is just more difficult than I want it to be and probably more than it could be. But yeah it's not impossible or anything, just a hassle
As much as I like Linux, I think gaming on a Windows machine with regular big picture mode for Steam or something like Playnite, RetroBat or Launchbox is also a good experience without the need to worry about compatibility.
As an other point which speaks for Windows is the community support. All those nice tools, including the cpu/gpu auto tuning bat Phawx has covered in his channel are Windows exclusive.
SteamDeck is nice and all, but to me, a faster Handheld with Windows and community tools is the better option for gaming.
What Valve is doing for Linux gaming is amazing and I hope they will continue doing so :)
@@mystechry I disagree with you on this point. Windows is a primarily desktop operating system. It is closed source and you need Microsoft to fine tune it to a handheld device. I highly doubt that Microsoft would put any Dollar in fine tuning there system that it would work with a handheld factor.
Linux on the other hand is a open system, that can be modified to work as intended on designed hardware. That is what Valve did with the Steam Deck. The Steam OS is setup to work perfectly with the given controller, screen size, resolution and even menu support. Something that would not be possible on Windows without the direct support from Microsoft.
@@Cyanwasserstoff I do not like Windows, because of its closed source nature.
However I have a Win Max 2 and there are many more tools available for Windows than for Linux.
I am very surprised by how much can be done in Windows.
I dual boot btw, because I prefer Linux for everything else except gaming.
Of course, the Steam Dech is a different story, as its OS was specifically made for the hardware.
A video patting yourself on the back... Neat
Definitely debating getting one of these and rehoming my switch lite. The switch is nice and all but it doesn’t have all the games I want on it (Games I already own in steam). I know a handful of games are exclusive to Nintendo but considering the bigger library on steam this may be a better option for me. Not only that but I can literally play on my pc and sync it to play on the go… I can’t do that with the switch. Saves can only stay on one device unless you cloud store (which costs money).
I have to say that I still can't order a steamdeck in my country....the buttons are just greyed out so it requires a lot of extra hoops to jump through in order to get one, and then support might be shoddy if there's anything wrong with it.
So at this point, I will no longer consider getting a steamdeck until a next generation. It's been too long by now, and there is no information of when it might become available here in Norway.
6:26 yes but what you don't realize is steam deck can run Minecraft with ray tracing at 80x60
Valve & steamdeck has been great. You too have work hard with steamdeck. good job to you too. hope more exciting video coming from you. 👍
The biggest compliment I can make to the Steam Deck, is that I haven’t touched the Switch since. And I love the Switch
Why you staring at me? 🎵 can’t keep my eyes off of you🎶
I am very happy without raytracing.
In that Minecraft showcase for example, I prefer the traditional brighter ambient light over the super dark ray tracing.
I'd take the plus in battery life and resolution any time, even if raytracing was viable.
Still not available in Australasia, other than via scalpers. I'm not concerned as I have a Win max 2 with 32g ram, which still cost LESS than it would have been to get even the 128gb steam deck via scalpers.... Man Valve taking their time!
hey phaux, i have a deck stick clicking on 360 turns and lookign it up it seems like the red capacitive wire is stuck in a bad position inside it. Is the capacitive wire really important for functionality like avoiding drift and such or can i just leave it as is? I dont want to open the deck just to re reoute the wire as reddit suggests and rma is not an option where i live. thanks!
Valve isn’t updating the steam deck any earlier than 2025. They won’t update a console they’re making in less than 3 solid years. At the least. And I bet it’s a small update.
Back in 2022 they said they were going to skip a generation of amd apu's so a 6000 series one isn't happening but the next gen apu's probably will in 2024
@@ADreamingTraveler I don’t see Valve selling most likely 2-3 million steam decks by 2024 and then after 2 years upgrading it. Not seeing it. Not a smart business move. They might release an oled version or even one with a bigger internal SSD or better battery. But nothing will be done to the processors that fast.
From my experience during last 2 weeks, the MAIN problem for this machine is that most of its games are made for monitor, and some multi-plat games like those from SONY are made for big TVs, so all these games have really tiny fonts and UIs, so even if you can run these games with low settings plus some FSR trick, the game is such a pain to my eyes.
Valve said that the games which get a pass is very good to play on the deck in all aspects(fonts, graphic, control...), but I've tried my lib, my answer is not really. Games such as witcher3, monster hunter world, and many many more all have really small fonts, yes you can read them, but if you play game for over an hour or two, it is not very good to have these small fonts.
The same problem actually happens on the switch, the switch also has a lot of games with small texts, these game are all good on the docked mode, but not optimized for handheld mode.
And I have a question for quite a long time, why do the game companies made their games with small texts?
Or at least give me an option to set texts to large, or super large, I myself really need that option in every game!!
What about battery life? Can I game all day like I do on my consoles and PC? Will the Steam Deck charge while I’m playing a game on it or will it still drain battery?
If they do an update, I hope its a "steam deck mini" or similar because the only issue that I have with it is that it is an ergonomic disaster.
Steam Deck is by far my favorite "console" besides that Halo 3 Special Edition Xbox 360 that I've ever owned. Compatibility with titles has been steadily improving, system stability has been solid, and the control flexibility is unmatched. If there was a way to get an OLED display and anti-cheat support in key AAA titles that would make it literally unbeatable for the price.
yeah a console with access to PC games..
U should have more sub with the deep content u provide
Im buying this week with 1tb dualboot liteon ssd
Both for $550
Totally agreed it's a a capable 800p40 machine
Won't need another super APU on deck till 2025 for me,unless rdna3/rdna4 igpu performance is around rx570 in 15w & close to 6600 with 25-35w tdp
I totally agree with your point of view that making a new Deck model with upgraded hadware is pointless right now, even worse I think it would actually hurt Valve in the long run. I'm so fed up with all those tubers and their 6800u handhelds review, cranking up everything that can be with the device plugged in to make pretty videos and never mentioning they'd get 1hr of battery if they'd remove the cord and then gret praised in the comment section by the same kind of people who crap on the Deck's battery life... I hope AMD will keep improving very low power performances in the future though because as far as I understood it, their upcoming gen of laptops hardware seems to go the opposite way and that would suck if 2 years from now they still have nothing better to show for at 15-20W tops because until we have widespread new battery tech, it's nonsensical to me to go higher in a handheld even if we're able to cool it. Speaking of which the new cooling tech shown at CES is something I'd love to see in the future Deck.
I've seen people asking for 120hz and 1080p screens on those things and it's like do you want the thing to last 30 minutes? lol
Thank you so much. I just watched a steam deck “review” where they boasted about being able to attach an RTX 4070 to it.
This video was straightforward and informative, exactly what I want out of a video
Hey Phawx I recently got a steam deck and first thing I noticed after setting it up is that on the steam ui and desktop mode when I use my left trigger it feels like it’s very faint with the haptic feedback compared to my right trigger which is way more noticeable in vibration, does yours do that? I also tried tweaking the vibration in the settings but no dice. Thanks if you get to answer this just because I’m debating whether this is RMA worthy or not.
I wanna see a new one every three years
Is it worth it to get a 6800U handheld over the Steamdeck? Like I know it performs better but is it worth the 2x price tag? I wanna play RPCS3 and Xenia games as well.
Nope. Think of repairs, warranty, community.
@@sagepirotess6312 Yeah I might just wait for the next gen (7800U) maybe it'll be more worth it
I'm having trouble with some Wii U games. They launch but as soon as I hit start they crash out to the game selection screen.
Love the steam deck
I useually want the most bang for my buck, and decided to get a handheld 2 weeks ago, i still went with the steam deck instead of the competition, because i know itll keep getting updates, the controls seem superior to me, with the extra back buttons and clickable pads, and ill propably just do moon light on heavier to run games anyway.
Trust me the steam deck was your best bet even ignoring how much value it has at the given price point compared to the "competition".
After a year, the STORE still hasn't changed, & it's absolutely atrocious on the Deck.
Any idea why they haven't done anything to improve it outright since launch?
Could all the gleaming reviews leaving out the store part altogether contribute to Steam not knowing how badly the Store functions on the Deck since launch? It seems like a glaring problem, but for some reason updates focus on other things & nobody even mentions the Store, know what I mean? 🤷♂️
RND3 or no upgrade
Oled screen, better battery. Thats all i need...
Got mine in June its a fun device
My Deck literally just arrived today. I instantly installed a 1tb ssd, I managed to get steam os back and partition the ssd, but the windows bootable USB I did at an internet cafe didn't work... They only had win 7 still... So, now all I have done is installed emudeck, a couple a snes games and I'm waiting for Halo infinite and GTA 5 to download while I think about how I'm gonna get windows. I think I might use the sd card method, I can still save windows games on the partition and boot windows from an SD card right?
I want dynamic resolution pls valve, look at how many games the switch can run thanks to that. dynamic res and 40hz would be amazing
I have steam deck with around 600 games. It's good, but now is way overhyped (imo). I'd say it's perfect for you if portable gaming is your main way to game and you already have a big pc game library. If not, get a switch (I have both). Imagine if Nintendo was like "buy a switch'... but beware the controllers won't be configured for most of your games...lol. Also do we now all think watching the super bowl on a tiny screen is way better than on a big screen? Nope. I do like and use my deck daily, but people are getting carried away. For me it is perfect for roguelikes, hack and slash, pixel games.
oled when
can you do a 1 year review if aya 2 and win 4
Can I order a steak deck with games pre installed?
People will always ask for a hardware upgrade
This was the year of Linux.
1+ million of new Linux users.
Probably 0 new Linux users.
If you count Android as Linux (uses Linux kernel) and all those other devices like your router or car, there is a high chance, all those SteamDeck buyers were already Linux users before and simply did not know ;)
@@mystechry you are right lol.
I got the Steam Deck fairly early but ended up selling it, it wasn't for me. That said, it is great that Valve is supporting this so hard. The Steam Deck definitely pushed other handheld companies to up their games and bring more users to the space. Valve advanced handheld PC gaming like nobody else could.
What do you think are the odds of an alt shell that’s smaller but uses the same components aside from the mouse pad?
I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Pretty sure they won't make another model for a year or two more and that's when they want to focus on battery life and screen
@@OnlyGrafting it would be cool if they made cad files for a smaller deck that fits everything for third party companies to make and sell
Woah, 10 hours ago how ironic
Best gaming release since the switch. Coming from an early PS5, GPD Win 1, 2 and 3 owner and original steam deck sceptic.
The price is what makes it great
@@mystechry price and implementation, ergonomically a lot better than it looks, Steam OS really bridging that gap between console and PC. Valve have outdone themselves.
@@timsarai RetroBat and BigPicture mode is enough console experience for me.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the Steam Controller.
For someone, who migrated almost exclusively to GOG, being tied to the Steam eco system is not the best choice ;)
@@mystechry and here’s me hating the GOG loader 😂. Shows you, one man’s crap is another man’s cream.
@@timsarai I value the DRM free games.
I always use an other frontend if I want to.
GOG Galaxy gets worse when you have many games installed, as it takes a while to boot.
I really want to own my games and be able to make a backup for later.
Steam is quite reliable, but better be save than sorry.
I had the situation once, where I was offline and Steam for some reason decided to require a sign. Offline mode was not available. For GOG games there is always a fallback to the exe itself.
I really do not hat Steam. I like a lot what they do. It's just that I am very much against DRM.
Too cumbersome, too large. Not really mobile.
Did you actually say what you were right about
Hey Man, you using Nvidia new eye tracking tech? Your eyes seem… off? Or am I just going crazy!
Edit: you are!! Saw your previous replies! That tech is nuts!
I got mine in march and barely used it. I can't help but find the Steam Deck weird. I look at it and I find it's a great piece of hardware, I want to install everything in it and use it all the time, but as a PC gamer first, aka a mouse & keyboard FPS guy, I'm already making an effort to play it with the controller, but for the life of my I just can't agree with the button layout. The sticks, the pads, they're in the wrong place. Even if I fire up some emulation, it doesn't feel right. I'm sincerely hoping the ergonomics of the GPD WIN 4 fix this for me. But with all that negative, I still love it. I've put mine up for sale, could really use the money I would get back, but I'm constantly debating if I should just keep it, install Windows 11 in it, and use it more like a PC. It's a great machine, just with a few flaws that I have to admit, I may just be noticing because there's starting to be some serious competition out there fixing 'em.
The small minority of people who want a hardware bump are exactly the sort of mentality that keeps PC gaming constrained and unappealing. Consoles generally see the most performance squeezed from the hardware through a long life cycle, while the really OCD PC types just update various modules. Some people don’t have time or money for that, especially when dealing with something like the Deck. Is the Nintendo could get what they got out of the Switch, there’s plenty of years ahead for the Deck, especially with a company like Valve helming this project.
If anything they need to Shrink the Steam Deck it's too Big and Bulky for portable use.
Yeah. The raw power is on point, but there is a lot to improve in other areas
hopefully the successor to the steam deck will be more compact, but for now the size is alright and it’s comfortable to hold
I hope they don't, IMO the size is the best part of the Steam Deck, it's made for adult hands and not children's hands like the Switch which my hands cramp up after about 15 mins of play using, I'd much rather great ergonomics over smaller for the sake of being smaller with terrible ergonomics like most handhelds do.
@@sandrahiltz That's not my point. It's too big for portability. Carrying it is a chore because it takes up most of the space it my bag and it's heavy. Also the D-Pad sucks. You charge a premium for a gaming device only to ruin the most basic parts of it. Any Handheld that messes up a D-Pad is not a good Handheld to me.
@@Pridetoons then get one of the plethora of handheld PCs that sacrificed usability for being small, not every handheld needs to be small a awful to use ones, and I have no issues carrying mine around everywhere, meanwhile my switch sits in it's dock at home cause it's smaller size means it's awful to use handheld. Really Valve should be praised for doing engineering correctly and making a handheld with proper economics, and not the Apple way of form over function at any cost
One year later, I cannot recommend it to the average person.
I can. My brother is a normal Windows 10 user on PC and a Switch Gamer, but he even really fell in love with the Steam Deck. He plays games like Resident Evil 2, 3 (Remakes), Hyperdimension Neptunia Rebirth 2
@@Cyanwasserstoff That is nice.
I messed up....and, ummm Nvidia is great! We all make mistakes all good. You've created a nice little niche for yourself.
The Steam Deck is truly turning out to be the Switch killer we were hoping for.
I don't get where all these cries for a "Steam Deck 2" are coming from. Do these people even understand what they're talking about?
The biggest issue with the Deck has never been performance, but battery life. Making the Deck faster only makes the battery life even worse.
Valve has also gone on record saying that there wouldn't be any performance upgrades to the hardware for a long time, only minor tweaks.
If you ask me, we're not going to see any upgrades until the Deck is at least 4 years old - and that's me being optimistic.
If anything, we're likely going to see upgrades to power efficiency to deal with battery life (not raw processing speed) as this is the Deck's biggest flaw right now.
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I agree on every point. That's why i just laugh my ass off of anyone asking for hardware update or even steamdeck2. This is not chinese bootleg GDP or ayaneo people where they release new models every 2 months.
Steam deck is trash
My biggest disappointment of 2022. Easily.
Steam deck best of the best
Steam should up their game including desktop. I wanna ditch Windows so bad.🥲
Portable gaming stat God his name is the phawx 🥹