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I'm reading some of these comments.Really. Pastor Bryant did not bash Tyler Perry. He was using Made a as an example. Wake up people.
A man also has to get rid of his "extra" women when he is married to one.
Amen! If you are not going to stand for God, by all means sit your a** down.
Sho Nuff 🍧🚴♀️🚒
He's only a man people...Are you all perfect? Oh i thought not...Not justifying his decisions but i wont be as foolish to pretend because people are preachers they dont make mistakes or have issues...
Howard Jones I agree he indeed is only a man, but when one take the time to call others out for their sins, one must be prepared for his own sins to be brandished before the public.
I hear you there, hopefully the lesson was learned.
Everybody hates on this preacher for his mistakes, but obviously God's hands and anointing is still upon him because he still preaches with power.
If you all are that holy then pray for him. I'm never going to sit in judgement of anyone because I have made my bad choices even as a preacher.
AMEN!
God's hand is not on him , it's called gifts and charisma. Even Saul remained king but that didn't mean God was with Him even after God put him over His people. Jamal is mixing it up with Louis Farrahkahn when the bible clearly says "what fellowship does a believer have with a non believer. .....come out from among them"!!!!!!
This guy is a Greek frat member of Kappa which is full of idolatry and he takes his daughter to the Beyonce concerts......the woman that openly says she has a demon of Sasha in her. He needs to repent, plain and simple
+Jerome Williams WHAT? When did her alter-ego (Sasha Fierce) become a demon? You sound a fool! Kappa Alpha Psi is a SERVICE organization! You are messy and judgemental and it's YOU who needs to repent!
6 mins of fruit .....because you don't know the bible your own comment shows who the fool is. When you study blgo's, their oaths, hazings, founders, crest symbols, altars at their meetings then talk.
Beyonce has already said "Sasha(the demon) takes over for her while she performs, now because you like her sin and gratifying your flesh watching her then of course what I say( which is biblical) you will find offense to. Yes! I'm judging the sin and demon that the person is glorifying and that satan is using to hold people in bondage to condone sin which is what I am allowed to do biblically. Perhaps you should read 1 John Chp 3 " these to manifested children of God and children of the devil".
Jesus called out sin and so did all of the Apostles who wrote the NT along with 100% of the prophets did in the OT so being called judgemental is compliment since I am in good company with those that serve God. case closed.....
+6 mins of fruit Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc is a Social organization that focuses on service. I'm a member.
This is such a powerful message and those that have a problem with it are the ones that are "too connected with their mothers." They are the ones, that believe that a man can be with a man. As Pastor Bryant said, a man is supposed to be with a woman. As a man, you are supposed to leave your father's or in some cases your mother's house and find a God-fearing woman, who will be your blessing. For some of you "momma's boys," and those with alternative lifestyles, you are finding this message hard to swallow because Pastor Bryant is stepping on your toes. The woman GOD has for you is your "BENEDICTION."
Personally I do not care about your lifestyle. It is your choice and not mine. I am not bashing anyone just explaining things for those, who might not be getting it or receiving this word because of your own fear and anger.
I don't believe that this pastor should call Tyler Perry out like that as being ungodly in his ROLE as Madea. It's a stage and Hollywood character. The sermon would have been better understood, appreciated, appropriate and accepted (without using a Hollywood actor as his focal point) had he used Biblical references. Gospel preaching is preaching the Bible. All aspects of the message would have been cohesive and no one (including brother Tyler Perry) would have been offended. Say what you want, I know this man (Perry) loves God. One Question: How would JBryant feel if a preacher (NOT HIS OWN SHEPARD/PASTOR) broadcast his life negatively all over the Internet and RUclips. I know Mr. Bryant has not lived a perfect life -- none of us have.
janip it's exactly what I thought. His life has been smeared all over TV because his wife or ex wife is on a reality show not leading a very Christian life and what she has to say about him makes Madea look like a nun. Performer's have existed since before Jesus and it's simply a performance, I honestly did not see the relevance of using Tyler Perry's performance as Madea to his message, with that being said, yes I understand what he's saying and can agree but we should be very careful about who and what we are judging because it can and will come back to haunt you.
@@MimMim-hs2rs there was never a before Jesus according to the book 😭😭
No lie, Tyler Perry has reenergized a lot of black actors' careers!
This message has nothing to do with Tyler Perry sometimes Preachers have to use examples especially in Today's generation to get a message from the bible to be understood.
This is teaching! When you get to the root of the problem, that's when you change your life. Black folk always want to hear the same repetitive sermon " I got a bunch of problems, but thank you Jesus! We need more Pastors that will empower the black community.
I thank God for Pastor Bryant because he has the courage to speak the truth of God's word. I thank him for reminding me that I am the benediction in my husbands life. Marriage is still sacred and very important to our survival as a race and as a man & woman in this world. I thank Pastor for making it clear for us to see the BIG picture of what is really behind the spirit of divorce. Yes, it is still those Momma issues keep tripping us up! We must mature in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen and Amen! If you don't raise your sons according to the word and was raised in a disfunctional home then the man of God is telling the truth what men especially need to hear so they can get free and not carry his issues into marriage or another family. Min Arabella Robinson. Blessings
I now feel a certain way when people say things like "raise your sons according to the word." I assume by "the word", you mean the Bible. When I see or hear this, I ask people have they actually read all of the [instructions] for men in that book? If they had, they would refuse to apply that book to guide them to live what most people would consider a "moral, ethical, and even a kind" life. Some of those expectations/instructions are horrid and would not yield a person one would even want to live next door to, let alone marry.
STAND ON THE WORD JB!!! PREACH MOG!!!
This is powerful! I love Pastor Bryant with the Philia love of Christ. I thank God that he didn’t allow his fall to define his ministry gift and give up preaching the Word.🙌🏽
I don't think that disconnecting from your mother means disrespecting her listen to it again
This is good, for every boy that does not get what he needs in childhood that they carry these lacks into adulthood and prevents them from being the man of God that He intends foe them to become.
+Berdell Fleming Amen! everyone is so focused on Tyler Perry bashing missing the whole point of the sermon but I see that you were the only one who got it. More teaching needs to be on this subject.
Jennifer Whiten I thought the message was a good one and agree on men and being mama's boys but I feel the pastor is the one who brought way too much attention to Tyler Perry and the Madea character. I see no relevance, even if he continued to acknowledge it himself other than the fact that it felt like it was personal and he used this sermon as an excuse to put it out there. Boy do Christians love doing that, using God as an excuse to away with what's convenient to them. This message and something about it makes me feel uncomfortable, the essence of it was well intended but somehow got lost in translation. There is nothing about the Madea character nor Tyler Perry for that matter that represents a mama's boy, quite the contrary. What a shame.
Can we focus on the word of Jehovah & not our opinions or criticizing of others.
Its not any attack on Tyler. And Tyler is not persecuted for his uninvited experiences. But the attack is against the past that is trying to (TRYING TO) hold him hostage. We pray for Mr. Perry that yolks are broken and relationships are mended. I consider myself because I am not above temptation.
If God had that type of message for Tyler Perry that message should have been to him alone, personally. Mr. Perry's own pastor is his shepherd to watch over his soul and not Mr. Bryant. Pastor Bryant has his own sheep to tend to. I look forward to the day when preachers stick with preaching scriptures and Bible. There are so many examples in the Bible where Jesus showed MERCY and GRACE to people that received no mercy and grace from others. Why can't we be like Jesus?
janip amen! Very well said.
He doesn't mean kick your mother to the curb. He simply means that once you have found your wife, your mother is not the first lady of your life and not the first lady of your household. Many men fail to realize and accept this. Definitely love and respect your mother, and take care of her if she is uncapable of doing so (with the help of your wife & vis versa). But as for your marriage, your wife is your FIRST priority. You can only be SON to your mother, not her MAN.
Don't be deceived, this man: 1) gave a motivational speech for 5 minutes or so, 2) gave a biography of Tyler Perry for another 5 minutes, 3) asked for money, 4) didn't open the Word of God before the people (to model the importance of studying/knowing/obeying sound doctrine) and 5) provided entertainment & emotionalism by whooping and hollaring!
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Matt 19:5
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Genesis 2:24
Truth of the matter is, most men do need to grow up. Not all, but some. We as men often times do look for our wives to be for us what our mothers were. This was never God's intention for men. We need to be "real" men. not boys masquerading in men bodies....
AMEN!!!
Patrick Williams Aaaaaaaaamen... Thank you...Thank you... only thing I can say... is Deep understands the Deep. God bless you.
He was not speaking badly about Tyler Perry he used it as a parable... Wake up! Instead of getting the word we want to harp on the negative. Who cares who this man used to be or what he did, that’s between his ex-wife and God. Listen to the word where he is speaking from. If you’re easily bothered by some of the negative things then bringing up his pass it’s something in you. I love him and I pray God continues to use him. The truth hurts!
Isn't this the guy that had a baby with one of his 17 year old parishioners, while he was married and was pastoring his current church?
Hmmm sometimes preachers preach gossip and not gospel. Tyler hustle was God sent he's the only one who puts Jesus and gospel songs in the mix . The problem is he can mimic these modern day pastors too good . Till it exposes their game oh yes. Preachers have game . But at the end of the day knowing Jesus for yourself curves the foolishness.
Amen dr.bryant preach the truth rather people receive it or not truth hurts the word says he who is spiritual judges all things. People that loves lies and foolishness always says it's judging keep preaching brother amen!!! Men neef to be men and woman needs to be woman what God has created in jesus name.
I am sick and tired of people criticizing Tyler Perry for his Madea character when God is also mentioned and the root of every single one of his plays. Are you serious? Who cares? I guess that's why he must be more successful than you. Because he's not out there criticizing other people's work. I would never buy anything nor listen to anything you have to say. This coming from a minister who cheated on his wife. Wow.
Thank you
brotha than u must believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. the greatest deception of evil (what we call the devil) is that he/it does not exist. the capability of that evils Knowledge is capable of infiltrating the church. No way should we connect to a man acting as a woman, for it disrupts the consciousness of a man. True the man has to establish a better method and acceptance of being a nurture but Madea is in fact a okie Doke! as a man we should find the feminism within ourselves as men which make us whole, but feeding into the substitute like madea for our responsibility makes and validates the existence of homosexuality
Yes I agree with you on that one, some people love to point the finger and criticize other's.But "never" take the time to look at themselve's
Pastor Jamal needs to listen to this message for himself
Thank God For Having a Father and Mother in the home who is filled with the Holy Ghost........And Just for the Record God is not the Author of confusion
Preach.! Its real what he's talking about.. you LEAVE AND CLEAVE to your WIFE not your mother.! Its out of Order
Hallelujah Thank You Lord I believe and receive this great message in Jesus mighty name Amen 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Listening 03.14.22. Blessed to be able to hear. I absolutely am in love with his Spirit. I will meet him soon. In Jesus name. AMEN!! Thank you SDS
That's Tyler Perry's truth to share and to be judged by a man of God who cheated on his wife throwing stones at a man degrading women. A sin is a sin it just makes one wonder what's really going on?
+Rod Mason What's really going on is that there are married men out here who still have ties to their mothers because their mothers refuse to cut the cord because the failed to have a loving relationship and are holding their son's responsible for taking care of their emotional needs as if she was the wife. Caring more about her needs rather than the fact that her son made a choice to get married. This is a real problem that needs to be addressed. Some mothers treat their sons like they are their husbands because they failed to properly raise their sons in order for them to be a man. We need to deal with our own issues and stop carrying around our baggage and imposing our baggage on people and let people live and led their own lives.
I agree with you 100% my Queen.
His Dad did not molest him...Madea wasn't his grandmother and his Mom didn't abdandon him. This is sad.
Did anyone else watch the Oprah interview with the victim of molestation besides me? Tyler spoke very candidly about his abuse and he said about his father. If his money abandoned him why was she is biggest fan and why did he take care of her and get her a house. He says very often his mother asked him not to stop doing Mada before she died and now he says once people stop liking her he will give Made or the old broad quick death. His childhood and abuse should have broken him. The fact he has a son and a woman in his life says a lot. These supposed masc fem roles get on my nerves. Love the person for how they love God, you and who they are.
People cant take reality! Real talk makes some run
He speaking the truth, men depend on they mother, when they leave their house, they could be married and still calling on his moma, Men need to be a man, and that's taking care fo their wife and children, and provide for their family, so that a true word form him, talking about mother, back then the word was madea.God Bless the man of God.
Aren't we to preach the Gospel? The "good news" of Jesus Christ! When did the Holy Spirit become consumed with Tyler Perry's profession, success, accomplishments and financial status? Tyler Perry's name appears nowhere in the Bible, so why is he preaching about him? Why is this man putting Mr. Perry's business, struggles, abuses and misfortunes (his past) out there like that. We are to cover our brother and not broadcast their calamities and struggles. We are to pray for one another. We all have come short of God's glory. Why is the church so caught up in the things of this world? We are to build up, encourage and bear each others' burdens. No one on this planet has "arrived." God's love in us covers all things. One thing I do know is that Tyler Perry always acknowledges God in his plays and movies. Judge not, lest ye also be judged. LET GOD BE THE JUDGE... There are hurting, dying, starving people in the world who are hungry and in despair. Maybe more time could be spent trying to help make their lives better and give them the hope of the gospel, feed and cloth them. That's what Jesus would do.
You must be gay
HE IS STILL PREACHING THE TRUTH !!!
+Jackie Hill We have to remember the Serpent spoke truth to.
9 years ago and STILL relevant!! Thank God for the truth!! Alot of these men need to hear this and SO many mothers as well.
Getting rid of Madea is symbolic for another breakthrough if you don't get it then this shout ain't for you. For some people there relationship with there "Madea" is blocking their breakthrough.
The first 2min and 12 seconds is already an AMEN!!
That is one of my grandmother favorite songs.
A Long Way From Home
My grandmother is dead now as of 2/05/22. I want her to be the red carpet Joan rivers again asking what is that you're wearing. Turn around. What color is that because her cataract could see nothing but ♥️ red. Lol. I said they need to put her some red Lipstick.
She was the only red bone high yellow person saying she's dark. All my life she said we same color darkness. Ah no. She say I can't see no difference. Clear distinct shade difference. But you couldn't convince her. I said when she wore makeup the base is darker. In her mind. Her mother was darker than me and married to dad named Wesley.
A month can make a world of vision difference.
Yessssss that right marriage is of. man and women AMEN
BUT HE LOVES HIS MUM AND DAD,REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DONE
I remember watching you all the time on TBN. Years ago when you first came on. Funny remembering that right now. You use to prophesy like crazy back then. After He finds me, this is it. This I know. My Lord!
You betta preach Pastor Bryant!! Preach the Word, Preach the Word!
Reading some of the comments are funny and how we go too far into what someone is attempting to say. He made it plain, he is NOT hating on Tyler. He is using him to show, if a Man does not deal with his past, his future will not be what it needs to be. If a man doesn't cut the cord, he will always have issues. This is NOT a bashing sermon. Come on people, using your minds and listen to what is being taught.
God's hand is resting mightly and powerfully upon Pastor Jamal bryant, may God open up many doors that no man can shut and bless him beyond measure.He is in the Light Jesus Christ and darkness hides when he walks in
+africansnowqueen NO DEAR SHE'S SAYING DARKNESS CAN'T STAY AROUND AS THE PASTOR IN JESUS WHO IS THE LIGHT THAT JAMAL IS WALKING IN THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,DARKNESS TRIES TO HIDE BUT IT CAN'T BECAUSE DARKNESS WILL BE EXPOSED
Mrjoebrand23 I am not a fan of Dr Bryant. However even a broke clock is right twice a day. He is preaching the truth.
Most woman would agree with this sermon. Just do me a favor as a woman Prove The Mother Wrong. If a man step out there for you make sure the outsiders cant tell you different. And ride with your man
Preach the truth my God my God speak the truth it hurts stand up for king jesus no matter what God bless you I'm with you for God's word!!!
Crabs in a bucket!! Do you know that these are words of my grandfather, and this is at least 50 years ago. Unfortunately, it is true, Mr Perry is doing a great historical move to our so.called next level as African Americans. Let's learn to criticize each other without crushing each other, we are not anymore behind closed doors others are listening and evaluating. You are smart,use your audience to praise advancement . Thank you, AfoAmerican Vienna,Austria.
this man of god is telling the truth because it willnset yiu free ourvmen need to become real men and refue to accept roles as men in drag. we want our young men to stand up and be men they may have been abused by the men in the family or a person who was a care taker teacher preacher. we need god to heal our sons and daughters god will bless them with what they need not the tv or fim industry. keep lookinh to jesusvthe author and finisher of our faith. the truth will set you free marriage between a man and a woman and then have yor children it is goo hard to raise children wi t h fathers sharing there time with other wemen and there children baby momma drama more fun for tv to put doen gods original plan for the family thank dr jamal bryant you knew you would suffer becaise of you life with your family we are prsying for pastors to be strenghen against the attacks of the enemy.
AMEN TO THAT, SO SO SO TRUE ---- ALWAYS (SHE SHOULD BE HIS NO# 1 QUEEN, but just don't forget that (REAL, MATURE, INTELLIGENT and EDUCATED WOMEN are QUEENS too) RESPECT is EARNED not just GIVEN and RECOGNITION of a MAN is also!!!!
Good Men Marry Broken Women ALL the time. No one corrects these women about their treatment of their husbands. So what is the point?
AMEN Tony Jackson
Patrick Lewis wants u be aware whats going on so u xan recieve all ur blessing
Brilliant mind Mr. Bryant. Praying that we all make right choices it'll have life long impact on our children. No I do not want a mama's boy. And it's a lot of them out here, my God.
It is about him playing the role of an old woman who plays with God and the Scripture and not about him helping folks because he is being paid!! This is a moral issue!!
For those who didn't get the message. As The Lord, for knowledge, wisdom, an insight on this message. He said if you ask you shall received if you believe when you ask.. so ask... Love & blessings to everyone
I really need a message for women... Good sermon
He wasn't saying anything bad about Tyler Perry, He was just using the fact that people didn't respect him in Alex Cross because they are use to seeing him play Madea, I actually seen Alex Cross and enjoyed it, but everybody that talk to me about it say they don't like it cause they can't see Tyler Perry as an Action Character, but he actually did very well.
Remember high school Lit class the day we learned about "Symbolism". It is obvious that Bryant is not judging Tyler, he is merely making symbolism with the character of Madea and how so many men treat their wives based on what they saw when they were raised. Even the boys who grow up to be abusive husbands are acting out on their anger @ mom who had the "surrogate uncles" OR because they saw their mothers as weak when their fathers were abusive. Either way, his view of women is now dwarfed.
Great Message!
A real woman wants a Superman (Batman) and not a Mama's Boy!! Preeeeach!! 🙌🙋
first-Who in the bible from the beginning to the end wore pants? second- Who among us that have opinions are doing anything to bring people to Christ, help someone or their community? This man Jamal, cheated on his wife, what does the bible say about that? If wearing a dress is a sin for Tyler, while playing a role, then what is cheating? Let he without sin cast the first stone. You lead by example, not sample.
this pastor could have repented of his sins. God forgave him and then gave him instructions to preach tell it be a witness cry loud spare not peoples feelings speak what I tell you to speak. iam now a preacher, but I used to be a hoe down right nasty dirty I committed adultery fornication sex drugs and so much more, but when God saved me and delievered me I don't hold back I speak what he says
Sure he could have, even after he said if his wife did not divorce him, he would have kept cheating. I'm sure he repented when he recently quoted "the hoes ain't loyal" in his sermon. For some reason, the spirit of discernment hits me hard with him. When Jesus saved the woman from being stoned, he told her "go, and sin no more" preaching these days are more of a career than a calling. I don't know if he repented or if God spoke to him or not. What I do know is God holds him to a higher standard, if he called him and we allow the clergy too many passes. There are souls at stake, but hey- everybody isn't fighting for the kingdom.
Just finished watching Alex Cross !!!!!!loved it got it on tape !!!!!! Love Madea also !!!!!!I don't agree with this sermon 🙉🙈🙊.....Mr.Tyler Perry love him and he movies !!!!!keep going Mr. Perry !!!!! What you need to address is them Pimps in the Pulpit !!!! LoL hehe haha one says !!!! Send me your dough!!!!! Hummm camp meetings !!!!!hustlers ?!!!!! In the church
Is your mother dis-functional Mr Bryan ......only one who could play that part was...him his self !!!!!!he (Tyler Perry) lived it .....so Red Fox ...😢🙈😱🙉🙈🙊hear come the judge actor """""Flip Wilson"""".....and some of the men that acted in a dress had issues ????? And the female actress that played Yental Barbara Stristand had mother /father issues ?????just to name a few
The Bible says states if one holds a office and have been caught in a sin/disgresion /offense should not be holding it!!!!is to be set down for a while 😨😁👹🙊🙈🙉
While I do not care for most of Mr. Perry's artist offerings (plays or movies), I fail to see what Mr. Perry [himself] his to do with this "sermon"/speech. Mr. Perry is an actor. He often plays a character upon which he has built an entertainment empire. He was not good in the Alex Cross movie, not because of the Medea character, but because he is not that great of an action hero actor. Please to explain what [this one man] and what he does for work has to do with the definitions of all men? This was a weak premise upon to base a sermon. Far too often, preachers use salacious connections like these to bolster insufficient foundations for poorly constructed pontifications.
You really didn't listen to the man speak did you? I first would like to offer a disclaimer, I am not in anyway affiliated with his church nor am I an avid follower of his.
He used Tyler Perry as an example, people could not see him as Alex Cross because of Madea ( no t just because he is not a good action star) he has personified himself to women and men as Madea; even his other roles in his own movies shows reflections of her. Now this is not to diss him, just like this pastor said; but because of Tyler's past it shaped him to emulate his Grandmother aka Madea. And now this has become the very person he is now, he is Madea because he emulates his grandmother because she was the only positive force growing up in his life. Abandoned by mom, dad molested and abused him; dropped out of school. She was all there was for him essentially, then he paved his own way already molded by his main role model; who should have been his father (if he was a good man).
This was not to insult Tyler Perry but to show that brothers are out here reflecting there past and unfortunately not doing good with their wives because of it, this goes for the ladies as well. He used Tyler's story as a mirror for people to see.
People are to quick to get upset and think someone is insulting another person and before you or anyone says,"why couldn't he use the bible as a mirror or an example" Life is about evolving, the Bible is always there but they use people's lives as examples as well, you only sike yourself into believing that the lives in the Book are holier to hear about and better because you have been forced to accept that and indoctrinated in that way. We have examples everyday in our life of similar things in the Bible, almost the exact same; but we push them aside because they aren't "holy" enough to mention; or we have to be salty or "jelly" to bring up someone else's life. Tyler Perry put his life on blast as soon as he allowed the public to know it; not saying it is okay to insult the man, but if someone can teach a lesson from his life, then hey he had an impact on people.
Larry Jake #1 Mr. Perry is not Medea. He is an [actor], and Medea is a character he plays. The reverend did not need to use Mr. Perry to make this argument. HE, again, needed a "platform" from which to jump off in order to get and/or keep his congregants' attention.
#2 Concerning your assertion that, "before you (sic) or anyone says,'why couldn't he use the bible as a mirror or an example'". You did not see (and never will see) me encourage people to use examples found in the Bible to teach much of anything as it concerns how someone should live his or her life morally. The book is flawed, old, inauthentic, and disconnected to positive living at its core.
#3 People [should] use Mr. Perry's life as an example to teach others how one can come from so little to so much personal victory (and financial wealth at times also); however, he is an entertainer, and the premise of the argument here is based on the artist's offering and not his "real life". When you base your presentation on that, you are indeed insulting the man, from the side of your mouth. Based of women who raised him, yes, but Medea is not Mr. Perry. She is his most successful character AND his cash cow (pun intended).
#4 From what we all know about the Right Reverend, I can see how he could have gotten several points made about what a man "should not be" across to his audience using his [own] life.....just sayin'
casius caligula Well concerning point # 2, that was not to you necessarily but anyone who would chime in on my comment and argue that point. I really have no beef of what you say about point # 2.
Well I do understand that he more than likely mentioned Perry to draw his congregation in, but don't all pastors? That is not to justify his position but to point out that this is not really something new for that platform.
In Christianity, I rarely see pastors just stick with the Bible, they always pull from outside sources because their own people never read the Book thoroughly, but in fragments and on points they feel are more important.
As for Tyler Perry not being Madea, well personally hearing about his life coming up, I think he is Madea, at least a part of him is. I know it is a character and he is an actor but the dude had a rough past and his savior seems to be his grandmother aka Madea so if he has any issues ( which is not my problem, just making an observation) it is definitely centered around his past and his Grandmother.
The rest I don't really think I need to address; mainly because I was speaking from the point of how most Christian pastors speak, they may not all TALK about OTHERS but they do use real life scenarios and events and I guess for whatever reason he felt it was best to use Tyler Perry; as sad as it is, when people put their life on blast they set themselves up for scrutiny. Not say it is okay but, it comes with the territory.
There is not one person who is popular in this world or famous, that is not talked about or criticized. Just my two cents.
casius caligula Christians are instructed by Jesus to gather together to hear God's Word, the Bible. That's the main point of attending church, so yes, a pastor is expected to relate whatever topic he is speaking on back to biblical truth.
Our concern is always God's will, not man's philosophy.
Regardless of your personal belief about the bible, it is God's inspired Word. God remains even the atheist's Creator; such a reality doesn't "go away" simply because the atheist refuses to acknowledge its truth. Neither can your false claims against the Bible "miraculously" make it what it is not.
Therefore, I would ask that you speak specifically to what "inaccuracies" , "flaws" or "inauthenticity" you claim to see in God's Word and I will be happy to enlighten you on where your misperception likely lies. Otherwise, its pointless to throw out unsubstantiated assertions as though YOUR word is to be viewed by others on par with God's. No reasonable person, regardless of their belief system, should take that level of hubris seriously.
Spiritual truths are understood by people with God's Spirit. So, what you (or anyone else who is unspiritual) sees as "inauthentic" and "inaccurate" is simply your veiled understanding.
For it is written:
1 Corinthians 2:13-16
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct Him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.
May I dare surmise that I am more versed in Holy Scripture than you--having studied it for nearly 2 decades? I have never found one inaccuracy or contradiction, but instead find deeper and more character transforming realities as I live it out under the guidance and empowerment of the Holy Spirit. Don't always assume that your reality IS reality. Humility is the gateway to knowing God in truth.
For it is also written:
James 4:6
But He gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.”
That clarified, the long and short of it is this: Jesus is our living example and God's Holy Word and Holy Spirit our guide . . . not social commentary such as Tyler Perry's rags to riches story.
Wendie C Your [daring] summation is inappropriate because you do not know me or my study habits nor my liturgical experiences. While I do not feel the need to justify my religious studies, solely to address your point, I have studied the Bible (and many other religious books) for over (sic) twenty years.
To your point of delineating untruths, failings, and/or inaccuracies within the book, well, that conversation would be far too long and detailed to address in a mere You Tube post.
However, here are just a few small ones of MANY: #1 If Lot was the only "righteous" man in the populous of two entire cities, why did he offer his own daughters to be raped by a mob in place of two dudes he just met at his front door. What the hell? After that, he got pissy drunk, fucked and impregnated both his own daughters soon after God saved his righteous ass after having just killed all of those other people, including innocent children and babies. What the hell did the children and babies do to deserve to get burned alive?
#2 Moses and the crew did not cross the Red Sea in route to The Promise Land. A mistranslation of the Sea of Reeds stood for hundreds of years. Remember, the book was written by [man].
#3 On the first day, God said "Let there be light", but the sun was not made until the fourth day. Did he use a lamp? Oh, I've always wondered, if Jesus had a heavenly father, where was his mama? Why din't she ever get any shine? Did his dad raise him in heaven as a single parent? How did he get sole custody of the kid? I smell an affair, just saying.
#4 You don't actually believe that bull about a 600 year old man (whew, 600 yrs old, we could stop right there) built a wooden cruise ship and put every animal on the planet on it do you?
#5 Why is it o.k. to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned by the good book? Also, if I see someone working of the Sabbath, will you help me kill them? I don't want to do it by my self.
#6 The Bible that you probably revere and "study" so hard is not even complete. It even says on the cover it is just a "version" of an in complete collection of ancient writings (and recent "additions" and re-interpretations). If you really want to be spooked out and entertained, you should read some of the books the conclave left out (The Apocrypha). That shit is even more crazy, sexist, weird, and, at times, funnier than the stuff that made it in.
Thoughts?
For those 'haters' out there: have you heard of allegories. Pastor Jamal uses allegory to teach us practical issues based on the Word of God so think twice before criticizing and look at your own life first ask God for understanding.
I didn't get him talking negative about Tyler but instead speaking about the missing father & mother in his life and having to rely on his Madea to make an impact in his life. He speaks highly of Tyler and what he has done and is doing but wants the Madeas to step away from our sons and make them responsible. Will The Real Fathers Please Stand Up, Your Needed!
why do women protect Tyler Perry in and out of church i am not understanding?????
this man of God who committed adultery. ok
Have you read the Bible. It's full of men and women that didn't meet OUR standards. I would rather hear a message from someone who knows where he went wrong than someone who pretends nothing is wrong. You mentioned adultery-hmmm King David comes to mind. I recall him having a crack or two in his moral compass. How did he get Bathsheba again? Oh yeah he had her husband murdered. No one commenting here is without spot nor blemish. I'm sure the message helped the messenger just as much as the receiver of the message.
Oh, so u gonna listen to someone who knowlingly cheated on his wife as a so called man of God called to preach. Yeah, right.
Fredrick Douse Who do you listen to? Are you privy to their COMPLETE private life? Take the meat and spit out the bones. We've all made a bad choice at least once is my point - he's just more in the spotlight. I hope your mistakes aren't held against you the way you seem to hold them over him-or anyone for that matter.
+queeniethev girl you sound foolish.
Queeniethev, I'm not professing to be called by God to preach.
He supposedly is, so yes i hold him to a higher standard.
Amen so much truth. 100%
He simply used the madea dynamic as a segway to say that a woman is looking for a desiring a MAN TO BE A MAN!
In order to raise a man you first should have the father in the childs life. Too many black men abandoned there kids........I think its easy to say "Black men need to be better fathers" but it's safe to "Black women need to choose better men".
***** True but my experience has shown me that women don't all of a sudden turn into bitches for no reason. Usually the man has done something or broken some kind of promise. Let me say this....when my sons mother was mad at me I usually knew exactly why. Right wrong or indifferent a women will have a mans baby because she loves him and her desire to be loved will cloud her judgment! The direct result of that is a kid being father by a child (immature man) . It's a vicious cycle.
Tony Jackson Your situation and experience are your own.....try keeping that in mind DUDE!
Tony Jackson Never claimed to be tough, I have too many other qualities to get into a pissing match with some Cat I don't know. You chose to get into your feelings with me.....I was minding my business! Long story short, I may not be tough but I'm never afraid!
Tony Jackson Or what......?
Tony Jackson You are a regular Doctor fucking Phil.....Woman? You seem to be pretty damn emotional right now Tony Jackson! Lmao
I dated a guy (I can't call him a man) that totally dis-respected his mother in word and deed. He spoke to her like a "dude" on the street. Further, he belittled her and called her derogatory names. Needless to say, our relationship did not last very long. My motto is, if a guy doesn't treat and respect his own mother....I "ain't" got nothing coming....
I enjoyed it.. There are men that are so close to their mother that they can't allow room for a woman. I hear the Preacher saying create more balance in one's life. Nothing wrong with that.
This is stupid. Tyler Perry has played Madea in his films, yes. But I wonder if Jamal ever looked any of the interviews explaining why he plays Madea. Tyler's also played many male rolls in his films (Uncle Joe, the successful layer named Brian, not to mention the male characters in other movies that had nothing to do with Madea). So for this guy to focus on "Alex Cross", as if it's the only male, masculine character Tyler Perry's ever played is ignorant, and in fact "hating on the brother" as Jamal put it.
Madea is a bless man, Jamal need to keep his eyes on God, and he not doing no drag madea playing a role of a women, so he need to stay in his own lane, this what people do when they put other people down and do not have joy for other people, and these pastor need to stop ther mess, and stay in they lane, God Bless
Many black woman do appear to relate to Madea. Maybe because subconsciously view the elderly black woman as a man.
"... and there is no room in heaven for him lest he repent"
That is true of all sinners.
God speaks to His children all of time regardless of whether they preach sermons or sweep the floors. The difference is that some listen and others don't.
there's a lot of people like Madea
If people stop being judgemental the fact is his hands is on his life anointing falls on just and unjust
PM
He said that a man don't need to be sensitive. And how can a man be Superman???
What I find so funny is that many people who love or more than likely adore will justify or except what this man is preaching and tell others look beyond his faults because he is a man just like anybody else who sin, the bible informs me that who more is given to more is required sometimes preachers preach things that they feel that may be disgusting or have a very bad dislike for and not preaching out of love, first we must understand LOVE covers a whole multitude of faults. Number one we sin Omission and Co-mission things we do know and things we don't know so there are ton of things that can be preach about not eating healthy is a sin aka being overweight, in fact preaching like this could be a sin why because if it's not in the will of God and out of your own hatred and using God word to fit makes it a sin. People wise up have a spirit of discernment to know whats truth and when its appropriately to be taught. God bless him and I pray for him and everyone of you may the peace of God grant all us love and peace!!!!! TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!!!!!
This is interesting because I never heard before that God has said its an abomination for a man to wear women's clothes. Is it just one scripture or a combination of scriptures? I'd be grateful if you could post a reply to this comment and include the scripture citation (or citations if more than one) so I can read them in my bible. This should help us all to view our entertainment choices a little more closely. Thank you so much!
I REMEMBER THIS ONE JAMAL ,BUT AFTER THEY HAVE GOTTEN RID OF MADEA, WHOSE THE REPLACEMENT A WOMAN HIDING IN MEN CLOTHES WHO WAS BORN A MAN YET REFUSE TO STEP THE HELL UP AND DO SO?
celestine dunbar.i agree with you 100%.just seeing this .AMEN
Tyler has never said his Mother abandoned him . He respected and loved his mother, matter of fact parents til to this day. Madea is based off his mother and his aunt. Yes its been said that was he's doing is wrong. But nobody takes the time and listen to how he changed people's lives through one of his plays . Tyler gets his messages from God. I think it should be respected and not targeted .
TYLER PERRY CHARACTER represents everyone wise grandmother who always was the backbonne of broken families and he chose to put on the mask of the divine women to represent that we have both characters in us as men and that GOD IS really androygenous READ GENEsis chapter 5 verse 4 God created male and female and call THEM BOTH ADAM
Astonishing that someone in a divorce culture like this one wonders about divorce! Which man has not divorced here? At 25 some are in the third marriages???? I wish we knew what obtains elsewhere! Just so you learn, a pastor is another human doing just what he is called to do while waiting for his own reward on the last day. You have the right to follow or "unfollow" any but do not pretend to be that lone angel who would enter heaven with shoes on! May God bless you if you qualify.
halleluYah! But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them 2 Corinthians 4:3-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOOOO FIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tyler Perry was not molested by his father.
Where does his sermons come from? (i.e. I do not hear where the scriptures come from?) Or is he a motivational speaker? Just trying to gain clarification of who and what he represents.
.... A sermon is supposed to be teachings of the bible... Not hot topics on Wendy Williams.... Not everybody is called to preach... This is proof.
A man leaving his father and mother amd cleaving to his wife IS in the bible please read Genesis that is the premise of his sermon to many men hang on to mama therefore cant be the man God designed them to be
People have selective listening. He was not bashing Tyler himself. He was relating the character of a man being tied to a woman, specifically their mother. Some people need examples like this, like a parable, to see and understand the message. It's good for some people to have scripture explained practically, yet not losing sight of what the Bible is saying. The Holy Spirit will guide us. Satan is always ready to attack the Messenger (Jesus) & the messenger (pastor, Christians) & the message (Bible). The devil never wins no matter what negative comments are posted here and no matter what the world says.
He is actually doing exactly what Jesus commanded his disciple Peter to do. And when you are converted strengthen your brother. (Luke 22:32)
Many actors play different and conflicting roles. So is he attempting to say that if you act in one role you can not act in another. Then what about the other actors? Can you only act in one role? That's Nonsense!
Nobody should leave their moms unless she's violent
Ecclesiastes 10:1, as dead flies give perfume a bad smell, so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor.
I think Tyler Perry is awsome and His character as Madea. I also see the point Pastor Jamals is making.
truth is truth and people are not standing for it anymore and the bible said in last days they will believe a lie instead of truth
paw paw the great amen truth hurts
paw paw the great amen
Jamal should be in a University not a pulpit. He may be a good teacher but that's where it ends. Oh, and be sure to order his CD. For Jamal the word of God is obviously for sale! Jesus captivated hi followers, This pastor could put 5,000 people to sleep!
Agreeing with john b. Walker, it's funny how with everything the pastor said,we heard Tyler perry only. He's speaking of ALL men...
No matter how you feel or what you think -God said its and abomination for a man to put on a womens garment and your ideas or thoughts doesnt matter when the word is displayed. Tyler has to repent for his sins as playing this role or Tyler will find his self in HELL also. You can preach all ur love messages all u want but the same God who is a God of love is also a God of war. remember that! pastor henri