What do Rammstein fans think about the allegations against Till Lindemann?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2023
- Rammstein held their first concert since lead singer Till Lindemann was accused of sexual misconduct. Here's how fans reacted to the allegations:
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Considering how many FALSE accusations have been made against rock stars, it would be absolutely ridiculous to approach this as anything BUT innocent until proven guilty
Its starting to look pretty bad now since the band isnt even backing till
@@army2207They've stayed neutral and only one has given their thought on the matter.
Can you give examples? I don't know about that many (wrong) accusations against rock stars
Yep,definitely another hit job.
@@nickyg7557Marilyn Mason.
This is so disappointing if true.
Yes ..thats a whole other animal
Aye if it's true i'd be heartbroken, grew up around rammstein
accusations have many holes, one "raped" girl was cough already drunk af at a concrt way before afterparty (yes, of course with such huge crowd ppl who gave drinks knew who to spike. sure). Everything shows he is not guily for now
As some of you have already commented, the probe against Lindemann has been dropped by Berlin's state prosecutor. Please refer to this article for more information: www.dw.com/en/rammstein-till-lindemann-sexual-assault-probe-dropped/a-66659906
I stay with rammstein
Yeah it doesn't take 20 years. I went to court a year after.
I still haven't heard any real allegation. All I've heard is " he asked me I refused" and "I felt dizzy but I didn't meet him". Like .... Wtf?
I stay with Rammstein and nothing can change my mind
I'm a fan, and I'm not buying it. We'll see, however. When the charges against Manson popped up I thought, Yeah. That makes some sense. But I don't feel that this man needs to drug girls at his show to score. If one declines your generous offer then I'm willing to bet that creates a vacuum that would be easily fill at a show with 10s of thousands of girls whom are there to see YOU.
According to the accusations he seeks his sexuall thrill through his power he has over his girls. So a woman who willingly sleeps with him does not give him the same thrill as to sleep with a girl he gaslit or numbed so that they sleep with him
That's what I thought initially, but not only "nicky" below has a point (and beat me to the comment :P), there's also that 2020 "poem", and Schneider's comments. Also, Till knows he's no spring chicken, I bet most women don't mind that he doesn't look as he did 20 years ago, but his ego might think that when they say "no" that's them thinking he's gross or whatever. I'm torn on this one. My heart is breaking because as a fan of the band for over 2 decades, I don't think they're gonna survive this ordeal. no matter the outcome.
D':
@@nickyg7557than the drugging makes no sense does it
@@sburker32wow.. you proved a good point. Though this case already been closed.. I didn’t think before hand what you said.
Why drug them when he seeks the thrill of being told no. Drugged women can’t say no. It’s all contradicting.
Diese 'Fans' die ohne Beweise Rammstein sofort canceln ..sollen sich verpissen. Heult niemand ne Träne nach.
Ohne Beweise vielleicht, aber ohne Misstrauen ganz sicher nicht. Es gab schon in frühen Zeiten krasse Geschichten zu denen.
@@captainvaughn5692 Ja aber sowas kann auch toxisches verhalten sein.
Misstrauen rechtfertigt dennoch nicht jemanden zu canceln. Ist ja wie damals in der Schule. Irgendwelche Bullys lästern und alle glauben es und meiden dich. Man glaubt nur was man möchte.
@@captainvaughn5692jetzt bin ich aber gsspannt. Was für krasse Geschichten aus vergangenen Tagen meinst du denn? 🤔
Also mal abgesehen von den Missbrauchsvorwürfen würde ich generell keinen Künstler supporten welcher so misogyn und sexistisch ist. Ich hab mir einige Interviews mit dem Mann angeschaut und die meisten finde ich persönlicher unter aller Gürtellinie...von daher ist es mir auch ziemlich egal ob die Gerüchte stimmen oder nicht. So jemanden möchte ich eben nicht sehen. Und die die sich jetzt dazu entscheiden sie nicht mehr sehen zu wollen sollen es doch tun. Man kann seine Meinungen und Geschmäcker bezüglich Sängern oder Bands auch ändern. Aus welchen Gründen auch immer
@@nickyg7557 misogyn und sexistisch? Till ist weder noch ^^
I’d see Rammstein if they came to Nampa, Idaho. We have an outdoor arena and I’d gladly pay to see them perform. 😊
It's inncoent until proven guilty so at present, it shouldnt matter.
Fake accusations, she just wants to be famous
They never claimed rape, just that his sex wasn’t “comfortable”. Who cares?!
A few have but there's video footage of them at the after show things were it's clear that nothing happened.
@@abefroman3466 How so? Put your emotions away, this is a feed for people who use logic
@@abefroman3466no. Your are!
Considering how many times allegations are proved to be false, i ain't believing shit unless they have concrete evidence
for me this changes nothing I'm still keeping my tickets for there American tour.
wait what american tour? theres going to be another one or are you talking about the one in 2022?
@@alexeysolovyev9498 oh sorry typo I meant European tour.
The accuser is a liar.
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How do you know it, genius
@@nocomment5398Video evidence that nothing happened
@@nocomment5398there is no evidence 😂
@@jasbelial3943 no evidence doesn't mean she's a liar Einstein.
The accuser's own friend has publicly denied her version of events. Theres a footage of her having a GREAT time after supposedly being "spiked"
Las denuncias se hacen a la policía, y de ser sentenciados culpables deberán pagar.
Las denuncias hechas en Twitter son para buscar fama y lo más probable es que sea falso.
YES! I'd still go! #Tillisinnocent
Sonst hat man immer vor "Vorverurteilung" gewarnt. Natürlich gilt die Unschuldsvermutung.
I don't believe it. I'll always stay with Rammstein. Rockers go thru this kind of stuff sometimes.
They never been accused for as long as i know them . I think this is just a person who wants attention . And if this person is false it's time they give the same punishment they would to a guilty person . Then these type of things will slow down a bit .
RAMMSTEIN FOREVER! TILL DIE BESTE SINGER!
Ja!!
Yes. Rammstein für immer!
What is the accusation exactly? That he asked a woman to sleep with him, she said no, and then they parted ways?
Rather that he abused them sexually and in some cases numbed them with KO drops
she also said he put something in her drink...I don't believe her
A girl was at a Rammstein afterparty. Till asked for sex, she said no. He walked away. She claimed to be drugged but the drug test tested negative. I honestly don't know why people don't look into the story more
@@anzu_slNot only that but there's literally a video of her at the party were he leaves and she stays.
It's called Absurd and we all have to stand with Till otherwise there is possibility that the band will be cancelled because of that crazy b..tch just as it happened with Marlin Manson.
I stand with Rammstein.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Ja, ich war letzte Woche auf dem Konzert und im November werde ich Tills Solo-Tour besuchen 😊
Yes, last week, I went to the concert and this November I am going to visit Till's solo tour 😊
Funny enough, i could ve told by their appearence who was and wasnt against till
I said an thought the same thing.
What breaks my heart is Schneider's position, which felt like the band's "safe-face" statement and unspoken position. He pretty much threw him under the bus. After almost 30 years.... WOW!
😢
Criminal investigation found nothing that supports the accusations. Sad to drag a known star through the mud esp his name and his band.
Wenn eine Frau Vorwürfe macht ist es schon heftig, aber mehrere.
Und alle koenen nicht spezifizieren wer und was
@@rawgab4439 ?
I don't believe the lies.. her story has been picked apart and so many errors have been exposed
music is music peaple is people
Yeah, exactly it's not our business
Leave Rammstein alone let them do what there destined to do which is entertain their fans.
if it’s false good if it’s true I’ll still listen because I enjoy the music not guilty until proven
Stand With Rammstein.
I'd still go!!!
It doesn't matter to me whether they did that. It's not my business and has nothing to do with their music. Aside from the fact their lyrics are also quite sexually violent at times xd
I love them regardless and I find it hypocrite to condemn these beasts for any of those actions.
Espero que sea mentira , el no necesitaba hacer eso , si lo hizo pues ni modo tendrá que pagar las consecuencias 😔
With out a doubt! I would always support a talented musician . Especially when you never know if all the background noise is true
Yes. Till is innocent ! Like Manson. Why would he need to drug anyone. ? He could have whomever willingly. Rediculous.
Would really like to see the skeletons in the closet for all those that immediately morally grandstand other people.
Why is it always a certain looking type of women who says things like that 😢 "associated with that yada yada" jfc. Critical thinking left the chat.
Wow they even interviewed Brad Pitt
Team Till❤
He's not been charged with anything and not been on trial, but go ahead, sell your tickets, in public and on camera. Did you get the attention you so desperately needed?
Last one looks like female mr bean
Lol yeah. And the guy in the red flannel looked like David Arquette
@@rolanddeschain9139 😂😂😂😂
The way I see it, is that these girls pretend to be stupid when it comes to row 0. Everybody knows what goes on behind the scenes with these row 0 groupies! I totally stand with Rammstein!
All of this started because of a very immature selfish lying girl thought it would be clever to make baseless allegations against the band when she didn't get her own way, she was drunk and obviously thinks she's very important and no one is allowed to say no to her otherwise she will lie and act very childish and pathetic.
He didnt do anything to her so idc
As a huge fan of Rammstein, I know what he is, I don't deny it. I just don't care as I dont have very high moral values
Ikrrr even if he did that we forgive him since he's a bass. If a tenor was in this situation I would only be happy about his suffering, no matter if the accusations were true or not
lol
Well, at least you're honest. Are you from the Netherlands?
@@scooterbob1408 no. I'm french and I'm a woman. Of course if I was the victim I would not have the same point of wiew but the fact is that I tend to occult what does not affect me or my kid directly. And if I was the victim nobody would care then why should I
@@Iloveavitodeath I don't forgive anything I just don't care until it affects me personally
Not guilty 😎👍🏻
❤ #isupporttill 💋 #rammstein4life
Till was innocent
I believe in the justice system , unlike americans.
OK now, did someone choose these fans to appear in the video, or are Germans really THAT good looking? :O Or is it just Rammstein's fans?
So I hate to say this even though they have done a lot like what I'm about to say, after I've seen his side projects I'm honestly not suprised women are come out like that real or false. I hate it though because their does seem to be a rift in their chemistry now.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community.
Die Unschuldsvermutung gilt von den Beschuldigten und nicht für denjenigen, der die Anschuldigungen erhebt.
Du kennst dich offensichtlich nicht mit dem Rechtssystem aus. Denn ein vermeintliches Opfer muss als solches behandelt werden, bis ein Urteil gefällt wird. Alles andere ist Verleumdung. Jeder der sagt Unschuldsvermutung, verleudmet gleichzeitig Opfer. Der Begriff für die Unschuldsvermutung heißt für Opfer nur anders. Also lass dein heuschlerischen bullshit stecken. #doppelmoral #whataboutism
The music is awesome, we will see........you know........young people might be in a weaker position at parties with sex and drugs and the band in a powerpostion even if they are not aware of this, so maybe things happened that were very wrong, but lets wait what the judge actually finds and decides, but Rammstein rocks musicwise ! Who knows what happened on parties from The Rolling Stones or The Beatles and so on, these are dangerous positions.
Ofc
The guy is so bent it’s amazing he has gotten this far in life
Als ob die 2 Feministen aufs Konzert wollten. Die wollten nur Stimmung machen, das ist so lächerlich... Und jeder durchschaut es. 😅😅😅
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Rockstar expects sex from "groupie" who is high on his drugs and booze she says no coked-up rockstar gets upset they part ways is this really a story so dull.
🤘🔥🧨
Germans… smarter than us Americans.
No
Ramm.
Stein.
Not the prettiest of "kultures"
Just because one likes the music it does not mean one has to like the artist.
If the allegations are true, then I will no longer personally like Lindemann, however it does not mean I have to dislike rammstein and lindemanns music. That is at least the way I see it, and of course, the entire ordeal is rather sad for everyone around, "victims" and rammstein crew.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We understand that it can be difficult when your love for their music is challenged. Sending you all the best
Nein, macht keinen Spass mehr.
Es ist überhaupt noch nichts nachgewiesen...
@@svensantesson2020 was heißt nicht nachgewiesen, wenn so viele frauen detailliert und unabhängig voneinander unter eidschwur darüber berichten was da passiert ist, dann kann man schon vermuten dass da einiges schief läuft. Strafrechtlich gilt natürlich zurecht die Unschuldsvermutung.
@@irgendeinname9256 "dann kann man schon vermuten, dass da einiges schief läuft." Exakt. Man kann es vermuten, aber bewiesen ist es noch nicht.
@@svensantesson2020 ja und wenn man das vermuten kann dann ist es meiner Meinung nach auch richtig Kritik zu äußern. Es trotz der ganzen Hinweise einfach zu ignorieren ist falsch. Ob die Beweise oder Aussagen für strafrechtliche Folgen ausreichen spielt nur vor Gericht eine rolle
@@irgendeinname9256 Meiner Meinung nach eben nicht, auch wenn ich die Leute verstehe, die das tun.
Ich habe es nicht ignoriert, sondern will dafür nur sensibilisieren, da viele auf Rammstein rumhacken, obwohl noch NICHTS BEWIESEN ist.
Women☕️
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A side topic: Rammstein musically SUCKS. Why is no one talking about THAT!
Könnte auch ne PR-Kampagne sein, würd mich schon interessieren, ob die da ihre Finger drin hatten.
Ganz sicher nicht. So ein shitstorm kann karrieren beenden
@@irgendeinname9256 Für mich is die Band nen Shitstorm. ;)
I guess they are not coming back to Lithuania. 😢
Die Fiktion ist durch eine fiktive Realität vergiftet. Ich kann nicht mehr zu Rammstein. Alles ist jetzt belastet 😂.
Nope
It’s funny how the lady that isn’t gonna go had that same haircut as those Karen’s lmaoooo
Remains to be seen. They don’t come to many other continents, but what I will say is the optics are not in Till’s side.
Wer ist sie
Ich bin der Meinung ich mag rammstein die Musik viele Künstler Sänger waren ein Arschloch mir geht's nunmal um die Musik jedoch ohne Beweise keine tat
ABSOLUTELY !!
Innocent until proven guilty.
If proven guilty i wont support him
YES
Yes of course. RAMMSTEIN🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼🔥
No
YES