what is the DIFFERENCE between the most recent Yonex Ezone 98s?!
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#yonextennis #ezone98 #ezone
0:00 - Intro
1:30 - Power/Spin
2:20 - Stability
3:23 - Maneuverability
4:38 - Comfort
5:37 Afterthotts 
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One of the things I did notice when one of my friends switched from the 2020 to the 2022 was that they had a lot more spin compared to the 2020 model
I'd bet the 2018 comfort is due to frame stress over time. I picked up new rackets with the same stiffness rating as my old but couldn't believe the amount of wrist pain using the same string. Had to string it much lower and am waiting for the frame to "soften."
Hey, cool compersion, thank you so much. I would love to hear what type of strings you were using? thank you agian
Interesting on the maneuverability point. I switched from the Dunlop CX 200 Tour in part because I felt I got a lot more power and maneuverability together while maintaining most of the control.
I hace the cx200 tour. With luxilon i love it
Just wanted to add that with my 98 2022, i swapped out the yonex stock grip with a head hydrosorb (I got too small a grip size anyway) and it helped a bit with the hand pain issue. So if you could stand to go up a half size, a more cushioned grip is a decent fix. Otherwise, I'd say this is a fairly comfortable and elbow-friendly racquet.
Did you still have arm issues?
Enjoy the unbiased reviews. I'm looking at moving to the ezone 2022 from a heavily customized 2006 Pure Drive Cortex (not going to bother trying to find these anymore).
I would be curious if stringing at a lower tension would improve comfort. I hope so. My PD is weighted up to about 345g swing weight but I still don't have any pain. Problem is that while it was once a stiff frame, who knows where it is now 🤷
I think the thicker beam width on the ezone 22 may account for both it's increased stability and it's worse maneuverability. Sucks. But most of the time I find stability and and maneuverability inversely correlated. 😵💫
Why did Yonex discontinue Ai98 or Dr98 fantastic racquets. Super comfortable, good power, feel etc.... ALSO have you tested the VCore Pro 97 (310g) or TF40 16 x19 (305g)?
Hey! Is hyper G + vanquish ka good combination for wilson blade V8 16*19?
Good work and honest breakdown assessments. Is that me or everyone else felt the same on 2020 zone DR 100. The balls which I hitting is flying off from the baseline. I have turn racket face more downward to keeping in the court . After 3 hours playing. I get soreness elbow pain shoulder pain. I not over hitting. The power racket is good. But what and why reasons it happens?. I string at around 52 lbs on a poly and gut together. Can you help or explains the reason. Thanks.
I only played with the 2020 version but i have to agree. I really loved the stick and it was a real love story for the first few weeks/months. But it turned out quickly that I had really strong forearm and shoulder pains after every single session (usually the next day). It felt like i had a big musle contraction in my forearm for like 4 to 5 days after each session! And with some harder balls (like the wilson roland garos), i even could feel the pain after hitting for 10mn) It was really unpleasantly surprising to me as I had been playing for more than 20 years at a really decent level (6 USTA) and I had never been sensitive to any racket so far no matter how heavy and firm it was. I'm training way way less since i turned 30 so i first told myself I was getting old and I tried to lower the tension and use softer polies but the pain kept coming. It was so painful that I couldn't play normaly two days in a row.
After reading i was not the only one I finaly decided to switch racket and everything has gone perfectly fine since then. Sad cause as I said i really loved that racket A LOT and how it played. I also played very well with it but for less than 1H and once a week lol. I was willing to try the new version but I'm not going to after what you said about it...
You do a very good job with the review btw. Keep going! Cheers.
I switched to ezone 98 - 2020 version - and found arm pain as well...
I had almost the exact same experience. Best stick I've ever played with, could not miss a shot no matter how off-center....for the first 8-10 hours. Then it killed my arm and shoulder (right and left). Switched to CX200, no issues.
What is your racket of choice now ?
@@Le-Chuck Ended up playing with the 2022 ezone. It doesn't hurt my arm like the previous one did and the feel is close.
@@morganemarimot5972 cool to read that. What string do you use on it ? And have you compared it to the vcore 98 21 ?
Hello Mark! Thanks for the vid. I have a Ezone 100 DR 285, that I might send to you. :-) As for the later Ezones, I played with the 2018 version (100 sqin 300 g), and now I am playing with the 2020 version. The 2022 version I am not really planning to try. I know that you have been testing the 98 version, but I do not have insight on those. As for the 100 version I like the 2020 more, it feels more powerful, and more stable. I really do not have any arm issue with that racquet. To be exact, I tried with a leather base grip, with a Super Grap overip first, but I did not like the sound, plus I had slight discomfort in my arm, especially on off center shots. The leather grip also started to give blisters even through the overgrip. After that I put a Head Hydrosorb Pro base grip, with a Babolat VS overgrip, and now it really plays and sounds nicely. I am using the racquet with Poly Tour Fire 1.20 mm string at 49 pounds. I really enjoy this config. Apart from the Head Hydrosorb, the racquet is stock, no weight added.
I changed from a Ezone 100 2020 to the DR 98 310g, it's a great racket!
Any chance you’ll try out the original 98 yonex regna?
I have tried or owned every version of the Ezone since the release of the AI. I think you are very accurate on your assessment. This is why I still use the ai 98 instead of switching. As far as the DR goes. I think you will be disappointed. It has the smallest sweet spot of all of them all. I would put it as my 2nd least favorite of them all.
How would you rank them? 🤔
I play the Ezone AI 98 (Osaka's racket), but have the original XI (Kyrgios), AI, and DR - all are all excellent. The XI has a slightly different shape and is a bit sharper/brassier with a fairly direct feel. This is probably my favorite overall when I'm at 100%, but I've had wrist issues and I feel it just a tad when playing days on end. These are also hard to come by anymore and are pretty expensive on the secondary market. The DR is a bit plusher and is certainly worthy of its great reputation. It too can be expensive, but are a bit easier to find. However, the hidden gem really is the AI, as it is a great mix of the XI and DR; no discomfort, great feel, and not overly plush. A few years ago I picked up several at well under $100 per stick, and still seem them under $100 from time to time. All great options when you can find them. As for stringing, these rackets all respond nicely to a range of strings. I used to play Kirschbaum Proline II rough, Wilson Revolve Twist, or Confidential at 54, but have recently been playing a lot with Hyper G at 46. I've been surprised how well the rackets respond with both setups. The AI with Hyper G at 46lbs can be seen at the 11:00min mark at ruclips.net/video/A0EENjt9OGQ/видео.html (hitting with Winston), and the rest of the vid is Revolve at 54.
Also, while I'm not looking to sell anything, if you'd like to playtest these older-gen Ezones, drop me a line and you're welcome to borrow them for a bit
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Play with xi98 great racket
Wow, thought the Ai was plusher than the Dr, according to TW reviews. I’ve read someone even calling the Ai a noodle for how soft. Which would you say has a higher twist weight? Which is more polarized?
Nice, would you want a dr 285 shipped from Europe?
Hello Mark. The same weight, bal, and sw, yet different movement through the air must be the weight dist of the graphite. Twist weight and polarization also help see what’s going on. I bet they also combine different stiffness graphites. From your review, it sounds like the ‘18 has more graphite at 10 and 2…and the ‘20 and ‘22, more equally distributed around the hoop
My 2018 had higher swingweight than my 2020 and was also, at the same time, quicker through the air. Agree on the torsional stability tho.
I also hit a way meaner ball with the 2018, both flat and spinny worked better. 2020 felt more forgiving but lacked the reactiveness and spin of the 2018. (Same string, same tension).
For my game obviously.
Please list all racket tat u think...they are really arm friendly..volkl,prince,prokenex, dunlop,techni xt1..thank U
Hi Mark, good review again. I love your stringing videos and reviews. Was wondering if you can please review wilson revolve 17 orange? Thanks 😊
Ill try and do the 16g. I try to do 16g if available for consistency.
@@MarkSansait Second the review for Wilson Revolve! It's my string of choice and I'm really curious what you think about it. Going to test the Ezone 98 2022 next week really curious if I'll have the same findings.
I have only tested the 2020 & 2022 and I would disagree with most of your opinion. The 2020 felt worse on my wrist, had more power and worse maneuverability. I felt that 2022 was softer, less power and more control and easier to swing from the baseline. The only aspect that I didn't like for the 2022 was the volley. Not stable enough
Thanks for your input! Was it the same string and same tension between the 2020 and 2022?
@@MarkSansait I asked tennis warehouse and they told me that both had yonex poly tour rev 16L @ 51 pounds.
I had the dr98 that gave me strong wristle pain. I had the 2020, thé stiffness gave me forearm pain... I just tried the 2022 but feared...
Gone with the blade 98 and 98s...
I agree about the discomfort. I have the 2020 with head lynx tour 16 at 55. Yes it’s a stiff setup but Iv used this string and tension on several other racquets before and after, and the ezone 2020 was the only racquet that gave me pain in the wrist upon impact. I think this happens when swinging big and driving a flat ball. Players who don’t drive the balls as much don’t feel the discomfort with this racquet I suspect.
Can u do me a favor and demo the 2020 and see if you get the same thing? really curious on your experience
Hey, I have arm pain with 2020 version as well!!!
Hey mark i have dr98 285g that can be customized to suit your weight preference. I would like to trade for a different racket... or anyone?
The only Ezone 98 I tried was the 2020 version. I liked the frame and felt it is good for customizing. I did not have any comfort issues. I passed on the frame because I did not want to go through the customization process. Sadly, this is the only yonex frame I have tried. I should demo others. Great content!
AND I HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT AND TESTED EACH OF THESE VERSIONS MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO, ALL STRETCHED. WHEN I COMPARE THEM WITH THE EZONE 98 DR PLUS, I SOLD IT AT THE SAME TIME BEFORE I HAD ANY SCRATCH ON THE PAINT
I play with the Ezone 98 2020 and got a pain in the forehand, it's a shame because i love this racquet.
In all honesty this is an AMAZING racket except for the pain and manueverability
No problem at all with the 2022 version. One day I played 3.5 hours without any pain in mine arm. I also think it’s extremely easy to swing both on forehand and one hand backhand. I’m 60 years old, good shape and 4.5 player.
I actually strongly disagree with the maneuverability department. I switched to the Ezone 98 2022 put 9g of lead onto it and the maneuverability is awesome. Especially during the winter months we play on extremely fast carpets here in Germany. This racket helped me a lot.
Comfort department is another thing haha. I switched especially to the 2022 because I had problems with my wrist for several years. After the switch: nothing. I was never before that healthy
i have played with the 2020 version and the 2022 version since they both came out. i’ve had no arm problems with either as i train at the gym but i play slightly better with the 2022
I got an Ezone Tour 2022 for testing (bought it barely used, did not want a demo). I am actually used to heavy racquets, my Wilson Blade is beefed up to 350g strung.
But the Ezone Tour is already a monster when stock, it is head heavy AF. So I added a leather grip to counter the weight, works quite well now, but still quite a beast.
Manoeverability is still bad though, touch is even worse, even without a dampener.
But power, spin and control are very well balanced and at high level each.
Top frame if you know what you are doing. Without "Tour" still an extremely well rounded allround racquet.
do a head radical pro, demo the racquet to save cost.
Mark.....you forgot the original DR98...thanks for the comment at the introduction....glad to hear you are listening....unfortunately I don't have one to spare.....all the way from England
Hows ur Wimby bracket doin, mate?
Mark it's doing alright mate.
+1 on 2022 EZONE wrist pain
Wow
2022 feels very hard to swing and maneuver, more comfort, more control, stable. 2018 feels awfully
I def like the 2018 out of all the 3
@@MarkSansait I think there's always players who like the previous version because there's no "those techs" involved, more classic~ I can't quite remember but 2018 seems more solid, maybe
I used to use the DR98 loved it, but being silly and a tennis nerd I sold it to get another frame (which in end didn't suit).
Anyway since DR98 I tried the 2018 didn't mind it but felt needed weight and the 310g of DR was nice.
2020 I bought and just couldn't gel, felt like control or consistency of stringbed was bit erratic.
2022 I tried 98 and 100 and ended up with the 100 but added leather grip and 4g lead at 12pm....for me personally this is great feeling frame.
But on the 2022 98 I do think its first one since the DR that I could say I really liked and could gel with, more consistent stringbed to that of the 2020 and more stable than the 2018.
So for the Ezone 98s...I would rate them DR98 then 2022, then 2018, then 2020.
So now I use customised 2022 Ezone 100 for singles and doubles always fall back to my trusty Tenx Xcalibre 315g which I've used for few years now and is just so nice for net play (for me).
your string & tension recommendation for 98 ?
@@akbarberlian 50lbs I use with Hyper G
Heard Osaka switched to the newest version
Please a review in prostaff v13
Never had any wrist issues with the 2020
Does the balls staying in the court ?. My flying off to the fence unless I close more on my racket face . Keep us updates if you start getting soreness and pains monthly down the road. Then you be joining out ours group aches and pains.
Now I wondered why I felt arm pain after 4 months playing 2020 version...
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I agree with you same here. 😢
2018 loved it great spin and ground strokes but within 10 minutes hand and arm pain. 2020 no control hard to keep the ball in court the tour was better. 2022 I liked it a lot, I thought much better than DR 98 which lacked in the spin department. 2020 and 2022 and DR no hand or arm pain 😜
Did you try any of the extended ezones?
I wanna try an extended racquet so bad and the ezones have the best control out of the extended racquets on market.
even though I am a manlet stature at 5'9 i havent played with any extended frames ever... except for the Prince Diablo midplus (27.25 inches I believe).
Wow we differ on 2 points,
1. Maneuverability was excellent for me never late on my shots.
2. Very arm friendly zero pain in wrist or hand but ive just strarted using it you had pain after 2 months so will wait and see.
I think string choice helps, im using Wilson revolve 17g graet soft plush feeling...
I’ve all those frames, about comfort personally I’ve the opposite problem of the vast majority of players, more the racket is lighter more pain I’ll have on elbow and shoulder, so with the ezone 98 tour 2022 (315gr and tension 53/51) I don’t have problems at all. I start to have problems with tension above 53. I disagree with you about volley, maybe you are using 300 gr version, with the tour are very stable and easy to control. About the baseline groundstrokes I guess it’s a question of swing with a very open swing you will get out the best, some problem more with short swing, however this attitude is present in all the versions.
Imma be honest, I don't really know what's so special about the dr98. Especially when compared to the other ezones.
Can you please do a review of the Wilson Pro Staff V13 315g ? Thanks great content!
Just sold that racquet, great feel and control, launch angle not high when comparing to other 16x19.
The downside is the sweetspot, its the size of a coin, so hard to hit deep when defending, couldnt play my best tennis with it specially since I play mostly on clay. Using the new radical mp with lead, 10x better
@@LaSalviaBodysurf What level are you? If you play on clay you must prioritize topspin. I do agree that its a low powered frame but if you have good tennis level and physical condition you can get the best out of it. Players who play well with it are very skilled, as its more demanding and often high level 5.0 and above.
@@Amadeus8094 im around 5.0. Im 30yo played tennis all my life and I consider myself pretty fit, im only 5´7 tho. But like I said, its a good racquet but I find it hard to believe someone can play his best tennis with it, it feels very good just hitting when you are standing still, but when playing a set and getting pushed around specially on clay, the racquet doesnt help.
For me the Radical has great feel and much bigger sweetspot without sacrificing that much control. Still worth a try, I didnt sell my prostaff, probably going to keep it to play around, but its not my tournament racquet anymore, cheers!
btw, if you like wilson, I found the new blade98 v8 much better than the prostaff, its just easier to play good tennis with it :)
@@LaSalviaBodysurf What do you think of the 100 inch Pro Staff, the Wilson Pro Staff Six One 100 v13 305 grams. Link: ruclips.net/video/mVluxlahsTQ/видео.html
Crippling pain yet comfortable.
I mean.... yeah
@@MarkSansait sounds like my 1st marriage.
The characteristics of these racquets are determined by a few things, such as swingweight, balance point, total weight, twist weight (inertia around its axis). Manufacturers play around with these year on year to achieve different goals and the marketing kicks into overdrive. If you go into these specs a bit more Even only for yourself you would find common themes and it would make it easier to problem solve and choose future racquets.
Totally agree, except you missed out the layup changes. Crucially, there were significant layup changes (stiffer) from Ai to DR and even more changes from DR to 2018. That's where the injuries started to happen. The Ezone line went from being a highly recommended racquet for TE sufferers to one which started to actually cause TE. And that's when I decided to bid farewell to Yonex.
@@a2casius Good point. This is one important variable I left out
ebay has DR FOR SALE
I gotta start looking for these DRs in all types of websites.
The only thing I'd doisagree on is the comfort & some of the spin on the 2020, obviously comfort is subjective, we're all built different and all have different bodies & pains, thankfully I never had any discomfort from the 2020 and after some thought (And rumours of the 2024 being a repainted 2022) I'm going to head back to some 2020s and go from there, as for spin, the slice on 2020 was great for me, topspin, not so much, but I'm a flatty so it suited me well - and looks the best!
I'm glad I'm not the onylyone thinking the 2022 feels slow through the air. I always find myself hitting late and I see everyone saying it's so fast and stuffs but it feels the opposit to me. I fell much more comfortable with my old blx blade and its 330sw which is quite surprising because i have a rather whippy forehand with a lot of wrist action.
The 2002 version was much more manoeuvrable though the frames play really similar. If anyone knows why I would be very interested.
i have 4 racquets yonex ezone 98 dr plus, it´s AMAZING A LOT OF ALL STROKES IN THE TENNIS GAME
The latest one has crap feel. I get lost in the mushyness of it. Fine beginner racket.
Are we sure Uncle Ben said that??
yes WE are sure
I DON'T SELL THEM FOR ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD
None will compare to the DR
Supot
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Hi Mark. I have 2 DR98 (grip size 4 3/8)but I don’t have your gmail. Contact me if you are interested and we can figure something out. Great channel!