Miss the old day's of sport journalism when it wasn't 90% bullshit and tmz driven bullshit. Every single team has players that do not get along. Only in vancouver does it get completely overblown and sensationalised
Wasn’t it Allvin? Sportsnet: You do have an out on that contract because Pettersson’s trade protection doesn’t start until next season. But is moving your 26-year-old star actually possible? Allvin (smiling): Well, you know Jim's history. We want to build a team that sets us up for long-term success. Building around the long-term deals with Miller and Petey, having Quinn and Demko locked up, Filip Hronek and Jake DeBrusk, I mean, those are big pieces. Petey has shown up to this point that he is an extremely talented, quality player that could and should be a No. 1 centre. I believe in him. I believe that he's capable. (But) he needs to mature and understand that there are certain expectations and it does not get easier. And you need to face the music when things don't go well. Is it (a trade) possible? I guess I would say anything is possible. This fire was started from INSIDE the organization, now everyone is telling the media to settle down and stop fanning the flames.
so its their job to create and report rumors/speculation that makes it an industry. be worried the day no media are around to report or address the issues
I have a trade proposal for fun here. The Canucks trade Pettersson to the Islanders for another center Matt Barzal who's from Vancouver and Noah Dobson
Vancouver needs to trade forward Elias Pettersson, ASAP! NOW! They may still be able to make the playoffs! Anything is better than keeping him! A few draft picks from Boston.
I feel like any trade involving Miller or Pettersson would be a lose-lose situation for Canucks. Miller has a NMC, so this is Kesler 2.0 and will limit trading partners. As for Petey, his value is not at an all-time high especially after that last playoff performance and the nagging injury. It's really unfortunate these 2 guys can't get along. Having two 100+ pt Cs are what contenders dream of.
i doubt any trade happens. Both miller and petey are too good, and no reason to trade them. Plenty of teams have players that dont like each other but play, it happens in all sports. Its just the Vancouver media are always trying to dig something up when there isn't much there. Even Pettersson has said if he plays better and the teams wins, all this stuff just goes away. He wants to be in Vancouver, and I hate to see him get traded.
Didn't this #1 insider say on tv on the weekend: one of three possibilities might occur: neither gets moved, one gets moved or both get moved. Then went on to say effectively either something will happen or nothing will happen. Earning your salary there Elliotte. How this guy has the gall to say anything is beyond me. Mr "I think" proves he's not an insider but speaks on rumour and speculation.
Remember a few years ago when Friedman said Miller was going to get traded to Islanders. He also iindicated Miller wanted out of Vancouver. There was no trade and Miller signed an extension!! Friedman was wrong!!
Pettersson is a princess. He cannot fit just anywhere. JT is the better bet to keep. But regardless, the nucks are going to fall back unless they can pull off what the Caps have done.
Yes. The Caps have Ovechkin and Tom Wilson, who run people over and can score too. That`s what makes success in the playoffs. Who cares about players with100 point seasons who coast ?
I love it how every podcast media show knows the noise is most likely hurting this club yet every dam show keeps making shows about it ffs. It's like you guy's know the players are watching and you know this will just keep kicking them down... MOVE ON ALREADY
Not gonna happen, and the fact we're here leaving comments is why. Media hasn't ever cared about how their insider, and unnamed sources, stories affect the teams, players, gm, coach, etc. It's all about generating revenue from clicks.
At least he said something truthful. To trade Petey or Milsy would mean a center coming back that won't tank the team. On top of that they need a defenseman that can fix the real problem which is the "big man defense aka the bottom 4" have been lousy. The chances of the Canucks making a trade that involves Milsy or Petey is about as close to zero as you can get. The real story that is under reported is the fact that Boeser hasn't got a new deal, so they are waiting to see how the season progresses into the trade deadline. Me thinks this is a way bigger deal than Milsy and Petey not liking each other. Boeser is the glue that holds this team together and is also a really good player. I think that trading Boeser is a much bigger possibility than a trade with Petey or Milsy. My guess is if a trade is possible with either of these two centers has got to be a package deal with Boeser as well. They really need to get their bottom 4 D-men performing or they will not make the playoffs, and Toch will likely have to be fired to calm the irrational Canuck fans.
Here is my GM mode JT is from East Palestine Ohio. Why not a trade home to CBJ? Why? CBJ is an up and coming team, they have an incoming elite 1C in the Adam Fantilli, JT could help should some of the responsibilities for the next few years and than transition into a 2/3C support veteran role. Canucks need pieces, CBJ has them in spades. Cole Sillinger young signed at a good contract for another season after this. Could develop into a 2C. Kent Johnson, speedy LWer hometown boy signed to a good 3 year contract. Ivan Provorov, a legit 2nd pairing Dman, is a UFA no guarantee he resigns but if he fits in and does resign it would really shore up the defense. The money works almost perfectly. I’d ask for CBJ to take on the Desharnais contract as an extra little cap space perk. Of course it’s JT’s decision as he holds all the cards. Risk on both sides but pretty fair value for both teams IMO.
But the entire idea that they are performing worse because they happen to not like each other is completely made up by the media. The question is not if they like each other or not, it is if it has any impact what so ever on their play on the ice. Yeah of course Friedman doesn't want anyone to assume any outcome here, that would put a stop to being able to freely speculate on every possible outcome, can't have that.
If the Canucks are serious about winning a Cup, they trade the older player, if they can. 11.6 is a huge cap hit, but so is 8 million if the player is only giving you 50-60 points or less. The drop off is coming soon when you're 32. I appreciate Miller's style of play, but if he's acting like the captain and going over his head to bully teammates who don't play like him, he should be gone. This is Hughes' team and sometimes quiet leaders are better, when everyone's on the same page.
Exactly they are so desperate for drama they keep talking about it canucks are a good team they will make the playoffs they will be fine these rumors are hurting them they need to shut it down abs the analyst just pouring gasoline it’s embarrassing
Let's get past all the soap opera rumours and innuendo --- and let's get down to cold, hard statistics. As of this morning, Elias Petterson is currently down to #95 with only 28 points on the NHL League Leaders list for goals/assists. Connor Garland is ahead of Petterson at #84 with 38 points. Meanwhile, Quinn Hughes is at #26 with 42 points. Petterson should be up there with Hughes right now, to live up to his huge contract putting him on the elite level with McDavid, Mackinnon, Dreisatl, and all the other Top 10-20 League Leaders. The question for Canucks management and Canucks fans --- do you believe that Petterson will someday get up to the elite level as a Top !0 franchise superstar, or not? As a longtime Canucks fan, I do not. Petey is a great player, but the big contract was definitely a mistake.
Alternative was an aging Lindholm for 7y@$7.75M for a ~40pts season. Can’t take such a kindergarten view on contract signings. Last year was a thin FA year, and Petey was best available for the point production he had put up to that point in his career plus he’s in his prime. To compare his signing to past signings like MacKinnon and McJesus is also disingenuous showing a lack of understanding of NHL free agency. If both MacKinnon and McDavid were FAs the same time as Petey, they’d be commanding $15M+ per year.
Yeah he has guessed the whole rangers team as trade object, before he knew more before he talked, I liked it better when he was an expert, now he is just a regular you tube speculating dude
In the military these things often go to 3rd party arbitration with it ending in weeping and a hug "Sorry man I didn't know you were: Gay, French, Catholic, Jew, American, half Black etc.".
Miller is toxic. He's always yelling at his teammates. I don't care how good a playoff performer he is. No hockey player wants to be on a team with a guy whose ego is the size of Jupiter. Trade Miller please.
He is a loud mouth hypocrite. Good leaders lead by example, with effort and the best ones don’t scream they rarely talk, because when they do it resonates
This is how you destroy a team. Right now, 3 of 5 of their best players are out injured. Last week it was 4 out of 5. Dismantling this team would be idiotic. If you watch good sports media, they encourage their teams to be great. You guys are constantly tearing them down. You're A holes!
Friedman, you are becoming a bigger part of this story then any Canuck player.
Friedman, kept saying Miller was going to get traded a few years ago, then Miller signed an extension. WRONG
I miss sportspage!
Miss the old day's of sport journalism when it wasn't 90% bullshit and tmz driven bullshit. Every single team has players that do not get along. Only in vancouver does it get completely overblown and sensationalised
Not familliar with Les Canadiens, eh?
lol as if there are tons of teams with players that don't like each other the problem here is they are petty millionaires that are being spoiled brats
You must not support a Canadian team. They’re all like this.
Canucks need is both guys. Club must make post season. Elliot we need both.
After watching the world juniors, could Tom Willander be on the Canucks nhl lineup by season's end?
should at least give him a chance, anyone is better than Juulsen lol
@@Kyumilli and Myers
Let em cook away from this squad atm.
Wasn't Elliotte the one to start this rumour up again?
Wasn’t it Allvin?
Sportsnet: You do have an out on that contract because Pettersson’s trade protection doesn’t start until next season. But is moving your 26-year-old star actually possible?
Allvin (smiling): Well, you know Jim's history.
We want to build a team that sets us up for long-term success. Building around the long-term deals with Miller and Petey, having Quinn and Demko locked up, Filip Hronek and Jake DeBrusk, I mean, those are big pieces. Petey has shown up to this point that he is an extremely talented, quality player that could and should be a No. 1 centre. I believe in him. I believe that he's capable. (But) he needs to mature and understand that there are certain expectations and it does not get easier. And you need to face the music when things don't go well. Is it (a trade) possible? I guess I would say anything is possible.
This fire was started from INSIDE the organization, now everyone is telling the media to settle down and stop fanning the flames.
Friedman is no insider. The only inside info he has is the ones he makes up in his head. I miss actual insiders like Bob Mackenzie.
of course elliote knows its still going on, hes the cause of 90% of it
How about Dave Randorf ... ripping it in Florida...?
Media -> create rumours.
Canucks -> address rumours as mostly false.
Media -> react to Canucks addressing their rumours as a legit story…
This shit is pissing me off
don't be so obtuse. the GM and the coach acknowledged there is an issue. if their wasn't the trade chatter would have been shut down immediately.
so its their job to create and report rumors/speculation that makes it an industry. be worried the day no media are around to report or address the issues
I have a trade proposal for fun here. The Canucks trade Pettersson to the Islanders for another center Matt Barzal who's from Vancouver and Noah Dobson
Sure they would make that deal, not sure Islanders would though
Canucks would make that deal, Islanders would not
Vancouver needs to trade forward Elias Pettersson, ASAP! NOW! They may still be able to make the playoffs! Anything is better than keeping him! A few draft picks from Boston.
Or get defensive help from a team desperate to make the playoffs, like Buffalo.
I feel like any trade involving Miller or Pettersson would be a lose-lose situation for Canucks. Miller has a NMC, so this is Kesler 2.0 and will limit trading partners. As for Petey, his value is not at an all-time high especially after that last playoff performance and the nagging injury. It's really unfortunate these 2 guys can't get along. Having two 100+ pt Cs are what contenders dream of.
Why don’t you find somebody who’s actually played hockey professionally maybe even in the NHL and get them on as a guest ??? Get their opinion
But then they would have no content
Elliotte has " buddies " in Vancouver . thats funny .
I think I think I think I think I think . Very informative Elliotte
i doubt any trade happens. Both miller and petey are too good, and no reason to trade them. Plenty of teams have players that dont like each other but play, it happens in all sports. Its just the Vancouver media are always trying to dig something up when there isn't much there. Even Pettersson has said if he plays better and the teams wins, all this stuff just goes away. He wants to be in Vancouver, and I hate to see him get traded.
If Petey is available, 31 teams should be serious on making offers.
Calm down. Nobody wants to pay 11.6 million for a Swedish cupcake.
For that money. Nope.
Most GMs are saying exactly that, anyone saying different doesn’t know what they’re talking about
No one wants to come to Vancouver too much shame in that lockeroom
Nah no one has cap room. That's alot of money. Maybe 10 teams at most.
The media is the worst, so much drama, no wonder no one wants to play on a Canadian team!
Didn't this #1 insider say on tv on the weekend: one of three possibilities might occur: neither gets moved, one gets moved or both get moved. Then went on to say effectively either something will happen or nothing will happen. Earning your salary there Elliotte. How this guy has the gall to say anything is beyond me. Mr "I think" proves he's not an insider but speaks on rumour and speculation.
They call him fraud man for good reason.
Remember a few years ago when Friedman said Miller was going to get traded to Islanders. He also iindicated Miller wanted out of Vancouver. There was no trade and Miller signed an extension!! Friedman was wrong!!
Both centers need a forechecker and a sniper on the wings.Third line all prospects.Fourth line, all experienced pros.
Pettersson is a princess. He cannot fit just anywhere. JT is the better bet to keep. But regardless, the nucks are going to fall back unless they can pull off what the Caps have done.
Yes.
The Caps have Ovechkin and Tom Wilson, who run people over and can score too. That`s what makes success in the playoffs. Who cares about players with100 point seasons who coast ?
I love it how every podcast media show knows the noise is most likely hurting this club yet every dam show keeps making shows about it ffs. It's like you guy's know the players are watching and you know this will just keep kicking them down... MOVE ON ALREADY
Not gonna happen, and the fact we're here leaving comments is why. Media hasn't ever cared about how their insider, and unnamed sources, stories affect the teams, players, gm, coach, etc. It's all about generating revenue from clicks.
At least he said something truthful. To trade Petey or Milsy would mean a center coming back that won't tank the team. On top of that they need a defenseman that can fix the real problem which is the "big man defense aka the bottom 4" have been lousy. The chances of the Canucks making a trade that involves Milsy or Petey is about as close to zero as you can get. The real story that is under reported is the fact that Boeser hasn't got a new deal, so they are waiting to see how the season progresses into the trade deadline. Me thinks this is a way bigger deal than Milsy and Petey not liking each other. Boeser is the glue that holds this team together and is also a really good player. I think that trading Boeser is a much bigger possibility than a trade with Petey or Milsy. My guess is if a trade is possible with either of these two centers has got to be a package deal with Boeser as well. They really need to get their bottom 4 D-men performing or they will not make the playoffs, and Toch will likely have to be fired to calm the irrational Canuck fans.
so he's stating common sense. Not some great insight or inside knowledge there.
You`re right. The Boeser situation takes top priority. And fixing the bottom 4 defence corps is extremely important too, especially for game #83!
Elliotte Friedman aren't you suspended from talking about the Canucks till end of January? maybe keep your mouth shut
Typical yid with diarrhea of the mouth!!!!!!!!
I thought the Rocket and Boom Boom didn’t get along.
Here is my GM mode
JT is from East Palestine Ohio. Why not a trade home to CBJ?
Why? CBJ is an up and coming team, they have an incoming elite 1C in the Adam Fantilli, JT could help should some of the responsibilities for the next few years and than transition into a 2/3C support veteran role.
Canucks need pieces, CBJ has them in spades.
Cole Sillinger young signed at a good contract for another season after this. Could develop into a 2C.
Kent Johnson, speedy LWer hometown boy signed to a good 3 year contract.
Ivan Provorov, a legit 2nd pairing Dman, is a UFA no guarantee he resigns but if he fits in and does resign it would really shore up the defense.
The money works almost perfectly. I’d ask for CBJ to take on the Desharnais contract as an extra little cap space perk.
Of course it’s JT’s decision as he holds all the cards.
Risk on both sides but pretty fair value for both teams IMO.
At it again media won't be satisfied until one of these players are gone then whos next? Hughes?
But the entire idea that they are performing worse because they happen to not like each other is completely made up by the media. The question is not if they like each other or not, it is if it has any impact what so ever on their play on the ice. Yeah of course Friedman doesn't want anyone to assume any outcome here, that would put a stop to being able to freely speculate on every possible outcome, can't have that.
If the Canucks are serious about winning a Cup, they trade the older player, if they can. 11.6 is a huge cap hit, but so is 8 million if the player is only giving you 50-60 points or less. The drop off is coming soon when you're 32. I appreciate Miller's style of play, but if he's acting like the captain and going over his head to bully teammates who don't play like him, he should be gone. This is Hughes' team and sometimes quiet leaders are better, when everyone's on the same page.
You know who has a top center and top d available… florida.. samm Bennett and Aaron ekblad..
Dude always has messy hair 🤣
He combs it with dynamite 🧨
Hungover.
disrespect
and habs are gonna take it tonight
scotty bowman said the same... they don't need to like me but they play for each other
Oh boy... 😅😅
Was isn't Hughes taking charge of things? Paper captain?
What a gong show
Just trade one of them and get it done with. I don’t want to hear it anymore
Two grown men that can't coexist on a team when they're
making millions is ridiculous.
Exactly they are so desperate for drama they keep talking about it canucks are a good team they will make the playoffs they will be fine these rumors are hurting them they need to shut it down abs the analyst just pouring gasoline it’s embarrassing
casucks looking at 29, 8 from isles. Just gotta wait till isles fall out and louzer decides to sell. 29, 8 for petterson, couple firsts, prospects.
This reporters really don't know much more the the average fan. They may talk, but certainly GMs aren't telling them about their trade strategies.
All these people blaming the media reports not knowing it’s the players agents providing the information. 🎯
Let's get past all the soap opera rumours and innuendo --- and let's get down to cold, hard statistics. As of this morning, Elias Petterson is currently down to #95 with only 28 points on the NHL League Leaders list for goals/assists. Connor Garland is ahead of Petterson at #84 with 38 points. Meanwhile, Quinn Hughes is at #26 with 42 points. Petterson should be up there with Hughes right now, to live up to his huge contract putting him on the elite level with McDavid, Mackinnon, Dreisatl, and all the other Top 10-20 League Leaders. The question for Canucks management and Canucks fans --- do you believe that Petterson will someday get up to the elite level as a Top !0 franchise superstar, or not? As a longtime Canucks fan, I do not. Petey is a great player, but the big contract was definitely a mistake.
Petterson contract was a huge mistake.
Petterson got paid all star game changer money. Not a 2 assist invisibility thats been slumping for over a year!
Alternative was an aging Lindholm for 7y@$7.75M for a ~40pts season. Can’t take such a kindergarten view on contract signings. Last year was a thin FA year, and Petey was best available for the point production he had put up to that point in his career plus he’s in his prime. To compare his signing to past signings like MacKinnon and McJesus is also disingenuous showing a lack of understanding of NHL free agency. If both MacKinnon and McDavid were FAs the same time as Petey, they’d be commanding $15M+ per year.
Guy is soft between the ears can’t even skate
I wouldn’t be surprised if he asks for a trade when team misses playoffs
Dude put the pipe down Garland has 29 points not 38 points.
Friedman you hung over?
Eliot stop the garbage rumours.Montreal won't trade with Vancouver.Swedes are to soft.
They've been losing with this core for too long, of course there's going to be problems.
Friedman has become a chatty, chatty old lady
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Friedman is usually wrong on trade rumours!!!
Yeah he has guessed the whole rangers team as trade object, before he knew more before he talked, I liked it better when he was an expert, now he is just a regular you tube speculating dude
As a long suffering Canucks fan, who cares
Dobson and nelson for petey
Peterson to Montreal let’s go!!!!!
Who is Elliot he is nobody. He just spouts off on this and that and knows nothing. He is a rumour mungor!
Move along. FSS
Kobe n shaq … different but a bit of the same..
Friedman is a clown.
The guy has zero substance to anything he shares.
Elliotte Fraudman.
Elliot you say absolutely nothing
But he “thinks” a lot.
Pettersson for Bedard, who says no
well..Chicago would 100% say no lol
Holy shit guys you are beating a dead horse. You are better than this. Definitely losing a subscriber today. Had it
It's time to boycott this show. They keep promoting Friedman's fake news BS. I'm done with all of their BS.
This trade talk is bull you don’t know changes daily.
Elliotte the Expert..... complete clown.
Petersson for Lafreniere or Kempe and a dman
Clowns lol
In the military these things often go to 3rd party arbitration with it ending in weeping and a hug "Sorry man I didn't know you were: Gay, French, Catholic, Jew, American, half Black etc.".
Move on from this already lol..
Fans and media like watching and talking about the soap opera compared to the sport.
So a whole lot of nothing, got it
Miller is toxic. He's always yelling at his teammates. I don't care how good a playoff performer he is. No hockey player wants to be on a team with a guy whose ego is the size of Jupiter. Trade Miller please.
He is a loud mouth hypocrite.
Good leaders lead by example, with effort and the best ones don’t scream they rarely talk, because when they do it resonates
u sound extra vaccinated and gay
Pettersson is more useless than a used condom. Dude is absolutely garbage. A cry baby. Most overpaid/overrated player in the NHL today.
he's overated..............he's lousy
Ok, Petey. lol
This clown just makes sheet up.
Elliotte is a hack.
Elliotte is woke.
Well, if not woke sure looks like he just woke up 😂
Ya they staying. Not 1 team wants your cancer.
This is how you destroy a team. Right now, 3 of 5 of their best players are out injured. Last week it was 4 out of 5. Dismantling this team would be idiotic. If you watch good sports media, they encourage their teams to be great. You guys are constantly tearing them down. You're A holes!
Friedman is a joke he is just a mouthpiece get someone who actually played hockey