I've similar story. Recently I was interviewed and got architectural problem to solve. In couple of minutes I figured out solution and explained it to the interviewer. He said my solution was wrong and proceed to explain exact same solution that I offered. When I pointed to him that was exactly what I said, his response was "yeah, I guess you right". Day later I got email that I didn't get a job.
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The problem with that kind of question is you’re screwed either way. If you answer honestly they reject you. If you lie they reject you for being dishonest. It’s like the “would you still work here if you won the lottery” question
I got asked in a phone call interview: "How many windows are in New york city?" I responded "Well a lot of windows, definitely more windows than there are buildings". That same evening I received a rejection email. Note I have never been to New York city, the company was based in Texas and I didn't understand how any of that was related to the role of "Python Developer".
I'd say it depends on how you're counting windows. Are we counting residential buildings? How about office towers? Are we talking about the city city or the larger area? I'd say that given that the population is around 11 million at least ( I forgot ) and we came up with an arbitrary ratio of there being 11 windows per person that means there's at least a million windows. There might not be a great way to get even a rough estimate but if the person is asking that as a question you have to consider that there's a good reason behind it and give it some careful thought.
I learned this lesson after my third interview process. Job interviews are not for the candidate to stand out. Job interviews are to disqualify candidates from the other applicants.
It's cool you gave the honest answer! No guarantee that you would have got the job if you had lied.. He could have asked why do you choose us over AMAZON?!! And at that time you might not come up with some reasonable answer.. Happy you walked out of the room an honest man!
The other day I decided to make a list of all interviews I got: 20 total, 4 offers - 1 offer was a co-op, 1 was a temp contract, 1 offer rescinded due to covid, 1 offer I accepted in March and am still waiting for a security clearance to start (it’s December now). 2 cancelled at start of 2022 tech layoffs, Google and Amazon, I was on the last Amazon round and I was pretty confident about that one. Actually another cancelled with Google, had a phone screen with a recruiter that got laid off leading up to it. So 20 total, 4 offers, 3 canceled, 13 rejections.
I think the optimal answer to the question is some variant of: “whoever gives me the better offer”. Perfectly honest answer that puts the ball back in their court
I have similar experience when interviewer asks me where you want to be in next 5 years I said I'm interested in AI and ML stuff something like ML Engineer. But the interview position is for backend software engineer.
From what I've gathered, generally a good answer is that you're looking for the best fit and to ask clarifying questions about the culture and work place to help your decision making process. Obviously there are too many variables to say this would work in every scenario, but I think it's an honest and flexible answer.
Yeah, there's probably a way to say you're really looking for a company with blah blah culture and using blah blah exciting technology and that you'd love to learn more about [Interviewing company] to see if it matches what you're looking for. A company asking that question and then not liking an honest answer isn't probably a place I would want to work anyways.
I've been given one interview and have failed one interview. I've sent out like 100 applications. It was absolutely destructive towards my self esteem. It was also for my personal #1 company for my #1 position. So my excitement was immeasurable, and I panicked. I genuinely didn't think I would get an interview, so I had never done serious leetcode prep or anything similar up to that point either. maybe like 4 questions tops 💀
dont feel bad about veeva.. honesty is the real prestige in the workforce. Not many people can be honest about things. Kudos to you. Veeva dont deserve you. And im glad you ended up at Google. Honesty and kindness lasts forever.
Tech interviews are so antagonistic, it’s really strange. Previously as a mech E my interview process was a phone call and going out to lunch with my future team.
Crazy I also had an interview with Veeva a couple of months ago but got a rejection email after I sent my availability for scheduling the 3rd round like what🤣
I don’t know man. What do you expect them to say? I don’t like you? You are not hired? Like in your face? I don’t know man. What would you do if you were on the other side?
That's a stupid question. And you answered it right. If they can make choices over multiple candidates, why can't the candidates make choices over multiple companies?
The entire tech industry itself is fucked up and somehow companies have became cocky i feel. Its way more difficult now to even enter as junior SDE in any company let alone the MAANG. I can see on linkedin companies reposting the same job opening multiple times even after having 300+ appilcants (sometimes even 1000+) , Entry level positions as per Linkedin now requires min 3 yrs of exp as per majority of job posts (I mean when the f**k did that happen , how are amateurs supposed to get in ) , Also the skills requirements even for SDE 1 is puzzling (add to that 4-5 rounds of interview he/she has to go). Imagine if AI becomes mainstream.... DARK TIMES AHEAD.
Yepp the pendulum has swinged too hard in the tech industry to the extreme. Its seem that tech is def not as lucrative as some other industries now. The gap is closing
Tech is broken and profits are shrinking. It’s better to work in real estate where you can sell few million dollar houses per year and make 3% commission.
Would the correct answer be to say veeva would be your top pick, or to try to doge the question, like say "I'm excited to work for multiple companies, its hard to pick a favorite since they're all different, but I'm very excited to work at veeva"
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Fun fact: All those people who rejected you might be watching your videos to get out of those companies themselves :D
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I've similar story. Recently I was interviewed and got architectural problem to solve. In couple of minutes I figured out solution and explained it to the interviewer. He said my solution was wrong and proceed to explain exact same solution that I offered. When I pointed to him that was exactly what I said, his response was "yeah, I guess you right". Day later I got email that I didn't get a job.
Sorry, but what went wrong here? Why'd u get rejected?
Man, I really hate people sometimes, smh.
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In an interview, always tell people what they want to hear.
I have an allergic reaction to BSing
Imagine you say "I'd choose Veeva over Amazon" and the other person thinks "wow, this guy would say anything to get a job."
not only in the interview, can apply in life bro :D
In a world of lies, honesty does not pay.
The problem with that kind of question is you’re screwed either way. If you answer honestly they reject you. If you lie they reject you for being dishonest. It’s like the “would you still work here if you won the lottery” question
I got asked in a phone call interview: "How many windows are in New york city?" I responded "Well a lot of windows, definitely more windows than there are buildings". That same evening I received a rejection email. Note I have never been to New York city, the company was based in Texas and I didn't understand how any of that was related to the role of "Python Developer".
It's a brain teaser. It isn't about the right answer, they want to know how you think.
@@ColonialN7 Yeah it's a typical consulting style market sizing problem. Not sure why they ask that to Python developers tho
I'd say it depends on how you're counting windows. Are we counting residential buildings? How about office towers? Are we talking about the city city or the larger area?
I'd say that given that the population is around 11 million at least ( I forgot ) and we came up with an arbitrary ratio of there being 11 windows per person that means there's at least a million windows.
There might not be a great way to get even a rough estimate but if the person is asking that as a question you have to consider that there's a good reason behind it and give it some careful thought.
Its called a guesstimate question , you just had to make an educated guess based on some assumptions.
People who ask such questions must be so sad.
I learned this lesson after my third interview process. Job interviews are not for the candidate to stand out. Job interviews are to disqualify candidates from the other applicants.
It's cool you gave the honest answer! No guarantee that you would have got the job if you had lied.. He could have asked why do you choose us over AMAZON?!! And at that time you might not come up with some reasonable answer.. Happy you walked out of the room an honest man!
The other day I decided to make a list of all interviews I got: 20 total, 4 offers - 1 offer was a co-op, 1 was a temp contract, 1 offer rescinded due to covid, 1 offer I accepted in March and am still waiting for a security clearance to start (it’s December now). 2 cancelled at start of 2022 tech layoffs, Google and Amazon, I was on the last Amazon round and I was pretty confident about that one. Actually another cancelled with Google, had a phone screen with a recruiter that got laid off leading up to it.
So 20 total, 4 offers, 3 canceled, 13 rejections.
Always feels like a numbers game.
I think the optimal answer to the question is some variant of: “whoever gives me the better offer”. Perfectly honest answer that puts the ball back in their court
I have similar experience when interviewer asks me where you want to be in next 5 years I said I'm interested in AI and ML stuff something like ML Engineer. But the interview position is for backend software engineer.
and you got rejected?
It's a very healthy mindset of being able to learn from your mistakes and live with it
From what I've gathered, generally a good answer is that you're looking for the best fit and to ask clarifying questions about the culture and work place to help your decision making process. Obviously there are too many variables to say this would work in every scenario, but I think it's an honest and flexible answer.
Yeah, there's probably a way to say you're really looking for a company with blah blah culture and using blah blah exciting technology and that you'd love to learn more about [Interviewing company] to see if it matches what you're looking for.
A company asking that question and then not liking an honest answer isn't probably a place I would want to work anyways.
MS dude was jealous you are smarter than him
I've been given one interview and have failed one interview. I've sent out like 100 applications.
It was absolutely destructive towards my self esteem. It was also for my personal #1 company for my #1 position. So my excitement was immeasurable, and I panicked.
I genuinely didn't think I would get an interview, so I had never done serious leetcode prep or anything similar up to that point either. maybe like 4 questions tops 💀
dont feel bad about veeva.. honesty is the real prestige in the workforce. Not many people can be honest about things. Kudos to you. Veeva dont deserve you. And im glad you ended up at Google. Honesty and kindness lasts forever.
Screw them. Veeva sounds like a bad company.
Tech interviews are so antagonistic, it’s really strange.
Previously as a mech E my interview process was a phone call and going out to lunch with my future team.
Interview process is much better and reflects real world experience and skills in non CS disciplines. Programming interviews are broken.
'what other companies are you interviewing with ?' -> 'none of your business really'
I'm thinking "Let's keep some questions for the inauguration ceremony."
Your videos are goated. The live stream event was cool, would love to listen in to another one
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.
Leetcode is hard but behavioral question like this is almost impossible to get right
Crazy I also had an interview with Veeva a couple of months ago but got a rejection email after I sent my availability for scheduling the 3rd round like what🤣
My wooooord your Microsoft story was practically a carbon copy of mine (but unlike you, I would've chosen Amazon over Microsoft if offered both)
Bro that's not even 4D chess that's "Can you tell a basic lie that you obviously need to make"
Ha, i had a roommate who is one of the first engineers at veeva
I would've said the same dumb mistake, and i have
I don’t know man. What do you expect them to say? I don’t like you? You are not hired? Like in your face? I don’t know man. What would you do if you were on the other side?
Learned this lesson the hard way, not related to coding though.
You guys are getting interviews?
That's a stupid question. And you answered it right. If they can make choices over multiple candidates, why can't the candidates make choices over multiple companies?
At 3:03, how should one give a "good" answer? Cuz as u said, we cant be too honest, but at the same time we shouldn't spit out an obvious lie right 😂
The entire tech industry itself is fucked up and somehow companies have became cocky i feel. Its way more difficult now to even enter as junior SDE in any company let alone the MAANG. I can see on linkedin companies reposting the same job opening multiple times even after having 300+ appilcants (sometimes even 1000+) , Entry level positions as per Linkedin now requires min 3 yrs of exp as per majority of job posts (I mean when the f**k did that happen , how are amateurs supposed to get in ) , Also the skills requirements even for SDE 1 is puzzling (add to that 4-5 rounds of interview he/she has to go). Imagine if AI becomes mainstream.... DARK TIMES AHEAD.
Yepp the pendulum has swinged too hard in the tech industry to the extreme. Its seem that tech is def not as lucrative as some other industries now. The gap is closing
@@foreverskeptical1 Yeah many feel that its due to the recession and will fade away. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Yeah Im so annoyed. Applied to over 5,000 jobs but havent gotten a single offer
Wtf 5k application 😮@@johndong4754
Tech is broken and profits are shrinking. It’s better to work in real estate where you can sell few million dollar houses per year and make 3% commission.
I guess “company A asks of all the companies you are interviewing for which one do you want - company B”we have found the “neetcode hard” problem
Brooo I also had a brutal exp through Veeva lmao, ill take the Lesson
I was asked the "how many companies are you interviewing with?" And I was like welp I'm not gonna say just you so...
Would the correct answer be to say veeva would be your top pick, or to try to doge the question, like say "I'm excited to work for multiple companies, its hard to pick a favorite since they're all different, but I'm very excited to work at veeva"
Yeah that’s the correct answer. Never give honest answers. You have to be political too.
If you fail coding interviews, then there is no hope for us mortals…😅
i will told in %chance of getting it company!
lmao bless your heart telling the truth. No really, bless your heart because- like- just-🙏♥
Was this a stream? I can't find the full stream
Playing 4d-chess with graduates is so under-handed though - what's even the point?
Video feedback: Turn off or turn down that thing that auto-cuts micro clips out of the video .. Iit's pretty annoying and unnecessary
"The only interview I got were Google and Microsoft"
Boohoo bruh
One company asked me why I want to leave my company and I told them the company sucked, bad people lol mistakes of life lol
Is tech always been difficult to fine a job?
So many things that depends from situation and not from fair interview, fu**k
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you see, training for interviews: Leetcode + soft skills/deal with people
The people part is important..., i'm still trying to learn this one. Saddly, it's harder for me than leetcode.
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the veeva interviewer just sounds dumb lol, if the candidate is interviewing at top tech companies then ofc he's gonna choose them
The company sounds like arrogance
Why don't you move to Thailand or any SA country ? its much cheaper/simpler to live over there.
Same happened with me i told i don't like to stay at home in a work from home job 🥲