MEDIEVAL MISCONCEPTIONS: jousting and lance combat

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2019
  • What was knightly jousting and lance mounted combat TRULY like in the medieval period?
    Late Medieval Lance Use by Michael S. Curl
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Комментарии • 866

  • @Ninavask
    @Ninavask 5 лет назад +307

    Excellent video with some great information on historical jousting and mounted combat. I work for a stunt company that performs jousts for a number of renaissance faires across the United States, and I have to say I love seeing a lot of the information I have learned over the last eleven years being outlined so concisely. Not only that but I got to learn something about historical mounted combat and have a new thesis on the topic I get to read!
    Thank you for the excellant video, Shad!

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato8763 5 лет назад +303

    Today: "Medieval jousting and lance combat: MEDIEVAL MISCONCEPTIONS"
    500 years later: "21st century airsoft and small arms combat: 21st CENTURY MISCONCEPTIONS"

    • @MW_Asura
      @MW_Asura 4 года назад +13

      Hello stranger from the future!

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 3 года назад +6

      @@MarekSVK81 That reminds me of that great scene in Iron Man 3, where they argue about non-interchangable magatzines while holding airsoft magazines.

    • @barrylyndon5552
      @barrylyndon5552 3 года назад +6

      Many historians claim that the millennial tonk was an armored toilet mostly used by officers or soldiers who really needed to go. But was it? Today I examine the claims that the tonk may have had playstations inside it

  • @emarsk77
    @emarsk77 5 лет назад +301

    10:58
    Squire: "Your lance, my lord."
    Horse: "Aaaaah!! A long stick!!!"

    • @DutchieAbroad
      @DutchieAbroad 5 лет назад +46

      It's more like: "He has the stick! LET'S GOOOOO!"
      Horses know very well when they are allowed to run :P

    • @Ninavask
      @Ninavask 5 лет назад +17

      You have no idea how much it can be either that, or the horse getting pissed that the knight is telling them to wait cause he doesnt have a stick yet. It is a lot of work to get a ready and rearing to go horse to listen.

    • @user-pj1ec5om5g
      @user-pj1ec5om5g 4 года назад +10

      @@Ninavask today I learned that horses too want to kick ass, today was a good day

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 3 года назад +3

      I wonder if anyones wardog ever chased after a knight trying to steal his giant lance/stick...

  • @Errtuabyss
    @Errtuabyss 5 лет назад +799

    Waiting for Shad to do some jousting in his garden.
    Because Shad garden videos are best videos.

    • @Maninawig
      @Maninawig 5 лет назад +7

      Wait.. That's his garden?

    • @theblancmange1265
      @theblancmange1265 5 лет назад +16

      On the rolled-up thingy horse?

    • @baronvonbeans9887
      @baronvonbeans9887 5 лет назад +30

      That's doable
      Just have the smaller kids get on the bigger kids backs and have them charge each other with brooms

    • @nathanc939
      @nathanc939 5 лет назад +7

      He should do wheel barrow joust with his kids. I did it a few years ago when I was 19-20 with some friend and we had a blast, we laughed so much our abs were burning the next day.

    • @LindaGailLamb.0808
      @LindaGailLamb.0808 5 лет назад +3

      @@baronvonbeans9887 😂😂😂 !! One way to work off their excess energy, or settle their disputes 😁.

  • @cuthalion4281
    @cuthalion4281 5 лет назад +196

    That "HAVE AT THEM, BOOOOYS!" in the background was brilliant.

    • @anselme198
      @anselme198 5 лет назад +24

      i doubted for a second that I had mordhau video running in another tab

    • @LazyBastard69
      @LazyBastard69 5 лет назад +12

      PUMPKINCANNONYEAAAH

    • @psydemekum
      @psydemekum 3 года назад +2

      *hehe i had to rewind the video to be sure it came from it ^^

    • @silk6473
      @silk6473 3 года назад +2

      @@psydemekum LMFAO same, i just checked the comments to see if anyone else did it as well

    • @cam9829
      @cam9829 3 года назад +1

      YAAAAA mordhau that was a voice line in the game

  • @Tobbzn
    @Tobbzn 5 лет назад +88

    My most hype medieval festival experience was when I was "charged" by a knight on horseback while I was on foot, bracing with my shield.
    Yeah I know the lance is designed to break but that's still several hundred kilograms of death trampling towards you.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 5 лет назад +6

      But horses can only go in one direction. Once you figure out which way they are going they aren't going to easily turn without rolling over. You just have to get out of the way. One possible scenario is to get them while they are turning towards you and hit the horse in the butt and spook it to throw off the rider.

    • @dariuszzebrzydowski7974
      @dariuszzebrzydowski7974 5 лет назад +3

      @This Dude yes,but there was one mounted knight,not many charging towards him,so it was much easier to defend

    • @user-xl9bb7gc4l
      @user-xl9bb7gc4l 5 лет назад +17

      @@kylehill3643 You may as well do a Jedi mind trick to the horse, it's more possible than the crouching tiger hidden dragon acrobatics you propose

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 5 лет назад

      so you're telling me that you survived this ambush?
      you know, knights were training the swords.

    • @Ugh-Fudge_Bwana
      @Ugh-Fudge_Bwana 5 лет назад +13

      @@kylehill3643 Have you ever actually been around a real horse before? lmfao holy shit do yourself a favor and *never* try your theory out irl. You'll live longer.

  • @EpreTroll
    @EpreTroll 5 лет назад +116

    Could you perhaps make a video on the significance of horse use in the medieval ages specifically in cities and towns. How did people go about with horses? Did everyone have a horse? Where do you keep your horse if you live inside a city? Did you have horse parking lots? xd Would be an interesting topic for a video

    • @kyomademon453
      @kyomademon453 5 лет назад +11

      I dont know about medieval cities, but in spanish colonial period, cities would have designated horse and people streets, and houses would have really big tall doors for people with horses to enter and leave their horses in that designated area before entering the actual house, overall i suppose people would leave their horse on stables or posts

    • @godking
      @godking 5 лет назад +6

      No not everyone had a horse. Horses where and are very expensive animals.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico 3 года назад +5

      @@godking a regular labor horse isn't that expensive. It's the pedigree that rockets the price up but if you just want a horse to work on the field they are way more affordable (especially if bought young and untrained). As for the medieval period, idk but I assume it wouldn't be much different. War horses being very expensive but farmer horses not that much. Also, were there still wild horses roaming around for poor people to try and catch? A video on the topic would be great.

    • @ronweber1402
      @ronweber1402 3 года назад +6

      @@Yarblocosifilitico I think most farmers of the time still used oxen for draft animals. Horses were still a luxury and would have been used by merchants, nobles and knights. The most common would have been the English Ambler which was a shorter horse that was very comfortable to ride over long distances because of it's level gait so the rider doesn't bounce. War horses were the equivalent of buying a Abrams tank and were crazy expensive to buy, train and maintain. The knights would have ridden an Ambler most of the time and only ridden their war horse during training, jousting or actual battle.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico 3 года назад +1

      @@ronweber1402 I mean, you're probably right but there's also horses without pedrigree. Neither English Ambler, nor Abrams, nor anything. Just a horse. Again, you're probably right about farmers using oxen but I bet there were regular horses available to some of them too (a horse must eat less than an oxen so it's a good option too).

  • @act.13.41
    @act.13.41 5 лет назад +17

    For those of you who have not gotten to see live jousting, it is incredible. The impacts are loud. The guys really get rocked in the saddle. It is an awesome/exciting/unforgetable show that everyone should witness at least once in their lives.

  • @Paladin585
    @Paladin585 5 лет назад +119

    Intriguing, lance combat has always mystified me a bit, it seems so simple on the surface, literally just "pointy end goes into the other man". I've struggled with how to describe it in my writing and how to work it into RPGs, this is very helpful.

    • @balerionthedread9284
      @balerionthedread9284 5 лет назад +15

      Stick em with the pointy end....

    • @Paladin585
      @Paladin585 5 лет назад +7

      @@nobunaga9533 true enough, though to be fair, a lot of D&D attacks would be lethal without question. Could be some interesting homebrew options with a squire NPC and treating the lance more like ammo than a constant weapon. Be pretty limited in use I would imagine, but it could work.

    • @rags417
      @rags417 5 лет назад +2

      Try out a set of miniature rules called DBM (De Bellis Multitudinis). It really shows the evolving dynamic between heavy charging lancers and the sorts of opponents they were likely to face. Against massed spearmen or axemen (the usual foot levy of the time) they were lethal, but against light horse with javelins or horse bows they suffered badly - witness the battle of Hattin.
      Heavy lancers emerged as the answer to the prevailing question of the day, which was how to take out massed close rank foot levy. Later on the question became how to take out heavy massed lancers and the answer was massed heavy bow (longbow or crossbow) fire, pikes polearms.

    • @historiculgeomocule5569
      @historiculgeomocule5569 5 лет назад

      I know, it can be confusing at times!

    • @BenVara
      @BenVara 5 лет назад +4

      Look up Full Metal Jousting here on youtube. It was a borderline watchable reality show on History channel about a decade ago, and its historical statements are about as worthwhile as Deadliest Warrior's. But the depiction of training, technique, and fatigue in the course of the competition really does illuminate the strain of jousting. Also, since the show features diverse backgrounds of its participants--from ex-military, rodeo riders, stunt riders, and theatrical riders--you get to see a lot of different personalities and skillsets pitted against each other.

  • @MarineQueen2001
    @MarineQueen2001 5 лет назад +294

    Why is it that my favourite guy on RUclips has to be literally on the other side of the world to me. kind regards from Britain my beautiful Australian friend.

    • @dorkandproudofit
      @dorkandproudofit 5 лет назад +13

      Speak for yourself, I'm from Tennessee in the US. You're closer than me, you lucky dog!

    • @dorkandproudofit
      @dorkandproudofit 5 лет назад +17

      Semantics. At least the UK has actual castles so even when you can't make it to Super Poison Death Continent Island (aka Australia aka That Place Where The Most Awesome Master of Machicolations Lives) you can at least visit a place to get you in the proper mood, so to speak. In my neighborhood we have the Battle of Franklin, aka one of the most needlessly bloody battles in our already-bloody civil war, and all the super-depressing stories about that. That's really it in terms of local history, just blood and death (and lots and lots of racism). You guys get machicolations!

    • @gohunt001-5
      @gohunt001-5 5 лет назад +14

      _laughs in indonesian_
      Which sounds somewhat like this:
      *wkwkwk*

    • @DysnomiaFilms
      @DysnomiaFilms 5 лет назад +8

      How do you think Australians feel about almost every famous or interesting person?

    • @sapphocomputers
      @sapphocomputers 5 лет назад +4

      @@DysnomiaFilms hey they have uhhh...Keith Urban? and uhhhh...Hugh Jackman?...yeah nevermind

  • @cherryrook8684
    @cherryrook8684 5 лет назад +118

    Dont think you can sneak that Mordhau Foppish "Have at them boys!" in there without me noticing !!

    • @victor1945
      @victor1945 5 лет назад +19

      LOOK MEN! LOOK! LOOK HOW TERRIBLE HE IS!

    • @bonelessman56
      @bonelessman56 5 лет назад +4

      as soon as I heard it I thought I was tabbed out of mordhau for some reason XD

    • @ballpoint7887
      @ballpoint7887 5 лет назад +10

      If you shake it more than twice, it's playing with it!

    • @MCWren
      @MCWren 5 лет назад +1

      Kierran Kivinen Damn you for stealing my comment!

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 5 лет назад +3

      @@victor1945 Art thou mad brother?

  • @dreadthemadsmith
    @dreadthemadsmith 5 лет назад +45

    The only way to joust is double lances.
    You use one to pulvult and the other to strike your opponent in the back of the head.
    This can be countered by having a second smaller horse tied to your back and backflipping off your main horse and knocking your opponent's pulvulting lance out from under them.

    • @LindaGailLamb.0808
      @LindaGailLamb.0808 5 лет назад +6

      😂😂😂 !! ...and if that's not enough, then you finish by throwing a pommel to end them rightly.

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 5 лет назад

      @@LindaGailLamb.0808 a spandau pommel?

  • @noisetank6620
    @noisetank6620 5 лет назад +169

    I was asking for a vid on jousting am happy you've done it now

  • @gary-rc8bt
    @gary-rc8bt 5 лет назад +119

    I'd love to see Shad review the jousting in A Knight's Tale

  • @TheHobberGames
    @TheHobberGames 5 лет назад +3

    1:32 HAVE AT THEM BOYS!

  • @nasserfirelordarts6574
    @nasserfirelordarts6574 5 лет назад +51

    2:00 CLANG
    Please don't take a hiatus mate

    • @alejandrofernandezcastro5421
      @alejandrofernandezcastro5421 5 лет назад +9

      1:50 "I'm Captain America!" Lol these details deserve credit too

    • @JimGiant
      @JimGiant 5 лет назад +5

      I knew a CLANG was on it's way as soon as I saw the SFX texts.

    • @emrekulac3207
      @emrekulac3207 5 лет назад +4

      Time for grasses

    • @Eruoso
      @Eruoso 5 лет назад +2

      Nothing will be rong

  • @michaelcurl9200
    @michaelcurl9200 5 лет назад +9

    Thanks for making the video Shad. There is plenty of fodder for other videos in the article, so feel free to do so once your schedule clears up. The stuff that most interested me were the various techniques for defending against attacks from the rear, and how to defeat opponents with longer weapon or even longer lances. The article also goes into some of the dynamics of mounted combat, such as the importance of different saddles for different combat styles, the reasons why Middle Eastern and Iberian combatants chose one method over another, and the importance of the 8 o’clock position, roughly analogous to the 6 o’clock position in aerial dogfighting. There is really much more that had to be cut from the article to make room, and if people have access to articles through JSTOR, I sincerely hope they enjoy it and use it to further their own research.

  • @Altrantis
    @Altrantis 5 лет назад +62

    The knightly cavalry charge an it's composing elements are extremely underdiscussed, specially compare to swords in the context of knights.

    • @penttikoivuniemi2146
      @penttikoivuniemi2146 5 лет назад +2

      Probably because most HEMAists don't have the resources to do mounted stuff. The same can be seen in the popularity of unarmored fencing versus armored fencing, a suit of armor costs a lot more than what you need to start sparring longsword.

    • @michaelcurl9200
      @michaelcurl9200 4 года назад +1

      I'm writing an article for Medieval Warfare Magazine where I go into this stuff in more detail. It's still in the works but should be out some time in 2020.

  • @Sam-iw6te
    @Sam-iw6te 5 лет назад +264

    Shad, do you mind doing a fantasy class set-up type of video? Kind of a fantasy re-armed, but creating loadouts for those classes, with explanations for each weapon, armor set, etc.

    • @Ally5141
      @Ally5141 5 лет назад +20

      But classes in RPG are stupid.
      Shad's words, not mine.

    • @justinsims7935
      @justinsims7935 5 лет назад +4

      @@Ally5141 you can still use classes to define a character without restricting yourself.

    • @Ally5141
      @Ally5141 5 лет назад +10

      @@justinsims7935 Then it's a role, not a class. And with roles I can live

    • @justinsims7935
      @justinsims7935 5 лет назад +3

      @@Ally5141 thats what I meant (I dont know the proper terms for everything) but I agree about the classes theyre to restrictive.

    • @rafaelllaban4115
      @rafaelllaban4115 5 лет назад +4

      Sounds like it would be very interesting, especially for us who play tabletop rpg's :^)

  • @RoBert-tz4jp
    @RoBert-tz4jp 5 лет назад +58

    1:40 - 2:20
    I couldn't hear anything he said. Laughing too much at the pop up texts.

    • @KathTalia
      @KathTalia 5 лет назад +3

      Me too, I couldn't focus at all xD

  • @LootMaster007
    @LootMaster007 5 лет назад +21

    Double thumbs up for mentioning the same article I used in my uni history essay

  • @daltoncook209
    @daltoncook209 5 лет назад +75

    Well, I know my next D&D character

    • @Xaylence
      @Xaylence 5 лет назад +10

      I fighter wearing 90 lb. inflexible tournament plate?

    • @mechamem3391
      @mechamem3391 5 лет назад +11

      @@Xaylence nah, a slightly chubby weapons enthusiast.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 5 лет назад +6

      Fighter, Cavalier subclass, Mounted Combatant feat. Probably the Defense fighting style, for added AC. While the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style _would_ apply to lances, it would only do so if you were wielding it two-handed. And while mounted, you usually use the lance one-handed (unless you're being historical, as Shad demonstrates). The Defense style, while less flashy and damaging, has more universal applicability.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 лет назад +3

      Gnome Cavalier with an Orc npc buddy who carries you master blaster style with twin lances.

    • @josiahneal7455
      @josiahneal7455 3 года назад +3

      @@Bluecho4 since the lance isnt a two handed weapon, the dual wielder feat hilariously allows you to use two lances at the same time while mounted, with a bonus to AC to boot

  • @marcodatreviso9619
    @marcodatreviso9619 5 лет назад +12

    Great in depth video. I always asked myself if two handed lances were used in era of the knight, they were in earlier periods of history all things considered. A small language related fact: in Italian there's only one word to indicate both spear and lance which is "lancia" and I believe it was the same in the various vernaculars throughout Italy with "lanza" and similar variants while other polearms have specific names like pike:"picca" etc.

  • @bergolas8
    @bergolas8 5 лет назад +41

    Thanks, Shad, I'm always learning from you.
    Greetings from Mexico.

  • @GilgameshEthics
    @GilgameshEthics 5 лет назад +9

    More videos like this. Excellent look into a niche area of martial arts AND warfare. Mounted combat is so interesting.

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 5 лет назад +223

    *History:* Lances don't have pommels
    *Me:* :O

    • @NoobSharkey
      @NoobSharkey 5 лет назад +8

      This is why the European sword is best

    • @Guderian2
      @Guderian2 5 лет назад +19

      We have the Technology! We can build it!

    • @liammorris9372
      @liammorris9372 5 лет назад +20

      The back of the couched lance is a pommel, all we need to do is unscrew it and end thy joust rightly :P

    • @illegalmemedealer3549
      @illegalmemedealer3549 5 лет назад +9

      The coronel on the end /is/ the pommel

    • @Alaerick1
      @Alaerick1 5 лет назад +1

      0/10 weapon

  • @pinnedthrottle7690
    @pinnedthrottle7690 5 лет назад +3

    Shad, I’ve always been interested in jousting and this video helped me understand so much more about it! Thank you for the quality content!

  • @ObiJuanKenobi3
    @ObiJuanKenobi3 5 лет назад +2

    I saw that sneaky “HAVE AT THEM BOYSSSSS,” you put in there Shad.

  • @baronvonbeans9887
    @baronvonbeans9887 5 лет назад +30

    The Demilance is just a spear
    But *premium*

  • @fmsyntheses
    @fmsyntheses 5 лет назад +2

    We have what we call 'Renaissance Festivals' or sometimes 'Fairs' in the United States. They're really more Medieval festivals, but that doesn't matter.
    At the one that is still held in my area, there was and is jousting in full plate armor, and when I was younger, the knights would also do mildly choreographed longsword fighting. So in my mind, melee was always a part of the tourney.

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 5 лет назад

      Crocmaster McGeezax our Medieval fairs tend more toward teen actors and attempts at historical accuracy.

  • @NoobPTFO
    @NoobPTFO 5 лет назад +3

    No one:
    That one guy in the charge: *HAVE AT THEM BOYS!*

  • @Haerodiel
    @Haerodiel 5 лет назад +1

    Beech trees ARE the best tree, and you absolutely should say it! Even as a kid, beech trees were my favorite tree, which confused many people, other kids and adults. I told them it made me think of the Mallorn trees that grow in Lothlorien. Years later, I found out Tolkien based Mallorn trees on beech trees, and they they were HIS favorite tree! I felt so validated!!

  • @MetaSynForYourSoul
    @MetaSynForYourSoul 5 лет назад +3

    I wish I was in Australia then I could gain a true audience with Lord Shad, Lord Protector of Medieval realism in media, crowned prince of a guy, and master of Matriculations!!! Thanks for all you do, my brother. You've not only entertained me to the fullest, but you've given me so much insight and knowledge I genuinely credit you as one of the few great RUclipsrs that have truly expanded my mind, horizons, and thinking. Thank you again, sir! You're a true gentleman and a scholar!

  • @co2blast996
    @co2blast996 5 лет назад +4

    Speaking of Mordhau, Shad are you planning to do a review on its historical accuracy?

  • @nathanc939
    @nathanc939 5 лет назад +4

    You should have seen the wheel barrow joust me and some friends did when I was 19-20. That was brutal and hilarous! It could have been less brutal, but hey for 20 years old men, the more violent it is the better.

  • @TheSonOfTheDragon
    @TheSonOfTheDragon 5 лет назад +3

    I've been trying to start a multitude of stories, some of which are medieval fantasy, and you and your videos have been a blessings from the gods. This must be home William Shakespeare felt when Odin helped to influence his writing. Thanks Shad.

  • @ZarlanTheGreen
    @ZarlanTheGreen 5 лет назад +37

    6:31 Hm... excellent insult, towards a son of dryad: "son of beech"

    • @justinsims7935
      @justinsims7935 5 лет назад +6

      ...Oak-kay that was a good one.

    • @Ruarscampbell
      @Ruarscampbell 5 лет назад +4

      Unless it's a complement to the dryads... they can make large, strong shafts...

    • @ZarlanTheGreen
      @ZarlanTheGreen 5 лет назад

      @@Ruarscampbell Dude, dryads are exclusively female...

    • @Ruarscampbell
      @Ruarscampbell 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@ZarlanTheGreen I'll correct it then: A compliment to the dryad's son.

    • @ZarlanTheGreen
      @ZarlanTheGreen 5 лет назад

      @@Ruarscampbell Heh :) Nice response.

  • @martinzemek5798
    @martinzemek5798 5 лет назад +2

    Yes! I was hoping for Shad to cover this topic.

  • @Maribro4
    @Maribro4 5 лет назад +8

    After watching a lot of shads videos I’ve learned.
    Shad loves kite shields
    Shad loves swords but pole arms were more prevalent in warfare
    Shad was a weeb
    Shad’s good at wooden recreation of weapons
    Shad like memes
    MACHICOLATIONS

  • @leonardoribas6974
    @leonardoribas6974 5 лет назад +2

    As always, amazing video Shad, love your content. Greetings from Brazil

  • @Jordan-cs6bn
    @Jordan-cs6bn 5 лет назад +5

    Nobody:
    Shad: *Delivered couched lance damage!*

    • @lukatomas9465
      @lukatomas9465 5 лет назад

      @Winter's Destruction With Fire and Sword.

  • @steevemartial4084
    @steevemartial4084 5 лет назад

    Thank you Shad for sharing this amazing info from a premium quality source: actual science! I hope you can do more of that in the future.

  • @doctordetroit84
    @doctordetroit84 5 лет назад

    One of your most interesting and informative videos ever, and that's saying a lot. The joust looked truly awe inspiring and it was great seeing the men making the lances. Wish I could've been there (an entire ocean away), hope you had an excellent time!

  • @Chopthemonions
    @Chopthemonions 5 лет назад +1

    Such a well done video Shad. Well researched as always. You have cultivated my love for medieval history. Originally found your channel for Skyrim content but I stayed for the well researched content and wonderful personality. Great work as always and a massive hats off to you!

  • @TKButterfly
    @TKButterfly 5 лет назад +2

    I was there too! It was amazing!
    So annoyed I didn't see you
    Thanks for the extra info!

  • @ForceExodus
    @ForceExodus 5 лет назад +4

    Whenever someone asks what good source of medieval info is, I tell them the good ol' library or good ol' Shadiversity :) shout out Shad you have awesome content :)

  • @Boyzby
    @Boyzby 5 лет назад

    That melee combat footage was fun to watch and kind of terrifying when thinking about how screwed some of those people would be if those were real weapons. And thanks for the red circles in the thumbnail. I couldn't figure out where people's hands are, so it was nice knowing that information beforehand when that part of the video came.

  • @kevlarandchrome
    @kevlarandchrome 5 лет назад

    Thanks Shad, that was quite fascinating information, and the footage was excellent.

  • @tubekulose
    @tubekulose 5 лет назад +1

    Dear Shad, you explained the late medieval jousting manners very well in all of their facets. Thank you! :-)

  • @dyllbobaggins
    @dyllbobaggins 5 лет назад +4

    HAVE AT THEM BOYS!

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 5 лет назад +2

      *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

    • @orkwc3
      @orkwc3 5 лет назад +1

      DODGE THIS YOU BAAASTARRRDSSS!

  • @CowCommando
    @CowCommando 5 лет назад +24

    If someone else already said it, I can't find it. Half-lancing is a thing!?

    • @iamtj111
      @iamtj111 5 лет назад +1

      Tim Homer I know I had never heard of it before, but it makes sense

    • @CowCommando
      @CowCommando 5 лет назад

      @@iamtj111 Oh definitely, I had just never considered the possibility, and I find the name just rediculously fun to say.

  • @michaelgoldberg4000
    @michaelgoldberg4000 5 лет назад +20

    this is very interesting.
    thank you shad for the hard work.
    i hope to see more soon!
    and until that time, farewell.

  • @impendingdoom7920
    @impendingdoom7920 5 лет назад +1

    I can already tell by the thumbnail this is gonna be a great video

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 5 лет назад +1

    This reminds me of Heath Ledger's "A Knight's Tale"...a good, funny movie despite some inaccuracies.
    We will, we will rock you!!!

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop 5 лет назад +1

    The saddle in some ways can actually be more beneficial to the horse as it disperses the weight of its rider across a larger area of its back and it also helps to dissipate any impact from the natural bounce of a writer whilst the horse is in full stride.

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky 5 лет назад +2

    Not only weren't the rules set in stone nor universal but apparently a lot of tournaments of the bohurt kind were judged by a jury made up of all other contestants judging one's performance, technique, manners and overall presence of their fellow knights.

  • @UnstopablePatrik
    @UnstopablePatrik 5 лет назад +47

    Were there any MACHICOLATIONS at the event?

    • @aliedperez
      @aliedperez 5 лет назад +11

      but what about dragons?

    • @RocketHarry865
      @RocketHarry865 5 лет назад

      no because they weren't at a castle

  • @MANNY100123
    @MANNY100123 5 лет назад +1

    Really cool! Learned quite a bit about jousting thanks to this vid! G'stuff, Shad!

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven 5 лет назад +4

    Not gonna lie, I knew jousting sports was a thing because of the movie "Knight's Tale" starring Heath Ledger. It's a great movie imo, despite being very fictional, but at least quite historically authentic in some parts.

  • @lewisl5985
    @lewisl5985 5 лет назад

    The jousting was Epic ! much better than i expected ,ill defiantly go next year if it returns .iv been keen to find out a bit more info about it and BANG Shad makes a cool video in the subject ! THANKS SHAD wish i had of seen you there would have said hi

  • @toncraye
    @toncraye 5 лет назад +4

    I loved seeing all the cute sound effects.

  • @molyneux3056
    @molyneux3056 5 лет назад +1

    I was there and saw you doing your thing, but didn’t want to bother you. I took my little brother and had a great time. It was a great event. We even got a war hammer and went for a drink. Interesting seeing people walking around with weapons and alcohol.

  • @msbroomstick1
    @msbroomstick1 5 лет назад +1

    As a modern horseback rider who been forced to ride without stirrups for several of years now (due to injury) I find what you said about stirrups extremely perplexing. Though I can see how jousting would be possible without stirrups for the life of me I cannot understand why would anyone who's physically able, with this technology available to him, would do so for any reason besides added difficulty. It's immensely more affective and physically safer for both horse and rider. Why would it be attempted otherwisem is beyond me. Which also bring me to the second more minor point of contention, the reason for jousting without saddle being extremely rare is probably about the horse's wellbeing as much as his rider. Especially in this type of high impact sport it can permanently maime a horse. Even today, though we have newer training methods (by newer I mean about a couple of centuries old, not the decade old "natural riding") a jousting horse would still take a lot of time to be trained, and not every horse would be even able to learn it well enough for competitive sport.
    Unrelated if you would've asked the horse trainers I would bet none of them would have trained their horses in the late medieval european methods, some might not even know they ever existed, Even for a late medieval european sport! As those methods are not just a lot less effective, they are also needlessly cruel.
    *btw I learned most of my English from some very outdated books but I'm not a native speaker. That's why it reads a bit like an 11 year old trying to sound like an English litrature professor...

  • @richard6133
    @richard6133 5 лет назад +4

    Using the lance in two hands pre-dates the one-handed couched technique by quite a bit. It goes back to the cataphracts of the later Roman times, in use by the Byzantines and Parthians, amongst others. It actually goes back even further to the steppe peoples and Sarmatian peoples, it's just that the Romans documented it better during their times.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 5 лет назад +1

      That is basically ancient era saddles were garbage and lances were just spears but heavier. A medieval lance was modified over the Medieval period to be heavier over time but designed to be able to used in one hand and the bucket saddle allows to impart more force into a charge without worrying about being unhorsed.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Год назад

      Actually the sadles in roman times were not garbage. Roman cataphracts also charged couched 1 handed.

  • @johnleach8553
    @johnleach8553 5 лет назад +1

    Great video again. I have enjoyed a few live jousting tournaments here in Ontario Canada and loved them. Also enjoyed the brief Tv show heavy metal jousting or a similar name.

  • @tpmjg
    @tpmjg 5 лет назад +1

    1:32 Gotta love the Mordhau sound effect

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 5 лет назад

    Man, I love this channel.

  • @gsmadmax100
    @gsmadmax100 5 лет назад +1

    Grate vid Shazza , God sum of those hits look brutal. perhaps you can cover sum of the event highlights ? its nice to see sum proper fighting. MORE please !

  • @mrchips89vods23
    @mrchips89vods23 5 лет назад

    that looked like an epic day! I do plan on visiting Autralia sometime and maybe i can setup a day something like this is going down. New fan but really enjoy your work. Have fun and enjoy life!

  • @LauraDelvecchio
    @LauraDelvecchio 3 года назад

    I swear, at 12:40 that looks A LOT like Sir Edgeron from a medieval festival I went to a few years back. He was in the joust tournament as well, so I have reason to believe it is indeed him. Love your videos Shad!

  • @brotherandythesage
    @brotherandythesage 5 лет назад

    Wow cutting edge research thank you so much for making this video!

  • @rafilosofo
    @rafilosofo 5 лет назад +1

    About lance/spear: in portuguese we do not have two words for that, call both "lança". Even a javelin is sometimes called "lança".

  • @monadotheoneunovanwarrior4018
    @monadotheoneunovanwarrior4018 5 лет назад

    _I remember seeing you at the jousting. Was certainly a fun and very interesting event to have attended. I didn’t end up saying hello simply because I was a bit nervous and never really saw a good chance to without interrupting something. I’m a bit too self-conscious about interrupting things, you see. Although I do regret not doing it. I was fortunate that my mother got us vip tickets for both Saturday and Sunday, so that was a good things at least._

  • @TruckManThings
    @TruckManThings 5 лет назад

    LOVE the foppish "have at them bois" well played shad

  • @Divertedflight
    @Divertedflight 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, thank you very much!

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 5 лет назад +4

    1:35 SO exactly what it is in M&B. AHA! Mount and Blade triumphs again!
    edit: Of course in M&B you use wooden swords.

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti 5 лет назад

    Very nice video Shad!

  • @firebladeentertainment5739
    @firebladeentertainment5739 5 лет назад +13

    what about using mounted warfare techniques on a motorcycle? aka how could it be implemented today. (assuming that youre out of ammo for ranged weapons)
    also how useful would guns be in a world with strong magic?
    more fantasy stuff pls

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 5 лет назад

      Fireblade Entertainment there was a movie about the first part of your question, Knightriders (1981)

    • @firebladeentertainment5739
      @firebladeentertainment5739 5 лет назад

      @@Kathdath Lol, seriously?

  • @salgarellius7434
    @salgarellius7434 Год назад

    This is one of the best videos of shad

  • @sirnobilant8077
    @sirnobilant8077 5 лет назад

    I love the edits in this video

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky 5 лет назад +2

    Btw I love the idea of swinging a lance the other way around, that lever must produce ridiculous force

  • @DaFiischkopf
    @DaFiischkopf 5 лет назад

    Hey Shad.
    I have been to castle Ambras in Tyrol two weeks ago where I could take a look at a lot of Stechzeug from the Maximilian tradition of jousting from the 16th century. I would be very happy if you could look into the rules and equipment of that. They developed very interesting armour and even mechanical devices for all kinds of disciplines.
    Thanks for your amazing work and enthusiasm!

  • @schlawa
    @schlawa 5 лет назад

    Starting Saturday with a big smile :) Well done shad :)

  • @AntonEugeneLanthier
    @AntonEugeneLanthier 5 лет назад

    I was just wondering how were lances couched this morning, and Shad makes a video. Nice.

  • @be3469
    @be3469 5 лет назад

    This was a great video, I am particularly fond of your weapon discussions. When I first saw lance I thought you might talk about the "lance" as in the group consisting of a knight, squires, and men-at-arms so I got extremely excited. However, I realized after rereading the title that you were talking about the weapon. I still appreciated the information presented. However, I really wish you'd consider doing an in-depth video on squires and men-at-arms and their roles, armor, and equipment in combat. Especially skirmishs in a company.

  • @Leman.Russ.6thLegion
    @Leman.Russ.6thLegion 5 лет назад

    Very cool.
    My buddies and I used to weld a bike on top of another and ride double deckers around. We ended up making plastic armor and helmets and Jousted eachother on our tall bikes.

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio 5 лет назад +1

    Nice! Really awesome video!
    Thank you for sharing. Cheers!

  • @varkesh456
    @varkesh456 5 лет назад

    Some very nice insights here, a lot of food for thought, never knew it was that diverse

  • @lutobor13
    @lutobor13 5 лет назад +10

    What kind of wood do they use that it splinters so easily? St. George jousting tournament in Moscow that gathers people from all over Europe and US, uses same wood that was used in the past, so more people get knocked off horses.

    • @FreelancerND
      @FreelancerND 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, thought the same. AT St. George Tournament they use fir-tree lances which deliver quite a punch =)

    • @ElijsDima
      @ElijsDima 5 лет назад +1

      aussie wood?

    • @kylestanley7843
      @kylestanley7843 5 лет назад +1

      He said it in the video, if you paid attention. Pine, usually, it's softer and isn't good for a proper lance, therefore making it great where a proper lance is dangerous.

    • @lutobor13
      @lutobor13 5 лет назад

      @@kylestanley7843 so it's a show, not a tournament

    • @lred1383
      @lred1383 5 лет назад +1

      @@lutobor13 Guess what, the medieval tournaments were primarily for entertainment too. And there is still a tournament aspect to it, you need to stay in the saddle and try to make the lance break in a specific way.

  • @fredericrike5974
    @fredericrike5974 5 лет назад

    Glad to see you perusing the Royal Armoury. Your source work is always better than most, but in a while of following I had seen little reference to the RA- they've been "harboring" a bunch of retired mils, especially SAS for some time, and they have been working slowly and diligently to "reinvent" many aspect of Medieval combat. The few written guides were sparse on details, so they built a salle and started whacking. Les than 15 years ago the two handed use of the long sword or great sword was nearly unknown, and they've done a marvelous job. The info re "historically correct" jousting lances surprised me, as I have read that none of the whole lances had suvived, only a few butts and the metal shield. Watching "A Knight's Tale", shot in Eastern Europe, was a treat- the prop department's rendition of the jousting lance as a hollow multi part shaft, filled with something like spaghetti to make for a flashy break strikes me as very likely; it would make lethal accidents less prone and it would add a WoW factor for the audience. Would love to hear who came up with a whole lance of enough pieces to make a solid conclusion. Thanks for your usual good show!

  • @aksmex2576
    @aksmex2576 5 лет назад

    I once saw a show that was later cancelled, it was on jousting and was awesome. Glad to see it continued by others.

  • @theveryworstluck1894
    @theveryworstluck1894 3 года назад

    Best Shad thumbnail I've ever seen

  • @aspeclgift1712
    @aspeclgift1712 5 лет назад +30

    I was wondering if you could do an analysis of Hyrule Castle from Breath of the Wild.

    • @yetanother9127
      @yetanother9127 5 лет назад +3

      Just taking a look at it in-game, it looks like it does have a defensive wall with battlements around the outside (as well as another, outer wall enclosing Castle Town), but the castle building itself doesn't look particularly defense-oriented and seems to basically just be a regular palace.

    • @aspeclgift1712
      @aspeclgift1712 5 лет назад +3

      Yet Another I figured it would not be a perfect defensive structure. In fact it probably is not, I just like watching his videos on castle accuracy in various media. I also figured that it would be an interesting video.

  • @mattiabentivogli8144
    @mattiabentivogli8144 5 лет назад

    Awesome video as always

  • @meanstarfish
    @meanstarfish 5 лет назад

    nice and good video shad and the horses look very nice.
    some of the information i already new but learend alot of new things from you, i already did now some things because in my home town 1 time per year in the sommer there are knights games and that looks always awesome, cant wait for it to see this year again at castle Hoensbroek

  • @petrkucera3432
    @petrkucera3432 5 лет назад

    The more i watch your videos, the more i like your music by the end of your content. :D

  • @0Zolrender0
    @0Zolrender0 5 лет назад

    This is 14th and 15th Century jousting just by looking at the armour and shields. I love it when I see pictures of "Knight armour" where they indicate he was on foot, but you see rivited helms to the breastplate etc that just gives it away a pure jousting armour.

  • @antoinemonks4187
    @antoinemonks4187 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, super informative! I've got some cavalry action coming up in my novel so your timing could not have been more perfect. 👌

    • @elvenfellow8596
      @elvenfellow8596 2 года назад +1

      Whats the novel called. Have you published/finished it?

    • @antoinemonks4187
      @antoinemonks4187 2 года назад

      @@elvenfellow8596 The title is up in the air sorta and it's not published yet but just needs some polish before I start on that merry-go-round:)
      I can't believe this comment is two years old already :o What am I doing with my life XD

  • @chancewilson2752
    @chancewilson2752 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Shad, love your content. Always look forward to seeing what’s next. I’ve been around for some time now, and I was wondering if you’d consider doing a series on different formations/battle strategies for the different time periods. maybe you could talk about how weapon evolutions changed the way battles were fought. I know you usually only do mid evil periods. But... perhaps you could go into seperate cultures and the differences between them. I don’t know. Just thought it be cool. You always go into great detail about your content. Figured it’d be quite interesting to learn about some genuine strategies that were actually used. I’m rambling... sorry.

  • @OchibaKid
    @OchibaKid 5 лет назад +3

    Fun fact: in french we use the word "lance" for "lance" and "spear" ;)

    • @RyuFireheart
      @RyuFireheart 5 лет назад

      Same for portuguese

    • @DZ-1987
      @DZ-1987 5 лет назад

      Funner fact.
      Funner is not a word, but other than that; A lance is made of wood.
      *surprised pikachu face*

    • @fernandouseodysee5027
      @fernandouseodysee5027 5 лет назад

      It is the same in spanish.