Never fix people. I learned this in my 20s and stopped. When I was young, in my teens, late teens and early 20s, I was attracted to people that were broken and I tried to help them and fix them, I sympathized with their pain, I was sucked into the black hole. I can easily sympathize with someone and feel their pain and just easily feel down and emotional and can get sucked in. I have to be very careful to watch out for myself and protect me. Cuz when you try to fix someone, are there for them and when that person gets healed or feel better, they’ll leave you and you’ll be there heartbroken and wonder why they left. I’m just glad I woke up and realized this on my own in my 20s, and I stopped and stayed AWAY from broken people. They really need a therapist and professional help, rather than a venus 12th house. We deserve love and care that’s equal. I had to learn to love myself in my late 20s to now my 30s. I’m still on the journey, it can be hard, but, healing too and empowering and I get to center myself and get to know me and be more aware of me and others and really stay away from narcissistic people. They are my fear. I grew up with physical, mental and emotional abuse in my home, so narcissistic people scare me and I’m watchful of them, my father is one. I have to say, I think I’m dealing with this aspect decently as I grow. I’m an artist/creative soul, I escape through my creativity and music, it helps SO MUCH, that’s my fav thing about Venus in 12th house💖✨ As for love, idk, sometimes I feel like, no one is meant for me, like I’m just not enough for someone. But somehow also, I believe in love and soulmates. The one thing that pains me about this placement the most, is loving people unconditionally and expecting nothing back....HOW?!?!😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔 that like kills my moon Taurus opposite pluto Scorpio 😭💔 Too painful😞 It honestly makes me wanna cry, is like to understand how, how does one love anyone but not expect anything back?! What a HEARTACHE!!😭😞💔💔💔💔
Alot of people going through alot are also fighting their own darkness. If you pick up a snake and nurse it back to health it will bite you once it's better. Injecting you with a deadly poison. You might call it unfair but their just behaving in their true nature. After all you knew they were a snake when you picked them up.
Love doesn't hurt. Realizing patterns. Healing. This is me. Also all things are temporary, impermanent. Yes over and over I ask why people treat me so badly, they say - don't get ahead of yourself. I don't keep betraying you, you keep letting me down. No. Fucked up. Unconditional love without boundaries is self destruction. Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries.
Thank you, this is one of the most beautiful interpretations I have heard of this placement. Through every relationship, whether it is family, friends, coworkers, strangers, crushes…… I discover deeper unhealed parts of myself that when I heal, I get to experience self love in a more deeper and beautiful way. It is truly a blessings to get the opportunity to learn to walk with yourself on this earth in such a connected way. And for those that are struggling, I wish to share with you that you are never alone. As the purest and deepest love I have ever experienced was through silence where I allowed myself to commune with the universe with an open heart. We really have the gift of connecting with the universe in the deepest way in this lifetime. And the universe is unconditional love without the limits of the physical world. Much love ❤️
Thank you so much! Would love for you to join my 12th house group on Facebook and you would like my book :) www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
Thank you so much. I am Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Every partner I have had has been troubled in some way and each one betrayed me repeatedly. More recently, my best friend of over 20 years did the same thing and betrayed me. There is another deep soul connection I have had - he too has betrayed me. I have given so much love and loyalty to these people and in return been betrayed. Their heartlessness has shocked me. I have no romantic connections or friendships with anyone anymore. Something else has happened to me - a romantic jealousy which has become monstrous. Even though I am single, I can no longer watch TV shows or films with attractive women in them. The sight of women often enrages me. It seems to have got worse with each betrayal and now I don't dare meet anyone or watch certain shows for fear of it being triggered. However, your video has really helped me. Thank you.
I’m so sorry this happened to you Betrayal leaves many scars I understand the triggering feelings It’s best to avoid those memories that make you feel bad or upset Sending hugs ❤️🌹
This is the most accurate description I've found online and off on Venus in the 12th. I have this placement, out of bounds and in Sag. Heartbroken forever, nothing would fix it, and it starts and ends with loving yourself. We do love unconditionally. I wish I can find another 12H Venus Man, I think that would be the godsend, if there were.
Thank you for sharing and for your kind words ❤️🙏🏻🌹 You need to get my 12th house book :) www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
My love has Venus in the 12th and I am so blessed and thankful that he came into my life. I love how he loves me and will never take him for granted! I’m a Pisces rising and so is he so we are very Pisces/Neptunian! He has been hurt though in the past but he still trusts me and our connection is beyond this world. ♥️ so just want to let you Venus in the 12th people know that it IS possible to find that love you’re looking for.
Thank you for this! Please continue making videos. I believe that with each relationship, Venus in the 12th house learns more about him/herself. And as they are passing through different relationships in life, they get closer and closer to who they are. Not sure if they have a sould mate, but Venus in 12th house definately grows through relationships I believe. And if they move on after a relationship, they will find another person that opens up another part of the personality which is there to grow. Has anyone heard of a Venus in 12 being in a relationship with another Venus in 12th? I'd like to hear about that
I have Venus in cancer in 12th house and everything you said is true. I am 66 yrs of age end of July and I finally hear myself say. I love my family and my long term friends and this is enough for me now. I am no longer longing for the romantic love. It feels so liberating. I love the capacity I have for compassion and empathy and I am very discerning in this. If I don’t be I have found that I enable others to take from me or use me. Glad I understand this now as my relating is becoming equal
I have venus in scorpio and in 12th house... I have same experience and gone through dark night of the soul as they say it was im in my darkest moment for years and 6months of pain body thats the time i hear my self tell me to stop and wakeup. Then now im loving my self more more and more😁
Thankyou for this, it was so insightful, accurate and helpful to hear this. I have a Venus in Gemini in the 12th and have had a history of narcissist abuse. When I finally learns that my true love is within and that no one can abandon me but myself, my life has been upleveled. I have been alone for 6 years. Thankyou, I’m so glad I found this, so affirming.
@islandbooks Thank you! You might like my new book coming out this summer it’s available for pre order now The Mysteries of the Twelfth Astrological House: Fallen Angels Here is the link to my website www.8and12houses.com
Hi Carmen, when I found my birth chart I noticed that I had the placement of Venus in the 12th house (Cancer). Then I started to research and stumbled across your website which really helped me understand a lot of what happens there with that placement. I I was absolutely astounded because growing up in the church they don’t teach astrology and boy did I learn a lot of toxic things that have surrounded my love life. For many years I remembered as a kid that I had a ton of secret crushes. None of the guys wanted to acknowledge that they were seeing me. Normally people found out because I would put the info out and these guys would respond absolutely humiliated although in private they’d reveal to me “I was one of the prettiest girls they’d pursued”. Then as I got older I ended up involved in a bunch of relationships with men who were clearly unavailable. I’ve noticed with this placement there is a chance that the opposite person of this energy might avoid taking pictures and the relationships extend very long with not a sign in sight that the Vin12th exist. I’ve been celibate for extended periods of time and once I put myself out there it’s as if these toxic partners are still waiting for me. It’s tons of partners that I feel these connections toward and I learned that to end the cycle of karma these multiple partners might exist until karma is complete. Most recently I think finally I got to my wits end after I was ghosted by someone who seemed extremely smitten by me. I do not know how to determine when someone has real interest for me at this point in my life. I’ve never had a boyfriend or experienced a mutual love yet. I’ve just known to care for people intensely without them proving anything and it hurts.
Thank you for sharing your story. Please check out my website at www.8and12houses.com where I have many videos and articles. I have a 12th House Astrology Group on FB you should join us! Many Venus in 12th folks in there. Sending love to you. I have a few articles I wrote about astrology and christianity if you are interested in reading you can email me through my website :)
Venus in cancer 12H!!! Thank you for this, it brought tears to my eyes. I'm 35. im just learning about what love is it had been a tough journey!!! But your video encouraged me. Thank you so much!!!
Very well explained cant thank you more for clearly explaining what Venus 12 house has to go through. Enough of the emotional turmoil and the dejection and character assassination one has to go through especially with Vwnus in 12 house - they are divine souls who connect with the needy invest time energy to bring back ppl from their dismal depths of abyss and once they are normal they just leave Us without any trace - with no gratitude and respect in return, leaving aside love and reciprocation of feelings. Take Away: Love only your self!
Thank you for sharing and happy you liked the video My new book is available on Amazon it’s all about the 12th house and chapter dedicated to this issue ❤️ Here is the link www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2QTXO0FQBVVEA&keywords=12th+house+astrology&qid=1657890033&sprefix=12th+house%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-1
This is the realest facts about Venus in the 12H I have ever heard!!! Seriously , great job for this. As sad as this sounds , it is so true it brings tears to my damn eyes!!!
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Don't sell yourself so short ! Your videos are so informative and you are so relatable ! This is from a Scorpio with 3 planets in 8th house! Pisces rising. Cancer Moon .... I've missed you !!!!
That was really great explained :) people with this placement only feel valued when they help others and this is programmed in them from childhood It took my a lot of inner child work to understand and start to value myslef for who I am.
Thank you for sharing I’m happy you found it resonates with your learning and experiences I have a 12th house FB group of you would like to join www.8and12houses.com
You make me cry with this video... I know this is the true and I feel it , but I am tired of this pattern - attract broken people and I have to be rahabilitation centur... why?! Other people meet good "mates" and I didn't deserve the same!? In my life I've always done things alone and when I allow somebody enters my life( this is rare thing- just few few people) the final result is - my heart is broken... I am greatful that I found your video in this time, beacause now I am feeling so so lonely a cause to the last person I open my heart to, after years being alone and enjoing myself. This relationship doesn't last long, because I felt there is something wrong and yeah I was right - the person is still emotionaly attached to his ex (he remember to tell me this when I open a serios conversation that he is hiding smth from me and I felt it). This broke me...not the person in himself, but that it's the same old story - I decide to open my heart ( it's so difficult for me) and again something it's not available and I found this when it's late!!! I don' t know what to do... I want to love and be love ...create family❤❤❤ If somebody knows how to brake this cyrcle I am open for wisdom and knowledge! Thank you! Wish you the best💞🍀💫
Zhanet Zhekova thank you for sharing You are not alone and you can break the pattern Don’t allow more heartbreak into your life You can see the red flags and listen to your self and your gut Watch my other video on how to heal from heartbreak I posted the other day and give tips 🌹🌹💙
I loved your 12th house sun video. I have sun in the twelfth house. I have spiritual dreams and once seen the fifth dimension in my dreams. Your videos were very detailed and relatable. Bravo.
Wow. 💯 accurate. I have Taurus 12 House (with a a stellium of Sun, Mercury and Mars )…I’ve heard it’s the same as having the planet there; so I listened to you to see how true is that, and boy oh boy…it’s uncanny!!! Thank you ❤❤
Thank you for sharing 🌹❤️ You might like my new book and I’m doing a research study about 12th house If you want to participate email me at carmentschott@gmail.com
Woah! Welcome back Miss Carmen. I watched one of your videos on North Node in Pisces (Pt1) and was bowled over by the level of accuracy in your observations about this placement, because I have this placement, and a bunch of stuff in the 8th house. So, your channel has been very valuable to me. Good to see you back
@@CarmenTurnerSchott This exact video helped me so much in understanding what actually makes me happy, I'm 31 years old and it took me till then to realise I wasn't really enjoying what I was doing. I'm a Libra with many Libra houses, Pisces North Node, Virgo South node :) (Interestingly I recently moved house with new housemates, one is also Pisces North and the other is Virgo North). Hoping for the Pt2 someday ^_^
I actually love the audio in this video, it’s perfectly clear and feels like a dream haha I love it. Thank you for the content! It’s definitely resonating for me.
Welcome back! Accurate and excellent video with, as always, superb advice. I'm a venus 12th houser. In fact, I have a 12th house stellium. It feels as though this year's theme for myself is to really confront, accept and embrace the venus 12th house lessons. Seeing it for what it is, so to speak. I have to stop applying vaseline to my eyeballs and see individuals for who they are, relationship wise and become more militant, cold in a way. I always attract the 'broken ones'. In fact, the ones with traumatic mother issues. The inevitable happens and either a few years or months later, they return from their pilgrimage, kneeling at my feet, asking / begging for forgiveness. I've gone back once but ended it not long after. From then on, I take the apology but instead, I keep it moving without them (not even as friends). They are completely cut out. That's why I also feel that sometimes us venus 12th housers possibly, well maybe, are used subconsciously via their spiritual path as a tool in aiding the individual to transform their pain, for them to confront it in a way. When this happens, we are not to take it seriously, as we are just the teacher and they are the pupil. Again, not all the time but I do recognise when this happens. When I do encounter a painful experience of betrayal, lies, ghosting, you name it, I've trained myself to believe they do not exist. It didn't happen. It works the majority of the time but most recently, it hasn't but as I've said earlier, it's time for me to embrace the 12th house venus lessons full on, face to face. Time, indeed, to love myself, love and adhere to my platinum boundaries plus stop purchasing vaseline as well 😂. Again, welcome back and thank you x
Thank you so much for sharing your story and I am so sorry for the pain you have experienced. I know what it's like. It's a day to day progress for me and we always learn by experience. So happy you found my videoes helpful :) www.8and12houses.com not sure if you had my website.
Stelium here as well, the same story, seems like to get to spirituality through torture in love life and traumatic experiences, put wall around my heart for years, now learning to open it again...
Thank you. This is so spot on in describing my experience. I appreciate your view of the gifts this brings as well as the advice to appreciate your boundaries and look for spiritual love elsewhere. Someone once told me “if they look like a project or feel like a project and they can’t stand shoulder to shoulder with you, run!”
I have Venus in cancer in 12th house and everything you said is true. I am 66 yrs of age end of July and I finally hear myself say. I love my family and my long term friends and this is enough for me now. I am no longer longing for the romantic love. It feels so liberating
Ive got venus in virgo house 12 yes i put people on pedestal n when they disappoint me do get very sad but each time i learn something from it and keep getting better in my myself. The house purpose of this house is to HEAL THYSELF. Thankfully venus in virgo means we can get over others with a bit of ease
Ok ... so Carmen, my beautiful seer. This video hits close to home as you have always had the ability to articulate in my personal story. Love? At 50? Such an enigma. Not just as it relates to romantic love, but live in general. I lovd wholly and deeply. I am not a person who translates the word love lightly. Ivd been hurt. Unjustifiably and the scars run deep my friend. Romantically, personally, spiritually. Thank you for your video. You were the voice that spoke do eloquently as I deep fove into my natal placements. Such resonance with your words The deep wounding of the experiences. Such a relatable occurrence. I attract broken people. I send them on their way because I am not broken. I am a healer. But, I want to help, not hinder. Do, I isolate. Thank you for this video. I absolutely relate and am in healing mode. In an isolated state. Because I've been hurt so deeply by people I trusted and adored. It is tough to resurface. I dont know if I ever could. But, I'm learning to love the part of me that gives so freely. Not many of us like this. Venus in 12th,? We are martyrs. We give to receive in spirit. People dont understand us. Thxnk you for your validation.
Lori Lotts You love like the love of the Angels and most can’t touch it or ever reciprocate You will rise on wings like eagles 🦅 We must re-emerge I learned this past five years as I hid There are so many hurting people or there who need YOU and your unconditional love Only give to those who need it and deserve it 🙏🏻🌹💙
Definitely one of my most difficult placements,, I have Venus in sagittarius in my 12th house. Feels like im always looking for someone who I cant have or is so emotionally unavailable just to try my best to fix them or make it work,, but at the end of the day when I end up feeling that they are not the one or that there isn’t so much of a chagelle anymore I just end up walking away. Feels like im always looking for a deeper connection but no one ever feels enough,,, and that just makes me feel so bad about myself, as if im selfish and no one is good enough for me:-/
Thank you for sharing - It’s very hard and many times we have to go through this karma and experience Once we learn the blessings of Venus in 12 we won’t suffer anymore We have to love ourself and not seek soulmate etc as it’s all part our learning You can attract healthy partners and those who you don’t have to fix when the time is right 🌹💙
Hey Carmen, I was trying to find a video that'd help me cope with my Venus in 12th House and I stumbled upon your video and I'm so glad I did! Everything you said made so much sense to me. I've had two toxic relationships which have given me an immense amount of heartbreak but the second one did ignite an epiphany about how I must learn to love myself more than anything else. And I've been on this journey for a while now, regaining myself and showering my love to my dear ones in every way I can and watching your video made me v happy. I do feel like I'm different from other people, I tend to soak in all sorts of emotions and it can get lonely and melancholic sometimes but then I also feel like all this empathy inside me must be put to work, to help others. I'd always feel like this placement is a burden but after hearing you talk about its many gifts, I'm going to concentrate more on the positive aspects of it and hone them. Again, I'm so glad I found you. Please try to upload more videos, you have such a calming presence. God bless! :)
Thank you so much for sharing 💙🙏🏻🌹 so happy you found the video You might like to visit my website at www.8and12houses.com I also have a 12th house FB group you should join us 🌹
Thank you for this video! I have NO idea about astrology, houses etc! As a Christian I keep thinking if God put the stars in the sky, there must be more! Then I found you! Thanks again!
I have this placement along with my Sun there and I have come to this same conclusion over the years. I also appreciated your original video about this placement as well because it really hit home on some of the most painful difficulties I've experienced with this placement. So glad to see you back, Carmen! 🤗
My Venus is in Virgo 12th House Thank you 💔 I understand the blessings of this placement 💞L xxx July 15 2024 7am 🌙💔And thank you for your moon in the 8th H video. For me it’s Taurus
Love your channel and the calm energy you bring. Your work resonantes with my water sign houses. I AM, Sun in Aries (12th house), Venus in Aries(12th House), Chiron (12th house, Moon in Sagittarius (8th House), Neptune (8th house). I have a gift where i can almost instantly tell if a potential partner is emotionally unavailable. I can also sense, especially with Scorpios when they are hiding things (lying) and especially their feelings. For these reasons, i don't chase relationships or love. Most relationships that have presented themselves have been spiritual, short-lived and all about growth experiences, serving their purposes, until i relocate to a different city or country.
I am a moon and saturn in 12th house and have a lifelong attachment to a 12th house venus person. I think we are both intrigued by the mes we see in each other, but are suspicious of each other makes long haul bonding really difficult. But the amount of self mirroring and lessons about self are tremendous here depending on your age, wisdom or openness to the paradoxes of life
1000%, everything you said 😭 thank you for this amazing video and your astute and beautiful insights. you’re truly helping me change myself and my life for the better🙏🏼💓✨
Thank you so much for sharing❤️🌹 I a so happy to hear this you made my day You might be interested in my website www.8and12houses.com I have a new book about the 12th house you might like I have author copies that I ordered and am selling if you want a signed copy Or you can pre order on Amazon
Wow, I discovered your videos a few days ago and now I saw that you started to do videos again. I have Venus, Sun,Moon -12 house Leo and Mercury and Mars in Virgo 12th house.
I tend to attract men (and female friends) with twelth house placements. I am libra with Venus in Scorpio (end of 11th house...Vedic says 12th), square Saturn in 8th. I also have moon in 4th house. Currently love a man w Capricorn Venus in twelth. His moon is Scorpio in 8th, with Aqua sun and Taurus mars! Even with frustrations, I insist on staying until he allows himself to love and be loved. If through our relationship he is able to become closer to his dreams-to give and receive true unconditional love, that will be enough. Thank you. I love your videos. ❤️
I am SO happy you are back. I stumbled across this new vidoe and I am so excited for you. I noticed an echo on this video. So double check on this. I dont have Venus in 12th but is sounds like the same situation with my moon in the 8th and my Venus in scorpio. My virgo sun, uranus, dark moon Lilith and pluto is in 12th.
That is an interesting combo. I would be interested in hearing your experience. I only have Venus in 12th conjunct Sun. I would think it would manifest slightly differently but similar energy.
There might be struggles between wanting peaceful relationships and wanting challenging partners that you can’t have Loving and being attracted to people that are not free Hidden love and passion Secretive love nature and anger rage passion sex can be used as escape from world and problems
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My crush, who has Venus in Gemini conjunct Chiron in 12 th house, said that his previous relationships were with women in need, women with a wound. He said he didn’t felt that with me. I’ve told him that I liked him a lot! And then he pulled away…. I asked him what he wanted. He said he needed time, felt unhappy and unstable . He told me he had like a “up day “ when i was with him . And when I wasn’t there and went home he felt very low…. It was difficult for him to feel stable . We can’t be together ( his choise) due to a huge age difference…. I just want him to be happy in life, with or without me. I gave him space and didn’t contact him, it’s been 2 weeks….
Are they like all talk but no real emotions shown by them? You want to dive deep with them but somehow they want only everyday stuffs and only have fun? I let a go a person who I had relationship for 8 months he had Aries Venus in the 3rd me Sag Venus in the 12th. Although we dont communicate anymore I wanted to know more about him all those 8 months, it makes me sad. I mean I know a lot of thinks about him, but I dont know I wanted maybe smth deeper.
I’m curious to know what your interpretation of Venus in 12th house Davison chart would be. I feel like I could write an essay explaining this situation but so much of this description resonates with what has been happening between us. I’m wondering if it should be left in the dream world or if there is any hope for a possible future in reality. Lol. In our synastry his Mars is totally unaspected so I’m thinking he’s all talk and no action.
Thank you for sharing For relationships when planets are in 12th I find a similar energy manifests a secretive energy and uncomfortable I’m certain area depending on planets there Venus there would be hidden and affection and love might be challenge and karmic learning regarding love and expression of love in the relationship It might feel like relationship is not real or others don’t know about it or see it
The 12th house represents the subconcious collective a place where we all were once united. In this house people suffer when they hold on to things. In this house anysort of ego and any intention to use energy for self benefit causes suffering. Any planet here represent a aspect of your life that has been repressed deemed unacceptable and frowned upon developing a sense of fear shame and huge sensitivity when it comes to expressing this energy. Planets here are not yours to fully claim this does not mean you cant benefit from it planets here are not meant to be a secret, it turns into one if you have ego and wanna claim it for yourself. Here is asking you to sacrifice this planet to the collective to trancend this planet. In this case of venus the 12 house is asking you express it and incorporate it within you. Unlike in the first house where your fully aware of the planets enegy it's fully yours to take and using it for self benefit. In the 12 is asking you to be the representation of all the things that venus is and give it to the collective love on to the collective give your beauty away give everything you repressed and you wanted to eliminate on to the world give this away unconditionally. Like this youll transcend youll be remembered as a venus Icon youll leave a legacy. Like this youll have an awareness of how all of us are trully divine and beautifull including yourself developing a sense of pride and ego thats of the collective and not yours only. Youll feel that the universe is communicating through you what does it mean to be truly beautiful and what love truly is representing all of us. Like this venus transcends and makes itself visible not only for you but for all. Like this the right people will come to you with healthy intentions dont sabotage it now that you had someone see that something that you yourself repressed and deemed unworthy none existent. Put your boundaries set what you want out of it cause we all have the right for a healthy relationship. And if its time to let go and say good bye youll do it! And trasncend once more!. Theres beauty and love when you let go!. In life people get rejected relationships end and begin all we have to do is to take the memories we collected and enjoyed and give that away returning back the same love that the universe has given you back into the collective. If you have any 12th house placements the worst you can do its to keep it a secret like this you suffer and face your undoing. If you want to benefit from the placement give it away. In this case venus Love everything so everything can love u back put yourself out there! We all are worthy of love and admiration. This why venus in pisces is exalted and when its in the 12th thats the lesson you have to learn. Venus in the 1st is in detriment just like when its aries love and beauty shouldnt be our the measure of our value and we shouldn build our identity upon it we all are beautiful and divine we all have something thats is worth of admiration. Separate and know your place be realistic but keep in mind at the end of the day we all are made up of the same things. The more you repress and opress this placements the more visible will be for others and the less visible for you.
@@p9782 giving unconditionally to the collective can be done in manyways all you have to do is embody the planets energy to benefit all if its venus you could perhaps use ur artistic talents and beauty to make money and donate some of it to children in need, perhaps also beautifying a certain individual out of desire for them to feel beautiful not because u want to make money out of it create art beautiful paintaings to enrich people minds you can also create a career out of venus although you benefit financially you also giving to the collective. Jupiter means share your spirituality your wisdom your positivity out of love to humanity those who listen will take it and will remember your for it. If its mars encourage people to stand up for themselves be the representation of what it means to be strong in the world fight for a cause and win it win for all of us who couldnt do it share your passion. People who leaved an everlasting impression on to the world where 12th house people. Britneys spears was 12th house mars she was know for her sexuality her drive and her passion for the things she loved and she is remeber for her stamina. Mariah carey and french singer alizee . have venus in the 12th they are remembered for their extraordinary beauty that they shared with all of us and used without intentions to benefits themselves instead just out of joy to share the feeling with all. This people did that and the collective rewarded them. A 12 th house planets inprint on the world is for a life time and never fades is much stronger than a first house planet, but only when its fully expressed and the individual recognizes its self worth and moves beyond its own sensitivity and feelings of shame.
Your explanations are so beautiful. You are so so so knowledgeable on the subject. Could you please give more examples of how a Venus in the 12th house can be selfless and give their Venus out to the world? I appreciate this so much by the way!
Thank you or sharing 😊❤️ you might like my book www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
I have Venus in my 12th house and in Scorpio, I have trouble opening up to people romantically, but I love my friends and myself with all my heart and I am content 💓
Thank you for sharing. I think that this placement is a blessing and a curse. We can be shy and avoid being hurt, but sometimes we feel so strongly for others we lose all touch with reality and seeing people clearly and often those are the toxic folks who like to use us. Visit my website at www.8and12houses.com and you can contact me through there. I have a 12th house FB group you might want to join :) Carmen
It seems as though I can actually feel the love and purity residing within your heart.... You are a gift.. The pleasant tone, sincerety , the thoughtful expression delivered so naturally and eloquently, is very much appreciated... Whatever difficulties and hardships that you've had to endure, have chiseled away any imperfections that you may have deemed present, and left a masterpiece of serenity for the masses to aspire towards... I truly hope that you are as genuine as you seem...for you inspire me to seek the depths in search of the one that I wish to be.... I believe that we all possess that which we desire and search for, but, not all have a clear path nor clear waters to navigate, while we push forward in our unique purpose... Thank you Carmen... Blessings...
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mary weather I took a break from consultations for a few years now but I might be able to start up again It would have to be a weekend my job keeps me busy traveling
I find such feelings fulfilled when I am swaying no a boat with a big full moon hanging in the sky in the ocean when I travel. Recently found out the man I was crushing on has the same triple Mars Pluto Saturn conjunction as my dad? I bet he was always confused about my affections. That can be something to look into.
That’s soooo acurate, Carmen! 😢 With Venus in tight orb conjunction with Cheiron in 12th house in Cancer.... and Venus square Mars, trine Pluto, opposite Neptune, sextile Moon. I feel like alien and lost when comes on relationships. Recently, I had a crush with someone who I fell in love with very unexpectedly, but it was only very short and painful episode. His Venus in my 12th house. He was married and open to have an affair...:-/ I always feel like “the second one”, but I learn myself to think I am worth to be “the first one”. Lots of love, Tyna
12th House: Venus in Leo, Mercury in Leo, Mars in Cancer, Jupiter in Cancer 8th House: Chiron in Pisces, Saturn in Pisces 1st House: Sun in Leo, Moon in Virgo North Node: Taurus in 10th Love your videos, TY!
omg i just found this after i felt guided to seek venus in 12th house. yes i have sun, venus, pluto in 12th house also with chiron in 7th house 😢😢😢😢😢 i feel so unlucky in love... i gave too much and i had nothing to give anymore... im heart broken
GOD loves you unconditionaly 🎉❤😊🎉❤🎉🎉 Its not that hard as you are talking. It is not good to feel the victime all the time, couse you are not. You can create your own reality 🎉😊😊🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤ Venus in 12 House in Gemini ♊ knows how to Love themself. They like to learn all the time new things. They are intelectual, they like Smart inteligent People. Always learning somthing New.....🎉❤🎉😊😊❤❤❤🎉 Intelect # talking # knowladge # eatch healing #
Taurus sun and moon taurus in chiron and mercury in Taurus and venus In the 12th what can I say I could take a punch which I'm tire of and releasing myself from.
So basically I’m a fool. Everyone else gets to feel cool love and I have to experience strong earth shattering shit that only I will ever give two shits about….Hahahha nice. I have to find a woman with V12H to feel truly loved. Now how the fuck do I do that without being creepy and strange in public?
You made me laugh but I feel the same way lol 😂 I’m Venus in 12th Start asking to see peoples charts before you date them that’s what I used to do after I kept picking unavailable people
Never fix people. I learned this in my 20s and stopped. When I was young, in my teens, late teens and early 20s, I was attracted to people that were broken and I tried to help them and fix them, I sympathized with their pain, I was sucked into the black hole. I can easily sympathize with someone and feel their pain and just easily feel down and emotional and can get sucked in. I have to be very careful to watch out for myself and protect me. Cuz when you try to fix someone, are there for them and when that person gets healed or feel better, they’ll leave you and you’ll be there heartbroken and wonder why they left. I’m just glad I woke up and realized this on my own in my 20s, and I stopped and stayed AWAY from broken people. They really need a therapist and professional help, rather than a venus 12th house. We deserve love and care that’s equal. I had to learn to love myself in my late 20s to now my 30s. I’m still on the journey, it can be hard, but, healing too and empowering and I get to center myself and get to know me and be more aware of me and others and really stay away from narcissistic people. They are my fear. I grew up with physical, mental and emotional abuse in my home, so narcissistic people scare me and I’m watchful of them, my father is one. I have to say, I think I’m dealing with this aspect decently as I grow. I’m an artist/creative soul, I escape through my creativity and music, it helps SO MUCH, that’s my fav thing about Venus in 12th house💖✨ As for love, idk, sometimes I feel like, no one is meant for me, like I’m just not enough for someone. But somehow also, I believe in love and soulmates. The one thing that pains me about this placement the most, is loving people unconditionally and expecting nothing back....HOW?!?!😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔 that like kills my moon Taurus opposite pluto Scorpio 😭💔 Too painful😞
It honestly makes me wanna cry, is like to understand how, how does one love anyone but not expect anything back?! What a HEARTACHE!!😭😞💔💔💔💔
Thank you for sharing 🌹❤️
Alot of people going through alot are also fighting their own darkness.
If you pick up a snake and nurse it back to health it will bite you once it's better. Injecting you with a deadly poison.
You might call it unfair but their just behaving in their true nature. After all you knew they were a snake when you picked them up.
Love doesn't hurt. Realizing patterns. Healing. This is me. Also all things are temporary, impermanent.
Yes over and over I ask why people treat me so badly, they say - don't get ahead of yourself. I don't keep betraying you, you keep letting me down. No. Fucked up.
Unconditional love without boundaries is self destruction. Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries.
I felt too, my Venus in 12th Aries 😭
My love has this aspect. I love him dearly and want to learn about this placement to love him better
The echo kinda sounds like a movie when you get advice in a dream from an angel or something. Great video ☺️
Thank you :)
Very otherworldly
"12" house like
I instantly thought of 'water' and so appropriate for 12th house.
Thank you, this is one of the most beautiful interpretations I have heard of this placement. Through every relationship, whether it is family, friends, coworkers, strangers, crushes…… I discover deeper unhealed parts of myself that when I heal, I get to experience self love in a more deeper and beautiful way. It is truly a blessings to get the opportunity to learn to walk with yourself on this earth in such a connected way.
And for those that are struggling, I wish to share with you that you are never alone. As the purest and deepest love I have ever experienced was through silence where I allowed myself to commune with the universe with an open heart. We really have the gift of connecting with the universe in the deepest way in this lifetime. And the universe is unconditional love without the limits of the physical world. Much love ❤️
Thank you so much! Would love for you to join my 12th house group on Facebook and you would like my book :)
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Thank you so much. I am Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Every partner I have had has been troubled in some way and each one betrayed me repeatedly. More recently, my best friend of over 20 years did the same thing and betrayed me. There is another deep soul connection I have had - he too has betrayed me. I have given so much love and loyalty to these people and in return been betrayed. Their heartlessness has shocked me. I have no romantic connections or friendships with anyone anymore. Something else has happened to me - a romantic jealousy which has become monstrous. Even though I am single, I can no longer watch TV shows or films with attractive women in them. The sight of women often enrages me. It seems to have got worse with each betrayal and now I don't dare meet anyone or watch certain shows for fear of it being triggered. However, your video has really helped me. Thank you.
I’m so sorry this happened to you
Betrayal leaves many scars I understand the triggering feelings
It’s best to avoid those memories that make you feel bad or upset
Sending hugs ❤️🌹
This is the most accurate description I've found online and off on Venus in the 12th. I have this placement, out of bounds and in Sag. Heartbroken forever, nothing would fix it, and it starts and ends with loving yourself. We do love unconditionally. I wish I can find another 12H Venus Man, I think that would be the godsend, if there were.
Thank you for sharing and for your kind words ❤️🙏🏻🌹
You need to get my 12th house book :)
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I am here for you ninaaaaa ❤
@@RajNUK Raaaj ❤️❤️❤️ We found love in a hopeless place. 🤣
@@CarmenTurnerSchott I WILL🙏
@@ninacappy haha don’t say hopeless, sometimes you can find diamond in a bin! 😂
My love has Venus in the 12th and I am so blessed and thankful that he came into my life. I love how he loves me and will never take him for granted! I’m a Pisces rising and so is he so we are very Pisces/Neptunian! He has been hurt though in the past but he still trusts me and our connection is beyond this world. ♥️ so just want to let you Venus in the 12th people know that it IS possible to find that love you’re looking for.
Thank you for this! Please continue making videos.
I believe that with each relationship, Venus in the 12th house learns more about him/herself. And as they are passing through different relationships in life, they get closer and closer to who they are. Not sure if they have a sould mate, but Venus in 12th house definately grows through relationships I believe. And if they move on after a relationship, they will find another person that opens up another part of the personality which is there to grow.
Has anyone heard of a Venus in 12 being in a relationship with another Venus in 12th? I'd like to hear about that
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻
Pluto in the 12th house conjuct asc dealing with a Venus in the 12 lth house pisces guy
This is the best explanation of Venus in the 12th. Having this placement, it really touched me and I find it to be so accurate.
Donna Barber Thank you for sharing and so happy you found it helpful 💙🌹
I have Venus in cancer in 12th house and everything you said is true. I am 66 yrs of age end of July and I finally hear myself say. I love my family and my long term friends and this is enough for me now. I am no longer longing for the romantic love. It feels so liberating. I love the capacity I have for compassion and empathy and I am very discerning in this. If I don’t be I have found that I enable others to take from me or use me. Glad I understand this now as my relating is becoming equal
I have venus in scorpio and in 12th house... I have same experience and gone through dark night of the soul as they say it was im in my darkest moment for years and 6months of pain body thats the time i hear my self tell me to stop and wakeup. Then now im loving my self more more and more😁
Thankyou for this, it was so insightful, accurate and helpful to hear this.
I have a Venus in Gemini in the 12th and have had a history of narcissist abuse. When I finally learns that my true love is within and that no one can abandon me but myself, my life has been upleveled. I have been alone for 6 years. Thankyou, I’m so glad I found this, so affirming.
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Thank you! You might like my new book coming out this summer it’s available for pre order now
The Mysteries of the Twelfth Astrological House: Fallen Angels
Here is the link to my website
www.8and12houses.com
Hi Carmen, when I found my birth chart I noticed that I had the placement of Venus in the 12th house (Cancer). Then I started to research and stumbled across your website which really helped me understand a lot of what happens there with that placement. I I was absolutely astounded because growing up in the church they don’t teach astrology and boy did I learn a lot of toxic things that have surrounded my love life. For many years I remembered as a kid that I had a ton of secret crushes. None of the guys wanted to acknowledge that they were seeing me. Normally people found out because I would put the info out and these guys would respond absolutely humiliated although in private they’d reveal to me “I was one of the prettiest girls they’d pursued”. Then as I got older I ended up involved in a bunch of relationships with men who were clearly unavailable. I’ve noticed with this placement there is a chance that the opposite person of this energy might avoid taking pictures and the relationships extend very long with not a sign in sight that the Vin12th exist. I’ve been celibate for extended periods of time and once I put myself out there it’s as if these toxic partners are still waiting for me. It’s tons of partners that I feel these connections toward and I learned that to end the cycle of karma these multiple partners might exist until karma is complete. Most recently I think finally I got to my wits end after I was ghosted by someone who seemed extremely smitten by me. I do not know how to determine when someone has real interest for me at this point in my life. I’ve never had a boyfriend or experienced a mutual love yet. I’ve just known to care for people intensely without them proving anything and it hurts.
Thank you for sharing your story. Please check out my website at www.8and12houses.com where I have many videos and articles. I have a 12th House Astrology Group on FB you should join us! Many Venus in 12th folks in there. Sending love to you. I have a few articles I wrote about astrology and christianity if you are interested in reading you can email me through my website :)
Venus in cancer 12H!!! Thank you for this, it brought tears to my eyes. I'm 35. im just learning about what love is it had been a tough journey!!! But your video encouraged me. Thank you so much!!!
@lakedramonique Thank you so much for sharing 🌹❤️
You might like my 12th house books
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Very well explained cant thank you more for clearly explaining what Venus 12 house has to go through.
Enough of the emotional turmoil and the dejection and character assassination one has to go through especially with Vwnus in 12 house - they are divine souls who connect with the needy invest time energy to bring back ppl from their dismal depths of abyss and once they are normal they just leave Us without any trace - with no gratitude and respect in return, leaving aside love and reciprocation of feelings.
Take Away: Love only your self!
Thank you for sharing and happy you liked the video
My new book is available on Amazon it’s all about the 12th house and chapter dedicated to this issue ❤️
Here is the link
www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2QTXO0FQBVVEA&keywords=12th+house+astrology&qid=1657890033&sprefix=12th+house%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-1
This is the realest facts about Venus in the 12H I have ever heard!!! Seriously , great job for this. As sad as this sounds , it is so true it brings tears to my damn eyes!!!
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Don't sell yourself so short ! Your videos are so informative and you are so relatable ! This is from a Scorpio with 3 planets in 8th house!
Pisces rising. Cancer Moon ....
I've missed you !!!!
sean prater Thank you so much 🌹💙
That was really great explained :) people with this placement only feel valued when they help others and this is programmed in them from childhood It took my a lot of inner child work to understand and start to value myslef for who I am.
Thank you for sharing
I’m happy you found it resonates with your learning and experiences
I have a 12th house FB group of you would like to join
www.8and12houses.com
You have such a gift.
Autumn Davidson your so sweet 🌹💙
You make me cry with this video... I know this is the true and I feel it , but I am tired of this pattern - attract broken people and I have to be rahabilitation centur... why?! Other people meet good "mates" and I didn't deserve the same!? In my life I've always done things alone and when I allow somebody enters my life( this is rare thing- just few few people) the final result is - my heart is broken...
I am greatful that I found your video in this time, beacause now I am feeling so so lonely a cause to the last person I open my heart to, after years being alone and enjoing myself. This relationship doesn't last long, because I felt there is something wrong and yeah I was right - the person is still emotionaly attached to his ex (he remember to tell me this when I open a serios conversation that he is hiding smth from me and I felt it). This broke me...not the person in himself, but that it's the same old story - I decide to open my heart ( it's so difficult for me) and again something it's not available and I found this when it's late!!!
I don' t know what to do... I want to love and be love ...create family❤❤❤ If somebody knows how to brake this cyrcle I am open for wisdom and knowledge!
Thank you! Wish you the best💞🍀💫
Zhanet Zhekova thank you for sharing
You are not alone and you can break the pattern
Don’t allow more heartbreak into your life
You can see the red flags and listen to your self and your gut
Watch my other video on how to heal from heartbreak
I posted the other day and give tips
🌹🌹💙
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you so much ! I hope and pray for miracle - a person who is real as me...🍀💞
P.S. i love your videos 😍
You've wrote my words Zhanet. Blessings for finding what you want. Love.
I loved your 12th house sun video. I have sun in the twelfth house. I have spiritual dreams and once seen the fifth dimension in my dreams. Your videos were very detailed and relatable. Bravo.
Wow. 💯 accurate. I have Taurus 12 House (with a a stellium of Sun, Mercury and Mars )…I’ve heard it’s the same as having the planet there; so I listened to you to see how true is that, and boy oh boy…it’s uncanny!!!
Thank you ❤❤
Thank you for sharing 🌹❤️ You might like my new book and I’m doing a research study about 12th house
If you want to participate email me at carmentschott@gmail.com
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you! I’m planning to buy the book, yes.
I will definitely email you!
Woah! Welcome back Miss Carmen. I watched one of your videos on North Node in Pisces (Pt1) and was bowled over by the level of accuracy in your observations about this placement, because I have this placement, and a bunch of stuff in the 8th house. So, your channel has been very valuable to me. Good to see you back
I'm so happy to hear that
:)
@@CarmenTurnerSchott This exact video helped me so much in understanding what actually makes me happy, I'm 31 years old and it took me till then to realise I wasn't really enjoying what I was doing.
I'm a Libra with many Libra houses, Pisces North Node, Virgo South node :) (Interestingly I recently moved house with new housemates, one is also Pisces North and the other is Virgo North).
Hoping for the Pt2 someday ^_^
I actually love the audio in this video, it’s perfectly clear and feels like a dream haha I love it. Thank you for the content! It’s definitely resonating for me.
Thank you so much 🌹❤️
Welcome back! Accurate and excellent video with, as always, superb advice.
I'm a venus 12th houser. In fact, I have a 12th house stellium. It feels as though this year's theme for myself is to really confront, accept and embrace the venus 12th house lessons. Seeing it for what it is, so to speak. I have to stop applying vaseline to my eyeballs and see individuals for who they are, relationship wise and become more militant, cold in a way.
I always attract the 'broken ones'. In fact, the ones with traumatic mother issues. The inevitable happens and either a few years or months later, they return from their pilgrimage, kneeling at my feet, asking / begging for forgiveness. I've gone back once but ended it not long after. From then on, I take the apology but instead, I keep it moving without them (not even as friends). They are completely cut out. That's why I also feel that sometimes us venus 12th housers possibly, well maybe, are used subconsciously via their spiritual path as a tool in aiding the individual to transform their pain, for them to confront it in a way. When this happens, we are not to take it seriously, as we are just the teacher and they are the pupil. Again, not all the time but I do recognise when this happens. When I do encounter a painful experience of betrayal, lies, ghosting, you name it, I've trained myself to believe they do not exist. It didn't happen. It works the majority of the time but most recently, it hasn't but as I've said earlier, it's time for me to embrace the 12th house venus lessons full on, face to face.
Time, indeed, to love myself, love and adhere to my platinum boundaries plus stop purchasing vaseline as well 😂. Again, welcome back and thank you x
Thank you so much for sharing your story and I am so sorry for the pain you have experienced. I know what it's like. It's a day to day progress for me and we always learn by experience. So happy you found my videoes helpful :) www.8and12houses.com not sure if you had my website.
Stelium here as well, the same story, seems like to get to spirituality through torture in love life and traumatic experiences, put wall around my heart for years, now learning to open it again...
Thank you. This is so spot on in describing my experience. I appreciate your view of the gifts this brings as well as the advice to appreciate your boundaries and look for spiritual love elsewhere. Someone once told me “if they look like a project or feel like a project and they can’t stand shoulder to shoulder with you, run!”
Thank you so much for sharing. :)
I have Venus in cancer in 12th house and everything you said is true. I am 66 yrs of age end of July and I finally hear myself say. I love my family and my long term friends and this is enough for me now. I am no longer longing for the romantic love. It feels so liberating
Ive got venus in virgo house 12 yes i put people on pedestal n when they disappoint me do get very sad but each time i learn something from it and keep getting better in my myself. The house purpose of this house is to HEAL THYSELF. Thankfully venus in virgo means we can get over others with a bit of ease
Thank you for sharing 🌹
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Welcome back !!! Please make more videos and share your wisdom !
bianco904 thank you I will try 🌹
Great that you are back! Like your very special messages! Thank you 🤗👍😊
Karen Thank you 🌹💙
Ok ... so Carmen, my beautiful seer. This video hits close to home as you have always had the ability to articulate in my personal story.
Love? At 50? Such an enigma. Not just as it relates to romantic love, but live in general. I lovd wholly and deeply. I am not a person who translates the word love lightly. Ivd been hurt. Unjustifiably and the scars run deep my friend. Romantically, personally, spiritually.
Thank you for your video. You were the voice that spoke do eloquently as I deep fove into my natal placements. Such resonance with your words
The deep wounding of the experiences. Such a relatable occurrence. I attract broken people. I send them on their way because I am not broken. I am a healer. But, I want to help, not hinder. Do, I isolate.
Thank you for this video. I absolutely relate and am in healing mode. In an isolated state. Because I've been hurt so deeply by people I trusted and adored. It is tough to resurface. I dont know if I ever could. But, I'm learning to love the part of me that gives so freely. Not many of us like this. Venus in 12th,? We are martyrs. We give to receive in spirit. People dont understand us. Thxnk you for your validation.
Lori Lotts You love like the love of the Angels and most can’t touch it or ever reciprocate
You will rise on wings like eagles 🦅
We must re-emerge I learned this past five years as I hid
There are so many hurting people or there who need YOU and your unconditional love
Only give to those who need it and deserve it
🙏🏻🌹💙
I have my Venus in the 12th house and this resonated 100% with me.
Thank you for sharing 🌹
Definitely one of my most difficult placements,, I have Venus in sagittarius in my 12th house. Feels like im always looking for someone who I cant have or is so emotionally unavailable just to try my best to fix them or make it work,, but at the end of the day when I end up feeling that they are not the one or that there isn’t so much of a chagelle anymore I just end up walking away. Feels like im always looking for a deeper connection but no one ever feels enough,,, and that just makes me feel so bad about myself, as if im selfish and no one is good enough for me:-/
Thank you for sharing - It’s very hard and many times we have to go through this karma and experience
Once we learn the blessings of Venus in 12 we won’t suffer anymore
We have to love ourself and not seek soulmate etc as it’s all part our learning
You can attract healthy partners and those who you don’t have to fix when the time is right 🌹💙
Welcome back beautiful soul, Nice to see you Carmen! Venus in 12th , I have a stellium ! your videos are always spot on. I love you!
Karine Alami Thank you so much 💙🌹
Hey Carmen, I was trying to find a video that'd help me cope with my Venus in 12th House and I stumbled upon your video and I'm so glad I did! Everything you said made so much sense to me. I've had two toxic relationships which have given me an immense amount of heartbreak but the second one did ignite an epiphany about how I must learn to love myself more than anything else. And I've been on this journey for a while now, regaining myself and showering my love to my dear ones in every way I can and watching your video made me v happy. I do feel like I'm different from other people, I tend to soak in all sorts of emotions and it can get lonely and melancholic sometimes but then I also feel like all this empathy inside me must be put to work, to help others. I'd always feel like this placement is a burden but after hearing you talk about its many gifts, I'm going to concentrate more on the positive aspects of it and hone them. Again, I'm so glad I found you. Please try to upload more videos, you have such a calming presence. God bless! :)
Thank you so much for sharing 💙🙏🏻🌹 so happy you found the video
You might like to visit my website at www.8and12houses.com
I also have a 12th house FB group you should join us 🌹
Very accurate and informative video.Thanks for your valuable advice
Thank you 🌹
www.8and12houses.com
For a long time I thought it was difficult and I watched @META ‘s video on it and let me tell you, it transformed the way I think about this placement
Thank you for this video! I have NO idea about astrology, houses etc! As a Christian I keep thinking if God put the stars in the sky, there must be more! Then I found you! Thanks again!
I'm having this transit right now and it's exactly what I feel!!!!
So true loads of love to you all. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
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Thank you for coming back 🌹 I love your channel!❤️
Worst, never excuses. I accepted once first love excuses he made to crush me down better. Never more. Thank you and I hope we can meet true love...
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Watching this video is making choke up, um, yeah I wish this video was available my whole life. I’m glade you made it.
Thank you for sharing - your not alone
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I'm glad you are back !
Peter Klein Thank you 🙏🏻
By the way, love your voice, it’s so calming and your presence 😍❤️✨
I love you so much. Your words are emotionally calming me. May be god sent the msg through you. good work.
Uthayachandran Subramanian Thank you 🙏🏻 So happy I could help 💙
I have this placement along with my Sun there and I have come to this same conclusion over the years. I also appreciated your original video about this placement as well because it really hit home on some of the most painful difficulties I've experienced with this placement. So glad to see you back, Carmen! 🤗
Hugs and thank you for sharing
Great video Carmen. I have a stellium in the 12 house, please make a stellium video.
Jose Ezequiel Acevedo I’m planning new video about 12th house heartbreak and how to heal
Superb, can’t wait.
Welcome back, Carmen ! It's been a long time ! Good to see you again !
sean prater 💙🌹
Thank you, i am so loyal it's just unbelievable.
Thank you for sharing 🌹
OMG tnks allot!!! God bless you always!!!
My Venus is in Virgo 12th House
Thank you 💔
I understand the blessings of this placement
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🌙💔And thank you for your moon in the 8th H video. For me it’s Taurus
Thank you for sharing ❤
Thanks to the retrograde for bringing you back for this insight greatly needed and highly appreciated.
Thank you so much :)
Love your channel and the calm energy you bring. Your work resonantes with my water sign houses. I AM, Sun in Aries (12th house), Venus in Aries(12th House), Chiron (12th house, Moon in Sagittarius (8th House), Neptune (8th house). I have a gift where i can almost instantly tell if a potential partner is emotionally unavailable. I can also sense, especially with Scorpios when they are hiding things (lying) and especially their feelings. For these reasons, i don't chase relationships or love. Most relationships that have presented themselves have been spiritual, short-lived and all about growth experiences, serving their purposes, until i relocate to a different city or country.
Thank you for sharing. Listen to that intuition it will protect you.
I tried to explain unconditional love to my virgo ex & it was damn near impossible. He thought he knew, he didn't. /:
I’m not sure why I’m so drawn to people with strong Virgo energy. It either Virgo moon or Venus/Mars in Virgo men. 🥺
virgos always think they know lol
you're someone I feel comfortable with watching astrology videos (:
I am a moon and saturn in 12th house and have a lifelong attachment to a 12th house venus person. I think we are both intrigued by the mes we see in each other, but are suspicious of each other makes long haul bonding really difficult.
But the amount of self mirroring and lessons about self are tremendous here depending on your age, wisdom or openness to the paradoxes of life
I loved same one but she has moon saturn jupiter in 12th house
1000%, everything you said 😭 thank you for this amazing video and your astute and beautiful insights. you’re truly helping me change myself and my life for the better🙏🏼💓✨
Thank you so much for sharing❤️🌹 I a so happy to hear this you made my day
You might be interested in my website
www.8and12houses.com
I have a new book about the 12th house you might like
I have author copies that I ordered and am selling if you want a signed copy
Or you can pre order on Amazon
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Wow, I discovered your videos a few days ago and now I saw that you started to do videos again. I have Venus, Sun,Moon -12 house Leo and Mercury and Mars in Virgo 12th house.
So your 12th house is leo or virgo?
@@c1ro78 both, sun, moon venus in leo and mars and mercury in virgo.
Try having this combined with a Scorpio moon and Scorpio Mars 😭 resentment, anger, vengeance, heartbreak. I think this video changed my life.
I tend to attract men (and female friends) with twelth house placements. I am libra with Venus in Scorpio (end of 11th house...Vedic says 12th), square Saturn in 8th. I also have moon in 4th house. Currently love a man w Capricorn Venus in twelth. His moon is Scorpio in 8th, with Aqua sun and Taurus mars! Even with frustrations, I insist on staying until he allows himself to love and be loved. If through our relationship he is able to become closer to his dreams-to give and receive true unconditional love, that will be enough. Thank you. I love your videos. ❤️
H Thank you for sharing and so happy you liked the videos 💙
Welcome back Dear!!
I am SO happy you are back.
I stumbled across this new vidoe and I am so excited for you.
I noticed an echo on this video. So double check on this.
I dont have Venus in 12th but is sounds like the same situation with my moon in the 8th and my Venus in scorpio. My virgo sun, uranus, dark moon Lilith and pluto is in 12th.
Thank you for sharing
Yes I finally figured out the echo
so glad to see you're back! 8th house moon, 12th house sun, venus in pisces. looking forward to the next video whenever it happens 💖💖💖
ari of the clementines Thank you 🌹💙 Preparing new video next day or so
What are your thoughts on mars and venus conjunct in the 12th?
That is an interesting combo. I would be interested in hearing your experience. I only have Venus in 12th conjunct Sun. I would think it would manifest slightly differently but similar energy.
It’s a bit hard to understand hearing with the echoing
Psychedelic Tranceandance It goes away after Awhile
I finally figured the speakers out
I have 12th house stellium including venus and chiron in 7th house with SN yup.
What about 12 Mars conjunct 12 Venus synastry how would that play out?
There might be struggles between wanting peaceful relationships and wanting challenging partners that you can’t have
Loving and being attracted to people that are not free
Hidden love and passion
Secretive love nature and anger rage passion sex can be used as escape from world and problems
@@CarmenTurnerSchott oh wow
I have Venus in 12 House in Gemini ♊ with Saturn in 12 House in Cancer ♋❤🎉😊
@@aljaklapsicmonroe You need to read my 12house book
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Does this apply to Venus in Pisces ?
prod tommygunhilfiger similar Energy yes- idealistic and sees with rose colored glasses gets easily fooled and hurt in love
Waited for your new video for so long...
My crush, who has Venus in Gemini conjunct Chiron in 12 th house, said that his previous relationships were with women in need, women with a wound. He said he didn’t felt that with me. I’ve told him that I liked him a lot! And then he pulled away…. I asked him what he wanted. He said he needed time, felt unhappy and unstable . He told me he had like a “up day “ when i was with him . And when I wasn’t there and went home he felt very low…. It was difficult for him to feel stable . We can’t be together ( his choise) due to a huge age difference…. I just want him to be happy in life, with or without me. I gave him space and didn’t contact him, it’s been 2 weeks….
Do you offer personal chart readings?
Sarah Fulkerson I do but very hard to schedule lately due to work
Maybe on a weekend
my website is www.8and12houses.com
So what exactly would be the best match for a 12th house? My current on and off pain is with a Pisces Venus in the 3rd house. Im Taurus Venus in 12th
I would need to see whole chart to tell best matches 🌹
Are they like all talk but no real emotions shown by them? You want to dive deep with them but somehow they want only everyday stuffs and only have fun? I let a go a person who I had relationship for 8 months he had Aries Venus in the 3rd me Sag Venus in the 12th. Although we dont communicate anymore I wanted to know more about him all those 8 months, it makes me sad. I mean I know a lot of thinks about him, but I dont know I wanted maybe smth deeper.
I’m curious to know what your interpretation of Venus in 12th house Davison chart would be. I feel like I could write an essay explaining this situation but so much of this description resonates with what has been happening between us. I’m wondering if it should be left in the dream world or if there is any hope for a possible future in reality. Lol. In our synastry his Mars is totally unaspected so I’m thinking he’s all talk and no action.
Thank you for sharing
For relationships when planets are in 12th I find a similar energy manifests a secretive energy and uncomfortable I’m certain area depending on planets there
Venus there would be hidden and affection and love might be challenge and karmic learning regarding love and expression of love in the relationship
It might feel like relationship is not real or others don’t know about it or see it
The 12th house represents the subconcious collective a place where we all were once united. In this house people suffer when they hold on to things. In this house anysort of ego and any intention to use energy for self benefit causes suffering. Any planet here represent a aspect of your life that has been repressed deemed unacceptable and frowned upon developing a sense of fear shame and huge sensitivity when it comes to expressing this energy. Planets here are not yours to fully claim this does not mean you cant benefit from it planets here are not meant to be a secret, it turns into one if you have ego and wanna claim it for yourself. Here is asking you to sacrifice this planet to the collective to trancend this planet. In this case of venus the 12 house is asking you express it and incorporate it within you. Unlike in the first house where your fully aware of the planets enegy it's fully yours to take and using it for self benefit. In the 12 is asking you to be the representation of all the things that venus is and give it to the collective love on to the collective give your beauty away give everything you repressed and you wanted to eliminate on to the world give this away unconditionally. Like this youll transcend youll be remembered as a venus Icon youll leave a legacy. Like this youll have an awareness of how all of us are trully divine and beautifull including yourself developing a sense of pride and ego thats of the collective and not yours only. Youll feel that the universe is communicating through you what does it mean to be truly beautiful and what love truly is representing all of us. Like this venus transcends and makes itself visible not only for you but for all. Like this the right people will come to you with healthy intentions dont sabotage it now that you had someone see that something that you yourself repressed and deemed unworthy none existent. Put your boundaries set what you want out of it cause we all have the right for a healthy relationship. And if its time to let go and say good bye youll do it! And trasncend once more!. Theres beauty and love when you let go!. In life people get rejected relationships end and begin all we have to do is to take the memories we collected and enjoyed and give that away returning back the same love that the universe has given you back into the collective. If you have any 12th house placements the worst you can do its to keep it a secret like this you suffer and face your undoing. If you want to benefit from the placement give it away. In this case venus Love everything so everything can love u back put yourself out there! We all are worthy of love and admiration. This why venus in pisces is exalted and when its in the 12th thats the lesson you have to learn. Venus in the 1st is in detriment just like when its aries love and beauty shouldnt be our the measure of our value and we shouldn build our identity upon it we all are beautiful and divine we all have something thats is worth of admiration. Separate and know your place be realistic but keep in mind at the end of the day we all are made up of the same things. The more you repress and opress this placements the more visible will be for others and the less visible for you.
Wow that resonated deeply. Thanks for this explanation.
It is true i have this placement. It was a hard lesson to learn
I have Venus, Mars, Mercury and Jupiter in the 12th. I'd like to comprehend how to give these unconditionally to the collective.
Anyone...???
@@p9782 giving unconditionally to the collective can be done in manyways all you have to do is embody the planets energy to benefit all if its venus you could perhaps use ur artistic talents and beauty to make money and donate some of it to children in need, perhaps also beautifying a certain individual out of desire for them to feel beautiful not because u want to make money out of it create art beautiful paintaings to enrich people minds you can also create a career out of venus although you benefit financially you also giving to the collective. Jupiter means share your spirituality your wisdom your positivity out of love to humanity those who listen will take it and will remember your for it. If its mars encourage people to stand up for themselves be the representation of what it means to be strong in the world fight for a cause and win it win for all of us who couldnt do it share your passion. People who leaved an everlasting impression on to the world where 12th house people. Britneys spears was 12th house mars she was know for her sexuality her drive and her passion for the things she loved and she is remeber for her stamina. Mariah carey and french singer alizee . have venus in the 12th they are remembered for their extraordinary beauty that they shared with all of us and used without intentions to benefits themselves instead just out of joy to share the feeling with all. This people did that and the collective rewarded them. A 12 th house planets inprint on the world is for a life time and never fades is much stronger than a first house planet, but only when its fully expressed and the individual recognizes its self worth and moves beyond its own sensitivity and feelings of shame.
Your explanations are so beautiful. You are so so so knowledgeable on the subject. Could you please give more examples of how a Venus in the 12th house can be selfless and give their Venus out to the world? I appreciate this so much by the way!
I can relate to Venus in 12H 💯 I have cancer in 12H which currently venus is transitioning. I’m a Leo rising
Thank you or sharing
😊❤️ you might like my book
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I have Venus in my 12th house and in Scorpio, I have trouble opening up to people romantically, but I love my friends and myself with all my heart and I am content 💓
Thank you for sharing. I think that this placement is a blessing and a curse. We can be shy and avoid being hurt, but sometimes we feel so strongly for others we lose all touch with reality and seeing people clearly and often those are the toxic folks who like to use us. Visit my website at www.8and12houses.com and you can contact me through there. I have a 12th house FB group you might want to join :) Carmen
Love you.
Thankyou love I am enamored and I could cry but I won't because I'm useto dealing with it.
It seems as though I can actually feel the love and purity residing within your heart.... You are a gift..
The pleasant tone, sincerety , the thoughtful expression delivered so naturally and eloquently, is very much appreciated...
Whatever difficulties and hardships that you've had to endure, have chiseled away any imperfections that you may have deemed present, and left a masterpiece of serenity for the masses to aspire towards...
I truly hope that you are as genuine as you seem...for you inspire me to seek the depths in search of the one that I wish to be....
I believe that we all possess that which we desire and search for, but, not all have a clear path nor clear waters to navigate, while we push forward in our unique purpose...
Thank you Carmen...
Blessings...
Darrell Garner Thank you so much for your kind words 🌹💙
I’m so excited you’re back, I hope that you keep it up if it’s right for you, your work is so clarifying!
Brittney Overcamp Thank you so much 😊
OMG!!!!! 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽
You might like my book www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
Do you still do readings? I would like to book a reading.
mary weather I took a break from consultations for a few years now but I might be able to start up again
It would have to be a weekend my job keeps me busy traveling
my website is www.8and12houses.com
Glad your back! Your my favourite astrologer by a mile.🙂 Would love if you did Saturn in 12th
Connor Celticbhoy7 Awe Thank you so much 💙🌹 I will try to do a video on all planets through 12th
Venus in Virgo in 12th house❤🌷
My twin :)
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Wow amazing. I Guess you are A Virgo sun.🌷
@@CarmenTurnerSchott I am a Leo with Libra rising Capricorn moon. Venus, Mars Mercury in Virgo.
Emelie Jönsson Yes both Venus and Sun in Virgo in 12th
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Wow alot of Empathy and compassion and healing energy. Right?🌷
I find such feelings fulfilled when I am swaying no a boat with a big full moon hanging in the sky in the ocean when I travel. Recently found out the man I was crushing on has the same triple Mars Pluto Saturn conjunction as my dad? I bet he was always confused about my affections. That can be something to look into.
That’s soooo acurate, Carmen! 😢 With Venus in tight orb conjunction with Cheiron in 12th house in Cancer.... and Venus square Mars, trine Pluto, opposite Neptune, sextile Moon. I feel like alien and lost when comes on relationships. Recently, I had a crush with someone who I fell in love with very unexpectedly, but it was only very short and painful episode. His Venus in my 12th house. He was married and open to have an affair...:-/ I always feel like “the second one”, but I learn myself to think I am worth to be “the first one”.
Lots of love, Tyna
Thank you for sharing
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Thank you for sharing your story
That was what I needed
Wow!
I love you too!
Hey Carman long time no see its me Myles from Facebook
I'm rusty lol :)
@@CarmenTurnerSchott lol atleast you're still committed to your videos and thats what I like to see
12th House: Venus in Leo, Mercury in Leo, Mars in Cancer, Jupiter in Cancer
8th House: Chiron in Pisces, Saturn in Pisces
1st House: Sun in Leo, Moon in Virgo
North Node: Taurus in 10th
Love your videos, TY!
The Oracle Thank you 🌹
omg i just found this after i felt guided to seek venus in 12th house. yes i have sun, venus, pluto in 12th house also with chiron in 7th house 😢😢😢😢😢 i feel so unlucky in love... i gave too much and i had nothing to give anymore... im heart broken
Thank you for sharing and remember your strong and time will help heal
I know how you feel and your never alone
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GOD loves you unconditionaly 🎉❤😊🎉❤🎉🎉
Its not that hard as you are talking. It is not good to feel the victime all the time, couse you are not. You can create your own reality 🎉😊😊🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
Venus in 12 House in Gemini ♊ knows how to Love themself. They like to learn all the time new things. They are intelectual, they like Smart inteligent People. Always learning somthing New.....🎉❤🎉😊😊❤❤❤🎉
Intelect # talking # knowladge # eatch healing #
@@aljaklapsicmonroe www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
My venus is in the 8th!! Along with my sun!!
Mónica Gasca I’ll be making more videos on 8th as well 💙🌹
@@CarmenTurnerSchott yeashh please😍😍😍😍❤🌈 thank you so much
Taurus sun and moon taurus in chiron and mercury in Taurus and venus In the 12th what can I say I could take a punch which I'm tire of and releasing myself from.
jose nunez ❤️
My sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are in the 12th house hahahaha
Intergalactic Queen 💫
Also I have sun , moon, venus and jupiter in 12th house in virgo 😁
I have Sun Venus in Virgo in 12th :)
@@CarmenTurnerSchott ❣🍀
So basically I’m a fool. Everyone else gets to feel cool love and I have to experience strong earth shattering shit that only I will ever give two shits about….Hahahha nice. I have to find a woman with V12H to feel truly loved. Now how the fuck do I do that without being creepy and strange in public?
You made me laugh but I feel the same way lol 😂 I’m Venus in 12th
Start asking to see peoples charts before you date them that’s what I used to do after I kept picking unavailable people
I mean the half of venus is scorpio so how about if that's exactly what it is jesus was pisces that's interesting
Oh hello wow