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School Fire Drill #11: Fire Dpt. Responded!
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2018
- This month I got to watch my high school preform the fire drill. Next month, I will get to see how the middle school does it. This will be cool because they have a completely different building/system.
Fire department explained:
So the high school and the middle school do their fire drills at exactly the same time (as you saw the system operators on the phone counting down in the beginning). When you want to do a fire drill, you have to call your monitoring company to place you system on test mode. That way, the fire department won't show up when you're doing a drill. The middle school did everything correctly, however, the monitoring company didn't put the system on test for some reason, this resulted with the fire department responding thinking there is an actual fire.
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When I was in school back in the 70's and early 80's, my elementary and junior high schools had Fire-Lite control panels and Simplex buzzers (40xx models).
The classrooms in the new wing at the junior high school were open air architecture so, you could be sitting underneath a buzzer, or, have one in your direct line of sight. The buzzers were mounted inside Space Age Electronics AV32 enclosures complete with a double projector attachment.
Needless to say, fire alarm systems have come quite a ways since then.
When I was a freshman in high school 10 years ago, we had a fire drill and the fire department showed up and the principal told the fire fighters that it was a drill. The fire alarms went off 2 more times that day but they weren’t drills. I think someone called in a bomb threat also. The school also went into lockdown all in the same day.
Okay that’s crazy
@@clxdyy_ yeah
Our annunciatior broke during a tornado in elementary school. They issued the tornado warning as people were leaving the building lol
WOW
Great drill, love the Gentex Commander 4 alarms. The fire department responding happens.
Great video, keep up the great work! 👍
Thank you for the feedback!
The alarms being out of sync is a NFPA violation and must be remedied immediately.
In terms of sync, all they need to do is enable Gentex Sync Protocol on each NAC. Most modern “By Honeywell” branded panels have that feature.
“In terms of sync, we have no sync”
Awesome! That’s happened to my school a couple times. the fire department sent like 5 trucks lol
me too that happened to my school a couple times too.
Keith Pierce same too back in elementary someone pulled the fire alarm at eastern Wayne elementary school all of the EST genies alarms and celling mounted est alarms went off and there was 4 fire trucks came to my school
My fire dept went inside
Rescue 1 showed up
Safeman4202 Yeah. It happened at my school too when my school forgot to call the monitoring station. It resulted in three trucks and a cop car showing up. It may seem funny at first, but in a way that’s a false alarm right there because while you may have forgotten, the fire department has to respond. So God forbid something bad actually did happen and they couldn’t get there in time, that could still be the school’s fault while it’s still accidental. You may have meant to call them, but if you forget and then pull the alarm, be prepared for trouble.
Yeah I had those at my HS...Made the mistake of sitting directly under a GEC4 on a fire drill day. Yes the horns were active in classrooms as well as hallways
you are doing a great job!!! when you need a job in fire alarm let me know!!
i have seen 2 fire alarm responses. both were at my school and both weren't a drill. 1 was when my school lit on fire in kindergarten (they didnt even close school to do a inspection to make sure it was safe) they also made us go in while the school was still smoldering. the 2nd was when some kid pulled the fire alarm in the rain.
I used to see it all the time when I was in high school, but that was because the fire alarm system was faulty (one week it kept going off all times of the day and night and they finally told us to ignore it unless otherwise told). They ended up replacing the whole system my senior year. I've seen it a few times at the hospital I used to work at too, one time because the chef set off the kitchen suppression system.
To the people saying it need a sync module, these panels can be a bit confusing with programming. It requires you to map fire drill to sync. They enabled sync for manual pull, smoke, and waterflow, that may have been what they forgot
S.E.R Safety i agree the system should get a sync module
My school has a mix of Gentex GOS Sounder/Strobes, Gentex Commander 3's, Gentex GXS Strobes, Gentex SHG Horn Strobes, Gentex Commander 2 Strobes, System Sensor SpectrAlert P1224MC Horn Strobes, System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance PC4R Horn Strobes, Wheelock E70 Speaker Strobes, Wheelock RSS Strobes & Wheelock MT Horn Strobes.
Pull Stations are the BGX-101L and NBG-12LX
Gentex GEC2 Strobes are to replace dead GXS Strobes.
System is Continuous & Code 3
Gentex GOS is 800Hz Code 3
Wheelock E70 Speaker Strobes are in the Auditorium that plays the Notifier Voice Evacuation Message.
There is also a Fire-Lite MS4424 tied to the main Notifier panel.
That was quite a funny story. The firemen didn’t even know what happened until you guys told them what you were doing.
Mistake made by the monitoring company it happens from time to time
Don’t you hate when someone pulls the fire alarm, and you have to evacuate the building and wait for the fire department to show up? That happened in the winter once to me.
i agree they need a sync module
0:49 you think, I would get annoyed with that in seconds
This is my favorite video.
that happened to my school too
I like the video in 1440p great video
Why do they have pictures covering up the NAC extender?
I've actually had a couple of alarms that went off. The first was when a kid pulled it and the pull station was still active, so in this case they tried to reset it and the alarm happened in my class, but then I told them " Come reset the pull station, before you reset. Another was when the Truealerts at my school started flashing for about 1 minute then the horns went of it was traced to an alarm that shorted. But now, the 4100U has 2 trouble and 1 Supvizory present, and its been there for 10 months.
me too that happened at my school a couple times.
I got to ring the fire alarm at my high school i was with the custodian for my co op
This never happened to me when I was still in school, they always had the system put on test mode before doing a fire drill.
At my school someone from the company (Chubb [Alarmfast]) comes to do it
It needs a Sync module or Set on Gentex Sync and is a NFPA Code Violation because the strobe and horn are unsynced that causes confusion because of the Unsynced horn and People with Photosensitive Epilepsy may have a seizure due to the Unsynced strobes the pattern of code 3 is 0.5 Seconds On, 0.5 Seconds off 3 times then stop 1.5 seconds then Repeats over and over
this school needs something to sync them together. my teacher put a poptart in the microwave for 20 minutes and caused a 45 minute evacuation and the fire department showed up.
That panel is not programmed correctly, the horn.strobes should be synced, it is a simple programming change, I would call your installation company and have this corrected.
SIR LEAVE THAT FIRE ALARM ALONE!
There’s multiple alarms in that school, The only alarms that I see in the school I go to is a EST Genesis and one space age in the garbage room
It does need a sync module and a button to disable the dialer.
Am I imagining things or does that panel NOT have batteries?
@Aslin Fire Safety it's a 5700 lol. Look at the stickers near the relays
Good job guys keep up the good work
Sent on thirsday
The kind of gentex commander alarms our town’s hannaford’s has inside 0:15
Great video! Is that the school's only panel? Reason I'm asking is because I also have an SK-5700 and it allows a maximum of 50-100 devices. That doesn't seem enough for a high school .Unless the high school's system was converted from a conventional system and just the panel was replaced, it doesn't make sense to have that panel vs an SK-5808 or SK-5820XL
I can't tell exactly, but does that TV screen at 0:31 say "ALERT" or something? It would be really cool if they synced an alert notice on all the screens to the fire alarm system. My college has a system that displays warning messages on all computer and TV screens when there's a campus wide emergency, but it's not hooked to the fire alarm system...
bellum128 it says: “DEADLINE”
last month i had a fire drill at my school and forgot to put it in test mode fd called 1later truck 2 water truck 3 paramedics
They forgot to disable the dialer.
Fire alarms r cool!
1:17 That fire fighter sounds like Tom Hanks lol
Ur back at that school?
When my school did these the fire department never shown up
On 1:40 what song is called
I hate wen that happens you call them and sometimes they forget to put it offline
This always happens at my school, I can see the fire truck speeding past our school
Fire Alarm Favorites Well, you should say something about it. Maybe remind the custodian/janitor to take the system offline. These poor firemen have the belief there’s something wrong, and they have to respond every month. It costs money to run those units. Not to mention if someone gets hurt in a real emergency, Lord knows what would happen next.
Big school u got there
Ha ha the fire Dept. showed up!
That’s actually not a good thing if you think about it. People in danger rely on these services to help them in a dangerous situation. If your mom was dying in a workplace fire, how would you like it if the firefighters couldn’t get there in time to save her life? Time is critical when responding to emergencies. That’s why it’s illegal to pull a fire alarm or tamper with equipment. It’s not funny at all.
Last year, my school had like 3 false alarms.. one was something in the cafeteria, another was in the science wing, and last I think a teacher burnt popcorn and set it off... (we walked in and smelt burnt popcorn)
for me, our building was having an addition built and some dust entered the ventilation system triggering a smoke detector or something
The reason why the fire department showed up when you used the "Drill" function (Panel screen saying: "Fire Drill In progress, 10 Minutes Remaining, Press any key to stop".) Is because the alarm LED light on the panel is flashing because the system is a normal fire alarm condition which means the fire department will respond unless if you put your system on test mode. If the alamr LED light on the panel isn't flashing as it's just off when you use a drill function or drill button on a fire alarm control panel then the system is not in a normal fire alarm condition and juts activates the NACs (Notification Appliance Circuits) to sound and flash everything without the fire department showing because this isn't a normal fire alarm and just a fire drill or fire alarm test executed from the fire drill button or function on the system without a normal fire alarm condition as the alarm LED light isn't flashing and just off
No I think they forgot to disable the fire dialer
Did that panel have a manaul Evac? I have the same panel in my school always turn off the fire alarm dialer before doing a drill of it is not a drill then u know what to do. But fire dept should not have responded if you manul evac fire dept wont be called if you want to use the pull station THEN TURN OFF THE FIRE ALARM DIALER And I saw you press 1 and select that should not set it off im sorry if i missed something please tell me but yeah.
I hope everything is good 0:37 0:39 0:40 0:41 minutes fire alarm
What is that and it’s blurred out?
I thought the drill feature won't call the fire department
A sync module is required, so why is there none?
SimplexGrinnel
I hate when that happens at my sister job I help out with the fire drills sometimes but this time we did a drill and we called them to put it test mode After Breakfast because breakfast is fast so when we did the drill we did it then the fire department came to the call and seid thare was a Activation in the Building so we told them that we called the place to put it in test mode After they came we called the place and they seid the forgot to disarm the system
I have the commander 3's at my school and theres a long beep that sounds before the drill starts but the alarms dont sound at the same time, they are pretty much out of sync and kinda worse than that sync.
at my school they have gentex commander 3 AND have a notifier fire alarm system with bg-12 s
My school has simplex TrueAlert
So twice a year the fire Department does fire drills at my school the rest the school does it
Only twice a year,we do em once a month
@@derrickcastillo6511 im saying the fire Department does the drills twice for us, all the others my school does there self
I think mechanical horns are way louder
It happened in my Middle School Year back in September 19, 2013 right after September 18's Fire Drill practice that we did until the 19th comes after I arrived at my middle school I saw everybody evacuating the school building at the beginning of the school day when I knew that somebody pulled the fire alarm and then the fire department responded they found out that it was a water problem that my school was having that's the issue why the fire alarm is going off!
Odd that the panel calls the central station for a drill. Part of the reason manufacturers design a drill feature is so that you can do a fire drill without accidentally activating the dialer or having to disconnect city boxes.
Yeah. Most of our newer campus buildings have the drill mode. Our older buildings require our maintenance personnel to use a key to open a pull station. Regardless, we always have our system offline unless it’s a real fire.
MORE GIVE ME MORE PLS PLS PLS PRITTY PLS
😂 it happens!
also, did the simplex grinell lady get fired ? XD
Not unless the call resulted in someone getting hurt I’d the FD couldn’t respond fast enough. It’s bad, but it’s even worse if someone needs help and they’re tied up with a false alarm.
The lady at simplex should have gotten a 500 dollar fine
I thought drill disabled the dialert?
Great video 😀👍👍
What do you know about a Siemens XLS- Fyrefyder (some name like that) system. The have it at my high school and it’s been having MAJOR issues lately (I know it’s a card base panel too!).
The reason why the fire dept showed up when you used the "Drill" function (Pannel screen saying: "Fire Drill In progress, 10 Minutes Remaining, Press any key to stop".) on the pannel is because this pannel has a relay switch that will activate the dialer when the pannel goes into alarm which means any function on the pannel that sets the pannel into alarm with also a pull station or smoke/heat detector being activated.
Normal fire alarm pannels that have a "Drill" button (Pannel screen saying: "Evac in system") and not a "Drill" function (Pannel screen saying: "Fire Drill In progress, 10 Minutes Remaining, Press any key to stop".) won't activate the dialer because the "Drill" button (Pannel screen saying: "Evac in system") will program the pannel to go into alarm without the relay switch activating the dialer.
I've heard Gentex Commander 3's in person!
Temple 92 we have gentex commander 3 at my school they are really loud!
EightBitMichael not,really,
I have Gentex commander 3’s and 4’s at my school and they have a weird code that is slow March time or smthn and they are all synced
Fire alarm sound
Oh dear! 😂
lel
Happened to a high school down the street from my workplace, lol
Second + love the video!
Hi SER safety,are drills usually conducted by opening a pull station or pulling a pull station or use the drill button?
Sam Luo It depends. The most common method is to use a key to open a pull station to sound the alarm. While the drill button is effective, it may not activate every part of the fire alarm system. This could be disadvantageous, though, as you want the system to work effectively when a real fire happens. So I think pull stations are better. You can also pull the lever on the station and then reset it with a key. Another disadvantage with the drill feature is, as you saw, it does not always disable the call feature. Rather than assume the system will not dispatch the fire department, it’s safer to notify the monitoring company ahead of time in case something goes wrong.
did they have any elevators? next time show them please thanks
1 Week Ago My School Fire Alarm Went Off The Fire department came and my prinsape said on the pa It was cased by H U M I D I T Y😅
Nice! Why do they do it at the same time? Oh and what happened to the Simplex TrueAlerts? Is this at a different place or something?
I now go to a different school system.
S.E.R. Safety Gotcha. I had to do that a couple years back when I moved to a different state.
Simplex monitoring a Silent Knight system? Kinda hilarious.
Simplex is the monitoring service
I know. It's just kind of funny how they're monitoring a system from another brand.
Why does that firefighter sound like Ed Anser?
I thought drill mode bypassed the communicator.. hmm.
Alexanders Adventures - Channel Deactive Nope, not always. You’re not alone with that misconception. The safest thing to do is to ALWAYS notify your company before conducting a drill.
Man the school looks like a airport
Sounds like it's the alarm company's fault this time. 🙄🙄
Nice video!! IT NEEDS A SYNC MODULE
The panels can sync the alarms themselves with the built in sync mod it can do system see sir gemtex Wheelock and Faraday sync
Bruh simplexgrinell
This school got a sync module?
Nope
Well, accidents happen!
True. But if there was an actual emergency somewhere else, and people got hurt, that’s a big deal.
Jeez buy a freaking sync module
Cool vid how do you have 11 fire drill my school only does it like 2 times a year sadly:(
Fast CSX no the number means what video number of school fire drill it is
Funtime Freddy ohhhhhhhhhh ok thx
Fast CSX no problemo xD
Funtime Freddy do you like FNaF a lot
Fast CSX yeah....
S.E.R Safety You Suspended For two days
0:05
Does the panel bypass the dialer in drill mode?
Usually it does
@@GaryBeltz if the dialer isn't bypassed, does it call 911?
@@Emmisullivan14 typically not directly what are usually does is calls a Monitoring Center and they in turn called the fire department
@@GaryBeltz like an alarm system?
@@Emmisullivan14 Yeah they are monitored by a company depends on who installed it or who has the current contract with the building.
And where are the batteries?
They might be in a separate battery box I've seen other systems where that is the case.
Gary Beltz maybe. I have seen that too
They have a separate panel box that holds the secoundary power supply.
S.E.R. Safety gotcha
Lol 😂 they thought there was a fire
Dont use emojis. Its disrespectful.
@@AP-57how??
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Did the school get a fine as a result?
Nope, that usually doesn’t start happening until they respond to a false alarm 2-3+ times a year. Becides, the fire department responding was not the school’s fault, the monitoring company forgot to put the system on test.
They said they did a fire drill, I’m thinking the fire dept. are proud of the students but not the dislike disablizer.
i thought your school had truealerts
I believe some of the buildings on his campus do.
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