My Ranking of Kruber's Weapons in Vermintide 2
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
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2H Sword - 0:44
Blunderbuss - 1:30
Longbow - 2:50
Bret. SnS - 3:40
Mace n Sword - 5:05
Handgun - 5:56
2H Hammer - 6:40
Sword n Shield - 7:57
1H Sword - 8:45
Tuskgor Spear - 9:52
1H Mace - 10:40
Mace n Sword / Bret. Longsword - 12:00
Halberd - 12:30
Repeater Handgun - 13:32
Executioner Sword - 14:55
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YES I KNOW I FORGOT THE SPIELD I'M SORRY
What tier would you put it in?
@@moss7282 A/AB, better than mace n shield but not as good as SnS, kinda a happy median between the two
@@jtcLIVE I think its better than SnS. 3 dodges with 105% distance, special attack for berserk/monks, heavy 1 qq cancel gives movement speed, crazy fast light sweeps vs horde, ok damage vs armor (for a shield weapon)... so much utility
O ma ga. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Jk, thank you for the video. They are always helpful. I definitely love the Bret s&s. It's functionality is limited when I use it, but that push into bash combo is awesome for saving people or clearing the area around someone that's already beaten me to getting someone up. Of course having it also means I can block warpfire which isn't a Bret s&s ability but tied to the GK career, but carrying it means I can do that and clear a lot of space in emergencies so I always run around with it as one option on my GK.
@@kubakowalik6598 you can attack while blocking too
Can't wait for Victor's list to have "Ranged Weapons" and "Ranged weapons, but your on BH"
There's no way handgun is lower than repeater. Handgun is literally the best special sniping weapon in the game, getting bodyshots on all specials on cata. The repeater has 40 ammo, given that specials take 2-3 shots, you can kill about 13-20 specials. With handgun you get 16. The difference really isn't that much (plus conservative shooter on handgun can increase ammo sustainability by A LOT). Plus it also bodyshots stormvermin and maulers on cata. With the 8 bullets in the repeater magazine you can typically kill 2-3 specials/elites without reloading. That won't make a huge difference on cata. Plus it's less accurate and slower at killing single enemies. Handgun is better hands down
Agreed, it also generally seems to be the go to pick on modded realm with most players, so it appears to be more meta. That being said, his criteria was based on the best build he can make with said weapon. Meaning the best build is probably a huntsman build where he could make better use of other weapons.
I think handgun shines in giving non ranged classes like merc and foot knight consistent special killing. Overall it his best ranged weapon for kruber but for his criteria it likely isn't.
My friend who mains Kruber always runs handgun and it's become an inside joke that I shouldn't even try to kill specials. Like he hears a hookrat? The gun comes out. He sees it? It's dead. It's a great weapon.
You're judging this solely on its special sniping criteria. I'm inclined to agree with JTC that the repeater is better. I play quickplay (legend) 90% of the time, so I can safely bet that there will be a special sniper or two (three if i'm unlucky) in the team when I'm running Kruber. I have repeater equipped on merc and footknight, which are both front-liners. Eight bullets for repeater to kill 2-3 specials is worth it as a frontliner. The ammo pain can hurt, but nowadays I find very little competition for ammo. Handgun is riskier to use as a front-liner since you'll have less time and less space to kill a special/elite at the front Now for Huntsman, a special sniper, handgun would have more value but it is outperformed by empire longbow imo. Longbow can do the same thing quicker, also can clear hordes and has competitive ammo efficiency with handgun.
Yes, you can do a lot with a handgun. But better "hands down"? i'd disagree. The criteria is for best for most efficient build. I'd pick a handgun if I knew what team I was playing with beforehand. Whereas with quickplay? I can take repeater handgun for all three classes and know it's a safe choice.
2:53 - Irregular verb protip because I never got to share this knowledge before - an executioner hung his laundry in the morning and then later hanged his victims
so in other words "if you've hanged around" is more appropiate I think
I used to prefer normal sword and shield but recently I love the Bret version more especially cause of the quick bash, you can farm thp so quickly or push enemies off so quickly
With the bug fix on the Halberd H1 armour cleaving properties, it became a LOT more usable on FK and Merc. Huntsman has zero synergies still, but is at least useable. With FK and Merc though, I would argue for a slightly higher placement, if only due to the bug fix making it *feel* a ton better vs mixed hordes.
I love Halberd with FK. Chop chop baby
I would have liked if you talked about why Mace & Sword and Bretonnian Longsword are so good.
I added some notes about the Mace and Sword in a comment. Look for it and see if it helps.
so glad to finally see one handed mace get some recognition! it's by far my favorite kruber weapon
Can’t wait to see the rest of the tiers
To expand on the Mace and Sword (I play on Legend):
• It can 1-2 shot most small enemies
• The mace has great stagger, staggering many enemies in a sweep and allowing for great thp generation
• Heavy attacks do decent armor damage, killing elites in 2ish hits.
• all attacks are pretty quick, allowing you to do good damage and react quickly in case of a quick block.
• it has decent stamina
• it has my favorite push block attack in the game. It slays trash so fast and does great armor damage. Kruger lunges forward when doing it, giving you some good mobility.
• lastly, you can block/light attack cancel really quickly, causing Kruger to run a little faster. Just roll your fingers over the RMB/LMB quickly and he “wiggles” forward.
The Mace and Sword is my favorite weapon and I always use it when I can. I hardly ever use my secondary weapon when playing the GK.
How do i get the mace and sword is it like a DLC or a bp and if it is a bp how do i get it
@@joshrex9546 you need the Back to Ubersreik DLC and then beat all 3 new missions from the DLC with Kruger on any difficulty.
@@jacobvriesema6633 Thx for the info btw how do i get the illusion exotic, i know its a mission but i cant find it.
I kinda disagree about the bretonnia sword and shield because its, its combos that make it good if you know the combos it is really good for hordes and elites but in general its a more single target damage weapon while its also a great horde control because you can actually bash twice one heavy, one light. you throw a attack then hold for a heavy shield bash then attack right after an you get a magnificent crowd control
Ex Sword S tier on grail you failed to mention pairing it up with Mace and Sword, perfect combo
I recently started playing this game, and your tier list videos have been very helpful. One thing that would make them even better would be that if a weapon is from a DLC, you mentioned this, and told us which DLC to find it in. Thanks! take care.
You forgot spear and shield lad.
Big F
@@jtcLIVE Think you can give a brief explanation of where you might've ranked it and/or what its pros & cons are compared to the other shields in the comments or description?
Ahh, thank god I’m not the only once who noticed that! Still a very good guide though!
@@predwin1998 TLDR is its better than sword and mace and it has some things that sword and shield doesn't offer, but still isn't as good compared to SnS. I'd put it in AB, maybe B if you're playing on super high ping
Executioner's Sword is also really good on Foot Knight in my opinion, you got Crowd Clearer for some attack speed bump and to help proc Swift Slaying
And in the case of elites you can knock them all down with your ult and massacre them while they're helpless
Also if you take Bull of Ostland you can just decimate everything in seconds, elites just stand around stunned when a Bull with extra 50% attack speed and a giant Executioner's Sword is knocking them around
Pretty much agree with the list. Didn't know about the nerf on exec, so it seems I'll be running GK with Bretonnian Sword and M/S.
Something VERY important for new players and which veterans will probably not even remember, especially with the influx of new players after the game was made free temporarily: Some of these weapons can ONLY be obtained after purchasing the 3 DLCs bundle: Shadows over Bogenhafen, Back to Ubsersreik (specifically required for Mace & Sword, for example), and Forgottne Relics Pack.
Im a hammer main and it pains me to see Great Hammer and Mace and Shield so low. Each to their own :D
Run the 2 handed hammer on Footknight and spec for stagger and see what amazing things you can do.
Kruber two handed hammer on merc is underrated af 🔥
Came here to say this.
2HH with fast build in foot knight or mercenary is S always
The saddest thing about the Bret sword and shield is that even though it has a super weird moveset, it ends up being a sort of "swiss army knife" type weapon because its first charged attack is an amazingly powerful overhead slash that is super easy to land headshots with while also dealing awesome amounts of damage.
I have a feeling that if you could equip it on either Foot Knight or Huntsman, people would change their minds about it.
PS: Greathammer on Huntsman, and Merc is really good because you can procc crits more easily and activate swift slaying, thereby negating the slow speed of the weapon. Mercenary only needs the talent that procs crit on every 5 hit swings, but Huntsman would need a crit build and stack a lot of it, which is still more than doable, and I have great fun with it, especially since it gets extra headshot damage and hitting the head with GS is ezpz
An underrate combo with Bret S+S is Light->Heavy->Light repeat into Hordes.
That's a somewhat diagonal slash, then a heavy shield bash immediately followed by the quick shield bash. The shove push combo is quicker, but this also deals damage. The crowd control is really good if you learn how to use it, since the combo can be a bit awkward the first time around.
If you are fishing for crits so swift slaying can make up for a poor attack speed... Why not the executioner? It has bonus crit chance on the heavies and light 3. I don't think crit builds compliment hammer more than any other weapon.
@@dustrockblues7567 I never liked the Executioner. I know I know. Its a good weapon, but it always fails me if i get overwhelmed by enemies.
Greathammer has incredible crowd control, ease of use and good stagger.
The charged attacks cleave through enemies like butter and the single target attacks can deal with armor easily without me feeling like a sitting duck.
Also i just generally hate meta builds or weapons. Always have xD
I feel like I get a lot out of the 2h hammer with an attack speed build on FK. Maybe it's not ideal but I find it useful. 1h mace/hammer used to be my try hard weapons before longsword and dual hammers were dropped. I feel like it's under utilized.
Does this build includes Crowd Clearer and Bull of Ostland!, and dealling with hordes with a Push Attack -> Light Attack -> Light Attack pattern?
@@memphisgadfly5816 I can't speak for him, but Have at Thee! (15% power for 10s staggering elite) and Mainstay absolutely floors crowds. It has performed equally well with Stagger & Cleave THP talents in my experience, but I err towards cleave since Hero Time lets you just move from crowd to crowd to crowd, sometimes getting that 15% off the bat. Protective Presence also makes the hammer better as a defensive weapon to compensate for its poor mobility. I find the hammer's push attack risky with its narrow block/push angle
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I dont play much kruber but i was like a child in a candy store when i tried out great hammer on grail knight, light attacks shred elites and specials and heavy sends entire hords of trash flying
Then i tried ironbreaker with the coghammer and i love that shiz
But just because bardin uses it better doesn't make it bad
Thats like saying sword and dagger is trash on waystalker cuz shade can get more out of it, like maybe she can but its still a great weapon in the context of the charecter/class
you greatly underestimated great hammer, in right hands it is better than mace and sword
Actually glad to see 1H mace and the Sword & Shield get some appreciation, those things are monsters on Foot Knight. Also nice to see that executioner's didn't immediately go up to S tier because 'high damage hurr durr'. That thing's comparatively poor horde clear and defence, along with the mentality of 'just keep swinging, ignore blocking and pushing' it seems to foster in people really bring it down imo. Nice vid, as usual!
But man, your anti-hammeretic remarks are going in the book!*
*In all seriousness, Foot Knight makes it quite fun and usuable, if not amazing. AB at least for me with staggering force, comrades in arms and bull of ostland.
*Edit: Also happy to see the Handgun not be S tier because of pure damage potential. The sheer versatility the Repeater gets from having multiple rounds with a good fire rate while retaining good damage per shot just makes it so superior to the Handgun in normal gameplay. But admittedly, the Handgun beats it in DWO games or things like Blosphorous, in those cases the Repeater just doesn't do enough damage to justify using it.
1h mace with Foot Knight make him invincible imo, it has very good thp generation on stagger, good crowd control, plenty of stamina shield, and decent armor damage. Horde clear is a bit lacking tho
Would be nice to explain why dual weapon and 2h longsword is S-tier. In regards to blunderbus: I don't like to sniper since I am frontliner and every sec distraction means getting hit for 40hp. So I prefer to fast swap/shoot the specials and swap back and go on. It can one-shot any special close by. Only assassins from behind/flank gets to me. Blunder us is indeed the worst for sniping, but most times you have elf or firemage for sniping in a team anyway.
Bretonnian Sword and Shield actually has really insane headshot value if u use it right, the only problem is that the light attacks have no stagger till you get to the bash, then enemies go flying. I mainly just use it when there's a warpfire thrower so seone can shoot it while I block it
So are we just ignoring spear and shield?
I hate the heavy attacks pattern of mace & sword. I cannot use this weapon because of this. On the other hand, I love bretonnian longsword, by far my favorite weapon in the game. I play it on all 4 Kruber careers and have a lot of fun with it. A very nice weapon that rewards you for knowing the different attack patterns to be able to seemlessly move from a horde clearing mode to kill a single armored elite within it, before going back to the horde without breaking your attack sequence. And the block while heavy attacking (and the fact you can hold the attack up to the right moment) is just gravy !
Don't forget Push Attack too on mace and Sword. What's to hate about the patturn? Easier then Duel Hammers not having thaat overhead, perfect attack for headshots
Doesn’t the mace and sword just heavy attack in a downward diagonal left and diagonal right pattern? I use it all the time and never had any issues.
I only disagree with RH over Handgun. The better you are the better Handgun is. The worse at sniping and fast swaping-shoot you are - the better RH is.
jtc stepping as low as hammer slander :(
Me, playing mercenary wielding a two-handed hammer and using a blunderbuss as my ranged.
Hmmmmmmmmmm…
Hey, Aslong ad it works
If you are playing the unmodded game especially, You can use everything just fine
Remember, meta doesn't really matter most of the time.
Good break down, people seem to have a love/hate with the shield and mace. I love it, then I do a run through with it and hate it, then another time it DESYROYS. ??
Can you do tier list for all weapons of all classes in a single tier list? i doubt you can say sword and dagger is better than coghammer, but maybe you can, who knows.
You said the executioner's sword is strong if you kit it out right... but what's the right way to kit it out in your opinion? I can't decide how to build my mercenary.
Executioner's sword? cleave and speed everywhere. You turn horde fight into just spaming light attacks.
15:35
Hey Ex swor is one of the weapons which can hit light enemies no matter how much heavy armored things there are. 0 dmg to armour but horse is cleaved.
I kinda hate it but yeah u can absolutely strike whole horde ignoring the CW which would block the attack if used 95% of any other weapons
do bardin or i'll put you in the book
Why in the hell everybody thinking 2h hammer is bad? It is THE best weapon on both Grail knight and warrior priest!
The first light is an overhead swing perfect for crushing skulls or rib cages.
The heavy combo is literally able to kill ANYTHING(except shields) with ease in a near 180* range.
It’s great against hordes, elites, armor, even monsters and next to shield users and getting interrupted mid charge up it has NO weaknesses that I’m aware of. It even has great range for bonking hook rats on the head before they grab you.
Use some basic footwork and timing and you’ll be damn near unstoppable! Bring a mace/shield as your backup and nothing but aoe and assassins stand a chance against you.
I just wish spear and shield was on grail knight then I’d never not play him.
Warrior priest has different hammer.
bret sword and shield is s tier for grail knight imo cause h can bring another melee weapon for dps
On the other hand, if you bring a shield you probably want to bring a more well rounded weapon for dps which would make you just an off brand merc that poops out str pots, has a worse ult and cannot shoot. The extra melee weapon slot allows for more specialized weapons to be selected making you the best melee fighter in the game.
Spear and shield S tier
Haha Executioner Sword go SWOOOOSH
going to do a bardin one next? :D
Did he miss out spear and shield?
Yeah he did
did u forgot spear&shield
Yo, I thought the bret sword and shield was godly.
Ah yes, wanting to come see which are the best weapons to jump to more difficulty, being roasted because all the ones I like are B, Great
I frankly gotta disagree with the blunderbuss placement. Specifically on huntsman it can wipe up anything that isn't a chaos warrior (but if you have a strength pot and ult you can mess up a patrol pretty well) or storm vermin with shield (even then you can push twice and immediately shoot em in the head). I also don't think it should matter if other characters have better versions cause the placement should be in the context of its strength on kruber and not other characters.
In my experience the spread is too low to make it a particularly good horde killer, and the range for being able to get one shots on most specials isn't too forgiving leaving it as a worse option than others in that category. It seems to just not specialize in any area well enough leaving it as a jack-of-all-trades on a hero who doesn't seem to need it. On Huntsman, what do you use it for that makes you say that it's better than where jtc places it?
@@Jalswim Hmm odd, I find it's horde clear capabilities are roughly the same as the grudge raker's even with the one shot, of course it doesn't shoot in a horizontal burst like the griffon foot but it can still make openings and clear plenty of enemies. I do agree with you that its range is fairly low but I think you do have to play differently to use it effectively. I tend to play it almost as though I'm playing a melee only class where I have to make use of my positioning and dodges to get enemies close within range to one shot em but it also depends on what special I'm going for. For example, something like gutter runners, leaches, and blightstormers generally have low enough health or big enough a hitbox to let you shoot from further away whereas things like ratlings, warpfires, and packmasters I gotta be much closer because they are either armored or in the case of packmasters inherently take less shotgun damage (Something to note when going against the warps and gunners is that if you even get a couple pellets on em it will stagger them leaving you time to either close the distance and shoot again or just keep staggering it). I'm not going to lie special killing is not its focus and generally you don't want to be the one who is mainly going for them but you definitely can fill the role if needed (I will add that blunderbuss is also great when you are dealing with hordes and specials at the same time because most people end up using single shot weapons like handgun or crossbow which you gotta be fairly accurate with and it can be tough in the middle of a horde to use those compared to the blunderbuss where you just look in the general direction of the special and shoot), I find its major use is creating breathing room or using it to clear mixed hordes with marauders, sv, or berserkers and even CWs can be beat if you ult. Frankly it is hard to use but if you can manage and learn its strength, weaknesses, when to shoot and when to wait it becomes one of my favourite huntsman weapons.
Respectfully disagree, that ammo count and non-existent range…bleh. Why go for a horde clear ranged weapons when most of kruber’s weapons already horde clear so well?
Don't you have to hit most (more than half) of the pellets in the head to trigger the passive for ammo gain and level 20 talent? That's not ideal because unless the barrel of your gun is inside an enemy's mouth you won't hit more than 50% in its head
@@Jijiweepee I've very rarely run out of ammo with it. I only really play cata so I just use the perk that gives ammo back on special kills. Also it's horde clear isn't the main focus but being able to get elites and specials in horde while also clearing enemies in the way of them.
I m so sad mace and shield is so uninsiring damagewise and overall.
Its literally mace one of the most anti armour weapons!
I really love to push attack - raising strike -push attack -... xombo it works on armies of CWs and etc really cool and i feel great... a bit weak tho and the only place it shines aide of pushes. Just why.
As far as i remember even in Vermintide 1 it feels a bit better, even for a little bit(((
Love taking sword and shield + mace and shield on Grail Knight - sword&shield for speed and hordes, and mace and shield against elites and etc. YEah, its not that good but its so fun to use i cant stad being that ineffective!((( (i use skins in such a way so my shields look the same and it feels cool too cause looks as i swap only the weapons)
Also yes, why devs didnt buff the hammer? Its a SIGMAR'S weapon it should be a menace! But it s a bit of a boomer.
the biggest issue with the bow is this
do you have a kirrilian on your team?
Hi JCT :D
Putting shield and mace at b tier only tells me that you must not be very good at playing tank.
Sword and Shield is a bit better overall, Mace and Sword just easier to use with it's only real attack patturn being Push Attack to light attack and repeat
@@prich0382 But the gap when chaining push attack and heavy attack with sword and shield is MUCH longer than just
chaining push attack to light attack with the shield and mace.
You don't have to open yourself up as much and risk dying to do damage.
@@swaghettimemeballs4420 Well you do it mostly in Low enemy count situations, not during dense hoard so your point is a bit moot aha. I've never really had a problem getting hit during it
Well I am new to this game and you been lost for words about S Tier Sword & Mace and Bretonnian Sword is not very helpful. Kinda the opposite of the point of this video. I watch these to hear your opinion. Anyway enjoyed your other content.
While that's true, this is probably aimed at people who know the weapons anyway (i.e. non-brand new players still looking for some guidance, or simply for discussion).
In any case, he did say one thing about the two weapons: they do everything you need them to do very well. To expand this, both M&S and Bret Longsword have good horde clear, good elite killing, good defence and good boss damage. Both also benefit greatly from Grail Knight and Mercenary's increased damage from passives and Reikland Reaper respectively, or even Foot Knight's from staggering force and Comrades in Arms. Very well tuned weapons indeed, with no real weaknesses.
For more specifics:
Mace & Sword - Very simple moveset with wide sweeps the do good damage, even to armoured enemies. Lights and push attacks for hordes, heavies and push attacks for elites and monsters. Simple and effective.
Bret longsword - A bit more complex, but has excellent horde clear with light/light/block cancel OR heavy/heavy/block cancel (can substitute any light or heavy with the opposite quite easily here). It has good damage, and it it has a variety of moves that are great for elite killing/boss damage, such as push attack/heavy/light/heavy/light (last two can be repeated indefinitely without needing to restart the whole combo), or through just chaining heavies as described above for horde clear. It also has a good number of dodges and stamina, which combined with its +20% dodge range and ability to block attacks while holding a heavy attack makes it a very nimble weapon that's great on the defence. Possibly my favourite weapon on Kruber tied with Sword and Shield, and Rapier on Saltzpyre for my overall favourite.
Hopefully this wall of text helps in some way. This is taken from my experience playing primarily cata & legend, but others have things that work for them better.
My only other advice would be to not take things like tier lists or advice like mine above as gospel. Try stuff out, see what you like. I promise you that you'd do better with a C tier weapon you enjoyed than an S tier you hated, as is my experience with executioner's sword. Again, try stuff out!
I agree with sirdiesalot, I’m sorry it wasn’t helpful to you but these videos are meant more for experienced players so we can have a discussion rather than newer players trying to figure out what to use.
I said it in a previous tierlist video but every weapon is useable as is on base game content (even up through cata twitch mode) and generally falls to which weapons you like the most and which ones fit your play style. Don’t look to my tier lists (or anyones for that matter) for which weapon to use but spend time playing with each of them yourself to find out which ones you enjoy using the most.
@@sirdiesalot2975 Tbh I havent played for ages, totally missing the period when the new careers got dropped, and even after I got back, I ignored GK, so this is a useful writeup.
TLDR: buy DLCs if you want good weapons
Oh did this vid aged poorly. Exe on C is a sin on itself lol
Interesting and uselful list. Personally just don't like halfs like SA, AB etc. Just make mind and put stuff on full tiers :)
1H Mace has Zero Cleave, yuck
Greatsword is underrated :(
It's just good at Hoards and that's it, heavy attacks allows Cleave through armour too so mixed Hoards/Elites it's alright too. Workable weapon, but single target DPS not great.
well guess this video isnt newb friendly since theres no explanation for S tiers
TLDR from another comment but don't look at tier lists for what weapon to use as a new player, every single one of them is inherently biased by whoever made them and you should spend the time playing with them to see which one you like yourself
@@jtcLIVE fair enough i suppose still wouldve liked an explanation from a much higher level player for insight nonetheless
im sorry but this list is completely ass backwards. bret s and shild is grail knights best weapon, period (at least on cata and higher). the amount of breathing room and thp is weapon gives is unmatched. as for his other shild weapons, mace and shield is definitly better than sword and shield, and spear and shield is completly missing. As for ranged weapons: im kinda ok with your order, but i wouldnt say they are that differnet to warrant putting them in differnt tiers. handgun and longbow are about matched for huntsman and repeater is more convenient for his other careers due to its ammo capacity. the only thing i rally agree on is bret longsword which is OP AF. mace and sword is good but definitly not S tier and id place x sword a tier lower, its only "meta" on GK with an agressive X Sword Mace and Sword build. spear is overrated in my opinion it was played alot on huntsman but imho spear and shield is far better. also big hammer is not in the same tier as greatsword. as much as i love greatsword, it only good for one thing and that is hordes hammer is a bit of jack of all trades, its good for armor and hordes and passable for the rest solid B tier or in your case A-AB tier. As for the rest of the weapons: i love to play halberd but id place it about the same as you, as even if you play it flawlessly it still not meta, and the other i dont play much only on random weapon runs on CW
No agressive Grail is far better overall then defensive grail. Mace and Sword+Ex Sword, perfect combination, no weaknesses.
Mace and Sword is S tier cus it's disgustingly good vs Hoard and Unarmoured Elites plus becuase the Heavy attacks position is really easy to almost get 100% headshots. Ex Sword is also S tier on Grail as it's the best anti Armour weapon grail can use for 1 hit SV on the heads and only a few hits to kill a Chaos Warrior.
@@prich0382this would be the second best build imo
bretonnian sword and shield in Ab or bretonnian lingsword in C? lol dude you habe know nothing about these wepons,
2h hammer in B tier your list is instantly invalidated. You lose. Bye bye.
I mean it's only good at staggering almost everything so lol. DPS is low.