Thanks so much for the review. I just bought the 70D and have been very happy with it, but several friends keep telling me about how great the 6D is. For me, the 70D fits in better with my needs of video and photos, and also into my budget. The focusing for video is amazing. You can get pull focus just by touching the screen.
I own the 6D. It's the king of lowlight from canon. I love it since I do most of my shooting in low light settings. I think the only thing you didn't mention was the sensitivity of the autofocus in the dark, which I don't think most people worry about but makes a difference. The 6D goes to -3 EV besting even the 5Dmark 3 at -2EV (center focus point ) and the 70D center focus point is rated at -.5EV. For those looking for lowlight performance the 6D is it :) I enjoy your reviews! Keep them coming :)
I have a Canon 6D. There's a lot to both love, and also hate. The construction is rather flimsy. But it's small and light weight. It has very few autofocus points. The color is very pleasing and natural. It's inexpensive for a full frame camera. The L series lenses, which are supremely good, are also frightfully expensive. I got it mostly just because it's my first full frame camera. But I also have a supreme quality Nikon DX format camera.
I love my 70D. Just love it. Also, thanks for all these wonderful videos you make. Just wanted to let you know we appreciate your opinion and your hard work.
I bought a 70D n am really happy that I went that way! Dual pixel cmos is fantastic and amazing iso performance, all my lenses are prime and of f1.4 and 2.8!
Awesome comparison Toby! I loved your 70D videos, they made me buy it... and i couldn't be happier! Here some considerations... I used both cameras, I bought a 70D in first place because of the slightly cheaper price and because i already had some ef-s glass so i didnt want to throw that away with a 6D, but actually got a 6D borrowed from a friend. I gotta admit that the 6D has a cool image quality, the full frame body is pretty good for landscapes, but if you want my opinion the best camera is the 70D. It is faster, i missed the screen soooooo much when using the 6D, it has probably the smartest autofocus i've ever seen. The AF issue on the 70D is not that deal for me, i actually made some tests but seriously, nothing to really care about for me. The low light performance of the 6D is ofc better, but the 70D has probably the best crop sensor, noise reduction is not top notch but you have some awesome raws you can process later. The lens factor is to consider as well. I'm an indie videomaker and i love to capture stills... as a consequence i needed that versatily of the body, and all the glass i needed for a cheap price. Consclusions: 70D: videomaking, walkaround, sports, wildlife and a better general purpose camera as well. 6D: landscape, stills only, prepared tripod shots and portraits.
:) a comparison i have never actually seen and that i'd love to see in a video is olympus OMD-EM1 vs 70D. i might get a mirrorless just to quickly snap some pics and it would be cool to compare so different cameras just to see where they differenciate :)
Thanks since I am considering a 70D. I really didn't consider the 6D but very happy you compared the two, You affirmed my decision. BTW - to those who say you are comparing apples and oranges, I would say yes, it isn't a straight comparison, but the difference between crop and full sensors isn't as obvious as the difference between an apple and an orange.
Great review! I just got my 6D today and i'm very excited to start using it. As you said i'm not really into fast shooting, sports etc. Im more into landscapes, portraits and image quality is very important to me, getting into the full frame field is something i was dreaming of long time ago. Thanks!
I was thinking of buying 5DM3 but I really really love the autofocus dual pixel on the 70D's I just can't make a final decision. If only 5DM3 has 70d's features. I'm not too sure how quiet the lens are for 5D's. Any tips?
Awesome review as always! One question. I'm currently using a Canon t5i, but recently I start shooting weddings and portraits so i'm thinking about upgrading it to a full frame camera like 6d. Would you recommend upgrading the camera or buy a nice lens such as 24-70,etc? I have a 50mm f1.4, and a 18-135 kit lens. Thank you!
Eric C I do like the idea of moving up to the 6D for you. In the lower light situations that you often encounter at weddings, receptions especially they full frame low light performance of the 6D will be very welcome. Continue to use your 50mm f/1.4 and pick up the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 (fantastic lens for the money)
Just purchased the Canon T5i and want to begin purchasing other lens for the camera. Your videos have really helped me understand the differences in the various lens and how to use them. Thanks for all your hard work in providing these helpful videos.
Hello and thank you for all your videos. As always to the point and very enjoyable. Do you have a "best budget lens guide for canon full frame" video? I just ordered a 6D , moving from Sony a6000 I have only a canon 50f1.8 and an old canon 24-85 f3.5-4.5. I will have to slowly grow my Canon lens and would love to hear your suggestion. Thank you and keep those videos coming.
Thanks for this vid Toby! These are the two cameras I'm considering (the 6D and 70D)! I had an idea for a book, and a publisher agreed to publish. Now I need to shoot the pics (my old point & shot just doesn't cut it.) So I really don't need video, GPS, WIFI...just clarity and increased pixels for printing my photos in a book. The photos are going to be things to do on vacation - meaning pics of museums, water activities, inside of shops, street scenes, landscapes, etc. And cost is very much a consideration. So, would I be satisfied with the less expensive 70D? I'm concerned about the full frame when shooting a skyline pic for instance. Also, I've found an import 6D. Much less expensive. Should I consider this? Any comment would help! Thanks!
Great video. I own both 6D and 70D. The both have their uses and shine when used correctly. I think you hit on all the important parts within a suitable timeframe (just under 13 minutes). Earned a subscription from me!
As usual, you made a very informative video that both me and my wife (ALSO MY ASSISTANT) understand. We have the 70D and are keeping it and buying the 6D for Weddings and low light events. Thanks again Toby!
I have both of these cameras, and find they are quite a nice combination (usage Pending) 6d for stills and static video work, and 70d for primarily video and a back up body.
This a very nice coincidence 😊 I just sold my xe 1 and was looking to buy a new camera, so I was in the canon store comparing these 2 cameras side by side and I came to a similar conclusion, but man did I fall in love with the full frame sensor smooth performance in high ISO .
I owe70D. I was considering 70D and 6D to buy some time. I bought 70D for focusing, filming, articulating screen and latest technology. The size of the frame DOES NOT matter comparing those two. Anyway, it is no point in upgrading to full frame in my case as 70D covers all my demands .
I really appreciate the review. I've been kicking myself for jumping on the 70D for my first DSLR instead of going full frame but this comparison makes me feel like I'm in better shape than I thought I was. The articulating LCD is pretty nice.
Did you end up eventually going to full frame? I kept my 70D because I have a great selection of lenses, but recently bought a 6Dii and three EF lenses that I can still share with my 70D.
Thanks for this nice overview. I am completely satisfied with my 6D. Here in Germany the camera drops in price weekly, currently are prices from 1450-1500€ realistic. The only thing is the missing continuous autofocus during video mode.
Hey Toby, I'm looking to invest in one of these cameras. I'm a headshot photographer (both inside and outside of the studio), shoot concerts, editorial work, but I also shoot video occasionally. I have the t3i currently and I frequently use the articulating lens, though I'm drawn to the 6D for the image quality. Which do you think I should invest in? P.S. With either camera I'm looking to get either the 50mm 1.4 or the 40mm 2.8
I had a 6D for 2 yrs., sold it bought a 5D III, sold it went back to the 6D & recently purchased a 70D for the crop aspect to go along with my Tammy 150-600:) 5D was a nice camera, but the weight w/grip was too much for me & the pics were not any better than I got with the 6D! Sig 35 art, tam 24-70 vc & tam 70-200 vc:)
Great review. Thank you so much. I have the 70D. After watching this video I'm so glad that I invested in this model. I feel that it's a good all around camera for any situation.
HI...nice comparison...want to update my body..and want to buy lenses 100-400 II or Sigma 150-600 ..which body and lenses should i buy ...want to do birding, wild life and general photos
Great video! Which one of these two would you recommend for concert photography? Full frame and better details make me wanna go with 6D, but the focusing and the better performance with moving objects sound like a huge pro for 70D. Any thoughts?
I am looking at the 70d for birding photography because of the crop factor compared to the full frame 6d. I plan on running the 400mm 5.6 and the 1.4x extender. In your opinion would this be a good setup? Thanks.
I have the 70d and have been wanting to do more landscape so was considering a 24 or 28mm lens (as asked in another of your videos). But now I'm thinking of getting the 6d for the full frame. My main long lenses (70-200 L and 70-300 L) and my primes can be used on 6d but would need a 24-105 kit lens too. Would that be a better option than investing in more lenses for my 70d?
great video, i am a wave photographer and i think the 70D would be great for me but the crop sensor kinda worries me that i'm not gonna get that whole wave shot. if i were to get the lens you were talking about do you think it would be close to a full frame? thank you so much -Jacob
GREAT VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECT, WHEN IT COMES TO VIDEO, THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF THE 70D IS BETTER? WHAT ABOUT THE 7D, 5D(SERIES) DO YOU HAVE VIDEOS OF THOSE, BASICALLY LOOKING TO PURCHASE A DSLR FOR VIDEO. THANKS
You have watched the more recent video too 70D vs 6D and more it really depends on what kind of video you want to shoot - easy with continual autofocus? 70D is best. Best low light performance manually focusing? 5D Mark III 7D is ok but I see no reason to buy that over 70D.
Hey Toby, cool and factual comparison! I got the 70D but i'm about to buy a 6D soon. Have you got any experience about workin with the Tokina 11-16mm or 11-20mm on a fullframe like the 6D?
Thanks for the great review! But i'm still not quite sure which camera to choose because initially i was thinking of the 6D because of its low light performance but i'm more into videos. Is the 70D's focus feature really worth it if i'm inclining more towards videos? I'm really concerned of the image quality under low light.
get the 70D for autofocus...it is incredible. I have a t3i( good camara for video also) but you have to have your hand on the focus ring everytime a person moves their head. with the 70D, it does everything for you.
Hi Toby, Very informative review. Thanks ! I have a question for you. My 70D has the central focus point issue. I am looking for a nes lens. I want it as sharp as possible even though I got this issue and it is really a bugger for me. I am leaning toward the 40mm f/2.8 IS STV or 50mm f/1.4. Having this issue, which one will give me the best sharpness all open?
Hi Toby, I have a Canon G11 a point and shoot Camera. And Now I am thinking of upgrading and buying my first DSLR. I am a Hobbyist Photographer. I use the camera mostly while travelling or at any events. I mostly use it for Clicking Images and not much for videos. I have shortlisted the following DSLRs Canon 70D /Nikon D7100/ /Sony A7/Olympus OMD EM1 My budget is around $1500-$1800(with Lens). Kindly suggest me which one to buy. Thanks!!!
I have to say the OMD Em1 is very tempting - lots of great quality in that small package. Sony a7 is also very nifty but you have to deal with the shifting sands of sony and a much smaller ecosystem. D7100 and 70D are very good but bigger and heavier with bigger lenses.
Hi there Toby! I got a question about 70D. Does it have all manual option in video mode? I am asking cause thats one of the thing I like with full frame ( I have a 6D). I can get my own balance between ISO, Shutterspeed adn aparteure. Now can I get that as well with 70D or is it all automatic? An important issue to mention when comparing video capability?
Thank you for such a great review that answers an awful lot , certainly the best I have come across. Can you recommend the best lens for the 70D to catch up to the 6D in low light condition's. Thanks Craig
Hey there, awesome vdo and I thank you for solving some of the most basic but choice altering pros and cons of these both fantastic devices. One question though, if on a crop censor I add a wide angle lens, does that come close to the full frame censor? Can you show in a diagram so I can understand? I still have to buy one, and full frame or not, that is the question. Thanks & Ciao!
Hey Toby! Great video man, I subscribed and I'm sure it will be worth it! I'm a college campus photographer (student) and I do a fair amount of video, though not as much as simply take pictures. Which one do YOU think I should get?
Hi Toby just watched your comparison between crop and full frame camera, now i have question regarding upgrade. I have a Canon 70d and i love this camera but somehow I realize I wanna upgrade my camera on a full frame sensor and i have a friend as me to trade his 5d mark2 into my canon 70d. Do you think is a wise idea to trade in? hope you could help me thanks a lot!!
thanks a lot toby, i respect what you did on here. please can you tell the difference between the video image made with a crop sensor and the one from full frame? when you watch tv for example. thanks
HI, Thank you for the video, I have a question that I can not find an answer to. If you shoot Full HD video with both cameras, is there any difference in video quality. In speaking with a Canon rep, I thought he said 1920 x 1080 does not use the whole sensor on a full frame, or crop body , but closer to the crop sensor so video may be slightly better on a crop body due to capturing more data. Did I mis-hear or misunderstand what he said. Thank You, Frank
I have the 70D and I think you are right, it is great all around-- and I really like it for videos. One of my family members has the 6D and does a lot of macro photography and I think it is fantastic for this.
Thanks, this is an excellent comparison. Currently (as of May 2015) there's a ~$400 price difference between the 6D and 70D. I don't think I'd miss the higher shutter speed of the 70D, but the articulating touch screen and better focusing system would be a loss. But my biggest concern is low light, and the 6D is very good (even compared with 5D MKII).
Thanks for the Review Toby! At the moment, I've been shooting landscape and portrait the most with my Canon t3i. After two years I think its time to upgrade. I was thinking the 6d since it does well with what I do. Do you think Its a good idea to upgrade now? Or wait it off until we see what other things canon plans to offer? Thanks!
DannySkateTV We probably will see a 6D replacement late this year might still be early 2016. Price/value of the 6D is quite good right now. What lens(es) do yo uhave for T3i?
Thanks for the reply! Right now I have the Canon 1.8 50mm, Canon 28-105 3.5-4.5 and rokinon 8mm fisheye. Was thinking of going to 6d, looks like an amazing camera and the price is right as of right now.
Hi I'm deciding between the Canon 6D and the 70D. I want to do a lot of landscapes so I'm going more towards the 6D. But am I going to have a really hard time with fast moving object like race cars and say water skiing?
Toby thanks for the review! I'm a food photographer and I occasionally do portraits for families (and kids). I don't want more camera than I really need and I'm upgrading from a Rebel T3. Would you go for the 6D or 70D? Thanks.
Thanks. I have the 50mm 1.4 now. One frustration I face is the crop factor. I find I have trouble getting far enough away for some shots and often have to stand on something (especially when doing a headshot) to get the framing right. My 50 acts like an 85 or a 90 and my 100mm macro, more like a 160mm on a full frame. I sort of hate that!
Rachel Ballard Ah yes - You do need room to use the longer primes on a crop factor. My partner Christina felt the same way and was SO happy when she moved to full frame. So maybe that would be better for you considering you already have those lenses. My only initial hesitation - the 6D focus can be a little slow for active kid portraits. Support my work- buy from B&H: bit.ly/TobysBHgear Amazon: geni.us/DPRAmazon
Hi & thanks for the interesting & informative video, I have a Canon 650D as its known here in the UK and am thinking of upgrading to full frame be it on a limited budget. The lenses I have are, Canon zoom lens EF 70-200mm 1:4 L IS usm. Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8. Canon EF 50mm 1:!.8 11. Canon EF28mm 1 : 2.8. In your opinion would I be better going for a 6D price here just now £1032 new or a used 5DMk111 @ around £1500 depending on condition. Thanks again
+Peter Davidson I would probably spend a little more to get a 5DM3- The 6D is a very good camera but focus points are few and focus can be slower. If shooting outside anyone moving- family portraits with little kids? the 5D is going to provide better results, also has higher flash sync speed.
6d does not have enough focus points and only the center point is cross-type. The 70d has 19 all cross-type AF points and better autofocus in low light. I own both. If I could only have one it would be the 70d.
Donna A, do you have any L lenses on your 70D? I’d like to know only because I have the same exact camera and am considering buying a 24-70 2.8 and a 79-209 2.8. I would like to know your answer please please
I have just upgraded my lens for the T3i with a Sigma 17-55mm but I would like to know if I would get more quality on low light upgrading to 6D? not sure if I still upgrading my lenses or the body camera Thanks!
Great Video! I switched from a T4i to a 6D a few months ago. Every point Toby made is spot on IMO. I do mostly Landscape Photos along with Portraits. The 6D is outstanding in low light. My t4i was way faster in FPS and had the Cross Type Focus Points, but that hasn't hindered my Shots. I missed the Vari-Angle Screen of the T4i, and was hoping the Wi-Fi would be a bit more user friendly. As Toby mentioned, DSLR Controller is much better than EOS App. DSLR Controller is worth the $8.00 I paid for it. I bought a Cable because of connectivity issues of Wi-Fi. (Just a bit of a pain.)The Images with my Tamron SP 90mm Macro, and 24-105mm L, and "Nifty 50mm" are what I was hoping for in an upgrade to a Full Frame Sensor. I got my Camera for just under $1600.00 on Amazon (Body Only). It was not Gray Market.
Toby - Just a comment: I'm leaning towards a 6D but heard that my Canon AF 70-200 mm lens will now not be as long as it used to with my cropped-sensor camera, it will be a true 70-200 mm. This feels like a loss to me as I do a lot of photography in stadiums or football fields where the zoom is essential. So still wondering whether to go with a 70D or a 6D. Question: How does the 7D (not 70D) compare to the 6D? Thanks in advance.
JKPOrigins no the 6D is only good for showing pretty colours in a photo, if those pretty colours move at all you’ve missed the shot waiting for the 6D to find the focus according to video. Also if there is a focus issue with 6D you can’t adjust it as you can with the 70D in the settings. One stop is nothing in low light when you need to shoot at 15000 iso. 6D is pretty much useless over the 70D unless it’s your first camera to get pretty colours or you keep it on a tripod.
Thanks so much for your video, Toby! This cleared up a lot of my questions. I'm just getting started (I've had a T3i for a couple of years now) and was wonder what my next purchase would be. Keep up the great vids!
CameraRec Toby yes i have a question. iv had 3 70d's. not all with the same problem but i returned them all. researching which camera i want i keep coming back to the 70d.because there are things i love about the camera. but that hit and miss focus issue worries me. im not that rich. so can you tell me what the lates you have heard if any thing on the 70d focus issue. thanks David.
PhotoRec Toby I have a Nikon D3200 and the YN-568Speedlight and I can´t shoot over 1/200. The Canon 70D will be my next camera and I think it can shoot over than 1/200 with a HSS speedlight...did you try? Thanks!
hi toby,,i'm trying to decide on the 70d or the 6d mostly for portraits,,is there a big difference in the image quality?,,i know the 6d has a full frame but if I use a quality lens for both is there really much difference in the image quality? And would the 70d have better video quality than my canon vixia hf r400 camcorder, portraits will be printed on the canon pixma pro-100.....Hope I can get some help here before I buy. Thanks.
+John Woods I have both cameras right now. I love the 70D. But I bought the 6D because I wanted to get better image quality. And I do not regret that decision at all. And even if the 70D is the best dslr for video, your camcorder will do just as good or better for video, except for the lack of controlling the dept of field(my guess).
Another sound video Toby. I sense you wanted to give nod to the 70D. I understand the full frame set with the dollars invested are a bit loathe to fully appreciate the lessor sensor. Your balance on the subject is much appreciated.
Hello, I've a question though. I've been doing part time/freelance videography for my company for 2-3years and recently I thought maybe I can start my own freelance service to more customer instead of sticking all my project with my employer. Although I know how to take a video(Shoots and framing etc) but I am not very good with different type of camera. It means I do not know what are the differences between this camera and another camera and what this specific camera is better use for. Some of my friends recommended me for canon 6D while some others recommended me canon 70D and fewer recommended my Oylmpus Mark ii due to it's 5 axis. In your video, 70D is recommended for videography but I heard from a store that video shot for 70D cannot be use for 6D. And also 6D has better low light iso. So i'm abit confuse here. I am planning to get a camera which I can start out for my freelance Videography job such as events and product launch. Do you have any recommendations perhaps?
Hi Toby, I have a question. Currently I owe the Canon t5i and have been taking plenty of portraits, mostly headshots and theatre shots. Because of the level of noise in the second category, I've been considering jumping into the Canon 6D, but I'm not 100% sure if it would be a good idea yet. Would you be able to give me any suggestions on this matter?
Hello! Great job! can you help me? My first camera is 5dmarkIII and I need a second camera. I shoot videos in low light (wedding videographer) and I want my second camera to match with my first camera. What is your recomandation betwen 6d and 70d? My second camera I will use it on tripode, slider, glide or minicrane. Sorry about my bad english :)
Hi Toby, great video as always. I've got the rebel t4i (650d) & plan to get a full frame camera. It's between the 6d and 5d mk3. I was surprised that the 5d doesn't have wifi & GPS like the 6d as it's more expensive. Maybe that's a feature that will be on the 5d mk4(?) I'm soon to become a 2nd shooter in the near future.What are your thoughts on 6d vs 5d mk3
canon 5d miii is out in the market for such a long time where people doesn't care that much yet of wifi and GPS while the 70d and 6d are just new models from canon but both of them can't beat the image quality and versatility of 5d miii.....that's why many pros still prefer 5d miii and it is expensive because it's top of the line....
I agree with everything Junjun jr. Llauderes said except 6D image quality is on par with 5D Mark III and in some cases a little better with a newer sensor. I tell you having the little bit more speed from the 5D Mark III can be very nice during key moments of weddings. Also dual card slots. But if 6D allows you to spend on some good lenses it may be worth it to save. Happy to chat about this more.
9:20 - For all RUclipsrs interested in this for *video's*. Key "silent STM lens". I've been researching the D70 for two months now... this review is *100%* on point.
Thanks MichaelN! One thing RUclipsrs who do talking head videos like me - you can get away with non-STM lenses because often you just get focus, switch to manual and start recording - no movement means no need for autofocus.
I decided to just stick with the STM as a beginner it's the best rout for me. It didn't want to have to deal with trying to focus it would burn up my creativity before I hit record lol Purchased D70 and the Rode Pro Mic (for my up coming 30th) and just give that a run for now.
Hello! Thanks for this brilliant summary. Can I throw you a slight curve ball...I would like to buy a camera that has the video capability of the 70d but not compromise on the image quality offered by the 6d's full-frame sensor. Can you possibly advise? Many thanks
+Nick Franks Nope - nothing offers that larger sensor and easy touchscreen and dual pixel except the Canon c100. that's 2,999 though - not cheap. Full frame is not all that. Some of the newer crop sensors are excellent.
+PhotoRec Thank you! So, for a relative beginner it's more advisable than, say, a Sony A7S system? Thought learning, I'm wanting to produce films and stills and for the system I buy to be an investment into the next 10 years. Appreciate your time...I'll be sure to share your channel. N
I have had a 600d for a year and a half now and i;ve shot several short films and photographs with it. I was thinking of upgrading to the 70d, because of the autofocus, but i have heard that its sensor is almost the same as the 600d. I was thinking of a full frame, but all of my lenses are for cropped sensors, and they are quite a few. What would you suggest???
i also have a t3i...great camara for video. i also want to upgrade to 70D for the autofocus. the t3i sensor is a digi4...the 70D has a digi5...a little bit better...faster processing.
usachef100 digic4 or digic5 is not the sensor it is the processor...And the sensor on the 70D is totally different to the 600D only the APS-c size is the same.
Thanks for the video - very helpful. Q: Microphone input: I understand that there is a direct mike input on the 6D. How do you get a mike into the 70D so that you can record audio directly onto the internal memory card without having to sync later? Thanks!
Which one should i buy? Canon 80D, 6D or Sony a6300? I want it mostly for video production. Is 4k really worth it? Can someone point out why would a Canon (80D or 6D) be better than a Sony a6300?. Thanks a lot :)
Great review on these two. Thought I'd take you up on your offer at the end, I'm in need of some advice! Looking for a camera for around the £700-800 mark and I've quickly come to the conclusion that (being used to canon cameras already) the 5D mkii, 6D and 70D are my best options. This is where I've gotten stuck - I've heard that the 5D mkii has the best image quality potential (narrowly), but the 6D has some great updated features which I appreciate, although I haven't found a final conclusion on which focusing system is better in general, as reviews seem to only discuss the better low-light focusing of the 6D. The 70D has so many great features it's hard to not consider, even though I'd prefer a full frame, and the lower price really makes it a worthwhile comparison. I'll be doing product photography, some portraits and some filming too at work, but would like it to be good for hobby use too (landscapes etc). One of my main questions right now is whether lenses would be interchangeable between full frame canons and cropped. I wouldn't want to end up buying a 70D, spending money on some nice lenses only to have to sell them if i ever upgrade to a full frame. And if buying full frame compatible lenses would lower the image quality on a 70D, then that's just not worth it. I've heard mixed things on this, some saying they lower quality and others saying that the EF range is designed to work on both? Thanks in advance for any advice.
+Harry Saleh EF-S is for crop sensors only, EF is compatible with both. I find your comments interesting as I'm also looking at those three cameras myself. I currently have a 5D mk1 but I want better low light performance and video mode.
+Simon Winn-Smith I went with a 6D in the end, I have a 50mm prime f1.8 on it at the moment and low-light performance is unbelievable! I haven't used the video mode much, which makes me feel sure that I made the right decision, but from what I have tried with it, it seems perfectly good. I can fully appreciate full frame now and would not look at crop if I was to make the decision again, but then I need pro-quality photos from my camera for work and video would be mostly hobby use.. If you'll end up with a FF eventually then you'll probably only get EF lenses and not save any money with a 70d there. I found 6d and 7d mk2 bodies new on eBay for around £800 each: I weighed up FF, low light and image quality vs video & sports and went from there! AF system seems completely fine to me too, but then they'd all have been a big step up for me anyway. :)
+Harry Saleh Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm probably similar to you in needs, except it's purely hobby use. I like shooting in available light handheld and I also have (and love) a 50mm F1.8. I could well be going for that 6D!
HI Tody, Thanks for your review. The video is very Good and Helpful. Can you tell me which of the below is a better option- Option 1: Canon 70D with Canon L Series lens. Option 2: Canon 7D Mark ii with Canon EF lens. Which one gives me a better photo?
Neither.... i would recommend the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8. The 70D is better than the 7D but the glass will not make such a big difference. L glass would make a difference of a full frame sensor. Between your two options there will be very little difference. L glass on crop sensor is a waste of money. The Sigma 18-35 is tack sharp and perfect for a crop sensor.
merasanam I disagree with your comment that L glass would not make much difference on a crop sensor. I use myself and quality lens shines through to final images. But I do agree that on full frame the L series lenses have greatest effect.
discuss21 You disagree but then you also agree.... L glass will not make a BIG difference on a crop sensor. It will be better but in any case not the same as on a full frame sensor. In fact it will make very little difference compared to the price paid for L glass (x times the cost of the body). You are better off with decent crop sensor lens (price vs results).
merasanam You seem determined to disagree and spread misinformation like a troll. I am curious about your motives. I sense you are biased. Do you in fact own or have any direct experience of Canon L series lenses? Methinks not. I have run witnessed tests using various lenses on full frame and cropped sensor cameras. I discovered L series lenses deliver high quality images on both cropped and full framed cameras. The price of L glass is an issue for most people including me. Why do you say it makes very little difference and one is better off with a crop sensor lens? Better off how? Only if one is prepared to completely sacrifice image quality to save some money. Note: There are quite a few web reports of poor quality images and serious autofocusing issues with the Sigma 18-35 mm f1.8 lens you mentioned earlier as being tack sharp. Your mileage obviously differs ...
18-35mm has focus issues when used with the viewfinder. I am aware of that. In video mode it has perfect focus since it has continuous feedback. For the rest, just search for the video called "Should you use Full Frame Lenses on Crop Bodies? Yes and No..." by Tony Northrup and you'll see everything real numbers measured scientifically and not by "I've read somewhere". And you should choose your information carefully if you are willing to accept an advice. For the rest i don't give a damn what other think.
Thanks Toby. This video lead to the selection of my 70d. 70d trumps the 60d, aside from ISO (1 stop noisier and shallower DOF). Im glad that 70d has more range of lens and cheaper too.
i had a canon 550d with a 18-55 and 50mm 1.8 lens. I had used it almost for 5 years. unfortunately my house got burgled and those guys took away my entire camera bag. Now i am researching to upgrade and am seriously considering a full frame canon. I have shortlisted canon 6D with 24-70 f4 lens. 5d mark 3 is out of my budget. I found a lot of constraints in the last 1 year or so with my 550D with respect to field of view maybe the lens could have been upgraded. do you think this will help me with landscape as well as portrait photography than investing in 70D plus a lens other thank kit lens. i also in the long term will invest in a prime L lens. For sure will insure all my camera equipment this time.
I originally purchased the 70D based on your review some time ago. I recently purchased the 6D and I'm trying to get used to not having a touch screen and the seemingly slower tracking system. Anyhow, I was wondering would it be possible for you to maybe make another video addressing some of the 6D's shortcomings and workarounds for them? (E.g. low flash sync speed, focus points, etc). I've already purchased an ND filter to counter the shutter limitations. Any help or suggestions would be a great to help us new 6D owners get acclimated to shooting with it. Thanks for reading.
Thanks for this - This was a tough call but Full Frame sold it for me so have a 6D. 70D was close as I do video work too - might pick up a refurbished 70D down the line but the video mode in 6D is very good.
Hey Toby, been watching all your videos for a while now and was wondering if I could ask for some help because i'm just a beginner. I'm going on vacation here shortly to cabo and purchased a Nikon D3300 for it. Here is a link to the place that I am going to and basically I want to take photos similar to this. Capella Pedregal- Deluxe Ocean view king- European plan Oct 25 2013. Would you PLEASE recommend a Nikon lense for me to buy under $400 that will give me the best shots and clarity. I would appreciate it sooo much!
Nice comparison. I own a 6D and love it for landscape work, but I might buy a 70D to cover portrait and wildlife photography. Love the 19 point AF on the 70D and the crop is great for extra reach on the lenses.
I have both bodies. I find that it is a good combination. I use the 70D because of its frame rate and auto focus for sports and video. I use the 6D for its resolution, noise handling and frame size for landscapes and macro.
+Neil Hamilton Photography I did exactly the same. But since I also have a mobile phone, tablet, compact camera and a video camera with 1080P/HD, I don't use my 70D much anymore. I tend to use the 6D for photo and the smaller devices that I have anyway as a video recorder. I travel a lot and save some weight and space that way. But it will be hard to say goodbye to my 70D, because I love everything about that camera, except the image quality. That was the only reason I bought the 6D.
I have a 70D and love it. It performs like a champ at air shows but now I'm thinking of adding a 6D to get the full frame benefits but I will be keeping the 70D for the faster stuff. I think It would be a great combo especially since they use the same memory cards and batteries.
Thanks for the video. Very informative. I though the 70D was suppose to perform better at low light with much smother high ISO. I like taking music pictures or night events and this was the main reason why I was going to get one. Now im thinking of getting a 6D after all the reviews. Any comments ?
70D does perform better than most other crop sensor cameras but still can't compete with the much bigger full frame sensor. If lower light is where you will mostly be taking photos 6D would be better but for low light music/concerts with more active performers you may be frustrated with the slower focus of the 6D. What you have for lenses? maybe 70D with a nice fast lens is a good compromise.
Hey Sly5862 I have the 6D and can tell you it's a great performance in low light conditions. Especially if combined with a fast piece of glass such as the 50 mm 1.4. You can almost shoot in the dark at high ISO, it's quite impressive. But like Toby said, if you need to shoot fast moving objects and action, perhaps the 70D offers a better focusing system. Having said that I never had any problems because 99% of the times I only use the center focus point on my 6d which is a cross type, and as fast as most people need.
The 1/180 sync limit is because it's full frame or so I was told by a Canon rep... Don't know what's up with the shutter speed limit of 1/4000 though. But as a Fashion/glam shooter the 6D quality is what I need since I'm not shooting sports and such.
70D provides that amazing video autofocus and 6D provides better low light quality. If you are ok shooting video manual focus 6D. If you really want the easy focus of the 70D- go with the. . 70D :)
Thanks so much for the review. I just bought the 70D and have been very happy with it, but several friends keep telling me about how great the 6D is. For me, the 70D fits in better with my needs of video and photos, and also into my budget. The focusing for video is amazing. You can get pull focus just by touching the screen.
I own the 6D. It's the king of lowlight from canon. I love it since I do most of my shooting in low light settings. I think the only thing you didn't mention was the sensitivity of the autofocus in the dark, which I don't think most people worry about but makes a difference. The 6D goes to -3 EV besting even the 5Dmark 3 at -2EV (center focus point ) and the 70D center focus point is rated at -.5EV. For those looking for lowlight performance the 6D is it :)
I enjoy your reviews! Keep them coming :)
+Moni Ker Thank you for mentioning this!
very true!
How is it compared to D610. In Canada I am looking for 6D vs D610?
I have a Canon 6D. There's a lot to both love, and also hate.
The construction is rather flimsy. But it's small and light weight. It has very few autofocus points.
The color is very pleasing and natural. It's inexpensive for a full frame camera. The L series lenses, which are supremely good, are also frightfully expensive. I got it mostly just because it's my first full frame camera.
But I also have a supreme quality Nikon DX format camera.
I love my 70D. Just love it. Also, thanks for all these wonderful videos you make. Just wanted to let you know we appreciate your opinion and your hard work.
Thanks Doc - I appreciate that comment!
I bought a 70D n am really happy that I went that way! Dual pixel cmos is fantastic and amazing iso performance, all my lenses are prime and of f1.4 and 2.8!
Awesome comparison Toby! I loved your 70D videos, they made me buy it... and i couldn't be happier! Here some considerations... I used both cameras, I bought a 70D in first place because of the slightly cheaper price and because i already had some ef-s glass so i didnt want to throw that away with a 6D, but actually got a 6D borrowed from a friend. I gotta admit that the 6D has a cool image quality, the full frame body is pretty good for landscapes, but if you want my opinion the best camera is the 70D. It is faster, i missed the screen soooooo much when using the 6D, it has probably the smartest autofocus i've ever seen. The AF issue on the 70D is not that deal for me, i actually made some tests but seriously, nothing to really care about for me. The low light performance of the 6D is ofc better, but the 70D has probably the best crop sensor, noise reduction is not top notch but you have some awesome raws you can process later. The lens factor is to consider as well. I'm an indie videomaker and i love to capture stills... as a consequence i needed that versatily of the body, and all the glass i needed for a cheap price. Consclusions:
70D: videomaking, walkaround, sports, wildlife and a better general purpose camera as well.
6D: landscape, stills only, prepared tripod shots and portraits.
Nice writeup!
:) a comparison i have never actually seen and that i'd love to see in a video is olympus OMD-EM1 vs 70D. i might get a mirrorless just to quickly snap some pics and it would be cool to compare so different cameras just to see where they differenciate :)
Thanks since I am considering a 70D. I really didn't consider the 6D but very happy you compared the two, You affirmed my decision. BTW - to those who say you are comparing apples and oranges, I would say yes, it isn't a straight comparison, but the difference between crop and full sensors isn't as obvious as the difference between an apple and an orange.
Great review! I just got my 6D today and i'm very excited to start using it. As you said i'm not really into fast shooting, sports etc. Im more into landscapes, portraits and image quality is very important to me, getting into the full frame field is something i was dreaming of long time ago. Thanks!
I was thinking of buying 5DM3 but I really really love the autofocus dual pixel on the 70D's I just can't make a final decision. If only 5DM3 has 70d's features. I'm not too sure how quiet the lens are for 5D's. Any tips?
Awesome review as always! One question. I'm currently using a Canon t5i, but recently I start shooting weddings and portraits so i'm thinking about upgrading it to a full frame camera like 6d. Would you recommend upgrading the camera or buy a nice lens such as 24-70,etc? I have a 50mm f1.4, and a 18-135 kit lens. Thank you!
Eric C I do like the idea of moving up to the 6D for you. In the lower light situations that you often encounter at weddings, receptions especially they full frame low light performance of the 6D will be very welcome. Continue to use your 50mm f/1.4 and pick up the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 (fantastic lens for the money)
Just purchased the Canon T5i and want to begin purchasing other lens for the camera. Your videos have really helped me understand the differences in the various lens and how to use them. Thanks for all your hard work in providing these helpful videos.
Hello and thank you for all your videos. As always to the point and very enjoyable. Do you have a "best budget lens guide for canon full frame" video?
I just ordered a 6D , moving from Sony a6000 I have only a canon 50f1.8 and an old canon 24-85 f3.5-4.5. I will have to slowly grow my Canon lens and would love to hear your suggestion. Thank you and keep those videos coming.
Thanks for this vid Toby! These are the two cameras I'm considering (the 6D and 70D)! I had an idea for a book, and a publisher agreed to publish. Now I need to shoot the pics (my old point & shot just doesn't cut it.) So I really don't need video, GPS, WIFI...just clarity and increased pixels for printing my photos in a book. The photos are going to be things to do on vacation - meaning pics of museums, water activities, inside of shops, street scenes, landscapes, etc. And cost is very much a consideration. So, would I be satisfied with the less expensive 70D? I'm concerned about the full frame when shooting a skyline pic for instance. Also, I've found an import 6D. Much less expensive. Should I consider this? Any comment would help! Thanks!
Great video. I own both 6D and 70D. The both have their uses and shine when used correctly. I think you hit on all the important parts within a suitable timeframe (just under 13 minutes). Earned a subscription from me!
I did the same: 70D and 6Dii
As usual, you made a very informative video that both me and my wife (ALSO MY ASSISTANT) understand. We have the 70D and are keeping it and buying the 6D for Weddings and low light events. Thanks again Toby!
I have both of these cameras, and find they are quite a nice combination (usage Pending) 6d for stills and static video work, and 70d for primarily video and a back up body.
This a very nice coincidence 😊 I just sold my xe 1 and was looking to buy a new camera, so I was in the canon store comparing these 2 cameras side by side and I came to a similar conclusion, but man did I fall in love with the full frame sensor smooth performance in high ISO .
I owe70D. I was considering 70D and 6D to buy some time. I bought 70D for focusing, filming, articulating screen and latest technology. The size of the frame DOES NOT matter comparing those two. Anyway, it is no point in upgrading to full frame in my case as 70D covers all my demands .
should i buy the 70d or the 5d classic with 17-40 USM L =?
I really appreciate the review. I've been kicking myself for jumping on the 70D for my first DSLR instead of going full frame but this comparison makes me feel like I'm in better shape than I thought I was. The articulating LCD is pretty nice.
Did you end up eventually going to full frame? I kept my 70D because I have a great selection of lenses, but recently bought a 6Dii and three EF lenses that I can still share with my 70D.
Thanks for this nice overview. I am completely satisfied with my 6D. Here in Germany the camera drops in price weekly, currently are prices from 1450-1500€ realistic. The only thing is the missing continuous autofocus during video mode.
Hey Toby, I'm looking to invest in one of these cameras. I'm a headshot photographer (both inside and outside of the studio), shoot concerts, editorial work, but I also shoot video occasionally. I have the t3i currently and I frequently use the articulating lens, though I'm drawn to the 6D for the image quality. Which do you think I should invest in? P.S. With either camera I'm looking to get either the 50mm 1.4 or the 40mm 2.8
I had a 6D for 2 yrs., sold it bought a 5D III, sold it went back to the 6D & recently purchased a 70D for the crop aspect to go along with my Tammy 150-600:) 5D was a nice camera, but the weight w/grip was too much for me & the pics were not any better than I got with the 6D! Sig 35 art, tam 24-70 vc & tam 70-200 vc:)
Great review. Thank you so much. I have the 70D. After watching this video I'm so glad that I invested in this model. I feel that it's a good all around camera for any situation.
HI...nice comparison...want to update my body..and want to buy lenses 100-400 II or Sigma 150-600 ..which body and lenses should i buy ...want to do birding, wild life and general photos
Great video! Which one of these two would you recommend for concert photography? Full frame and better details make me wanna go with 6D, but the focusing and the better performance with moving objects sound like a huge pro for 70D. Any thoughts?
I am looking at the 70d for birding photography because of the crop factor compared to the full frame 6d. I plan on running the 400mm 5.6 and the 1.4x extender. In your opinion would this be a good setup? Thanks.
I have the 70d and have been wanting to do more landscape so was considering a 24 or 28mm lens (as asked in another of your videos). But now I'm thinking of getting the 6d for the full frame. My main long lenses (70-200 L and 70-300 L) and my primes can be used on 6d but would need a 24-105 kit lens too.
Would that be a better option than investing in more lenses for my 70d?
great video, i am a wave photographer and i think the 70D would be great for me but the crop sensor kinda worries me that i'm not gonna get that whole wave shot. if i were to get the lens you were talking about do you think it would be close to a full frame? thank you so much -Jacob
GREAT VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECT, WHEN IT COMES TO VIDEO, THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF THE 70D IS BETTER? WHAT ABOUT THE 7D, 5D(SERIES) DO YOU HAVE VIDEOS OF THOSE, BASICALLY LOOKING TO PURCHASE A DSLR FOR VIDEO.
THANKS
You have watched the more recent video too 70D vs 6D and more it really depends on what kind of video you want to shoot - easy with continual autofocus? 70D is best. Best low light performance manually focusing? 5D Mark III 7D is ok but I see no reason to buy that over 70D.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY HELPFUL
Hey Toby, cool and factual comparison!
I got the 70D but i'm about to buy a 6D soon. Have you got any experience about workin with the Tokina 11-16mm or 11-20mm on a fullframe like the 6D?
Thanks for the great review! But i'm still not quite sure which camera to choose because initially i was thinking of the 6D because of its low light performance but i'm more into videos. Is the 70D's focus feature really worth it if i'm inclining more towards videos? I'm really concerned of the image quality under low light.
get the 70D for autofocus...it is incredible. I have a t3i( good camara for video also) but you have to have your hand on the focus ring everytime a person moves their head. with the 70D, it does everything for you.
Hi Toby,
Very informative review. Thanks !
I have a question for you.
My 70D has the central focus point issue.
I am looking for a nes lens. I want it as sharp as possible even though I got this issue and it is really a bugger for me. I am leaning toward the 40mm f/2.8 IS STV or 50mm f/1.4.
Having this issue, which one will give me the best sharpness all open?
Hi Toby,
I have a Canon G11 a point and shoot Camera.
And Now I am thinking of upgrading and buying my first DSLR.
I am a Hobbyist Photographer. I use the camera mostly while travelling or at any events. I mostly use it for Clicking Images and not much for videos.
I have shortlisted the following DSLRs Canon 70D /Nikon D7100/ /Sony A7/Olympus OMD EM1
My budget is around $1500-$1800(with Lens).
Kindly suggest me which one to buy.
Thanks!!!
I have to say the OMD Em1 is very tempting - lots of great quality in that small package. Sony a7 is also very nifty but you have to deal with the shifting sands of sony and a much smaller ecosystem. D7100 and 70D are very good but bigger and heavier with bigger lenses.
Hi there Toby! I got a question about 70D. Does it have all manual option in video mode? I am asking cause thats one of the thing I like with full frame ( I have a 6D). I can get my own balance between ISO, Shutterspeed adn aparteure. Now can I get that as well with 70D or is it all automatic? An important issue to mention when comparing video capability?
Your camera reviews are the best i've seen on youtube to date! Thanks bro! :)
Thanks Jay - I appreciate that!
Thank you for such a great review that answers an awful lot , certainly the best I have come across. Can you recommend the best lens for the 70D to catch up to the 6D in low light condition's. Thanks Craig
Hey there, awesome vdo and I thank you for solving some of the most basic but choice altering pros and cons of these both fantastic devices.
One question though, if on a crop censor I add a wide angle lens, does that come close to the full frame censor? Can you show in a diagram so I can understand?
I still have to buy one, and full frame or not, that is the question.
Thanks & Ciao!
stills in low light = 6D
video and general all round camera = 70D
that's all there really is to say..
great video as always toby ;)
Brian Ventura I do think you summed it up nicely :) Thanks!
Hey Toby! Great video man, I subscribed and I'm sure it will be worth it! I'm a college campus photographer (student) and I do a fair amount of video, though not as much as simply take pictures. Which one do YOU think I should get?
Cool video what do you think of using fd lenses on a eos body?
Hi Toby just watched your comparison between crop and full frame camera, now i have question regarding upgrade. I have a Canon 70d and i love this camera but somehow I realize I wanna upgrade my camera on a full frame sensor and i have a friend as me to trade his 5d mark2 into my canon 70d. Do you think is a wise idea to trade in? hope you could help me thanks a lot!!
I've owned both for several years. Use the 70d way more. Much more versatile. Love it. Thinking of selling my 6d.
thanks a lot toby, i respect what you did on here. please can you tell the difference between the video image made with a crop sensor and the one from full frame? when you watch tv for example. thanks
can u tell me what flash to buy for Canon 70D,im looking for nissin di600 its okay? or which ?
thank you
HI,
Thank you for the video, I have a question that I can not find an answer to.
If you shoot Full HD video with both cameras, is there any difference in video quality.
In speaking with a Canon rep, I thought he said 1920 x 1080 does not use the whole sensor on a full frame, or crop body , but closer to the crop sensor so video may be slightly better on a crop body due to capturing more data.
Did I mis-hear or misunderstand what he said.
Thank You,
Frank
I have the 70D and I think you are right, it is great all around-- and I really like it for videos. One of my family members has the 6D and does a lot of macro photography and I think it is fantastic for this.
Thanks, this is an excellent comparison. Currently (as of May 2015) there's a ~$400 price difference between the 6D and 70D. I don't think I'd miss the higher shutter speed of the 70D, but the articulating touch screen and better focusing system would be a loss. But my biggest concern is low light, and the 6D is very good (even compared with 5D MKII).
Thanks for the Review Toby! At the moment, I've been shooting landscape and portrait the most with my Canon t3i. After two years I think its time to upgrade. I was thinking the 6d since it does well with what I do. Do you think Its a good idea to upgrade now? Or wait it off until we see what other things canon plans to offer? Thanks!
DannySkateTV We probably will see a 6D replacement late this year might still be early 2016. Price/value of the 6D is quite good right now. What lens(es) do yo uhave for T3i?
Thanks for the reply! Right now I have the Canon 1.8 50mm, Canon 28-105 3.5-4.5 and rokinon 8mm fisheye. Was thinking of going to 6d, looks like an amazing camera and the price is right as of right now.
Hi I'm deciding between the Canon 6D and the 70D. I want to do a lot of landscapes so I'm going more towards the 6D. But am I going to have a really hard time with fast moving object like race cars and say water skiing?
Toby thanks for the review! I'm a food photographer and I occasionally do portraits for families (and kids). I don't want more camera than I really need and I'm upgrading from a Rebel T3. Would you go for the 6D or 70D? Thanks.
Rachel Ballard I'd go 70D and get a nice prime lens like the new 50mm STM photorec.tv/2015/05/canon-50mm-f1-8-stm-lens/
Thanks. I have the 50mm 1.4 now. One frustration I face is the crop factor. I find I have trouble getting far enough away for some shots and often have to stand on something (especially when doing a headshot) to get the framing right. My 50 acts like an 85 or a 90 and my 100mm macro, more like a 160mm on a full frame. I sort of hate that!
Rachel Ballard Ah yes - You do need room to use the longer primes on a crop factor. My partner Christina felt the same way and was SO happy when she moved to full frame. So maybe that would be better for you considering you already have those lenses. My only initial hesitation - the 6D focus can be a little slow for active kid portraits. Support my work- buy from
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Hi & thanks for the interesting & informative video, I have a Canon 650D as its known here in the UK and am thinking of upgrading to full frame be it on a limited budget. The lenses I have are, Canon zoom lens EF 70-200mm 1:4 L IS usm. Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8. Canon EF 50mm 1:!.8 11. Canon EF28mm 1 : 2.8. In your opinion would I be better going for a 6D price here just now £1032 new or a used 5DMk111 @ around £1500 depending on condition. Thanks again
+Peter Davidson Should add mainly used for studio & outdoor location model shoots.
+Peter Davidson I would probably spend a little more to get a 5DM3- The 6D is a very good camera but focus points are few and focus can be slower. If shooting outside anyone moving- family portraits with little kids? the 5D is going to provide better results, also has higher flash sync speed.
Thank you.
6d for portraits and weddings ....70d a great sports camera ..i have both ..and my 70 d is my back up camera for weddings
I want all the features of the 70d but with a full framed sensor!!!
same with me it sucks
Kai Maki the 6D mark II will be quite good
6d does not have enough focus points and only the center point is cross-type. The 70d has 19 all cross-type AF points and better autofocus in low light. I own both. If I could only have one it would be the 70d.
Donna A, do you have any L lenses on your 70D? I’d like to know only because I have the same exact camera and am considering buying a 24-70 2.8 and a 79-209 2.8. I would like to know your answer please please
i realize I am kind of off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream newly released tv shows online ?
I have just upgraded my lens for the T3i with a Sigma 17-55mm but I would like to know if I would get more quality on low light upgrading to 6D? not sure if I still upgrading my lenses or the body camera Thanks!
Great Video! I switched from a T4i to a 6D a few months ago. Every point Toby made is spot on IMO. I do mostly Landscape Photos along with Portraits. The 6D is outstanding in low light. My t4i was way faster in FPS and had the Cross Type Focus Points, but that hasn't hindered my Shots. I missed the Vari-Angle Screen of the T4i, and was hoping the Wi-Fi would be a bit more user friendly. As Toby mentioned, DSLR Controller is much better than EOS App. DSLR Controller is worth the $8.00 I paid for it. I bought a Cable because of connectivity issues of Wi-Fi. (Just a bit of a pain.)The Images with my Tamron SP 90mm Macro, and 24-105mm L, and "Nifty 50mm" are what I was hoping for in an upgrade to a Full Frame Sensor. I got my Camera for just under $1600.00 on Amazon (Body Only). It was not Gray Market.
Thanks Jim!
I had 8-16mm on my canon 7D but moving to Sony A7. What lens should i get if i want that wide? Is 14mm enough on fullframe ?
Toby - Just a comment: I'm leaning towards a 6D but heard that my Canon AF 70-200 mm lens will now not be as long as it used to with my cropped-sensor camera, it will be a true 70-200 mm. This feels like a loss to me as I do a lot of photography in stadiums or football fields where the zoom is essential. So still wondering whether to go with a 70D or a 6D. Question: How does the 7D (not 70D) compare to the 6D? Thanks in advance.
+danjama 87 Thank you for your response!
So basically, if you're into film making, go with the 70D? If you're into photo's go with the 6D?
JKPOrigins no the 6D is only good for showing pretty colours in a photo, if those pretty colours move at all you’ve missed the shot waiting for the 6D to find the focus according to video. Also if there is a focus issue with 6D you can’t adjust it as you can with the 70D in the settings. One stop is nothing in low light when you need to shoot at 15000 iso. 6D is pretty much useless over the 70D unless it’s your first camera to get pretty colours or you keep it on a tripod.
Thanks so much for your video, Toby! This cleared up a lot of my questions. I'm just getting started (I've had a T3i for a couple of years now) and was wonder what my next purchase would be. Keep up the great vids!
Thanks! Let me know if you have questions.
CameraRec Toby yes i have a question. iv had 3 70d's. not all with the same problem but i returned them all. researching which camera i want i keep coming back to the 70d.because there are things i love about the camera. but that hit and miss focus issue worries me. im not that rich. so can you tell me what the lates you have heard if any thing on the 70d focus issue. thanks David.
Great video!! Does the 70D has HSS? Thanks...
Hss is a flash feature, almost all external flashes offer Hss no internal or on board flashes do, that I know about.
PhotoRec Toby I have a Nikon D3200 and the YN-568Speedlight and I can´t shoot over 1/200. The Canon 70D will be my next camera and I think it can shoot over than 1/200 with a HSS speedlight...did you try? Thanks!
if i'm using a 50mm 1.8 STM lens with the Canon 6D full frame, does it still work like a full frame? or must i use a full frame lens? thank you
The 50mm f/1.8 STM lens is a full frame lens.
hi toby,,i'm trying to decide on the 70d or the 6d mostly for portraits,,is there a big difference in the image quality?,,i know the 6d has a full frame but if I use a quality lens for both is there really much difference in the image quality? And would the 70d have better video quality than my canon vixia hf r400 camcorder, portraits will be printed on the canon pixma pro-100.....Hope I can get some help here before I buy. Thanks.
If you get the 6d with 35mm 1.4 lens the pictures are stunning
+John Woods I have both cameras right now. I love the 70D. But I bought the 6D because I wanted to get better image quality. And I do not regret that decision at all. And even if the 70D is the best dslr for video, your camcorder will do just as good or better for video, except for the lack of controlling the dept of field(my guess).
+Sophie Banks thank you
+Svein Arne Grønnevik thanks
Another sound video Toby. I sense you wanted to give nod to the 70D. I understand the full frame set with the dollars invested are a bit loathe to fully appreciate the lessor sensor. Your balance on the subject is much appreciated.
Thanks Mike - -It is easy to appreciate the sensor of the 70D, it really performs well.
Nice comparison, you really did a good job on being objective and having a fair comparison between the two.
Hi Toby,
Great video as always and also very interesting video about the differences of crop censor and full frame censor.
Hello,
I've a question though.
I've been doing part time/freelance videography for my company for 2-3years and recently I thought maybe I can start my own freelance service to more customer instead of sticking all my project with my employer. Although I know how to take a video(Shoots and framing etc) but I am not very good with different type of camera. It means I do not know what are the differences between this camera and another camera and what this specific camera is better use for.
Some of my friends recommended me for canon 6D while some others recommended me canon 70D and fewer recommended my Oylmpus Mark ii due to it's 5 axis. In your video, 70D is recommended for videography but I heard from a store that video shot for 70D cannot be use for 6D. And also 6D has better low light iso. So i'm abit confuse here.
I am planning to get a camera which I can start out for my freelance Videography job such as events and product launch. Do you have any recommendations perhaps?
+Lim Jing Ri Answered on FB
Hi Toby, I have a question. Currently I owe the Canon t5i and have been taking plenty of portraits, mostly headshots and theatre shots. Because of the level of noise in the second category, I've been considering jumping into the Canon 6D, but I'm not 100% sure if it would be a good idea yet. Would you be able to give me any suggestions on this matter?
Hello!
Great job!
can you help me? My first camera is 5dmarkIII and I need a second camera.
I shoot videos in low light (wedding videographer) and I want my second camera to match with my first camera. What is your recomandation betwen 6d and 70d?
My second camera I will use it on tripode, slider, glide or minicrane.
Sorry about my bad english :)
I hope I didn't offend you Toby, I enjoy all of your videos, they are very informative.
Hi Toby, great video as always.
I've got the rebel t4i (650d) & plan to get a full frame camera. It's between the 6d and 5d mk3. I was surprised that the 5d doesn't have wifi & GPS like the 6d as it's more expensive. Maybe that's a feature that will be on the 5d mk4(?)
I'm soon to become a 2nd shooter in the near future.What are your thoughts on 6d vs 5d mk3
canon 5d miii is out in the market for such a long time where people doesn't care that much yet of wifi and GPS while the 70d and 6d are just new models from canon but both of them can't beat the image quality and versatility of 5d miii.....that's why many pros still prefer 5d miii and it is expensive because it's top of the line....
I agree with everything Junjun jr. Llauderes said except 6D image quality is on par with 5D Mark III and in some cases a little better with a newer sensor. I tell you having the little bit more speed from the 5D Mark III can be very nice during key moments of weddings. Also dual card slots. But if 6D allows you to spend on some good lenses it may be worth it to save. Happy to chat about this more.
9:20 - For all RUclipsrs interested in this for *video's*. Key "silent STM lens".
I've been researching the D70 for two months now... this review is *100%* on point.
Thanks MichaelN! One thing RUclipsrs who do talking head videos like me - you can get away with non-STM lenses because often you just get focus, switch to manual and start recording - no movement means no need for autofocus.
CameraRec Toby You could also 'get away' with using non-STM if you use off-camera audio.
I decided to just stick with the STM as a beginner it's the best rout for me. It didn't want to have to deal with trying to focus it would burn up my creativity before I hit record lol
Purchased D70 and the Rode Pro Mic (for my up coming 30th) and just give that a run for now.
MichaelNetwork Sounds good and you are off to a great start. Feel free to give me a shout if you have any questions.
Hello! Thanks for this brilliant summary. Can I throw you a slight curve ball...I would like to buy a camera that has the video capability of the 70d but not compromise on the image quality offered by the 6d's full-frame sensor. Can you possibly advise? Many thanks
+Nick Franks Nope - nothing offers that larger sensor and easy touchscreen and dual pixel except the Canon c100. that's 2,999 though - not cheap. Full frame is not all that. Some of the newer crop sensors are excellent.
+PhotoRec Thank you! So, for a relative beginner it's more advisable than, say, a Sony A7S system? Thought learning, I'm wanting to produce films and stills and for the system I buy to be an investment into the next 10 years. Appreciate your time...I'll be sure to share your channel. N
For video : 70D
For images: 6D
That's all...
simple lol
No te imaginas cuan buena es la 6D en vídeo, mucho mejor que en foto.
+merasanam 6D if you have the budget for those lenses...
+7mo Arte. Contar para Vivirlo. I think is the same.
+ Mi música Mi Vida No es el mismo 6D está lleno marco y cultivos 70D 's, JAMA será igual al tamaño del sensor.
I have had a 600d for a year and a half now and i;ve shot several short films and photographs with it. I was thinking of upgrading to the 70d, because of the autofocus, but i have heard that its sensor is almost the same as the 600d. I was thinking of a full frame, but all of my lenses are for cropped sensors, and they are quite a few. What would you suggest???
i also have a t3i...great camara for video. i also want to upgrade to 70D for the autofocus. the t3i sensor is a digi4...the 70D has a digi5...a little bit better...faster processing.
usachef100 digic4 or digic5 is not the sensor it is the processor...And the sensor on the 70D is totally different to the 600D only the APS-c size is the same.
Thanks for the video - very helpful. Q: Microphone input: I understand that there is a direct mike input on the 6D. How do you get a mike into the 70D so that you can record audio directly onto the internal memory card without having to sync later?
Thanks!
Hi Toby, The GPS on the 6D can be turned off to save some battery? I heard the GPS is still working even when the camera is off.
+Jané E. you can fullly turn that off
Which one should i buy? Canon 80D, 6D or Sony a6300? I want it mostly for video production. Is 4k really worth it? Can someone point out why would a Canon (80D or 6D) be better than a Sony a6300?. Thanks a lot :)
Great review on these two. Thought I'd take you up on your offer at the end, I'm in need of some advice! Looking for a camera for around the £700-800 mark and I've quickly come to the conclusion that (being used to canon cameras already) the 5D mkii, 6D and 70D are my best options. This is where I've gotten stuck - I've heard that the 5D mkii has the best image quality potential (narrowly), but the 6D has some great updated features which I appreciate, although I haven't found a final conclusion on which focusing system is better in general, as reviews seem to only discuss the better low-light focusing of the 6D. The 70D has so many great features it's hard to not consider, even though I'd prefer a full frame, and the lower price really makes it a worthwhile comparison. I'll be doing product photography, some portraits and some filming too at work, but would like it to be good for hobby use too (landscapes etc). One of my main questions right now is whether lenses would be interchangeable between full frame canons and cropped. I wouldn't want to end up buying a 70D, spending money on some nice lenses only to have to sell them if i ever upgrade to a full frame. And if buying full frame compatible lenses would lower the image quality on a 70D, then that's just not worth it. I've heard mixed things on this, some saying they lower quality and others saying that the EF range is designed to work on both? Thanks in advance for any advice.
+Harry Saleh EF-S is for crop sensors only, EF is compatible with both. I find your comments interesting as I'm also looking at those three cameras myself. I currently have a 5D mk1 but I want better low light performance and video mode.
+Simon Winn-Smith I went with a 6D in the end, I have a 50mm prime f1.8 on it at the moment and low-light performance is unbelievable! I haven't used the video mode much, which makes me feel sure that I made the right decision, but from what I have tried with it, it seems perfectly good. I can fully appreciate full frame now and would not look at crop if I was to make the decision again, but then I need pro-quality photos from my camera for work and video would be mostly hobby use.. If you'll end up with a FF eventually then you'll probably only get EF lenses and not save any money with a 70d there. I found 6d and 7d mk2 bodies new on eBay for around £800 each: I weighed up FF, low light and image quality vs video & sports and went from there! AF system seems completely fine to me too, but then they'd all have been a big step up for me anyway. :)
+Harry Saleh Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm probably similar to you in needs, except it's purely hobby use. I like shooting in available light handheld and I also have (and love) a 50mm F1.8. I could well be going for that 6D!
HI Tody,
Thanks for your review. The video is very Good and Helpful. Can you tell me which of the below is a better option-
Option 1: Canon 70D with Canon L Series lens.
Option 2: Canon 7D Mark ii with Canon EF lens.
Which one gives me a better photo?
Neither.... i would recommend the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8. The 70D is better than the 7D but the glass will not make such a big difference. L glass would make a difference of a full frame sensor. Between your two options there will be very little difference. L glass on crop sensor is a waste of money. The Sigma 18-35 is tack sharp and perfect for a crop sensor.
merasanam I disagree with your comment that L glass would not make much difference on a crop sensor. I use myself and quality lens shines through to final images. But I do agree that on full frame the L series lenses have greatest effect.
discuss21 You disagree but then you also agree.... L glass will not make a BIG difference on a crop sensor. It will be better but in any case not the same as on a full frame sensor. In fact it will make very little difference compared to the price paid for L glass (x times the cost of the body). You are better off with decent crop sensor lens (price vs results).
merasanam You seem determined to disagree and spread misinformation like a troll. I am curious about your motives. I sense you are biased. Do you in fact own or have any direct experience of Canon L series lenses? Methinks not. I have run witnessed tests using various lenses on full frame and cropped sensor cameras. I discovered L series lenses deliver high quality images on both cropped and full framed cameras. The price of L glass is an issue for most people including me. Why do you say it makes very little difference and one is better off with a crop sensor lens? Better off how? Only if one is prepared to completely sacrifice image quality to save some money.
Note: There are quite a few web reports of poor quality images and serious autofocusing issues with the Sigma 18-35 mm f1.8 lens you mentioned earlier as being tack sharp. Your mileage obviously differs ...
18-35mm has focus issues when used with the viewfinder. I am aware of that. In video mode it has perfect focus since it has continuous feedback.
For the rest, just search for the video called "Should you use Full Frame Lenses on Crop Bodies? Yes and No..." by Tony Northrup and you'll see everything real numbers measured scientifically and not by "I've read somewhere".
And you should choose your information carefully if you are willing to accept an advice. For the rest i don't give a damn what other think.
Thanks Toby. This video lead to the selection of my 70d. 70d trumps the 60d, aside from ISO (1 stop noisier and shallower DOF). Im glad that 70d has more range of lens and cheaper too.
i had a canon 550d with a 18-55 and 50mm 1.8 lens. I had used it almost for 5 years. unfortunately my house got burgled and those guys took away my entire camera bag. Now i am researching to upgrade and am seriously considering a full frame canon. I have shortlisted canon 6D with 24-70 f4 lens. 5d mark 3 is out of my budget. I found a lot of constraints in the last 1 year or so with my 550D with respect to field of view maybe the lens could have been upgraded. do you think this will help me with landscape as well as portrait photography than investing in 70D plus a lens other thank kit lens. i also in the long term will invest in a prime L lens. For sure will insure all my camera equipment this time.
I originally purchased the 70D based on your review some time ago. I recently purchased the 6D and I'm trying to get used to not having a touch screen and the seemingly slower tracking system. Anyhow, I was wondering would it be possible for you to maybe make another video addressing some of the 6D's shortcomings and workarounds for them? (E.g. low flash sync speed, focus points, etc). I've already purchased an ND filter to counter the shutter limitations. Any help or suggestions would be a great to help us new 6D owners get acclimated to shooting with it. Thanks for reading.
Thanks for this - This was a tough call but Full Frame sold it for me so have a 6D. 70D was close as I do video work too - might pick up a refurbished 70D down the line but the video mode in 6D is very good.
Hey Toby, been watching all your videos for a while now and was wondering if I could ask for some help because i'm just a beginner. I'm going on vacation here shortly to cabo and purchased a Nikon D3300 for it. Here is a link to the place that I am going to and basically I want to take photos similar to this.
Capella Pedregal- Deluxe Ocean view king- European plan Oct 25 2013.
Would you PLEASE recommend a Nikon lense for me to buy under $400 that will give me the best shots and clarity. I would appreciate it sooo much!
I do want to go full frame I'd go for the 5D if it wasn't such a huge price jump from the 6D. What do you expect from the forthcoming 6DM2?
Nice comparison. I own a 6D and love it for landscape work, but I might buy a 70D to cover portrait and wildlife photography. Love the 19 point AF on the 70D and the crop is great for extra reach on the lenses.
Good points though I would keep using the 6D for portraits- unless faster moving wiggle squiggle kids!
Give me the 6D sensor in the 70D and I am sold 😁
I 100% agree!
I love your content. out of most your the easiest to follow and super full of imfo. thanks for the hard work.
Is The 70D worth For an EF lens like 24-105mm USM and how will these combo workout???
Or should i just go for Affordable STM lenses?
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which is better for weddings?
I have both bodies. I find that it is a good combination. I use the 70D because of its frame rate and auto focus for sports and video. I use the 6D for its resolution, noise handling and frame size for landscapes and macro.
+Neil Hamilton Photography That is a great combination!
+Neil Hamilton Photography I did exactly the same. But since I also have a mobile phone, tablet, compact camera and a video camera with 1080P/HD, I don't use my 70D much anymore. I tend to use the 6D for photo and the smaller devices that I have anyway as a video recorder. I travel a lot and save some weight and space that way. But it will be hard to say goodbye to my 70D, because I love everything about that camera, except the image quality. That was the only reason I bought the 6D.
I have a 70D and love it. It performs like a champ at air shows but now I'm thinking of adding a 6D to get the full frame benefits but I will be keeping the 70D for the faster stuff. I think It would be a great combo especially since they use the same memory cards and batteries.
Hi everyone what do you advise me to take?
( canon 70d with 24-105m ) or ( canon 70d with 18-135 and 50mm 1.4 ) ?
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
I though the 70D was suppose to perform better at low light with much smother high ISO. I like taking music pictures or night events and this was the main reason why I was going to get one. Now im thinking of getting a 6D after all the reviews.
Any comments ?
70D does perform better than most other crop sensor cameras but still can't compete with the much bigger full frame sensor. If lower light is where you will mostly be taking photos 6D would be better but for low light music/concerts with more active performers you may be frustrated with the slower focus of the 6D. What you have for lenses? maybe 70D with a nice fast lens is a good compromise.
Hey Sly5862 I have the 6D and can tell you it's a great performance in low light conditions. Especially if combined with a fast piece of glass such as the 50 mm 1.4. You can almost shoot in the dark at high ISO, it's quite impressive. But like Toby said, if you need to shoot fast moving objects and action, perhaps the 70D offers a better focusing system. Having said that I never had any problems because 99% of the times I only use the center focus point on my 6d which is a cross type, and as fast as most people need.
Which lenses are you using on them ? I mean, in that video, both are similar. Thank you!
As always very informative and enlightning, thanks Toby. Any news about the 70D's center-focuspoint problem?
I sent my in t Canon repair center- haven't heard yet. . . Will update soon I hope.
The 1/180 sync limit is because it's full frame or so I was told by a Canon rep... Don't know what's up with the shutter speed limit of 1/4000 though. But as a Fashion/glam shooter the 6D quality is what I need since I'm not shooting sports and such.
Nice review,,,,,which camera is good for a Wedding considering you would shoot 50% photos and 50% videos ?
70D provides that amazing video autofocus and 6D provides better low light quality. If you are ok shooting video manual focus 6D. If you really want the easy focus of the 70D- go with the. . 70D :)
CameraRec Toby
Thanks. I love to buy the 70D but with all this focus problems, i think i'll save up my money for the 6D...
Great videos on the Canon 70D. Thank you. I'm subscribed.
This really helped me make a decision on which one i want to purchase this year. THANKS!
Hi jahgambo Media so which one are you buying?
Sorry for the late response the 70d it's much better for the price. But now that canon has released the 7dmark 2 I might get that instead