Batteries Not Included: The Challenges of a Low-Carbon Future

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • Wind power. Solar power. Electric cars. That’s the future envisioned by many advocates of getting the U.S. to net zero carbon emissions. Translating this vision into a reality depends heavily on battery technology. But are the batteries up to it?
    To get to net zero carbon emissions, we’d need batteries. A lot of them.
    Wind and solar are intermittent sources of energy, meaning they only give you power when the weather’s cooperating. So, if we want to use them to power our economy, we have to figure out what to do when they’re not producing energy.
    The most popular idea is to use batteries to store the excess energy generated by wind and solar when the weather’s cooperating. But while that seems straightforward, it’s actually incredibly complicated.
    One problem is supply. China makes 76% of the world’s lithium-ion batteries (and controls much of the mineral refining necessary for battery production).
    Another problem is cost. As the use of renewable energy expands, the use of batteries actually drives energy prices higher. Finally, there’s the issue of resources. Research suggests that the amount of minerals required to transition to a carbon-free economy may be more than the proven reserves on Earth.
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  • @KiteandKeyMedia
    @KiteandKeyMedia  Год назад +6

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  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад +7

    Great communication.

  • @Robert-l3c
    @Robert-l3c 6 месяцев назад +2

    Carbon is the building block of LIFE!!!!
    WITHOUT IT WE DIE

  • @davidhess6593
    @davidhess6593 Год назад +3

    Batteries aren't the only way to store electric energy. There are also capacitors, and thermal, gravimetric or chemical storage devices. Try thinking outside of the box!

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 Год назад +9

    "No Idea How To Do It."
    I can see how that might be a bit of a bump in the road.
    How about if we really Really REALLY want it? would that help?

    • @solutionrebellion
      @solutionrebellion Год назад +7

      The main issues are the laws of physics and the limitation of resources.
      You cannot cheat the laws of thermodynamics, you cannot move faster than light even if you Really REALLY want it.
      You cannot make significantly better batteries. For car batteries it have to be small and light. Look at the periodic table and you will see, why we use Lithium.
      For grid storage there are other options (as size and weight does not matter that much).
      The second major issue is the amount of raw materials needs to be mined and refined for 100% renewable and batteries.
      The more mining, the more diesel we need, the more solar panels, the more coking coal (for polysilicon production) is needed.
      Also the life cycle of solar and wind and batteries are very short (20-30 years) so we not only need to add more and more new solar, wind and batteries, but continuously replace the old ones.
      We can recycle the copper, iron from the wind turbines, but not the blades, neither the solar panels or most of the lithium batteries. (entropy is a b*)
      Last but not least, solar and wind has a low EROI (energy return on investment). If you want to replace the fossil fuels used for mining, transportation and other industrial processes by using synfuels from CO2 captured from air, they cannot power that process.
      The future has to be nuclear. Lowest raw material needed, lowest land area needed, can run for 60-80 or even longer with proper maintenance/refurbishments, very high capacity factor/reliability and they provide the highest level of EROI (75-100) so you can use it for synfuel (Jet fuel, diesel). Future generation plants can even add an extra 0 to the end.
      Fossil gas is a good bridging technology to REPLACE coal. Solar and wind are good only to REDUCE gas usage.
      Really REALLY wanting is just wishful thinking.
      Build hydro if it is possible in your country.
      Build geothermal if it is possible in your country.
      If not, build nuclear.

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 Год назад +4

      @@solutionrebellion
      Good Morning. I think I've found The Flaw in your thinking! You neglected to factor in The awesome power of Pixie Dust! :-)

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 Год назад

      @@solutionrebellion
      Let me put my tn foil hat on (cause This is gonna sound really crazy). When look at people/organization/groups promoting Sustainable Energy/CRT/Etc Etc Etc, pretty much everything coming from The Left, I see the same people/organization/groups. BLM pushing environmental activism, Audubon Society pushing transgender right, and on and on. What if (and here is where we're off into conspiracy land) what they Say they want is not the real goal? What if the real goal is chaos and bring down liberal western society, and replacing it with something "Better" (Marxism 2,0)? It sounds crazy (and well IT IS) but this is what I see.
      (As Always I..Could..Be..Wrong)

    • @kyleb3754
      @kyleb3754 Год назад +1

      No, it won't.

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 Год назад +1

      @@kyleb3754
      Why do you say it won't?

  • @Undermineded-333
    @Undermineded-333 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ain't nothing more simple than the middle finger its self explanatory

  • @jayairBofR
    @jayairBofR Год назад +3

    Until a battery powered truck can pull 20k i will stay with what already works.

  • @brettbaker5599
    @brettbaker5599 Год назад +8

    You forgot that peasants don't need cars.

  • @opgaming-dz3xx
    @opgaming-dz3xx Год назад

    Yes the last one is right behind the last one

  • @ricardoantunez9413
    @ricardoantunez9413 Год назад +1

    And this Ladies and Gentlemen.. this is where Mexico 🇲🇽 comes in.

  • @orhanmekic9292
    @orhanmekic9292 Год назад +4

    Battery technology improvements are exponential. Solar and vind have been dropping in price exponentially in last decades. Exponential things always win in the long run. This transition has nothing to do with environment..

  • @MichealWeinfurtner
    @MichealWeinfurtner Год назад +4

    Wow, that was so well done.

  • @alexshenderov4975
    @alexshenderov4975 Год назад +3

    Of course, another solution to solar's intermittency problem is GLOBAL GRID instead of local storage. After all, half the globe is illuminated at any given time. No unobtainiums required. It's dirt cheap compared to lithium storage, tested and reliable, and puts a lot less stress on the environment. All we need to do is trade energy the way we already trade pretty much everything else: globally.

  • @steelisthemeal
    @steelisthemeal Год назад +4

    Nothing is better than oil ….
    It’s top energy
    I see a future in carbon capture technology that’s an ultimate win

    • @Mat-zf9bf
      @Mat-zf9bf Год назад +1

      I disagree, nuclear power and the prospective nuclear fission we've seen progress in recently is excellent.
      Otherwise, I agree.
      Wind, solar, and electric vehicles are terrible.
      The best prospective renewable energy method I've seen are algae farms.

    • @AtZero138
      @AtZero138 6 месяцев назад

      The myth of fossil is ridiculous...
      Beyond 16,000 ft, no living matter is found, Oil is a Mineral...
      Not long ago, before you know who...
      We the U.S became the largest exporter of Oil and Natural gas to the World..
      Drive what you want I don't care, forcing us to won't work...
      Look up all the manufacturers who have backed off the All EV push.. lack of sales.. Hybrid is also fine, my work has them, never thought I would like a Prius, but I don't hate it...
      Cheers from Southern California..
      Daily Driver 68 Dodge Dart...

  • @melissapatrone9155
    @melissapatrone9155 8 месяцев назад +1

    And electric cars don't work when it freezes outside

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад +9

    @4m we see the usual *annual* average uptime or ‘capacity factor’ of wind and solar, ie wind is up about a 1/3 or the time and so on. The problem is much harder than that. The 1/4 uptime for solar for instance will fall to 1/10 in for a couple winter months, maybe 1/20 at latitudes above 50degN as in Germany. Wind has its idle wind months, in the most N America late summer, early Fall will often show windless weeks. So, when we start looking at storage to get trough seasonal luirla, the problem really is not just difficult bu impossible if one puts any kind of upper limit on how many mountain sized battery storage resources are required, all replaced every dozen years or so.

  • @fefifofob
    @fefifofob Год назад +1

    Well, work it out someday
    If I could see something
    You can see anything you want, boy
    If I could be someone
    You can be anyone, celebrate, boy
    Well, if I could do something
    You can do something...

  • @jfungsf882
    @jfungsf882 Год назад

    In addition, we need better public transit & cycling infrastructure 👍💯 #orangepilled

  • @kennywall3088
    @kennywall3088 Год назад

    Significant energy consumption reduction a must.

  • @lightdark00
    @lightdark00 Год назад +20

    What carbon problem? Plants are doing their best with the tiny uptick in CO2 levels.

    • @kyleb3754
      @kyleb3754 Год назад +7

      I've heard botanists who weren't talking about climate change at all they were just botanists and they talk about when there's more CO2 available for plants they use more they just use it less efficiently... kind of like humans and food if food is scarce we'll eat all the leftovers but if there's plentiful then we'll waste a lot of food, same thing... so it doesn't matter how much is in the sky the plants will use it all

    • @calisingh7978
      @calisingh7978 Год назад

      Anti-political Science!! Cancel them!!

    • @mobilityproject3485
      @mobilityproject3485 Год назад +1

      Stop being postmodern

    • @Hiboyboy123
      @Hiboyboy123 10 месяцев назад

      It's not tiny, believe me. Plants can't even come close to the balancing. The ocean is supposed to have much more carbon than anything else. The air is the one, which is very dangerous and problematic.

    • @AtZero138
      @AtZero138 6 месяцев назад

      Always found it interesting,, this Warming.. changed to change.. haha..
      Carbon blah,,
      Power from Nuclear Plants are 0 carbon... But foreign kids cry at them.. so I guess there bad, hahaha...
      When our Governor asked EV owners to Not charge their Car's.. due to heatwave.. hahaha...it's a dream..

  • @ggus47
    @ggus47 Год назад

    is the sun made out of or does it hold any type of relation to fire?

  • @XaviHaunts
    @XaviHaunts 7 месяцев назад +1

    POV: you misclicked

  • @ronalddesiderio7625
    @ronalddesiderio7625 Год назад +2

    That’s funny 😂as f!

  • @Bgrosz1
    @Bgrosz1 Год назад +12

    Excellent video.
    Your channel deserves more views. Guessing it's being shadowbanned for telling inconvenient truths such as this one.

    • @kyleb3754
      @kyleb3754 Год назад +5

      A billion electric cars aren't going to save anything

  • @danielread1942
    @danielread1942 7 месяцев назад +3

    THIS IS SOME MAJOR BS PROPAGANDA. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.

  • @toxicculture4682
    @toxicculture4682 6 месяцев назад +1

    you mean the same carbom thats plant food? what a scam

  • @flashgordon6752
    @flashgordon6752 Год назад +5

    More noise from a non profit supported by oligarchs!

  • @jemase7931
    @jemase7931 Год назад +2

    Well one thing we would have to give up are all those individual cars. It will have to be buses.

    • @vancemyers6655
      @vancemyers6655 Год назад

      WELL SONNY, USE YOUR THUMB AND PAY FOR FILLING MY TANK

  • @danielgeorgezlateff2036
    @danielgeorgezlateff2036 Год назад +3

    I burn everything in my path
    The remains are irrelevant

  • @douglasnewcomer4831
    @douglasnewcomer4831 8 месяцев назад +1

    What crap!!!!

  • @timdixon372
    @timdixon372 Год назад

    Well at one time people thought we would go to the moon, but we did.

  • @vancemyers6655
    @vancemyers6655 Год назад

    CHANGE THE NAME OF SACRAMENTO TO EXCREMENTO

  • @HughJanus619
    @HughJanus619 Год назад

    Killing birds super nice

  • @louisbuzzi869
    @louisbuzzi869 Год назад +2

    We are under the firmament on four pillars, the immovable earth is biblical. I don't think earth is a globe.

  • @love2rideone2
    @love2rideone2 Год назад +2

    Oh yes batteries and when they go bad they go out with a bang,look at electric bike cars and buses on fire, they go out with a bang and all that carbon that you though you didnt create is release in a second and in the proccess it burns the vehicle too.