United Don’t Deserve This Support! Man United 1-1 Burnley Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- United blew it vs Burnley
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The booing of Hojlund and Mainoo going off wasn’t for them, it was for the decision to take them off, it was a boo for ten hag not for the players :(
I think that’s what he actually meant tbf, I don’t think Ste thought people were legit booing the players
i mean, we went 1-0 up afterwards so the manager got it correct.
@@ddha0000 gosh do you really think that’s sole reason why? Btw I’m not even ETH out to not give him credit for subs
I think he might have to go now ste don't wanna have to say it but he's loosing it now
@@ddha0000exactly, individual errors have cost us again, but the changes worked
Hojlund received more passes (4) from Onana than any other player.
@@dj_cakes I disagree, he’s actually got a decent conversion rate. Also remember his finishing is going to be rusty seeing as he never gets any chances
And failed to control every single one because he can't win an aerial or hold up play at all. Embarrassing footballer that cost 72m.
@@NightsuHe’s a kid learning his trade. The only thing embarrassing is your attitude towards a young talented kid.. He’s usually pretty good on the ball but today he wasn’t the best. Sort your head out.
@@carlrigby9231 He's not talented at all hahaha 😂Have some standards, it's pathetic that you think he's "learning his trade". He's a 70m striker that is unable to control a ball. He's not usually "pretty good" on the ball, hes been horrendous for weeks and even when he was scoring it was one scruffy moment and the rest has been awful.
Again have some standards, the excuses you make for a player being paid close to 100k a week (as you people love to say about Rashford) is embarrassing.
i feel for hujlund
Personally, im fed up with the constant merry-go-round of sacking a manager, having a good year, and the following season, it all falls apart. I'd rather sell 10 players.
you think madrid and bayern fans feel the same? the managers were sacked because they simply weren’t good enough. Moyes was never going to work out, Lvg and jose were pretty much past it by the time we finally got them, ole was a risk that unfortunately didn’t work out and now we’re witnessing whatever this is. giving this manager another year and £400m won’t suddenly turn him into fergie, but i do agree when ten hag goes many of these players need to go with him
How many senior players do you think have left since 2022?
Yeah let’s sell 10 players only to play the same dreadful tactics we have all season.
We sold 12 in Ole's first summer.
In this case I think we need to get rid of both
Man united wingers imagination and football intelligence is on the same level as that of 10 years old.
It’s because they don’t know how to recruit. How else do you expect an 18yr old to be playing he’s so raw and still only need 10 mins max from the bench. But Antony too is….Lawd!
@@benedictdesmond806and yet people here want that 19 year old to be our starting winger 🤦. He’s not ready yet it’s quite clear. We need to get things right with Rashford or find a suitable replacement because I have zero confidence heading into next season if Garnacho is our starting winger.
@@benedictdesmond806 truth.
I agree garnacho is not ready too much poor decision making and rashford cant play a possession based style at all. Antony does okay to retain possession but lacks creativity and a cross with his right foot. Hes too predictable when he cuts in as well.
Dominate the ball With 47% 😂😂😂😂
That's Possession, stats can mislead you if you didn't watch the game.
Deluded fans 😂😂😂
Stats are a bit misleading today regarding possession
@@VivoZzz I watched it. We didn't dominate anything apart from shots. It was pretty even play but Burnley had better the chances and looked more dangerous going forward.
@@mundolioknows6447 they didn't have the better chances
City are going to smack us playing in first gear. The players have checked out mentally and ETH is absolutely lost. Let's just end this season.
Finals never work like that. Will be a close game
That’s the spirit…..
Sounds like the end of most seasons these days... Just get it over with.
@@GarethReecewood No it won't. They will be embarrassed. They will be humiliated and we won't see Ten Hag again after that match
This was said before we played Liverpool.
The minute your manager comes out and starts saying well be okay without injury, he's a gonner. Giving players excuses. He's played the exact same with regardless of personnel since August, nothing to do with injuries. He should've gone after Bournemouth, they rocked up at old Trafford and took the piss, so we play them away a few months later and we play the exact same structure and expect what? He's down there with moyes for me eth not a clue what he's doing
Unreal summary,talks about Onanas mistake and then praises Cass,who’s fuck up created the panic for the pen!!!,😂
I assume being at the match, maybe he didn't see who headed it. Occasionally that happens especially when the action is at the opposite end of the pitch..
Relegation team had more possession than us in Old Trafford , we’re fucking shocking
Facts m8
Possession is meaningless. What matters is where you have it and what you do with it. If a team is allowed possession in its own half and gets to tap the ball around there the possession stats will soon provide a distorted view of what really happened.
Casemiro's header caused the penalty situation.
So true! I don't how such an experienced player could do something so stupid in a winning position 2 minutes before time. Casemiro is finished at the top level!
at this moment, I don't know who's he playing for. A real double agent.
bollocks, it contributed, ONONO gave the penalty away
@@BelfastManUtdTherapyOnono? You clearly watched the game and saw Casemiro's error. No need to put a brother down over nothing.
casimero was shit all game but onana didnt need to come for that header wan-bissaka had it under control ,onana rushed out emptied the player out and cost us points yet again
Individual mistakes constantly costing us massively in games each week
yea but managerial in-game mistakes are costing us even more
@@BelfastManUtdTherapy it would still be a players mistake
@@BelfastManUtdTherapy name 5 games where a managerial mistake has cost us and I’ll name 5 individual games that have cost us
@@bonarmilne537exactly, people just looking to blame the manager but we've been here before
Our issues are far bigger than individual errors
I do blame ETH! He doesn’t have his first 11 but he does have 26-30 players training with him, yet in 2 years no 2 players can string 3-4 passes together! Why Mount isn’t playing?
Mount keeps getting injured, he's only just come back from another injury, that he picked up in training. How the hell can he be ready to start?
We have a squad for a reason, every single player who takes part in training should know what’s expected from them and as for injuries, what is ten hag doing in training? I knew his training routines was intense, but whatever hes doing is not helping the players stay fit and injury free.
I keep thinking the same thing. yeah our injuries have been devastating this year but we still line up a better player at every position than Burnley did today. And against Coventry City, and Copenhagen, and Bournemouth (except Solanke) and Fulham, etc yet we cannot consistently beat them
Some fans saying we were robbed with the penalty, its small club mentality to claim we lost it because of the referee. Some fans are deluded. We were exactly the same as every game. Long diagonal passes over midfield. No midfield were hurt in the making of ten hags gameplan. Everyone missing easy chances. We couldnt put 3 passes together. Ingame management was SHOCKING, keeps eriksen on longer than mainoo. Get rid of that manager.
Can we look into why nobody wants to pass to Højlund?
Simple. The wingers want to be the hero. As the goal drought goes on, the greed will grow. Garnacho is out of form and he’s not passing, same with Rashford and Antony. They all want to be the hero.
I feel so sorry for Højlund
A classic target man who drops deeper and holds up the ball type of a player and yet, doesn't get the ball, not even in the air. His ability and what's he best at and team style of play doesn't match.
He clearly isn't supposed to receive the ball in most phases of our build up play and if you clocked how poor his hold up play was when he landed in Manchester than it would be understandable as to why he isn't being used more during our build up. We build up through combinations between our fullbacks and wingers anyways, that's why Mainoo doesn't get enough of the ball either. Hojlund needs to improve massively off the ball in general in attacking situations, it's almost infuriating how poor his awareness is in certain attacking situations.. the complete opposite of what we had last season in Weghorst who was world class off the ball and the players around him benefited for it.
Always rated Weghorst. Didn't score but created chaos in opposition half, allowing others to score
"I still think Ten Hag can fix this" . No he can't and he won't. He will be deservedly sacked after being humiliated by City at Wembley.
Exactly! Ten Hag may be a good coach but it's clear he isn't a man united coach. With the amount of scrutiny and attention he.gets his communication skills and charisma doesn't not fit . So why are we trying to keep him in a job . It's okay if he is not the man . We won't have the next Fergie or Busby it's the modern game we won't have a long term manager smh.Ten Hag needs to be replaced. He cannot handle the quality of premier league too many coaches in the league are better than him .
@@daltonpolius5238 Are these the managers that he beat last year, or the ones he beat this year, the greatest ever manager from germany got humbled by him, the only one he hasn't got one over on is corruption FC
I am fed up of this recency bias with ETH everyone very quickly forgetting the season last year, what ETH is suffering from is being fucked over by our social media fan boys, had last year and this year been reversed not a single comment about he isn't the right man, but the ones that have wanted him out since before xmas will NOT give a single credit to him and thats far more a pisser than the fact he may or maynot go
When i ask people ok you want him gone, who are we getting, and do you give him 1 season as well like we have given ETH - we are not giving him 2 seasons, because that means you are forgetting of the good of last year, do you insist that EVERY MANAGER of United wins trophies every year, and what happens if we DO win the FA Cup (yes its small chance, but no-one gave us hope 3 times against liverpool, and look what happened)
I think he deserves one more season. He had one good season and one poor season. Id give him another season to improve and with some more investment under proper footballing structure. But he defo needs to improve his in game tactics. No clear patterms of play which is worrying.
Aside from that, not great managerial alternatives in the market which is guaranteed improvement. All of them have a risk of getting binned in two years also.
@@markf4258 Ive said right from the start of this clusterfuck period, he has 3year contract let him prove next season with a proper close season support, if we 'sack' him we have to pay for him next season, why waste the money when we already have PP issues.
I have never denied he hasn't made mistakes, but when i view this last month the amount of individual mistakes is killijng him, look at today, how can he be held responsible for Casmiro doing that today, or the 2 bad decisions against him the other week with the penalty etc.
THen we also have to questions the players more, im getting tired of our wingers not realising we have a number 9 - could he be put to blame maybe if he telling Garnacho to constantly run into players and shoot and dont look to pass... but yes give him 1 more year, then if by nov/dec next season it will be apparent if he should get extension or not
If we are putting DOF in place etc, then the manager becomes less important for future planning we have enough changes required to not have to worry about finding another manager to start ove ragain
@@StretfordEndGaz I think for ETH to keep his job he needs to address 5 things.
1 - Style of play
2 - System that allows our wingers to feed Hojlund
3 - Stop conceding cut back goals
4 - Midfield gaps
5 - Injuries - because it's gotten to the point that either the training or rehab is going wrong. It's not a freak coincidence.
I just hope he can sort it out. Write this season off and just start prepping for next season. If he can fix them issues, we should be challenging with a few more replacement players
Wasn’t a pen sure but why was wan bissaka’s given last week?🤦🏾♂️
Because he had his arms close to his body well before the shot was taken while AWB didn't.
I think neither should be a pen btw, but that's probably the reason.
@@lucasvanwijngaarden670 the one that hit wan Bissaka was his arm behind him by his side from running back - inches from missing his arse - you need to go to specsavers
Both were not pens to be honest..
It's because it's subjective and the refs are shite
It was a subjective decision given on the pitch. VAR shouldn't be turning either over and refs will never be consistent.
Rasmus, has potential and can finish, but he is no where near the level of striker we need to lead the line at the moment, there should be a more senior striker for him to learn from.
He has good energy and determination but he is still learning the game. He stands too often in a crowd of defenders, his hold up play is not bad but it often ends up with him on the floor and he isn't getting into positions where he can have a shot. Its not his fault that we have greedy wide forwards that always want to score themselves first and its not his fault that he is the only available striker in the club, but he needs help. United need to bring in a more experienced striker IMO
We are BANG average, in every department, unfortunately.
We're worse than bang average we're pathetic and we're one of the worse premier team to watch.
Mate totally agree Mainoo is absolutely awful getting away with murder
Why is anyone surprised? I'm getting sick of the constant negativity. We all know the players are not good enough and then expect the manager to work miracles! Seriously!!!! I despair!
Stop it if your seriously saying that our squad wasn’t better than Burnley’s your delusional just like the rest have any world class come into this mess and we are going to be in the same position
@@TurnUpRyanour squad may be better, but morale wise they are through the floor
@@wimpycorpse and whose job is that to boost the morale? The manager.
@@nont18411 well we have had 6 managers unable to do that. A good number of the players are now at fault
@@TurnUpRyan it isn't better, yes we have higher quality players, but have absolutely no cohesion:
We have a ball playing goalkeeper with two center backs that cant retain posettion, we have a Inbox striker, with two wingers that are not creative, in the center midfield the only one with physiscality is bruno, we have a left back that overlaps but he is has to use his weak foot to make the pass
You can't say Burnley team doesn't have a better team cohesion than us
Shithouse players, can't handle any pressure at all. Any sort of fightback from a team and they fold everytime. I genuinely feel sorry for Sir Jim having to rebuild this mess.
there was once again a penalty claim for United brushed off, equal to the one against Wan Bissaka
That would have been 2-0
Im no conspiracy nut, but come on....
They couldn't handle pressure under Jose either...nothing new! Any team that gets the ball and runs at them they shit themselves and have done for years.
@@matthewbaker2573 we shouldn't be relying on penalties to beat fucking Burnley, come on.
@@stevecuthbert5150 so so true. The mentality needs shifting in that dressing room. Small clubs come to old Trafford and get results on a regular basis now.
@@stevecuthbert5150how many of these players were playing under Jose? I don't think any of them tbb
Onana did that on the opening day of the season against wolves and got away with it today wasn’t gonna be the same it’s Reckless we are just Pathetic
yeah, that was reckless from Onana. Maybe it's a good thing we didn't get 3 points, we didn't play well enough to deserve it.
Crazy header in the box from Casemiro and Onana was very clumsy, pen for me. BUT the way we play is shocking, no plan, no strategy, no control. ETH out for me.
Onana do the same Wolves game at home. He deserved red card.😊
How we could do with Fred sold for £9m less than the loan fee for a worse player
Because John Mutough don’t know how to negotiate. Glad he’s gone. That was 9-10years of incompetence.
We have the worst midfield in the league. The space and gaps for opposing teams is insane
It is by design, ETH has set this structure up. Similar to Ajax but they had the quality to deal with it. I don't understand why we can't play a different system if we have all these personnel issues.
From a neutral (Spurs fan) looking in on United - Like all things it's never just 1 issue. The main thing I see is Man Utd is not a football club, it's a brand. Any manager who comes in can't just be a tactician, players mate, the decision maker etc. They have to be a media man, politician and all the other roles that Sir Alex use to fill amazingly. Obviously, the players haven't helped with injuries, Sancho issue, Ronaldo issue, Greenwood issue but it fundamentally falls back on the manager. I know United fans would riot if Southgate came in but it may be a more savvy move than we initially think. Southgate is a yes man, he can deal with the media and leave the tactics to his coaching staff
Shameful performance whole season!
Agree with everything you said except for Southgate. He would be a disaster for United. He’s only done well with England because he’s working with the most gifted footballers this country has produced in decades.
You having a laugh? Jog on!
Of course an opposition fan would want us to end up with an empty suit who can’t even manage England with such talent available to him.
@@Discombobulate453He should've done better with the players he has
The Amrabat joke was hilarious 🤣
😂😂
You said Casemiro had a good game???? He gave away the penalty with a stupid header back to the goalie who had to come for the ball.
If you look at it again it is obviously not a good header, but AWB wins it with ease and heads it out of harm's way just before Onana comes out like a lunatic to take a Burnley player's head off. Onana deserves 100% of the blame.
Ten Hag said that Amad has been seriously injured and he's trying to manage that, but I think it's time to start him. We improve with him on the pitch and Garnacho needs a rest. Antony actually looked dangerous today
Never get a player solely on a world cup. Expensive lesson for many clubs
Happens after every WC when clubs get sucked in only to become very disappointed.
What’s going wrong - I’ll start with my limited inside knowledge into united. Around last year I tore my hamstring and was lucky enough to see Dr Mark Gilett at the Cleavland hospital in London, he’s the chief medical officer for the premier league. I asked him who’s medical department he believed was currently the best in the league. His response now makes a lot of sense, he said Arsenal, and he said Arsenals whole
backroom staff are fantastic - lines up with their performance. I had to ask him about united, and all he did was pull a face - explains a lot!
Especially regarding our insane injury list and ridiculous procedures around injury this season. The amount of player getting reinjured is absurd, and to me that suggests a major problem with the system we have in getting players back. You saw Mctominay today, on for 15 and reinjured??
Who is rushing these players
back?
On top of this, I think the point needs to be made out the backroom staff are so crucial to allow the players to perform, I have no insight there, but based off the track record of the medical department so far, I can’t say I currently hold out hope. But how can you expect the players to perform if training programmes
are fucked and players are all doing the same shit? Where is the individualisation?
The reason I say that is because my other limited knowledge into professional football is that so many teams of the highest level have general training plans for everyone, how is that good enough?
I can’t stick up for the form the players have been showing this season, it’s been so poor, but you have to ask the question of the staff who are programming for them. These players who did decent last year and we have some individuals who genuinely are quality, don’t just fall off a cliff. Something has to be wrong behind the scenes.
I think we also need to actually ask the question around Rashford as well. Is this guy ACTUALLY ok? The guy had a quality year last year and this year has fallen off a cliff. He needs help, he needs support and the club appear to not be giving him that support. Idk if the club have a sport psych but it’s negligence if they don’t. A good sport psych would make a world of difference at united. I’m saying this from my current training in that field as it’s coming to an end.
The whole thing looks broken, the atmosphere and the relationships. I hope INEOS have something in mind to fix this, but I can’t see it being a quick fix.
I see a lot of talk about which players we should let go and bring in to improve. After this season and our tactics, I’d be surprised if many of our half decent players aren’t looking to leave if ETH stays and who’d want to come? Tactically, I haven’t experienced a worse manager in my decades at OT. You could drive an aircraft carrier through the midfield.
No style of play! Let's just play the academy youngsters now, give them the experience and see their determination! It'll be refreshing to watch.
Apathy is quickly becoming my only emotion towards this team.
I had that for a while, trust me it soon turns to contempt
Feel the same Ste with regards to ending the season now. Dreading the cup final 😫
I honestly think this season has been the perfect storm of problems. Injuries, major falling outs, player off field problems, low morale, combined with a group of players that already has more than a few bad attitudes and egos has made them show even worse. Basically the same group of players last season looked happy and played well, seem to fall apart whenever they go through hardship or poor form. This combined with Ten Hags lack of will to adapt or change things, has made us show our true colors. I think once we start to sell off so many of those bad attitudes this summer and assuming we can get the right players in and a fully healthy squad, we’ll look much better once we’re reset. Got to be ruthless with sales and recruitment though. I still think it takes another full year though of continuing to be precise in our actions instead of completely disjointed before we see significant change.
The only way we move up the table next year is a) Other teams fall off for whatever reason.
B) We move on players who cannot play possession based high line high iq players and bring in: 2 high line good on the ball oassing centerbacks, a striker to rotate with howjlund, a leftback who can stay fit or a rightback and dalot can play leftback and most importantly and where i would soend the biggest is at cdm or 6. Look at the top 3 and see what they have spent to cover that role. Arsenal=110mil Rice City=Rodri who if they had to buy would be a 100mil player, liverpool=2-4 players in mcallister endo gravenberch and szoboslai which is well over 110mil in players. This is our key focal point player and this player needs to be able to tackle defend pass or dribble out from the back and have a workrate that is the highest on the team.
wtf was case thinking?? Why did ten hag take off mainoo and not Erikson ffs. And ofc amads shot at the end gets blocked by Bruno 😭
And how we didn’t get a penalty I’ll never know
He took.them off because in 96 minutes united had scored 1 goal from as mistake at home against a team bottom of the league
How is 47% possession dominating the ball?
The game today just summed up our season. Not enough goal threat and always likely to throw one in.
How is he not putting all possible effort at training trying to sure up the midfield? They were literally running the ball from their own half straight through our midfield and in on goal with out effort! And this happens game after game!!!
Hard to even bring yourself to care anymore, every ffn week,fcn head melters .
Hello, steph, thanks for the video: at this point i have couple of things that really matters:
- The season is over, no champions league qualification possible
- INEOS should release a statement backing or replacing Ten Hag
- It is essential and compulsory that a squad overhaul is addressed during the summer and the next 3 transfers window because these lads have the stomach too full of cash to fight for their lives and the success of the club. They talk a lot on the media but are silent on the pitch.
Being generous, our team today had:
GK: first choice
RB: second choice
CB: a midfielder and a 3rd/4th/5th choice player
LB: a RB out of position
CM: a kid and 3rd/4th choice
CAM: 1st choice
LW: a kid; 2nd choice
RW: 1st choice
FW: only choice
We have injuries out the ass, players horrifically out of form and commitments being questioned. Three of our starters are kids who are being forced to play every game due to a lack of options. We have eight players who would otherwise have started in our defence currently missing. And despite all that, we were winning the game until a stupid individual error let Burnley get back into it. What the hell else is EtH supposed to do?
Ste whats your thoughts on wan bissaka ? Personally over the last few weeks hes been absolutly shocking. Going forward he panics and looks so anxious with the ball and also defensively hes terrible. Like he will run along side an attacker and puts in a half arsed tackle. Anyway sir keep up the good work love the videos ❤
AWB's had a couple of poor games, but mostly he's been great. No-one works harder.
@@davidalderson4980 personally i think since hes came back from injury hes been terrible. Not just yesterdays game been like that for a while. Last year he was a lot better than hes been this year
It would be pure United to smack City in the FA Cup Final.
Yes.
You're a beaut sunshine.
Nothing at all hits as hard as unexpected United.
3-2 up with ten minutes to go.
Bollocks in a vice and on we go.
The match against Burnley was pure United
I'm at a point now where I have realised that it's not the managers, it's not the players and it's not the Glazers. It is the fanbase that is destroying this club with their lack of patience, over expectancy of success and total stubbornness to see a job through. Do I enjoy seeing my team play like this no I don't but do I realise that we aren't just going to be entitled to win everything. Success comes from hard work, perseverance, and making the right decisions. Not through Panic, knee jerk reactions or having moving targets.
Mate he’s been there long enough to have a system he sticks with the same team every week that doesn’t work .
Your telling me there isn’t a centre half and a left back in the academy that can come in to give us some balance ?
He has no structure in the midfield and the wide players don’t cross or try and plan anything in the box for Rasmus then he takes him off and what the he’ll was the system then ?
It’s fucking Burnley at home and they could of had us by half time
He’s got to go sick to death of him now
Fans want to see progression. Progression will ultimately deliver results. I doubt many fans are unrealistic about what timescale the team needs to contend at the upper end again but we are not seeing any progression. It's actually the opposite. The brightest moments in terms of coherent play was against Palace reserves in the EFL. That's a sad indictment of how poor the team has become. This season is a write off, I want to see a firm direction in terms of squad shaping in the summer even if it means another season outside the top 4. No more quick fixes, 2nd choices, bargain signings. No more players signed at 29 or above. No more players on £300k a week
Thanks for the replies guys and yet further evidence of my opinion. It's not progression your after it's back to your entitlement of what you see as success. The fact that we over achieved last season has led you to believe that we should be better this. Unfortunately this isn't how progression works you need time to build to continued success and may well see backwards steps to get there. With opinions like this we will never give any manager a chance to create success and we will always be a club that isn't good enough
We dominated the ball for periods of the game. But there were also large periods when Burnley kept the ball and did it better than we do 😅. They even had the ball when it was 1-1 despite it being Old Trafford and United chasing a win!
I watched Rasmus in 1st half specifically. He made constant runs in good positions, either his team mates don't like him or they've been told not to pass to him. If it was Zlatan they would be feeding him all day.
Does Rasmus Hojlund exist in the physical realm?
Nobo wants pass to him
@@user-gt5hs5ux2ibecause his touch is so poor
53% possession at Old Trafford by Burnley. This is the sort of statistic that will get EtH the sack.
He’s already going. There’s no way they’re gonna keep him.
@@christopherwhittaker2620 if you’re right, he might as well go now. Ole beat Pep a few times so let him have a crack the final. 🤷♂️
@@rosssloman1309 maybe get Ollie back?🤔😂😂😂
At least it would be funny 😂😂😂
My biggest concern’s are the tactical things like us being so open on transition in the middle all season and the cut back chances we give away every game. That’s my worry that he’s not addressing these kind of issues. If you don’t have the defensive player’s to do the high line to take that space then unfortunately you’ve got to drop the whole side back.
Onana is knocking out people left and right.
Something fundamentally wrong in the dressing room , why doesn’t anyone give the ball to Hojlund , why is Anthony playing over Amad , has anyone ever seen Hojlund get his head on a cross , no , because no one ever puts a cross in , our wingers are only interested in scoring themselves .
Our mentality is shit , can’t hold a lead , same issues every week . The manager and the coaching staff must be seeing this so they are either shit at their jobs or the players don’t want to listen , hopefully the new hierarchy can get to grips with this.
Personally if it was possible I’d clear out most of the playing staff with the exception of Mainoo , Hojlund , Amad onana and Martinez and I’d bring in a new set of coaches to work under ETH , bring through more of the youngsters and some new signings and start from scratch, can’t be worse than this shit show
the fact that the team doesn't have any set attacking patterns to create chances for Hojlund after being here for almost a full season is unbelievable to me. Onana passed to him the most today 4 times, what is this, are we a relegation team that the only way for our striker to get the ball is for the keeper to hoof it up to him. Antony had 8 shots, why? when your striker has 0? This team is just very poorly coached and they do nothing on the training pitch. Either that or the manager and the players have lost trust in each other because something happened in preseason. So they don't trust his judgement at all.
@@jtmz87 my thoughts exactly, I don’t like to say it but I think ETH has to go , just can’t see how things change without it
I don't understand why mount can't get a start and why Eriksen was kept on for so long. Subs were shocking as well, game management is very poor
Bunley scored two minutes after Eriksen was substituted with McTominay 😂
Ten Hag brought him in slowly then he got injured again 🤷🏽♀️
@@ua697 wtf are you on about? Burnley scored from a pen from onana, what’s that got to do with eriksen coming off??
@@EwanP27 You single one player out, who wasn't even on the pitch, when Burnley got a penalty 🙄
Calling to play Bruno as an 8 is insane Ste: our one genuine world class player and the most creative player in the prem the last 5 years has to be played in his correct position; not sacrificed because we're incapable of signing a DM.
I was in the Stretford End and the biggest thing I noticed was the tempo. So slow playing out. Some player were making runs then giving up cos it went route one anyway.
You think Utd dominated the ball.
Possession: Utd 46% Burnley 54%..
Onana was playing close to the half way line when United had dominate possession for the first 20min, Burnley's keeper only came out for loose balls
You clearly don't watch the games and just look at stats
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You watched the first 20 minutes and didn't watch the rest.
@@jackburgess274 duh - Burnley had more possession, and 11 less shots
doesn't take a mathematician to work out who was more dominant
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It was just Utd's usual crap of shots that are speculative and/or on the counterattack (and of Burnley's inability to shoot when in positions that required their so doing).
@@jackburgess274 you clearly didn't watch the game and just read stats
Burnley's keeper was flawless and pulled off several vital saves other keepers have let slip this season
Just end the season man I'm so sick of this team. The whole coaching staff and players are a joke. Winning the FA Cup would be the dream but we ain't winning that playing like this are we? Sigh...
Ole was absolutely hammered with the individual brilliance stick but holy fuck it has never been more present in this team. I'm not sure where it went wrong with Erik but you can fully see he just can not get things back under control. I'm not sure who we get in come the summer but I would be fucking surprised if its still Erik.
The chance at the end where Amad and then Antony both had shots despite us having 5 or 6 players in their box is a good example of the selfishness and lack of composure in our team.
This man is in denial about his beloved manager it’s actually painful to watch now
Hes not he just can't sit here and suddenly turn on him when he was blaming injuries and people above him all season
He doesn't really think ten hag can do anything he's just not man enough to admit he was wrong in the other 100 videos where he loves ten hag
@@iwilltouchyourtoes you see i disagree i think ste would love ten haag getting another season
@@allackballack it's possible but I'd doubt it, he's got zero enthusiasm when talking about him now compared to before when he just blamed to players 100% now he's shifted to saying ten hag needs to improve as if that's a likely outcome
Personally if it's only one more year on his contract why not let him have a season while you try and get rid of all the high earners over the next few transfer windows then if he fails at least the next manager would have a clean slate coming in
@@iwilltouchyourtoes no i think even our current squad isnt worse than aston villas and theyre in the top 4. this isnt acceptable and he should be sacked
Onana pulls of a worldie and then costs us points. I'm fed up of this club no they don't deserve our support .
That was down to Casemiro heading it back to Onana.
You would also see this with Alisson if he were to see the levels of volume Onana does. It's the same with cutbacks etc, these glairing issues are going to be more pronounced because of the volume we suffer.
That was pure hospital pass from Cas
Go and support City then you big baby.
@@shaunk84 AWB cleared the ball with his head, so that is BS. Onana didn't have to come for the ball and stuffed up big time.
Onana also made a world class save and a great one on one save
Every midfielder has struggled under ETH apart from Kobbie. Even Bruno. It would be exciting to see both under a manager with new ideas
Lmao wait till he watches back and sees Casemiro’s suicide header in his own box 😂
İ think we gotta look at Rasmus himself for how little he impacts the game, he's got raw potential but he has to start forcing himself onto the game
Not being utilised for why he was bought. A target man (who's never a target).
Hard to be a target when your runs are terrible. Watch Hojlund’s movement when we’re on the attack. He is still young though but he needs to work on his runs and positioning.
He’s already dropping deep, moving wide, holding the centre, etc. The problem is that aside of the goalkeeper and Fernandes, nobody is even trying to pass to him and that’s not his fault at all, but the short-sightedness of our wingers. Rasmus is doing the best he can with what he’s given, it’s the wide attackers who are letting him down.
He's running endlessly what more do u expect of him when he's playing with "shoot first, pass after" wingers?
It's difficult to be a target man, when the wingers don't want to make a pass
Hasn't ruined my weekend, used to it now and I'm just after writing off this season, Ten hag should just start fielding the u21s till the end of the season
Regarding Antony, are United continually playing him to increase his price ready for him to be sold at the end of the season, or is he really deserving of starting before Amad?
this club has a curse im convinced
Sir Jim might need to sign a witch doctor on a permanent deal because it's probably more than one curse
£162m wasted on Antony and Hojlund. One day people need to realise how awful he is as a footballer. It's not a "service" issue, he's got a horrible first touch, awful link up, league 2 positoning and non existent hold up play where he couldn't win a single aerial. The worst striker I've ever seen at the club. We had the likes of Ruud, RVP, Rooney, Ole, Cavani, Zlatan, Cole, Yorke all had footballing ability.
Mainoo substitution got booed, nobody was booing Hojlund.
He is, and I will keep saying this, one of the worst strikers in the league. Everyone needs to stop making excuses for him.
All he does is run around with the most useless press I have ever seen. Just running at defenders so they can pass it off and he wastes energy. One of the lowest IQ footballers in this low IQ team.
And just to make it clear. If Bruno of all players, a chance creation monster cannot find you then your positioning is unforgivably bad.
Finally people are getting it.... Anthony and Rasmus are the same level of rubbish. Only one missing in your assessment is Malacia. Though Malacia is really missing.
@@preetjitsingh328 Malacia is a far better footballer than both.
"Louis might've done it in the third year". Sums it up for me. Give Ten Hag time. Riddled with injuries, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Sancho sagas. New ownership, new players finding their feet. Let him see out his contract and well judge him on next season.
Ste when you're watching united is højlund making runs for and we're not supplying him or is he not making the moves
Hey, Ste:
Given the continued abysmal substitutions and mind-boggling starting of Anthony over and over again - I feel he's doing this purposely so he will be sacked and he can then go back to Ajax. With a hero's welcome, no less.
He's sabotaging MUFC to set himself up better.
Diabolical!
Exactly. 100% Facts bro. He was brought in for his playing style at Ajax. Well he lied, and played us like a fiddle, what a fraud. The sooner he's sacked the better!
Why dont we start backing the manager over the players for once
The manager is utter shite pal.
Exactly
It’s so annoying
Agreed!
After we scored our goal I said to my mates that’s fine but now can we hang on, I no sooner had said that then they get a penalty and one of my mates said, well there is your answer another fuck up. Don’t know where this is going to end it’s heartbreaking.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think part of the reason Amrabat looks so poor is that both Serie A and international football aren't at the same standard as the Premier League is.
We've seen countless players do decently at international tournaments and then not match it at club level.
And in recent years, we've seen a lot of Premier League cast-offs (Smalling, Lukaku, Darmian, Matic, Lookman) do pretty well in Serie A when their Premier League careers fizzled out.
Amrabat will be fine when he goes back, because both the ceiling and floor of quality in the league is lower than it is here.
Get rid of this manager and some of the players, the midfield is non existent. We are so difficult to watch it’s embarrassing.
It should be Casemiro in the thumbnail, not Onana.... The pen was a case mistake. And why the actual flying fuck we didn't get that pen at the end???
Best league in the world, and the officiating is abysmal....
Somehow we have the ability to make any team play like they are just as good as us
The fact that a goalkeeper is passing more to a centre forward than other outb field players is outrageous
Tired of this manager. Tired of his subs, his football, his inability to coach a compact team. His excuses, his lack of accountability. It’s all a shambles and it’s the most tactically inept season post Fergie
It is indeed all the managers fault. Not sure how he hasn't got more out of this world class group of players, disgusting to see how he's developing the youth as well. Recon we should shoot through managers like Watford, I'm sure when the right one comes in he'll hit the ground running and challenge for titles immidietly, like Arteta or even Fergie.
What makes you think Ten Hag can do it? He's literally proving he cannot do it, haha
what makes you think anyone can do it with this team and structure ?
@@joaquinandremarquezvera6515 Burnely at home..come on man. BURNLEY. even with the injuries, we should win
We could've won, we had 2.7 expected goals and if burnley didn't had the penalty should've 1 Xg, we were wastefull in the final third, that has nothing to do with Ten Hag
They do deserve the support. And our patience. Psychology is huge on sport. He’s building a young team for long term consistent success. Theres going to be inconsistency until they develop. Most of the front free apart from Marcus are effectively playing up right now. Haven’t had a settled back four all season. BACK THE MANAGER and be patient. It will take us atleast another 2 years to get there so you either want to ride the wave until we get there and reap the rewards or change the set up again and continue to change every two years because most of ours fans are to fickle and act like spoilt children, resulting in probably another 20 years of not winning the league or be patient and Eric build his young team and enjoy it when we start challenging in two years time.
Not signing a third striker was a huge mistake. Oscar estupinian would've been a decent third choice backup behind rasmus and martial. As for the rest of the team, I don't think any of us saw the amount of injuries coming
ONANA IS A JOKE
We have a young striker who score 10? goals for atalanta, a teenage leftwinger, a rightback on the left, a teenager in the midfield, a midfielder playing alongside Maguire. The squad is a mess.
ETH is not the first problem I would fix.
we’ll be lucky to win any of our remaining fixtures, with the way palace have been playing lately i genuinely won’t be surprised if we get embarrassed next week
Two main things we've got to sort out before we're going to get any change, both to the improvement in play and the consistency. One is a strong, pacy central midfielder who can hold a ball up, to go at the side of Mainoo. The weakness in central midfield this year has led to a consistent lack of control in midfield causing wide open spaces, too many shots on our goal and not enough counter attacks in the final third, resulting in a poor supply to the front men and a crap goal tally. Burnley strolling through midfield today only highlighted the problem further.
Secondly it's criminal that a club of our standing has only got a 21 year old as an out and out front option. So we need to sign a proven centre forward to go at the side of Rasmus, which will also give us more depth in that position. I'm not saying there aren't other problems, but for me if I could buy two players this summer, then those positions would be my priority. We desperately need to start controlling games in the middle of the park.
Travelled from London to watch the game. I was relieved it was 1-1. Could not understand if it was a penalty or not, but Burnley genuinely looked like they controlled the game. They looked like a fucking drilled team. Our wingers are so predictable that Rasmus looks lost. Spent 200 quid in total, only to watch our first cross by Bruno across the box in the 70th minute. Thats our season in a nutshell.
Cheer up Steve. I have seen some passing and movement which is on par with the best in the Premiership. It is just the final pass around the penalty area, passing through the middle is 9/10. Our current centre back partnership is not first choice. Garnacho is still young, no excuse for Anthony. We know Scott can’t close a game out but TH did try and sell him last season. I am hopeful for the FA Cup final.
this is the season of patience. just like arsenal had and liverpool had to before their good seasons. we have to persist through it because I honestly feel the players think they can get the manager the sack. ten haag needs to be backed above the players. this manager is actually good we have seen it... look at ajax after ten haag left... they have fallen off a cliff. I feel once the players realise hes here to stick and he will be backed above them they will start to respect and play for him.. those snide comment likes and twitter posts will also go.
In my opinion, success in professional football, is not just a product of individual talent but also the symbol of a shared mentality and effort. Player attitude and fitness are so, so important.
Player attitude is a cornerstone of any successful football team. For example, Marcus Rashford an academy product, has shown moments of brilliance on the pitch. But, things like going to a party after a massive loss in the Derby can have noxious effects on team morale. Actions like that suggest a lack of commitment to the team's ethos and a disconnect from the passion and loyalty of us fans. I believe that maintaining a professional demeanour, especially in rough times, is essential for team solidarity and public perception. (I’m basically trying to say we’re a laughing stock to other clubs)
Fitness is also a non-negotiable. A player like Shaw, who no doubt has the ability, is always out injured. It's difficult to justify a significant financial investment in a player who isn't consistently available for selection. A squad spot taken by an injury-prone player could be given to someone more dependable (summer transfer window?), which I’m sure you’d all agree is crucial for the team's strategic planning and competitive readiness.
Investing in young talent is investing in the future of our club. A player like Rasmus Højlund might not have had an amazing 1st season, but he’s only 21 and embodies the potential and ambition that we should value. Despite his youth, he shows a readiness to grow and a hunger for success. Just look at how he celebrated the winning goal against Coventry. Yes that game was terrible, but it was still the winning penalty that got us to the FA Cup final. Those players should’ve been celebrating with him. Yet they left him alone with the fans. With the right support, including a strong midfield to give him better service, Højlund and other young players could become the foundation for United’s sustained success.
To sum it up, the structure of a squad requires a balance of skill, attitude, and fitness. Players who show a careless attitude or are continually unavailable due to fitness issues can undermine team unity and success. For a club like Manchester United to regain our status as a powerhouse in the game we all love, we need a culture of professionalism and resilience. Which in the current moment, we really don’t have.
I think the most obvious mitigating circumstance is the squad depth being stretched beyond breaking point for the majority of the season, forcing Ten Hag to constantly either play someone out of position or have basically the exact same team that has underperformed for months, running them into the ground... the season after reaching 2 domestic cup finals in a World Cup year.
However, the fact that the team are so incredibly open and generous towards the opposition when it comes to allowing shots on goal, counter attacks & it feels like always inviting pressure which leads to conceding late penalties (questionable, inconsistent decisions, but almost always decisive) coupled with being wasteful in attack and having Hojlund starved of any service whatsoever, then expecting him to do a bunch of closing down but not having another fit striker at the club, means he just gets knackered and then frustrated when being subbed. Likewise, the rest of our attacking options, always shaking their heads when taken off, but realistically: Rashford, Garnacho, Antony & Amad are the only positions that Ten Hag has to make choices on who to start because everywhere else is practically "Who is currently fit? You're starting then!"
Since Champions League qualification is realistically in the bin, Europa/Conference League depending on the outcome of the FA Cup final and remaining ahead of Newcastle in the league... it almost feels like we should just play the fringe & academy lads in the Palace & Brighton games so that the first team players can get a rest for the games against Arsenal, Newcastle & City.
The amount of chaos in both boxes where we look on edge & vulnerable when defending corners/free-kicks while also being almost toothless when attacking them (until Maguire in the semi-final) Sometimes it genuinely feels like we're more likely to score from an opposition goal kick than being awarded a corner or free-kick in a dangerous position. Whoever the set-piece coach is, either gets ignored or is bad at his job. Lack of cohesion can partly be down to not having a settled XI, but after 2 years, pattern of play or not, we're still so reliant on opposition mistakes or moments of individual magic which is why nobody knows what to expect results-wise. Performances are easy to predict: Disappointing, frustrating, slow build up, sloppy passing, absent minded marking, wasteful shooting or getting fouled but ref turning a blind-eye.
If the INEOS hive mind are building a structure with a more defined roadmap to success, then it won't happen overnight, but steps have to be taken to move in the right direction. As things currently stand, replacing Ten Hag for the final 4 league games of the season & FA Cup Final wouldn't change anything as the incoming manager would still have the exact same squad to choose from. But even if we were improving on last year, it still wouldn't hurt to have a back-up plan in place for which coach fits the identity that they're looking at to take the club forward where everyone is pulling in the exact same direction.
This current squad still contains players signed by Louis (Shaw, Martial), Jose (Lindelof, Dalot), Ole (Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Fernandes, Amad, Varane) but all three coaches have different characteristics they were looking for that don't necessarily fit either Erik's style or the INEOS long-term vision. It'd be incredibly refreshing to see how United go about their business in the summer... not just bringing in a big marquee signing or massively overpaying in the market. Also, wouldn't it be amazing if we avoided a drawn out summer transfer saga? Bring back the days of just unveiling 4-5 signings together with little-to-no speculation, negotiations or rumours like when van der Gouw, Johnsen, Cruyff, Poborsky & Solskjaer. No fuss, just bringing in players to improve the depth, then eventually maybe become part of a reliable core.
However, we've currently been going through a period of wasting huge sums of money on players who haven't stuck around long (Di Maria, Lukaku, Sanchez) and never really seemed like they suited how United play... meaning they were "Football Manager/FIFA" glamour signings, instead of attempting to improve the team. Also, bringing in one iconic individual (Zlatan/Cristiano) is fine, but if that just makes their absence even more noticeable, then as Ste's said in the past "pinpoint your weakest area and raise the floor first before you worry about your ceiling"
Great job as always Howson. I wish I had some great wisdom to give towards the future of our club but I’m like you right now. Stick or twist both seems poop at this stage of the season. 😳
hojlund was used as a false 9 to drag players to get runners behind . which surprises me alot
What vehicle do you drive ?
For me this summer is about who we get rid of more than who we bring in. What happens is that every time we get a new manager we bring in a few new players and maybe we sell a couple. The issue with this is that we never get rid of all the players that we need to so they infect the new players that are coming through.
Recently I watched some of Gary Neville’s old post match interviews, Everton 4-0 under ole, a couple of the city games, and the brentford 4-0 last season. In those videos he is saying the exact same thing that we’re all saying now. A team that’s very open and has very little structure to it. What’s worrying is that these issues are happening under different managers.
One of my biggest arguments for ten hag was that I wanted to see him under a proper structure, but atm it doesn’t even look like the complete structure will be in place by the time his contracts up. I think just ride it out for another season and let the new structure make a decision that they can think out thoroughly. Plus the manager market will be completely different and there’s nobody out there right now that makes me feel disappointed if we don’t get them.
Hope all the fans who wanted Fred gone are enjoying his absence in midfield. Whatever he lacked in quality on the ball, his energy, work rate and defensive abilities were top class
Anybody here going for the palace game away? Can I ask which pub before the game? I’m headed down from Singapore
but we’re also used to the emotional feeling of “we gotta sack this guy now” so let’s just not do it. so close to the end of the season, let’s keep him and assess come october.