Division 2: St Elmo's Engine - Best in Slot
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Right, due to popular demand, this is been half rushed, my testing is not complete, so there are likely more things to find and test, as well as I need to do an in depth with Ceska Vs Grupo on St Elmo.
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Thanks buddy. I really should do this.
Thanks!
Just asking would the negotiators build work with coyotes mask??
@winglessleo2476 Yes, though this would be best used with the Nego backpack.
@@DodRegnbue No worries, I am great if it helps :)
Bro you should definitely feel appreciated. Ive played this game for almost 5 years now and ive seen many people regarded as the best source for build info but none of them have ever put out the quality content that you have. You are the by far the very best source of information on what works in this game, bar none. It's seriously a crime that you don't have a much bigger following. Most of us would have never heard of dispatch or rise without your help. Keep up the good work. Btw i love your new control point guides. Maybe do missions after that?
Also I'm really excited for saint Elmo's but mostly for the weapon handling lol
played the game for 5 years too never heard of this content creator EVER before now. But would love to refere to someone who actually has a slight idea of what they are talking about, since majority of the other creators has no idea what they are doing or talking about!
He doesn’t have a big following because he doesn’t use the bullshit headlines like THIS BUILD MELTS!!!!! 1000% CRIT HIT DAMAGE!!!!!! LEGENDARY RAID KILLER!!!!! META KILLER!!!! And I’m ok with that.
Numbers and I do not mix well, I am glad you, number, charts and graphs mix well!
great insight and videos as always I was so use to running with armor around 1.3, but since watching your videos i been total DPS with striker and St elmos and other ARs.
Thanks Boss, always appreciate your build info. I will be making these tonight 😊
I couldn't wait for you to do a build with this weapon. Love all your videos 👍🏽
Thanks Dod, great video appreciate your work.❤
Not a problem
Thank's...best regard's from Germany 🇩🇪
And just like that, everyone has forgotten about Sacrum Imperium lol
Forgotten about what?
Very good man, thanks!
Stack perpetuation into the mix on your gun just for the initial burst with Fire Sticky with Trauma on the chest. Red Eclipse. Vile. Happy Days!
Kilroy was here 👊👀👊
So I was thinking of a red eclips build with this gun just for fun ....I had alot of fun with it with the scorpio
You are unable to maintain Shock ammo effectively and the Shock Duration is like 3 seconds. Even with the Refresh spreading the shock is utteraly pointless.
@@DodRegnbue aww that sux i was hoping to have some fun with it
Vile would at least work with it
Gained a sub im liking your vids
The mods on this gun look good to me because I like to run my ninjabike builds (the new gearset is a godsend for PvP with its 2pc bonus - 40% hazpro on one piece! Throw on a ceska and a yaahl with a walker harris and foxes and finally you have a hazpro build with some teeth) but because of it I am often lacking just a bit of crit. However I wonder whether it would actually benefit me given that the shock talent won't do much for me vs. Strained, Optimist etc. And for PvE I just run striker and focus most of the time coz I'm a shield peeking little bitch. So... I dunno but I'm excited to try it out.
On the last striker build with Grupo chest - Wouldnt PGC be more DPS?
PGC is more if you're hitting headshots, but at max stacks it will be pretty close. Obliterate bonus will multiply with Strikers. Strikers' bonus says it is Total Weapon Damage but it's actually Amplified. So at max stacks, Obliterate and GC would be equal. The 5% extra from PGC probably outweighs the 15% CHD from Grupo, especially since we have so much CHD anyway, but really the question comes with the 60% damage taken and whether you personally can deal with that.
@@d15p4tch6 thank you! Given the way obliterate works (based on CHC + stack lasts 5s) wouldnt uptime at full stacks be very short lived? Or am i thinking about it incorrectly? admittedly I havent used obliterate all that much.
@@jprk1024 if you get a crit within those 5 seconds, you keep all the existing stacks. Strikers is one of the only talents that doesn't work this way - with Strikers you lose your 2 stacks every second no matter what you do.
@@d15p4tch6 got it. In my head I thought the obliterate stacks worked the same way as the striker stacks.
Get use to perfect glass cannon and everything else becomes easy!
Was disappointed when I tested OGD not having both spec ammo in st elmos. And kinda sucks that status doesn’t effect the shock. But that would be ridiculous if it did. Kinda like the Scorpio doesn’t
When u run these numbers, do you also factor in reload speed and magazine size? St. Elmo reloads like half a second faster than the famas with sturdy mag
Mag size and reload has no effect on Burst DPS.
@@DodRegnbue yea but I’m terms of damage output over time, would it not have an effect? If My mag size is larger, I can shoot longer and if my gun also reloads faster, I can continue outputting damage quicker
This will only be a factor is you cannot kill one enemy per mag.
Honestly, if it is taking you more than 70 bullets to kill an enemy, you have a completely different issue.
Killing 3 adds in one Mag is 3 sets of Burst DPS.
Damaging and Add, reloading, then killing him is Sustained.
Theoretically, St Elmos compeltely removes the Sustained DPS Arguement, as, like I said, if you cannot kill things in 70 bullets. You have a different problem.
Should I use ceska knees with st elmos ? or gs chest with obliterate? I usually run the chest with obli , also elmo or famas with strained? for raw dps
yes i am thank you
Does ongoing directive replace shock bullets or do they double up??? Haven’t got at Elmo’s yet so am just curious.
Unfortunately you can only have one or the other, so when you get the shock ammo you won't have the hollow point ammo, but if you kill an enemy as your shock ammo runs out, or shortly after, that will proc the hollow point ammo to drop and then you will have hollow points until you build back up to full shock stacks and then you will rinse and repeat all again
The Striker build recommended with the Striker chest piece, i assume you usually run that in Legendary runs? I very rarely get to upper 150-200 stacks before everything is dead. Atleast on Heroic.
I do not really use Striker's chest
@@DodRegnbue I see. I've been trying to farm the shit out of that perfect Ceska chest piece to no avail. Great vid as usual.
I know, I know, I know, Memento is played out and not BiS for most builds. But even Walker, Harris, & Co. beats it out in the Negotiator build? I'm surprised.
Walker and Harris by itself, no.
Walker and Harris with Vigi? Absolutely.
Hello. What kind of Tool is that you postet in video at minute 04:05?
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For the first OD build, with golan and Electrique, why would you run that instead of a ceska and Grupo roll with status effects? Same status effects and more crit chance and crit damage right? Or does it just not fit as well? And those pieces would be easier to farm.
The Grupo piece you can, that would be easier. Ceska is really annoying to fit in and most of the time I ended up with odd rolls.
@@DodRegnbue yeah I figured that might be it. Great video and thank you for the clarification!
@@DodRegnbue would the Anarchists Cookbook roled red be a viable option along with a grupo GC chest until a unicorn trots into view?
@@andygreener3130 Shock and Awe Gives Total Skill Damage and Repair, so yeah you can, but it will not benefit the weapon in any way.
@@DodRegnbue shock and awe is on the China named bp isn’t it?
Anarchists Cookbook is named Golan with perfectly wicked I think
Hi dod!
Since my laptop died i cannot play this game anymore, what about a build with red eclipse protocol??
For the strikers and coyote mask build. For solo player would it be better to run ceska and grupo with 2 crit damage mods? So you get 24% bonus crit damage and up to 58% total crit chance. Its less than the total bonus from coyote's mask but it also works constantly and at any range.
Ongoing directive with glass cannon and wicked
Glass cannon is best in slot for OD builds.
Wicked, although lower that Vigi, it applies on status effect which means we have 100% up time.
What do you think of tuxedo video of a striker build with that weapon?
I gather he is running Memento. . . .
Like always.
So on Striker's . . . . . Bad.
I was playing with a variation of your negotiators build but with a little tweak in Dodge City Holster just for fun. I noticed though, when you switch off St. Elmo, you lose the stack buildup so it gets very annoying very fast. Have you experimented with negotiators and Dodge City? Does it seem viable or should I ditch the gimmick? Thanks!
The main reason I see to use dodge City is for the once off emergency kill on an enemy, I suppose it could work if you tag the 3-5 enemies for negotiators dilemma and then whip out the pistol to hopefully oneshot them all, but that relies on getting lucky with the critical hit
I am a Dodge City Fan Girl. If I can fit it in, I will.
Now, you you tag enemies, swap to pistol and crit, WINNER!
Though if you did not crit, at least it is still one less enemy. So . . . .WINNER!
@@DodRegnbue This exactly is why I love running it! Plus I think it's kind of a cute quirk that makes my build MY build (10000 other people have probably done it before me lets ignore that). Still not sure which I prefer though, raw dps or dodge. I've been using the build you show in the video with sacrifice instead of walkers and it's felt really nice.
Nice work, however you keep comparing St. Elmo's to a damage talent Famas which in striker builds is probably not the best option. Most players will typically choose Fast Hands on a Famas precisely to increase stacks and sustained DPS you are comparing burst DPS only and not taking into consideration the 70 bullet mag and 20% handling which changes the comparison numbers significantly on sustained DPS and make them very similar on burst
Elmos actualy pretty much negates the use of Sustained DPS calculations.
If you need more than 70 rounds to kill something you have bigger issues. There is literally no point comparing them under Sustained DPS calculations.
Though if you are not using a Damage Talent, Elmo will win by rounghly 2.6%. The highest I have gotten the gap withough a Damage Talent is about 5% in favour of Elmo.
The majority of players I know actually do not use Fast Hands, I know of maybe 4 or 5 that actively use it, simply because it is not a Damage Talent.
More commonly people run Strained and Optimist - Optimist is actually the most Popular Talent on an AR. Even a Honey Badger with Optimist can out DPS Elmo (provided you get at least 10 head shot in the mag).
Okay yest, the handling is nice, but hitting the target is still something that you learn, practice, I have done legendary runs where people get 70% accuracy, with a Famas. Player skill is something that is near impossible to calculate, and in truth, I am actually having a hard time with Elmos handling as I keep subconsiously compensating for recoil that just is not there. So, for the moment, I am less accurate with what is technically a mroe accurate weapon.
@@DodRegnbue Oh boy! This seems like another long discussion :) 1. Sustained DPS is an important measure of DPS just ignoring it when it reaches 70 bullets on an AR makes no sense. The diminishing comment of how many bullets are needed to kill an NPC is unnecessary and incorrect. If you're shooting at a Boss, or several NPC's your sustained DPS matters, completely dismissing sustained DPS is arbitrary an in my opinion incorrect.
@@DodRegnbue 3. Yes, the effect of handling on accuracy is highly subjective and difficult to measure, I referred to handling due to the 20% reload speed and its objective impact on sustained DPS (along with the extended mag). However, one of the recognized speed runners of D2, Rammbob, has demonstrated more than once the advantage of the higher accuracy of the Police M4 at mid and long ranges prior to St. Elmos (but this is not really the issue here)
PS: just a small note, a lot of us can use Excel and I have done all my DPS calculations when PTS2 released
Does anyone know if Status Effects affect the shock uptime from the shock bullets? I'm thinking not (like Scorpio) but hoping I'm wrong! Not got it yet to test.
I would imagine it would, because since you actually get the shock ammo on your character and not build up stacks on an enemy to apply the shock, like with Scorpio, it should work. Especially since when I was playing my eclipse build the other day, I picked up some random shock ammo and it's shock was extended by all my status effects stats. Definitely something that would need conforming though
it does. I managed to increase mine to 5 sec with a lot of effort. Usually it lasts 2-3 seconds but it depends on how much status effect you have. And is usually not worth it increasing the amount of time for the shock unless its for a utility buildl like creeping death or eclipse etc. you will just lose dps
Make a video on how ur aim is so steady and keep it real
Practice. Sadly.
Dps focused Eclipse build with status effect as second rolls?
For me, not worth it, another video coming out soon showing it if you are interested.
So to be clear, you favor true patriot for max dmg on the elmo?
I would not say my favourite as i am not a big fan of True Patriot, but if I was to run Patriot, i would put Elmo's on. Yes.
"MATHBOY" XDDD
You rang?
Stacking into status effects enhances the shock?
No, it was for the bleed of On Going Directive.
Does the st elmo drop in general loot after its unlocked on the season?
You probably already know by now the answer is yes...picked my second one up in the summit 👍
@@martincole106 yeah I got another thanks
@Mr-fr7me I hope yours were better than mine...my stats have been rubbish and so far re-rolling has not given me anything better.
Can anybody please remind me of the chest and bp talents on ongoing? Are they that poor that you’d need glass canon?
Chest - Increase Hoolow Point Amp damage from 20% to 35%. Issue is, running Glass cannon multiplies with it. 1.2*1.25 = 1.5. so 50% Amp.
Backpack - INcrease the Duration of Bleed by 50% and damage by 100%. Only applies to Bleed.
@@DodRegnbue Ah. Had a dumb moment just then. I thought “but how because you can’t run both” but I now realise the 1st amp is from the 4 piece.
I currently run the chest and bp with vile and a n other glove.
Got a dttoc Famas all max with sadist and an L86 same stats as back up. I don’t like the initial kick of carnage.
Is there a more optimal way to run this (probably)?
Vile worth it?
Cheers
@@DodRegnbue No need to respond. Just rewatched video after a night shift on a bigger screen ( not iPhone SE).
All sorts of dumb going on in my head but I’m sorted now
Let the chest and bp farm begin!
@@DodRegnbue sorry to ask but is Sadist an amp or add?
i.e 1.25x1.2x1.2 = 80% amp or is it just additive to weapon damage?
Cheers, by the way. Informative and interesting as always
@@andygreener3130 Sadist, Ignited and Eyeless are all amplifiers.
Bonk shock build please 😂
Foxprayers and contractors gloves..dont they hit harder?
Running the cayotes mask is overcapping your crit chance.
Wich is a waist
Fox's and Contractors do less in this situation.
Coyotes is fine as long as I stay within 15 meters. Straight 25% more CHD. Even at mid another 10% is fine.
I also have 2 other weapons on me that do not come with 20% CHC and CHD attachments.
Put it on my eclipse pvp bleed build for the extra status. I keep it on my back for longer range. 30% multiplicative is wonderful. Have an all red pve version as well with sacrifice. Mmm nice. Hits and spreads bleed on kill. Definitely selfish though no team synergy just another dps build.
A teammate running onging directive, no lie, kinda bugs me, taking away my shock ammo after i build it up, not cool dude lol.
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i’d run 2 brazos, 3 striker and a ninja . get 90 rounds. i use that with eagle bearer too.
Another shield build
Having a shield does not make it a shield build.
Conceited much lol! 😄
I seen all kinds of builds and it always the same results for this new exotic rifle 👎🏽garbage 🗑️
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