Hail Joe Maswanganyi the man who truly knows without being bias the Tsonga-Shangaan history. Our king is the warrior king NXUMALO VIVA TATANA JOE MASWANGANYI
I ntiyiso WO tiya swinene he knows the Shangaan -'Tsonga history , vanhu I machangana vavulavula Xitsonga , kuhava king ya vatsonga kuna king ya machangana , kunga Soshangana Nxumalo
Aku na ntiyiso aka Joe Maswanganyi, if a tiva history he will know kuri Nwamanungu Siweya hi yena Hosinkulu ya Vatsonga vahaleni aka the so called Transvaal. Vo Njhakanjhaka iti Paramount Chiefs navo Mhinga.
Vuma surname is also a zulu surname and the is a place called ngwa Vuma in KZN so how did soshangane defeat the Vuma people if he came with them out of Kzn. Please help
Maswanganyi onge valava ku dyondzisiwa. Rixaka ira Vatsonga kambe ku na tigroup to hambanana ta Vatsonga. Ku namachangaan a Bush a Mpumalanga nale ka Magona na Bevhula. And few a Gaza province. Votala Giyani ahi Machangaan
Joào Albasin and Nwamanungu never subjected to Soshangaan. In fact Soshangaan had problems with the Portuguese because he was using plough to irrigate the land instead yo tirhisa xikomu and Portuguese did not approve of that
This history is distorted and wrong on so many basis and factual facts. All the defeated tribes, what language were they speaking and from which clans were they from?
You have a point.. The tribe were speaking Xitsonga, everything changed when soshangane came.. Since he easily got into power without killing tribe, the people started identifying themselves as vashagane(meaning of soshangane). That's where this fellow on the video missed. Soshangane is not of tsonga tribe, he's Zulu, his Surname is Nxumalo
u lo xaviwa .I ri Xitsonga i language .xivutiso: isizulu i language ,vanhu lava va vulavuku isizulu va vuriwa yini? se why ka Xitsonga swi jhika? Ku hava Vatsonga mara hi rixaka ra double-barrel. You see, there is no wisdom at all. only lies after lies. He is contradicting himself. #moron .no need to waste time my lord about this man.
Atafuma mani Hikuva ichavile kuhlula vaka nxumalo ....ukuma vuhosi hiku lwa hayi hiti buku .....South Africa defeated apartheid regime due to fight not by talking....
Loko mi valavula hi vukosi byaka Maswanganyi minga rivali the contrbution of apartheid mr Joe Maswanganyi. Hina hitiva ku Maswanganyi was one of the powerful chiefs of his people but he didnt support the Afrikaneers during Anglo-boer war so he was sabbotaged. And just like in KZN where there are 11 kings including King Tembe, King of Amahlubi, Amangwane, Batungwa and few others Mangosuthu Buthelezi decided to recognize his nephew as the only king and zululise everyone and anc later agreed to that, even here in limpopo many people like Hosi Bode and Njhakanjhaka we suppose to be more powerful yet anc continued from where apartheid have stopped
Mzila loko ata a Transvaal he didnt come as a worrior but a refugee after runninga way from his young brother Mawewe. Albasin and Nwamanungu accomodated him aka the great Espilonken or a Xipilongo. Swo ulwe na Mphafuri or Mphaphuli history ya leyo ahibyi tivi.
No Shangaan people must reclaim the Ndwandwe dynasty in KZN. I hate it when the try to bring Shanganism to Tsonga people, but truth be told they were tge most powerful army in Africa. Shaka only defeated them because he was helped by white mercenaries. The Nxumalo tribe tried to claim their kingship in KZN but the zulufication of everyone by the zulu king and mangosuthu buthelezi blocked their moves. In fact there are at least 11 people who have great land in KZN and deserve to be Kings for their people including Amandwandwe where Sochangaan come from, Amahlubi, Amangwane, Amandebele or Batungwa (Mzilikazi Khumalo), and Matonga or Varonga Vatsonga under Tembe. So Tembe deserve to be a King of certain Tsonga grouping called Varhonga. But he cannot be king of Vahlengwe. To simolify what I am saying we can learn from Basotho people, there are Basotho Masweswe under king Mosweswe, there are Bapedi people under Thulare Sekhukhune, And Balobedu under Mojaji who refused to subjugate under Sekhukhune and claim to have more links to Vhavenda. So even in Tsonga nation which might be larger tgan we think because there are our traces in Zambia, DRC, CAR, South Sudan, and Tanzania while Tsongas from Zimbabwe, part of Malawi and Moçambiqué can understand one another when we speak. So making Eric Nxumalo our king while the Zambians never heard if him is an insult to Tsonga nation. He can be a king to Machangani Vatsonga from Mpalanga, but he cannot jump many villages under Vatsonga and claim that Magona and Bevhula are under him, they are not even part of Amanguni they were just chiefs under Amachangaan kingdom in Mozambique but chose to go north instead of going to Mapulaneng
@@hosinkulubetsani6577 Thanks for the information. Are you writing a book? I am busy writing mine about THE KINGSHIP OF VELE RALUSWIELO popularly known as TSHIVHASE. There is a lot of misinformation and political interference. Because I am a Prince within the family I know many issues that commoners who wrote our history left out to suit their narrative. I collecting everything thing that has been passed orally within the family from generations to generations. As I am busy writing, I stumbled on something, THE BALOYI...VHANYAI VHAKALANGA... Maybe one person from that side must tell us about them. What I heard is that they are a clan within the Vendas.
They conquered Tsonga is part of their land as long you're calling yourself mugaza....and niloko uya nan'geni ufika siyavhuma.....niloko uhumela hiswikwembu swivulavula hiraxingoni kuvula swaku un'waku wamunhu
Tsonga grouping is very big hence it will never be easier to trace the dialect that suppose lead us as Kings. It is easier to understand the history of Amachangaan but not that one of Tsonga people. It is somewhat easier to understand hwo Vhangona became Venda people and how other groupings like Mthombeni of the Ndebele became part of Venda groupings as Phafuri or Mphaphuli but it requires time to deal with Tsonga history. For instance, though we now know that bakone or vhangona were natives in this country Tsonga people were the first to arive from central and east Africa. The word Tsonga or Tonga in one of Kiswahili language means East. If you go to as far as South Sudan you will find people who practice similar culture just like us in Giyani. Even the way the dress but their laguage differs though when the speak you can tell they are Tsongas. In Zambia people like Collins Mbesuma speak language similar to Xitsonga so well and u can understand them. So Vanwanati are part of Tsonga people and do qualify to have a Paramount Chief like Mphaphuli and Masingo in Venda.
@@musandasikhwivhilu Maluleke of Mhinga dynasty are South Africans but you can find the Maluleke clans in Zimbabwe and Mozambique, the great Xipenenyana was one of them but refused to surrender the land to Mdungwazi "Nghunghunyani" Nxumalo. So when the other mhinga grouping left the present day Mozambique, he chise to stay
Thulamahashe a khomiwile a baleka anga fambangi na Mpisani. Buyisonto u kumeke atekiwa duting world war 1 ata atalwa a Africa a Namibia. Loko ari kona ukume valungu vanga nwi teka va nwi tisa a South Africa a Elim aka Maswiss. Swiss Mission va nwi yisa a Bush
Ngaze ngajabula ! Mitsakile nkofu, yakhensa kokwana 🙏 Zwide Kalanga Nxumalo Ndwandwe
"Mitsakile nkopfu"?💀haii haii haii your tsonga sounds like you're Zulu.
This one lies with confidence, but good story telling , with some potential information for grabs
Vunwa bya rihlaza tatana Maswanganyi
He talk true
Va le ku rhuketeleni ka Ntiyiso lowu, mara Ntiyiso i ntiyiso awu nge hundzuki wu va Tsonga😂😂😂😂😂
wa hemba mina ni mutsonga tso
According to me Matsonga machangana iri xaka rinwe
Can we make a documentary.
Hail Joe Maswanganyi the man who truly knows without being bias the Tsonga-Shangaan history. Our king is the warrior king NXUMALO
VIVA TATANA JOE MASWANGANYI
I ntiyiso WO tiya swinene he knows the Shangaan -'Tsonga history , vanhu I machangana vavulavula Xitsonga , kuhava king ya vatsonga kuna king ya machangana , kunga Soshangana Nxumalo
Imithente
Aku na ntiyiso aka Joe Maswanganyi, if a tiva history he will know kuri Nwamanungu Siweya hi yena Hosinkulu ya Vatsonga vahaleni aka the so called Transvaal. Vo Njhakanjhaka iti Paramount Chiefs navo Mhinga.
Hisvona @@jeremiahmabasa69
@hosinkulubetsani6577yikwi kingdom yakona ..... Hina hitiva. Kingdom yaka nxumalo
Ma hi pengela he ngwenya why loko ku ngari na ma tsonga
Xitsonga xiri ka National
Why Xitsonga Xi dyondziwa a xikolweni
Vuma surname is also a zulu surname and the is a place called ngwa Vuma in KZN so how did soshangane defeat the Vuma people if he came with them out of Kzn. Please help
Vamos todos voltar as nossas origens, é chegada a hora!!
Vuka Gaza!
Maswanganyi onge valava ku dyondzisiwa. Rixaka ira Vatsonga kambe ku na tigroup to hambanana ta Vatsonga. Ku namachangaan a Bush a Mpumalanga nale ka Magona na Bevhula. And few a Gaza province. Votala Giyani ahi Machangaan
Hi Machangana hinkwenu loko munhu abiwile ubiwile
Vatsonga ivomani
Vatsonga ivomani
Voce so pode ser maluco. Tsonga nao se trata de pessoas, mas sim lingua. Nao ha machangaan de Bush, voces tambem de Giyani sao machanganas
wa hemba o bisa kuyini.
Joào Albasin and Nwamanungu never subjected to Soshangaan. In fact Soshangaan had problems with the Portuguese because he was using plough to irrigate the land instead yo tirhisa xikomu and Portuguese did not approve of that
Well spoken ❤
Baka Ndlovu ke?
Ha khensa pro se hiti humesin tyaken rero ram dlayi yaloye
Tsonga people existed long soshangana.
Since south Africa was under the colony of British does it mean that we are British?
Lot of wrongs.
Aswifani boti
i agree with you aim not Shangaan, but tsonga, i accept the defeat , but doesn't make me Shangaan
Is not about existed is about conquering
We gave your forefathers serious hiding 😆
This history is distorted and wrong on so many basis and factual facts. All the defeated tribes, what language were they speaking and from which clans were they from?
Kindly provide the rebuttal
You can say that again, yi hlayiwe as if volava position kwale ka Nxumalo.
You have a point.. The tribe were speaking Xitsonga, everything changed when soshangane came.. Since he easily got into power without killing tribe, the people started identifying themselves as vashagane(meaning of soshangane). That's where this fellow on the video missed. Soshangane is not of tsonga tribe, he's Zulu, his Surname is Nxumalo
@hosinkulubetsani6577 shangani defeated and his kingdom of Gaza ....in south Africa there was gazankulu
@leonardndlovu6317not Zulu .....that's why he left kwazulu to Mozambique coz he refuse to fall under Zulu....he is Ndandwe
HI HANYE KHALE#
Aka Mabudu(Maputo) aku fuma Tembe and ahi tsunduki ku ve na nyimpi between Tembe na Manukose. Varhonga ava lwangi na Soshangaan
Tembe is a nguni surname lol... Kasi why MI Ala ku vuriwa machangana with proof and evidence
Muronga I muthonga
I wish that l can understand what he is saying why do they not translate in to English or zulu so that we can all understand
Are you zulu
He is talking About the history of ndandwes durng the reign of ngunngunyane
@@azaniabantu yes and you?
thyaka ntsena, ku phutisa Vatsonga.He is not our king .He is Joe's king
Hikombi byaka n'wina vuhosi ....ibyaka nxumalo
u lo xaviwa .I ri Xitsonga i language .xivutiso: isizulu i language ,vanhu lava va vulavuku isizulu va vuriwa yini? se why ka Xitsonga swi jhika? Ku hava Vatsonga mara hi rixaka ra double-barrel. You see, there is no wisdom at all. only lies after lies. He is contradicting himself. #moron .no need to waste time my lord about this man.
Tsonga is a coined word same like Shona is a coined but not ethnicity
eeee ku lu kumba loyi wa hemba sure...Maluleke a nga hluriwangi na ka tsongo va kokwani va hina va nyikile matimu ya ka maluleke
Nxumalo conquered Gaza nations
Swatuisiseka suaku matchangana ya África dzonga ni ya Moçambique, Vana matimu manue.
Swa twisiseka ku machangani ya Afrika Dzonga na yale Musambiki vani matimu man'we. Wa switwa jaha?
Ka le swati History ku tele ku hembelana. Strong
Mukhlume khalhe
Soshangaan angayangi aka Mandlakazi u ake Mandlakazi
Ehh Ya hemba boti leyy heh
Unge hembi wa fika lani😂
Vaka Siweya angava ava bile mara Nwamanungu hi yena afanelaka ava Hosi ya Vatsonga
Vuking ibyaka Nxumalo hambi hoyini no yini
Atafuma mani Hikuva ichavile kuhlula vaka nxumalo ....ukuma vuhosi hiku lwa hayi hiti buku .....South Africa defeated apartheid regime due to fight not by talking....
Vu King ha byi lava but kungevi Nxumalo
You are Mashangane
Ya lawa matimu a hi wona kuri hina hi huma eka mazulu na swi ala
Awu humi kamachangana miyohluliwa himachangana
Khoisan conquered by dutch .....they fell under kingdom of dutch but they don't come from dutch lineage
don't forget there were group who ran from the Gaza kingdom so as not to be recognized as such. you are only a Christian if you accept
vendas are speaking chivenda
zulus are speaking isizulu
pedis are speaking sepedi
so leswi mi swi vulavulaku mkhulu i mjamjamu
Shangani is a mornachy not language ....language is Tsonga
Loko mi valavula hi vukosi byaka Maswanganyi minga rivali the contrbution of apartheid mr Joe Maswanganyi. Hina hitiva ku Maswanganyi was one of the powerful chiefs of his people but he didnt support the Afrikaneers during Anglo-boer war so he was sabbotaged. And just like in KZN where there are 11 kings including King Tembe, King of Amahlubi, Amangwane, Batungwa and few others Mangosuthu Buthelezi decided to recognize his nephew as the only king and zululise everyone and anc later agreed to that, even here in limpopo many people like Hosi Bode and Njhakanjhaka we suppose to be more powerful yet anc continued from where apartheid have stopped
0u o'clock the profile him if
Mzila loko ata a Transvaal he didnt come as a worrior but a refugee after runninga way from his young brother Mawewe. Albasin and Nwamanungu accomodated him aka the great Espilonken or a Xipilongo. Swo ulwe na Mphafuri or Mphaphuli history ya leyo ahibyi tivi.
The Shangaans should claim Kingship in Mozambique.
No Shangaan people must reclaim the Ndwandwe dynasty in KZN. I hate it when the try to bring Shanganism to Tsonga people, but truth be told they were tge most powerful army in Africa. Shaka only defeated them because he was helped by white mercenaries. The Nxumalo tribe tried to claim their kingship in KZN but the zulufication of everyone by the zulu king and mangosuthu buthelezi blocked their moves. In fact there are at least 11 people who have great land in KZN and deserve to be Kings for their people including Amandwandwe where Sochangaan come from, Amahlubi, Amangwane, Amandebele or Batungwa (Mzilikazi Khumalo), and Matonga or Varonga Vatsonga under Tembe. So Tembe deserve to be a King of certain Tsonga grouping called Varhonga. But he cannot be king of Vahlengwe. To simolify what I am saying we can learn from Basotho people, there are Basotho Masweswe under king Mosweswe, there are Bapedi people under Thulare Sekhukhune, And Balobedu under Mojaji who refused to subjugate under Sekhukhune and claim to have more links to Vhavenda. So even in Tsonga nation which might be larger tgan we think because there are our traces in Zambia, DRC, CAR, South Sudan, and Tanzania while Tsongas from Zimbabwe, part of Malawi and Moçambiqué can understand one another when we speak. So making Eric Nxumalo our king while the Zambians never heard if him is an insult to Tsonga nation. He can be a king to Machangani Vatsonga from Mpalanga, but he cannot jump many villages under Vatsonga and claim that Magona and Bevhula are under him, they are not even part of Amanguni they were just chiefs under Amachangaan kingdom in Mozambique but chose to go north instead of going to Mapulaneng
@@hosinkulubetsani6577 Thanks for the information. Are you writing a book? I am busy writing mine about THE KINGSHIP OF VELE RALUSWIELO popularly known as TSHIVHASE. There is a lot of misinformation and political interference. Because I am a Prince within the family I know many issues that commoners who wrote our history left out to suit their narrative. I collecting everything thing that has been passed orally within the family from generations to generations. As I am busy writing, I stumbled on something, THE BALOYI...VHANYAI VHAKALANGA... Maybe one person from that side must tell us about them. What I heard is that they are a clan within the Vendas.
@@musandasikhwivhilu not at all Musanda, but I keep learning about Africa looking particularly south.
@@hosinkulubetsani6577I'm impressed 🙌🏾💪🏾👌🏾
They conquered Tsonga is part of their land as long you're calling yourself mugaza....and niloko uya nan'geni ufika siyavhuma.....niloko uhumela hiswikwembu swivulavula hiraxingoni kuvula swaku un'waku wamunhu
Pfutsekeeeeeeeeee wenaaaaaa maswanganyi wo phuta
Who are the Tonga
Tonga people are Tsongas they are found in Tanzania, part of Zambia and Binga area in Zimbabwe but their language and ours are no konger the same.
@@hosinkulubetsani6577 Of which nationality are The Maluleke, Xikundu etc. I thought they are TSONGA
Tsonga grouping is very big hence it will never be easier to trace the dialect that suppose lead us as Kings. It is easier to understand the history of Amachangaan but not that one of Tsonga people. It is somewhat easier to understand hwo Vhangona became Venda people and how other groupings like Mthombeni of the Ndebele became part of Venda groupings as Phafuri or Mphaphuli but it requires time to deal with Tsonga history. For instance, though we now know that bakone or vhangona were natives in this country Tsonga people were the first to arive from central and east Africa. The word Tsonga or Tonga in one of Kiswahili language means East. If you go to as far as South Sudan you will find people who practice similar culture just like us in Giyani. Even the way the dress but their laguage differs though when the speak you can tell they are Tsongas. In Zambia people like Collins Mbesuma speak language similar to Xitsonga so well and u can understand them. So Vanwanati are part of Tsonga people and do qualify to have a Paramount Chief like Mphaphuli and Masingo in Venda.
@@musandasikhwivhilu Maluleke of Mhinga dynasty are South Africans but you can find the Maluleke clans in Zimbabwe and Mozambique, the great Xipenenyana was one of them but refused to surrender the land to Mdungwazi "Nghunghunyani" Nxumalo. So when the other mhinga grouping left the present day Mozambique, he chise to stay
@@hosinkulubetsani6577 Are they TSONGA or Shangaans
Hina hi vatsonga hi vulavula xitsonga tshikani kuhi tambela n'wina
🤣🤣🤣 spot on
Thulamahashe a khomiwile a baleka anga fambangi na Mpisani. Buyisonto u kumeke atekiwa duting world war 1 ata atalwa a Africa a Namibia. Loko ari kona ukume valungu vanga nwi teka va nwi tisa a South Africa a Elim aka Maswiss. Swiss Mission va nwi yisa a Bush
He never conquar Masingiri so hi nga kwatisani
Utiva yini why masingiri yiri ka gaza
@@azaniabantuzulu next time uta vutisa loko hungu ea kona ra hari hot. What are you talking about?
No no no
Chauke is tsonga not shangani
Tsonga is not a clan ...Tsonga doesn't belong to anyone ....Is a coined word brought by tsan'wisi to refer to the Gaza nation