Urtopia Carbon E-Bike Review - $2.8k
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- The Urtopia Carbon E-Bike is a comfort-oriented road bike with lightweight carbon frame, fork, handlebar, and seat post. Single speed drivetrain is clean and quiet with Gates CDN belt drive. Available in two frame sizes and three color schemes. Custom dot-matrix LED display panel with voice control, fingerprint ID locking, optional smartphone app. Modest 250 watt 35nm geared hub motor is compact and quiet, paired with the bottom bracket torque sensor it performs above-average. Downtube-integrated battery pack is removable, offers decent range , refills quickly with 4 amp charger. Extra bright integrated front and rear lights are positioned well. Two side lights project turn signal arrows onto the street for even greater visibility and safety. Decent 160mm hydraulic disc brakes stop well and offer adjustable-reach levers. High-step frame is tall, and could be difficult for some to mount and stand over. No bottle cage bosses, limited attachment points for accessories like a rear rack and fenders. Voice commands didn't work well when moving. Custom stem, handlebar, and seat post might not work with aftermarket parts such as a suspension seatpost.
0:00 Introduction, weight, 2 frame sizes, 3 color options
1:12 Founder story, pricing details, warranty details
1:48 Custom carbon fork and seat post, upgrade limitations
2:41 Gates Carbon CDN belt drive, motor, torque sensor, drivetrain
3:43 Hubs, wheelset, and tire details, limited mounting points
4:48 High standover and minimum saddle height, internal cabling
5:37 Quick release front, sliding dropout rear, compact motor
5:54 Battery pack position, stats, shown off-bike, charger
6:55 Class 1 pedal assist ebike, can pedal faster with no drag
7:44 Hydraulic disc brakes 160mm rotors, no kickstand
8:35 Powering the bike on, display panel walkthrough
10:15 Headlight and rear light test, turn signals, finger ID lock
11:53 Launching and exploring the optional smartphone app
13:29 Ride test begins in daylight, hill climb at night
17:14 Conclusion, website details, compare and forums
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UPDATE: Urtopia sells a kickstand, mudguards, and their own special water bottle cage on their website here: newurtopia.com/collections/accessories
Thx for the review. Food for thought for sure if/when I decide to buy an e-bike.
Thanks a bunch for the review. I just bought one and am waiting to get it. I feel much better about my purchase now.
How is it
I haven’t watched your channel since 2020 when the pandemic hit. 200k subscribers now. Congrats.
Thanks Steve, I've been working consistently to cover a range of ebikes and improve the site over time. Appreciate your note :)
Great review, thanks! They offer water bottle cage now, for $39. It mounts below the "Elbow"
I'll wait for the 28 mph version. And a normalized handle bar that wont snap when it hits the ground, from the front tire washing out on sand or ice.
I'm definitely rooting for this company to succeed because that is an otherwise awesomely featured bike!
The way they named it "Carbon E-Bike" made me feel like this was their only design. I hope they have plans beyond this or can refine it. I wonder if the next one will be "Carbon E-Bike 2" or something :P
Was waiting for this one.
Great video nicely done.
Clean and desirable. Price is not in the forbidden zone and if it lasts a good 3-4 years after daily commuter use, then you probably will have come out ahead; it’s a high tech affordable premium bike with a specific target audience where the notion of keeping it for ten years is not on the checklist. Elon Musk’s Tesla E Bike will probably co-opt this bike. Great review!
I opted for the chain drive version with the 350-Watt motor. The kickstand makes a great add-on. The additional fenders are quite effective in avoiding mud and splash. Worth Every Penny! The Heads-Up Display will give turn by turn directions. It is not necessary to watch your phone. The UI is VERY easy to understand.
This is a very good bike for this price in its niche market. Light weight and good parts. Looks amazing and stealthy. 32kmh is more than enough.
Well said, I agree with you. It's neat to see a designer put so much energy and money into creating something new and special. I think it turned out pretty well.
Dude, I really like this....some quibbles but I would ride this all day.....I just find it very appealing
It's fun to ride for sure, they did a great job with it. Are you in Vancouver Canada by any chance? We could meetup and you could try it out.
Despite its quirks, this bike is very intriguing. Carbon fiber at this price point? Pretty cool. I love the turn signals! And I think there's probably a phone mount for this somewhere that would work. The right handlebar seems to have enough space for a well-designed, adjustable mount. Thanks Court!
You're welcome Tom! Yeah, I think there are definitely ways to get the phone setup. It's really special to see something like this, it turned out great for the price... even if there are a few little things that could be refined :)
What I like, is what I don't like. Carbon keeps the weight down, but if something goes wrong and you need maintenance, where do you go for help? Many of us like to upgrade parts or customize our bikes. This bike seems to have limitations for that. If you need to use this to bring home stuff from the store, maybe a backpack would be the answer.
My brief opinions for who this bike would be for;
If you live in an area few steep hills.
You may need to carry your bike upstairs to your work or home.
You're the kind of person who just want a bike to ride and don't care about upgrades.
I like the bike but it is very difficult to get a true sense of its ability to take on hills with a significant grade of 10-15%. You didn't really offer any specifics in this regard. Can you elaborate perhaps? it seems that the torque is likely too low to climb hills of 10-15% without a ton of effort. I live in a very hilly city and this is my main concern. Thoughts?
Thanks Cort!
You're welcome Robert, did my best to explore the bike and share. Happy Friday :D
I would buy this bike, frame only, because I've noticed how special the BB is...you could fit a Bafang mid drive INSIDE the frame...I'm assuming that is a 68mm hollowtec BB....then that fram looks like you could inverse mount a BBS02/HD
Does it come with battery or you have to separately purchase the battery??
I'll wait for the 32mph version or other maker brand?
can you please tell me what you would pick as the most reliable best bang for $4000 us or less (if I really have to go to 5,000 us I will, for someone who weighs 275 lbs, pretty much the max weight for a lot of these bikes and who will do mostly flat bike rides on the beach paths. a brand that will be around for awhile would be great. i've thought of bixtrix, specialized, serial 1, but not sure if i should even wait till next year where i think technology on these bikes are all going to get much better, just like it did this year from last year. your thoughts? thank you.....love your channel.
In the 4k range if you want a more relaxed ride a gazelle arroyo c8 might be a good fit for you
Are you familiar with Okai e bikes? Okai makes the Ranger e bike which looks pretty cool with an integrated display and an app you can download. Looked a little different with some nice features. Maybe you should check it out.
Its exactly what I wanted
I was hopping you would do a test on a steeper hill (around 20 grade).
I would put the red sticky film over the screen something I could see through but make it a bit more dim
It's interesting that it doesn't come with a water bottle mount. But I just thought about how I rarely ride my current with water bottle, mainly because I never feel tired or dehydrated when I riding. It feels more like I'm driving a car.
Single speed, no puncture protection, no carrier?
I'd love to test ride it, but I can't see buying it.
are you planning on reviewing the Vanmoof S5 when it releases?
I thought the screen gives you step by step directions. It doesn’t do that?
It took me all summer to get my new cannondale bike adjusted so it is comfortable. No way would I purchase a bike that is non adjustable.
No water bottle screws was quite the strange oversight for so much engineering
Nice, I’m intrigued. Nice fit and finish, but no built-in rack sux
Yeah, I always feel like the option to add racks, fenders, and a bottle cage is nice. Riding for fun is great, but it's cool if the bike can double as a commuting platform or grocery getter. For me, the unique frame aesthetic doesn't outweigh the drop in utility.
For casual road riding, why not get a Propella single speed ebike, 35 lbs, for $899? I have a 7 speed and I love it. Since I live in a flat area, I wish I had gotten the fixed speed. It's fast enough for me, about 19 mph. Due to my age and back, I ended up getting a riser bar.
Belt drive, is priceless. Chain maintenance is blah
It's a pretty good bike with some unique features, wish it had a bit more power and quality of life features for that price.
Thank you for a good review. I ordered the second generation Carbon One with upgraded 7 speeds and a 350w motor. I should be receiving the Carbon One this month around the 10th - 15th. Can’t wait. Had to drive 250 miles to a bike shop that had a Carbon One demo to test ride and loved it. I tested so many e-bikes and some were good and others ok. My biggest problem with so many Urban e-bikes there are too heavy and don’t go that far. During my test ride with the Carbon One had no issues with distance, wind, uphills, or comfortability. The seven gears does make a big difference when facing hills and wind. May I add the Urtopia has been amazing throughout the process before buying and afterwards. Yeah, there are times corresponding through emails I may have to wait a few days for a response, but the overall communication has been top notch. I can’t really say if they’re cons about the company or e-bike, non in my experience. Again, I am only referencing to the 2nd gen Carbon One, not the one in this video.
FYI, Urtopia also has an another e-bike, “The Chord.” The Chord has the exact same features as the Carbon One with the exception of the carbon frame and looks. But, all is the same as the Carbon One with intelligent LCD panel, seven gears, and 350w motor. after the discount code, The Chord is only $1,399 (US). Plus, The Chord weighs less than 47lbs. and the Chord longest range is 75 miles (normal condition, body weight, and paddling assist on level one). The Chord will soon to ship in mid of May 2023.
So, I highly recommend Urtopia Carbon One or The Chord. Lastly, Urtopia has not sponsored me in any way. This is 100% experience I had so far with the company and during my test ride with Carbon One
So you got it and any problems?
How is it
Nice bike, needs options. Some people will love the simplicity, others will want: mounting points for rack, fenders, bottle cage.
The integrated display is scary, if it breaks, how much to replace? Prefer a display not built-in to the handlebars/stem.
Add option for more power with internal gears (I know price jumps $1k).
Well said Steven, I agree with all of your points... and I'm not sure the voice commands really improve the experience for me. Some of the choices just didn't land, but the low price, multiple sizes, integrated battery, torque sensor, hydraulic disc brakes, and light weight are all winners :D
Why redesign a seat post? Is there something wrong with a regular seat post?
It seems like a design decision. I'm not an engineer, but the "pounce" or "lunge" look of the top tube that connects to the seat stays probably does not offer the same strength as a seat tube would. It limits how low the saddle could go (if their seat post would allow it), and eliminates the traditional bottle cage mounting point... although I did discover that Urtopia makes their own proprietary bottle cage that mounts to the area just below the seat tube. So, you have to spend extra to get their cage. They also make their own mudguard options. All listed here, which I did not discover before filming the review unfortunately: electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/ev-global-motors/
what kind of glasses are those?
You need to do more e-trikes
I would like that, seems like I don't have a lot of options where I'm at right now (Vancouver Canada). If you know a shop or person with trikes up here, please let me know. I'll be traveling and hope to cover more of those next year though :D
looks terrific - if they make a smaller version for a 5'6"
They just added a small frame bike. For 5'3-5'6
your bike sounds complicated you've got a simple one?
They’ve updated this bike with gearing.
will they ship to the uk
Good question Juan, I believe they do ship to "Europe" but hadn't confirmed the UK. Might check their website and ask support newurtopia.com/
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
i was interested in getting this bike BUT this can't handle the mountains in Pennsylvania, for sure
Oh yeah, not sure this thing would hold up well on gravel... let alone single track. Neat concept, and pretty good for smooth roads :)
I still got evil kanevil bicycle from 1978 with the banana seat and the Sissy bars yes we're bored to me and this thing is
Pretty sure EBR is patient Eric buell racing
I reached out to them many years ago, because they own ebr.com and I was interested in buying it. Sounds like the company was sold by the founder, and I wasn't able to reach anyone at the top. Many companies use EBR letters, including Electric Bike Report. I designed the logo you see on the videos, and the bike logo in my avatar. I'm also a fan of Eric Buell Racing, so it would be fun to meet their team and founder someday!
I never downshift on hills on any bike.
When I saw that price I couldn't stop laughing
A gorgeous bike, but no rear rack or water bottle cage capability is a deal breaker for me. I’ll stick with my Trek DS4.
I don't think I've ever seen a top-end road bike that had a kickstand. Based on one of the reviews for low, it sounds like they've solved the water bottle problem. So, I don't see anything about the bike that is problematic.
Really a lot for the price
I agree, it's above average in a lot of ways... and they do sell their own fenders, bottle cage, and kickstand which adds some utility that I thought was missing: newurtopia.com/collections/accessories
Excellent review. Intriguing bike. The manufacturer should refine this bike by adopting all your suggestions. For me, the handlebars should be adjustable, it should have gears, should be able to mount panniers, fenders should be optional, it should come was kickstand, and the cutesy obnoxious display sounds should be able to be turned off. With these refinements I would consider purchasing this bike.
Thanks for the encouragement of my insights and ideas. Even though the price seems decent here, I just wanted to highlight some of the trade-offs that I noticed. Overall, the comfort was good, and it was exciting to see their creativity in making a brand new "smart" electric bike ;)
I dare you bounce up and down on that damn thing for an hour. You'll crack that rear wheel joint - guaranteed. Torsion forces are a thing.
I built a fantastic electric bike with 70 mile range for $1400...
hello, what bike did you buy? It sounds like something I'm interested in!
I agree deets?
Too many proprietary parts. Wouldn't work for me. Looks like a concept bike which hasn't been finalized.
I agree with you Dominic, the proprietary parts and upgrade limitations give me pause. I see how it allows the design to be unique and different... but I'm not sure the trade-off in utility is quite worth it for me. Still, fun to ride around and exciting to see. Maybe with a few refinements it would start to be worth it.
Stuck with one seat post, can’t change gears, can’t change handlebars, no shocks, have to purchase new handlebars to replace the display, have to purchase a kickstand separately, can’t mount a rack to carry saddle bags for long distance and no throttle. Sounds like a bargain NOT!!! I’ll stick to my Himiway thank you. 😂
A throttle is essential equipment especially when starting off on green lights etc. Needs a rack. This could be the perfect "everything" bike with some more accessories.
No gears, and no handlebar/stem adjustment is a deal-breaker.
And "Who" is gonna ride a bike with a long coat?
A pretty toy, not a commuter.
Lol
i think the headlight kinda stinks.
How would you change and improve it? To me, the performance ended up being pretty good once it got dark :)
@@ElectricBikeReview i couldn't improve the light. i would hope that the handlebar would be such that i can add one of the 3 lights i bought off the internet. i think the brightest is between 800 lumens and 1000.
No fenders. And everything else about this bike makes it the most unappealing contraption I've ever seen.
No gears? Utopia. Don't like it
I hate all those weird designs. What If you buy it and its company will go bancrupt or even stop making parts 2 years after releasing new model. I wonder what hapens if you crack your handlebar or seatpost tube. Cant fix that thing at all. Many people still ride fixies on 40 years old frames, this thing will go to trash after first failure or crash.
weak motor
👎
Bs bike
Gimmick to me.
My thoughts too. If I won that bike, i would sell it. They should of designed it w/o all the techno garbage and made it with more traditional features.
I felt that way on first sight (images) but then I watched the unboxing video and saw all of the care. The voice thing is mixed, not sure the frame had to be so fancy that it's incompatible with standard seat posts, stems, and handlebar... but then again, they really pushed the envelope to create something special. Can't fault them for trying, maybe the next iteration will fine tune and it will get better over time :)
This bike was an absolute nightmare..do not buy it
It's an absolute nightmare
Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.