@@mr.e2962 idk I've never tried to inspire those emotions myself. But it's definitely possible. The love could perhaps come from a respect of the person, or an appreciation of all the good things they have done and their good nature. The fear could come from a knowledge of that person's authority, and their willingness to use it to harsh effect if you disrespect, disobey, or step out of line in any way. The Church does it with God I think, where you're supposed to be both "god-fearing" and loving of god simultaneously. It's a dynamic in traditional father-son relationships from what I've heard. I'm not sure which is better to cultivate first, personally I lean more towards fear. Fear is safer on its own than love, then once you're secure in that you can use a softer hand, and the subject will be grateful and adoring to you for the relief. By contrast cultivating love first is a more insecure position, and once you have to instil fear it is probably much more likely to instil resentment in the subject, who will probably feel a sense of betrayal.
honestly this channel is underrated as a resource for writers. only an amateur in what I do, but videos like this are good starting points for portraying characters with problematic personalities in a convincing, believable, and comprehensible way. thank you!
I remember scoring “High-Mach” on a Machiavellian test at school and liking his book “The Prince”, but I typically don’t go out of my way to be Machiavellian. Truthfully, I just want a peacful life to do things I wanna do
Wow, me too, but I like “48 rules of power” it kinda felt like home, like happy that someone understood that there is another tactic, by nonetheless it made me not alone.
Same here. I too have read the Prince and excerpts of the 48 Laws of Power. I’m an INFJ and when I took the Dark Triad test, I scored extremely low for Psychopathy and Narcissism but scored higher on Machiavelianism with a 62%. It’s interesting because I don’t think the suggestions in this video really fit me. I don’t go about gossiping about other people, I’m not that competitive to point where I hurt other relationships, I don’t use insincere flattery (I try to be irrevocable with my word most of the time), and I’m not regularly manipulative. Could I do those things? Sure but there’s no value to it. All of those characteristics listed in video sound more indicative to Narcism rather than Machiavelianism. For me, Machiavellian strategy isn’t really about being villainous or grabbing power but rather using survival strategies, understanding circumstances, and being street smart.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 I agree with you, after all why use every force you have when your only getting a little portion of it. At first I thought having a Machiavellian personality is a bad thing but you shed a little light that it may not be the case. If we are talking to mbti is it common for infj? Because I’m intj and I’m not well informed about Mbti right now.
@@Why-nv2js Probably not. I don’t thinks it’s innate for INFJ’s to be Machiavelianian. I think Machiavelianism is actually a learned trait and that any personality is capable of it. For me, it started as a child. I came from divorced parents and lived most of my formative years with my mom who was an abusive Narcissist. Thankfully, I had an intervention as my dad got me out of that environment but when I went to live with him, I came with cluster B traits. While most of them have gone away through counseling, my parents noticed that I was capable of being opportunistic during my teens. I think it really came from watching my moms behavior. While she didn’t directly sit me down and tell me “okay son this is how you can be manipulative. Now go and do it like a good doggy”. It was more like she was regularly exploitative and that I picked up on those cues regarding its effects on specific circumstances. I don’t know how other people became Machiavellian.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 well in my case, when I was elementary grade 2 where I transferred school to private school. It was my first time meeting them and I was happy to meet my classmates family even the other teacher. My mom said that I was bright emphatic kid. But it all went down. The first time I was accused of touching her pp, mind you at that time I don’t know what they were talking about. And my mother interrogated me for a week, it felt torture as no one is coming to comfort me, even my father is busy at his stocks. Because of it I felt despair as no one is here to comfort me. And later on I was mentally drained and I comply everything they accused me of. After that one of my teacher used this opportunity to alienate me and hove more nice view on himself, but I didn’t think it was bad, because it helps them to have more connections to the classmates. But he is a good teacher as he is the only teacher I could play and have fun, rather than the other teacher using there harsh words and their disgusted view. Thanks to this I’ve been alone for a decade, right now I’m trying to fix myself, but it’s hard to change your habit that’s been with you for a decade. Because of this I’m only good at math, science and civic because this teacher are really nice, but the rest I suck because of there treatments on me. Basically I’m afraid of people who are easily misinformed or manipulated, as they will cut ties with you without a warning, maybe that’s the reason why I’m afraid of having a real friend, when you’re surrounded with people who are easily manipulated. As it could damage me and my other connections. I guess I felt relief that there are Machiavellian out there, so that I could understand if I did wrong to other people. When I was a kid they have a negative point of me because of my race, I guess that time they were racist, but I didn’t believe that they were racist, because I had a classmates of multiracial people, it made me have a good view on humanity, and I didn’t believe about racism at that time, I don’t see different about there face and race, but until I went to the private school it felt I was the different it felt as if there league is different from me. Even to this day I’m afraid of people.
🚨Well done! Sometimes we can't avoid people with this kind of behaviour for example at work. Combatting Machiavellianism by being authentic. The most important advice is to remember our core values and to adhere to principles and set objectives that meet these values. Focus on displaying our positive personality traits and strengthen our own self-worth.
The scariest thing about machiavellianism is that, unlike other dark triad personalities, such type of behaviour actually makes sence and really beneficial. Or is it just me? :O
@@MrCurlz no at the end of the day people will hate you for choosing work over friends, and try to make me look like the bad guy even when I’m not using any other of those tools so now, I just don’t care when I use all the tools in my disposal.
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The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
The ironic sad part of "Machiavellianism", is that Machiavelli was demonized for his observations and recording them down. The common interpretation of his work is basically, "This is how to be the villain." However, rephrase this interpretation to, "Dear reader, if you see these traits, this is someone who is acting villainously!", then you get something very different. His work comes across more as a warning and a 'red flag' system for anyone to look for, kind of like a 'training manual for whistleblowers' in some ways. I'm more inclines to describe someone who has a 'Machiavelli' personality type as one that is extremely observant and analytical, rather than manipulative and villainous. How would you confront, or help someone who is going through 'Machiavellianism', or is doing it, but unaware of it?
I think you’re on point about the “Prince” serving more as a warning for future politicians and about a Machiavellian being more observant analytical than villainous. I feel that this video failed capture that and that most characteristics listed out are more indicative to Narcissism or Malignant Narcissism rather than Machiavelianism. When I took the Dark Triad test, I scored low on every thing else but came out as a High Machiavellian but I don’t really do the things suggested in this video.
Hello! I just wanted to say thank you. I'm going through a confusing and rough phase of my life, and only recently found this channel. Hearing your calm voice has given me comfort I haven't had anywhere else, and that is helping me a lot. This might not have anything to do with this video in specific, but I just wanted to comment this on the newest one so you would be more likely to see it.
Makima, Griffith, Homelander, Omni-Man, Stormfront, Junko Enoshima, and many others are chilling examples of these…fiction just gave them superpowers or in Junko’s case, a whole lot of money and a massive ego.
Kisaki from Tokyo Revengers is a great example too, he's very smart but uses his perceptiveness and adaptability to manipulate people from behind the scenes and to turn them against each other for his own gains and influence.
@@KitsuNerezza And then there’s also Light Yagami and Yuno Gasai (Future Diary) and both of them are basically anime versions of The Joker without the clown motif.
Fun fact, Machiavellian himself whom this term is named after was in reality just a pragmatist. He believed that democracy/republicanism was the ideal thing, but simultaneously believed that an autocratic king might be what was needed to unite Italy into a singular kingdom so that a republic may arise. Basically a person who wanted the best, but accepted that more nefarious means might be required for the end goal
I work with a female and a male who exhibit these traits to a freggin TEE!!!!!……Always in everyone else’s business (needlessly), sucking up to the bosses, talks behind everyone else’s back, bullies to make themselves look good…Just rotten people, but weak if you really call them out! Most of us in the company avoid them like the plague….Ironically, they both are best friends…LOL. One recently got voted into a “meager” position within our Union, while the other one manipulated workers into voting for “his” candidate…😏. Both spread lies, and manipulated a lot of young workers into those votes…….Glad I watched the video.
I loved that this video used Walter White as an example ti be capable 9f relating w Ith due to it being such a largely watched series on TV . Best series I've ever seen before hands down and it made along with the illustration fun to watch . Good job Phyc2go . 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I was hoping this video would list reasons why the tests I've taken were faulty seeing as though I always scored so highly in Machiovellianism. Instead, I just feel incredibly called out. I never hurt anybody, though. I swear I'm a great person
I was married for 12 years to someone with the traits of a Machiavellean. He was also a covert narcissist. I am a gentle, sensitive and highly sensitive person. The marriage nearly destroyed every aspect of my health. I escaped one year ago, and am now dealing with the aftermath, which includes complex post traumatic stress disorder. Please let this be a warning!
My situation is identical to yours. I was married for 13 years, he left me 2 years ago once he'd acquired my life savings, a substantial amount of money. He also took my home. I have CPTSD, and have become a recluse because i feel ashamed that i was so gullable. I wish you well in your recovery.
referring to someone as a machavellean and self diagnosing them with a personality disorder.. you come off as clueless and toxic. No one can be a machavillian. You can be scaled low or high with machavilliasm. It's not a disorder. Anyone can be scaled for machavilliasm. Personality disorders like npd have to evualted by professionals. Bipolar, ADHD and alcholism have to be ruled out or comorbid to be diagnosed with it. It's not determined by how toxic or crappy of a partner they are. Anyone can be that way without any disorder playing a role.
Machiavelli gets a bad rap these days. “The Prince” was basically just a handbook for lower-level royalty figures during the Renaissance period on how to avoid being assassinated
This is a really insightful and amazing video🖤 I have power hungry coworkers and it’s terrible dealing with them:( I’m going to use the advice in this video and avoid them.
I know a family infested with both covert and overt narcissists. It's either they're infallible or the woe is me type who claim to be the most victimized in history and would down play the struggles of others, even if they are kids dying of cancer, while refusing to help themselves or seek help.
I’ve seen stories of people being machiavellians. The problem is they think they’re on top level of everything and think they get can get away with anything, no matter how it affects others. That’s just how I see it.
I mean this is pretty accurate. People are often foolish. Behind almost every action lies an irashinal emotion which makes it easy to manipulate someone if you know which strings to pull. People with traits from the dark triad are actually a lot harder to point out. They tend to mix pretty well in crowd.
You guys upload some really interesting stuff! I'm working on a story where the main character fits the descriptions of a highly sensitive person that I've seen on this channel to a T, and while at first I thought of the villain in that story as a narcissist, now I think he might be more Machiavellian.
I never really had friends most ppl just took advantage of me my whole childhood and yet they are dying now of natural bad decisions I am thriving so many options a writer, a regular job so many simple possibilities
The only reason I clicked on the video because "machiavellian" was in that taylor swift song mastermind. Thank you miss swift for always increasing my vocabulary.
hi psych2go! i have really appreciated your videos, and they are very informative and have really helped my self-reflect I wanted to ask you if you could do a small talk on why people perceive others differently from what they actually are ex. “I am an introvert, but all my friends say I am an extrovert.” just an idea and wanted to put it out there because I have never seen many people do videos on this ❤
This is gonna be very helpful for breaking down the Cardinal’s character in ‘The Duchess of Malfi’, that we’re studying🙌🏻 But psychologically, this is really good to figure out such people. My introvert self be like “People? Retreat to safe zone!!”
Sadly I live with one. My fiancee's mother has 3 out of 4 of the traits. But I have 4. So she and I go back and forth. My life in this house would be a great drama that's for sure. So many stories I could write about. And believe me I would so love to write on what has happened in the last 14 years. That's how long me and my fiancee has been together for
@@yasmeen9592 I do know how I act but I do try my best not to manipulate her and try to protect her and my children. It's interesting life day to day. Kind of nuts but life is interesting for sure
Welp! This is my boss to a T!!! 😭 I have a very difficult time dealing with her, there's been a lot of times I have to go cry in a different part of the building, I feel like she does or says things on purpose to get a ride out of me. Or if she see's that I'm feeling good/confident at work she finds a way to bring me down- which sucks because confidence is something I struggle with. Sometimes I feel like she hired me to help me better myself but other times I feel like she's a double agent and not really on my side? I feel she's playing mind games with me and testing me constantly. A friend told me that it's a very toxic work place and I should get out of there. I don't really know what to do. I recently caught my boss faking a rumor, to what end? I have no idea! But it made me mad, again, some kind of test against me. 🤷🏻♀️
I'm Machiavellian and I'm not a piece of garbage. Your personality can align with this construct without it meaning you're automatically evil. I have very deep, meaningful relationships. But do I sometimes plan so far into the future that it almost doesn't make any sense for right now? Yes 🤣. We are patient people who are not impulsive and will work very hard for a long time to get what we want. There's nothing wrong with that.
Lol. It’s okay. I like this channel but this is one of the few times where I have to differ. As a High Machiavellian, I don’t really do the things mentioned in this video. Most of things suggested in the video sound like things a person would do if they were on a ego trip which is kinda narcissistic than Machiavellian. “The Prince” as it is is more than scheming to the top for power. It’s a how to rule manual that stipulates instructions for survival in politics and how to deal with specific dubious people in society. To put it bluntly, it teaches you how to be street smart than villainous.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 thank you!!!! I thought the video sounded more along the lines of psychopathy and narcissism too. It's honestly quite difficult to spot a Mach because it would thwart our plans to be found out lol
As soon as I heard how to protect myself from Machiavellians, my heart dropped, because all those things are the opposite of what I do with my peers and friends. I’m going to keep watching for any Machiavellians, thanks psych2go!
I'm only Machiavellian on competitive games that include survival skills and have parts that are easy to manipulate people with, like Elimination voting and stuff, using private chat. But being Machiavellian in real life is a horrible and hard thing to do!
I am currently in the 2nd semester of the 4th year of HS, and we just discussed "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli. So yes, I can confirm this video is accurate
i always thought the term for the friend i had that secretly saw me as a competition and ruined my reputation through rumors, was just narcissistic, turns out he was a very manipulative machiavellian person i hate the fact that i already knew what he was doing, noticed all of his manipulations on other people to go against me yet i ignored it all and considered him because i believe he could learn, regret these wrong actions and someday mature into a better person thinking back, all of the consideration and understanding i gave probably meant nothing for that friend of mine, which sucks a lot
Tetta Kisaki from Tokyo Revenger has Machiavellian personality. Anyway, most of my family members are gossipers and treat others who have a lower status like shit. I am glad I separated from them 13 years ago.
They are very dangerous people, avoid sharing personal info with them, they can use anytime, anywhere without remorse They tell dangerous lies against others to cause separations , for power and for control.
I think I might might kinda be a machiavellian, but I don't wish to harm any others. I only do things with reason and I have a understanding of human morals, and avoid trespassing said morals. I don't gossip about people, or atleast not consciously and never share/use their secrets in anyway. I try to give as much as I can in any relationship I'm in, to try and make up for my, negative(??) behaviours, but I of course also gain something. What should I do?
As a High Machiavellian, I don’t really do those things either. I just have an understanding of how some people work and know how to pull strings if needed. Otherwise, I don’t really make it my mission to exploit people.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 I've always been one-sided in life and have 'chosen' sides to those who can provide me with stuff i want. I've always disregarded arguments from the other person's side by ignoring right and wrong for the sake of getting what i want. It's survival, but it comes with a price. I only cope with listening to both side's bullshit for my end, otherwise i wouldn't even care to bother if it wasn't for my leverage. I'm friendly by nature, but have a zero tolerance policy to not getting what i want, and sometimes chose the worst decisions for others misery i'm not proud of. I'm certain others who have high personality traits of Machiavellianism have been in this situation before.
What if I am this person... I try to learn more about myself and be better. I'm tired and trying my best to live well and be authentic. In my opinion, I will attempt to resort to this sort of behavior when there are perceived inadequacies in myself. I guess what I'm hoping to find is info that'll help me fight against this behavior within me and what personal care could be used to subvert my own behavior if I recognize I'm currently behaving in such a manner. The answer seems clear to me, but like I've said, I'm tired ( also fighting off situational depression at the moment) and would like to know more about this sort of behavior. I'm working on being more grateful and trying to make happiness within myself for myself, one step at a time. Knowing the right information can make a big difference.
When I was in seventh grade, there was a girl that went to my school. She was supposedly friends with one of my two friends that went to school with me at the time. The two of them and I were in the same class. That girl kept my friend away from me for a lot of time. I could see she was manipulating my friend and telling obvious lies and gossiping a lot, but I was and still am very introverted and didn’t want to say anything. I knew something was definitely wrong with her. She and my friend stopped being friends the summer afterwards (thank God). Because of this video, I know that this girl is most likely Machiavellian.
My narcissistic mother and sister have signs number 2, 3, and 4. They say I have anger issues when clearly, they do themselves. However, I am unsure if that counts as excessive gossip. I am surviving by learning new skills and getting more help, especially from therapists.
Its crazy.I have finally extracated myself from someone who i just thought was a narcissist. But after watching this I realized that he is actually machiavellist.I feel so lucky to have gotten away when I did.
I've scored 99 out of 100 in machiavellianism. As for excessive gossipping, I don't ever do that, simply because it would be stupid. I don't want that gossip to get back to me ever. Highly competitive? Absolutely 100%. And I'm interestingly enough not motivated by money at all. However, I am motivated by influence, because I believe myself more capable of making the world a better place for our species than 99% of people.
Then there's the toxic people who have no one and don't seek to use others as they're already alone...daily and 100%, misunderstood because of their pain...
In life I have one thing I'm living for one person keeping me alive after that I accept dying alone what I am now doesn't matter since something else will take my place it can only be imprisoned for so long
Hey psych2go I have a communication issue. I can’t communicate good with anyone not even close friends, and this girl I like, I can’t even get myself to say hi to her. I feel like I know what to say to people but I just can’t……..Wanted your feedback.
hey, i need some advice :( i dont really have a great humor, and my crush has no idea about me having a crush on her, she is extremely shy and i dont want to scare her away, it was extremely hard for me to befriend her but now i am trying to be someone who could always be there for her and make her feel happy, we're just casual friends, what should i do? i am confused, i want to date her, i am shy as well, i am extremely confused right now, we dont talk much and when we do, i feel like she's not interested and i am annoying her and wasting her time, she is genuinely nice so she never says anything hurtful or bad, but idk if she is tired or, idk i need help
I vaguely remember reading about a person named Machiavelli back in high school through a college course. I'm assuming machiavellianism is named after him, right?
Its safer to be feared than loved if you cannot be both.
-Niccolo Machiavelli
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But obviously, both are preferred.
@@venmis137 how do you become both loved and feared?
@@mr.e2962 idk I've never tried to inspire those emotions myself.
But it's definitely possible. The love could perhaps come from a respect of the person, or an appreciation of all the good things they have done and their good nature. The fear could come from a knowledge of that person's authority, and their willingness to use it to harsh effect if you disrespect, disobey, or step out of line in any way.
The Church does it with God I think, where you're supposed to be both "god-fearing" and loving of god simultaneously. It's a dynamic in traditional father-son relationships from what I've heard.
I'm not sure which is better to cultivate first, personally I lean more towards fear. Fear is safer on its own than love, then once you're secure in that you can use a softer hand, and the subject will be grateful and adoring to you for the relief. By contrast cultivating love first is a more insecure position, and once you have to instil fear it is probably much more likely to instil resentment in the subject, who will probably feel a sense of betrayal.
@@mr.e2962 if you good i give money if you bad i make a serbian shishh kebab
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1). Excessive gossip 1:26
2). Highly competitive 2:09
3). Insincere flattery 3:06
4). Manipulation 4:14
Hope this helps you out. Hope you have a nice day. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I have the 3rd and 4th one
@@mitsuha4788 no idea and okay
Thanks! I love this things !!
Mine that being RaisorBlade checks pretty much every box! Love your channel Psych2Go, it really does help me with my life! 😃
That really helped me shave off 10 seconds off my speedrun 👍
honestly this channel is underrated as a resource for writers. only an amateur in what I do, but videos like this are good starting points for portraying characters with problematic personalities in a convincing, believable, and comprehensible way. thank you!
Thank you for watching!!!😊❤
Same! I have a main character who's a machiavellian type of person in a lot of aspects
i literally came here to comment this exact thing lmao
DUDE, SAME! Almost everyone in my OC's family is part of the dark triad one way or another
this is a really good idea for writers
I remember scoring “High-Mach” on a Machiavellian test at school and liking his book “The Prince”, but I typically don’t go out of my way to be Machiavellian. Truthfully, I just want a peacful life to do things I wanna do
Wow, me too, but I like “48 rules of power” it kinda felt like home, like happy that someone understood that there is another tactic, by nonetheless it made me not alone.
Same here. I too have read the Prince and excerpts of the 48 Laws of Power.
I’m an INFJ and when I took the Dark Triad test, I scored extremely low for Psychopathy and Narcissism but scored higher on Machiavelianism with a 62%.
It’s interesting because I don’t think the suggestions in this video really fit me.
I don’t go about gossiping about other people, I’m not that competitive to point where I hurt other relationships, I don’t use insincere flattery (I try to be irrevocable with my word most of the time), and I’m not regularly manipulative.
Could I do those things? Sure but there’s no value to it. All of those characteristics listed in video sound more indicative to Narcism rather than Machiavelianism.
For me, Machiavellian strategy isn’t really about being villainous or grabbing power but rather using survival strategies, understanding circumstances, and being street smart.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 I agree with you, after all why use every force you have when your only getting a little portion of it. At first I thought having a Machiavellian personality is a bad thing but you shed a little light that it may not be the case. If we are talking to mbti is it common for infj? Because I’m intj and I’m not well informed about Mbti right now.
@@Why-nv2js Probably not. I don’t thinks it’s innate for INFJ’s to be Machiavelianian. I think Machiavelianism is actually a learned trait and that any personality is capable of it.
For me, it started as a child. I came from divorced parents and lived most of my formative years with my mom who was an abusive Narcissist.
Thankfully, I had an intervention as my dad got me out of that environment but when I went to live with him, I came with cluster B traits.
While most of them have gone away through counseling, my parents noticed that I was capable of being opportunistic during my teens.
I think it really came from watching my moms behavior. While she didn’t directly sit me down and tell me “okay son this is how you can be manipulative. Now go and do it like a good doggy”. It was more like she was regularly exploitative and that I picked up on those cues regarding its effects on specific circumstances.
I don’t know how other people became Machiavellian.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 well in my case, when I was elementary grade 2 where I transferred school to private school. It was my first time meeting them and I was happy to meet my classmates family even the other teacher. My mom said that I was bright emphatic kid. But it all went down. The first time I was accused of touching her pp, mind you at that time I don’t know what they were talking about. And my mother interrogated me for a week, it felt torture as no one is coming to comfort me, even my father is busy at his stocks. Because of it I felt despair as no one is here to comfort me. And later on I was mentally drained and I comply everything they accused me of. After that one of my teacher used this opportunity to alienate me and hove more nice view on himself, but I didn’t think it was bad, because it helps them to have more connections to the classmates. But he is a good teacher as he is the only teacher I could play and have fun, rather than the other teacher using there harsh words and their disgusted view.
Thanks to this I’ve been alone for a decade, right now I’m trying to fix myself, but it’s hard to change your habit that’s been with you for a decade. Because of this I’m only good at math, science and civic because this teacher are really nice, but the rest I suck because of there treatments on me.
Basically I’m afraid of people who are easily misinformed or manipulated, as they will cut ties with you without a warning, maybe that’s the reason why I’m afraid of having a real friend, when you’re surrounded with people who are easily manipulated. As it could damage me and my other connections.
I guess I felt relief that there are Machiavellian out there, so that I could understand if I did wrong to other people. When I was a kid they have a negative point of me because of my race, I guess that time they were racist, but I didn’t believe that they were racist, because I had a classmates of multiracial people, it made me have a good view on humanity, and I didn’t believe about racism at that time, I don’t see different about there face and race, but until I went to the private school it felt I was the different it felt as if there league is different from me.
Even to this day I’m afraid of people.
🚨Well done!
Sometimes we can't avoid people with this kind of behaviour for example at work. Combatting Machiavellianism by being authentic.
The most important advice is to remember our core values and to adhere to principles and set objectives that meet these values. Focus on displaying our positive personality traits and strengthen our own self-worth.
Couldn't agree more to this. 💯💯💯
Thank you for watching!😊❤
Sadly it seems people in positions of power that we cannot say no to tend to be Machiavellian.
The scariest thing about machiavellianism is that, unlike other dark triad personalities, such type of behaviour actually makes sence and really beneficial. Or is it just me? :O
Narcissism is useful too 😢
@@clarapena1484 I wouldn't say so, not in a long run. Narcissists end up alone and hated, sooner or later.
Lol.
@@MrCurlz no at the end of the day people will hate you for choosing work over friends, and try to make me look like the bad guy even when I’m not using any other of those tools so now, I just don’t care when I use all the tools in my disposal.
@@TheOverLord69x well I think it would be more indifference than hate, so if you don't want any friends at the first place it could work out
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The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
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This whole thread is a scam
Ha ha ha
The ironic sad part of "Machiavellianism", is that Machiavelli was demonized for his observations and recording them down. The common interpretation of his work is basically, "This is how to be the villain." However, rephrase this interpretation to, "Dear reader, if you see these traits, this is someone who is acting villainously!", then you get something very different. His work comes across more as a warning and a 'red flag' system for anyone to look for, kind of like a 'training manual for whistleblowers' in some ways.
I'm more inclines to describe someone who has a 'Machiavelli' personality type as one that is extremely observant and analytical, rather than manipulative and villainous.
How would you confront, or help someone who is going through 'Machiavellianism', or is doing it, but unaware of it?
A great analysis
now you got me interested in reading the Prince, lol! I always thought it was a boring book about how to become a ruler or something
I think you’re on point about the “Prince” serving more as a warning for future politicians and about a Machiavellian being more observant analytical than villainous.
I feel that this video failed capture that and that most characteristics listed out are more indicative to Narcissism or Malignant Narcissism rather than Machiavelianism.
When I took the Dark Triad test, I scored low on every thing else but came out as a High Machiavellian but I don’t really do the things suggested in this video.
@@georockstar09 it's interesting
Thank you so much.
I was wondering if its only me or does anyone else in the world see it the same way.
Very reassuring.
Great video! Machiavellianism seems to be similar to narcissism in a lot of ways😮 The animation and writing is great!!!💕
Thank you! :) Glad you enjoyed the writing and animation!
Hello!
I just wanted to say thank you.
I'm going through a confusing and rough phase of my life, and only recently found this channel. Hearing your calm voice has given me comfort I haven't had anywhere else, and that is helping me a lot.
This might not have anything to do with this video in specific, but I just wanted to comment this on the newest one so you would be more likely to see it.
Thank you for watching!!!😊❤
Hang in there I'm sure you can get trough this !!
Makima, Griffith, Homelander, Omni-Man, Stormfront, Junko Enoshima, and many others are chilling examples of these…fiction just gave them superpowers or in Junko’s case, a whole lot of money and a massive ego.
Kisaki from Tokyo Revengers is a great example too, he's very smart but uses his perceptiveness and adaptability to manipulate people from behind the scenes and to turn them against each other for his own gains and influence.
@@KitsuNerezza And then there’s also Light Yagami and Yuno Gasai (Future Diary) and both of them are basically anime versions of The Joker without the clown motif.
@@joshuaolsoncook There is also Baku Madarame from Usogui and Johan Liebert from monster
@@greenboi5632 Johan's another great example! Man I need to rewatch Monster one of these days
@@KitsuNerezza Try reading Usogui if you haven't Baku Madarame a menace
thanks for having aizen in the video, love the reference and content!!🖤
Thank you for watching!!!😊❤
Glad you enjoyed! :)
Fun fact, Machiavellian himself whom this term is named after was in reality just a pragmatist. He believed that democracy/republicanism was the ideal thing, but simultaneously believed that an autocratic king might be what was needed to unite Italy into a singular kingdom so that a republic may arise. Basically a person who wanted the best, but accepted that more nefarious means might be required for the end goal
I work with a female and a male who exhibit these traits to a freggin TEE!!!!!……Always in everyone else’s business (needlessly), sucking up to the bosses, talks behind everyone else’s back, bullies to make themselves look good…Just rotten people, but weak if you really call them out! Most of us in the company avoid them like the plague….Ironically, they both are best friends…LOL. One recently got voted into a “meager” position within our Union, while the other one manipulated workers into voting for “his” candidate…😏. Both spread lies, and manipulated a lot of young workers into those votes…….Glad I watched the video.
Thank you for watching!😊
They still won though
@@thadsmith6520 This time.
your voice is so calm and sleepy it helps so much for relax
Thank you so much for these videos! It really helps me learn about mental health.
Ello person is the giveaway thing a scam if you check it out since i dont wanna get a virus
Thank you for watching!😊 What was your favorite part of the video?
This girl is my desk partner…She actually pushed me out of my seat to let someone else sit there 🤕
That was a b!tçh move
That bleach reference was 🔥☠️
All part of Aizen’s plan
Omg, I just have to say, the art work is just phenomenal
Thank you for watching!❤🎉
I loved that this video used Walter White as an example ti be capable 9f relating w
Ith due to it being such a largely watched series on TV . Best series I've ever seen before hands down and it made along with the illustration fun to watch . Good job Phyc2go . 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is very eye opening, thank you very much!!
Of course!!! I’m the writer for this video and I just want to help people, thank you for watching 😊❤
Been learning to reprogram myself from being this way for the past 3 or so years, glad this is being talked about. Much love ❤
Thank you for watching!!!😊❤
rejection of efficiency i'd say
I was hoping this video would list reasons why the tests I've taken were faulty seeing as though I always scored so highly in Machiovellianism. Instead, I just feel incredibly called out. I never hurt anybody, though. I swear I'm a great person
Thank you Mrs. Segura! I am ALWAYS trying to find fancy or exquisite words for the songs that I love to write!!😊
I was married for 12 years to someone with the traits of a Machiavellean. He was also a covert narcissist. I am a gentle, sensitive and highly sensitive person. The marriage nearly destroyed every aspect of my health. I escaped one year ago, and am now dealing with the aftermath, which includes complex post traumatic stress disorder. Please let this be a warning!
My situation is identical to yours. I was married for 13 years, he left me 2 years ago once he'd acquired my life savings, a substantial amount of money. He also took my home. I have CPTSD, and have become a recluse because i feel ashamed that i was so gullable.
I wish you well in your recovery.
referring to someone as a machavellean and self diagnosing them with a personality disorder.. you come off as clueless and toxic. No one can be a machavillian. You can be scaled low or high with machavilliasm. It's not a disorder. Anyone can be scaled for machavilliasm. Personality disorders like npd have to evualted by professionals. Bipolar, ADHD and alcholism have to be ruled out or comorbid to be diagnosed with it. It's not determined by how toxic or crappy of a partner they are. Anyone can be that way without any disorder playing a role.
Whenever I start studying about a certain topic in psychology, this channel posts something about it, it scares me.
Thank you for watching!😊❤ What was your favorite part of the video?
Not just toxic but a fake friend I've had many of them just stay away from people like that
Machiavelli gets a bad rap these days. “The Prince” was basically just a handbook for lower-level royalty figures during the Renaissance period on how to avoid being assassinated
Is no one going to talk about the ghost poster in the background at 2:37? It looks so cool! I love all the references in these videos
Nice bleach reference; 🇯🇲thanks for helping learn more about myself and discovering who i am over the years
This is a really insightful and amazing video🖤 I have power hungry coworkers and it’s terrible dealing with them:( I’m going to use the advice in this video and avoid them.
I'm so glad I found this channel. I also loved the Bleach reference. It's an extreme but perfect fit!
I love this channel it helps me understand me or my friends
Of course!!! I’m the writer for this video and I just want to help people, thank you for watching 😊❤
I know a family infested with both covert and overt narcissists. It's either they're infallible or the woe is me type who claim to be the most victimized in history and would down play the struggles of others, even if they are kids dying of cancer, while refusing to help themselves or seek help.
I’ve seen stories of people being machiavellians. The problem is they think they’re on top level of everything and think they get can get away with anything, no matter how it affects others. That’s just how I see it.
I mean this is pretty accurate. People are often foolish. Behind almost every action lies an irashinal emotion which makes it easy to manipulate someone if you know which strings to pull. People with traits from the dark triad are actually a lot harder to point out. They tend to mix pretty well in crowd.
Correct .Set boundaries and ignore them.
the thumbnail wud be a great cover for a BL Manga 😭
You guys upload some really interesting stuff! I'm working on a story where the main character fits the descriptions of a highly sensitive person that I've seen on this channel to a T, and while at first I thought of the villain in that story as a narcissist, now I think he might be more Machiavellian.
whoever did this art did AMAZINGA
This was SUPER COOL TO WATCH! Im gonna do something with these dark triads in my story its gonna be awesome
Instantly clicked
What was your favorite part of the video?😊
Awesome art style and animation
Georgia from Ginny and Georgia:
I never really had friends most ppl just took advantage of me my whole childhood and yet they are dying now of natural bad decisions I am thriving so many options a writer, a regular job so many simple possibilities
The only reason I clicked on the video because "machiavellian" was in that taylor swift song mastermind. Thank you miss swift for always increasing my vocabulary.
That's good to know! Did this video remind you of someone in your life?
Oh feeling super called out in this one. 👉😏👈
hi psych2go!
i have really appreciated your videos, and they are very informative and have really helped my self-reflect
I wanted to ask you if you could do a small talk on why people perceive others differently from what they actually are
ex. “I am an introvert, but all my friends say I am an extrovert.”
just an idea and wanted to put it out there because I have never seen many people do videos on this ❤
Me who's that friend but will always be by your side if I like you enough:
Crab! 🦀 Love the animation in this, it's so bouncy~
This is gonna be very helpful for breaking down the Cardinal’s character in ‘The Duchess of Malfi’, that we’re studying🙌🏻
But psychologically, this is really good to figure out such people. My introvert self be like “People? Retreat to safe zone!!”
Thank you for watching!😊 What was your favorite part of the video?
@@Shellie95 i actually love all Psych2Go videos, and this is one of them
Why thank you, i have one of these right under my roof
Thanks for sharing. How many signs applied to them?
Sadly I live with one. My fiancee's mother has 3 out of 4 of the traits. But I have 4. So she and I go back and forth. My life in this house would be a great drama that's for sure. So many stories I could write about. And believe me I would so love to write on what has happened in the last 14 years. That's how long me and my fiancee has been together for
So your fiance is in the midst of two machiavellics, I wonder how she survives.
@@yasmeen9592 I do know how I act but I do try my best not to manipulate her and try to protect her and my children. It's interesting life day to day. Kind of nuts but life is interesting for sure
You guys work so hard like Kurzgesagt to make these videos for every week
Welp! This is my boss to a T!!! 😭 I have a very difficult time dealing with her, there's been a lot of times I have to go cry in a different part of the building, I feel like she does or says things on purpose to get a ride out of me. Or if she see's that I'm feeling good/confident at work she finds a way to bring me down- which sucks because confidence is something I struggle with. Sometimes I feel like she hired me to help me better myself but other times I feel like she's a double agent and not really on my side? I feel she's playing mind games with me and testing me constantly. A friend told me that it's a very toxic work place and I should get out of there. I don't really know what to do. I recently caught my boss faking a rumor, to what end? I have no idea! But it made me mad, again, some kind of test against me. 🤷🏻♀️
I'm Machiavellian and I'm not a piece of garbage. Your personality can align with this construct without it meaning you're automatically evil. I have very deep, meaningful relationships. But do I sometimes plan so far into the future that it almost doesn't make any sense for right now? Yes 🤣. We are patient people who are not impulsive and will work very hard for a long time to get what we want. There's nothing wrong with that.
citations needed
Lol. It’s okay.
I like this channel but this is one of the few times where I have to differ. As a High Machiavellian, I don’t really do the things mentioned in this video.
Most of things suggested in the video sound like things a person would do if they were on a ego trip which is kinda narcissistic than Machiavellian.
“The Prince” as it is is more than scheming to the top for power. It’s a how to rule manual that stipulates instructions for survival in politics and how to deal with specific dubious people in society.
To put it bluntly, it teaches you how to be street smart than villainous.
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 thank you!!!! I thought the video sounded more along the lines of psychopathy and narcissism too. It's honestly quite difficult to spot a Mach because it would thwart our plans to be found out lol
I am too. However when it gets serious we do whatever it takes to eliminate and win. Only when there’s high stakes I’m not ego chasing every victory.
When I think of toxic person I think of 90% of the general public...
I'm sorry but I'm not joking.
can't joke when it's (sadly) facts
As soon as I heard how to protect myself from Machiavellians, my heart dropped, because all those things are the opposite of what I do with my peers and friends. I’m going to keep watching for any Machiavellians, thanks psych2go!
Machavillians aren't a thing. Machavilliasm can only scaled low to high with people in general
I understand 👍🏽
Hi random
I'm only Machiavellian on competitive games that include survival skills and have parts that are easy to manipulate people with, like Elimination voting and stuff, using private chat. But being Machiavellian in real life is a horrible and hard thing to do!
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I was the fifth like! 🥳
I am the 136th like!
I was the 264th like
And I'm your 7th
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I dealt with it by divorcing him.
I am currently in the 2nd semester of the 4th year of HS, and we just discussed "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli. So yes, I can confirm this video is accurate
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Ngl this kinda inspired me to write a character-
i always thought the term for the friend i had that secretly saw me as a competition and ruined my reputation through rumors, was just narcissistic, turns out he was a very manipulative machiavellian person
i hate the fact that i already knew what he was doing, noticed all of his manipulations on other people to go against me yet i ignored it all and considered him because i believe he could learn, regret these wrong actions and someday mature into a better person
thinking back, all of the consideration and understanding i gave probably meant nothing for that friend of mine, which sucks a lot
Tetta Kisaki from Tokyo Revenger has Machiavellian personality. Anyway, most of my family members are gossipers and treat others who have a lower status like shit. I am glad I separated from them 13 years ago.
They are very dangerous people, avoid sharing personal info with them, they can use anytime, anywhere without remorse
They tell dangerous lies against others to cause separations , for power and for control.
I didn't pay much attention to the explanation, I was just admiring the animation
I think I might might kinda be a machiavellian, but I don't wish to harm any others. I only do things with reason and I have a understanding of human morals, and avoid trespassing said morals. I don't gossip about people, or atleast not consciously and never share/use their secrets in anyway. I try to give as much as I can in any relationship I'm in, to try and make up for my, negative(??) behaviours, but I of course also gain something. What should I do?
As a High Machiavellian, I don’t really do those things either.
I just have an understanding of how some people work and know how to pull strings if needed.
Otherwise, I don’t really make it my mission to exploit people.
So how did you decide that you are high Machiavellian? What traits do you see in yourself ?
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 I've always been one-sided in life and have 'chosen' sides to those who can provide me with stuff i want. I've always disregarded arguments from the other person's side by ignoring right and wrong for the sake of getting what i want. It's survival, but it comes with a price. I only cope with listening to both side's bullshit for my end, otherwise i wouldn't even care to bother if it wasn't for my leverage. I'm friendly by nature, but have a zero tolerance policy to not getting what i want, and sometimes chose the worst decisions for others misery i'm not proud of. I'm certain others who have high personality traits of Machiavellianism have been in this situation before.
You forgot Dream SMP character Dream he is this type of person who would do great as Mashivelian
What if I am this person...
I try to learn more about myself and be better. I'm tired and trying my best to live well and be authentic. In my opinion, I will attempt to resort to this sort of behavior when there are perceived inadequacies in myself. I guess what I'm hoping to find is info that'll help me fight against this behavior within me and what personal care could be used to subvert my own behavior if I recognize I'm currently behaving in such a manner. The answer seems clear to me, but like I've said, I'm tired ( also fighting off situational depression at the moment) and would like to know more about this sort of behavior. I'm working on being more grateful and trying to make happiness within myself for myself, one step at a time. Knowing the right information can make a big difference.
if you're worried you're machiavellian, then you're probably not
Please make a video on how to cure/treat burnout!!.... 😭🙏🏻
When I was in seventh grade, there was a girl that went to my school. She was supposedly friends with one of my two friends that went to school with me at the time. The two of them and I were in the same class. That girl kept my friend away from me for a lot of time. I could see she was manipulating my friend and telling obvious lies and gossiping a lot, but I was and still am very introverted and didn’t want to say anything. I knew something was definitely wrong with her. She and my friend stopped being friends the summer afterwards (thank God). Because of this video, I know that this girl is most likely Machiavellian.
....my manager.
That hylian shield 😍
I've got an invisible hylian shield to protect me from manipulation and gaslighting. Forged in years by experience and learning.
One of my(past) friends is a Narcissist , my other a Machiavellian
Really love it when Anime is included in these videos 😂
Jst feels rather wholesome
Sometimes I'm not even interested in the topic of the video, but nonetheless I play it, because I like the sound of your voice 🤭
After watching this , i can say clearly that i am not evil. I am proud of my these tactics that i use.
You have a ayanokoji pfp ofcourse you think dark triad and being a sociopath is cool
One of my closest companions has all of this signs. Wow
I'm actually scared now
Ok I previously thought that I was on the lower side of being a psychopath but now I think I am a Macavalian….
My narcissistic mother and sister have signs number 2, 3, and 4. They say I have anger issues when clearly, they do themselves. However, I am unsure if that counts as excessive gossip. I am surviving by learning new skills and getting more help, especially from therapists.
And there's an anime/Bleach term...to other references
I married one. So damn sad. I still have PTSD from the narcissistic machevailian
Thanks for sharing this. I know people like this. Howcome there was the hylian shield though?
Its crazy.I have finally extracated myself from someone who i just thought was a narcissist. But after watching this I realized that he is actually machiavellist.I feel so lucky to have gotten away when I did.
I've scored 99 out of 100 in machiavellianism. As for excessive gossipping, I don't ever do that, simply because it would be stupid. I don't want that gossip to get back to me ever. Highly competitive? Absolutely 100%. And I'm interestingly enough not motivated by money at all. However, I am motivated by influence, because I believe myself more capable of making the world a better place for our species than 99% of people.
your going to have to update this in a few years once all the manipulators have watched and know how people will discover them :)
Then there's the toxic people who have no one and don't seek to use others as they're already alone...daily and 100%, misunderstood because of their pain...
First
In life I have one thing I'm living for one person keeping me alive after that I accept dying alone what I am now doesn't matter since something else will take my place it can only be imprisoned for so long
That’s more likely someone who’s being triangulated.
Hey psych2go I have a communication issue. I can’t communicate good with anyone not even close friends, and this girl I like, I can’t even get myself to say hi to her. I feel like I know what to say to people but I just can’t……..Wanted your feedback.
hey, i need some advice :( i dont really have a great humor, and my crush has no idea about me having a crush on her, she is extremely shy and i dont want to scare her away, it was extremely hard for me to befriend her but now i am trying to be someone who could always be there for her and make her feel happy, we're just casual friends, what should i do? i am confused, i want to date her, i am shy as well, i am extremely confused right now, we dont talk much and when we do, i feel like she's not interested and i am annoying her and wasting her time, she is genuinely nice so she never says anything hurtful or bad, but idk if she is tired or, idk i need help
Very Deep Indeed
I vaguely remember reading about a person named Machiavelli back in high school through a college course. I'm assuming machiavellianism is named after him, right?
I was in a war with a narcissist as a machevelian in my job. I destroyed him easily. Narcissists make a lot of enemies and aren’t very smart.
Aizen was the perfect example
Who else watched this to make sure they weren't who this video is about?
it is so much different when you are with a partner who have machiavellian trait
So my older cousin is machiavellianisn no wonder why he's toxic.
Aizen-"You watching this video was part of my plan"
I want to hear you on fresh and fit podcast 🙌