The Salamanders are exactly what they should be
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Vulkan is essentially "Demons run when a good man goes to war."
"Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many." I feel like I got that one wrong.
@@coreypatton6290you got the quote right
Hopefully the Eldar children Also run
They can't outrun promethium flame.
"Daemons run when a good man goes to war. Except Skarbrand, he doesn't do retreats."
I love that salamanders tend to go home and visit their families whenever possible. Unlike the other legions, they keep their personal link to the rest of humanity. Propably why they care so much about mortals. They don't just get indoctrinated to hell and back to just fight and die for the emporer.
Ultramarines are the only other chapter that I think doesn’t explicitly forbid that kind of contact and also treats normal humans with respect. Not to the degree of Salamanders but still.
To fight and die for the emperor is to help humanity win, a few thousand 'casualties' are nothing compared to entire planets that marines protect.
“Hey let’s hurry up and finish melting these Space elf children. My son has a baseball game at 4pm”
- Vulkan probably
"hey lord vulkan, ol' brother jimmy over there found a bunker full of xeno civilians and children, you wanna do the honors?"
"I always have time for civilians"
They'll never turn traitor
“I would embrace you but that was never your way was it Rogal”
Dorn laughed gruffly
“Abstention is a wise decision.”
Vulkan bear hugs him anyway.
Is it wrong that i read that in their TTS voices?
Seems pretty in character for how they were in that series.
@@fishpop i actually read these lines in tts voices XD
@@fishpoptbh, I read all lore voices in TTS voices. It was the main reason I couldn't do audio books, and swapped to Kindle.
@@fishpop Jamaican Vulkan is a gift from the Empmeror
Dorn would may have his spine broken, but might not considering his stubborness.
They are so cool because they are simultaneously extremely dangerous, extremely friendly and very culturally rich, and it all works.
The most based loyalist legion.
I love em, but it's a shame Nick Kyme can't write anything more interesting than a paperclip.
Theyre the nicest, yet still warcrimey guys in Green that there are
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930 Bah, Geneva Suggestions, they’re only killing heretics and and xeno’s
@@sparrowsbewertungen6930They've got plenty of green competition when it comes to the Death Guard,Dark Angels,and Orcs
I love how wholesome they are while still being murdery
literal warcrimes involving flame throwers
Fire makes it good
@@krissteel4074 don't forget the purity it brings as well.
@@TheBoneZone40kwar crimes against xenos don't exist! Seriously they are purely a human concept and don't applies to other species so burning Elder even little ones is a okay! Also it's a mith that flamethrowers are a war crime again totally okay. only white phosphorus is a bit sus, but all other kinds of fire weapons are fine!
@@TheBoneZone40kThey're biggest war crime is their old color scheme.
Salamanders are amazing. While their character has shifted a bit, even being flanderized to a degree, loved these guys since the old Index Astartes in a White Dwarf and this quote of Vulkan to the Emperor; "Any man who values life over pride is worthy of my service."
How, or in what way was there character shifted?
@@wernerfuhry Initially Vulkan and the Salamanders were smiths, dedicated and humble, with an emphasis on deliberation and slow to act. They even had - 1 Initiative to reflect this way back in the day. There was an almost dwarfiness to them, sans the grudgin.
They weren't vainglorious and did the right thing simply because it was right. In the (2nd I think) war for Armageddon, he humbly ceded command to Dante and even beat the snot out of Marines Malevolent for using refugee camps as lures for Orks and then shelling them.
As the editions rolled on and the Horus Heresy got fleshed out, those elements largely remained, but we get this element of kindness or niceness that begins to overshadow the other elements.
This is largely due to how Vulkan is being portrayed, true, but it shines onto the Salamanders as well.
The right thing became stretched to have elements of suicidal self destructiveness and the ponderousness was reduced.
In some cases, it even meme'd itself to where Vulkan will HUG IT OUT with all.
I don't want to claim it is a HUGE shift and the new stuff is pretty great (the GLOWING RED EYES AND ONYZ SKIN thing is a smidge odd but whatever), simply saying that Vulkan and his Legion are thought of as the NICE ones, before the HUMBLE ones.
TLDR: The initial humility and dedication, while still present, seems to have taken backseat to an idea of them as "nice." Which, I would say, while true, is that they are more "human" than many other Legions.
@@fedupN Oh I see, thanks for answering mate!
@@wernerfuhry No problem! Thanks for listening the ramble. :D
And then Angron happened.
Probably my favorite story bit of Vulkan was when he was held prisoner in a giant torture maze by Konrad Curze, who said at the end of it was his masterwork thunderhammer that he could use to leave because it had a built-in teleporter in it. After being basically killed repeatedly in the maze Vulkan eventually made it to the end and got his hammer, just for Konrad to come up to say "Lmao psych! The ship's teleporter-proof!" In response Vulkan said "IT'S STILL A HAMMER BITCH!" then proceeded to beat Konrad so fucking brutally he put a hole in the ship and got sucked out.
And despite everything Konrad did to Vulkan. Vulkan still chose not kill Curze because he was still his brother
😂😂 bro what
Vulkan had nothing on but underwear, Curze was in his full Primarch gear AND WEAPONS. With only his bare hand he beat Curze so completely it was hilarious. He also got the power field protecting the warhammer to go down by throwing Curze through the damn force field. That was when Vulkan got the hammer and started dismantling Curze even harder.
Something for everyone to remember, only Big E was physically stronger than Vulkan. When people talk about the best duelists and fighters, there is a reason people don't even put Vulkan on the list. Vulkan is strong enough to rip Primarch armor apart with his bare hands! Yes they would hit him a few times but he would tank the hits then get his hands on their weapon or armor, once that happens it is game over. If Vulkan is in his own armor? Oh boy. To put this in perspective, normal Primarch armor is like a Prius compared to Vulkan's Tank. The boy's armor is chunky is what I am saying here. The other Primarchs wouldn't be able to MOVE if they wore Vulkan's armor.
However, Vulkan didn't like fighting. He liked CREATING. While so many other Primarchs were in their dick measuring contests, Vulkan was at the forge making something.
I always liked Vulkan for his gentle and kind giant nature. But don't mistake his kindness for weakness, as behind his kindness and compassion is a Wrathful Dragon that will make sure who wronged him or the people he cares about whish they were never born.
@@Nempo13 Did now know that, I'm not too in depth on 40k lore, but I never knew Vulkan was so physically imposing.
I like their dragon aesthetic and their volunteer-at-the-animal-shelter vibe. I also enjoy when a creep mistakes their kindness for weakness, just before they get turned into paste. De-lightful.
Smashed with a hammer!
*laughs in eldari children*
So the Canadians of Warhammer?
@@silverjohn6037 6'4 black guys, sounds like leaves to me.
Kindness is NOT soft. >:)
One of the best lore moments for Vulkan didn't even have him in the scene. When the Traitors were invading Terra and Perturabo and Fulgrim were on a ship, Perturabo defended Vulkan when Fulgrim was mocking his perpetual motion device saying he thought Vulkan would be too busy making weapons to have any sense of art. Perturabo defends him by saying that many misunderstood Vulkan and that his craftsmanship in ALL aspects was perfect.
seems like vulcan was one of the few people perturabo actually respected.
@@noodlesushi111it makes sense since he was a master craftsman
@@noodlesushi111 Perturabo, Vulkan, and Ferrus Mannus would have been best bros in a better timeline
I'm a total noob to this lore, but I know enough to think a complement from Perturabo is high praise
@@tannerbarnes7392 Perturabo almost never compliments people
I got turned onto them because they seemed like the closest thing to “the good guys” the space marines have and they seem like they’ve actually got brains in their heads more than 1/4 the time, and they’re actually competent and really embody the “no better freind, no worse enemy” cliche
What's the obsession with "THE GOOD GUYS" in 40k? The imperium is in all, good for humans. The eldar is good for the eldar, same for tau. Tau will rule you, not you them.
Lamenters exist
@@jarlathquinn2628 you know, you’re not wrong. I just like the dragons, flamethrowers, and green more than the yellow of the lamenters. I don’t think theres anything wrong with them per say, they’re just not for me I guess
@@tarektechmarine8209 The obsession exists because there are no true "good guys" in 40k, and the imperium is most definitely not all good for humans. The grey knights and inquisition used to go their furthest to purge friendly non-astartes forces and people who had witnessed a chaos incursion. Everybody is out for everyone else's asses, and in the grim darkness of the far future, there is no damn chill to be had.
@@candle_eatist The thing is anyone that isn't a tourist to the hobby will know what seeing a chaos incursion does, especially if Grey knights have to get involved, we ALL know it would be worse if the people where just left alone after, We all KNOW this, people act as if it's evil while the knights are trying to stop anything from going wrong(not that it won't just less chance). It's the simple 10 people or 1 person, choose, which is morally correct? Which option is 'GOOD', being the 'GOOD' Guys includes all actions.
I love that in his primarch book, Vulcan is almost brought to tears in front of his terminator guard when his invasion of a planet to liberate it from the Eldar, there was a body of a little girl being carried off by a member of the Imperial army. He describes it as if he would have believed that she would have been asleep she looked so peaceful, if not for the massive amount of blood soaked into her dress.
Primarch Vulcan is the embodiment of the heart and soul of Mankind made manifest, I truly hope they bring him back for 10th, that is one of my few wishes for this new edition.
Imperium has been on full mobilization for 12K years at this point...and they still get to take it easy with their human families!
"Yeah little Timmy, that 9ft tall hunk of pure muscles is daddy's little brother and he brought you this mini flamer for your birthday!"
And a job application for the Astartes program 😅
one of my favorite short stories is the chapter master of the salamanders is when Tu'shan and Dante are just drinking wine talking about their problems
it was so nice
I laughed my ass off when Tu'Shan put that Marines Malevolent in his place. Fuck the MM.
@@jahrusalem3658Wasnt it specifically the Captain of the MM's 1st Company?
@@TheGreatThicc Yep. Something like that.
Man he was always whooping Vinyar ass. Like I get the scavenging tech cause they got old tech. They got off with a warning for that. Then the refugee camp. My man said keep your gauntlets on, I want this to be fair and I give you some advice, don’t go for a weapon. 😂
The minute I saw the thumbnail, one thing overtook my mind and projected itself into the warp:
“I WOULD LIKE TO PET THIS CREATURE”
- TTS Vulkan
"BOOP DA SNOOT."
@@chainsawsubtlety9828 "Do not touch that merry little suicide bomber."
i miss tts so much bros :( it was truly glorious
STOP WANTING!
IT WOULD BE BUT A BOOP ON ITS NOGGIN
A core part of why Segmentum Pacifica is so chill is because the Salamanders call it home. They didn't hammer out a giant efficient empire like the Ultramarines, they didn't drive at the Moon, howling away, like the Space Wolves, they just showed up, removed problems, then found out what CAUSED those problems, rooted it out, and made everything better. They took planets that were knocked down, picked them up, and helped build them back, because it was the right thing to do and, in the process, prevented the backlash and rage that otherwise would have existed.
They are, in short, the Marshall Plan made manifest, and they're just the goodest of boys.
“I did not hear a ******* bell” had me rolling. And yeah as a rather chill kinda guy I think the salamanders is the chapter for me but I wasn’t sure I’d be the kinda guy to roll with flamers. Then I ran into a black widow in my backyard and instantly reached for my plumbing blow torch. Stupid baby tyranids they shall be cleansed with righteous flame.
"Your beacon won't work. This chamber is teleport-shielded. Nothing goes in or out except through that gate behind you." Still trembling with the aftershocks of absorbing the energy shield, Curze managed to stand. "Did you think you had broken me, brother? Did you believe you have tricked me into letting you escape?" He grinned. "Hope is cruel, isn't it? Yours was false Vulkan."
"You're right," I [Vulkan] conceded, holding up Dawnbringer so he could see it. "I fashioned it as a teleporter, a means to escape even a prison such as this. I counted on you leading me here, on you needing to face me one last time. It seems I was fooled into thinking you hadn't planned for this." I lowered the weapon and let the weight of its head pull the haft down until my hand was wrapped around the very end of the grip. "But you're forgetting one thing...."
Curze leaned in, as if eager to hear my words. He believed that he had me, that I would never escape this trap. He was wrong.
"What's that, brother?"
"It's also a hammer."
The blow caught him across the chin, a savage upswing that took Curze off his feet and put him on the ground again with the sheer force of the impact.
😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣
He mortal Kombat'd his ass Hahaha
FORE!
I like their dichotomy/rivalry with the Night Lords. How despite being the most morally sound legion, they still had a higher body count than a legion of scumbags.
Best shown when Kurze tricked Vulkan into killing an Eldar child which kickstarted a chain of events that led to Vulkan reluctantly razing a civilization to the ground.
Vulkan paid Conrad back in blood though during the Heresy
But the entire point of the night Lords is to have the lowest body count.
@@yaelz6043 Yeah, I know. That’s literally the reason why I’m mentioning it.
The biggest thing I love about Vulcan and the Salamander is when they are pushed too far and do something morally inexcusable, they are legit fucking disgusted with themselves and it’s instantaneous too. “WHAT HAVE I DONE??!” They are legit hero’s in a universe made to break heroes. Yet they haven’t broken. They continue to fight on they burn they are a eternal if small light against the constantly growing and unending grimdarkness of the universe. 12 outa10 good boys.
@@yaelz6043 I mean that's like saying the Drukhari only do what they do to survive. True, but totally sidesteps the fact they also *get off on it* and would do it regardless. 😂
@@Knight-Bishopi think he meant the original night lords, they did not enjoy Killing but did it because they had to unlike the scum they recruited on nostramo
A segment from The Horus Heresy - Sons of the Forge by Nick Kyme
Sons of Horus are regrouping and resupplying after a recent skirmish with a Salamander patrol
Rayko Solomus had left the pit and was sitting on a ammo crate looking out of the battlements of the north wall. He saw the city ruins on the decaying horizon and found himself unmoved. As he only half-heard the menials toiling below and behind him Solomus wondered how long he has been this way.. dead inside. The rifted feeling, only when he held the torturer's knife, did a moat of true emotion return... and even that had been denied to him. The mechanicum emissary had the drake now.
"He did not scream?" asked Nevok. Stopping to regard Solomus as he loaded a fresh shell into his weapons clip.
"Hmm they certainly can take pain"
Nevok stood sentry, waiting for the Salamanders to come. Sons of Horus stood at arms now, bolters at the ready, a squad of heavy weapons with their sights trained on the skies. Their subterfuge, no longer any use to them. They would fight the Salamanders in open battle. They were bloodied though, a row of dead lay in a makeshift apothecarian, waiting for rank to remove their prodgynoids. Even the survivors had burned and scorched armor.
S: "They are born into it..." said Solomus. "..unto fire and death"
N: Nevok nodded as he slipped in another bolt shell. "Have you seen their bodies? His scars had scars.."
S: Solomus drew his knife, admiring the sharpness of the blade. "He killed Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.." he said, counting the legionaries one at the time on his gauntleted fingers. " ..at the same time. He fought them, three against one!"
N: Nevok laughed as he slammed his clip back into his boltgun. "I seriously doubt that! The Drake was a fighter, anyone who is legion could see that, BUT ALL THREE?"
He shook his head and scoffed. "Ezremas alone would have gutted him! These drakes are warm blooded, but they are not like us. They're weak!"
VK: "He did it!" said a voice from behind them. Vosto Kurnan made his way onto the battlements via a metal stair that creaked under his armored weight. "I saw him" he added matter of factly, coming to stand beside the other legionaries.
N: "Then why did you not intervene?!" said Nevok.
VK: "They done themselves enough dishonor without my defeat of the drake making it worse." he said.. "..besides I hated Hajuk, Morvek and Ezremas.."
N: "You hate everyone brother captain.."
VK: "Hmph, true.." Kurnan said lightly and looked descant at Nevok. "But I reserve a special hatred for some. And they aren't weak..." he added. "You never served on Istvan V. You never saw them fight."
N: Nevok looked at them both, nonplussed.. "What!? That was butchery, not service!"
VK: Kurnan drew close. Nevok had his bolter by his side and fully loaded "We HAD them brother... The Ravens were abroad, guerilla fighting even then. The Gorgon and his warriors.. well they were hellbent on Fulgrim. But we had the drakes, surrounded, outnumbered, at the mercy of the high ground and our entrenched artillery. You should have seen the Iron Warriors pummel them.." he shook his head as if remembering the events he was describing in vivid detail. "Any other foe would have died and died fast, and they did..." he said. His voice grew low and menacing "But those drakes refused to yield. They fought even as the bombs rained and their brethren fell in droves. Even when the Gorgon died and when the Lord of Drakes fell soon after.. and when the raven fled they kept on... ..and on. Some had lost limbs, others were impaled or blind. Wounded beyond any reasonable capacity to function... ..even for legionaries..." Kurnan backed off, but his eyes still burned into Nevok's through his retinal lenses. "I heard it said that, ..when you kill one of Guilliman's sons, you make sure he is dead. Vulcan's sons... ..well they just don't die at all..."
The fact that Vulkan is the most wholesome character in the entire setting, despite having been through the most crap of any character in the entire setting (barring perhaps Golden-Throne-Emperor), is truly a marvel.
He's the only one who could survive it, the emperor never had to die a millions times in konrads maze
@@nokkz7307 While the Emperor may not have actually died as many times as Vulkan, the Emperor has been in a constant state of deathrattle torment counteracting his Perpetual regeneration for over 10,000 years. I would say that outclasses Vulkan’s suffering. Even if not by much.
@@jamesf3871 very good point, I don't know how that completely slipped my mind 😂
@@jamesf3871tbh. I think him witnessing and losing his beloved sons on istvaan would be almost equal to the suffering that big E is going trough. I mean he loves humans to a fault. And his sons even more. No imagine him being forced to watch them get slaughtered and be unable to change anything even if he did all in his power.
I mean. They needed to NUKE him on istvaan to debilitate him. Else I doubt anyone would have been able to stop him.
And i find it funny that ferrus was actually 1 head taller than Vulkan. That has changed sadly
propably this is why he is my fav primarch. his humanity endures. even Emperor was proud of him and hold in special regard reserved propably only for Horus and Sanguinuss
Salamanders were my absolute favourite back when I first picked up Warhammer.
I think I just have a thing for marines who go against the grain of what space marines usually are, and share a reptilian aesthetic. Case in point I am currently working on an Alpha Legion Kill Team.
But in all seriousness, If there was another Primarch to come back into the setting, I really hope they don't skip out on Vulkan.
For real. I hope Vulkan comes back after traveling the entire universe, much like the other primarchs, changed but still the same. He has also been struck with the now infamous “Ultradepression” but he still continues on helping where he can but feeling helpless in his efforts to make a difference because of how fucked the Galaxy is. He feels like the weight of it all crushing his shoulders, and his inability to get back to his sons makes him more anxious. Once he finally reunites with his sons should be an epic “VULKAN LIVES” *stomp stomp* moment but its undercut by the air surrounding Vulkan as he quietly goes to his forge to forge in silence.
@@thisguynamedmatt12who has gotten the most silly canonically in 40k
is this a question?@@iforgor8271 because if it is I think the ones who have gotten the most silly in 40k is Abaddon the Despoiler. He got too silly and ended up blowing up Cadia :(
Vulkan said he'd come back when the Imperium needs him most, when the 9 things he left behind were collected.
If Guilliman represents the head (the tactical, logistical part) of the empire & Lionel Johnson is the might of the empire, then Vulkan is the heart of the empire. He's the reminder of what space marines can & should be to the regular people of the universe.
I always liked this way of thinking about Vulkan's place among the other Primarchs. Of course he's probably not coming back any time soon in the lore because he's just the "nice guy" among a bunch of guys really good at killing things in a universe unironically called grimdark & had an offscreen death. I can hope though.
"It's also a hammer" needs to be the Salamanders battle cry.
I love this comment
There are many interesting things that COULD be done with bringing Vulkan back, but I wouldn't place any faith in GW doing so.
I am a Astra Militarum player. Upon discovering that salamanders are possibly the only legion that actually gives a damn about human life is what made me fall in love with the legion. In lore it’s the only legion that would make sense to see them playing on table top with Astra as they actually want to be there to protect them. There’s something so poetic about seeing the most physically intimidating marines be so kinda and gentle with humans and give their life for them. It also gives me the same vibe as George from halo reach, a big machine of war but with a heart of gold. I bought some intercesors just for the sake of painting them as salamanders to fight along with my militarum, even though they play as regular space marines, for me it’s the sake of lore and roleplay is what I would enjoy most of having salamanders in my Astra army. Plus you can’t ever go wrong with flame weapons! 😋
I like the salamders for their kindness, it's good to see that even among space marines it is possible to have an element of humanity. Protecting people, visiting their families, the hugs. It is oddly heartwarming for 40K.
I love my small little salamander army. I mainly chose them for the lore of them being really kind and just kinda humane in comparison to other chapters and also their craftsman skills. I also love the paint scheme as I love green and black. I just love the little green goobers that scorch things into oblivion :)
Imagine a human look at the 15 foot tall ebony skin human with red glowing eyes towing over you. He then sees you and stoops down to your level getting close to you... Then with a friendly Caribbean or African accent yells out "HUMAN FRIEND!" and he gives you the biggest hug ever almost and squeezing the air out of you by accident (often forgeting his strength). Yep that's Vulkan, and his sons being smaller than him but still bigger than you, also giving you big hugs, that's the Salamanders!
I’ve been playing Salamander’s for over a year and ngl everything about them rocks.
The fire is awesome
The colours are awesome
Their lore is awesome too
They are my first army and I’m really excited to use them in 10th.
I love the Salamanders, they’re one of my favorite Legions. From their dragon aesthetic to their blacksmithing creed to their wholesome vibes just makes a unique and cool chapter. One thing though I find is interesting is, while Vulkan is larger than most other of his brothers, Ferrus Manus is described to be a head taller in a book in the Horus Heresy.
Propably wore thicker soles on his armor to look taller.🤣
Fulgrim: not any more :D
@@kingdragong-rh6dl HA! Good one
Sadly. That fact about Ferrus has changed
@@eneram8846 Has it? When and in what book?
As a fun side project I picked up a chaplain of the slamanders. I painted a 5 man squad and tested out doing flame patterns on the armor and even threw an old razorback into the group. They kind of became a centerpiece, I never played them, but I loved showing them off. I got to use different greens and made the lenses yellow. It was a nice break from painting my Ultramarines and World Eaters. Fun project, learned a lot. I guess it was fair to say that from the beginning...I really liked the Salamanders.
I love the salamanders and they been one of the reasons I got into the lore so heavily learning about them, between them actually living with their families when returning home, their rituals and philosophy, and just got interesting characters I really wish they got more books and stories to show how cool they are.
Salamanders: we love life and all of the emperor's children.
Elf child: hello si-
Salamander: KNIFE EAR CHILD DETECTED, CLEANSE IN HOLY FLAME!
I had heard this meme a lot. Honestly it comes off kinda rough after reading the book.
The Night Lords and Salamanders were working on trying to both reconquer the planet from the Eldar Exodites, and re educate the human population who worshipped the Xenos.
Kurze hated how Vulkan was succeeding with kindness where he failed with being an edge lord. So he decided to be petty. He deliberately found the Eldar Child training to be a farseer and through his terror tactics turned her into a Psychic WMD rampaging through the Human settlement. Vulkan had to kill the child to save the population and seeing it was only a child, he felt remorse and regret. Konrad kurze was pointing and laughing like Nelson Muntz at how soft Vulkan was being.
damn Konrad's a Dickhead
@@HewhospritesableWell, that seems more in character for both of them than I previously knew.
@@Hewhospritesable Thank you for sharing this lore. I was not aware of all of the context surrounding that event and that all completely changes the whole story.
And that boys and girls is how media narratives work lmao
@@Hewhospritesable are you defending the xeno? Stay right there while I notify an inquisitor.
I frequent one GW store and the Salamander players just keep increasing in numbers. Most are fairly chill dudes, 9/10 they're ex-players looking to get back in and want to play some 'good guys'. Always a new Dad looking for a hobby to do with his kids.
I think in Europe, the word "salamander" is mostly associated with the small lizard-like animals you've shown, the same group that the axolotls belong to. The most "iconic" species are the ones that are jet-black with a sort of yellow "camo" spots.
Very pretty - and you can see the same color pattern on some of the early Salamander marine armor patterns.
The specific species is called the Fire Salamander in English (_Salamander_ _salamander_ is the scientific name*). Supposedly, they're associated with fire in the European folklore, because - as you mentioned - they love to hang out in and under old logs. So when people collected those logs and threw them into fire, a bunch of little slimy guys would pop out and started running for their life. "They must be born of fire!" the people concluded, with the usual insight.
* the IRL salamanders seem to suffer from the same naming woes that the 40k Space Wolves and Blood Angels do.
Conrad: "Nyaaaa! I took out the teleportation device! Nyayayayaa!!!"
Vulkon: "Ah. What a shame....that you didn't take the hammer out of the, it's still a fucking hammer device....."
Conrad: "..."
Vulkon: "..."
Conrad: "...You're not gonna-"
Vulkon: "I'm going to beat you with it."
As a salamander, I believe in the saying, "If the emperor gave us the power to fight, why not use it to protect the others?". I'm a big green lover and Salamanders called to me so fast when I was learning the lores. :) Great video.
"WATCH OUT! THE CHILD HAS A KNIFE!"
"The Eldar will remember this"
Salamanders were the first legion/chapter I got into mostly due to the dragon/blacksmith vibe. Great for kitbashing aos parts (flames, chains, etc) and hand making master craft weapons and armor, plus flaying dollar store dinosaurs for tattered flaps of scales is also fun
I think it's funny the most chill legion gives their enemies the worst possible way to die. That's how I think about the Salamanders.
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Worst out of the loyalists.
This was ordained by the Emperor, they were an experimental legion probably made for Radioactive and disgustingly hot environments and also being able to handle such weapons. Perhaps their emotional pedigree comes from the fact that they also need to be good people in order to wield terrible weapons and understand when to use them.
@@joesheridan9451 Come again?
@@jahrusalem3658 He said they kill people in the worst way out of everyone, I corrected that probably the worst out of the loyalists but its definitely not worse than what the Night Lords, Emperors Children, Word Bearers, death guard or basically any of the traitors would do to you
@@joesheridan9451 Ahh yeah. Nah, Salamander Flamers kill you pretty quick if your just an average dude.
East coast represent. Whenever I think of salamanders I can only think of the ones hiding under rocks. Legitimately didn’t know a “salamander” was also the name of a mythical beast until recently.
More myths about the properties of real salamanders than a separate magical species, I think. I've heard they liked to nest in damp logs, and sometimes someone would pick up a log they were in and throw it in the fire, leading the salamander to wake up and get the hell out of there in a manner that appeared to be a creature being born from the flames.
@@RorikH now that’s a comical origin story
Here in the Midwest we have blue tailed skinks and salamanders in some of the rivers.
I play Salamanders for the express reason of push come to shove, even in a universe as dark as this, I wish I had the power and force of will to stand up for the little guy.
It feels weird to actually say this but I see a lot of what I hope others see in me about every good story I see about the salamanders. I am a teacher who loves to create, the patience and fierce protection I have for those I am in charge over is something I would say is up their but not endless. Sallies are my second army and have ballooned into being a large thing for me, but from the moment I heard their lore I knew eventually I'd want some because there's at least a bit of hope in a dark world as long as they have the torch to hold it aloft.
Everyone who plays 40k and their tastes, personality quirks, and their qualities all come out in their armies in ways that are great. I play Necrons striving for apotheosis to save their people, Salamanders defending humanity from the evils of the new night befalling the universe, Space Wolves for the honor and the challenge of each fight, Crimson Fists for how the life if all needs defending when its in our power to do so, and Minotaurs for the strength of unified purpose. Each army I play I have a lore reason to do so and it follows part of me. Its weird to introspect for it, but it allows me to see what draws everyone to their army for those who love it for the long haul.
There are 3 unforgivable atrocities in 40k: Istvan 3, Istvan 5 and every single book covering the Salamanders. The authors should have been given to the Haemonculi as test subjects.
I think the biggest factor when it comes to how chill Salamanders players are is that their most aggressively awesome aspect- fire- has an even more aggressive outlet in the Sisters of Battle.
As Salamanders fan all I ask is that we get progression to Forge Father He'stan's story with his hunt for Vulkan's relics. That's it, that's all I ask cause lore wise they're always treated well and I'm glad that many authors don't overhype them like they do other chapters. This really makes the Salamanders feel more believable.
Salamanders are related to Dragons in European folklore because they wouls often be seen crawling out of logs as they were being burned; hence people thought they spawned from the fires
I fucking love these dudes. In the sea that is the "Grimdark everything is fucked up" world of 40K, its good to know these is a section of the empire that is still good and cares about Citizens.
“I did not hear a f$&@ing bell” has me dead.
Moral of the story with Salamanders: don't let the "teddy" part make you forget the "bear" part.
Salamanders were never supposed to justify anything any other Space Marines do. They're supposed to be the contrast point. The one unironically good chapter to make sure people understand the satire of all the others. They're the superheroes trying to help regular people, while the rest of the Imperial authorities (including all the other chapters and especially the ecclesiarchy and inquisition) are the anti-heroes and villains, oppressing civilians and pulling their strings or just mass murdering them.
My love for them honestly comes from their humanity and just how much it they have,compared to the rest of the imperium. Even though they basically became "demi-gods" after being selected for the Space Marine procedure,they were "mortal" once and they understand the value of and how precious a mortal life is; so unlike alot of other chapters their egos arent inflated
Fun fact: The Salamanders hate the Marines Malevolent chapter due to their wilful disregard for civilian casualties.
Salamanders are cool, I like the duality of caring protectors that use massive flamethrowers.
Could also be that I like green (my other army is Orks) or that Im closet pyromaniac 😅
At last, my boys! And yeah, you pretty much hit the nail on the head for why I love these guys. I adore flame weapons in games, I think dragons are just sweet, I like how they are just so physically big and I like that there’s a legion that embraces its humanity in order to protect others. Really great stuff, definitely going to grab some flamer units and paint them up as these guys soon.
Vulkan in my head is essentially Titan from FF 15
Edit: also yeah them being named after irl the smallest f**king creature ever and having the largest primarch is hilarious
Every salamander is chill until the microsecond that a dark eldar enters their visual field. Then it's on.
salamanders are my first army, and ironically enough, my dad’s first army too. can confirm, we’re just here to have a good time and burn stuff
I think it’s called ‘His Angels’ but there is a comic that got me into painting my salamanders of a space marine that fails to save a family from a plague marine and is just beside himself to the point of walking into the pyre to let go of the little girl’s space marine doll, it’s probably my favorite piece of fan art for warhammer out there
They are the single faction that i just identify with the most in all of 40k. I remember being 10 and looking through my 5th edition space marine codex and thinking how cool they are. Years later, i have got back into the hobby about 8 months ago and have slowly started my army of green huggy bois.
Salamander Uncle visiting his newborn nephew
"Can the young one speak?"
His Cousin "She can say mum and dad now"
Salamander "Great"
*few moments later
"Can you say Emperor's phosphorus? Holy Napalm? "
"It's also a hammer." Love this quote.
my favorite legion, have been waiting for you to get to them. now i will need you to do gray knights! the only downside to wanting to collect them as an army is, i am underwhelmed with options for making them look as different from the rest of the space marines as their lore feels. it's driven me down the road of "proxy minis" something fierce.
As someone who absolutely loves the salamanders.... Yes
How are u in the past watching this?
Its a nice touch they have far more contact with the people of their homeworld, teaching crafts and being visible examples of the Emperors might.
I learned of the Salamanders during the worldwide campaign for the Third War for Armageddon in the early 2000s, started collecting them, and never regretted it. They were the best boys out in that wasteland and it showed in every White Dwarf story.
Salamanders were my first army. I love their take on human supremacy, where they actually compassionately value human life while burning traitors and xenos alive. Also flame throwers are awesome and I love the paint scheme.
Treating people with respect and striving for fun rather than victory at my opponents expense has always been important to me (though I still try to win). I'm more likely to add something to my army because it's fluffy and fun, and I like to build a narrative with my opponent.
I more of an Ork fan, but I like the Salamanders of the space marines. It might be that I'm a little of a fire bug, but I like the trope of the gentle giant. We need more big, friendly, dangerous men in the setting if you ask me.
1:46 I almost laughed out my dinner.
Been waiting for this one. Salamanders are my fav. Their aesthetic, FIRE, crafters, FIRE, getting to be a general bro, MORE FIRE. I need to read more on there lore though.
Salamander fan hear
Nothing brings more joy than seeing the lone smile of a singular imperium guardsman that survived a horde of orks along with me
Here is what I will say I had LOTS of horrid experiences in my area, I think my area just might be a horrid area. But not one person I have met played Salamanders. So... I guess take that as confirmation?
I like how they burnt a small elf child.
Had it comin
As a professional, Salamanders simp, unarmed elf children are enemy combatants
Eldar: “I thought we were supposed to be the traumatic event, why are we getting ptsd?!?!”
Salamanders: “Flamer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr”
I've always loved Salamders and hello Arthur. Your videos are pretty cool.
Thanks for making them.
Also, imagine fem-astartes salamanders. You know their snu-snu would be cuddles based.
Great video! I like the chill, layed back, discusion you made with this video. A very serious video about 40k can be tedious and long to say the least. I can´t wait to see you talk about the Death Guard
I love the Salamanders. These walking chonky tanks being super kind to the populace around them.
I... I think I finally found a Chapter I can vibe with. Whenever friends would try to get me into Warhammer 40K, none of the chapters really sat right with me for one reason or another.
Legend says the reason the primarchs bones were even more reinforced then even your avarge space marines is not to hold up against enemy blows, it was just incase Vulcan gave them a bone crunching bear hug
Salamanders are the stoners of the Space Marine chapters. Chill, kind and give it all. One love broda.
Into the fires of battle! Unto the Anvil Of War!
Finally, Salamanders video, man. Love your stuff!
Salamanders have the best short stories and fan content out there. They’re what got me into 40k.
I like wholesome factions in 40K. It contrasts the rest of the setting and prevents it from being monotone grimdark.
They're my favourite legion because they actually have a REASON to go to war. To protect people they love.
"You forget Konrad it is also a hammer." Is by far my favorite line from Vulkan
I grew up in the utah west desert. Our school library had some salamanders (lil amphibian dudes not the giant angels of death) so whenever I hear the name of our green boys that's exactly what I think of.
pariah nexus is one of my all time favorite shows out there because we get to see a salamander operate. the salamanders has honestly become my favorite legion out there
As a Salamander player I've been excited to see your video of the legion since the start of the series and I was not disappointed. Thank you for showing the big friendly green giants the love they would show you XD. Love the content man
I need more, I need more of your videos now!!
I feel like if the Salamanders and the Ogryns formed one group, the overwhelming wholesomeness would decimate the enemies.
I have a fun anecdote where one person posted on both the black templar subreddit and salamander's on which to choose. The Salamanders provided a list of valid reasons one might enjoy them, the BT said something along the lines of, "YOU SHOULDN'T NEED CONVINCING TO SERVE IN THE GLORIOUS CRUSADE, OR YOU CAN GO SERVE WITH THE WEAK GRANNY SMITH MARINES"
I just love how they're all about protecting human lives rather than seeking glory, in a universe this dark its just a nice breath of fresh air
Love your upload schedule! Also, reading the Nightlord Trilogy based on your recommendation!
Other factions when they see a literal child: “hmm… this will make good bait to distract the enemy. But that screaming is annoying, let me just shut it up-“
The salamanders: “fuck the mission! Where’s your family? Let’s get you out of here, child. You are a citizen of the Emperor, you must be protected.”
Eldar Child: *Sweats nervously*
I took a quiz and apparently, this is the legion I was assigned.
I’m just happy you’re finally got here. I’ve been waiting since the thousands sons break down for this legion. They’re my favorite legion.
The salamanders and space wolves are the good guy space marines who are still basically human
Hey thx for doing a vid on my fav space marine legion and, Vulkan vs Konrad was amazing, keep on keeping on
Love your videos! Very original take
I to love the jooly green giants. Fun fact, they tend to be larger than marines of other chapters.
Sure their huggable nature is memed on a lot, like a lot a lot.
But I've never seen any marines go from 1 to 100 on the murder you with extreme prodigious scale as fast as the green boys.
The thing people forget is, their all about protecting humanity. And the moment, the second you betray humanity they are as ruthless and blood thrusty as a blood angel fallen to the black rage
And they have a special hate Bonner for the eldar. Especially the dark elder
I 100% am a Salamander stan because of their kindness. I've heard others say "I like this faction because they're vampires in space", or "...they're Vikings in space". Then I see the Salamanders and go, these guys are super nice and care about the people. I vibe with that.
The salamander player base are literally the "I have no enemies" meme