Except most people would probably save money with the subcription when you look at the amount of entertainment you get at the cost. Three regular priced games is the same price as a full year of gamepass
It’s a huge misstep with PSVR2 not supporting the 1st gen games. That’s a real bummer for gamers like me who invested a lot into the original VR library…
This is the literal reason why I'm not getting the VR2. But of course, the reason why it won't be backwards compatible are for legit reasons. It's just the nature of VR games.
@@eki4276 we don’t even know how much a 159 percentage growth mean and it’s Microsoft why do we care the growth of a billion dollar organization giving Netflix for gaming
A percentage without a solid number behind it is essentially meaningless. 16 is about a 159% increase over 10. Would it be impressive if they were talking about 16 new subscribers?
Most of those older games don’t even have a sequel nor a new game title .. like gta 5 and Red dead 2… and borderlands 3… we been waiting for ever ever and nothing they won’t drop prices until
Gaming and entertainment overall is now a luxury in the current economy. Especially now that we're over the pandemic. Other essentials are now higher in price, it makes sense that subscriptions will slow down.
@DreSaidSo Define "real games" Because you guys don't wanna say "Next-gen" because you'd have to admit Sony has several. Quality > Quantity. Basic economics.
I’d be a lot more interested in PSVR if it was self-contained. It’s a lot of money to spend on an accessory, especially an accessory that doesn’t even enhance your existing games but requires you to purchase a totally separate library. At that point I’d rather it just be its own thing, like a modern take on the PSP.
GamePass is not struggling lol. It's getting a lot more subscribers now through other means of pc and even cell phones. Their total subscribers has to be over 30 million by now.
@@jgbadblood414 They're showing how much of their own market GamePass takes up in just Xbox revenue which was only like 15%. As more consoles and games and accessories become more available next year your not going to see that GamePass percentage get bigger because everything else is going to grow with it. They're also being smart in how they word things for the CMAs making it look like they're not that dominant and still playing that poor little ole xbox role
@@LexVVTiS300 They set their goals high on purpose and typically miss those numbers, also they're still trying to put on a poor me show on for the CMA's. They're not hurting lol
@@BTMaverick707 they are losing men otherwise you will see phill bragging about the numbers its just xbox doing what they always do hide behind their failure
@@BTMaverick707 this is false. Companies don’t purposefully set goals too high otherwise they will rank their stock value when they miss. More often than not they sandbag and guide for lower growth so they can beat it. With game pass it’s the case that growth has slowed much faster than management had anticipated
PS Plus has way more subs and they didn’t even try lol whilst Game Pass is Xbox baby, they are obsessed with it and yet they still have a measly 30 million subs. Nobody interested in what Xbox is selling
@@oracle8589 Didn't ps lose subs ? And gamepass is way better and the ps has a bigger fan base so obviously they will be bigger but they're not better.
This was my thought too. Like we’re all getting killed by inflation these days. As people tighten their belts, the first thing to go will be entertainment subscriptions. Would love to have GamePass but I’m not going to dish out money for that right now
@@abeaucha very much agree. these dudes failed to mention that aspect, almost every country is experiencing all time high inflation and very basic commodities are sky rocketing in prices. low to middle class people who got console would probably think twice of getting entertainment subscriptions right now
PS Plus has all the big games that the majority of ps owner's had already purchased by the time it was revamped. The bulk of the games are bargain bin games that already existed on PS Now. And as expected by everyone, the classic line up is pathetic and won't improve much at all due to licensing.
They gonna drop three games that are amazing, somerville, vampire survival and ghost song, they might not be big budget games, but they are GREAT nevertheless
The argument that Sony should make PSVR2 compatible with PC is hilarious. They’re clearly not selling the headset at a profit, so they intend to make money on software. Sony makes absolutely no money from a user who buys the PSVR2 and uses it on PC.
gamepass keeps growing while ps plus lost 2m subscribers and yet IGN writes this kind of headline gaming news don't dare to comment anything bad about ps plus. If it was gamepass loosing 2m subscribers any gaming site will be making a big deal out of it
PSVR 2! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ you guys forgot to mention that resident evil village is coming to psvr 2, resident evil 4 remake will also be available to play with psvr2! You guys need a dedicated person to psvr for your channel. Their are great games that are coming and Sony will have more to announce as for games for the system soon
@@allwinissac4924 you do know right that xbox gamepass services are available everywhere except cuba, south east asia, and some european countries and ps is available in all of asia. pepega clap
They should put nba 2k22 back on gamepass. They already have last years game for every other sport. Ufc mlb nfl fifa nhl, no nba. It was on there but they pulled it when the new one came out lol
That's not true when it comes to game pass. Game pass on console isn't growing as fast because everybody on console already has it. But the PC game pass and the cloud game pass is exploding by like a 186% that's enormous
Phil in no way implied that prices will go up "sooner rather than later" Ryan. I expect a $1 a month increase for Game Pass in 2024. Games like Starfield might sell for $70.
Xbox shall always rule and with them owning about 75 percent the gaming market worldwide PC and ps with the purchase of Activision Bethesda Mojang blizzard Microsoft now holds all the cards making gamepass dominant
@@oracle8589 That's because Sony merged Playstation Now (which was dying with just 3 million subs at its peak) with PlaystationPlus. Most PlaystationPlus members are in the Essential tier just like they were before the merge, they don't even access to the GameCatalogue. If Microsoft merged XboxLive & GamePass it would be similar in terms of subscriber counts.
Let's pretend there are 100 people in the world. 50 Bought a product at launch 50 Bought the competitors Companies: "be like", We expect to sell 50 every month. But everyone has one already. Companies continued: We don't understand why people aren't buying the product anymore, -They must not be interested -The gaming world is done -Their touching grass.
Subscription services are NOT the way to go!! Content will fluctuate in value but pricing will continue to increase. Game ownership is forever the way to go! The value proposition lie is exactly that, a lie
Pointless to get PS+ when you can't buy Sonys console Perhaps instead of releasing 10,000 different peripherals Sony should concentrate on actually making their console available to buy 2 years after launch
Imagine saying still gaining subs and having a 30% console gain with 159% PC gains is comparable to PS plus losing 2m subs.. Boy it's sad how IGN can't just say PS plus is failing and instead have to cover Xbox gaining but not the 70% increase they WANTED smh..
Max scoville really has the information that one who didn’t do enough research and just banks in money for being there. Never surprises me the people they choose to hire when executives hire people and not ones who actually enjoy this stuff
As Ryan McCaffery said,it's the LACK OF 1ST PARTY GAMES...it's been an aging problem since the dawn of Xbox One....and that is why Microsoft made a desperate attempts at numerous acquisitions...to stay relevant with Sony's unmatched 1st party games.
PlayStation Plus brought into their tier system and pretended PS Classics would be a part of the highest tier…they’ve made two content releases of “Classics” and they don’t even have ten PS1 and PS2 games.
There's too many subscription services. Gamepass is full of old games(a few new games sprinkled in). PS Plus should only have 2 options basic and extra.
it has nothing to do with people going out , its a combination of people struggling for money and being offered not much in return .....make normal online play free again and watch the numbers go through the roof ....whoever does this first will win the console war
It’s kinda hard to gain subs when everyone already has already. It’s like they want the world so overpopulated just to have gamepass subs?! Doesn’t really make sense on the model..
do half the commentors not understand plain english, no one is saying sbox gamespass is not growing, you can still grow and have rates slow, hence why its called slow growth.
People are afraid to waste money on subscriptions to games when food gas and so much other crap is so damn expensive. Just not important enough
Couldn't have said that better
Except most people would probably save money with the subcription when you look at the amount of entertainment you get at the cost. Three regular priced games is the same price as a full year of gamepass
@@nategreatgames78 that's also true but a lot of people can't afford buying 3 AAA games a year. I'm even considering if the new cod is worth it
buying one games is more expensive which is like 60 or 70 dollars. it's cheaper using subscription which is only 16 dollars a month.
It’s a huge misstep with PSVR2 not supporting the 1st gen games. That’s a real bummer for gamers like me who invested a lot into the original VR library…
Hope you’re feeling better! 🙏
Probably getting remastered to be released at full price
Devs can just patch their games to support it.
This is the literal reason why I'm not getting the VR2.
But of course, the reason why it won't be backwards compatible are for legit reasons. It's just the nature of VR games.
Totally agree. It feels like we got burn again. PS should make a compatibility mode for the psvr.
Bc we are cutting down on the recurring bills. It’s 2022 & the cost of living is high af. The last thing we need is another monthly fee
Game pass grew 159% on pc, what're you talking about lol
That literally doesn’t mean anything
@@1kbmahan it actually does :)
@@eki4276 we don’t even know how much a 159 percentage growth mean and it’s Microsoft why do we care the growth of a billion dollar organization giving Netflix for gaming
You know if you had 0 before and gained 19 subscribers…..that the percentage would be super high for growth?
A percentage without a solid number behind it is essentially meaningless.
16 is about a 159% increase over 10.
Would it be impressive if they were talking about 16 new subscribers?
They need to lower the prices. They are giving out old games
Most of those older games don’t even have a sequel nor a new game title .. like gta 5 and Red dead 2… and borderlands 3… we been waiting for ever ever and nothing they won’t drop prices until
Ummm maybe cuz there aren't many games for next gen, even after 2 years now.
Exactly
The One-Eye VR Pirate joke was so organic, you three have become One. 🙏🏿
Gaming and entertainment overall is now a luxury in the current economy. Especially now that we're over the pandemic. Other essentials are now higher in price, it makes sense that subscriptions will slow down.
Gaming has always been a luxury especially in the 80s and 90s
@@KennyakaTI exactly lol
Games are only just now coming out.
This winter alone is pretty stacked.
@DreSaidSo Define "real games"
Because you guys don't wanna say "Next-gen" because you'd have to admit Sony has several.
Quality > Quantity. Basic economics.
Ratchet and clank rp, hfw, spiderman mm, forza horizon 5 are all next gen. Also demon souls.
Still enjoying my Game Pass🔥🔥
I’d be a lot more interested in PSVR if it was self-contained. It’s a lot of money to spend on an accessory, especially an accessory that doesn’t even enhance your existing games but requires you to purchase a totally separate library. At that point I’d rather it just be its own thing, like a modern take on the PSP.
Xbox series x/s is growing
Backwards
The market share is smaller than the 360 era.
GamePass is not struggling lol. It's getting a lot more subscribers now through other means of pc and even cell phones. Their total subscribers has to be over 30 million by now.
What do you mean. They showed they were lol. They can't lie to share holders
@@jgbadblood414 They're showing how much of their own market GamePass takes up in just Xbox revenue which was only like 15%. As more consoles and games and accessories become more available next year your not going to see that GamePass percentage get bigger because everything else is going to grow with it. They're also being smart in how they word things for the CMAs making it look like they're not that dominant and still playing that poor little ole xbox role
@@jgbadblood414 they told share holders that pc gamepass has increased 159%
Nobody plays on a phone lol that’s just like Sony remote play which no one uses the input lag is terrible
Only 30 million lol?
have they tried making consoles available for purchase
On Sony direct yea
Naw man that's not the problem clearly people just don't want a ps5 as bad as these people who buy them first to resell for more.
Have you thought about how smooth your brain is? Cause you’re not logically thinking just saying dumb stuff
Yes you need to look
They have you just have to look.
Spotify and Apple Cloud (for pictures and backup storages) @ 20:00
I'v had game pass ultimate for a long time now even told some people to get so idk what they saying plus Phil said it's still profitable for xbox
3billion is a lot of money just from the console side excluding pc gamepass
@@LexVVTiS300 They set their goals high on purpose and typically miss those numbers, also they're still trying to put on a poor me show on for the CMA's. They're not hurting lol
Actually he just said they reached their limit
@@BTMaverick707 they are losing men otherwise you will see phill bragging about the numbers its just xbox doing what they always do hide behind their failure
@@BTMaverick707 this is false. Companies don’t purposefully set goals too high otherwise they will rank their stock value when they miss. More often than not they sandbag and guide for lower growth so they can beat it. With game pass it’s the case that growth has slowed much faster than management had anticipated
lol it's just the PS plus hahaha
Facts
PS Plus has way more subs and they didn’t even try lol whilst Game Pass is Xbox baby, they are obsessed with it and yet they still have a measly 30 million subs. Nobody interested in what Xbox is selling
@@oracle8589 lol no
@@oracle8589 dont even have 30mil last number was 25
@@oracle8589 Didn't ps lose subs ? And gamepass is way better and the ps has a bigger fan base so obviously they will be bigger but they're not better.
Game pass 💯💖💖💖
Max seems way more likable than Jonathan better chemistry for the show in my opinion.
That’s because you have to find the consoles first 😂
Series X/S are easy to find.
Ps5 was in walmart lol
Would love a longer ngcw show, maybe 45 mins 🤔 every episode..
Watch it twice
@@LogicalPrime smooth
you people know that there is a financial crisis in most if not all countries right? why is this a suprise?
This was my thought too. Like we’re all getting killed by inflation these days. As people tighten their belts, the first thing to go will be entertainment subscriptions. Would love to have GamePass but I’m not going to dish out money for that right now
@@abeaucha very much agree. these dudes failed to mention that aspect, almost every country is experiencing all time high inflation and very basic commodities are sky rocketing in prices. low to middle class people who got console would probably think twice of getting entertainment subscriptions right now
YEAH DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING RIPPED OFF
Can't afford the 15-16 bucks for gamepass, while at the same time having enough food to eat for two weeks
Food is better
Drugs are better
@@crackflush yaya
microsoft rewards can get you game pass for $0
@@davidlee3871 that’s not the case for every country you know
The fact Phil Spencer hasn't mentioned any update of their upcoming games, makes me wonder if most of them will be delayed to the holidays of 2023?
That would be disastrous for xbox.
probably waiting till game awards
@@portalplayer Xbox players don't care about droughts, they will still play the 3rd party games. 3rdparty Series X
PS Plus has all the big games that the majority of ps owner's had already purchased by the time it was revamped. The bulk of the games are bargain bin games that already existed on PS Now. And as expected by everyone, the classic line up is pathetic and won't improve much at all due to licensing.
Psvr2 is gonna sell well. There’s plenty of people that like to get premium products
Hell nah. There ain't even enough ps5s in the wild yet.
PSVR1 was premium, sold only 5m units with over 110m PS4s out there.
@@jepoyburner 20 millions.
Very misleading title when Gamepass is growing at an incredible rate on PC 🤷🏻♂️
can we fix daemons muffled mic? been a few weeks now
Is this a podcast as well? Can't find it.
Gamepass games have been lacking recently for new titles, still worth getting though. EA pass on console needs more content.
if game pass that released 55 new 2022 games is lacking what can we say about ps+ which had only 2 indie games the entire year?.. people are weird
@@BRUTALSAMM Gamepass lackin though, we got GOW we dont need no subscription service to play games
Ea is evil , their old games is the most wanted
@@BRUTALSAMM Who told you that they released two games ?
They gonna drop three games that are amazing, somerville, vampire survival and ghost song, they might not be big budget games, but they are GREAT nevertheless
The argument that Sony should make PSVR2 compatible with PC is hilarious. They’re clearly not selling the headset at a profit, so they intend to make money on software. Sony makes absolutely no money from a user who buys the PSVR2 and uses it on PC.
Did Max replace the other guy from podcast beyond?
I've stopped my PS+ subscription. In my country there is no way to get a PS5 at retail price. It's just not readily available...
Imagine, Back in the day we used to worry about what game we were gonna buy now we gotta worry about subscriptions.😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
ill take gamepass anytime of the day than ps 80$ per game lol
Cool. Have fun playing games nobody wanted to buy 6 years ago.
the problem is you have no game that deserve 80$ on gp lol
Enjoy renting games much?
But you guys literally have no blockbuster games this year 🤣
@@pixeljauntvr7774 tell me you have never used gamepass without telling me
gamepass keeps growing while ps plus lost 2m subscribers and yet IGN writes this kind of headline gaming news don't dare to comment anything bad about ps plus. If it was gamepass loosing 2m subscribers any gaming site will be making a big deal out of it
Bc it’s just as hard to get a console tf 😂
And lower prices too
@Sony Alpha Adventure some games are only available on the newer consoles
Dude Xbox series s and x it's easy to finde than a ps5
You can get Game Pass in your PC.
@@raven7988-v5n but who wants that 😂
PSVR 2! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ you guys forgot to mention that resident evil village is coming to psvr 2, resident evil 4 remake will also be available to play with psvr2! You guys need a dedicated person to psvr for your channel. Their are great games that are coming and Sony will have more to announce as for games for the system soon
Vr is a small market
Release it in india with cloud gaming
The margins still be huge
Go and play your pubg and free fire you guys are still not ready for this kind of contents..
@@allwinissac4924 wtf is ur problem
@@allwinissac4924 what are you talking about game pass and ps plus or whatever is already available in India.
Only cloud gaming is not available
@@allwinissac4924 you do know right that xbox gamepass services are available everywhere except cuba, south east asia, and some european countries and ps is available in all of asia. pepega clap
If it was available in my country, xbox game pass PC would be a no brainer
Great Stuff, as always!
They should put nba 2k22 back on gamepass. They already have last years game for every other sport. Ufc mlb nfl fifa nhl, no nba. It was on there but they pulled it when the new one came out lol
A ps5 and psvr2 bundle for €50 less or a €50 PSN voucher with the psvr2 standalone would be a great way to launch this.
We’re staring down the barrel of a recession, what do they expect?!
Great video!
That's not true when it comes to game pass. Game pass on console isn't growing as fast because everybody on console already has it. But the PC game pass and the cloud game pass is exploding by like a 186% that's enormous
Hopefully subscriptions die off not everything needs to be a monthly payment
PSVR2 $550US in a recession. 🧐
Cuz PS+ is too expensive, if they cut 20% I'll subscribe
Daemon would not be hosting Next Gen Microphone Watch.
PS plus imo needs to drop the tiers. Its super confusing on the ps5 going through it all just make 2 price models and put everything in on category.
Agreed.
Phil in no way implied that prices will go up "sooner rather than later" Ryan. I expect a $1 a month increase for Game Pass in 2024. Games like Starfield might sell for $70.
Damien's audio always sounds muffled.
Well they shouldn’t have charged 199.99
Xbox shall always rule and with them owning about 75 percent the gaming market worldwide PC and ps with the purchase of Activision Bethesda Mojang blizzard Microsoft now holds all the cards making gamepass dominant
Yet they still have a way less subscribers than PlayStation, so how’s that dominance working out for ya?😆😆😆
What on earth are you talking about. The Xbox has the smallest markets share and in their own words "last place on PC."
3rd place isn't winning
@@oracle8589 That's because Sony merged Playstation Now (which was dying with just 3 million subs at its peak) with PlaystationPlus. Most PlaystationPlus members are in the Essential tier just like they were before the merge, they don't even access to the GameCatalogue. If Microsoft merged XboxLive & GamePass it would be similar in terms of subscriber counts.
Xbox doesn’t own PC buddy 😂 the biggest PC game marketplace is steam which Microsoft gets exactly zero dollars from
Sont taking Ls
Essential Subscriptions to keep forever - Netflix, Prime, PS Extra (Have PS Premium Right now)
Viewtiful Joe Red Hot Rumble on PS + NOW PLEASE!!!!!
Let's pretend there are 100 people in the world.
50 Bought a product at launch
50 Bought the competitors
Companies:
"be like",
We expect to sell 50 every month.
But everyone has one already.
Companies continued:
We don't understand why people aren't buying the product anymore,
-They must not be interested
-The gaming world is done
-Their touching grass.
Subscription services are NOT the way to go!! Content will fluctuate in value but pricing will continue to increase. Game ownership is forever the way to go! The value proposition lie is exactly that, a lie
Completely agree.
Pointless to get PS+ when you can't buy Sonys console
Perhaps instead of releasing 10,000 different peripherals Sony should concentrate on actually making their console available to buy 2 years after launch
y but PC GP went skyrocking by 160% while the only big games we had so far are far few between them
This only serves as evidence for Sony as to why they still charge top dollar for their 1st party games.
Every other site reported game pass going up and sony losing 2million subs but whatever.
Imagine saying still gaining subs and having a 30% console gain with 159% PC gains is comparable to PS plus losing 2m subs.. Boy it's sad how IGN can't just say PS plus is failing and instead have to cover Xbox gaining but not the 70% increase they WANTED smh..
Nothing in Game Pass interest me...
Gamepass grew by 28%, PS+ lost 2m users. 28% is hardly struggling.
Im a new subscriber to game pass but for my gaming pc not xbox still got my ps5
Max scoville really has the information that one who didn’t do enough research and just banks in money for being there.
Never surprises me the people they choose to hire when executives hire people and not ones who actually enjoy this stuff
As Ryan McCaffery said,it's the LACK OF 1ST PARTY GAMES...it's been an aging problem since the dawn of Xbox One....and that is why Microsoft made a desperate attempts at numerous acquisitions...to stay relevant with Sony's unmatched 1st party games.
of course there is a struggle to find new subscribers. everyone is just trying to get through each day while more and more $$$ is sent to ukraine.
What ever happen to the playstation guy that was always on this show? Just curious.
He probably wasn’t willing to go along with their narrative.
@@michaellynch9550 what's the narrative?
@@michaellynch9550 asking for a friend
He left IGN.
He works for naughty dog.
PlayStation Plus brought into their tier system and pretended PS Classics would be a part of the highest tier…they’ve made two content releases of “Classics” and they don’t even have ten PS1 and PS2 games.
There's too many subscription services. Gamepass is full of old games(a few new games sprinkled in). PS Plus should only have 2 options basic and extra.
You clearly have never used Gamepass
@@TheBean87 who are you? You don't know what I've used. Mf's get on my nerves.
@@jeffreysmith7377 don’t need to know what you’ve used, just need to know the correct information to spot a clear liar.
@@TheBean87 don't need to justify myself to some random dude in youtube comments. ✌🏾✌🏾
@@jeffreysmith7377 just saying if you don’t think there’s new games on there you haven’t been using the service. That’s just facts.
it has nothing to do with people going out , its a combination of people struggling for money and being offered not much in return .....make normal online play free again and watch the numbers go through the roof ....whoever does this first will win the console war
Why ? Because it’s sooo expensive !!
Ryan just so you know, part of why Sony can invest so safely into VR, despite its niche market, is because of COD. Just remember that.
Not for long ...
It’s kinda hard to gain subs when everyone already has already. It’s like they want the world so overpopulated just to have gamepass subs?! Doesn’t really make sense on the model..
Mic check. One, two, one, two.
Put better games on !! Open up the library!! That would help !!
Pc is the way to go :)
Very awesome
in my experience they don't need success to keep pushing something.....ask netflix
Who Is a better
Not only that games are so expensive smh
Probably struggling to grow because everyone’s already got game pass and psplus, psplus is basically essential on ps4
130 million ps4/5 consoles sold.
47 million ps plus subscribers.
Again, Xbox Series X/S and PS5 are CURRENT GEN....durp. Matte black 1TB Xbox Series S would be swell.
Don't know why there isn't a black series s. Would be cool the lighting logo would stand out even more
V-Arrr! 🏴☠
here's an idea make is so that if you play a game for a 100 hours you get it permanently huh huh.....
$550 is nothing. Wait until the scalpers rise the price🤣
How about they make better games
Meanwhile its nit just hard to find ps5 its impossible to find a new ps4 too 🤷♂️
Cause yall already got everybody there is to get, Damm! Stop being greedy!
Games just feel like work these days.
Xbox desperately needs some bigger style titles. Gamepass is just indie stuff atm. While that's cool, it's just not cutting it.
When the Activision blizzard acquisition completes cod will be on it
Didn’t they just release deathloop and a plagues tale requiem??
Just indie stuff? Tell me you don’t have gamepass without saying you don’t have it
do you even know the gampeass ultimate catalogue lol?
@@TheBean87 Deathloop is meh, so there’s only one decent game you mentioned there.
Because theirs no games 🗣️
do half the commentors not understand plain english, no one is saying sbox gamespass is not growing, you can still grow and have rates slow, hence why its called slow growth.
The games this month on game pass are so underwhelming I’m considering canceling
Yes