Yooooo a manga adaptation has been announced for Needy Streamer Overload. Maybe in two or three years we may get an anime adaptation to go along with it.
6:30 SHUT THE HELL UP BRO BEGGING U this started as a super great video introducing me about something I didnt know and now suddenly u r talking about the endings without a spoiler warning, please fix that in the future, I loved the Amy/Ame part but the spoilers now made me from happy to mildly upset. Ill get over it, but pls do spoiler section warning and timestamp to skip to or something for future videos. It looks like i game i want to play. And I love so much about hearing about the background and style and other things around and behind it. Not so much visuals or plot points about actual endings, avoid specifics pls pls pls ok thx for making the video still tho.
Ame-chan is extremely BPD coded, she practically bingoes the DSM-V for it, it's what makes the game so good and relatable to people with said disorder, like myself, but I feel like that gets lost with the general audience, specially now that it's booming a lot, and it just becomes an 'I can fix her' simulator
yeah i agree i relate to her a lot and i suffer with bpd myself and this game is one of the main reasons i actually went out of my way to seek treatment back in 2022! im really glad this game is picking up more traction so other people can use it as a possible gateway to get help if they need it!
I’m not even gonna lie to you the whole “neurodivergent people are cute” or “I can fix her” thing does not make sense to me as a neurodivergent person. This game is extremely good and shows the influence of actions aswell as most likely schizophrenia. This game is originally about a girl with probably schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, possibly BPD, to become an influence in the world, however, people turned it into a “I can fix her” sort of game. Don’t get me wrong, nothing wrong with people taking turns and twisting the game to their enjoyment, but the whole “I can fix her” thing is sort of creating false hope since you can’t really fix a person like you can a robot. I love how much deeper this game goes though.
Funny thing is, i feel like the game forces you to experience all the stress with being a popular social media influencer, because if you try to "fix her" the game ends early with her becoming a normie or something 😂
I mean, I interpret it as people making a joke? Neurodivergent here as well. I thought the "I can fix her" thing was a twist on irony, because you're saying you can fix someone that obviously is too far gone.
Personally I think it's the same attractive concept as when I watched Mirai Nikki (Future Diary, Yuno Gasai). The idea that I am a broken failing disappointment of a person barely struggling through life, but: 1, somebody like that can find romance, and 2, somebody like that would settle for me, since I'm highly aware anybody functional would be out of my league. ...back to studying and suffering now, enough of these dumb daydreams of working through life's struggles not being alone.
Hello! Borderline person here! This was one of the insane reasons I adore this game, Ame acts like CONCERNINGLY like myself. I am getting the help I need to address my problems, DBT therapy and I am thankful for an amazing support system. But even with that this is how I act or at the very least feel, ACTUAL representation of the "crazy girl" troupe. Like it is so romanticized, but actually seeing it here- attempting to cover with cute designs all while being unable to due to how toxic abusive or ugly especially to the player it is a realistic view to it. The trend of trying to make mental health cute is bullshit, this game sort of uses that and doesn't hold back from facing the realities- making it less and less desirable as it goes on. Anyways- I remember making my boyfriend play this w me and he laughed so much considering like most of her dialogue are things I've said no joke WORD FOR WORD before. Ame I think is one of the best representations of BPD, at least for me- including the dissociative, extreme self-image issues, and desperate need for attention. Sorry for my ramble! I really adore her, and not shying away from showing how disgusting these disorders can be, all while showing their own viewpoint how difficult and self-destructive it is.
I don't have anything like bpd myself, but this game gave me a lot more understanding and empathy for those who do have it. I hope you're doing well and managing it alright :)
im borderline too and ame, especially during her "breakdown stream"s show how i feel PERFECTLY when i'm struggling. she is so much like me, especially the way she types. i'm also hoping to start DBT soon :) good luck on your journey of self improvement!!!
Holy shit, i didnt know this game was so popular, at most i only knew some vtubers were playing it but not at the level to get an anime, now im excited. If the anime is not 99% rng and drugs i would be dissapointed xD
@booba tea stop lying. You have an Onimai clip. You're no normie. Both songs are also in Muse Dash. That's the first time I heard Internet Overdose. Internet Yamero wasn't out yet. About a year ago? Maybe?
@@BoobaMilkTea As the story itself is "short" it would be interesting to see how they make an end for each chapter. but generally making adaptations to VN's anime never do justice to the original work, seeing how they made fate/sn and danganronpa is :(
I hope if they do make an anime based on Needy Girl Overdose, that it's just as freaky as the short. This kind of story would really do well as a dark psychological thriller.
In a broken society, "fitting in" is no more healthy than how the outcasts conduct themselves. I think it's part of the healing process for some people to be attracted to dark themes-- like this game.
@@fwa8590 It's an alternative to the obsession of being a "good person"; always having to appear perfect, never burdening others, always saying "yes" when you wanna say "no", always sacrificing our own desires for sake of the majority and their perception they strongarm as the (*only*) moral one, etc. Force people to be "good" long enough, and you get a lot of burnt-out people that are terrified to be even remotely authentic for fear of total rejection. Conveniently however, modern society has offered a loophole in the form of mental illness, where people have a respected and logical excuse to back up their "abnormal" behavior, when really, these people were predisposed to these kinds of behaviors already, but time spent pretending they weren't has created an effect like a rubberband; the more tension they've accumulated, the more violently they spring back. It's more pronounced in the modern era because it isn't just a single person doing it within our respective small communities, but instead a whole global generation feeling suffocated under the weight of glorified homogeneity.
Is that something you think or heard someone say, or a fact established by people with experience and knowledge in psychology? Beyond that, is it a disputed "fact" or accepted by the majority?
I get that man, it reminds me of myself a long time ago now back at the end of Jr Highschool. Sometimes the best solution is to just be left to brood with the sadness assuming you aren't at a suicidal/destructive state yet and get over it yourself. It's always better if you have a family you trust though to help you through it but that's not uncommon to not be in that situation nowadays...
I think what makes NSO so "real" is because although Ame-chan is an exaggeration, the reality is that there are entire ecosystems of internet users that are like her - for people who are in the internet long enough, we've always seen someone like Ame-chan
Romanticization of mental issues is harmful. I personally struggled with them and the most haunting feeling was the rampant doubt if I really am not healthy. "What if I'm just pretending and I am lazy?" or "This is just my mind trying to get friends by fitting in." were the types of thoughts that would plague me every time I had a day that could be called good, which meant I could get out of bed and do anything other than stare at the ceiling. It still wrecks me to this day, even after years of therapy, that everything may be fake, almost like a weird case of imposter syndrome.
That sort of behaviour can get really extreme with some mental illnesses. Sadly, between the sheer amount of people that actually fake it, bad self-diagnosis and the kind of people that tell you to just "smile more", I think this defence mechanism has become even more problematic than it used to be.
I knew it was popular but yeah not this much, like- Yeah the music is cool and the dynamic is attractive, but the anime was kinda surprising, not like fully surprising because NSO did a collab with Muse Dash, which also did a collab with Arknights, it was possible to happen but still unexpected
at 8:10 when addressing fake mental illness on places like tiktok, the person stimming isnt fake at all! stimming doesnt always have to be linked to autism, its just a form of getting out energy and anyone can do it. Simple things such as tapping your foot can be stimming :)
yes i was about to comment about this. felt kinda in poor taste to place a real person in the video while talking about people “faking”. especially with a video of someone just stimming, as that’s not really something that even can be fake, as it’s a soothing thing, and not like tics
8:35 , about the neurodivergent part, im not sure if you have mistaken or anything but BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder and not BiPolar Disorder, Bipolar is just called Bipolar and Ame's situation is much more of BPD. That part actually says Borderline Personality Disorder, ofcourse since the game never straightup announced her mental illness. It's just that I wish this would be clear,, I thought it may be rude to those who actually have such illness For the 12:06 Jesus KAngel thing, its actually a canon part of ending if you go onto the Conspiracy Theory stream route. I wont spoil much about this but she technically believes she's a new god and a new way to dominate world is to reduce Earth's population by 90%
By the way, the reason why a lot of people got Needy Streamer Overload in May was because May 5th was Ame-Chan's birthday, leading to from what i remember a 35% (ish) discount on the game. Also, the manga (I think) is really just free advertising for NSO, and not really focused on Ame-Chan/Kangel at all nor have the same sort of lore, just pretty looks.
I'm surprised its popularity skyrockets again. I remember first time finding out about it from ManlyBadassHero's gameplay & at that time there wasn't a lot of ppl talking about the game on social media. Then a lot of RUclipsrs & Vtubers started playing the game too, after that its hype went down for a bit but apparently it's picking up again damn.
Manly has collecting the Mentally unstable anime Girl like Pokemon since beginning of time.still waiting for his full playthrough for Dice Psycho though(Although,he already stated that full playthrough of the game Will bore people and Will get a strike because it is really dark and full of NSFW stuff)
While I am against the "I can fix her" sentiment and the fetishisation of mental health and neurodiversity, something is so comforting about seeing a character that I feel I can relate to, especially since the game is so personalized.
The best thing about this game is that it absolutely does not glorify the main Charracters mental illness it's presented as something that's good for her or that everything will be fine, you literally cannot fix or save her
honestly this game has been one of the few cases where i've gotten a sort of "gatekeep" like attitude with a video game, as it was something i followed for a while before it really took off. as a (genuinely and professionally diagnosed) borderline girl who kinda lived her teenage years obsessing over social media and forming a following of strangers i was never mentally stable enough to handle, i related a lot to the game and found it to be really solid representation. it doesn't sugarcoat or romanticize shit, but it tells a story of both recovery and absolute self destruction depending on what path you take. i'm partially glad it's gotten popular, and i'm partially horrified at how its message will misconstrued
fr, i saw some mf saying that ame is "overexaggerated" despite the fact shes a very relatable character for a lot of people out there and very real representation....ppls media literacy BAFFLES me these days
@@hiiragii This really sucks because i'm just here like "bitch **I** know real people who are like this" And I should not have related to P-Chan's situation as much as I did
i was in this same situation too, i couldn’t help but feel some sort of overprotective-ness towards the games and seeing it get as popular as it is now, it’s a bit scary since some people will think it’s just being “unrealistic”. also i think the game and MVs pay a great homage to 2000’s visual novel culture that a lot of people won’t be able to appreciate (especially those outside of japan)
As a bipolar person the fact that there's some people out there who thinks it's hot makes me die inside. Not to mention the people who fake it as well. Literally all mental illness is dealing with a consistent issue in your life that gets better and worse. The closest thing I can compare it to is having a sprain or other injury and having to work around it. Imagine if someone straight up told you they wished they had a wrist sprain like you cause that'd make them "special". It sounds stupid because it literally is. Wtf is life man? 😓 Edit: Also remember other than having mental illness suck we live normal lives like anyone else! We have happy times and sad times with jobs, hobbies, and relationships be it friends or partners. Also please know this only applies to mental illness so keep that in mind!
@@ttowell My dude are you trolling? It's basically the equivalent of someone telling you your suffering is hot. For example, if you had someone close die and someone found you hot because of your grief. It basically dehumanizes us 👍Also almost half of the total population in the US has something like depression in their lifetime and that's not including people that don't self-report. This kind of thing presents itself in a less extreme way than people would think a lot of the time and is way more common too. We're just human dude, it's not that interesting, and we're basically everywhere. Dealing with shit is just part of being human. Like I also have bad anxiety and can describe it as "Thinking about things that make me nervous." Now it doesn't sound that interesting now does it? That's because it's really not. Even my boyfriend with anti-social personality disorder so "spooky" and "interesting" is just a shitposter weeb that can be blunt without thinking and makes up for it afterwards. Like I said not that interesting. Also anyone can develop a mental illness, including you, under the right stressful conditions so it's just part of being human. The amount of people who have their first mental illness late in life from grief just shows that it's normal and programmed into all of us.
@@ttowell that implies it's taking the disorder with physical appearance to make it horny imo... how is that good? That just sounds like incel behavior
@Camille Valencia I can see how this suffering is hot angle gets obfuscated on the internet. We live in a society where people are praised for their disorders and abnormalities in different ways from something as simple as a participation award for mentally disabled people to getting documentaries about being a crippled athlete. Should something like that not get praise just cause it isn't a mental disorder and a physical one? Where is the line drawn with this crap? Only line I can think that should is when people get horny over it 🤔
@@AlphaladZXA Yeah basically if you look around anywhere or talk to people with mental illness it sucks for them. It's just another hurdle in life to deal with out of many because it's just 'basic human experience but bad enough to effect your life now'. That's the only difference because every disorder is felt to some extent like being messy or being anxious over a test but when it starts to interfere in your life that's when it starts to be a mental illness. Heck even it can even apply to some forms of schizophrenia since at least 80% of all humans hallucinate when awake for 48 hours which actually makes extreme sleep deprivation hallucinations normal in humans (Every time someone tries to stay awake for as many days as possible they hallucinate so it does seem to be programmed into humanity in general). Heck wanna understand what hypomania's like? Take 2 red bulls at once (Don't recommend but it causes a very similar effect in people). I also described how my bipolarism gets worse with periods and when I mentioned that it's like a period every girl in the class instantly understood what it was like mostly and could sympathize as a fellow human since it finally clicked for them. That's what people kinda don't realize sadly and funnily enough I notice people who have fetishized mental illness or wanted it have discriminated against it at the same time since we're no longer viewed as human and just shows that a lot of people just don't understand how it works (despite these conditions being _very_ human as shown above). I do like seeing people like me improve and accomplish stuff in the same way I would for anyone else though. It's why I like to look at all manga artists progress over time so self-improvement is pretty cool 😊
What I've learned is how incredibly out of the loop I am while being ahead of the curve? I'm technically a long term Aiobahn fan, Literally played Needy Girl Overdose day one and have read Oshi no ko since late 2020 while not being the wiser to how much these things have popped off aside from Oshi no ko. I'll take this opportunity to simp for Aiobahn and recommend checking out his less popular music, Re:seachlight goes unfathomably hard to my taste. (Also I can't lie I never did finish the game and just watched an all endings playthrough)
It’s about a girl who thinks being a streamer will fix her life, unaware of exactly how bad the worst case scenarios can get. I hate how I can relate to her
Anyone with a long term bipolar friend would kinda be disgusted by the fetishization of this. Shits hard just being a friend, these idiots don’t know what the hell they’re on about. Love the game, hate the players. People unironically seeking the lifestyle criticized by Me Me Me
@durandus676 Personally as one bipolar person massive respect to you being there for your friend and standing up for people like us! Thank you so much!
I have been called neurodivergent several times for certain behaviors, the truth is that I was trying not beat the hell out of them and control my anger problems :)
Her: "Self-Love, he don't love himself, tryna love me." How can you love someone if you can't even love yourself? Him: "I can fix her" How can you fix someone if you need fixing too? Fuck, I might send people straight to therapy with that one.
Mental illnesses do not equal neurodivergence. The whole point of the term is that conditions like autism or dyslexia aren’t actually dysfunctional, they’re just different processing systems with upsides and downsides. The reason why they’re disorders is because they impact the patients life, not because they’re inherently dysfunctional. Something like bipolar or DID is absolutely dysfunctional. A healthy person in a healthy home should not be developing these conditions. Neurodivergence is something you’re born with and will have regardless of your home or outside environment. It really bothers me when people throw around these terms without understanding why proper use is important.
@@mat7258 we don’t know that. Something can have genetic / hereditary *factors* and still not be something you’re born with. You can have the gene but the gene has to be triggered by something. Like trauma for example. There is no evidence suggesting that people are born with DID. I don’t think there is for bipolar either. We don’t know all the factors that go into developing these illnesses and we probably won’t for a long time. All we can do for now is shuffle around their classifications until they seem accurate enough.
@@toastitostostitos6357 an illness, disorder, disease, syndrome, ect. You even said “mental illness”. That’s exactly the term that works for those conditions. Yes they’re atypical but neurodivergent has gained a more specific meaning than it’s etymology at this point.
Streaming is such a mentally and physically taxing thing, I guess you'll need all the support you can have from close friends and family to keep yourself from ending in a wreck?
A clarification on the whole "I can fix her" thing: the game seems to encourage simulation of the dark paths Ame can take by streaming. One "standard game over" called "Normie Life" is where you make her "Mental Darkness" drop to zero and she decides "naw, I don't need to become famous to feel loved". That technically counts as you actively influencing her to become more well-adjusted mentally. Now, the best argument against the "I can fix her" mindset is in that "removing all responsibility from someone for healing from their issues... will not help them heal and will bring more harm or even abuse on you". That said, the only way I think the game discourages the "I can fix her" mindset *is a VERY VERY HUGE SPOILER BELOW:* *MASSIVE SPOILER HERE:* P-Chan, as in the player character, is an imaginary friend of Ame's. This is only revealed if you 100% the game, and it _can_ come off as saying "you can't force someone to discard maladaptive coping mechanisms; you can only hope they'll do it themself".
Wait are personality disorders, disassociative disorder or bipolar disorders neurodivergent traits? Aren't those conditions developmental/mental illnesses? I thought neurodivergence was an inherent trait instilled into people from birth?
neruodivergent is a blanket term for basically thinking differently. those conditions would fall under neurodiversity. You could develop schizophrenia later in life and then be classified as neurodivergent. Pretty much much anyone can say they are "neurodivergent" in a way, but being schizo/BPD/etc is like the actual disorder which much fewer ppl are (outside of the internet lol). tbh the term neurodivergent lacks meaning - if you have a certain disorder, best to just use that term instead - rather than the blanket term.
I think you somewhat misunderstand mental illness but you’re almost there. There is no such thing as a mental illness that is purely “nurture”. Almost every mental illness has both a nature and nurture element, even PTSD. Some people are more predisposed to certain disorders, others are not. I suppose if you are predisposed to an anxiety disorder and a stressful environment causes you to develop one you could say it was instilled or inflicted upon you, but the triggering event is more like the straw that breaks the camels back.
@@floofzykitty5072 I feel like that's different though. That is latency vs full development. Because if we start getting into semantics people can develop just about anything under the right circumstances, so I feel like while sure we can say that there is a nature aspect to it it's not set in stone that it will fully manifest until the right conditions are met to develop that illness. Cuz really people can become anything, so I don't see them as really breaking the camel's back in most instances
Yo. I actually encounter this discussion on an autistic forum. They said the first person who coined the first use of neurodivergent was an autistic trans person and they said that everyone who does not have the normal default brain status is neurodivergent. That includes mental illnesses and disorders however some of the autistic community reject that idea but understand why that is the case. They want to have a new term given to those who are actually born with it like adhd and autism. While simultaneously keeping the neurodivergent open to everyone thats not neurotypical. Except the “new term” is yet to be decided. For now
personality disorders (BPD/borderline personality disorder, OCD, schizophrenia to name a few) as considered neurodivergent because they affect the way someone thinks, which is why they're called personality disorders. i believe dissociative disorder are also considered neurodivergent i believe. bi polar disorder is typically considered neurodivergent, but it's a mood disorder and i'm not sure if other mood disorders like depression for example are as well. neurodivergence isn't necessarily a trait but a term used to describe someone who thinks different/ their symptoms or mannerisms because of the autism spectrum or a disorder (like BPD for example). people on the autism spectrum are born with it, and people with a disorder usually develop it as a child, often times the same with mood and dissociative disorders. most neurodivergent people are born that way or develop that way as a child while their brain is developing, but some develop it later in life because of trauma, though it's rare it still could happen! though i am passionate about this i'm not an expert so if you'd like to know more i suggest looking it up online on trusted medical websites or other neurodivergent people's opinions, since it's mostly an opinion thing. i just gave my account of what i know as a person who's neurodivergent with BPD + other things :)
Needy Girl(specifically the Menhera aspect) seems to be the more accepted, more mild version of the Yandere. Yandere enthusiasts have been fans of this genre for a loooong looong time already. So glad it's hitting mainstream more instead of the tsundere.
IDK maybe it’s a psychological thing but I think people find “hot people” with red flags hotter than “hot people” with green flag. As a girl I saw most of romance comic ML are always edgy like dark lord, demon king, prince charming with dark dirty secret etc. while the green flag guys with stable mental health got no b1t#h. Also when popular shows have “hot” antihero with tragic past you instantly know the fandom gonna be big af
(Spoiler alert for the game itself) At its face, the game may well seem like an "I can fix her" simulator, but if you get deeper into various metaphors and details of the game's narrative across different endings, it is arguably possible that P-chan is likely a fictional character in Ame-chan's own head. I know this is still subjective and everyone may have their own interpretation, but if you view it in this way, the whole game immediately is all about Ame's own struggle and (maybe) redemption of her neurodivergent self. And I think that is the part that makes me feel this is a great game.
It’s insane how popular this series has become present day, I remember seeing it back then and it was great to see how interesting the game was, but it’s still surprising how popular it got
Didn't expect to see a video of need streamer overdose today, kudos to you man this made remember how entertaining watching streamers play this game was
nah - i'm just hoping for one - but they made an anime short, so there's a possibility, i mentioned it at the end of the video, check the timestamps - but I just put a link to it in the description now
I swear, the name "Windose" sounds like some medicine name that Microsoft would make lmao, besides some word probably referring to some computer being overdosed with every Windows version, from 1.0 up until 11.
I never really went "I Can Fix Her" I have seen enough mentally ill fictional women that there is no "fixing them" or really even "making them worse" its more of a "we will be horrible together kinda thing" I also have always had a thing for Yandere's which probably means my type is literally mentally ill women.
I remember watching manlybadasshero's video about it and I found the game appealing as well as triggering. It made me reflect on interaction we have with well known people on the internet and unhealthy parasocial relationships. Suffering from mental health condition (whether I'm classified as neurodivergent or not), this whole "I can fix her" or "ND woman are so hot" whole thing was pretty unconfortable, but I knew it was going to happen with the rise of "jirai-kei" since 2020. Also I would like to add some informations about this subculture and their "fashion". This style of clothing wasn't originally tied to it and was just called "girly-kei" (wich is essentially a type of kawaii fashion) but this J-fashion boomed in the Jirai/menhera spaces but it isn't the only one fashion associated with them. What I'm trying to say is that Jirai/menheras are less a fashion but more a subculture, unhealthy or not. It really is a big summary of this whole complex topic that I was able to grasp as a J-fashion enjoyer (mainly into lolita fashion). I'd recommend checking DIFFERENT blogs that explains in depth the whole thing, be aware that it has heavy subjects and is not meant for everyone.
Your video made me immediately buy needy girl overdose so i can stream it this week. Thank you for letting me know it existed, gonna subscribe as the video was well researched and well made
Fr, after goin through a relationship with a BPD girl myself, being needy and/or unstable isn’t just a turnoff, it’s my moral obligation not to get involved romantically. Ppl need to learn that being unstable is a reason to avoid relationships and get help first, cause no matter how much you feel companionship would feel like paradise in comparison, the chance of you just spreading your suffering to them is astronomically high. All those attracted to broken ppl, are textbook examples of looking for abuse and subconscious enabling, if you’re attracted to that you’re also not fit for relationships and need therapy.
for those who dont know about the "jesus" looking kangel, its one of the endings you can get in the game where basically kangel starts seeing stuff after doing magic paper and decides to start a religion
I did not expect Star Twinkle Precure to be that much of an influence on Needy Streamer Overload. I mean, I knew the endings were very vaporwave, but I was under the assumption that the aesthetic had been around since long before 2019.
12:01 this is referencing an ending in NSO , where kangel ends up creating a cult the man probably is obsessed with kangel so much where he thinks shes a god
It's very interesting what you pointed out about how the game is at the peak of its popularity right now. I've been aware of the game for a long while as an avid viewer of Hololive, but only just recently did I finally play it. Since then, I've absolutely fallen in love with it. I don't even remember what it was that pushed me to look into it now.
I'm autistic and have terrible anxiety but the way Ame-chan acts really does resonate with me, especially me when I'm in love, it kinda scares me lmao.
I like this game purely because it is genuinely creepy, in a very creative way. They really captured the crazy girl vibe on her, i just actively feel bad for the characters, and the safety of the MC lol…even the music left me feeling uncomfortable. Both music “internet overdose” and “internet yamero” is fire tho.
This is my guilty pleasure I do understand everything wrong with romantizing mental ilness but it does relieve me from some pain of existing and satisfies my urges without hurting other people. Great vid
2:55 You make an amazing point here. A great though kinda niche example of this was a couple years ago when "schizo posts/edits" were just getting some popularity. Those videos featured flashy aesthetics and had remixed songs that fit in with the theme aswell as the "unhinged/insane" subject matter which can be comedic or just interesting in general. And I believe this similarity is a key selling point for this game.
I find it sad that it's become trendy to show neurodivergent behaviour. Mostly sad on two part in my opinion. First off the two is that they only show a certain selective part of neurodivergent behavour that they find "interestin". Like I myself have ADHD and have my troubles, but that in the trends it's mostly seen as something not that bad and just you cannot focus or are hyperactive, but that's far from the truth in what struggles there are in day to day life. Secondly it makes people self-"diagnose". I'll keep to what I know of stuff. And that is ADHD. You see people in the comments of those videos saying that now they finally know why they can't focut at school or something like that. But it's not so black and white with those things. In my opinion it's harmfull to say you have something via self-diagnosis. My opinion on this stuff is very negative and I wish it would just not exist, but everything I see on social media on ADHD makes it feel like I lost the lottery on it and got all things worse. The only place that is not so intense is Reddit, but that's got it's own problems. This comment is one part of my troubles, sitting at midnight ranting about stuff instead of sleeping.
Yeah I feel you, I don't like people boiling ADHD down to "bad at school" and "easily distractied". I did very good at school but only because I was obsessed about my grades and hyperfocused on studying for hours, leaving me with no time to do other things sometimes. I had hyperfocus sessions on drawing or reading that could last a whole 7 hours straight, where i forget to eat, drink, or do anything else while listening to one song on loop.
God, I really miss out on this game's popularity since I'm not a TikTok nor a VTuber person, surprisingly. I only recognized one of the dances from the "Internet Overdose" song (probably a fanmade edit). That's my only knowledge of it. I didn't even know it was a game and collab with my favorite rhythm game until the Steam recommendation 3 days ago. The tags got me to buy it, and so far, it's pretty great.
Honestly, I bought the game on a whim mostly because I'm a fan of the game's character designer, and I recognised their style from a mile away. I am interested to see how the anime will adapt the source material. With so many endings, my guess is that it will take an anthology approach.
I played this game long ago when was really into the story of it, but I never knew it was THIS popular. I didn't even know the internet yamero song was from the game.
i may have raged a bit by hearing she is bipolar over and over again, im sorry ik im cringe we just dont usually get that much bpd represetation that doesnt show us as the literal devil ( i have bpd lol) ik its random af and im sorry but still i love your video so far really great analisis and the editing amazing
Guess who’s out of the loop again. You’ve got my back though ahah. I swear what you said about wanting to create a trendy dance is what so many companies are after when advertising their game or anime and it can be kinda cringe when they don’t succeed. The neurodivergent bit is just crazy to me but people do anything for clout so… also the music video’s style is so asdicting like there are a billion things happening in an instant, no way it wasn’t gonna go viral, just like this video, right? Because it deserves it. Too good ✌️
just as someone with dissociative identity disorder, she defo doesn't have it- she has a very consistent self-identity even if it changes a lot, and she doesn't suffer from memory issues like those with did do. just thought id say so, i suggest being a little more careful with throwing around diagnoses like that, even if it is in a fictional context ^^ and be very careful delving into fakeclaiming disorders!!!! the issue is very true but it needs to be handled with EXTREME care because those who fake those disorders means they have some other issue and still need help
I have bipolar type 2 disorder, clinically diagnosed when I was 16 by a psychiatrist. I love this game for its aesthetics, though I will say that I will never understand the appeal of romanticizing mental illnesses. I wouldn't wish bipolar disorder on my worst enemy, much less some random girl with daddy issues.
Its wild bc even some of the people who claim being neurodivergent is a trend will still clock neurodivergent behavior and treat those people differently, often times without even realizing it. Like. We can say these people are following a trend all we want but oftentimes its just people trying to figure out whats wrong with them when the current state of healthcare means getting formal testing and diagnosis is nearly impossible. Oof, also, some of these sources are sus. *Romanticizing autism* is such a weird take for a doctor to make, especially since autism isnt a mental illness, its a neurotype. Its just how some brains function. And its severely undiagnosed, because all of the early research done was on little white boys, meaning there are just generations of undiagnosed women just struggling to get by and not understanding that theres a reason everything is so much more difficult for them.
As a person with ADHD, people that say neurogivents are cute is irritating, while I can cope with my ADHD, its like a misfired dynamite, there are moments I can't handle it, I *may* have other mental issues I have, but I need to be diagnosed by an actual professional, so this comment might change once I actually visit one. If you're seeing this comment, I hope you have a good day
I did the same thing-I heard the song, put it on often, bought the game and now I’m debating on wether or not to stream it. Also, getting a lot of Oshi no Ku and related (about the artist) content popping up in my algorithm lately…
i found this game when it came out and i didnt even know it was my sister obsessing over it so i gave her money cause it wasnt that much then the muse dash collab happens (im a bit of a rhythm gamer) and the song hit pretty hard so i tried it and it felt like if omori was about streaming pretty good story wise still havent beaten it and probably wont i still gotta fc master for this song
i was really hooked with the premise of this video and what it seems to be all about but man… at 5:03, you did not just… you did not. im gonna have to tell my therapist about this
It's all catchy, nice and on the biggest social media platforms. The message it's sending though is, to put it shortly, "go touch grass". Basically, get off the internet. The anime short is about an extreme otaku who hallucinates KAngel. He says that he "doesn't want to be in his reality anymore" after seeing her but she replies "No good" pushing him and saying that these dreams can only happen in his reality. It's essentially Nyalra's core message being spoken through KAngel. It was never about saving her, it was always about showing that in this whole internet fame and parasocial relationships thing, nobody wins. While using the same vehicles that propagate those issues. Bloody genius if you ask me. 🙏BLESS🙏
I’m so happy to find this video because I finally got to play it instead of just watching gameplays and it IS AMAZING, I’m obsessed with it and I genuinely can’t explain why
Check description for timestamps and link to the anime short
Btw, "niche": meriam webster says my pronunciation is more common 🤓.
Yooooo a manga adaptation has been announced for Needy Streamer Overload. Maybe in two or three years we may get an anime adaptation to go along with it.
6:30 SHUT THE HELL UP BRO BEGGING U this started as a super great video introducing me about something I didnt know and now suddenly u r talking about the endings without a spoiler warning, please fix that in the future, I loved the Amy/Ame part but the spoilers now made me from happy to mildly upset. Ill get over it, but pls do spoiler section warning and timestamp to skip to or something for future videos. It looks like i game i want to play. And I love so much about hearing about the background and style and other things around and behind it. Not so much visuals or plot points about actual endings, avoid specifics pls pls pls ok thx for making the video still tho.
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's right🤨
"I can fix her" Says the person who is worse off.
Dam the ops came
7:09
can't even fix myself
@@mr.silent1391i can fix u
Well, at least I'm not Anthony Burch. That means I still have things to look forward tom
I can fix her?
Nah. I can make her worse.
The song is bittersweet. For example she wishes someone would just come and kill her but at the same time she wants to live and doesn't want to die
Where the hell is the “sweet” in THAT???
@@eow4317 maybe about the part that half of her actually doesn't want to die.
@@eow4317bittersweet is an oxymoron.
@@eow4317 no sé pibe, viste que la canción es rosa y se escucha animada ??
Ame-chan is extremely BPD coded, she practically bingoes the DSM-V for it, it's what makes the game so good and relatable to people with said disorder, like myself, but I feel like that gets lost with the general audience, specially now that it's booming a lot, and it just becomes an 'I can fix her' simulator
yeah i agree i relate to her a lot and i suffer with bpd myself and this game is one of the main reasons i actually went out of my way to seek treatment back in 2022! im really glad this game is picking up more traction so other people can use it as a possible gateway to get help if they need it!
@@f15hed Damn, had the same experience here but instead of BPD, I got an undiagnosed condition
@@arandom8297 nah frr back when she was out i kin her so much its crazy
"BPD coded"? That's just being written as having BPD.
@@seg162 thats exactly what it means, dont try to be a pick me
I’m not even gonna lie to you the whole “neurodivergent people are cute” or “I can fix her” thing does not make sense to me as a neurodivergent person. This game is extremely good and shows the influence of actions aswell as most likely schizophrenia. This game is originally about a girl with probably schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, possibly BPD, to become an influence in the world, however, people turned it into a “I can fix her” sort of game. Don’t get me wrong, nothing wrong with people taking turns and twisting the game to their enjoyment, but the whole “I can fix her” thing is sort of creating false hope since you can’t really fix a person like you can a robot. I love how much deeper this game goes though.
Funny thing is, i feel like the game forces you to experience all the stress with being a popular social media influencer, because if you try to "fix her" the game ends early with her becoming a normie or something 😂
I mean, I interpret it as people making a joke?
Neurodivergent here as well. I thought the "I can fix her" thing was a twist on irony, because you're saying you can fix someone that obviously is too far gone.
Personally I think it's the same attractive concept as when I watched Mirai Nikki (Future Diary, Yuno Gasai).
The idea that I am a broken failing disappointment of a person barely struggling through life, but: 1, somebody like that can find romance, and 2, somebody like that would settle for me, since I'm highly aware anybody functional would be out of my league.
...back to studying and suffering now, enough of these dumb daydreams of working through life's struggles not being alone.
@@jaceybella1267 "I interpret it as people making a joke?" If it is, nerds will run the joke until they actually believe it.
@@jaceybella1267 that's because it is a joke, the joke is that you can never ever fix someone who is extremely delusional
Hello! Borderline person here! This was one of the insane reasons I adore this game, Ame acts like CONCERNINGLY like myself. I am getting the help I need to address my problems, DBT therapy and I am thankful for an amazing support system. But even with that this is how I act or at the very least feel, ACTUAL representation of the "crazy girl" troupe. Like it is so romanticized, but actually seeing it here- attempting to cover with cute designs all while being unable to due to how toxic abusive or ugly especially to the player it is a realistic view to it. The trend of trying to make mental health cute is bullshit, this game sort of uses that and doesn't hold back from facing the realities- making it less and less desirable as it goes on. Anyways- I remember making my boyfriend play this w me and he laughed so much considering like most of her dialogue are things I've said no joke WORD FOR WORD before. Ame I think is one of the best representations of BPD, at least for me- including the dissociative, extreme self-image issues, and desperate need for attention. Sorry for my ramble! I really adore her, and not shying away from showing how disgusting these disorders can be, all while showing their own viewpoint how difficult and self-destructive it is.
Dang WORD for WORD. You sure you didn't help with the script?
Ngl ive also seen some of her dialogue and thought “ive said this word for word” and i also have bpd lmao, love this game
I don't have anything like bpd myself, but this game gave me a lot more understanding and empathy for those who do have it. I hope you're doing well and managing it alright :)
Nah she was real af and that scared the living crap out of me
iM bEiNg gAnG sTAlKeD bY thE cIa TheY pUt CaMerAs In mY bRaIn
im borderline too and ame, especially during her "breakdown stream"s show how i feel PERFECTLY when i'm struggling. she is so much like me, especially the way she types. i'm also hoping to start DBT soon :) good luck on your journey of self improvement!!!
Holy shit, i didnt know this game was so popular, at most i only knew some vtubers were playing it but not at the level to get an anime, now im excited. If the anime is not 99% rng and drugs i would be dissapointed xD
The songs got the normies like me on it lol. I think a full anime like higurashi could be interesting!!
@booba tea stop lying. You have an Onimai clip. You're no normie. Both songs are also in Muse Dash. That's the first time I heard Internet Overdose. Internet Yamero wasn't out yet. About a year ago? Maybe?
@@Jordan-Ramses haha just using the words that ame would refer to us all as (nerds too)
@@BoobaMilkTea As the story itself is "short" it would be interesting to see how they make an end for each chapter. but generally making adaptations to VN's anime never do justice to the original work, seeing how they made fate/sn and danganronpa is :(
@BoobaMilkTea I love Onimai BTW. It's hilarious how actually wholesome it is.
I hope if they do make an anime based on Needy Girl Overdose, that it's just as freaky as the short. This kind of story would really do well as a dark psychological thriller.
Yeah it would instantly be my favourite show ever no questions asked
Shows real life situations too😞😞
It needs to be english ngl or else it's shit. Im not learning Chinese
They most likely won't for obvious reasons
@@etam8099 what reasons..?!🥲
In a broken society, "fitting in" is no more healthy than how the outcasts conduct themselves. I think it's part of the healing process for some people to be attracted to dark themes-- like this game.
I'm curious, why and how is this "healing process" you spoke of happened? I don't get it.
🚶🏃🧎🤫
@@fwa8590 It's an alternative to the obsession of being a "good person"; always having to appear perfect, never burdening others, always saying "yes" when you wanna say "no", always sacrificing our own desires for sake of the majority and their perception they strongarm as the (*only*) moral one, etc.
Force people to be "good" long enough, and you get a lot of burnt-out people that are terrified to be even remotely authentic for fear of total rejection. Conveniently however, modern society has offered a loophole in the form of mental illness, where people have a respected and logical excuse to back up their "abnormal" behavior, when really, these people were predisposed to these kinds of behaviors already, but time spent pretending they weren't has created an effect like a rubberband; the more tension they've accumulated, the more violently they spring back. It's more pronounced in the modern era because it isn't just a single person doing it within our respective small communities, but instead a whole global generation feeling suffocated under the weight of glorified homogeneity.
Is that something you think or heard someone say, or a fact established by people with experience and knowledge in psychology? Beyond that, is it a disputed "fact" or accepted by the majority?
I get that man, it reminds me of myself a long time ago now back at the end of Jr Highschool. Sometimes the best solution is to just be left to brood with the sadness assuming you aren't at a suicidal/destructive state yet and get over it yourself. It's always better if you have a family you trust though to help you through it but that's not uncommon to not be in that situation nowadays...
I think what makes NSO so "real" is because although Ame-chan is an exaggeration, the reality is that there are entire ecosystems of internet users that are like her - for people who are in the internet long enough, we've always seen someone like Ame-chan
I wouldn’t even say she’s an exaggeration
Romanticization of mental issues is harmful. I personally struggled with them and the most haunting feeling was the rampant doubt if I really am not healthy. "What if I'm just pretending and I am lazy?" or "This is just my mind trying to get friends by fitting in." were the types of thoughts that would plague me every time I had a day that could be called good, which meant I could get out of bed and do anything other than stare at the ceiling. It still wrecks me to this day, even after years of therapy, that everything may be fake, almost like a weird case of imposter syndrome.
That sort of behaviour can get really extreme with some mental illnesses. Sadly, between the sheer amount of people that actually fake it, bad self-diagnosis and the kind of people that tell you to just "smile more", I think this defence mechanism has become even more problematic than it used to be.
I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS THIS POPULAR, I've played the game pretty much around the time it came out!
I knew it was popular but yeah not this much, like- Yeah the music is cool and the dynamic is attractive, but the anime was kinda surprising, not like fully surprising because NSO did a collab with Muse Dash, which also did a collab with Arknights, it was possible to happen but still unexpected
literally?? i got the game a couple months ago and didnt even know it was this popular aksjdshajkl
Last year it was not that popular all vtubers were playing it but that yamero song blew it up
at 8:10 when addressing fake mental illness on places like tiktok, the person stimming isnt fake at all! stimming doesnt always have to be linked to autism, its just a form of getting out energy and anyone can do it. Simple things such as tapping your foot can be stimming :)
yes i was about to comment about this. felt kinda in poor taste to place a real person in the video while talking about people “faking”. especially with a video of someone just stimming, as that’s not really something that even can be fake, as it’s a soothing thing, and not like tics
Yeah I was gonna say, people need to be more careful. Especially if its someone speaking who isn't disabled about these topics 😅
8:35 , about the neurodivergent part, im not sure if you have mistaken or anything but BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder and not BiPolar Disorder, Bipolar is just called Bipolar and Ame's situation is much more of BPD. That part actually says Borderline Personality Disorder, ofcourse since the game never straightup announced her mental illness. It's just that I wish this would be clear,, I thought it may be rude to those who actually have such illness
For the 12:06 Jesus KAngel thing, its actually a canon part of ending if you go onto the Conspiracy Theory stream route. I wont spoil much about this but she technically believes she's a new god and a new way to dominate world is to reduce Earth's population by 90%
ah thanks for clarifying!
By the way, the reason why a lot of people got Needy Streamer Overload in May was because May 5th was Ame-Chan's birthday, leading to from what i remember a 35% (ish) discount on the game.
Also, the manga (I think) is really just free advertising for NSO, and not really focused on Ame-Chan/Kangel at all nor have the same sort of lore, just pretty looks.
yeah that's me lol, got it for dirt cheap (it's already fairly priced)
I'm surprised its popularity skyrockets again. I remember first time finding out about it from ManlyBadassHero's gameplay & at that time there wasn't a lot of ppl talking about the game on social media. Then a lot of RUclipsrs & Vtubers started playing the game too, after that its hype went down for a bit but apparently it's picking up again damn.
Lol same, I love manly
AYYY SAME!! I love his videos hah and i loved this game too
Manly has collecting the Mentally unstable anime Girl like Pokemon since beginning of time.still waiting for his full playthrough for Dice Psycho though(Although,he already stated that full playthrough of the game Will bore people and Will get a strike because it is really dark and full of NSFW stuff)
Manly is the best Let’s Play to watch for this kind of game
While I am against the "I can fix her" sentiment and the fetishisation of mental health and neurodiversity, something is so comforting about seeing a character that I feel I can relate to, especially since the game is so personalized.
The best thing about this game is that it absolutely does not glorify the main Charracters mental illness it's presented as something that's good for her or that everything will be fine, you literally cannot fix or save her
why are you against I can fix her
@@ttowell could it be because you can't fix her?
@@mpo48wasnt there's gameover when she leaves the mc after therapy ?
@@luctran8245 and that's not you fixing her
honestly this game has been one of the few cases where i've gotten a sort of "gatekeep" like attitude with a video game, as it was something i followed for a while before it really took off. as a (genuinely and professionally diagnosed) borderline girl who kinda lived her teenage years obsessing over social media and forming a following of strangers i was never mentally stable enough to handle, i related a lot to the game and found it to be really solid representation.
it doesn't sugarcoat or romanticize shit, but it tells a story of both recovery and absolute self destruction depending on what path you take. i'm partially glad it's gotten popular, and i'm partially horrified at how its message will misconstrued
fr, i saw some mf saying that ame is "overexaggerated" despite the fact shes a very relatable character for a lot of people out there and very real representation....ppls media literacy BAFFLES me these days
@@hiiragii This really sucks because i'm just here like "bitch **I** know real people who are like this" And I should not have related to P-Chan's situation as much as I did
Good point
i was in this same situation too, i couldn’t help but feel some sort of overprotective-ness towards the games and seeing it get as popular as it is now, it’s a bit scary since some people will think it’s just being “unrealistic”. also i think the game and MVs pay a great homage to 2000’s visual novel culture that a lot of people won’t be able to appreciate (especially those outside of japan)
same lol
As a bipolar person the fact that there's some people out there who thinks it's hot makes me die inside. Not to mention the people who fake it as well. Literally all mental illness is dealing with a consistent issue in your life that gets better and worse. The closest thing I can compare it to is having a sprain or other injury and having to work around it. Imagine if someone straight up told you they wished they had a wrist sprain like you cause that'd make them "special". It sounds stupid because it literally is. Wtf is life man? 😓
Edit: Also remember other than having mental illness suck we live normal lives like anyone else! We have happy times and sad times with jobs, hobbies, and relationships be it friends or partners. Also please know this only applies to mental illness so keep that in mind!
whats wrong with thinking its hot
@@ttowell My dude are you trolling? It's basically the equivalent of someone telling you your suffering is hot. For example, if you had someone close die and someone found you hot because of your grief. It basically dehumanizes us 👍Also almost half of the total population in the US has something like depression in their lifetime and that's not including people that don't self-report. This kind of thing presents itself in a less extreme way than people would think a lot of the time and is way more common too. We're just human dude, it's not that interesting, and we're basically everywhere. Dealing with shit is just part of being human. Like I also have bad anxiety and can describe it as "Thinking about things that make me nervous." Now it doesn't sound that interesting now does it? That's because it's really not. Even my boyfriend with anti-social personality disorder so "spooky" and "interesting" is just a shitposter weeb that can be blunt without thinking and makes up for it afterwards. Like I said not that interesting. Also anyone can develop a mental illness, including you, under the right stressful conditions so it's just part of being human. The amount of people who have their first mental illness late in life from grief just shows that it's normal and programmed into all of us.
@@ttowell that implies it's taking the disorder with physical appearance to make it horny imo... how is that good? That just sounds like incel behavior
@Camille Valencia I can see how this suffering is hot angle gets obfuscated on the internet. We live in a society where people are praised for their disorders and abnormalities in different ways from something as simple as a participation award for mentally disabled people to getting documentaries about being a crippled athlete. Should something like that not get praise just cause it isn't a mental disorder and a physical one? Where is the line drawn with this crap? Only line I can think that should is when people get horny over it 🤔
@@AlphaladZXA Yeah basically if you look around anywhere or talk to people with mental illness it sucks for them. It's just another hurdle in life to deal with out of many because it's just 'basic human experience but bad enough to effect your life now'. That's the only difference because every disorder is felt to some extent like being messy or being anxious over a test but when it starts to interfere in your life that's when it starts to be a mental illness. Heck even it can even apply to some forms of schizophrenia since at least 80% of all humans hallucinate when awake for 48 hours which actually makes extreme sleep deprivation hallucinations normal in humans (Every time someone tries to stay awake for as many days as possible they hallucinate so it does seem to be programmed into humanity in general). Heck wanna understand what hypomania's like? Take 2 red bulls at once (Don't recommend but it causes a very similar effect in people). I also described how my bipolarism gets worse with periods and when I mentioned that it's like a period every girl in the class instantly understood what it was like mostly and could sympathize as a fellow human since it finally clicked for them. That's what people kinda don't realize sadly and funnily enough I notice people who have fetishized mental illness or wanted it have discriminated against it at the same time since we're no longer viewed as human and just shows that a lot of people just don't understand how it works (despite these conditions being _very_ human as shown above). I do like seeing people like me improve and accomplish stuff in the same way I would for anyone else though. It's why I like to look at all manga artists progress over time so self-improvement is pretty cool 😊
What I've learned is how incredibly out of the loop I am while being ahead of the curve? I'm technically a long term Aiobahn fan, Literally played Needy Girl Overdose day one and have read Oshi no ko since late 2020 while not being the wiser to how much these things have popped off aside from Oshi no ko. I'll take this opportunity to simp for Aiobahn and recommend checking out his less popular music, Re:seachlight goes unfathomably hard to my taste. (Also I can't lie I never did finish the game and just watched an all endings playthrough)
Everyone please listen to Wish by Aiobahn (feat Somunia) it's PEAK
Me before playing: “I can fix her”
Me after playing: “I’m the problem”
A fool proclaims "I can fix her."
A wise man understands he shouldn't.
A sage knows he can't.
this just not true
@@ttowell I wished it wasn't. You will have to make the same mistakes too before realizing the errors in your path. It is natural.
@@Isaax no it really just isnt true you js tryn sound smart
@@ttowell how so?
@@ttowell Or so you proclaim, yet you present argument whatsoever
It’s about a girl who thinks being a streamer will fix her life, unaware of exactly how bad the worst case scenarios can get.
I hate how I can relate to her
I cannot believe ManlyBadassHero introduced me into this before any sort of trend did.
Even if it took off like 6 hours off my life in the process.
same bro, manlybadass is on every type of indie horror as soon as it releases, what a Saint
@@Twenteen2 Yeah he was probably the first to pick up Iron lung before it became mainstream too, truly a saint
Anyone with a long term bipolar friend would kinda be disgusted by the fetishization of this. Shits hard just being a friend, these idiots don’t know what the hell they’re on about. Love the game, hate the players. People unironically seeking the lifestyle criticized by Me Me Me
@durandus676 Personally as one bipolar person massive respect to you being there for your friend and standing up for people like us! Thank you so much!
I have been called neurodivergent several times for certain behaviors, the truth is that I was trying not beat the hell out of them and control my anger problems :)
Based.
@@harrysliyoko8809 no
@@ttowellno u
@@SuussyBakka no u
sounds hella edgy
This game and DDLC took the internet by surprise, nice video btw good to know that you're a fan.
the soundtrack is so good. I love how it speeds up when ame is going crazy too.
Her: "Self-Love, he don't love himself, tryna love me." How can you love someone if you can't even love yourself?
Him: "I can fix her" How can you fix someone if you need fixing too?
Fuck, I might send people straight to therapy with that one.
evangelion tv series ending type beat
lol
how is needing fixing stopping you from fixing someone else
@@ttowellwell how do you know if you're fixing someone right if you never truly knew what it's like to feel fixed
@@Googleusergoogleuser-b4p you fix someone the same way you would fix yourself
This game exposes how easy it is to go viral by today's internet standards.
The writers are geniuses.
Mental illnesses do not equal neurodivergence. The whole point of the term is that conditions like autism or dyslexia aren’t actually dysfunctional, they’re just different processing systems with upsides and downsides. The reason why they’re disorders is because they impact the patients life, not because they’re inherently dysfunctional.
Something like bipolar or DID is absolutely dysfunctional. A healthy person in a healthy home should not be developing these conditions. Neurodivergence is something you’re born with and will have regardless of your home or outside environment.
It really bothers me when people throw around these terms without understanding why proper use is important.
Well Bipolar and DID can be something you are born with regardless of your upbringing.
@@mat7258 we don’t know that. Something can have genetic / hereditary *factors* and still not be something you’re born with. You can have the gene but the gene has to be triggered by something. Like trauma for example.
There is no evidence suggesting that people are born with DID. I don’t think there is for bipolar either. We don’t know all the factors that go into developing these illnesses and we probably won’t for a long time. All we can do for now is shuffle around their classifications until they seem accurate enough.
but mental illnesses isnt that neurodivergent bc its not neurotypical? what would it be called?
@@toastitostostitos6357 an illness, disorder, disease, syndrome, ect.
You even said “mental illness”. That’s exactly the term that works for those conditions. Yes they’re atypical but neurodivergent has gained a more specific meaning than it’s etymology at this point.
@@ratking927 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8477227/
medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/bipolar-disorder/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
Tbh all the game ending are what im afraid to have it happen to me if i follow my dream of being a streamer
Streaming is such a mentally and physically taxing thing, I guess you'll need all the support you can have from close friends and family to keep yourself from ending in a wreck?
Can I fix her?
No.
But can a therapist fix her?
Also no.
A therapist helps her fix herself.
A clarification on the whole "I can fix her" thing: the game seems to encourage simulation of the dark paths Ame can take by streaming. One "standard game over" called "Normie Life" is where you make her "Mental Darkness" drop to zero and she decides "naw, I don't need to become famous to feel loved". That technically counts as you actively influencing her to become more well-adjusted mentally. Now, the best argument against the "I can fix her" mindset is in that "removing all responsibility from someone for healing from their issues... will not help them heal and will bring more harm or even abuse on you". That said, the only way I think the game discourages the "I can fix her" mindset *is a VERY VERY HUGE SPOILER BELOW:*
*MASSIVE SPOILER HERE:* P-Chan, as in the player character, is an imaginary friend of Ame's. This is only revealed if you 100% the game, and it _can_ come off as saying "you can't force someone to discard maladaptive coping mechanisms; you can only hope they'll do it themself".
Who could've guessed that a little indie game that was covered by some manly badass hero would rapidly grow into, whatever I'm watching rn.
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Wait are personality disorders, disassociative disorder or bipolar disorders neurodivergent traits? Aren't those conditions developmental/mental illnesses? I thought neurodivergence was an inherent trait instilled into people from birth?
neruodivergent is a blanket term for basically thinking differently. those conditions would fall under neurodiversity. You could develop schizophrenia later in life and then be classified as neurodivergent. Pretty much much anyone can say they are "neurodivergent" in a way, but being schizo/BPD/etc is like the actual disorder which much fewer ppl are (outside of the internet lol). tbh the term neurodivergent lacks meaning - if you have a certain disorder, best to just use that term instead - rather than the blanket term.
I think you somewhat misunderstand mental illness but you’re almost there. There is no such thing as a mental illness that is purely “nurture”. Almost every mental illness has both a nature and nurture element, even PTSD. Some people are more predisposed to certain disorders, others are not.
I suppose if you are predisposed to an anxiety disorder and a stressful environment causes you to develop one you could say it was instilled or inflicted upon you, but the triggering event is more like the straw that breaks the camels back.
@@floofzykitty5072 I feel like that's different though. That is latency vs full development. Because if we start getting into semantics people can develop just about anything under the right circumstances, so I feel like while sure we can say that there is a nature aspect to it it's not set in stone that it will fully manifest until the right conditions are met to develop that illness. Cuz really people can become anything, so I don't see them as really breaking the camel's back in most instances
Yo. I actually encounter this discussion on an autistic forum. They said the first person who coined the first use of neurodivergent was an autistic trans person and they said that everyone who does not have the normal default brain status is neurodivergent. That includes mental illnesses and disorders however some of the autistic community reject that idea but understand why that is the case. They want to have a new term given to those who are actually born with it like adhd and autism. While simultaneously keeping the neurodivergent open to everyone thats not neurotypical. Except the “new term” is yet to be decided. For now
personality disorders (BPD/borderline personality disorder, OCD, schizophrenia to name a few) as considered neurodivergent because they affect the way someone thinks, which is why they're called personality disorders. i believe dissociative disorder are also considered neurodivergent i believe. bi polar disorder is typically considered neurodivergent, but it's a mood disorder and i'm not sure if other mood disorders like depression for example are as well. neurodivergence isn't necessarily a trait but a term used to describe someone who thinks different/ their symptoms or mannerisms because of the autism spectrum or a disorder (like BPD for example). people on the autism spectrum are born with it, and people with a disorder usually develop it as a child, often times the same with mood and dissociative disorders. most neurodivergent people are born that way or develop that way as a child while their brain is developing, but some develop it later in life because of trauma, though it's rare it still could happen! though i am passionate about this i'm not an expert so if you'd like to know more i suggest looking it up online on trusted medical websites or other neurodivergent people's opinions, since it's mostly an opinion thing. i just gave my account of what i know as a person who's neurodivergent with BPD + other things :)
Needy Girl(specifically the Menhera aspect) seems to be the more accepted, more mild version of the Yandere.
Yandere enthusiasts have been fans of this genre for a loooong looong time already.
So glad it's hitting mainstream more instead of the tsundere.
My thoughts exactly!
IDK maybe it’s a psychological thing but I think people find “hot people” with red flags hotter than “hot people” with green flag. As a girl I saw most of romance comic ML are always edgy like dark lord, demon king, prince charming with dark dirty secret etc. while the green flag guys with stable mental health got no b1t#h. Also when popular shows have “hot” antihero with tragic past you instantly know the fandom gonna be big af
2:17 they have a mafuyu pfp im not surprised
i can't see it
@@_str4wb_The achromatic person, the pfp is that one offical art of her
@@_str4wb_look at 2:11
(Spoiler alert for the game itself)
At its face, the game may well seem like an "I can fix her" simulator, but if you get deeper into various metaphors and details of the game's narrative across different endings, it is arguably possible that P-chan is likely a fictional character in Ame-chan's own head. I know this is still subjective and everyone may have their own interpretation, but if you view it in this way, the whole game immediately is all about Ame's own struggle and (maybe) redemption of her neurodivergent self. And I think that is the part that makes me feel this is a great game.
im pretty sure p-chan is just her alternative mindset
It’s insane how popular this series has become present day, I remember seeing it back then and it was great to see how interesting the game was, but it’s still surprising how popular it got
Didn't expect to see a video of need streamer overdose today, kudos to you man this made remember how entertaining watching streamers play this game was
Wait... NEEDY STREAMER OVERLOAD WILL HAVE AN ANIME? WHAT?
nah - i'm just hoping for one - but they made an anime short, so there's a possibility, i mentioned it at the end of the video, check the timestamps - but I just put a link to it in the description now
No we need streamer overdose 😂 anime
I swear, the name "Windose" sounds like some medicine name that Microsoft would make lmao, besides some word probably referring to some computer being overdosed with every Windows version, from 1.0 up until 11.
I never really went "I Can Fix Her" I have seen enough mentally ill fictional women that there is no "fixing them" or really even "making them worse" its more of a "we will be horrible together kinda thing" I also have always had a thing for Yandere's which probably means my type is literally mentally ill women.
i once saw a steam review call this game "borderline personality disorder girlfriend simulator"
I remember watching manlybadasshero's video about it and I found the game appealing as well as triggering.
It made me reflect on interaction we have with well known people on the internet and unhealthy parasocial relationships.
Suffering from mental health condition (whether I'm classified as neurodivergent or not), this whole "I can fix her" or "ND woman are so hot" whole thing was pretty unconfortable, but I knew it was going to happen with the rise of "jirai-kei" since 2020.
Also I would like to add some informations about this subculture and their "fashion".
This style of clothing wasn't originally tied to it and was just called "girly-kei" (wich is essentially a type of kawaii fashion) but this J-fashion boomed in the Jirai/menhera spaces but it isn't the only one fashion associated with them.
What I'm trying to say is that Jirai/menheras are less a fashion but more a subculture, unhealthy or not. It really is a big summary of this whole complex topic that I was able to grasp as a J-fashion enjoyer (mainly into lolita fashion).
I'd recommend checking DIFFERENT blogs that explains in depth the whole thing, be aware that it has heavy subjects and is not meant for everyone.
I'm still very happy and scared that this game blew up, def gonna check out the songs.
Manly is how I found it too!
Your video made me immediately buy needy girl overdose so i can stream it this week. Thank you for letting me know it existed, gonna subscribe as the video was well researched and well made
Fr, after goin through a relationship with a BPD girl myself, being needy and/or unstable isn’t just a turnoff, it’s my moral obligation not to get involved romantically. Ppl need to learn that being unstable is a reason to avoid relationships and get help first, cause no matter how much you feel companionship would feel like paradise in comparison, the chance of you just spreading your suffering to them is astronomically high.
All those attracted to broken ppl, are textbook examples of looking for abuse and subconscious enabling, if you’re attracted to that you’re also not fit for relationships and need therapy.
for those who dont know about the "jesus" looking kangel, its one of the endings you can get in the game where basically kangel starts seeing stuff after doing magic paper and decides to start a religion
I did not expect Star Twinkle Precure to be that much of an influence on Needy Streamer Overload. I mean, I knew the endings were very vaporwave, but I was under the assumption that the aesthetic had been around since long before 2019.
12:01 this is referencing an ending in NSO , where kangel ends up creating a cult
the man probably is obsessed with kangel so much where he thinks shes a god
I never seen that ending... Must be hard to get
@@BoobaMilkTea i wouldnt say its hard im pretty sure you just need to do all the conspiracy theory streams
damn ame is clever naming because based on pitch accent it can mean either rain or candy
It's very interesting what you pointed out about how the game is at the peak of its popularity right now. I've been aware of the game for a long while as an avid viewer of Hololive, but only just recently did I finally play it. Since then, I've absolutely fallen in love with it. I don't even remember what it was that pushed me to look into it now.
Kudos to this man for putting K Angel, Ai Hoshino, and D4DJ's Rinku all in the first 35 seconds. They are three gigachads of anime music 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
I'm autistic and have terrible anxiety but the way Ame-chan acts really does resonate with me, especially me when I'm in love, it kinda scares me lmao.
im so glad that this game has gotten as successful and popular as it is now , it definitely deserves it !
I like this game purely because it is genuinely creepy, in a very creative way. They really captured the crazy girl vibe on her, i just actively feel bad for the characters, and the safety of the MC lol…even the music left me feeling uncomfortable. Both music “internet overdose” and “internet yamero” is fire tho.
2:07 Reviewer is on to something. If you can't get the hoes, get the bros.
You went crazy on this one fam!
Thanks man!
Bro can't stop dropping W vids
This is my guilty pleasure I do understand everything wrong with romantizing mental ilness but it does relieve me from some pain of existing and satisfies my urges without hurting other people. Great vid
2:55 You make an amazing point here. A great though kinda niche example of this was a couple years ago when "schizo posts/edits" were just getting some popularity. Those videos featured flashy aesthetics and had remixed songs that fit in with the theme aswell as the "unhinged/insane" subject matter which can be comedic or just interesting in general. And I believe this similarity is a key selling point for this game.
Me seeing and discovering there will be an anime short and there is already a manga : suprised morales face intensifies
Lmao surprised Morales face is a thing now
11:57 that " Jesus K-Angel "
Is actually in one of the endings you can get
This one is when K-Angel learn too many theorys
I found out about the game a year ago. i had no idea that it got popular 🗣️🔥⁉️ fire ahh game
I find it sad that it's become trendy to show neurodivergent behaviour. Mostly sad on two part in my opinion.
First off the two is that they only show a certain selective part of neurodivergent behavour that they find "interestin".
Like I myself have ADHD and have my troubles, but that in the trends it's mostly seen as something not that bad and just you cannot focus or are hyperactive, but that's far from the truth in what struggles there are in day to day life.
Secondly it makes people self-"diagnose". I'll keep to what I know of stuff. And that is ADHD.
You see people in the comments of those videos saying that now they finally know why they can't focut at school or something like that.
But it's not so black and white with those things. In my opinion it's harmfull to say you have something via self-diagnosis.
My opinion on this stuff is very negative and I wish it would just not exist, but everything I see on social media on ADHD makes it feel like I lost the lottery on it and got all things worse. The only place that is not so intense is Reddit, but that's got it's own problems.
This comment is one part of my troubles, sitting at midnight ranting about stuff instead of sleeping.
hope you get some sleep~
Yeah I feel you, I don't like people boiling ADHD down to "bad at school" and "easily distractied". I did very good at school but only because I was obsessed about my grades and hyperfocused on studying for hours, leaving me with no time to do other things sometimes. I had hyperfocus sessions on drawing or reading that could last a whole 7 hours straight, where i forget to eat, drink, or do anything else while listening to one song on loop.
I watched this game like 2/3 months ago and now im hearing it blowing up
Ikr it been blowing up. Wanted to make this vid awhile ago but I'm too slow 😔
Small fun fact
The twitter accounts ingame are an actual account
*twister
9:50 kawaiikute gomen pronunced as kowaikute gomen after Ame/Amy complaint xD. Anyhow great video !
Hey sounds good to me XD
Thanks for watching 😆
what.
(btw 12:07 the jesus looking outfit was from one of the ending of the game where Kangel basically start a cult,brainwashing her viewer I think)
"I can fix her"
But why would you want to? She's perfect.
God, I really miss out on this game's popularity since I'm not a TikTok nor a VTuber person, surprisingly. I only recognized one of the dances from the "Internet Overdose" song (probably a fanmade edit). That's my only knowledge of it. I didn't even know it was a game and collab with my favorite rhythm game until the Steam recommendation 3 days ago. The tags got me to buy it, and so far, it's pretty great.
Honestly, I bought the game on a whim mostly because I'm a fan of the game's character designer, and I recognised their style from a mile away. I am interested to see how the anime will adapt the source material. With so many endings, my guess is that it will take an anthology approach.
I played this game long ago when was really into the story of it, but I never knew it was THIS popular. I didn't even know the internet yamero song was from the game.
“After being a fan of vaporwave and seeing it rise to the mainstream” does this mean we can headcanon that Ame listens to death’s dynamic shroud
Holy fxck it’s gonna have an anime that’s literally the best thing in the entire world I would literally sell my soul for it wtf omfg wtf omfg
i may have raged a bit by hearing she is bipolar over and over again, im sorry ik im cringe we just dont usually get that much bpd represetation that doesnt show us as the literal devil ( i have bpd lol) ik its random af and im sorry but still i love your video so far really great analisis and the editing amazing
11:58 The book that falls by itself reads 夏十夜 漱石, referencing the 1908-released novel “Ten Nights of Dreams” by Japanese novelist Natsume Soseki（夏目漱石）
ive read the fanfics and they're soo good hope this game become more popular
Guess who’s out of the loop again. You’ve got my back though ahah. I swear what you said about wanting to create a trendy dance is what so many companies are after when advertising their game or anime and it can be kinda cringe when they don’t succeed. The neurodivergent bit is just crazy to me but people do anything for clout so… also the music video’s style is so asdicting like there are a billion things happening in an instant, no way it wasn’t gonna go viral, just like this video, right? Because it deserves it. Too good ✌️
just as someone with dissociative identity disorder, she defo doesn't have it- she has a very consistent self-identity even if it changes a lot, and she doesn't suffer from memory issues like those with did do. just thought id say so, i suggest being a little more careful with throwing around diagnoses like that, even if it is in a fictional context ^^
and be very careful delving into fakeclaiming disorders!!!! the issue is very true but it needs to be handled with EXTREME care because those who fake those disorders means they have some other issue and still need help
I have bipolar type 2 disorder, clinically diagnosed when I was 16 by a psychiatrist. I love this game for its aesthetics, though I will say that I will never understand the appeal of romanticizing mental illnesses. I wouldn't wish bipolar disorder on my worst enemy, much less some random girl with daddy issues.
Its wild bc even some of the people who claim being neurodivergent is a trend will still clock neurodivergent behavior and treat those people differently, often times without even realizing it. Like. We can say these people are following a trend all we want but oftentimes its just people trying to figure out whats wrong with them when the current state of healthcare means getting formal testing and diagnosis is nearly impossible.
Oof, also, some of these sources are sus. *Romanticizing autism* is such a weird take for a doctor to make, especially since autism isnt a mental illness, its a neurotype. Its just how some brains function. And its severely undiagnosed, because all of the early research done was on little white boys, meaning there are just generations of undiagnosed women just struggling to get by and not understanding that theres a reason everything is so much more difficult for them.
As a person with ADHD, people that say neurogivents are cute is irritating, while I can cope with my ADHD, its like a misfired dynamite, there are moments I can't handle it, I *may* have other mental issues I have, but I need to be diagnosed by an actual professional, so this comment might change once I actually visit one.
If you're seeing this comment, I hope you have a good day
I did the same thing-I heard the song, put it on often, bought the game and now I’m debating on wether or not to stream it.
Also, getting a lot of Oshi no Ku and related (about the artist) content popping up in my algorithm lately…
i found this game when it came out and i didnt even know it was my sister obsessing over it so i gave her money cause it wasnt that much then the muse dash collab happens (im a bit of a rhythm gamer) and the song hit pretty hard so i tried it and it felt like if omori was about streaming pretty good story wise still havent beaten it and probably wont i still gotta fc master for this song
i was really hooked with the premise of this video and what it seems to be all about but man… at 5:03, you did not just… you did not. im gonna have to tell my therapist about this
sorry~ i hope insurance can cover youtube video induced pain!
Very interesting how there's a fashion movement related to this.
The Chainsaw Man’s viral dance will probably happen toward the end of part 1 with Kobeni
The book at 11:50 is Ten Nights of Dreams by Natsume Soseki
THERES A MANGA AND ANIME HUH?!?!??!? HUH I DIDN'T KNOW THIS GAME WOULD BE SO POPULAR AFTER I SAW MANLYBADASSHERO UPLOAD A PLAYTHROUGH OF IT??
0:02 amongus
I got into this game cuz of a meme I found on Pinterest, it’s one of my favorite vns ever (Besides Steins;Gate)
can’t believe its been a year since the songs released
This game is a work of art man, it really shows how horrible mental illness can be
It's all catchy, nice and on the biggest social media platforms. The message it's sending though is, to put it shortly, "go touch grass". Basically, get off the internet. The anime short is about an extreme otaku who hallucinates KAngel. He says that he "doesn't want to be in his reality anymore" after seeing her but she replies "No good" pushing him and saying that these dreams can only happen in his reality. It's essentially Nyalra's core message being spoken through KAngel.
It was never about saving her, it was always about showing that in this whole internet fame and parasocial relationships thing, nobody wins. While using the same vehicles that propagate those issues. Bloody genius if you ask me.
🙏BLESS🙏
I finally know where the song came from lol
im so glad this game is getting more popular!! I remember nobody knowing abt it when i first played over a year ago but now im so happyyy
I’m so happy to find this video because I finally got to play it instead of just watching gameplays and it IS AMAZING, I’m obsessed with it and I genuinely can’t explain why
Maybe it’s because she just like me fr