@@DanteHikato Even if he somehow lost all of his skill, the immense amount of knowledge he gained competing can be passed on bc it lives with him in his head.
ZeRo may have made some mistakes in the past but one thing people seem to overlook is the fact that he has a real passion for helping others, not only in smash but in general life. Thank you for this insight Gonzalo
Ah yes... grooming children. A silly little mistake... but hey, at least he gives advice to a game community that is also known for preying on minors! A true american hero!
@@hookerfooker4281 it was all proven to be false allegations idiot. If you don't want people to start coming at you harder I suggest you do your research.
@@itsmesteve1081 but he always ends up winning so he is not playing with a hot head, most likely it means he downloaded the opponent. If getting tilted makes you the no. 1 , damn tweek would be a god
This is so interesting! I’d love to see you cover the Sparg0 set he took over Leo at Summit. I am interested in how people fight Leo when they have great control of their nerves.
Zero's rain in smash 4 was a marvel. I still remember the set when Nairo finally broke his streak. To see Leo take the mantle at the end and holding it through ultimate is just amazing. Let's see if Spargo has what it takes to be the next dominant force. Reminds me of the melee Gods era! Good times
The Melee gods era was way different and it wouls be too long to explain but there are well documented vids from youtube regarding this. Leo did not take the mantle, he just wore it as smash ultimate is a different game from smash 4.
@@Yokai_Yuri agreed, but he was already becoming the best player around towards the end of sm4sh. I do however think we have a new gods of ultimate in the making. Its more competitive than ever, and the top players are all insane
@@Yokai_Yuri I've seen all documentaries and been watching melee since forever. I didn't say this is like melee. I was being nostalgic and said it reminds me of the good ol' times. Interestingly this is happening in melee too with Zain, ibdw and Jmook winning recently. Melee itself is starting to remind me of the good ol' times of Gods rising.
@@Yokai_Yuri don’t be purposely ignorant, you knew what he meant. Leo was generally looked at as the best player at the end of smash 4’s life, he then continued to be the best player until right about now where it looks like 4 ish people have caught up in terms of skill
**Just to be clear, I'm thinking about smash fundamentals here, and not who is best overall. I don't think I can comment on best overall, but from observing fundamentals I think Leo and ZeRo surpass their peers** ZeRo and Leo are probably the two fundamentally best players in smash history (I take it that Melee players are more technical,) so hearing ZeRo lucidly break down Leo's gameplay is platinum
@@forgive.them. theres multiple people up there. All the gods of melee are up there, zeros up there, leos up there. Nairo would have been up there i think, potentially samsora. I think tweek spargo and maybe acola are on their way too. As far as smash goes.
@@Yokai_Yuri There is a lot of history is Smash lol. It would be Mango & Leo currently. But Zero had 51 straight consecutive tournament history, not even Leo has that
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it’s the mature players with lots of experience that can beat Leo multiple times. Zero, Larry, Nairo, Tween, Esam, Proto, and Glutonny. You need extremely solid and well rounded play. You also need really good mental.
Measuring Risk-Reward Playing disciplined vs crazy Don’t give up stage control easily Things to be wary for in matchups (Fishing for combo starters, conditioning) Avoid playing on Auto mode (brain dead, no adaptation)
Leo was built for smash. Being inside his mind would be so incredible. The amount of concentration and precision needed for some of the stuff he does is kinda crazy. He takes advantage of any slip ups his opponent makes in mere moments.
You are right about it being crucial to get close to Leo. Leo is natively a sword fighter. Remember when he fought the mario main and lost. Grabbing does throw him off.
I want to improve a lot so when I get coaching, it’s more on the small things you touch on like this … And so my strengths can be pointed out, while talking about my weaknesses so I know clearly how to move forward. I got a lot of thing to work on, and I see every improvement reflecting in my mentality and gameplay .
I love your analysis videos and this type of content, this help me to get better by studying people’s habits and play style. Good to see you back with smash content again.
I miss Samsora being number 2. Leo always talked about how much of a threat Sam was to him in tournaments. Leo always said to watch out for him becasue he was coming for that number one spot. He said Sam was his toughest rival at the time.
It is funny comparing Nairo talking about Smash versus ZeRo. It is crazy to think MKLeo is dominating just by not giving an inch, but it is so hard to not give an inch, especially once you get caught of guard and Leo's other strength is capitalizing on the advantage as much as possible when the risk is balanced. I think Peach players are just going to be used to giving up stage control to safely grab projectiles along with other characters that pull them, such as Link.
This idea is what separates top consistent tekken players with other tournament players. It's harder for people to build that idea in smash because you don't really "see" the risk vs reward. Smash players have it built in their minds to always try to outread and out neutral their opponents. This causes them to go for unnecessary reads in favorable positions that cost them the advantage. At times it will garner them the win and what not but to be "consistent" you have to make those decisions when to be disciplined
Can you make a video giving your take on which Smash GOAT is the GOAT of Smash GOATS? Isai (64) Armada (Melee) M2k (Brawl) Zero (Smash 4) Leo (Ultimate)
I LOVE the fact that pros are all of a sudden talking more publicly about analyzing smash gameplay and can't help but feel like ZeRo's recent influence is a big contributor. Coincidence?!?!?
There’s a reason Leo is the goat and the most respected smash ultimate player in the world. You can study him but give him a while and he’ll have you downloaded.
But it's like zero is saying, if you haven't even gotten past the point of making nervous mistakes and losing leads, then the character study doesn't really matter. Like it's easy for Leo to capitalize when everyone else makes more mistakes than him. That was zeros main point. If people could be as consistent in their fundamentals as leo them they could begin to break down his particular game.
@@sebastiansullivan4770d so why why can’t Leo break down their game lol? His fundamentals is why he’s number one and when he tries he’s head and shoulders above everyone else literally no one will ever have a neutral as good as him? Even if that happens he’s smart and can just keep adapting to them faster than they can to him so he’ll just win, Mkleo not a npc he’s a human too you guys act like he’s just a boss in a game he’s far more than that he’s litterally a genius meant to play smash 😅
@@jeremiahtannehill8870 of course he is a genius at the game. But, what does that literally mean? When you break it down, it's a few things. One of them is that he doesn't make those nervous mistakes that everyone else does while under pressure. Just because he is the best doesn't mean you can't analyze and understand why he is the best. It doesn't come down to things that are beyond human comprehension. Like, he makes better decisions, he is more consistent but he is not perfect and you can see his mistakes too sometimes. It's just that he makes less of them and in a game which is won and lost on single interactions it really helps to have nerves of steel and data about how to optimally react in specific scenarios.
Hey zero, great analysis! Wondering if you still follow other smash game scenes, like Melee/PM on your free time as well, or do you just see Ultimate these days?
@@jeremiahtannehill8870 for sure he is, but don't you agree that spargo has that cool demeanour and come back factor that no one else other than Leo seems to possess? He just has the aura of natural talent to me that Leo also seems to have.
I do hope people learn from this and realize that, yes, even Leo can be analyzed and improved upon. Leo is fantastic, no doubt, and very inspirational in the way he plays the game, but he is NOT perfect nor a GOD; he is human, and even at the most minute, nuanced level you can learn to identify player habits.
@Multi Personally for me, I really like fighting games so I like to play games competitively anyway. You may not get anything out of it, which is okay, but I get a lot of fun out of trying to get better at fighting games
@Multi there is more to life than growing your bank account, you also need to grow as a person, acquiring skills in any domain is a means of doing that. So you do get something back from it, that id argue is more valuable than money.
Am I the only one who feels like Leo's Joker is a bit sift since he's been maining Byleth and other characters? I think he took too much time off this character and needs to get back in shape. And I say that despite him winning. Like he could have been more dominant I think.
You don't. You either have what it takes to be at the top, or you don't. People always discount the inherent, genetic and physiological aspect to being the BEST at something. Anyone can be good with practice, only a lucky few can be truly GREAT. No one becomes the #1 with ONLY practice.
@@alexmartin6561 I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. At the least I've seen videos where Leo will still refer to his beating ZeRo in 4 as his most proud smash moments and you can tell that he still holds ZeRo in the highest regard as a player
How to be good at newer smash titles: Avoid fighting, don't approach, hide away and spam defensive options, just generally don't do anything that could be considered entertaining to watch Saved u 20 minutes
Haven’t watched yet, but I believe that MKLeo being as beloved as he is is actually detrimental to the scene as a whole. Not saying we should hate him, but many players, even the top players themselves, put him on a pedestal and see him as their idol or model or whatever. You can never beat someone that’s your idol. You have to be able to cast them aside and say they aren’t as good as they are in order to surpass them. It makes sense because your idol can’t be someone that’s worse than you.
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You washed though
@@DanteHikato chill lmao
@@DanteHikato that is not how it works 🤓☝
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@@DanteHikato Even if he somehow lost all of his skill, the immense amount of knowledge he gained competing can be passed on bc it lives with him in his head.
2:35 Zero is a Smash historian, my man's a PHD in Smash, getting this kind of insight is amazing.
Facts
Petition to bring back ZeRo dancing outro
Yeeeeeeeeeessssss
I second this
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Actually tho
I third this
Thank you ZeRo for doing more analysis. It's honestly one of your strongest skills, and is probably why you've won so much over the years.
I literally just finished watching you beat Leo at E3 2018!
Please make more of these! Its an absolute treat to watch you break down top level play like this.
Man I just saw this after a while and I completely forgot how good you’re looking man, keep up the grind 💪🥴
ZeRo may have made some mistakes in the past but one thing people seem to overlook is the fact that he has a real passion for helping others, not only in smash but in general life. Thank you for this insight Gonzalo
Ah yes... grooming children. A silly little mistake... but hey, at least he gives advice to a game community that is also known for preying on minors! A true american hero!
@@hookerfooker4281 cringe
@@hookerfooker4281 it was all proven to be false allegations idiot. If you don't want people to start coming at you harder I suggest you do your research.
I think Leos biggest strengths are his adaptability and his composure. Man never gets tilted, or at least not for very long if ever.
I disagree. I think he does get tilted. Just like when zero says that he starts to play more risky when he's losing. I would call that getting tilted.
@@itsmesteve1081 but he always ends up winning so he is not playing with a hot head, most likely it means he downloaded the opponent. If getting tilted makes you the no. 1 , damn tweek would be a god
This is so interesting! I’d love to see you cover the Sparg0 set he took over Leo at Summit. I am interested in how people fight Leo when they have great control of their nerves.
Zero's rain in smash 4 was a marvel. I still remember the set when Nairo finally broke his streak. To see Leo take the mantle at the end and holding it through ultimate is just amazing. Let's see if Spargo has what it takes to be the next dominant force.
Reminds me of the melee Gods era! Good times
Ahh nairo…
The Melee gods era was way different and it wouls be too long to explain but there are well documented vids from youtube regarding this. Leo did not take the mantle, he just wore it as smash ultimate is a different game from smash 4.
@@Yokai_Yuri agreed, but he was already becoming the best player around towards the end of sm4sh. I do however think we have a new gods of ultimate in the making. Its more competitive than ever, and the top players are all insane
@@Yokai_Yuri I've seen all documentaries and been watching melee since forever. I didn't say this is like melee. I was being nostalgic and said it reminds me of the good ol' times.
Interestingly this is happening in melee too with Zain, ibdw and Jmook winning recently. Melee itself is starting to remind me of the good ol' times of Gods rising.
@@Yokai_Yuri don’t be purposely ignorant, you knew what he meant. Leo was generally looked at as the best player at the end of smash 4’s life, he then continued to be the best player until right about now where it looks like 4 ish people have caught up in terms of skill
**Just to be clear, I'm thinking about smash fundamentals here, and not who is best overall. I don't think I can comment on best overall, but from observing fundamentals I think Leo and ZeRo surpass their peers**
ZeRo and Leo are probably the two fundamentally best players in smash history (I take it that Melee players are more technical,) so hearing ZeRo lucidly break down Leo's gameplay is platinum
Zero was good for what he did, but smash 4 did not last that long. The best two players in smash history would be Armada and Leo
M2k is up there. The most tournament wins in esports history
@@forgive.them. theres multiple people up there. All the gods of melee are up there, zeros up there, leos up there. Nairo would have been up there i think, potentially samsora. I think tweek spargo and maybe acola are on their way too. As far as smash goes.
Mang0 and armada are the goats in melee. Obviously m2k and hbox as well.
@@Yokai_Yuri There is a lot of history is Smash lol. It would be Mango & Leo currently. But Zero had 51 straight consecutive tournament history, not even Leo has that
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it’s the mature players with lots of experience that can beat Leo multiple times. Zero, Larry, Nairo, Tween, Esam, Proto, and Glutonny. You need extremely solid and well rounded play. You also need really good mental.
How to beat Leo: become Zero.
No in ultímate.
Taking notes for when I play Leo in grand finals
Measuring Risk-Reward
Playing disciplined vs crazy
Don’t give up stage control easily
Things to be wary for in matchups (Fishing for combo starters, conditioning)
Avoid playing on Auto mode (brain dead, no adaptation)
Leo was built for smash. Being inside his mind would be so incredible. The amount of concentration and precision needed for some of the stuff he does is kinda crazy. He takes advantage of any slip ups his opponent makes in mere moments.
You are right about it being crucial to get close to Leo. Leo is natively a sword fighter. Remember when he fought the mario main and lost. Grabbing does throw him off.
ZeRo till this day gives the best commentary on smash, hands down.
Mew2King could be better if he was not so averse to Smash content.
When Leo is so good that zero needs to give out free lessons on how to beat him 🤣
I want to improve a lot so when I get coaching, it’s more on the small things you touch on like this …
And so my strengths can be pointed out, while talking about my weaknesses so I know clearly how to move forward.
I got a lot of thing to work on, and I see every improvement reflecting in my mentality and gameplay .
I love your analysis videos and this type of content, this help me to get better by studying people’s habits and play style. Good to see you back with smash content again.
This kind of content is amazing. I’ll definitely keep watching your videos for this series
I miss Samsora being number 2. Leo always talked about how much of a threat Sam was to him in tournaments. Leo always said to watch out for him becasue he was coming for that number one spot. He said Sam was his toughest rival at the time.
Same. I hope muteace can continue that path
Idk about you, but I prefer watching Muteace's play over Samsoras.
@@elijahmims1928 I always thought Umeki was better than both of them.
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@@SherryDC I don't understand.
I hope I get to see Zero vs MkLeo again one day. Zero got me into smash bros in the first place!
It would be great to see zero and mkleo competing again, this time to be the best of smash bros ultimate or at leat in frieldy matches.
It is funny comparing Nairo talking about Smash versus ZeRo. It is crazy to think MKLeo is dominating just by not giving an inch, but it is so hard to not give an inch, especially once you get caught of guard and Leo's other strength is capitalizing on the advantage as much as possible when the risk is balanced. I think Peach players are just going to be used to giving up stage control to safely grab projectiles along with other characters that pull them, such as Link.
This idea is what separates top consistent tekken players with other tournament players.
It's harder for people to build that idea in smash because you don't really "see" the risk vs reward.
Smash players have it built in their minds to always try to outread and out neutral their opponents. This causes them to go for unnecessary reads in favorable positions that cost them the advantage.
At times it will garner them the win and what not but to be "consistent" you have to make those decisions when to be disciplined
Lost the weight and lookin good🙌🏾 good to see. And it's crazy when you hear pro's or former pro's talk about smash. Kinda dope to hear the analysis.
These how to videos been a real change
10/10 content. Keep it up man!
Can you make a video giving your take on which Smash GOAT is the GOAT of Smash GOATS?
Isai (64)
Armada (Melee)
M2k (Brawl)
Zero (Smash 4)
Leo (Ultimate)
Im pretty sure that the person who eliminated mkleo at evo was AC, the metaknight player from Tijuana/San Diego
I LOVE the fact that pros are all of a sudden talking more publicly about analyzing smash gameplay and can't help but feel like ZeRo's recent influence is a big contributor. Coincidence?!?!?
There’s a reason Leo is the goat and the most respected smash ultimate player in the world. You can study him but give him a while and he’ll have you downloaded.
But it's like zero is saying, if you haven't even gotten past the point of making nervous mistakes and losing leads, then the character study doesn't really matter. Like it's easy for Leo to capitalize when everyone else makes more mistakes than him. That was zeros main point. If people could be as consistent in their fundamentals as leo them they could begin to break down his particular game.
@@sebastiansullivan4770d so why why can’t Leo break down their game lol? His fundamentals is why he’s number one and when he tries he’s head and shoulders above everyone else literally no one will ever have a neutral as good as him? Even if that happens he’s smart and can just keep adapting to them faster than they can to him so he’ll just win, Mkleo not a npc he’s a human too you guys act like he’s just a boss in a game he’s far more than that he’s litterally a genius meant to play smash 😅
@@jeremiahtannehill8870 of course he is a genius at the game. But, what does that literally mean? When you break it down, it's a few things. One of them is that he doesn't make those nervous mistakes that everyone else does while under pressure. Just because he is the best doesn't mean you can't analyze and understand why he is the best. It doesn't come down to things that are beyond human comprehension. Like, he makes better decisions, he is more consistent but he is not perfect and you can see his mistakes too sometimes. It's just that he makes less of them and in a game which is won and lost on single interactions it really helps to have nerves of steel and data about how to optimally react in specific scenarios.
Love the new zero....keep up the amazing work brother your growth is noticed 🍻🔥
Hey zero, great analysis!
Wondering if you still follow other smash game scenes, like Melee/PM on your free time as well, or do you just see Ultimate these days?
He went off against his haters.
Yay!!! Youre finally back with glasses! Good video bro
You and Leo both cleaned up very nicely from the cubby bois you both used to be. Awesome to see.
I like your analysis videos the most out of everyone’s, very descriptive and in depth on every small thing
Don't forget zero is the first person to beat Leo in ultimate so he knows what he's talking about
Yeah, but things have changed drastically since then. I would love to see them go at it again.
that was when they were demoing the game basically
Nobody against MKLeo is the King of the Smash.
Zero I did not recognize you since I last watched your content during the covid days!!
You know i feel like the first time i saw muteace was in a set against you in smash ultimate, so its nice to see him having come this far.
Want to beat MKLeo? Just be a 14-year-old Mexican kid that mains Cloud and Aegis… oh wait
Exactly! And why? Because spargo is also that kind of player that just manages really well under pressure and rarely drops his game.
@@sebastiansullivan4770ut Leo has a better h2h record so yeah he’s better than Spargo he’s more consistent than Spargo too😅
@@jeremiahtannehill8870 for sure he is, but don't you agree that spargo has that cool demeanour and come back factor that no one else other than Leo seems to possess? He just has the aura of natural talent to me that Leo also seems to have.
I always enjoy zero and hungrybox smash commentary. Y'all two should collab 🤙
ZeRo vs Leo sets were fire
I would love to see a breakdown like this of genesis 7 grands of Marss vs Leo
love this type of content. Would like to see more commentary for matches for entertainment
I would honestly love to see you fight MkLeo at a tournament for a surprise round.
Top players not studying is crazy.
Man this crazy I used to get my shit kicked in by MuteAce at our Miami locals a few years back now I’m watching his analysis
You need some quiet background music
Keep doing your thing zero! Ur awesome
10:15 nice wavebounce from leo there?
The real way is to play with Naitosharp for 4 hours.
To know your opponent, you need to study them in order to win!
I do hope people learn from this and realize that, yes, even Leo can be analyzed and improved upon. Leo is fantastic, no doubt, and very inspirational in the way he plays the game, but he is NOT perfect nor a GOD; he is human, and even at the most minute, nuanced level you can learn to identify player habits.
What do you guys think in the comments about the slingshot tech from gimr I have been teaching it to my ganondorf amiibo he uses it but not a lot
I will never get this good
you wont with the self limiting belief thats for sure.
@Multi whether time is used well or not depends on your goals in life. Some people want to master their craft, which takes a lot of dedication.
@Multi Personally for me, I really like fighting games so I like to play games competitively anyway. You may not get anything out of it, which is okay, but I get a lot of fun out of trying to get better at fighting games
@Multi there is more to life than growing your bank account, you also need to grow as a person, acquiring skills in any domain is a means of doing that. So you do get something back from it, that id argue is more valuable than money.
@Multi this guy is speaking facts. Keep a hobby that hardly makes you money as a hobby
Ove ur analysis would love to see you vs Leo now. Give u time to prep.
How to beat the GOAT:Be the Billy🐐
¿Cuándo regresarás a los torneos?
So sad you fall from grace. Those girls are crazy, I used to root for you on tournaments
Unfortunately humanity doesn’t care about suffering they cause and the smash community fully confirmed that
Why does zero keep losing followers? Kind of sad to see it goes down everytime i check out a new video
Blame Twitter stans
Por mera curiosidad, cuánto cobras por el coach? 👀
So basically, in order to beat Leo you have to become Leo? oof, gg.
How to beat any player...Hope they mess up
Am I the only one who feels like Leo's Joker is a bit sift since he's been maining Byleth and other characters? I think he took too much time off this character and needs to get back in shape. And I say that despite him winning. Like he could have been more dominant I think.
You don't. You either have what it takes to be at the top, or you don't. People always discount the inherent, genetic and physiological aspect to being the BEST at something. Anyone can be good with practice, only a lucky few can be truly GREAT. No one becomes the #1 with ONLY practice.
Zero looks so hot now who would of imagined
You didn't even crop the video so e can see the score
ZeRo with a hat
ZeRo with a hat
10:28 😂😂😂
some people have been wondering
Damn looking icy with the chain
Is Zero still with Vanessa?
Yes
Awesome video
Alguien sabe que fue de samsora?
W content lately
I bet zer0 has friendly sets with mkleo, sparg0 and maister
Also think mkleo is broken because he eats performance enhancing, beefy cheese empanadas.
I know he used to play with Leo and Spargo, not sure that they've played together in a while though
@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd Doubt Leo severed his friendship. Just better to keep it out of the public to avoid pointless drama.
@@alexmartin6561 I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. At the least I've seen videos where Leo will still refer to his beating ZeRo in 4 as his most proud smash moments and you can tell that he still holds ZeRo in the highest regard as a player
@@alexmartin6561 still follows him on twitter tho?
@@yasserjimenez8070 he was agreeing with you
you should be a commentator should you ever find the drive for smash again
How to be good at newer smash titles: Avoid fighting, don't approach, hide away and spam defensive options, just generally don't do anything that could be considered entertaining to watch
Saved u 20 minutes
Seriously tho, isolate any 30 second clip of top level smash ultimate and recognize how little fun is being had
Bring back sneaking into streamers arenas?
Lo malo es que todo este análisis, Leo lo hace durante los juegos y de alguna manera tiene la disciplina para realizar los movimientos necesarios
lmao that title !
You wanna beat leo, you only need to git gud
Love ur vids
Awesome video.
Mkgod
Really? But didn't he lose to Gluttony?
show us instead of making youtube money from him
Tweek will over take leo this year
Zero on that leo shade cuz he fell off
Or be esam playing outrageous
Haven’t watched yet, but I believe that MKLeo being as beloved as he is is actually detrimental to the scene as a whole. Not saying we should hate him, but many players, even the top players themselves, put him on a pedestal and see him as their idol or model or whatever.
You can never beat someone that’s your idol. You have to be able to cast them aside and say they aren’t as good as they are in order to surpass them. It makes sense because your idol can’t be someone that’s worse than you.
Zero play competitive again pleaseeeee
Zero you are the best
Bet
interesting