Here's EXACTLY How I Mix My Voice
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2022
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Here's a complete breakdown of exactly how I tune my vocal chain for my workhorse microphones the ElectroVoice RE20 and the Austrian Audio OC818. I through in the SM7B for funsies!
In this Tutorial I'll walk you through exactly how to mix voiceover from EQ, Compression, Harmonic Saturation, and all the other complex stuff that many don't bother to deal with for all the microphones!
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Funny how you're cool with something and use it all the time, and then you post it to the public lol. I think the RE20 chain is too bright now. Thoughts?
I started to say the RE20 sounds like a Condenser and the 818 sounds like a dynamic!
@@Rod-Wheeler really?? Wow interesting :)
This happens to me with my guitar tone all the time. Lol I thought it sounded pretty good to me but I'm listening on Skullcandy earbuds today instead of my AKGs that I usually browse RUclips on.
so interesting how ears, taste, and perhaps headphones offer different perspectives. The SM7B sounded dead to me and the RE20 sounded alive and resonant. That being said - my takeaway that I came here to state is quite different than what I just said: It's amazing to me how one can end up with essentially the same result with different equipment. Putting something up that is essentially an A/B comparison is not really the most reasonable thing...in the sense that in real life we hear one mic and we would probably still have to go back to the A/B comparison to figure out which is which particularly if a few days or more had passed. As always, great to hear you and see you!
Ya know, i think the oc18 is a little bit over processed. Bit too much bass, maybe a bit too bright. And maybe even a little too much compression. I always thought less was more, with that said i still do target some real surgical frequencies as i'm sure you like to as well. I'm a big pro q 3 guy. I totally wrote this before you showed your eq, sounds about how it looks.
I like the idea of gullfoss, big time. But it definitely seems to be scooping the mids a bit too much. Definitely hearing too much in the 1k region with that oc18, you may actually be emphasizing your more nasally frequencies.
The RE-20 is definitely still a little boxy, and too bright like you mentioned. It has that sort of sound where it feels like hearing your own voice when you have a cold. Just feels congested. But hey, better than dry!
With all of this said, for me, and i hope for any other audio engineer, processing vocals inside of a mix is WAY different than processing live/recorded spoken word. I've always gone for a warmer, lighter sound with spoken word. Whereas with vocals, it makes way more sense to really push it, so it's more even and jives in the mix. I think you're going a little too far into the vocals range when you're processing a voiceover.
really helped me out a ton, i mainly copied what you did and it seems to work pretty well for me, i dialed it a bit but you definitely got me a lot closer than i ever would on my own. thanks for the helpful videos.
This was actually really helpful. I’ve been struggling with learning the basics of eqing singing vocals and this video literally solved a bunch of my issues. Well presented!
Glad I could help!
This was helpful to see you explain the plugins and what you're typically adjusting
Glad I could help!
THANK YOU for allowing me to finally get peaceful sleep. I’ve been struggling for months to get my audio perfect and this did it for me and my RE20 so perfectly!
No one does it like audio haze. You really are a blessing.
I'm honored that you even took the time to say that thank you!
This is so fire i love this content. Thank you bro
damn the new set up looks so nice!
Thanks dude :)))
Enjoyed the vid so much! Thank u, it’s gonna help me a lot 👌🏽
So happy to hear dude!
These are amazing
They all sound really good
Thanks dude!
That was great timing lol I've been in a rabbit hole of people's vocal chains for the past like three days😂
Hahaha I'll happy continue the streak
Amazing! Thx!!
I have been trying to learn how to treat my audio for voice overs thjs video will be really helpful
Glad I could help my friend :)
I’ve been waiting for Black Friday to grab Izotope’s Mix and Master Advanced. I plan to use their sculptor (like gulfoss - a spectral shaper) to clean up the midrange and to deess, then using a EQ that tracks the harmonics (either that or potentially some surgical dynamic dips at the resonances, will have to experiment), then running into a deesser, a compressor to level out the audio, a colorful compressor (barely touching that - mostly for saturation and vibe), then hitting an exciter gently to add even harmonics and give a little bit of extra clarity.
Sounds like my kind of chain! Sounds like a beautiful sounding rig, would love to hear it
I’ll try to throw a snippet of a Grimm’s fairy tale in the discord once I get it all worked out. Finally have the time to record now that I’m in college 😂
Awesome vid man! Can you do a comparison video on the shure sm57 and the shure 545sd?
If I can get my hands on the 545, sure!
Great stuff!! Really appreciate it. I'm a processing minimalist. I try to do everything mechanical that I can before processing, room tuning, mic choice, placement ect. I hate to EQ !
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Nice! But no EQ’ing at all?? Not even a little???
@@AudioHaze Extremely minimal!
can you do a video on how you use the plugins to do live audio?? i use OBS to record livestreams and have to do my eq and everything live. thanks!
Great update & big help for me 👌🏻having both RE20 & SM7B
One question, it looks like the RE20 HP switch is active, do you see much difference when in neutral mode?
I’m also playing with switch on/off options and honestly prefer it active (for my voice) as it sounds less muddy but seems most of YT creators preach to keep it in neutral.
Hints/thoughts?
Thxs again !
Good eye! I have been using it with the HP active yes, I found it makes my voice a tad bit clearer, but I actually switched it off after this video just to experiment, my RE20 chain was just a tide bright so we'll see if it yields some different results :)
I just stumbled on your site (yes i subscribed)...i have a a couple questions about an earlier video you did in which you mentioned Studio One by Presonus...do you recommend it? Also, how do you feel about using the Presonus Studio Live 16 mixer with built in interface with Studio one?Necessary? Mixer and daw? ( I play quiet acoustic guitar and vocal)..so confused as to which way to go! Like your honestly! Thanks
Thank you
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I only REALY need your help... I finnaly could get my SSL2+ and Im so Happyyyy but when I connect it to my windows 10 laptop ABLETON can´t find the 3 and 4 output and my laptop can´t get the 1/2 and 3/4 outputs together in one only set.
HOPE You see this comment and can help me as soon as possible...😔😔😔
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Thanks! Yeah I agree, really coming together, studio tour coming soon :)
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Is there a particular reason you use the first plug-in EQ rather than the stock ableton ones? I try to make the most of all the stock plug-ins unless there's some compelling feature, and I don't really see the advantage of the Infinity EQ over the native EQ Eight.
Nice vid. My voice has a quality that I describe as sounding like a goose honking through a telephone, so I cut a lot at around 1-2 kHz. My fav compressor is an LA2A (optical comp) emulation, but it's been a while since I've tried a different one. I also really like TDR Nova at 1-2 kHz to take some harshness off my voice, and at around 7.5 kHz to de-ess. I'm sort of learning as I go, but this is where I'm at now. Do you ever have any EQ cuts for room resonances?
Definitely! For room resonances, I just suggest not BOOSTING to find them, but if you hear any obvious resonances without boosting first, THEN boost to find it and cut. Hope that makes sense haha
Ya it’s usually from 300-800hz. Boost each frequency till you hear something bad. Then cut it by a few db. Be careful not to cut too much or with too wide a q. If it starts to sound effected or artificial cut less dbs. I also think it’s worth spending the money on hiring a really experienced mixing engineer at least once. Someone whose work you admire. I had Larry Crane mix a record and he did is a couple days what would have taken me months. Plus he has gear that I just don’t have or will unless I get rich. That’s my two cents. I also did a a record with John Baccagaluppi. These are the two guys responsible for the magazine Tape-Op which is essential reading for anyone into recording. Old comment but though I’d respond anyway. Thanks for your channel.
I downloaded your chain for sm7b from google drive. What software/s should i download to use it? Sorry totally new. Just got my sm7b and audient evo 8 today
Hello can I ask did superlux d421 microphone need a mic booster?
Great video, is your sm7b chain similar for a mic like the sm57?
It is yes! Essentially just less of a high shelf on the EQ and less input gain on the preamp
@@AudioHaze Cool! Yeah the 57 is indeed a brighter mic. Never thought of using fresh air other than singing vocals, I'll try it out. Thanks!
would you ever review loop machines? I've always wanted to use one
Probably not on this channel no :/ sorry!
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Thank you Rainer! I seriously can’t thank you enough
I hate that on the GOXLR that I use which is great for streaming and that stuff, that there is no thing like a high shelf and low shelf or high pass low pass, so setting it up mess ups my brain and I just can´t setup my SM7B to sound good
Well, to be fair most hardware interfaces don't have that stuff! I would recommend building some sort of chain in OBS if you're steaming! They have a few plugins native to the software that should help
@@AudioHaze Thanks! I will try that, Ive been fighting quite with it to make it sound the best for my voice
Why you decided to use Ableton? :)
curious if you’re still using Gulfloss 10 months later
just FYI, I don't think you're quite explaining properly how Gulfoss works. The recover setting dictates the eq to boost certain frequencies that it deems to be masked from other over dominated frequencies, whereas tame is the reverse, reducing frequencies that it deems to be over dominating the signal. And the bias really just dictates whether you want the eq to focus on the low end (negative %) or the high end (positive %). It's not about its bias towards the recover or tame because you're already essentially dialing in the bias through adjusting those individual parameters.
Thanks for the info! I knew I wasn’t quite explaining it right, this really clears it up, appreciate it
@@AudioHaze no problem boss. keep up the great videos!
Hi The Chill Melodist, Eddie from Soundtheory here. This description isn't quite right either. Recover and Tame and both capable of boosts/cuts across the entire audible spectrum on their own, so they aren't exactly opposite's of one another and they don't focus on low-end or high-end as mentioned in the video. The processing is entirely dependent on the source information and not grouped by certain frequency regions or bands.
Your description of Bias is incorrect. Bias is simply telling Gullfoss whether to prefer Recover or Tame in borderline cases. It is essentially a user defined weight that is then assigned to either Recover or Tame when Gullfoss is on the fence about which to choose. I recommend using the built-in metering (bias, recover, and tame meters on the left, brighten on the bottom) to test the functionality. For example, set Bias to 100% and Tame to 200% with everything else at zero. You're essentially telling Gullfoss to favor Recover in all cases, but the Recover parameter is set to zero. Dial Tame back down to a more reasonable settings and now you have a cut-only processing that works great as a de-esser.
Is the hissing supposed to be in the background? It sounds like somebody is playing the drums with a brush in the background. Unless that's Jazzy music for effect? 🤔 2:48 it's gone
Yo! I mentioned in the beginning (on a text overlay) that its my fan on my laptop. I was running Ableton and screen recording all at the same time, usually not an issue, but if I'm screen recording it unfortunately is!
Fresh Air is a really good plugin and it's free too
Totally :)
What's the software you use?
Ableton! Sort of non conventional for VO, but it’s extremely powerful
Why not just re-take the compressor/EQ screw up?
how in the freaking heck do you learn how to do all this with my audio? shit this stuff is complicated. do you have a course or something or a breakdown on how i can do this? lol crap i've always used the audio that my screen recorder auto records. lol
New camera as well!??
Yes! Although the camera in this video is still the old one, next vid is new camera tho
You mean voice over yeah?
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i cant type
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Suggestion: Gain matching is imperative for comparing sounds. Louder sounds are always interpreted as being “better” (by our brain).
Yep that's true :) when comparing mixes I always gain match. This was more of a casual example of my processing than a direct comparison of tones. That said, gain matching isn't the whole story. RMS levels are always going to be higher on the processing signal due to any compression we're doing.
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In another word u use a voice changer
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what is a bb belt??
@@AudioHaze bb belt = rizz
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