Man, I'm still technically Catholic, and i gotta say: if you think my God is so weak and dumb that He can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, I'm frankly insulted on His behalf
I think it has to do with their believing it leads to impure activities, kind of the same way pot is considered a gateway drug. Also I think they have a problem with it having demons in the game and being able to play as half demon characters ( Tieflings)
I had a player from a very religious background join a couple of my games once. She was the girlfriend of one of my players and wanted to see what he was getting up to so I let her join in a few sessions. She played a side-character in the final boss-fight of a d&d campaign before creating her own character for an urban-fantasy/comedy-horror game. She seemed to enjoy the game but was rather quite. I initially assumed this was a combination of not being 100% sure of how the game worked and English not being her first language, but it later turned out she was also unsure about whether the game was affecting her soul. She later talked with a priest about my games and their content. Apparently he was one of the sensible ones who said there was nothing inherently wrong with the games and the stories seemed to encourage team-work and looking out for one's community. This lead to a running joke that my DMing style was approved by the Catholic Church.
@@darknessnights13 No idea, claimed he was had run a few campaigns but now that I actually understand the rules there's 0 chance he actually knew what he was doing lol
@@KCohere33 Nahhh, the warlock was super chill out of session, I don't think she was the one to come up with that bs resurrection thing. We thought about it tho
I wonder have you thought on Bringing back Tenshi into your campaign as an NPC or was he extremely sullied to the point you do t want to be reminded of it?
The one with the Black Dragon is actually pretty BS. I mean Arrows don't fly straight forever, so if you think "its a bird" and shoot at it, but its actually a much larger creature even further away, the arrow wouldn't hit, because the target was assumed to be closer. In addition, if the dragon was far enough away it would look like a bird it would be well outside of the range of the bow.
The casual sexism thing. If you want to play an unlikable character that gains redemption through the power of friendship, you need to do that with secure friendships you've adjust established IRL and you need to bring it up during session 0 to make sure everyone else is on board.
If i was the rangers player toward the end, i would bust out the trigonometry and prove that an archer needs an approximate distance to target in order to hit a shot, and couldnt possibly have mistaken a 2 foot avian for a 25 foot monstrosity
The dm is a big dumb dumb. He probably would not care and force you to do as he says or another black dragon would spawn. Or the fungus suddenly progresses faster then you anticipated and you cannot judge things properly from a far distance. You now suffer a -8 penalty to perception scores and darkvision is removed from you. This is the vibe im getting from that dm.
The dragon should've take the fungus too, since it touched him. Plus for the dragon to be rhe size of bird, it would've needed to be a couple thousand feet in the air, well beyond a bows reach.
More DM's are created out of spite than you think. A player gets a taste of D&D, doesn't like how their DM is running things, decided to leave and make his own D&D campaign with metaphorical black jack & hookers. Heck Matt Mercer has a similar origin story.
@@Asher_Tye I can’t find the study, but apparently it’s been scientifically tested that humans can gain bigger bursts of energy through spite, than through anger, joy or fear.
"I think my character is overpowered" "Naw, it's fine..." "Anyway I was being unfair to your character bc they're overpowered." sdklfgasdfhgadljgkdfnlvknadlk
Our DM gave one of our party memebers an item that he ended up regretting. The Staff of the Python at lvl 3/4! He expected us to use it up in a strong combat, but before it ever hit 0 hit points, we’d recall it back to staff form, and pull it out for another combat. What prevents the horror story is that our DM communicated this regret to us, and we offered to have him take back or alter the item. Our DM actually said no, that he’d let us have fun with it a bit longer (we named the snake Pi), then find a way for us to get rid of it later. Just last session he finally revealed how he was gonna make us get rid of the staff (we’re now lvl 11 and STILL have it), turns out Pi is a ancient key to a snake themed temple dungeon, and it’s a one-use only key. Pi’s days are numbered…
Around level 9 or so depending on how prevalent magic items are it gets power crept out due to needing attunement and only being able to take 2-3 real hits, but I like the communication and how he's making it a unique item...tho by the sounds of it you are getting the best of it this campaign but are unlikely to see it ever again
My DM gave me an item called a Twisted Lyre which allowed me to make a DC 14 performance check, and if I succeeded, all creatures within 30 feet would be entranced by the music for I think 3 rounds, and afterwards I'd have advantage on persuasion checks against them for an hour, but if I failed the check, the creatures would attack me. She also ruled that I could chose to exclude creatures from the effect. I got it at I think level 5 and didn't use it much, being a squishy bard, but by level 12 I had +13 to performance and could no longer fail the skill check. So she's ruled that creatures that can't be charmed are immune to the effect. I'm sure if it becomes a problem we'll talk about it and she might put additional restrictions on it, because that's how reasonable people deal with situations like that.
>Makes the characters he likes OP >Change his mind and start killing them in BS ways >Blame the player for having an OP character, when he gave the stats I don't think this dungeon master will have many players at the end of his game...
I wouldn't be surprised if the DM of the overpowered ranger story made an RPG horror story about how he had to "deal with an OP ranger in the most epic way"
3rd Story: Ahhh, DM? The dragon just clawed Tenchi twice, so it's infected by the fungus and passes out. So, guys, do we kill this thing, or blackmail it (with knowledge of the cure) to get its help with finishing the quest to save me/possibly it?
Considering that H.P. Lovecraft started believing that the creatures and deities that he created were real, I would not doubt that some people believe in some TTRPGs pantheon or even worships them
I mean, some of the pantheons in DnD are actually from real religions (Norse gods, Egyptian gods, Greek/Roman, Celtic, etc) who still have worshippers in the modern day. But there's always the decision from the DM if they want to homebrew the gods or use the ones in the books (where some are real for some people).
@@raphaelj.f.2602I have never seen proof that Lovecraft thought his creations were real; actually Lovecraft as far as I've always understood it was an atheist. I know he may have joked with his friends and correspondents that they were real, and it could be assumed that some of his newer correspondents or people he did revision work for may have taken him at surface value or they themselves may have believed that his creations were real, such as William Lumley. But that's as much as I've ever heard. But I could very well be wrong.
@@ljones121 I'm not saying he wasn't an atheist, I've read that in the end of his life he started believe those things were real. How true are those affirmations? Idk, it's the internet, so take it with a grain of salt.
Whenever I encountered people talking about the devilish dnd game, I just tell them it's a game where you fight demons and the devil itself has spread the lie that this game is for his worship.
@@sakatababa You are making less sense the more you talk about it. Why don't you try explaining what you say instead of trying to insult. Because that just makes you sound like you really don't know what you speak of and are just being a troll.
I when it comes to the making somebody overpowered or giving them an overpowered weapon I can actually give an example of something like that being dealt with fairly. In a D&D, RUclips channel called the unexpectables. One of the characters has a lightning spear. And even though it only uses its charge once per battle, it does a ridiculous amount of damage each time the player used it. Then, one day during a fight, the player got a NAT 1. The DM rolled up to see the consequences. And she had ruled that the weapon would break, but she didn’t just make it break and that was it when he threw it and it shattered, it released a lightning attack similar to a fireball that took out one of the creatures they were fighting. So, even though the weapon was gone, it’s still went out with a bang and help the party.
I was wondering does the fungus only work on humanoids cause if the dragon attacked with any part besides its breath the fungus should knock the dragom out right?
Story 2 - NTA. While there are boundaries that should be considered common sense, this is one that needs to be clearly stated. Otherwise, it's very difficult to avoid crossing boundaries one is not aware of.
As someone who has left my birth faith, I've personally chosen to revisit it because I enjoy the fiction of knowing how to write faithful characters as well as characters that have violently lost theirs. While my DM is a fairly faithful man, he's not the type to force, he just knows the stories and its an interesting subject. Consent as always, some lost people don't want to find their way again and are content with it.
The moment I heard the phrase "I'm the only female player and only female character" I sighed in defeat. Once that is mentioned in the story it never seems to go well.
0:00 I've thought about starting a DnD campaign with the Youth Group at my church, and if that's the premise, I wouldn't see any issues with Christian/religious themes coming up in the game. At the same time, if I'm just playing with friends, I don't know why anyone should try to turn the game into proselytizing. 5:11 Parents do have the right to decide what they want their kids to be exposed to, especially up to a certain age. At the same time, they can't shelter their child from this forever. Better option would (obviously) have been getting information from the OP, rather than immediately firing him and getting into a tirade about how DnD is evil. 11:16 First, this is why I prefer Standard Array over rolled stats. Second, that DM is an idiot. He turns a character into a ridiculously OP demigod and then gets upset because the character HE created is so powerful? Third, Did someone do the math wrong as far as the attack/damage modifiers? It sounds like he had a +1 longbow and the Archery fighting style... and added his proficiency to damage instead of just attack (5 (DEX) +3 (PB) +2 (Archery) +1 (magic bow) = +11 for attack modifier). But it's on the DM to catch these kinds of mistakes when they happen. Especially when it sounds like a lot of the character creation mechanics were handled by the DM.
Hi! That ranger here, pretty sure the DM just had no idea what he was doing lol, some people did the calculations and it's fully possible but he didn't put any of the things needed to get those modifiers on my stat sheet so :/
It hurts to think about, but I’m guessing at least some of the kids whose parents taught them that D&D was satanic continued to believe them after they grew up. Then they raised their own kids and repeated the cycle. Also, I think the literature written about the evils of gaming can have a surprisingly long half-life in local church libraries, so there might still be people stumbling across it for the first time even now.
...if a massive dragon is far enough away to look like a bird, there's no way it would even notice an arrow being shot at it. It should be several _thousand_ feet out of range!
The ranger I am playing in my current campaign has a +12 to her attack roles but that is mostly because I picked multiple skills and feats that stack for the weapon. She does not cause as much damage as compared to the other party members, especially the paladin, but the consistent damage output is nice.
My Gloomstalker Ranger is like that. +12 or +13 to attack rolls (can't remember off the bat), thanks to high dexterity, and the Archery fighting style giving an additional +2. Very accurate, and as a Gloomstalker, each round, I can redo the first missed attack of the round (still using an extra arrow, it's not reroll the attack, it's just making another after a miss). The incredible accuracy is great for guaranteeing pressure on things or clearing minions out, or hitting high AC targets, but for easier to hit things, Sharpshooter is a great spike in damage thanks to the feat.
16:50 So, I have go to example for speed of land travel before trains and cars and stuff were a thing. In the early 1700's, the King of Sweden had been staying in what is now Turkey for some time (long story), and finally the Ottoman rulers were kicking him out and he had to make his way back to Sweden. This journey, about 800-1000 miles, thereabouts, from modern Istanbul to Stralsund took him 15 days by horseback, an incredibly quick journey for the time. This is probably about the max speed someone could have gone at the time. Europe is a pretty small continent, his journey was one-way, and of course he was booking it on horse. A much bigger continent, two-way, by foot would take so much significantly longer without straight up teleportation.
I can see how the "child of a god" can work. I played one in my first D&D game. Turned out my Tiefling was the son of the Neutral Evil goddess Potencia (this world's version of Asmodeus. Who his mom was was changed in session 4 to Potencia, because the DM felt inspired and it was great). Which eventually lead my Fighter to multiclass into Divine Soul Sorcerer, 'cause he assumed he was going to take over for her. It was a hilarious misunderstanding ooc, 'cause what Potencia really wanted was to make her boy her Warlock. DM had a custom Warlock pact for this specific thing, which funny enough a friend took during a reboot of the campaign. As far as I know, none of us got special treatment in that game and everyone was allowed to be a bit special, as long as it was reasonable (I was an Asmodeus Bloodline tiefling, who had wings, but they were part of his personal quest, to regain, after he had been harmed in his backstory by an adventuring party).
5:00 A bunch of years ago, my regular group tried our hand at Dark Heresy. And, after a while, we were all getting kinda tired of it and wanted to do something different. So, the GM set up a "kill everyone" plot and let us all die in a blaze of glory stopping something that would have killed everyone in the subsector, with all of us dying in the process. 16:52 I mean, that's including the multiple times they stopped in a place for a month or two.
Not sure what it is, but this skit was great. XD Want to give more input, I think the speed was great, and it's really good delivery. Gotta say though- nuke dragons. What in the world?
I’m a Christian, as are most of my friends. My general rule is to not include real-world, modern religions with significant followings at all. I don’t want to disrespect others’ faith or lack thereof, and as someone who practices a monotheistic religion, shoving my god into a world where “all myths are true” is just uncomfortable and potentially sacrilegious to me. Also I would really hate it if I played with a group of atheists and they manufactured a game where my character’s patron deity turns out to be evil or nonexistent purely for the sake of making me feel bad about being religious, so I don’t know why anyone would want to do that to someone else
6:03 The term came from interactions with certain people on the internet. Basicly If you are in a conversation and there is a person who keeps on repeating the same argument or statement over and over again and semingly unable to comprehand your point or what you are saying it is like an NPC in a video game when you exhausted the dialoge options.
I think that DMs who forcibly turn their players into Powerhouses have no right to complain to the character about them being OP. however, I also think that OP characters should definitely be prepared to be the target, as it sort of makes them a defactor "main character" Ultimately, I see a lot of problems with basic communication in a lot of these DND horror stories where even just a simple "is it okay if we take the characters/plot in this direction" at the table would have solved a lot of hurt feelings.
But the player repeatedly tried talking about feeling too strong and get the DM to nerf for balance's sake. And considering the Warlock was a demigod with a god patron/parent who auto-revived and charmed an ancient dragon, I'm guessing that was the main character.
@ArcCaravan yeah. Sorry. But my point was definitely a lack of proper communication specifically from the DM in this story. He also failed to listen to his player's communication.
0:55 personally I really don’t like atheist characters in settings where gods are real and interact with the world. It’s like the d&d equivalent of flat-earthers. Still this should have been a discussion away from the table and straightened out with the DM
I think their's story potential in an atheist character, like the difference between clerics and celestial warlocks or acknowledging the gods exist without worshipping them.
Atheism gets weird in D&D because gods are vary real there, but having someone who believes in gods but simply wants to be left alone by them would make more sense.
I could see a DnD atheist believing the gods are just popular warlock patrons. Or aknowledge the difference between knowing the gods exist and worshipping them. Though in this case, it seemed like DnD got caught in the middle of attempts to "cure" or express atheism.
I love how the dragon situation just makes 0 sense. A longbow (which is likely what they were using) only has a range of 600 ft. And at 600 ft, a dragon will for sure look like a dragon. Its impossible to shoot an arrow at a dragon when it appears to be the size of a bird. Its just bullshit
Maybe a little heavy handed but most dnd settings specify that the gods are very much real, maybe play a modern setting ttrpg if the influence of gods annoys you?
I don't get why people think their cool character concepts are RUINED because they went through a bad campaign. Just make them again and play them through a good story! They're not ruined unless you let them be ruined. It's the same way fictional characters aren't ruined because of what a fanfiction author writes. It's not canon.
What. How did the ranger have such a high to hit and damage bonus? 3 proficiency + 5 dex mod is 8, and archery style increases that to 10. Meanwhile, you don't add proficiency to damage, so that should only be +5. Am i missing something
Probably because of the slavery aspect, the sexist story reminded me of one of my D&D games. I'm the only female in the D&D games I play, and usually the only female PC. My PC's backstory included her living with her half-family of slave owners, and due to her abuse, she was led to believe the conditions they were in was normal (e.g. multiple people crammed into one small room). This is of course not good and the DM had approved her backstory. During the game, when my PC goes to get rooms for the party, she only got one room, under the impression that it's the norm. The Fighter made her realised how weird it was for one woman to share a room with four men she's only known for less than two weeks when my PC mentioned bits of her home life (he's the only PC that didn't know her backstory, hence having the most neutral, non-sympathetic opinion, which she needed to hear) At the end of the session, I asked the party if what I did made them uncomfortable and told them I could change things if they wanted. The Artificer said it was fine, and was happy that I was roleplaying her trauma. The Fighter enjoyed the confrontation because I didn't seem to roleplay much with the group. Disturbing topics can be brought into a campaign if the entire group is fine with it. The party wanted my PC to unlearn her problematic beliefs through the campaign. I really love my D&D group for making me feel welcomed.
I love when conservative Christians come in to start judging, especially because when they do it with me, a practicing Catholic, I just tell them, 'Have your pastor call mine if you're so concerned. But don't get into the debate of who the better Christian is with me. Based on your judgemental attitude, you're unlikely to beat ANYONE in that contest. ;)" (yes I do wink on the walkaway)
That scale thing doesn't really have any connection to Christianity. If anything it's a connection to Egyptian myth, Osiris weighing the hearts of the dead to determine whether they deserve an afterlife. As with the whole fungus thing, it was the GM's mistake calling the dragon a bird, not the player's - and don't dragons have legendary resistance on top of not being humanoid? That GM is... _incompetent._
Its very worth keeping in mind that its kinda nonsensical ti be an atheist in d&d where miracles happen constantly on an every day basis so its not really possible to make it reflect real life in that aspect.
Are we sure the DM in the first story was actually trying to force Christianity onto that guy? It may be that that's just what it seemed like to him because he's an Atheist that tried to play an Atheist character in a world where gods literally speak to people all the time. Also, your tip went up at around 3:33, but it probably should have gone up at around 3:55 - right after the part of the story it's referencing.
Intro Story. Without knowing more this may just be OP being hyper sensitive to certain aspects of his DM's playing style. After all OP wouldn't be the first player to over react to mundane things they don't like.
my parents are Christian but they allow me to play fantasy stuff all the time because they grew up with lord of the rings and other fantasy or story telling stuff stuff. so when I see this stuff where people flip the lid over something I'm like they're crazy and it's fiction not reality chill out.
You can’t claim that the gods don’t exist within the world of DnD considering the fact that they can literally manifest in front of the characters and bestow magic upon them depending on their class. So instead, an atheist in DnD should believe that the gods are unworthy of worship as opposed to them not existing at all
Story 2: NTA, story sounds like its embellished tho. Whole thing seems like a consequence of a lack of communication and transparency, both of which you need when working under a "Boss", especially in their house.
That "reap the consequences in the nursing home" line is kinda horrific, Crispy. Try to imagine that you get to your old age, you have serious medical problems impairing your quality of life, and the few people in your life that haven't already died off are trying to get petty revenge on you for something you did thirty years ago that you obviously can't change now. People who are growing up under the roof of controlling and crazy parents need to have some form of help, not just a festering thought that they'll get even in several decades.
Unfortunately, parental control is so absolute, and protective agencies so underfunded, that kids who are being straight-up abused can't even get help. I have exactly zero f's to give for tyranical parents who only feel bad about it once they lose their power. They had YEARS to reflect on their actions, apologize, and offer to make amends, but they didn't bother until they _needed_ something. That's not "petty revenge," that's "natural consequences." The time to express regret is _before_ you have something to gain from it. Otherwise, in the words of a former teacher, "You're not sorry, you're sorry you got _caught."_
"Scales weighing your good deeds and sin" isn't even a Judeo-Christian thing. It's most famously from Egyptian mythology. In Judeo-Christian beliefs, God just does the judging himself and doesn't need any scales
That doesn't really sound like Christianity in the intro, though? Scales of good and evil? God of fate? That sounds like its cribbing on ancient Egyptian mythos if anything? Guy is free to leave the group, but that's some real fragile atheism based on what he's describing. Deities and demigods are kind of a thing in most D&D games.
I don't think atheism in a D&D world makes sense since gods make themselves known all the time. Non follower or areligious would probably be a better description. Still, dick move to try to use a game to convert someone irl.
The intro really confused me. I get not believing in God irl but the gods are literally canon in DnD. Putting your atheism in your character makes little sense unless you're going for a goofy low-int build. Also almost every modern story with even the slightest supernatural tinge takes inspiration from one or more of the major religions out there. Christianity is obviously one of those common inspiration sources. tldr: If you don't want religion in your game then don't play DnD. Duh!
This is a piss-poor opinion that i would definately disagree. In some games, you can host a gritty realism game with 5e, and have clerics/paladins be considered like psychers from warhammer. The gods would be fabricated, but their faith they give is too much. This manifests into the game, and there you go. Its up to the dm if the god interferes with the mortal realm. Im sorry but Dnd can be hosted without gods, but it cannot host your attitude.
There could be cases of acknowledging gods exist without worshipping them or thinking their glorified patrons with special celestial warlocks. Though this situation was definitely more about a religious player trying to force beliefs on an atheist.
Man, I'm still technically Catholic, and i gotta say: if you think my God is so weak and dumb that He can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, I'm frankly insulted on His behalf
Amen to that.
Ditto.
I think it has to do with their believing it leads to impure activities, kind of the same way pot is considered a gateway drug. Also I think they have a problem with it having demons in the game and being able to play as half demon characters ( Tieflings)
To me as a Baptist these parents sound like they are in a straight up cult.
amen
As 'overpowered' as Tenshi supposedly was, in the grand scheme of the campaign, the character actually didn't even do anything.
I've heard this story before. I think the DM was trippin'.
That's bc the dm never actually used the stats. Stuff just happened regardless of saves. 😂
"they'll reap the consequences in the nursing home"
goddamn crispy 😂😂😂
Ever since crispy started the skits, hes been more and more ruthless. I’m here for it
Love him or hate him, he's spitting straight facts
honestly yea love the skits
It's the truth to!
I had a player from a very religious background join a couple of my games once. She was the girlfriend of one of my players and wanted to see what he was getting up to so I let her join in a few sessions. She played a side-character in the final boss-fight of a d&d campaign before creating her own character for an urban-fantasy/comedy-horror game.
She seemed to enjoy the game but was rather quite. I initially assumed this was a combination of not being 100% sure of how the game worked and English not being her first language, but it later turned out she was also unsure about whether the game was affecting her soul.
She later talked with a priest about my games and their content. Apparently he was one of the sensible ones who said there was nothing inherently wrong with the games and the stories seemed to encourage team-work and looking out for one's community. This lead to a running joke that my DMing style was approved by the Catholic Church.
... Okay that joke is funny^^
Catholic Church approves of ur campaign?, now that's a W Chad momment from the preist
That's actually really wholesome. It's nice when a religious leader is actually reliable and can give people real advice
Hi! I'm that ranger, that skit reenacted the scene perfectly lmao! Glad you decided to read my horror story ^-^
Haha, did you jump him?
if that was your story. how new was the dm XD
@@darknessnights13 No idea, claimed he was had run a few campaigns but now that I actually understand the rules there's 0 chance he actually knew what he was doing lol
@@KCohere33 Nahhh, the warlock was super chill out of session, I don't think she was the one to come up with that bs resurrection thing. We thought about it tho
I wonder have you thought on Bringing back Tenshi into your campaign as an NPC or was he extremely sullied to the point you do t want to be reminded of it?
The one with the Black Dragon is actually pretty BS. I mean Arrows don't fly straight forever, so if you think "its a bird" and shoot at it, but its actually a much larger creature even further away, the arrow wouldn't hit, because the target was assumed to be closer.
In addition, if the dragon was far enough away it would look like a bird it would be well outside of the range of the bow.
The casual sexism thing. If you want to play an unlikable character that gains redemption through the power of friendship, you need to do that with secure friendships you've adjust established IRL and you need to bring it up during session 0 to make sure everyone else is on board.
If i was the rangers player toward the end, i would bust out the trigonometry and prove that an archer needs an approximate distance to target in order to hit a shot, and couldnt possibly have mistaken a 2 foot avian for a 25 foot monstrosity
The dm is a big dumb dumb. He probably would not care and force you to do as he says or another black dragon would spawn. Or the fungus suddenly progresses faster then you anticipated and you cannot judge things properly from a far distance. You now suffer a -8 penalty to perception scores and darkvision is removed from you.
This is the vibe im getting from that dm.
It doesn't even need trig. If the dragon is so far away it looks like a bird, it's clearly out of range.
And if the dragon was so far away he was bird-sized to them, would the bow have that kind of range?
The dragon should've take the fungus too, since it touched him. Plus for the dragon to be rhe size of bird, it would've needed to be a couple thousand feet in the air, well beyond a bows reach.
I'm guessing DM ruled Ancient Black Dragons are immune to the poisonous fungus the same way it can be affected by Charm Person.
@@ArcCaravan maybe
Shouldn’t the dragon from the last story have had to save against the fungus? It touched op with its claw attacks
I thought the fungus had no save. Maybe DM wormed out of that by claiming poison dragons are immune to it.
@@ArcCaravan green dragons are poison, black dragons are acid.
2:20 he says “anthropomorphic talking rat” like it’s a bad thing. …on THIS channel? LOL
I assumed OP thought the anthropomorphic talking rat was out of place for a modern pre-apocolypse setting. Or Crispy thought OP thought that.
More DM's are created out of spite than you think. A player gets a taste of D&D, doesn't like how their DM is running things, decided to leave and make his own D&D campaign with metaphorical black jack & hookers. Heck Matt Mercer has a similar origin story.
Amazing what a little spite can do.
@@Asher_Tye I can’t find the study, but apparently it’s been scientifically tested that humans can gain bigger bursts of energy through spite, than through anger, joy or fear.
@@Demongunner7 From personal experience, I can confirm the feeling of "you know what? I'll prove you wrong" is a heck of a motivator.
@@kou7191 It really really is! Screw the power of friendship, the power of "Fuck you!" is the greatest power of all.
"I think my character is overpowered"
"Naw, it's fine..."
"Anyway I was being unfair to your character bc they're overpowered."
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And the DM keeps trying to blame the player for that.
"Forever DM played an anthropomorphic talking rat"
Crispy?
Definitely.
Never underestimate the power of spite. Both a horrible and motivating emotion.
Our DM gave one of our party memebers an item that he ended up regretting. The Staff of the Python at lvl 3/4! He expected us to use it up in a strong combat, but before it ever hit 0 hit points, we’d recall it back to staff form, and pull it out for another combat.
What prevents the horror story is that our DM communicated this regret to us, and we offered to have him take back or alter the item. Our DM actually said no, that he’d let us have fun with it a bit longer (we named the snake Pi), then find a way for us to get rid of it later. Just last session he finally revealed how he was gonna make us get rid of the staff (we’re now lvl 11 and STILL have it), turns out Pi is a ancient key to a snake themed temple dungeon, and it’s a one-use only key. Pi’s days are numbered…
Around level 9 or so depending on how prevalent magic items are it gets power crept out due to needing attunement and only being able to take 2-3 real hits, but I like the communication and how he's making it a unique item...tho by the sounds of it you are getting the best of it this campaign but are unlikely to see it ever again
My DM gave me an item called a Twisted Lyre which allowed me to make a DC 14 performance check, and if I succeeded, all creatures within 30 feet would be entranced by the music for I think 3 rounds, and afterwards I'd have advantage on persuasion checks against them for an hour, but if I failed the check, the creatures would attack me. She also ruled that I could chose to exclude creatures from the effect. I got it at I think level 5 and didn't use it much, being a squishy bard, but by level 12 I had +13 to performance and could no longer fail the skill check. So she's ruled that creatures that can't be charmed are immune to the effect. I'm sure if it becomes a problem we'll talk about it and she might put additional restrictions on it, because that's how reasonable people deal with situations like that.
Wonder how long it's gonna take for the last DM to decide the demigod warlock is also OP....
>Makes the characters he likes OP
>Change his mind and start killing them in BS ways
>Blame the player for having an OP character, when he gave the stats
I don't think this dungeon master will have many players at the end of his game...
I wouldn't be surprised if the DM of the overpowered ranger story made an RPG horror story about how he had to "deal with an OP ranger in the most epic way"
3rd Story: Ahhh, DM? The dragon just clawed Tenchi twice, so it's infected by the fungus and passes out. So, guys, do we kill this thing, or blackmail it (with knowledge of the cure) to get its help with finishing the quest to save me/possibly it?
Probably thought ancient poison dragon would be immune.
@@ArcCaravanBlack dragon is acid, poison would be a green dragon.
But yeah I can see that DM saying the fungus doesn't affect the dragon
Y'know the whole satanic panic thing going on makes me wonder if there's anyone out there who actively worships divine figures from any tabletop rpgs
Well, now I wonder the same thing. 😂
Considering that H.P. Lovecraft started believing that the creatures and deities that he created were real, I would not doubt that some people believe in some TTRPGs pantheon or even worships them
I mean, some of the pantheons in DnD are actually from real religions (Norse gods, Egyptian gods, Greek/Roman, Celtic, etc) who still have worshippers in the modern day. But there's always the decision from the DM if they want to homebrew the gods or use the ones in the books (where some are real for some people).
@@raphaelj.f.2602I have never seen proof that Lovecraft thought his creations were real; actually Lovecraft as far as I've always understood it was an atheist. I know he may have joked with his friends and correspondents that they were real, and it could be assumed that some of his newer correspondents or people he did revision work for may have taken him at surface value or they themselves may have believed that his creations were real, such as William Lumley. But that's as much as I've ever heard. But I could very well be wrong.
@@ljones121 I'm not saying he wasn't an atheist, I've read that in the end of his life he started believe those things were real. How true are those affirmations? Idk, it's the internet, so take it with a grain of salt.
Whenever I encountered people talking about the devilish dnd game, I just tell them it's a game where you fight demons and the devil itself has spread the lie that this game is for his worship.
That's... genius and hilarious, actually. Has it ever worked?
Yeah, so that first story went from 0-200 quick. Why did a dragon drop a nuke? Why not just burn everything down?
Right? I was like "is this Shadowrun or what"
The DM dropped 2 nukes. I think the DM kinda did burn everything down.
@@kuno3336Could have been.
@@sakatababa The story talked of a second blast, twice. A second one coming minutes in game time after the first. So how do you think it wasn't two?
@@sakatababa You are making less sense the more you talk about it. Why don't you try explaining what you say instead of trying to insult. Because that just makes you sound like you really don't know what you speak of and are just being a troll.
I when it comes to the making somebody overpowered or giving them an overpowered weapon I can actually give an example of something like that being dealt with fairly.
In a D&D, RUclips channel called the unexpectables.
One of the characters has a lightning spear.
And even though it only uses its charge once per battle, it does a ridiculous amount of damage each time the player used it.
Then, one day during a fight, the player got a NAT 1.
The DM rolled up to see the consequences.
And she had ruled that the weapon would break, but she didn’t just make it break and that was it when he threw it and it shattered, it released a lightning attack similar to a fireball that took out one of the creatures they were fighting.
So, even though the weapon was gone, it’s still went out with a bang and help the party.
I was wondering does the fungus only work on humanoids cause if the dragon attacked with any part besides its breath the fungus should knock the dragom out right?
@@BlueTressymI'm guessing he claimed ancient poison dragons are immune just to avoid a repeat of the monk.
Ah the fourth story. A prime example of Schrodinger's D-bag
"... A dragon drops a nuclear bomb..."
Drake, is that you??
he said the dragon dropped a nuke, not rolled up with an ArmaLite
@@TheGhostFart Oh, right, that's fair. Drake is more of a Lead dragon, not a Rad dragon.
Story 2 - NTA. While there are boundaries that should be considered common sense, this is one that needs to be clearly stated. Otherwise, it's very difficult to avoid crossing boundaries one is not aware of.
As someone who has left my birth faith, I've personally chosen to revisit it because I enjoy the fiction of knowing how to write faithful characters as well as characters that have violently lost theirs. While my DM is a fairly faithful man, he's not the type to force, he just knows the stories and its an interesting subject. Consent as always, some lost people don't want to find their way again and are content with it.
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The moment I heard the phrase "I'm the only female player and only female character" I sighed in defeat. Once that is mentioned in the story it never seems to go well.
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0:00 I've thought about starting a DnD campaign with the Youth Group at my church, and if that's the premise, I wouldn't see any issues with Christian/religious themes coming up in the game. At the same time, if I'm just playing with friends, I don't know why anyone should try to turn the game into proselytizing.
5:11 Parents do have the right to decide what they want their kids to be exposed to, especially up to a certain age. At the same time, they can't shelter their child from this forever. Better option would (obviously) have been getting information from the OP, rather than immediately firing him and getting into a tirade about how DnD is evil.
11:16 First, this is why I prefer Standard Array over rolled stats. Second, that DM is an idiot. He turns a character into a ridiculously OP demigod and then gets upset because the character HE created is so powerful? Third, Did someone do the math wrong as far as the attack/damage modifiers? It sounds like he had a +1 longbow and the Archery fighting style... and added his proficiency to damage instead of just attack (5 (DEX) +3 (PB) +2 (Archery) +1 (magic bow) = +11 for attack modifier). But it's on the DM to catch these kinds of mistakes when they happen. Especially when it sounds like a lot of the character creation mechanics were handled by the DM.
Hi! That ranger here, pretty sure the DM just had no idea what he was doing lol, some people did the calculations and it's fully possible but he didn't put any of the things needed to get those modifiers on my stat sheet so :/
It’s not the 80s anymore. How does this rpg satanic panic still exist?
It hurts to think about, but I’m guessing at least some of the kids whose parents taught them that D&D was satanic continued to believe them after they grew up. Then they raised their own kids and repeated the cycle.
Also, I think the literature written about the evils of gaming can have a surprisingly long half-life in local church libraries, so there might still be people stumbling across it for the first time even now.
Wouldn't be the only stupid belief that still exists after so long.
I kinda feel like the “too overpowered” is a disguised excuse to hide “you’re a furry”
...if a massive dragon is far enough away to look like a bird, there's no way it would even notice an arrow being shot at it. It should be several _thousand_ feet out of range!
The ranger I am playing in my current campaign has a +12 to her attack roles but that is mostly because I picked multiple skills and feats that stack for the weapon. She does not cause as much damage as compared to the other party members, especially the paladin, but the consistent damage output is nice.
My Gloomstalker Ranger is like that. +12 or +13 to attack rolls (can't remember off the bat), thanks to high dexterity, and the Archery fighting style giving an additional +2. Very accurate, and as a Gloomstalker, each round, I can redo the first missed attack of the round (still using an extra arrow, it's not reroll the attack, it's just making another after a miss). The incredible accuracy is great for guaranteeing pressure on things or clearing minions out, or hitting high AC targets, but for easier to hit things, Sharpshooter is a great spike in damage thanks to the feat.
16:50 So, I have go to example for speed of land travel before trains and cars and stuff were a thing. In the early 1700's, the King of Sweden had been staying in what is now Turkey for some time (long story), and finally the Ottoman rulers were kicking him out and he had to make his way back to Sweden. This journey, about 800-1000 miles, thereabouts, from modern Istanbul to Stralsund took him 15 days by horseback, an incredibly quick journey for the time. This is probably about the max speed someone could have gone at the time. Europe is a pretty small continent, his journey was one-way, and of course he was booking it on horse. A much bigger continent, two-way, by foot would take so much significantly longer without straight up teleportation.
I can see how the "child of a god" can work. I played one in my first D&D game. Turned out my Tiefling was the son of the Neutral Evil goddess Potencia (this world's version of Asmodeus. Who his mom was was changed in session 4 to Potencia, because the DM felt inspired and it was great). Which eventually lead my Fighter to multiclass into Divine Soul Sorcerer, 'cause he assumed he was going to take over for her. It was a hilarious misunderstanding ooc, 'cause what Potencia really wanted was to make her boy her Warlock. DM had a custom Warlock pact for this specific thing, which funny enough a friend took during a reboot of the campaign.
As far as I know, none of us got special treatment in that game and everyone was allowed to be a bit special, as long as it was reasonable (I was an Asmodeus Bloodline tiefling, who had wings, but they were part of his personal quest, to regain, after he had been harmed in his backstory by an adventuring party).
5:00 A bunch of years ago, my regular group tried our hand at Dark Heresy. And, after a while, we were all getting kinda tired of it and wanted to do something different. So, the GM set up a "kill everyone" plot and let us all die in a blaze of glory stopping something that would have killed everyone in the subsector, with all of us dying in the process.
16:52 I mean, that's including the multiple times they stopped in a place for a month or two.
Not sure what it is, but this skit was great. XD Want to give more input, I think the speed was great, and it's really good delivery. Gotta say though- nuke dragons. What in the world?
Great use of journey for that skit
Can't wait for the Bizzle effect to take hold
I’m a Christian, as are most of my friends. My general rule is to not include real-world, modern religions with significant followings at all. I don’t want to disrespect others’ faith or lack thereof, and as someone who practices a monotheistic religion, shoving my god into a world where “all myths are true” is just uncomfortable and potentially sacrilegious to me.
Also I would really hate it if I played with a group of atheists and they manufactured a game where my character’s patron deity turns out to be evil or nonexistent purely for the sake of making me feel bad about being religious, so I don’t know why anyone would want to do that to someone else
the npc insult is really only used among those from internet era
Just how far could that arrow shot have been? Time to leave was a couple of stops back.
If anyone suggests selling a party member, the rest of the party has an obligation to team up and sell that character instead.
“Sell the woman off - that way she’ll actually be good for something!”
Hey, undead! We saved this one right here for you. Go nuts
6:03 The term came from interactions with certain people on the internet. Basicly If you are in a conversation and there is a person who keeps on repeating the same argument or statement over and over again and semingly unable to comprehand your point or what you are saying it is like an NPC in a video game when you exhausted the dialoge options.
The story with the dragon nuking the party kinda reminds me of FFXIV, but without the apocalypse being part of the next campaign's Lore.
I think that if you are forced to min-mac take a page out of That Guy That Destroyed Psionics book.
Shouldn't that black dragon be infected with that superfungus too now?
DM probably would claim ancient poison dragon is immune to the fungus after the Monk got knocked out.
So, with the dragon attack, would the fungus have attached to the dragon, since the dragon touched him?
no because the dm said it could be affected by charm person therefore anything goes
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I think that DMs who forcibly turn their players into Powerhouses have no right to complain to the character about them being OP. however, I also think that OP characters should definitely be prepared to be the target, as it sort of makes them a defactor "main character" Ultimately, I see a lot of problems with basic communication in a lot of these DND horror stories where even just a simple "is it okay if we take the characters/plot in this direction" at the table would have solved a lot of hurt feelings.
But the player repeatedly tried talking about feeling too strong and get the DM to nerf for balance's sake. And considering the Warlock was a demigod with a god patron/parent who auto-revived and charmed an ancient dragon, I'm guessing that was the main character.
@ArcCaravan yeah. Sorry. But my point was definitely a lack of proper communication specifically from the DM in this story. He also failed to listen to his player's communication.
0:55 personally I really don’t like atheist characters in settings where gods are real and interact with the world. It’s like the d&d equivalent of flat-earthers. Still this should have been a discussion away from the table and straightened out with the DM
I think their's story potential in an atheist character, like the difference between clerics and celestial warlocks or acknowledging the gods exist without worshipping them.
@@ArcCaravan fair point,
@@ArcCaravan That last bit is the whole thing with the Leonin from Mythic Odysseys of Theros, actually.
Atheism gets weird in D&D because gods are vary real there, but having someone who believes in gods but simply wants to be left alone by them would make more sense.
I could see a DnD atheist believing the gods are just popular warlock patrons. Or aknowledge the difference between knowing the gods exist and worshipping them.
Though in this case, it seemed like DnD got caught in the middle of attempts to "cure" or express atheism.
@@ArcCaravan It's funny to think about because Atheists in D&D would probably be the equivalent of conspiracy theorists here, or flat earthers.
@@Nyghtking Or find the line between magic and divinity.
Story three sounds absolutely like a reddit fantasy
I love how the dragon situation just makes 0 sense. A longbow (which is likely what they were using) only has a range of 600 ft. And at 600 ft, a dragon will for sure look like a dragon.
Its impossible to shoot an arrow at a dragon when it appears to be the size of a bird. Its just bullshit
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Maybe a little heavy handed but most dnd settings specify that the gods are very much real, maybe play a modern setting ttrpg if the influence of gods annoys you?
I don't get why people think their cool character concepts are RUINED because they went through a bad campaign.
Just make them again and play them through a good story!
They're not ruined unless you let them be ruined.
It's the same way fictional characters aren't ruined because of what a fanfiction author writes. It's not canon.
What. How did the ranger have such a high to hit and damage bonus? 3 proficiency + 5 dex mod is 8, and archery style increases that to 10. Meanwhile, you don't add proficiency to damage, so that should only be +5.
Am i missing something
Plus 1 bow, and the DM probably screwed up by adding proficiency to the damage roll.
Probably because of the slavery aspect, the sexist story reminded me of one of my D&D games.
I'm the only female in the D&D games I play, and usually the only female PC. My PC's backstory included her living with her half-family of slave owners, and due to her abuse, she was led to believe the conditions they were in was normal (e.g. multiple people crammed into one small room). This is of course not good and the DM had approved her backstory.
During the game, when my PC goes to get rooms for the party, she only got one room, under the impression that it's the norm. The Fighter made her realised how weird it was for one woman to share a room with four men she's only known for less than two weeks when my PC mentioned bits of her home life (he's the only PC that didn't know her backstory, hence having the most neutral, non-sympathetic opinion, which she needed to hear)
At the end of the session, I asked the party if what I did made them uncomfortable and told them I could change things if they wanted. The Artificer said it was fine, and was happy that I was roleplaying her trauma. The Fighter enjoyed the confrontation because I didn't seem to roleplay much with the group.
Disturbing topics can be brought into a campaign if the entire group is fine with it. The party wanted my PC to unlearn her problematic beliefs through the campaign. I really love my D&D group for making me feel welcomed.
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I love when conservative Christians come in to start judging, especially because when they do it with me, a practicing Catholic, I just tell them, 'Have your pastor call mine if you're so concerned. But don't get into the debate of who the better Christian is with me. Based on your judgemental attitude, you're unlikely to beat ANYONE in that contest. ;)" (yes I do wink on the walkaway)
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I hope to see my horror story someday
I kinda wanted to hear more about the Jesus gamer.
That scale thing doesn't really have any connection to Christianity. If anything it's a connection to Egyptian myth, Osiris weighing the hearts of the dead to determine whether they deserve an afterlife.
As with the whole fungus thing, it was the GM's mistake calling the dragon a bird, not the player's - and don't dragons have legendary resistance on top of not being humanoid? That GM is... _incompetent._
Its very worth keeping in mind that its kinda nonsensical ti be an atheist in d&d where miracles happen constantly on an every day basis so its not really possible to make it reflect real life in that aspect.
Are we sure the DM in the first story was actually trying to force Christianity onto that guy? It may be that that's just what it seemed like to him because he's an Atheist that tried to play an Atheist character in a world where gods literally speak to people all the time.
Also, your tip went up at around 3:33, but it probably should have gone up at around 3:55 - right after the part of the story it's referencing.
Intro Story. Without knowing more this may just be OP being hyper sensitive to certain aspects of his DM's playing style.
After all OP wouldn't be the first player to over react to mundane things they don't like.
Also wouldn't be the first DnD player who obsessed about religion or atheism while trying to make others follow such beliefs in a fictional game.
my parents are Christian but they allow me to play fantasy stuff all the time because they grew up with lord of the rings and other fantasy or story telling stuff stuff. so when I see this stuff where people flip the lid over something I'm like they're crazy and it's fiction not reality chill out.
You can’t claim that the gods don’t exist within the world of DnD considering the fact that they can literally manifest in front of the characters and bestow magic upon them depending on their class. So instead, an atheist in DnD should believe that the gods are unworthy of worship as opposed to them not existing at all
Hey crispy, would you be willing to have a segment where you highlight good and balanced viewer submitted homebrew?
I have a few I'd like to send.
Story 2: NTA, story sounds like its embellished tho. Whole thing seems like a consequence of a lack of communication and transparency, both of which you need when working under a "Boss", especially in their house.
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That "reap the consequences in the nursing home" line is kinda horrific, Crispy. Try to imagine that you get to your old age, you have serious medical problems impairing your quality of life, and the few people in your life that haven't already died off are trying to get petty revenge on you for something you did thirty years ago that you obviously can't change now. People who are growing up under the roof of controlling and crazy parents need to have some form of help, not just a festering thought that they'll get even in several decades.
Unfortunately, parental control is so absolute, and protective agencies so underfunded, that kids who are being straight-up abused can't even get help. I have exactly zero f's to give for tyranical parents who only feel bad about it once they lose their power. They had YEARS to reflect on their actions, apologize, and offer to make amends, but they didn't bother until they _needed_ something. That's not "petty revenge," that's "natural consequences."
The time to express regret is _before_ you have something to gain from it. Otherwise, in the words of a former teacher, "You're not sorry, you're sorry you got _caught."_
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Yeah that's been my experience with 5e. Everyone MUST optimize and minmax because the system is too tight to allow anything else
In that first scenario I would definitely play along and then in the end side with chad Satan instead of virgin God.
"Scales weighing your good deeds and sin" isn't even a Judeo-Christian thing. It's most famously from Egyptian mythology. In Judeo-Christian beliefs, God just does the judging himself and doesn't need any scales
That doesn't really sound like Christianity in the intro, though? Scales of good and evil? God of fate? That sounds like its cribbing on ancient Egyptian mythos if anything? Guy is free to leave the group, but that's some real fragile atheism based on what he's describing. Deities and demigods are kind of a thing in most D&D games.
First one is kinda expected. He joined a Christian dnd group.
I don't think atheism in a D&D world makes sense since gods make themselves known all the time. Non follower or areligious would probably be a better description. Still, dick move to try to use a game to convert someone irl.
The intro really confused me. I get not believing in God irl but the gods are literally canon in DnD. Putting your atheism in your character makes little sense unless you're going for a goofy low-int build. Also almost every modern story with even the slightest supernatural tinge takes inspiration from one or more of the major religions out there. Christianity is obviously one of those common inspiration sources.
tldr: If you don't want religion in your game then don't play DnD. Duh!
This is a piss-poor opinion that i would definately disagree. In some games, you can host a gritty realism game with 5e, and have clerics/paladins be considered like psychers from warhammer. The gods would be fabricated, but their faith they give is too much. This manifests into the game, and there you go. Its up to the dm if the god interferes with the mortal realm.
Im sorry but Dnd can be hosted without gods, but it cannot host your attitude.
There could be cases of acknowledging gods exist without worshipping them or thinking their glorified patrons with special celestial warlocks.
Though this situation was definitely more about a religious player trying to force beliefs on an atheist.
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