My Ensoniq SQ80 from 1987 has it. So it's nothing new. It's just that most synth designers these days buy an off the shelf keybed from Fatar since that is a hard bit to get right. Even my Kawai K5000S uses a Fatar despite Kawai being a maker of pianos and easily capable of making one.
@@jdkgcp Polyphonic aftertouch hasn't been implemented on a major keyboard of any kind since the 90s when Ensoniq developed their in-house hardware, until ASM released the Hydrasynth a few years ago. Monophonic (AKA Channel) aftertouch is the standard you're thinking of.
@@6581punk This new Iridium keyboard actually uses a Fatar TP/8SK keyboard, which is the same as in the Quantum, but either an updated version from Fatar or Waldorf have implemented a poly aftertouch strip.
@@treennumbers thanks bro. Not sure why everyone is so confused about what I said. I have a nearly $3k RD-2000 that doesn't even have mono aftertouch. The Industry is far off the mark with what they need to be doing with keybed features...
My oh My! 😍 This has been one of the most amazing synths I've seen in years! I saw Jon Makes Beats use it in some of his videos and the sounds were exquisite! I Instantly want one!
I love my iridium module. I am certainly lusting for the keyboard version but I admit the 16 pads on the desktop version take me to fresh approaches to melody and note sequencing. The sounds demonstrated here do not do the iridium engine justice. All these sounds were just metallic sound pudding. Much more delicate sounds are possible and fresh buzzy synth tones reminding you of analog but with a bite. Sampling from your own songs can produce great drops and splice and dice. The iridium is a great creativity tool.
I agree, this demo doesn't make me want to buy one. And it doesn't sound like it's any better than your average Korg or Yamaha workstation which are much less. Certainly doesn't make me think it's worth big money.
im just looking into these after getting the Tasty Chips GR1 and seeing how powerful granular synthesis can be. Sampling from your own tracks in new ways. I like the module but don't know if the aftertouch keyboard is something worth trying for the first time. Aftertouch on this thing reminded me of an Ondes Martenot
im just looking into these after getting the Tasty Chips GR1 and seeing how powerful granular synthesis can be. Sampling from your own tracks in new ways. I like the module but don't know if the aftertouch keyboard is something worth trying for the first time. Aftertouch on this thing reminded me of an Ondes Martenot
So glad to see this synth in this format. When I visit my local store, they have a Quantum and an Access Virus Ti2 DS stacked. I love playing that pair together. The Iridium is on my list.
Soooooo many better demos of the sounds of this thing out there. When I first watched this video, the sounds actually put me off. It was only when I did more research that I saw people making the ambient, glitchy, deep tech stuff that I'm looking for.
What stopped you, in the year 2022, from implementing Midi 2.0 ? You would have sold me on this synth if it came with Midi 2.0, and preferably also with a replacable LCD screen. If I spend an arm and a leg on new gear I want it to last 20 years or more. 5 octaves or more would also be welcome. I appreciate the fact that the Iridium comes in a rack version (well, sort of), but if you decide to make a keyboard version as well, why not 76 or 88 keys?
Have been trying to decide for weeks if I should buy an Iridium, I get close - and then I find something like this demo and it puts me off completely. Hard to believe that waldorf actually sanctioned the above video.......anyhoo... this does not sound to me like a 2 grand synth should sound with all those sound engines, Its presets are almost all scratchy, thin, and unusable. I really want it though!
All presets are in scale root C, is it possible to go through presets in lets say A Minor only? Now i have to adjust the scale root each time i enter a new preset, little flow kill tbh. Was wondering if there's a workaround. Greets
I had to sell my Iridium because it was so glitchy, constantly crashing, the screen would turn white and it would stop producing sound I’d have to power cycle it to getting working again and any time I tried to do anything sample based in the granular engine it would make cracking noises like an audio interface does when the cpu load is nearing 100% and that would be even when using the most basic one shot samples that came with it. It’s so unfortunate because I really loved the architecture, overall functionality and raw sound of it. I’m a sound designer by profession so I was so happy to have such a capable deep synth to dig into but it was so buggy that it was unusable. I hope to own one again someday but I doubt I will since they’re so expensive it was actually the most expansive singular synth I’d ever purchased and I’ve always loved Waldorf’s synths since the Q and Microwave days. I don’t regret parting with it because the unit that I had was virtually unusable but I do miss it and wish I could have fully explored its potential :/
I'm happy to see the new responsive/expressive key-bed, but the patches, all of them in this video, for me personally, were lame, as was the player who was not able to grasp the nature of some sounds so played them in a way that didn't represent them in the best light. I'd have to sit with this in a store before making a decision.
Sounds like ****, also in the store (I've only tested the Iridium desktop version, but that is identical from a sound engine point of view). Almost any freeware VSTi can do a better job. Waldorf, where are you heading to?
@@6581punk which controls more? The instant access buttons? The poly after touch by the 4 octave keys? With a master K and a desktop u can do it too, so if you have space problems, desktop version has same controls on synth parameters that you can find in the keyboard version. If you like the amazing Fatar keyboard and poly after touch then is a simply go for keyboard! Wish that really one day the new Waldorf will make a real synth that sounds like the old Waldorf era.
I have a Quantum and Hydrasynth so a bit redundant for me.. but nice.. polyphonic aftertouch should be standard on synths :) Edit: ooh this is a Fatar keybed.. did they finally wake up or did you get the modification tech from Syntonovo? Either way, great to see more poly-at keybeds out there
@Rhizosphere if you haven't used Poly At you might not miss it . but once you have... and especially once you get used to it, you miss it anytime you play something without it. The real question is how does the fatar Poly AT feel. on a hydrasynth, its sensitive enough to easily trigger with your pinky. on all the Fatar keybeds I have used, try triggering the aftertouch with just your pinky while holdin a chord.
@Rhizosphere Poly AT would be more common if it couldn't overwhelm sometimes the old midi 31.25 kBit/s connection. However, you sound a bit like an organist who says "Velocity sensitivity, what's the use for that ?". And indeed, I grew up with non-velocity sensitive keyboards (except the acoustic piano), much cheaper ones than you had, MS-20, Poly800, Sielorchestra etc. When I got one with Velocity and mono-AT in '87 (Casio FZ-1), I realized that using AT can give you a lot more control over your music. With some synthesizers (Hydra), you can route AT and PAT wherever you want. I have now some synths without AT, and use them with AT (Arturia) or PAT (Elka MK88) Masterkeyboards. Especially Modx or Wavestate are really crying for that. It is a big improvement in functionality and can even free a hand for you. I can't believe that K.S. said this seriously, but ok, maybe it wasn't his thing - it may not have provided improvement for his music.
Korg Wavestate has one synthesis type. This has subtractive, wavetable, resonator, granular and the kernel mode allows you to combine them, much like FM synthesis. There's simply no comparison.
Having poly AT it's one octave less than the perfect synth/master controller double. For better sounds people should check the Co5ma channel demos of the quantum. You have to hear to believe it .
Ich besitze zwar einen Hydrasynth von ASM.... Aber ich möchte auf die Möglichkeiten des Polyphonen After Touch nicht mehr verzichten.... Der Iridium ist ein sehr schöner und soundmäßig breitgefächerter Synthesizer... Mit dem ich auch gerne liebäugeln würde... Aber der Preis... Naja aber man bekommt ja auch etwas unverwechselbares geboten Waldorf liefert neben dem Qwantum wieder perfekt ab... Weiter so. 👍👏👏
Too expensive. I can get the entire three Korg wavestate, opsix and modwave and save $1500 AUD on top vs the iridium module. Those three combined are amazing. I can't see 4.5K AUD in this one Waldorf, sorry.
Sorry, nothing the world needed. The (first) Microwave was quite good, the Waldorf Wave basically the same thing, just bigger with knobs. All subsequent synths from Waldorf were variations and became more and more exchangeable. This here sounds very (!) hollow and digital, and can be replaced by numerous plugins.
sorry - 4800 $ - every software synth for 99$ can create better sounds. Remember for example to DUNE - it has much more possibilities. I think the time for hardware synths has been finished......
Is the same CRAP SHIT CONVERTERS that sits in my desktop version? If yes then my fucking compliments..4 octave crap wont make it better for sure. SOUNDS LIKE A VST IN THE BOX!
Such a beautiful looking, feature packed synth, but the sound is VERY unpleasant. Not musical at all. Sounds like this thing is for making harsh, thin, sterile sound efx only. When it try’s to get ballsy, it’s sound very flat and bland. I hope the M’s Keyboard have a mod matrix, bigger screen, and dual filters. A LPF for each oscillator, plus a global HPF and LPF 16 voices with a sequencer. Just call it the Waldorf MXT2K. I’ll gladly pay the price of this for that. Keep the filters from the M on there. Don’t give it this shit here. The M’s filters and sound are musical.
@@2ammusik I was expecting too much? An amazing project killed by the D/A section? NO balanced output, no digital output...why don't ask Analog Device to make one nice converter 12 bits like the old Microwave 1 or the Microwave XT? too much money? Why all my old Waldorf synths sounds sooo far better? Ill pay 500 euro more r...really maybe also 800 more but dammn u have a real monster character "soundish" synth not a bland one.
Yes. Poly aftertouch needs to be the new industry standard. Thanks for being at the front end of the push Waldorf!!!
My Ensoniq SQ80 from 1987 has it. So it's nothing new. It's just that most synth designers these days buy an off the shelf keybed from Fatar since that is a hard bit to get right. Even my Kawai K5000S uses a Fatar despite Kawai being a maker of pianos and easily capable of making one.
@@jdkgcp Polyphonic aftertouch hasn't been implemented on a major keyboard of any kind since the 90s when Ensoniq developed their in-house hardware, until ASM released the Hydrasynth a few years ago. Monophonic (AKA Channel) aftertouch is the standard you're thinking of.
@@6581punk This new Iridium keyboard actually uses a Fatar TP/8SK keyboard, which is the same as in the Quantum, but either an updated version from Fatar or Waldorf have implemented a poly aftertouch strip.
@@6581punk I knew I'd find other sq80 chads here
@@treennumbers thanks bro. Not sure why everyone is so confused about what I said. I have a nearly $3k RD-2000 that doesn't even have mono aftertouch. The Industry is far off the mark with what they need to be doing with keybed features...
My oh My! 😍 This has been one of the most amazing synths I've seen in years! I saw Jon Makes Beats use it in some of his videos and the sounds were exquisite! I Instantly want one!
A true masterpiece... having that thing in mind since a long time, until one day it will probably come... So, you made it !
I love my iridium module. I am certainly lusting for the keyboard version but I admit the 16 pads on the desktop version take me to fresh approaches to melody and note sequencing. The sounds demonstrated here do not do the iridium engine justice. All these sounds were just metallic sound pudding. Much more delicate sounds are possible and fresh buzzy synth tones reminding you of analog but with a bite. Sampling from your own songs can produce great drops and splice and dice. The iridium is a great creativity tool.
I agree, this demo doesn't make me want to buy one. And it doesn't sound like it's any better than your average Korg or Yamaha workstation which are much less.
Certainly doesn't make me think it's worth big money.
im just looking into these after getting the Tasty Chips GR1 and seeing how powerful granular synthesis can be. Sampling from your own tracks in new ways. I like the module but don't know if the aftertouch keyboard is something worth trying for the first time. Aftertouch on this thing reminded me of an Ondes Martenot
im just looking into these after getting the Tasty Chips GR1 and seeing how powerful granular synthesis can be. Sampling from your own tracks in new ways. I like the module but don't know if the aftertouch keyboard is something worth trying for the first time. Aftertouch on this thing reminded me of an Ondes Martenot
I have used the Blowfed and I was so happy with the quality. This synth look even more convincing. Like the sounds. ❤️
all these new great synths are still presented in a manner of 80s prog music or synthwave. anyways, its a phantastic piece of tec, waldorf. gz
Isn't that why everyone worships analog? Extremely basic cliche/nostalgia sounds used like some blues guitar player self satisfying?
So glad to see this synth in this format. When I visit my local store, they have a Quantum and an Access Virus Ti2 DS stacked. I love playing that pair together. The Iridium is on my list.
YES JUST ORDERED ONE! ant wait to get my hand on it to play
Soooooo many better demos of the sounds of this thing out there. When I first watched this video, the sounds actually put me off. It was only when I did more research that I saw people making the ambient, glitchy, deep tech stuff that I'm looking for.
This looks super cool, I'm just gonna order it right now
Super - eine interessante, super klingende neue Waldorf-Maschine ! ;))
Knew something was coming and was hoping for a Blofeld 2, didn't expect this. WOW!!
@@markbradley5860 I agree and probably would have been more affordable
very nice sounding beautiful designed synth, I like it, great work.
Waldorf knows how I like to wake up in the morning
yeah that masterpiece of synth would looks perfect in my studio. great sound and features. best regards, Frank Liebe
a monster Synthesizer, I love it
Really cool @ 10:13 I was not looking and thinking, that's a cool arpeggio pattern. Then looked and saw your fingers moving.
Amazing sound
Also happy to wait one year struggeling witch synth to choose as iridium sound great i was hoping for a keybed version Lucky me to wait
Great demo!! 😉✌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
nice
Bravo... My next buy...
Mine is on order!
A beauty and more!
What stopped you, in the year 2022, from implementing Midi 2.0 ?
You would have sold me on this synth if it came with Midi 2.0, and preferably also with a replacable LCD screen.
If I spend an arm and a leg on new gear I want it to last 20 years or more.
5 octaves or more would also be welcome. I appreciate the fact that the Iridium comes in a rack version (well, sort of), but if you decide to make a keyboard version as well, why not 76 or 88 keys?
Great news Waldorf! You know how I love my Quantum ❤️👏🏻
Have been trying to decide for weeks if I should buy an Iridium, I get close - and then I find something like this demo and it puts me off completely.
Hard to believe that waldorf actually sanctioned the above video.......anyhoo... this does not sound to me like a 2 grand synth should sound with all those sound engines, Its presets are almost all scratchy, thin, and unusable. I really want it though!
very good.
Can the sequencer record and play without holding down the key ?
All presets are in scale root C, is it possible to go through presets in lets say A Minor only?
Now i have to adjust the scale root each time i enter a new preset, little flow kill tbh.
Was wondering if there's a workaround.
Greets
Nice.
Can Quantum users get these presets? Some of them sound very nice! :)
I had to sell my Iridium because it was so glitchy, constantly crashing, the screen would turn white and it would stop producing sound I’d have to power cycle it to getting working again and any time I tried to do anything sample based in the granular engine it would make cracking noises like an audio interface does when the cpu load is nearing 100% and that would be even when using the most basic one shot samples that came with it. It’s so unfortunate because I really loved the architecture, overall functionality and raw sound of it. I’m a sound designer by profession so I was so happy to have such a capable deep synth to dig into but it was so buggy that it was unusable. I hope to own one again someday but I doubt I will since they’re so expensive it was actually the most expansive singular synth I’d ever purchased and I’ve always loved Waldorf’s synths since the Q and Microwave days. I don’t regret parting with it because the unit that I had was virtually unusable but I do miss it and wish I could have fully explored its potential :/
Yikes, I hope you were honest and upfront about it basically being unusable as you put it…not sure who would buy it for more than a few hundred bucks.
You sold it or returned it? Who would buy it lol.
Are there updates coming for the original iridium soon as well? I know there has been a beta in test for quite sometime I've heard from other users
Trying to buy one right now, no shipping method found error on the website. US customer here.
Fantastic ! But , only 4 octave option , too bad !
Sehr schön.danke.
j'ai reçu le Nolinelab C 15 et je vais revendre mon L'iridium, je ne penser pas que je le revendrais aussi vite le C 15 est Magique surtout suptile.
Will the new sounds from Jamiroquai keyboarder Matt Johnson become available for the other two models as well as download?
amazing
I'm happy to see the new responsive/expressive key-bed, but the patches, all of them in this video, for me personally, were lame, as was the player who was not able to grasp the nature of some sounds so played them in a way that didn't represent them in the best light. I'd have to sit with this in a store before making a decision.
Sounds like ****, also in the store (I've only tested the Iridium desktop version, but that is identical from a sound engine point of view). Almost any freeware VSTi can do a better job. Waldorf, where are you heading to?
How can you make at synth at this price point and give it an external power supply?
Interesting… Kind of sharp sounding, like squelchy . I’d have to eq some of the highs off
Great keyboard if you're into space music.
whats the difference between iridium and iridium desktop though?
More controls and a poly AT keyboard.
@@6581punk which controls more? The instant access buttons? The poly after touch by the 4 octave keys? With a master K and a desktop u can do it too, so if you have space problems, desktop version has same controls on synth parameters that you can find in the keyboard version. If you like the amazing Fatar keyboard and poly after touch then is a simply go for keyboard! Wish that really one day the new Waldorf will make a real synth that sounds like the old Waldorf era.
Only thing missing is a tilting front panel on gas struts 🙂
I have a Quantum and Hydrasynth so a bit redundant for me.. but nice.. polyphonic aftertouch should be standard on synths :)
Edit: ooh this is a Fatar keybed.. did they finally wake up or did you get the modification tech from Syntonovo? Either way, great to see more poly-at keybeds out there
@Rhizosphere if you haven't used Poly At you might not miss it . but once you have... and especially once you get used to it, you miss it anytime you play something without it. The real question is how does the fatar Poly AT feel. on a hydrasynth, its sensitive enough to easily trigger with your pinky. on all the Fatar keybeds I have used, try triggering the aftertouch with just your pinky while holdin a chord.
@Rhizosphere Poly AT would be more common if it couldn't overwhelm sometimes the old midi 31.25 kBit/s connection. However, you sound a bit like an organist who says "Velocity sensitivity, what's the use for that ?". And indeed, I grew up with non-velocity sensitive keyboards (except the acoustic piano), much cheaper ones than you had, MS-20, Poly800, Sielorchestra etc. When I got one with Velocity and mono-AT in '87 (Casio FZ-1), I realized that using AT can give you a lot more control over your music. With some synthesizers (Hydra), you can route AT and PAT wherever you want. I have now some synths without AT, and use them with AT (Arturia) or PAT (Elka MK88) Masterkeyboards. Especially Modx or Wavestate are really crying for that. It is a big improvement in functionality and can even free a hand for you. I can't believe that K.S. said this seriously, but ok, maybe it wasn't his thing - it may not have provided improvement for his music.
hi...there doesnt seem to be any for sale in the US! Where can i get one now?
Has the quantum poly aftertouch?
What is the quotation of the instrument, streeth price?
How does this match up to (for instance) a Korg Wavestate? The price difference is quite a lot!!
1 or 2 extra octaves could make it interesting to consider the price difference.
Korg Wavestate has one synthesis type. This has subtractive, wavetable, resonator, granular and the kernel mode allows you to combine them, much like FM synthesis. There's simply no comparison.
Apples and oranges
@@markbradley5860 Serious?? How do you know this? That's exactly the type of synth I want 👍🏾🙏🏾✌🏾
@@markbradley5860 found it👍🏾 it looks magnificent ✌🏾
Kind of unrelated, but @WaldorfMusicChannel does/will Iridium support MPE?
Having poly AT it's one octave less than the perfect synth/master controller double. For better sounds people should check the Co5ma channel demos of the quantum. You have to hear to believe it .
In reality 4 octave is enough even for this let alone some 61-key 5 voice with only basic waves.
Ich besitze zwar einen Hydrasynth von ASM.... Aber ich möchte auf die Möglichkeiten des Polyphonen After Touch nicht mehr verzichten.... Der Iridium ist ein sehr schöner und soundmäßig breitgefächerter Synthesizer... Mit dem ich auch gerne liebäugeln würde... Aber der Preis... Naja aber man bekommt ja auch etwas unverwechselbares geboten Waldorf liefert neben dem Qwantum wieder perfekt ab... Weiter so. 👍👏👏
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I want one
What firmware version does it have?
2.8, Version, 3.0 is in the making
First!
🎹🌀
😎 cool
Make 88 key with weighted keys I will buy it
Do a piece(s) in 432 and/or 448hz please!
Second! Oh yeah! 😃
Dream machine. Unfortunately inaccessible in South America.
Cuánto cuesta? $$$$???
Too bad it’s buggy and crashes and dies mid session.
waow... by the way I have read that a person can fully function and live a normal life with only one kidney too.
Fonctionnalité Super Mais les sons Bien trop Métallique dommage .
Too expensive. I can get the entire three Korg wavestate, opsix and modwave and save $1500 AUD on top vs the iridium module. Those three combined are amazing. I can't see 4.5K AUD in this one Waldorf, sorry.
meh.....nothing wow to me.... my older novation supernova pro sounds as good.
Sorry, nothing the world needed. The (first) Microwave was quite good, the Waldorf Wave basically the same thing, just bigger with knobs. All subsequent synths from Waldorf were variations and became more and more exchangeable. This here sounds very (!) hollow and digital, and can be replaced by numerous plugins.
sounds German
sorry - 4800 $ - every software synth for 99$ can create better sounds. Remember for example to DUNE - it has much more possibilities. I think the time for hardware synths has been finished......
Am I the only one who thinks that the commercial playing before the demo (here: +plusDental) sounds far better than this synth?
Uninspired Sounds
I was excited but man this sounds flat and dull. Listen to demos of a Jupiter 4 or SH-5. Or prophet 5 or any vintage synth really…
Is the same CRAP SHIT CONVERTERS that sits in my desktop version? If yes then my fucking compliments..4 octave crap wont make it better for sure. SOUNDS LIKE A VST IN THE BOX!
Such a beautiful looking, feature packed synth, but the sound is VERY unpleasant. Not musical at all. Sounds like this thing is for making harsh, thin, sterile sound efx only. When it try’s to get ballsy, it’s sound very flat and bland. I hope the M’s Keyboard have a mod matrix, bigger screen, and dual filters. A LPF for each oscillator, plus a global HPF and LPF 16 voices with a sequencer. Just call it the Waldorf MXT2K. I’ll gladly pay the price of this for that. Keep the filters from the M on there. Don’t give it this shit here. The M’s filters and sound are musical.
@@2ammusik I was expecting too much? An amazing project killed by the D/A section? NO balanced output, no digital output...why don't ask Analog Device to make one nice converter 12 bits like the old Microwave 1 or the Microwave XT? too much money? Why all my old Waldorf synths sounds sooo far better? Ill pay 500 euro more r...really maybe also 800 more but dammn u have a real monster character "soundish" synth not a bland one.
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